having 1.93 rating against Faze clan in a BO5 shouldn’t even be possible. Like we’re talking about ropz,broky,frozen but donk just makes them look like silvers
Broky and rain are starting to fade but that's a Faze issue. Donk is insane, just yesterday I was watching his faceit against S1mple and the kid has no fear. He takes the duel against S1mple and wins it pretty easily
@@dinkin_flicka14 yeah idk how S1mple gonna adapt to the new game (csgo2), he's the goat of csgo1 for sure but this is a new game and he's 27 this year already, not gonna be as fast and precise as youngster like donk or monesy anymore...really curious to see if S1mple will ever go back to being top 3 players hltv.
Ner0 is always so great on Confirmed. He's so right about dispelling the myth that FaZe have insane firepower. They don't have a top 5 AWPer. They have a low fragging IGL. ropz is amazing, but he's not a NiKo (or a donk if we're extrapolating). People talk about them like they're still the overwhelming firepower team, but these days they're the teamplay team. They don't have the raw firepower of Spirit, Vitality or even Astralis (who have different problems), and once s1mple returns to NaVi that might be another team with more raw punching power. Talking about them as a raw fragging superpower is a 2017 that never got updated.
Of course, CSGO is boring just like the pros of that game. The only one who can match donk now is the player who fully adapts to CS2. Whoever pro oldies still wanting CSGO back are the ones who sucks at CS2 and blaming the game for them being suck.
"is donk better than simple" If you're asking about their current forms, im pretty sure the only ones who would say no to that are delusional s1mple fans. Even the regular s1mple fans would admit so.
@@fakuhu178 Did donk break a tournament record in his first s tier event that s1mple had an entire decade of pro play to set himself but never did? Yes.
@@fakuhu178 He llterally DID break a tournament record. Have you been living under a rock? Average rating over an entire tournament at 1.70 over 12 maps, previous record was Niko with the same rating over 5 maps. Ratinqs are also not higher in CS2, they have a bit higher variance due to less rounds per map on average, but not to a point of significance (source: statistical t-test, check for yourself.). Furthermore, the Rating 2.0 system would check all rounds total over the course of a tournament, not just on a per map basis, and he played well enough rounds for the sample size to be significant. Dont be a closet hater, especially an uninformed one. And LOL i already know you'll either not reply to this or reply but refuse to accept you're wrong, so just go ahead and do either one of those. 🤭
EG: Step out of your echo chamber we are really good augh NIP: Yea we see that we are shit but now we want to start to fix this mess Megabrain CS Fans: They are the same picture. ?????????
@@jordzkie05yea of course Gundersen made the org an absolute laughing stock no question but it's still astonishing how stupid cs fans are like I dont get it at all how smoothbrained some people here are😊
Ooof my bad, I remembered the first map blowout and completely forgot the huge comeback on Nuke and how close it got in the end. Albeit that map was not some peak quality counter-strike for sure
@@War夜yeah we have seen but we have also seen s1mple's peak in 2018 and 2021. Nobody has surpassed s1mple 2018's dominance, not even zywoo. Donk could be the chosen one who can drop 1.40+ rating average by the end of this year.
@@1nsaneme973 id rather watch the best players right now match up against him rather than an old and washed simple. Thats like comparing a 40 year old michael jordan to a 17 year old Lebron James. I would rather them compare him to a newer and better player
At the beginning of the second map, in the first round, an error appeared on the screen and the game was curtailed. He told a Russian-speaking journalist about this. He probably felt guilty for this round and was on tilt in the following rounds
every time i open my pc it opens last video wieved. Like every day i have listened yo you guys in my sleep, haha! Can you do some talk about making lot`s lot`s of money ? :D so i can manifest in my sleep ? haha
Screenshot this : Donk will end this year with barely 1.25 rating. the s1mple will step in, as you know the goat of CS. teams will find way to counter a 16 year old kid, who is just pressing W and fire button. and remember donk is just a hype, and hypes don't end well. will comeback on 1/1/25
Doubters will never stop doubting 😄. Nothing will change if it turns out that you were wrong. It's always been fun to watch people who, instead of enjoying the game, constantly criticize players and teams. Its not even like you will get anything out of it, not even a cent.
Lol yall mfs funny af you keep moving the goal post, at first "donk was a fraud" to "he can't do it in lan" to "top teams will humble him". Stop it lol the kid already won and is a record holder
@@Miraclelnvoker no one said he's a fraud, literally every other newbie at tier1 played insane, i would agree donk did better than them, but eventually they fell flat. We have a history of these players, and only the consistent stay relevant like m0nesy. Even he fell flat for couple months and came back now. So stop lifting some 1.5 inches balls of donk and praising him like your dad
I bet Spirit take the Major or come very close, because some of the teams that got eliminated early in Kato will be doing much better in Copenhagen, like Vitality and Astralis.
No offense but i’m sick of Mouz being the “young guys” like fuck they have more then enough experience at this point. They are stable T1 players and mostly known quantities. They all have value, but I think they are hitting C9/Gambit level of “this team has existed for YEARS, they need a change of scenery for them to continue their growth or fail”
The 1984 comment is so unhinged🤣 And it's the total opposite. Valve is stepping in to recreate the free market. Right now, we don't have that because there's pay to win/play. Everything will work much better over time with Valve's methodology. Unfortunately, because of the way it has been set up most of the partnered teams already have their edge. As was said, EG and others fumbled that bag - big time - but the others will continue to reap the benefits especially if they stick to their formulas of actually trying to build good teams, find and develop talent. But, as I said, over time the new unpartnered formula should leave space for new teams to step in and fill the void poorly managed partnered teams are leaving as well as find and develop more talent all around the world! Also, as an NA fan on huge amounts of Copium...hopefully NA (and SA/AU/Oceania) will use these opportunities to grab some of these spots in the CS world...or even find the NA donk ;) F EU dominance :) Great and interesting chat overall though - thanks for having the conversation!
Spirit puts no pressure on the players, they keep repeating is that the goal is to gain more experience and develop instead of winning, thats why they feel no pressure, also they have no history of losing big finals so there is no reason for them to think too much about their lofe and how its the last chance to won something like Niko and Karrigan do
CS2 is like Counter Strike Source. The great players from 1.6 don't want to play it because it's inferior and allowing for mid players that are specially suited for a weaker game to shine. Donk is the CS2 version of RPK in Source.
Everybody's drinking the donk cool aid I see. But let's forget about the fact that this kid rose to prominence when the game was in it's worse state ever. Let's see where he will be in 2 years.
BNE is not maybe u guys have seen it that they have done it everytime they have qualed everytime no one has stoped bne in pgl so far this is harder but u guys have to accept it that bne is locked in
@Justin-ee1mv to be fair they're usually like "omg this channel sucks and mine is so much better" that or the classic "this video was so amazing!! I've made a video myself recently, and I hope this doesn't come across bothersome, but it would really mean alot to me if you guys checked it out" Usually that's how these cringe bots operate. But I guess the bots on this channel are going the thirst trap route lol.
Agreed, as weird as this may sound what I'm about to say, it'll make sense with only a quick simple explanation I'll leave at the end. Falcons have a higher chance of qualifying and even making it to the playoffs, than g2 does. However I'd say g2 has a higher chance of winning the tournament. What I mean by this, is that g2 is wildly inconsistent minus m0nesy. Which says alot considering he's supposed to be a semi streaky awper. Not Mr consistent. However g2 have an incredibly high ceiling , high enough to beat literally any team. This makes them a terrible pick for actually making it far in a tournament. As yes g2 can beat anyone, but they can also LOSE to ANYone However if they do somehow manage to make it to the finals, they have the ability to beat anyone. Falcons is pretty much the opposite. An incredibly good floor. But yet to show a ceiling that can be considered high enough to win prestigious tournaments vs the best of the best. (Albeit Falcons only seems to be getting better and better, so this can always change , but them becoming title contenders really relies on both sunpayus coming back to csgo form, and boros becoming a consistent top 20 player.)
@@FinnJames04 if m0nesy has a bad game 95% chance g2 are out of the tournament. This alone makes it hard to rate them highly. But yes their ceiling is incredibly high for sure. Higher than Falcons (currently atleast)
As a G2 fan myself, i fully agree. One match we look like we could be the best team in the world, and the next match we look like we don’t even deserve to be in the top 15 teams
And indeed m0NESY is currently the only consistent factor in the team, Niko and Hunter need to step up because he can’t keep carrying g2 alone on his back
Seeing ence behind PREASY AND GUILD EAGLES? Bruh these "professionals" pretend to know anything abt cs. Also prof saying that ence didnt compete in playoffs is straight lying. what a clown.
Didn’t quite catch the “ence didn’t compete in playoffs”. But they had a fluke run and didn’t really show much against falcons. I agree with mostly what prof said
One thing is that magixx donk and zontix are not good and speaking and expressing, they look arrogant and not nice, its much more interesrting to listen to magisk karrigan
@@dinkin_flicka14 Yes and no. Everyone has high expectations for a team like FaZe, but realistically the competition in CS is so high now, every team can beat each other, you can’t be the best team in the world for more than a month or two before someone else takes over. So with that in mind, Grand finals at katowice and major qualification is a ‘good’ result.
who cares if he had the greatest big event performance in history, donk is all hype. doesn't matter that every pro and analyst agrees its the greatest performance they have ever witnessed. all hype
Don't think you understand what hype is mate. It's not hype if it's substantiated with results, and those results happen to be the best LAN performance of any player in history
Hype? He literally proved it with that Katowice win. It’s a reality now lol. Is he the GOAT? Hell no. But is he potentially the greatest prospect CS ever seen? Highly likely.
Now that EG is gone, NIP took over being the clown org of cs
From 87-0 to this lmfao
Where is even one similarity to the EG behavior 💀
EG at least paid the players lmao
@@joramsimthey suck
@@joramsimmismanaged team
having 1.93 rating against Faze clan in a BO5 shouldn’t even be possible. Like we’re talking about ropz,broky,frozen but donk just makes them look like silvers
Broky and rain are starting to fade but that's a Faze issue. Donk is insane, just yesterday I was watching his faceit against S1mple and the kid has no fear. He takes the duel against S1mple and wins it pretty easily
@@dinkin_flicka14 he has balls of steel and the skills to back it up. Scary combo
@@dinkin_flicka14 yeah idk how S1mple gonna adapt to the new game (csgo2), he's the goat of csgo1 for sure but this is a new game and he's 27 this year already, not gonna be as fast and precise as youngster like donk or monesy anymore...really curious to see if S1mple will ever go back to being top 3 players hltv.
@@Vunguyen21392 ye lets not pretend 27 is old. you can still put up crazy numbers if 100% devoted to the game.
@@Vunguyen21392 yeah I doubt S1mple goes back to being top 3 in CS2. Sport generally is a young man's game
Ner0 is always so great on Confirmed. He's so right about dispelling the myth that FaZe have insane firepower. They don't have a top 5 AWPer. They have a low fragging IGL. ropz is amazing, but he's not a NiKo (or a donk if we're extrapolating). People talk about them like they're still the overwhelming firepower team, but these days they're the teamplay team. They don't have the raw firepower of Spirit, Vitality or even Astralis (who have different problems), and once s1mple returns to NaVi that might be another team with more raw punching power. Talking about them as a raw fragging superpower is a 2017 that never got updated.
I like this "Nero" Guy. Detailed information and and a good analytic view of the game.
that was a once in a million type performance for a player, if donk does it again, fuck it i'll say it. he's the greatest period. ever.
He will, look at his faceit plays. He just destroyed s1mple in a match. S1mple was up 9-0
Once donk got t side all he did was hold w and gg
He's cheating @@MVPHAM613
We have to wait and see how the rating settles in the next few months before anything can be said
@@MVPHAM613Even comparing faceit to pro cs means your braindead sorry
He is cheating.@@MVPHAM613
It looks like the pro scene is changing after the donk appears 🎉
Of course, CSGO is boring just like the pros of that game. The only one who can match donk now is the player who fully adapts to CS2. Whoever pro oldies still wanting CSGO back are the ones who sucks at CS2 and blaming the game for them being suck.
@@donH022 nah csgo was it man everything felt right in that game to keep it 100
People will keep moving the goal post until they get the "aha see" moment
"is donk better than simple"
If you're asking about their current forms, im pretty sure the only ones who would say no to that are delusional s1mple fans. Even the regular s1mple fans would admit so.
1. yeah it's form 2. I think it's kinda another game now that they are playing too
Is donk better than simple when simple plays once a month? Yes
@@fakuhu178 Did donk break a tournament record in his first s tier event that s1mple had an entire decade of pro play to set himself but never did? Yes.
@@Pyxyty I am not hating on donk but did he break a tournament record? No. Are ratings higher in cs2? Yes.
@@fakuhu178 He llterally DID break a tournament record. Have you been living under a rock? Average rating over an entire tournament at 1.70 over 12 maps, previous record was Niko with the same rating over 5 maps.
Ratinqs are also not higher in CS2, they have a bit higher variance due to less rounds per map on average, but not to a point of significance (source: statistical t-test, check for yourself.). Furthermore, the Rating 2.0 system would check all rounds total over the course of a tournament, not just on a per map basis, and he played well enough rounds for the sample size to be significant.
Dont be a closet hater, especially an uninformed one. And LOL i already know you'll either not reply to this or reply but refuse to accept you're wrong, so just go ahead and do either one of those. 🤭
Thanks for the donk coverage
its pretty obvious that he will end this year being #1. I can even bet some money on it. He is another lvl
EG: Step out of your echo chamber we are really good augh
NIP: Yea we see that we are shit but now we want to start to fix this mess
Megabrain CS Fans: They are the same picture.
?????????
you gotta thank the ex-coo for how NIP is being perceived right now.
@@jordzkie05yea of course Gundersen made the org an absolute laughing stock no question but it's still astonishing how stupid cs fans are like I dont get it at all how smoothbrained some people here are😊
BIG back to top 10
1:49:30 I guess prof didnt watch the match? ENCE lost 2-1 with final map going 13-11, that is the definition of competitive.
Ooof my bad, I remembered the first map blowout and completely forgot the huge comeback on Nuke and how close it got in the end. Albeit that map was not some peak quality counter-strike for sure
FaZe level up would be -Broky +Dev1ce
1:52:45 Spunj with the ultimate forshadowing on Astralis
No way they are comparing s1mple. Why? The guy is clearly not what he used to be.
Because s1mple is the only one to compare
Have you seen zywoo? Have you seen niko? Even monesy?
@@War夜yeah we have seen but we have also seen s1mple's peak in 2018 and 2021. Nobody has surpassed s1mple 2018's dominance, not even zywoo. Donk could be the chosen one who can drop 1.40+ rating average by the end of this year.
@@1nsaneme973 id rather watch the best players right now match up against him rather than an old and washed simple. Thats like comparing a 40 year old michael jordan to a 17 year old Lebron James. I would rather them compare him to a newer and better player
1:32:59 ITB have at this moment achieved 4 rounds over two games being 3-13’d and 1-13’d by G2 and BetBoom respectively.
prof is actualy so funny I love him so much
At the beginning of the second map, in the first round, an error appeared on the screen and the game was curtailed. He told a Russian-speaking journalist about this. He probably felt guilty for this round and was on tilt in the following rounds
Chad coming in with, either refuse to play or don't complain about conditions, yeah no mid ground there
every time i open my pc it opens last video wieved. Like every day i have listened yo you guys in my sleep, haha! Can you do some talk about making lot`s lot`s of money ? :D so i can manifest in my sleep ? haha
Screenshot this :
Donk will end this year with barely 1.25 rating.
the s1mple will step in, as you know the goat of CS.
teams will find way to counter a 16 year old kid, who is just pressing W and fire button.
and remember donk is just a hype, and hypes don't end well.
will comeback on 1/1/25
Doubters will never stop doubting 😄. Nothing will change if it turns out that you were wrong. It's always been fun to watch people who, instead of enjoying the game, constantly criticize players and teams. Its not even like you will get anything out of it, not even a cent.
See ya at 1/1/25 I am hoping for s1mple to get back in form to see how he fairs vs donk on stage.
Lol yall mfs funny af you keep moving the goal post, at first "donk was a fraud" to "he can't do it in lan" to "top teams will humble him". Stop it lol the kid already won and is a record holder
@@Miraclelnvoker no one said he's a fraud, literally every other newbie at tier1 played insane, i would agree donk did better than them, but eventually they fell flat. We have a history of these players, and only the consistent stay relevant like m0nesy. Even he fell flat for couple months and came back now. So stop lifting some 1.5 inches balls of donk and praising him like your dad
Putting ENCE on the same tier as C9 is straight up disrespectful to the Poles.
why?
New Breed ENCE is more better than current C9
disrespectful to ence you mean
@@rajivrathod132 Yes disrespectul to ENCE.
Kinda funny reading that after rmr is finished considering how ence barely got to the major and c9 got 3:0
The comments on boros from spunj aged well lol
I bet Spirit take the Major or come very close, because some of the teams that got eliminated early in Kato will be doing much better in Copenhagen, like Vitality and Astralis.
Why would those teams be doing better in Copenhagen?
@@XCVIIXCVIIvit will have time to prep and figure out issues. For Asstrollis its in Copenhagen ofc they will play the hardest they can
People seem to forget: the shit that shroud can do in cs, donk could never do
No offense but i’m sick of Mouz being the “young guys” like fuck they have more then enough experience at this point. They are stable T1 players and mostly known quantities. They all have value, but I think they are hitting C9/Gambit level of “this team has existed for YEARS, they need a change of scenery for them to continue their growth or fail”
The 1984 comment is so unhinged🤣 And it's the total opposite. Valve is stepping in to recreate the free market. Right now, we don't have that because there's pay to win/play. Everything will work much better over time with Valve's methodology. Unfortunately, because of the way it has been set up most of the partnered teams already have their edge. As was said, EG and others fumbled that bag - big time - but the others will continue to reap the benefits especially if they stick to their formulas of actually trying to build good teams, find and develop talent. But, as I said, over time the new unpartnered formula should leave space for new teams to step in and fill the void poorly managed partnered teams are leaving as well as find and develop more talent all around the world!
Also, as an NA fan on huge amounts of Copium...hopefully NA (and SA/AU/Oceania) will use these opportunities to grab some of these spots in the CS world...or even find the NA donk ;) F EU dominance :)
Great and interesting chat overall though - thanks for having the conversation!
Spirit puts no pressure on the players, they keep repeating is that the goal is to gain more experience and develop instead of winning, thats why they feel no pressure, also they have no history of losing big finals so there is no reason for them to think too much about their lofe and how its the last chance to won something like Niko and Karrigan do
CS2 is like Counter Strike Source. The great players from 1.6 don't want to play it because it's inferior and allowing for mid players that are specially suited for a weaker game to shine. Donk is the CS2 version of RPK in Source.
Everybody's drinking the donk cool aid I see. But let's forget about the fact that this kid rose to prominence when the game was in it's worse state ever. Let's see where he will be in 2 years.
This. 100%. The average level of t1 has been fairly abysmal compared to the past.
He was rising since csgo.
Chad is so salty about donk he has to set a time limit😂
BNE is not maybe u guys have seen it that they have done it everytime they have qualed everytime no one has stoped bne in pgl so far this is harder but u guys have to accept it that bne is locked in
wtf are these comments
personally im a big fan of mariapugh1 and ritabryant18
bots
LULW new to the internet?
@Justin-ee1mv to be fair they're usually like "omg this channel sucks and mine is so much better" that or the classic "this video was so amazing!! I've made a video myself recently, and I hope this doesn't come across bothersome, but it would really mean alot to me if you guys checked it out"
Usually that's how these cringe bots operate. But I guess the bots on this channel are going the thirst trap route lol.
TH-cam is fcked, people should use different platform
we need FaZe s1mple
who's out
broky or rain. both have been wildly inconsistent for quite a long time now. if rain is out, frozen could take his roles@@MaciejGorski-cu7nw
s1mple is the goat ... wth ... no need to play out players ... donk can be the best in the future maybe, like m0nesy, but not in 1 tournament
thinking G2 has more of a chance to qual then Falcons is delusion
Agreed, as weird as this may sound what I'm about to say, it'll make sense with only a quick simple explanation I'll leave at the end. Falcons have a higher chance of qualifying and even making it to the playoffs, than g2 does.
However I'd say g2 has a higher chance of winning the tournament.
What I mean by this, is that g2 is wildly inconsistent minus m0nesy. Which says alot considering he's supposed to be a semi streaky awper. Not Mr consistent. However g2 have an incredibly high ceiling , high enough to beat literally any team.
This makes them a terrible pick for actually making it far in a tournament. As yes g2 can beat anyone, but they can also LOSE to ANYone
However if they do somehow manage to make it to the finals, they have the ability to beat anyone.
Falcons is pretty much the opposite. An incredibly good floor. But yet to show a ceiling that can be considered high enough to win prestigious tournaments vs the best of the best.
(Albeit Falcons only seems to be getting better and better, so this can always change , but them becoming title contenders really relies on both sunpayus coming back to csgo form, and boros becoming a consistent top 20 player.)
I think g2 is better than falcons
@@FinnJames04 if m0nesy has a bad game 95% chance g2 are out of the tournament. This alone makes it hard to rate them highly. But yes their ceiling is incredibly high for sure. Higher than Falcons (currently atleast)
As a G2 fan myself, i fully agree. One match we look like we could be the best team in the world, and the next match we look like we don’t even deserve to be in the top 15 teams
And indeed m0NESY is currently the only consistent factor in the team, Niko and Hunter need to step up because he can’t keep carrying g2 alone on his back
Rain and broky are becoming a liability for Faze. It's time Faze should look for other options
“FaZe still contenders?”, literally made 6 straight finals. What a joke of a topic
I think Nip Needs a new Coach and replace 4 players Basicly keep REZ.
I know spunj wasn't better then anyone.
can ppl stop playing donk is playing simply, holy fuck the audacity to call it that is disgusting.
Seeing ence behind PREASY AND GUILD EAGLES? Bruh these "professionals" pretend to know anything abt cs. Also prof saying that ence didnt compete in playoffs is straight lying. what a clown.
Didn’t quite catch the “ence didn’t compete in playoffs”. But they had a fluke run and didn’t really show much against falcons. I agree with mostly what prof said
@@kripzzy6732 and what did preasy and guild eagles show? XD
One thing is that magixx donk and zontix are not good and speaking and expressing, they look arrogant and not nice, its much more interesrting to listen to magisk karrigan
Broky needs to be more consistent...
These guests are horrendous, this shows quality and professionalism has gone down a lot last two years
Pog
fazes problem is they need twistzz
What problem? Grand finals at IEM kato and currently 2-0 in the Major qual, 1 game away. Ranked #1 on HLTV rankings.
@@eddy_music_log twistzz drops 40 kills per map against donk surely
@@eddy_music_lograin and broky are not looking good. Faze definitely have issues
@@dinkin_flicka14 Yes and no. Everyone has high expectations for a team like FaZe, but realistically the competition in CS is so high now, every team can beat each other, you can’t be the best team in the world for more than a month or two before someone else takes over.
So with that in mind, Grand finals at katowice and major qualification is a ‘good’ result.
who cares if he had the greatest big event performance in history, donk is all hype. doesn't matter that every pro and analyst agrees its the greatest performance they have ever witnessed. all hype
Don't think you understand what hype is mate. It's not hype if it's substantiated with results, and those results happen to be the best LAN performance of any player in history
Hype? He literally proved it with that Katowice win. It’s a reality now lol. Is he the GOAT? Hell no. But is he potentially the greatest prospect CS ever seen? Highly likely.
This was the BEST TOURNAMENT performance in history. Not half, not map, not series. A whole tournament, 11 games. Best ever. This guy is the real deal
Lol people really can't pick up sarcasm on the internet huh
Guys im pretty sure he was being sarcastic lol. Cant blame people for reacting like that tho, ive seen people unironically say he just got lucky