The Bajoran Wormhole and Faith | Star Trek Online Lore
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 เม.ย. 2019
- This lore episode focuses on the Bajoran Wormhole or the Celestial Temple as it is known to followers of the Prophets.
To a scientists it is an fascinating Kerr Object but to the Bajorans, it is far more than a vital link to a wider galaxy.
The Orbs, the Prophets and the Pah-Wraiths all influence the culture of Bajor and it's ahem... "about time" we took a look at that.
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I have a theory.
The Prophets exist outside of space and time, so while in our time frame they had a long history with Bajor before Siskin discovered them from the Prophets point of view Sisko was their first contact with linear time.
When he first arrived it caused a split, those that viewed linear existence as too dangerous and needing to be destroyed and those that believed the could coexist. This can be seen in the first episode, some of them are very aggressive toward Sisko.
My theory is that in that first episode we see the entire battle of the Prophets. At the beginning they are split, but at the end of the episode we see less prophets and they are all positive towards him.
What I think is that even though Sisko only experience a few hours while in the Temple a massive battle was fought through time using Bajor and Sisko and by the end of that first episode they had cast the Cos tumojin (or however you spell it) and his followers out.
If we were to think from their perspective, everything that occurred throughout time on Bajor happened after Sisko met them
In the show the head Pah Wraith evil guy existed in multiple forms from their battle through time. It existed in the figure Dukat broke and in that tablet Sisko broke. As each battle failed they tried again but hopping through time
It’s a classic paradox, of effect preceding cause. They never knew of Sisko before the first episode but later were integral in his birth
In the Deep Space Nine 'relaunch' novels, we also get to learn of the Prophet's interest in the Mirror Universe and other realities, each of which they seek to locate an Emissary for...
Sisko's universe is referred to as the 'penitent' and the Mirror is the 'broken'.
Will you explain more? I would love to hear it.
@@luphone2781 Well, it's not very clear why Sisko is the 'penitent' - maybe because he disobeyed the Prophets regarding Kassidy, and several other things? But Mirror Sisko is the 'broken', because he died, meaning another Emissary had to be found, for that reality and it's Bajor.
Oooh. Thank you :3 I love tng and voyager but always struggled to get into DS9 so I'm missing out in a lot of lore.
@@luphone2781 Well, it is in the novels, yeah, so a lot of stuff with the Emissary is never cleared up, onscreen.
And the Mirror universe is mostly played for drama or laughs, for one off episodes, at the time.
@@chrissonofpear1384 I've been reading the current TNG comic Broken Mirror. It recently wrapped up.It's about how Picard would manage to be Captain of the Enterprise in the mirror universe. Was pretty good.
I wonder if there are in prophecies in the Bajoran scrolls in the game that tell of the player-character?
These episodes are a lot more fun to watch than the majority of what tv has to offer. Kudos & please keep up the good work!
I just loved the fact thart I just finished watching your Star Trek Online Playlist and here you are with a new video. Nice!
In defense of the Prophet that inhabited Kira, I think at some point during the episode it said the vessel was willing or something to that effect.
Looking good, Rick!!! Enjoy these type of videos!!! Thank you!!!
4:10 loving the use of character card artwork from Star Trek timelines in this and the mirror universe history vid :)
INSTANTLY recognised all those characters from the games artwork.
For anyone who doesn’t know or hasn’t seen it before, timelines is a mobile device game, designed as a grinder to use a slowly regenerating energy to complete missions, completing missions allows the farming of items to craft gear which allows you to level up the collected crew, which allows for the attempt of more difficult missions.
The biggest draw was the introduction of many variants of characters not actually seen in canon, but continuing the same theme...for example in voyager there was a time Torres, janeway and tuvok were assimilated...in a similar design there is a collectable version of an assimilated Deanna troi, and a next generation era appearance assimilated Geordi...
It also in one weekly event explained the origins of the nexus...
If you haven’t seen it, give it a look :)
can't wait for what's next
The Bajoran faith sounds somewhat similar to the Jedi order.
because the prophets are "of Bajor" i don't think the orbs went anywhere else. also the Dominion would be drastically different than what is portrayed if they also received versions of the orbs. Sisco said to them "you've set yourselves up as gods so now act like it." if they did that to bajor they also would have done that on the otherside of the Wormhole if they sent or that way also. it seems for some reason they chose a quadrant and stuck to it.
We had aliens that pretended to be Gods on earth as well. Kirk said we grew past the need for them.
I'm curious, in STO...can u go through the wormhole to the Gamma quadrant? And how long would it take u to warp back to alpha quadrant lol?
Originally no. But about 9 months ago there was the Season 14 (give or take an integer) "Victory is Life" Update which finally allowed players to both go to the Gamma Quadrant and play as a Dominion Captain. The time it takes to go between the Alpha and Gamma Quadrants depends on how fast the loading screen is as you don't go through the wormhole itself just travel to the other side of it.
there used to be a missions where you went through the wormhole. That content has all been removed.
@@gallendugall8913 ; I remember that mission. It was the first time I encountered a Vorta. He was the predecessor clone of the Vorta you meet in the Gamma Quadrant in the Lost Dominion/ The 2300 arc.
What do the Prophets get out of looking after the Bajorans? Is there an ulterior motive there?
11:12 Who said that the possession of Sarah Sisko or Kira Nerys was forced.
Be interesting to throw the Pantheon of the 12 Colonies from BSG into the world of the Bajor's VERY tangible Profets...
What about Q and Prophet interacting or knowing one another?
What about Kai Weyoon?
I really wonder if a sort of balance between 1stverse and mirrorverse are intended... if the terrannempire would have turned into a sucessful quasi-federation... would then the federation automatically have to become a military dictatorship and vive versa? If so... the avoidance of a fall of the federation might have automatically resoluted into a reformationnof the terran empire in the mirrorverse... given the mirrorverse is indeed a true mirrorverse and not just another possible parralel dimension.
pah wraiths and prophets remind me of stargates ori and ancients
I wonder if the q continuum had any contact with the profits are the key more powerful I think they are pretty killer profit could the profits hurt the queue or even kill a queue and what about that one creature that lived with that dead Earth woman that he brought back to life on that planet and had the music box that drug counselor Troy crazy
This remains me of stargate
Interesting stuff, to be honest I never liked the bajoran wormhole's role in the dominion war, the whole teleporting away dominion ships, I still think that was a cop out given it called upon a supernatural favour to resolve a situation then within the pragmatic politics that intertwined with the conflict (such as how -garak- sisko got the romulans to war)
I think the dominion conflict overshadowed the bajoran wormhole and that they were both significant elements to the plot butthe show could really only focus on one.
One of STO's better Featered Series arcs, The 2300, deals with that specific plot hole.
Now known as Lost Dominion, this arc deals with that plot hole and the ramifications of the end of the Dominion War. Originally taking place after the Borg content Rick's gonna be going through, it was shoehorned in with the Cradasian material and is now separate, but contact-locked till end game levels.
@@TymersRealm Yeah I really enjoyed that story arc. though the middle "prepare for battle" section was a bit odd.
In the case of the prophets intervention it could be seen as a pragmatic decision as all Sisko asked for was something to buy time for the other gambits to pay off. Plus for all it's worth the favor was earned by Sisko since the beginning of DS9.
I see what you did there
Vertirons can do anything the writers want them to
Why don't you do a video of all of the Wormholes ever shown and seen in Star Trek?! The so called "Orbs" don't look like a crystal ball 🔮hence the name Orb for a circular object not a crystal like crystal shaped like an hourglass ⏳I personally think that Star Trek and many other American sci-fi shows need to check the names of an object before they use it but by "sensing" this soul "Pagh" effectively make the Bajorans a Telepathic species?
"Pah wraiths.. prophets...all this talk of gods strikes me as nothing more than superstitious nonsense."
please continue these stories, great way to explain the game and a hell of a lot better than what they call "star trek" on tv nowadays.
The Bajorans were a great race to add to the Star Trek universe. In almost every way they challenged the conventions of a Federation trapped in it's own ivory tower. Not only in challenging the agnostic worldview, but learning "love thy enemy" isn't so simple when they rape your people and salt your planet. The Federation grew as much from adoption of the Bajorans as the other way around.
Not surprising, considering the Bajorans were all banished California Hippies. You name it: defrocked Jews, Moonies, weed-smoking Buddhists . . . we could go on and on. Some of this stuff was stolen from the Desiderata. Go back to Berkeley.
Bajorans... practicing pacifism. Right. Okay. Except, of course, Kira Nerys, who taught guerilla warfare to the Cardassians.
i took Sera Sisco as more of a manifestation of the prophets over a
Wormhole Jimbo jambo
you own a Yellowstone Runabout???? lucky bugger
Mfw when the prophets are far advanced/evolved bajorans, okay so not for sure but...if you were gonna be god of anyone
Klingons killed their gods for being more trouble than they were worth, Humanity outgrew their need for gods, and Bajor worships the equivalent of a tornado in space despite advancing to the point of space travel.
Pity, barely more evolved than a Vorta.
Bajorans suck. Religious space-karens who like to play the victim. Bajorans suck.
In the case of the Bajorans the prophets are both seen as beings in reality and co-inhabitants of the system by STO time. Vulkans met their "gods" and rejected them. The Klingons had 2 gods they dealt with ( the Fe'kir and the Hurq).
I say they are wrong. There are no gods!
I would rather believe in the prophets than follow Christianity. At least those Bajoran gods or aliens shown themselves to be real, have special powers.
Well, there's plenty of evidence for Christianity. You should check it out sometime. This guys debates are great too. He crushes his opponents. th-cam.com/users/InspiringPhilosophyplaylists
There's no such things as "BCE" it's just B.C.
Incorrect.
Not everyone uses a demarcation based around the year Jesus was allegedly born. So where Christians and many Caucasians in general use Before Christ (BC) and Ano Domini (AD, Year of Our Lord), much of the rest of the world uses Before Common Era (BCE) and Common Era (CE).
Of course, CE is also used in _Mobile Suit Gundam SEED_ , and AD in _Mobile Suit Gundam 00_ . But everyone knows the main timeline for the _Gundam_ franchise is that of the Universal Century (UC).
@@BNuts What's year zero of BCE?
It's just a conceptual secularization of BC. 3000 BC is the same as 3000 BCE.
There are other calendars (ask Jews, Muslims or Assyrians what year it is, it's certainly not 2021), but everyone and his mother knows Common Era is just the Gregorian calendar renamed for the fragile egos of western atheists.
@@settenovetre Why, everyone knows there IS no Year Zero. The Romans had not invented it. The Hindus did. The Muslims would later CLAIM they did, but they GOT it from the Hindus.
@@misterwhipple2870 You're an id*ot and you're completely missing the point, no doubt on purpose.
And I'm not even Christian.
BC-AC stand for Before and After Christ and BCE and AD are chronologically the same as BC-AC. Deal with it. Fucking Hindus and Muslims don't use BC-AC/BCE-AD either, for a reason. Because they have their own fucking calendars and they don't need either a calendar centered around the birth of Christ nor a secularized calendar that's basically just the renamed one that's centered around the birth of Christ. To a Muslim it isn't 2023 either AC or 'AD', it's 1445 AH, After Hijra, the emigration of Muhammad to Medina.