In Serbia a writer took a female name as a pseudonym just so that he can publish his works. His female friends went to the book signings posing as the author. It took a while for the community to figure it out. XD Edit for those who asked for more info: The name of the author is Miloš K. Ilić and his female pseudonym is Ana Miloš. He published his works initially under his own name and even got the award for one of his collection of stories. He felt troubled when he encountered problems regarding the publication of his new creations, especially because at that point it's not like he was a "complete nobody", he was present for a while. And that's when he came to the idea of using a female pseudonym and it worked. He also ended up writing a book about this whole thing, the translated title would, I guess, be "By occupation: Ana Miloš". The whole thing was a big deal here in the literary community. One of the articles writing about this topic had a title: A marketing trick, a critic of society or a blow against feminism. Hehe, it funny to me that there are people who actually got really upset about a guy using a female pseudonym or who feel threatened by it.
Dont forget that the 2021 Planetas award went to a "female" author who turned out to be three dudes. Tons of critics and people howled about the deception but no one discussed how if the three dudes went under their real names, would they still have won? Most likely....no.
As a female high-fantasy/sci-fy fan with a passion for reading, I am sick and tired of entering the "Fiction" isle and seeing that it's 75% softcore p°rn disguised as "low fantasy". I grew up with Tolkien, Ursula Le Guin, Henry Lion Oldie, Heinlein etc. Can we please bring that level of quality back? I am SO DONE with fairy princes having their "eyes darken" at the sight of Mary Sue number 25. One tends to wonder whether the "middle aged white liberal ladies" echochamber that is modern publishing has something to do with this situation [the question is rhetorical].
For science fiction (so excluding fantasy), I suspect that it's also fundamentally harder today: science has progressed, the public is more educated, naive dreamy stuff with space travel explained by quantonuclear polyphasing and lasers making pew sounds in space wouldn't have much appeal today. And if you try to be more realistic, it's much harder. In short, as we approach the singularity, it gets harder to have visions of the future.
@@AnoNymous-mv4mj "Somewhat realistic sci-fi is often depressing." "Take for example the videogame, The Forever Winter." "It's a sci-fi dystopia setting that is a bit more believable because the tech in that world may resemble the tech we will possess two or three centuries from now." "But as said, the entire premise is depressing but believable."
@@AnoNymous-mv4mjtheres plenty of classic hard scifi that holds up, even if some of the science has progressed. Honestly, a lot of the best military scifi is a good 30-40 years old even now. Despite so much real world military examples of war to learn from, somehow portrayal in fiction is getting dumbed down.
Claim 'discrimination/oppression/grievance' and play on the public's sense of unfairness. Preach equality. Seize power ruthlessly while claiming and preaching all this then once firmly established in untouchable power do the complete opposite while still preaching the opposite of what is being done.
Notice how pretty much every single one of these authors say "This was inspired by my experience" and "This is about me and my identity", these people are simply incapable of stepping outside of their own minds.
studies conducted on children playing showed girls most often turned their toys into an extention of themselves, whereas if a boy was handed a batman toy he would immerse himself into the "role" of batman while he played with it
Not only that. While it may work in the US, in Europe you'd be bombarded with discrimination lawsuits, and judges would be thrilled to ram a dagger into your back and feel good about it. And the media would praise them for it too - "evil sexist club of men has been taken down, here's the hero."
A woman told me once “all men want and think about it sex” and I responded with “woah… I’ve read books by both men and women, and there is way more sexual content in women written books”
They say that, but its projection. Just pay attention when a hot dude walks into an office or a store. All the chicks stop working and stare at him until he leaves. Now when the reverse happens, hot chick walks into office. Dudes take a glance and get back to work. Maybe one will try to make some smalltalk.
Just bc u have a low sex drive doesn’t mean the majority of men do. There are so many studies out there showing men are more sexual, and as long as you’re not assholes who assault or make disgusting comments (as many of you are), there’s nothing wrong with that. Men watch porn and women write smut. No big deal until Mr. Victim complex makes a video whining about how he’s disadvantaged bc the publishing industry knows the profitability of smut.
@Dannalasapa it's not true though. They just lie about it in surveys and men are more honest. Watch what they do and you won't be able to conclude that they have lower drive than men.
@@DannalasapaJust because your mind is ridden with lust doesn't mean that everyone elses' is. The studies show women's sex drive is more reflexive than spontaneous compared to male sex drive, so your statement is a moot point at best.
The blindness of the administrators is extreme: The very HR departments that complain about gender imbalance and manipulate the rest of corporations, are themselves 90% women, and have no intention of changing this.
It was never about gender imbalance. It was always about taking over. Women are openly sexist when it comes to hiring and promoting and any man who tries to be impartial on this subject is a coward.
I work as a bookseller at a popular chain, and I deal with publishers quite a lot. The whole publishing industry is massively biased towards women now, and biased towards a particular brand of very middle class, very white, feminism.
Therefore, how can anything that isn't shallow drivel get published? Exploring new ideas and old ones in a new way, for instance? This is more than a rhetorical question.
It's ironic, their arguments always were that literature and fiction in general were being held back by a perceived bias towards white straight male authors. Somehow replacing that supposed bias with one towards an even narrower demography, liberal white women, isn't just as bad or worse in their minds.
I'm really curious about what sort of a warped mine manages to see patriarchy and toxic masculinity everywhere, even as men and boys fall further and further behind.
@@anthonylulham3473it's funny because the freaks used it all the time to explain why the discrimination white men face is okay, now we are seeing its actual meaning.
I suspect men just walk away. I've stopped watching TV because it all seems to revel in emotional turmoil or girl-bosses with no regard for obvious solutions. My own daughter wrote for an inter-school short-story competition. I had to warn her that if she wasn't writing about a feminist struggle, or immigrant injustice she was unlikely to win. Sure enough, all the winning stories had particular characteristics. With ideological capture, it won't end until the money runs out.
Male flight sadly is a thing. Just think about it. If a man dominates a woman in a field he is ‘beating a woman’ and if he is losing to a woman he is being ‘beaten by a girl’. When faced with a lose lose scenario most men choose to leave the arena and surrender the fight.
Sad but true. I have been trying to get my book published, it’s a sci fi horror novel about a retired veteran with ptsd who enters an abandoned space station with his group of rescue workers in only for stuff to happen which makes the character (and by extension the reader) question if what they are seeing is true or if it’s the ptsd playing tricks on the mind and making them see things. I tried publishing it but all the publishing houses refused unless I made “certain changes”…. Like making the main protagonist a girl or making the protagonist and the whole group girls, adding in gay romance (the main protagonist is close friends with another and they wanted me to make them gay, I said no cause it would change the tone of the story which is supposed to be scary), or a bunch of other stuff which I declined because it would ruin the story which again it’s supposed to be scary (and maybe have a bit of allegory that talks about the struggles of mental health among veterans). I refused and left cause I am not going to make those changes cause doing that would change the whole story and I am not about to become a sell out.
*Because men are criticized for expressing their desires, dreams and preferences, being labeled as misogynistic, while women are encouraged to express theirs and are called brave and independent. Men face punishment and are held back, making publishing and entertainment industries hostile environments for them.*
Women haven’t even had bank accounts of their own in the states for 50 years. The rest of history things have been very limited and women have pretty much been enslaved to different degrees. What you’re seeing is after thousands of years a section of humanity being able to participate in a society where a lot of struggling men treated poorly at least had the consolation women were inferior. Now men are retreating from any activity women enjoy because they associate it with low status. No one is coming to save any of us and I suggest just getting more stoic about the set of circumstances you were handed, stop watching violin t corn that trains you to see women as thins to humiliate, and just do what you want in this world. Men are criticized, sabatoged, and SAed the most by other men tbh. It just doesn’t feel like it because anger at women creates a false temporary comeraderie. Like an alien invasion would. Work towards your goals without caring what others think.
@C12341 lady women have been able to have their own bank accounts for centuries, it was married women that needed concent because their husband's were responsible for taxes and didn't want to go to jail. Also, unless you're 80 you never experienced any of those hardships, just read hyperbolic accounts from activists. Second, if it were true men didn't want to read the audiobook and indie markets wouldn't be on track to eclipse the traditional publishing market in terms of sales. And those books are typically written by men and bought by men. Please stop listening to the Marxists, they only lie.
@@C12341lol the women who are alive have lived in nothing but freedom and privilege. They didn't suffer the hardships women of the past did. Give me a break.
@@modus18 that is a logical fallacy because very few people male or female have privilege. Currently kidnapping for prostitution and trafficking is huge and there are a lot of women suffering. They’re not a monolithic collective. Just like lots of men suffer. Women getting books published on apparently trite topics doesn’t change that, and you’ve got to evaluate people as individuals. You wouldn’t paint all white peoples with one brush. Think of them like that, like a different race and you’ll get what I’m saying
They're not even bothering to write them. They took one look at the publishing landscape and rode off into the sunset on a donkey. They're probably just growing artichokes on a small ranch somehwere, naming their chickens extremely creatively.
A lot, my limited experience with trying to get published is that the content and quality of your story means nothing, and the identity of your protagonist(s) means everything. This was back in 2017.
Male authors are inking out a living with self-publishing and Amazon sales. But they go largely unrecognized, because the writing clubs and awards all favor the BIPOC and LGBTs.
@@Adelina-293 That's the impression I kept getting from guys who've tried since that time. They're saying the same thing. Not to mention being openly told what kind of protagonist they need to even be considered and "sensitivity readers" being foisted upon them to fundamentally change their work. What a clusterfvck.
I’m a male book writer who long gave up on getting published. I’ve self published four books on amazon, market on instagram and sell very few copies. But I’m still doing it and enjoying it.
That is me as well. I won four IPPYs in 2015-17, but was told offhand at the last event I attended in 2019, not to bother submitting anymore. That year there were two women run ‘publishing houses’ that dominated almost every category. I can hardly imagine how it is now.
@@BRLaue Damn. I didn't finish my first until early 2019. Poked around a little before getting a grasp of the situation and deciding to just do my own thing.
@ Good for you, keep at it. Amazon may or may not be a help. Try a few other platforms before getting locked up with them.Smashwords which is now Digital2Digital would be a good one to look into to.
I am returning to Hemingway and F. Scott. Reading the classics will remind you that at one time, authors could actually write. These days, writers do not write. They wrong.
For an all powerful, international organisation hell bent on keeping women down, the patriarchy sure does suck at it sometimes. Especially when it comes to controlling the narrative.
@@JoshuaCunningham-c6p I'm not really sure who that is directed at but I can assure you that there is no martyrdom on my part. I am merely noting with some amusement that the so called patriarchy appears to be relatively ineffectual at its one job.
I'm a male author who has been distancing himself from the publishing industry over the past year to explore other fields. The harassment that male authors experience in publishing is absolutely insane
Dude honestly. Fiction from the 20th century was just better. Deeper, more complicated and nuanced, more insightful, more challenging and risky. And this goes beyond gender, my favorite writer might be Flannery O’Connor. Good god what an incredible writer she was, and she’d be ashamed of the trash being peddled now
You read most these books written by female writers and often than not they all end up being: Hunger game rip offs, ranting, creepy stalker girlfriend or woman who wants to get with a 'bad' boy, or just copy and paste romances.
See, there's a market for all that. It's called "Kindle Unlimited" and you don't even need a publisher to get noticed, just some spread of infamy around blogs. Mainstream publishers seem increasingly worthless, even for women who just want to write stuff people want to read.
I don't know about Britain or Europe but in the United States this has resulted in most new male authors bypassing the publishing industry either self-publishing (for physical copies)or using Amazon publishing (for digital copies). Male authors and readers did not go away but they did mostly leave the traditional publishing industry.
Honestly as a woman I’m going to be honest. There was an article on substack about how “boyhood is uninteresting and needs to stop being written about” a la Shiloh or Miles Morales or any popular tale about growing up a male and it DISGUSTED me. It hurt to read. The even more shocking part was that it was written by a woman but there were MEN in the comments agreeing and praising the take. Absolutely awful.
Fem i nism has poisoned the West. Although to be fair I don't know what else any of us expected, considering that when they mask off to talk to each other they describe the ideology as an actual virus and talk about "infecting" every facet of life. Because that's so necessary. (sarcasm)
"Hence why men hate what we refer to as simps and white knights." "These are the kind of men who think that slandering other men to impress a woman is a valid dating strategy."
I REALLY fucking hate that _“How women conquered the world of fiction”_ article image because it implies women conquered by being better writers lol. No, they conquered is by basically spamming trash and there’s been a collective efforts the past few years (especially post-MeToo) to push men out of it and advance female voices. Everything women have gotten their hand on has gone to shit lol.
What I find so detrimental about this female dominance in literature is the over reliance on identity issues. Female authors may be winning all the prizes but I would like to see their book sales, because these subjects have little mass appeal. Where are the new Mary Shelleys giving us 'Frankenstein' or the Agatha Christies giving us modern murder mysteries or the Gen Z JK Rowlings writing about wizards? The female authors in the world of literature seem to be following in the failed footsteps of Hollywood. The Acolyte's Leslye Headland, instead of making a swashbuckling show about sci-fi adventure, gave us the same boring doctrine of intersectional gender studies infused navel-gazing that so many modern female writers are trapped in.
I think a part of the problem that these things are semi-dead markets now. When I was 18 I used to ride around in my car, listening to radio. I mean back then we already had CDs but I was broke and it was actually fun. Then came mp3s, then smartphones and today I'm chronically online. Why would I pick up a book when I can hear a podcast? I think men have moved to videogames and youtube, for better or worse.
Female authors who write good stories are going the same place men are. The publishing industry wants them even less than they want men because they might expose the ideology for what it is. A virus designed by the unintelligent and perpetually hateful.
@@justachannel8600 yeah but only those two suck. I am also chronically online, but maaaan, youtube sucks, when you do it every. fucking. day. And videogames are active entertainment mostly, you gotta do something every second. They cannot replace prose where you venture in a different world and passively experience a tale.
@@justachannel8600 Exactly. Book sales don't make even 10% of what they used to. Everyone has moved to videogames and other digital creations/consumptions. So the karens run an echo chamber which barely makes them money to keep going.
This is why when you go into a bookstore nowadays, every single new book cover is some mishmash of colors with little to no artwork with the title printed in huge print in a stupid font. All literature, even older stuff, is aimed at the 30-40 year old female demographic now. Look at cover artwork from decades ago, an amazing genre of artwork was flushed down the toilet so that the industry could solely focus on one demographic.
And it's cheap, one must imagine. I hadn't been to a major bookstore for a couple of years for various reasons, and wow, B&N was bright. We purchased a Lego set, the Hofstetter Tolkien from a couple years ago, and something from the crafty shelf. No interest in any new fiction... not that this is new, but the offerings have gotten even less appealing.
@@amalekedomite Try querying agents to get a novel published - they are part of the problem too. They are feeding the publishers what they want and what they know has been selling. In addition, the genre market has eclipsed more literary writing or writing that doesn't fit some formula.
Studies have repeatedly found male teachers grade boys and girls the same even when grading blindly while female teachers grade boys a half letter grade worse for no reason. That same discrimination is likely at work here.
Which study? I've seen the ones saying that girls have an easier time getting good marks with the modern focus on standardization (boys generally need more hands-on learning and time to get up and move throughout the day), but not about blatant discrimination. I dont disagree, it probably happens (towards boys or girls, depending on the teacher), but i don't imagine any school willing to do such a study and put their issues down on paper lmao.
I graduated with a Bachelor Degree in Comparative Literature and a Masters Degree in Media Science about 25 years ago. For the last five years I have pretty much given up on modern fiction in part due to this phenomenon. I have tried reading some of the hip new female fiction writers and honestly find the ones I've read to be uniformly narcissistic, openly misandrist and most importantly, dull as f...k. That may be a coincidence, but I do think Echo Chamberlain is onto something here. I've drifted more and more towards non-fiction like history, which still has a large proportion of male writers and would estimate that 90% of what I read is non-fiction and the rest is older fiction (with quite a lot of women writers among them such as Margaret Atwood and Ursula K. Le Guin).
The key difference is that women like Le Guin had to compete with men. The female writers back then were the best of the best. Now women writers get by by being a woman. They are competing with other women who got the job for having the right genitals. The bar has been lowered. Welcome to weimar.
The reason history books remain relatively good is because the amount of research needed to get through so to write such books can be very strainful, something most women find boring and don't want to do. Most women, even historian ones, don't want to sit down and research how many pilae would be needed to supply a Roman army on campaign or make calculations about how many days would take a Chinese army to cross the Gobi desert and reach central Asia. Such technicalities are agonizing in female eyes.
@@hebanker3372 I'm a female writer - of fiction, by the way - and detailed historical/scientific research is one of my favorite parts of the writing process. I start with a scene in my head, and the research shows me how the scene would play out, how it would look, sound, and feel to the characters. It's so much fun. I know what kind of writer you're thinking of. But please don't say "the female mind can't handle the research process" - my female mind thrives on it.
Exactly what I want to read, another book about the experiences of a teenage or college aged gender queer female. I'm sure it will be super engaging and enlightening
Ask for a book suggestion in r/fantasy. There are people that actively search this shite out or recommend it and get annoyed if you say it's not what you're looking for.
yeah man, after coming home from my shitty 9-5 gig economy job, I, the average male age 18-27 giddy in delight knowing that what awaits me on this rainy winter day is a 2h session of reading yet another handmaid's tale copycat in which every male character is either a emasculated goofball who by virtue of being short and emotional is OBVIOUSLY playing the orbiting slave- simp cuck that female protag leads on or literally just Henry cavil if he was evil
I'm glad this is being addressed. I'm a woman and I'm kinda sick of all the shitty writers that just so happen to be women! Do they publish ANYONE as long as they're women? It's hard to wade through all the crap to find anything good. Now I just try to go through all the male writers I can find. Better quality, less crap. Not saying ALL women writers are bad. But they sure publish a lot of bad female writers.
It is a shame. Before when i saw a woman writter in a male genre i automatically though that i got garanty quality. And rarelly if ever i was wrong. Now? Forget it. Even some of the rare male authors do no have that above average quality. They seem like all the others. Women were fighting strongly against the old system for so long. Men seem to not care that much to fight the new system. Let us hope that it is just a phase. In the end my words are just broad generalizations based mostly on feelings. What is the reality of publishing? But my eyes and brain are failing me so i probably will not see how low literature will fall. .
A lot of men spend all their money on drugs/betting/video games There's a good chunk of women who spend all their money on "spicy" enemies-to-lovers reylo fanfic with the names changed So, yes, publishers will just publish it all because it does sell
You need to look at the complete shutout of the working class too from all cultural industries. And im not talking about rich liberals who claim they grew up working class (and didnt.) In Britain when shows are actually made about the working class they are exclusively written by rich liberals so are completely ridiculous.
Writing used to be a working class profession. There's a reason why stories are better by working class than a some privileged, sheltered, private college educated person who never had to work for a living
You need to look at the complete shutout of genitles from the cultural industries. I'm not talking about people with normal looking noses who claim they never had a nosejob (All their kids are married into the tribe). In Britain when shows are made about anything, it's exclusively done with a view towards judaic aims and ideologies like feminism, communism, globalism, or lgbtism. It's completely weimarian.
I had a female editor at both HarperCollins UK and Random House. They wrecked my career, allowing 120,000 copies (uncopy-protected) to go out on dozens of pirate sites and then canceled my contract. And they blamed me for it. (And both got promoted.)
Pretty much bully behaviour. They'll hit you, think it's funny, won't stop for any reason that doesn't amuse them, and when you hit them back, the tears come pouring and the teacher scalds the bullied kid for "escalating it"
DEI and sensitivity readers destroyed books without anyone paying attention. Picking up almost any book, fiction or non-fiction, written or even published after 2010-ish is terribly risky as many have this tone, prose, plot, and characters that are creepy to read. (Make no mistake, even classical books are not safe as they WILL be subjected to sensitivity editors as new editions are published).
Plenty of people were paying attention and calling it out, they were just called racists and sexists and what not, and others were too afraid to even listen to them for fear of being called the same. The fear of people being perceived (incorrectly) as a racist, sexists or whatever other ism by people who are actually exemplifying those very characteristics will destroy the West.
Libraries when I was a kid: whole walls of sci fi, war stories, fantasy, technical manuals. Books floor to ceiling, Shelves of books everywhere. A cavern of books. Libraries now: Romance, true crime, romance, true crime, black history section, communist section, feminist section, romance, true crime. Massive empty space, a few shaelves here and there. Open, breezy, like a coffee shop. And they wonder why young lads today don't read. This is every public library in the North West of England.
True story: I'm a male, black, published author (but I don't make a living off of it yet) My nephew's school library removed Lovecraft's work because of his racism. I went to the school board meeting and said that was wrong because he was still a great author and was an inspiration to me. The white, upper class school board people booed me and told me I needed to be educated on the subject. I don't like this timeline
@@rumrunner8019 in my local school library they just changed the horror book section from Lovecraft with books for "modern audiences" based on his work (for example "Ring shout" or "chilling adventures of Sabrina"). They aimed at lovecraft explicitly thanks to a presentation hold in a "ethics class" where the goal was to show racism from famous people in history. None of the people that where for removing his works ever read one of his stories and the people that did wanted to stay neutral. And what was even worse is that they just thrown it away, instead of the regular procedure of just giving them to someone who wanted them But for example Charles Dickens is fine cause he wrote classics and at the same time they used a lot of money to change especially the kid books to the modern versions where "bad words" got changed. Especially the works of Astrid Lindgren
Communism itself is a bad idea, but its modern interpretations and rehashes by modern West are way worse. These books are written by people who would have been sent to camps by old time commies.
I think this is quite simple: A LOT of fiction is basically just "porn for women". It's "erotica" because that's how the book will still show up in Amazon searches and such. So... young girls can find it. Just like how boys as young as 13 are said to be addicted to watching porn. Erotica is just porn for women. But because it's not as "simple" as normal porn, or the one mainly males consume, nobody thinks there's any problems with it. Have you even seen a discussion of women talking about how "erotica" can be damaging? How it gives young girls unrealistic expectations and objectifies men and romantices toxicity? I haven't. They don't do it. They think it's "female empowerment" to allow women to get addicted to reading porn about a girl boss in a love triangle with a BBC and a brunette white twink.
Not to mention that these things are being read in front of people, in public. If perversity is innately unwelcome, why is this not being addressed with the same disgust?
No i absolutely have seen women talk about it, on youtube many people talk about how this kinda literature is toxic and cliche and harmful etc. Go watch these videos fr. In fact, every fucking body criticizes booktok and these stupid books. So yeah.
@@Sarpiente I also spent plenty of hours there. But now I switched to the western traditions. I still want to finish 40 milleniums of cultivation at some point. I'm halfway through that.
You know its biased towards women writers when one of the most successful modern fiction writers, who's a man, Brandon Sanderson, has to go independent to publish his own books 😅
2:15 Nah, it’s not a blindspot. They want to kick men out of everything. Some months ago, I was in the comments of a video where the creator was asking where all the male writers went. She made SURE to point out how “ridiculous” it was to think it was W’s (can’t say the actual word) of a certain political ideology were kicking M’s of a certain ethnicity out. Meanwhile, all of those M’s were in the comments answering: Crazy activist W’s openly told them no because they were M’s of a certain ethnicity
These issues are exasperated in the school system. I went through a period of hating books because no one I knew liked reading, and the only books I got through the school curriculum were the literary version of chick flicks. It was one teacher in particular who had the presence of mind to try and include works the boys would be interested in. I read Brave New World, Rime of the Ancient Mariner, Gilgamesh, Beowulf, and a few others in her class. Rekindled my love for the medium.
When I was in school the school libraries were great. Floor to ceiling books. Whole walls of sci-fi, fantasy, war books, non fiction books with cool diagrams and cutaways. Endless fun. Now I'm a grown man who works as a contractor. I've been in every public or school library within 50 miles. They are all feminine. They all have massive amounts of floorspace. Gone is the magical book caves of my youth. Now its like an apple store. All white and bright and open and antiseptic and dead. Massive amounts of romance, true crime, boring slice-of-life fiction or melodrama. I always, and I do mean always, look. If there is what I would call "mens books" they are in one section. Maybe one standee. That one standee is maybe 5% of all the books in there. A young lad today going into a library must feel like me when I was a young lad and my mum would take me into the womens clothing section in the shop. There's just nothing there for him at all. It doesn't surprise me at all that young lads are not reading books any more. I read a book a day and if libraries back then were like libraries now I honestly worry that I might have grown up illiterate.
When I was a kid I read through the whole school library in a few years. Even had to get my parents to ask the teachers to let me read upper grade books when I wasnt "old enough" for those yet. Then I upgraded to the town library and read every fantasy and sci fi story in there. These days Im more likely to read a long wikipedia article about history than to go read a new book.
It’s especially nice to hear an XX (I can’t say the word; TH-cam doesn’t like when I do it for some reason) teacher did that. Coming up through school, the only book I was required to read that I actually liked was Anthem by Ayn Rand. That one stuck with me. Even like 9 years later… I gotta read that again sometime. Also, I’ll bet there are a TON of people just like you. They think they don’t like reading, but it’s because school shoved a book in their face they didn’t like and forced them to care about it. And it’s sad that happens
The statistic about women making up the majority of publishing staff remind me of how they also make up the majority of HR personnel. Women are very good at maneuvering themselves into positions of influence, despite claiming to be underrepresented as such.
it's not about being good it's about being abusive. If a system can be abused it will be until such point that the only people in positions are those who abused the system to get where they are and only hire others who approve of their abuse.
@@scobeyrowley5115 HR has tons of influence--they control who the hiring managers even get to see, since the person who might actually win the meritocracy is probably some kind of "toxic male". What winds up happening is that the hiring managers only get to see the people who play along with the queer communist agenda even have a chance of getting hired, and then you wind up with all kinds of horrible commercials, and then you wind up with a company like Harley-Davidson trying to advertise to the gay-pride-parade, and then they lose all their money. It's the Bud Light (and Target) phenomenon, and it's usually caused by some invisible basic bitch named Karen who's been working in HR just long enough to start throwing a wrench in the works of everything.
I have a female friend who works as a literary agent at a top publishing house in the uk. A couple years ago she said they don't even touch submissions for young white men anymore, they're filtered out, to focus on minority voices. At the same time she said that sales for the selections they were making weren't going very well
This jives with my own experience as a beginning male author. In 2017 my first novel received interest from several literary agents and I signed with one. My second novel got...crickets. 50 queries, no response AT ALL. I was tempted to change my name to Roberta and resubmit.
This video resonates with my own experience of flip-discrimination as a man. An alternative profession to explore is HR. It's a historically and currently female-led profession with, what I found to be, a high barrier to entry if you're a man. When I was younger, I wanted to go into HR as a career so, when I went to uni, I chose the modules I wanted to study to be geared more towards that profession and, as part of my degree, my 3rd year was going to be a placement year in industry. So, in my 2nd year at uni, I made around 120 applications to entry-level HR roles and HR placement schemes. Around half became telephone interviews and half of those resulted in further on-site interviews or assessment centres. I even got down to the final 10 applicants for a role at Microsoft (which I'm still quite proud of). One thing I do remember is that everyone I met who interviewed me from HR was a woman (though I noted it - didn't think much of it at the time). However, as the deadline for finding a placement year got closer and I was having no success with HR, I began to panic and started applying for all sorts, eventually landing in a telesales role. It was grueling 10 months of telesales but I got sufficient industry experience for my degree and came back to my final year at uni fighting. Throughout my final year, I did the same again but made about half the applications as I had done for my previous year and was trying to be more targeted and tailored with them. However, I found similar levels of (a lack of) success with HR roles and found myself dealling with the same demographic of people. The same thing happened: I ended up back in sales. Now, I was good at what I did in sales. But the mental health and work-life balance cost greatly outweighed the monetary benefit, and it culminated in me having a panic attack in my car outside of my office (though I found -as a man- people really want you to just get over that kind of experience). So, nearly half a decade into my post-graduate sales career, I self-reflected and went back to my roots. I wanted to work in HR. This time, I spent around £3.5k of my hard-earned savings (most of which had already gone into supporting my then-girlfriend-now-wife's own career crisis) into getting a diploma-level qualification in HR management with the UK's top HR professional association. I spent a year studying for that. Sometimes, I would even do my assignments in my car, hot spotting from my phone during my lunch breaks. And, would you believe it?... By the end of it all, HR still didn't want me! This time, I made around 30 applications which resulted in a grand total of 2 telephone interviews and no job with the only modicum of feedback being that people weren't convinced with my "motivation" to go into HR. This time I was pissed! This time I thought something was wrong but not with me. This time I was also very familiar with how to use LinkedIn. So, a few months down the line, I checked on the companies I had applied to to see who had been successful. And it was like naming the dwarves from The Hobbit but for middle-aged women: Belinda, Linda, Lynda, Glynda, Glenda, Brenda, Sharon, Karen, Nikki, Vicki, Sue, Susan, and Suzanne. Now, at the time, I didn't want to make any complaints but pattern-recognition was heavily kicking in! The irony of my failure to get into HR was that it actually led me to my forever career and now I'm very happy about that! The company I actually ended up working for, I had applied to originally for an HR role but they offered me an alternative. When I was starting out in my new-found career, my line manager (who was a great mentor) checked-in with me at the end of my probation period and asked me how I felt about going down a different career route. I told him that I was actually really enjoying it and could see myself in this type of profession in the long-term and that, based on my experience, I was done with HR. He speculated that I had been discriminated against and then revealed to me (to illustrate the point) that our own HR Manager (a woman who hired another woman in the role I originally applied to) had described the ideal candidate using the "she" and "her" pronouns when speaking to her recruitment team. And this was the lesson: people who fall into, what may be considered, a "minority" demographic and/or a demographic that has faced undue discrimination or prejudice are themselves not immune to such negative behaviour *even if they belong to a profession that is meant to reduce/eradicate that kind of behaviour*. In fact, they may be the worst perpetrators of it because they are either blissfully unaware or genuinely believe that their behaviour is justified due to their own mistreatment (either via direct or vicarious experience through others who fall into the same demographic as them). My conclusion from this all: equality, like any other endeavour, is much like a fart. If you have to force it, it's probably shit.
By "flip discrimination" do you mean "discrimination?" If so, by "discrimination" do you mean "unfair discrimination?" What is wrong with you that as a young man you would want to go into HR as a career? You poor sod.
I suspect that in most professional environments where women are the majority, there's misandrist discrimination. Unfortunately, nobody wants to investigate that. There's also a women majority in social sciences, by the way...
Exactly. They (communists) are sneaky so they do it gradually and lie about their intentions and the behavior of people they target at the beginning of their campaigns. Once the initial concepts are accepted or established regardless of public acceptance, they start expanding their claims and definitions. Eventually they reach the point where they do the opposite of what they initially preached which was *always* the intention.
There is a total lack of creativity these days. I am a woman, in my late 50s, from childhood I loved SciFi books, marvel comics, scifi and fantasy movies, table top role playing games, fantasy, later video games. All that is being destroyed to push ideology and lecturing me. Books are being rewritten or edited for the modern audience, video games and movies are a pile of garbage. Now I stick to earlier video games, pre 2000 books, movies etc…. Western civilisation is doomed and being destroyed from within. Whatever replace it won’t be as good though. I bet you!
I'm a pretty liberal and (I like to think) open-minded person but I've entered this truly depressing stage where when people ask me if I've seen or read anything new, I don't know what to tell them--"I'm going back through Twin Peaks, had a Planet of the Apes marathon and am currently re-reading the Iliad?" I try to watch and read new movies and books but they leave so little impact on me that I can't even remember them when I'm asked.
@@jonathanj2106I myself aline with conservative ideology more, but man it’s so boring out here. Society and pop culture seem so devoid, angry, boring and just bad. As a kid it seemed so alive and now everything is dull. Good think I stick to manga now.
There are some great indie games coming out still. You can still find some good novels online, I like RoyalRoad and WuxiaWorld personally. Old books are great as well, some of my all time favorites are the Princess of Mars series, Tarzan series, and the Sherlock Holmes series.
I've worked in editorial roles for the last 20 years or so, and even with 4 female staff members to every male, do you think they ever shut up about it being a boy's club? Nope. Not even for a second.
I am curious to the amount of men that actually apply for jobs in the editorial or publishing fields cause honestly this entire video feels like some dude crying about how society is "who you know, not how good you are" and "Men can't win some meaningless awards." If the demand for "better fiction" written by men is that high and nothing but "trash fiction" aimed at 30-40yo white women is being published then why hasn't a group of men just started their own publishing company? And if they have already done that then should it not have popped off since the demand is so high? I mean you could argue that the women dominating the space have been gatekeeping men and stopping them from getting hard copies in bookstores but i'm pretty sure they can't stop somebody from starting a company, advertising on the internet and shipping physical copies themselves. Not to mention self-publishing exists.
@@CozyAir17 I think something that gets overlooked in many of these discussions is that men have largely moved on from written fiction to tv, movies, video games, board games, and podcasts. Traditionally, it's a lot harder to get men into reading as a hobby, and men also tend to only like stories by and about men. (This is understandable. The psychological makeup of men and women, especially with regard to storytelling, is VERY different. This isn't even a conscious thing a lot of the time.) With the boom of YA and NA, and the increase in sensitivity readers and the adulting of YA since 50 percent of the market is adult women--I know what I'm talking about there; I ran a YA book blog as and targeted toward women reading this stuff in their 20s and 30s.) it's no surprise that men have noped the hell outta there. And if the trends from there have spread to other sectors of literature, as happene4d with certain ideologies throughout college campuses, it stands to reason that the result of the market targeting would be the same. The reason this has failed in movies and games is that, unlike books, those mediums aren't as inherent to women, and the fare being offered is repackaged masculine storytelling with a robotic bitch at the helm--Captain Marvel, She-Hulk, the cast of Ghosthbusters 2016 etc. Film and gaming seek to encourage women to replace men, rather than catering to their desires. Books took female fantasties and decided they should act as an invasive species in every sector of the bookstore. Which screws everything up.
@@CozyAir17 It shouldn't need to be explained to you that replacing past misogyny with current misandry is reprehensible. Can you seriously not understand that? As for the rest of your screed, you appear to know absolutely nothing about how the industry works. Maybe learn a thing or two before firing off hot takes like "self-publishing exists" or "just build your own publishing firm".
Nothing is as it was It’s not just literature that has been terminally damaged by the ousting of conservative men and masculinity, but almost all creative fields of endeavour.
We need to call a spade a spade. Feminism is destroying human civilization. Maybe hyperbolic, but I can't identify another single factor that has so radically transformed society than the radical transformation of women.
Yep, we've been seeing AAA videogame stories and their sales absolutely devastated by demasculinised writing, despite the audience being 80% male. Men are going elsewhere or back to the past for their entertainment.
@@cattysplat indies and AA and foreign culture? I thank Japan everyday for carrying western culture (see Dark Souls, Elden Ring etc), otherwise after ww2 the west would be completely lost.
I know a couple of kiwi women authors, grew up with them and/or went to uni with them. A while back one was hosting a book conference and the flier listed all women authors, and maybe a male poet, suitably neutered and safe, so I duly asked why the predominance of women. The disdain and sanctimony was palpable. The response I got was "I doubt anyone had a problem with an all-male line-up 100 years ago. What's the problem with women being represented and having their turn?". I said by that logic she should set aside 30% of spaces for Asians, to reflect the global proportionality. Apparently that was no good, besides being a smart-arse answer, because Asians couldn't speak to our unique decolonising moment. Ugh. Intersectionality is like arguing with a rubik's cube - every time you try to address it directly it turns and recombines. So, we no longer speak. I think the thing that drives kiwis crazy is the distortion of the idea of what's "fair". We have very little ideology except for values like fairness. To be told it's fair that women now get to have "their turn" to dominate is offensive, but also historically blind - perhaps the present is perpetuating an injustice? Would not merit allay some of the concerns that it's a girls' club fostering the priorities, styles and output of the girls' club? By that logic of "fairness" we should be changing male-dominated criminal justice and sentencing to ensure that although men commit 80% of certain crimes, those women on trial should receive longer sentences, just to even up the total jailtime.
"Intersectionality is like arguing with a rubik's cube - every time you try to address it directly it turns and recombines." There's a simple heuristic here. Intersectionality = 'the women is always right.' - Alison
The worst part at this particular time in history is that men as a group are not speaking up. We are not united, heavily divided by our workplaces, families, the fourth wave feminism zeitgeist that pervades all media, our childhood and minds tinkered with social engineering, that's been going on so long even our parents are products of. Many even hate themselves for being born men. The few men that do are so heavily punished, having their life destroyed and made a burning pyre example in the public media. Most men are not willing to be become a martyr for justice in an unjust world.
@@theq6797even before DEI they were pushing back against long books; Brandon Sanderson mentioned it in an interview some time ago. So... good luck, I guess.
Everybody's talking about how DEI measures are ruining movies, games, comics etc. but almost nobody has the literature issue on their minds, very good content.
That's because most people don't read anymore and it's getting worse. Soon most won't be *able* to read...not that there will be anything good for them to.
@@PerfectTangent Maybe let's not get too bleak. Another aspect of this is that there are soooo many classics out there that a young person who is getting into reading could spend a happy reading life and not touch anything published past 2010. I just recently picked up the Dune novels, and got really angry at myself that I didn't do that earlier.
@@VolkbrechtThat's basically what I've been doing. I gave up on new books in high school after reading one too many subpar YA novels. I think _Ready Player One_ was the final straw. Since then I've generally avoided books less than 30 years old. Well, I've always been drawn to the classics, but at that time I went all in and haven't looked back.
Surely it is only a matter of time before this does become detrimental to movies and TV shows as well (if it is not already)? Because they are already subject to much interference to cater to the mythical modern audience. But if productions are still to be adapted from books, then sidelining male authors also cuts many possible stories off at the source.
It's almost, almost, as if those who regularly champion "progressive" and "inclusive" spaces, only seem to want people who look like them, think like them, speak like them, and who are in the same social groups (i.e. white, middle class, feminist, liberal, female). Consequently, they produce works that only appeal to them and their subset of humanity. But because that subset now runs the publishing and literary industries, that is all that is recognised as " objectively good" and "creative". Anything seen as not belonging to that group and which broaches topics differing to their own world view and "lived experience" is cast out as "toxic" and "problematic". There's been very similar stories in gaming and Hollywood, as well as many other fields and industries. They have become the very thing they fought against, but hey, let's see if they recognise the imbalance and strive to correct it, as the morally righteous people that they claim to be. I'm sure it will happen, any time now....
Yes, and it's intentional. Books and the publishing industry are just one vector. There's a rather large culture war going on in the video game industry right now (Gamergate 2.0) and many gamers (regardless where they stand politically) are pushing back hard, and the big companies are feeling it in their bottom line. This is the best way to fight these things, not give money to the people pushing it. What binds these collectivists together isn't race, sex, sexual orientation, or any of the myriad 'pet identities' they constantly tout. It's the ideology itself, namely progressivism, which is just modern day westernized Marxism/communism. In fact the word progressive was created by commies in the early 20th century to infiltrate the West because the revolutions in Russia and China would never work in the West because the middle class had it so good under capitalism. Whereas the commies of old focused solely on the 'class struggle' and the economy the collectivists of today have broadened that to include sex, race, homosexuality, transgenderism, and so on. For instance, you can notice this when a black person criticizes the ideology. Suddenly he's not longer an 'oppressed minority', instead he's now the 'black face of white supremacy'. The pivot point is ALWAYS the ideology, and everything else they whine about is just a smokescreen to hide that fact.
It's happening from both ends though: men are reading a lot less fiction, and that trend was well underway before this imbalance was in place. Anyway, good video. A lot of my favourite male authors don't have a lot of the traits you mention as particularly male, but there's a definite difference.
No it was happening because of the women first push going on, however that's regarding mainstream fictional novels, men are still dominant in other forms of media.
The BBC had a feature about trying to get more women into the publishing industry back in 2012 (I think). My friend got shouted at by his industry colleagues for pointing out that more than half his office (something non-fiction) and the entirety of the two neighbouring fiction offices were female. Apparently it was about the C level (moved goalposts) and he needed to shut up. This is leaving aside the fact that his house had developed a “preferred style” since exceeding female dominance, so everything was being altered by a handful of ghost writers but that’s neither here nor there
Funnily enough I've been campaigning to get more women into sewage work and offshore drilling for years and the women are REALLY not very receptive. It's a huge blind spot in judaic feminist ideology. Very odd.
I'm a woman and I hate this trend in modern publishing too. The writing in many of the newer books I've read is dull, the characters meander through thin, tepid plots, pondering their feelings on how horny they might be towards love interests that are forbidden to them. I still blame Twilight for starting this trend. To this day, when I look at fantasy sections in bookstores they are covered with red and black books, ugh.
Like it or not, if majority of literature that written by women are like that, that means women's fantasy is only revolving around sexuality, Similar to men that always wrote sci-fi/historical fantasy. It's just our nature. Men and women think differently. You can't force women to write sci-fi, similar to society can't forced men to follow our current trend in literature. The result will be ridiculously bad. The only thing that we can change is, giving men the same highlight as women in publishing their thoughts. But once again, as the video said it, that publisher themselves now dominated by women, would you guys willing to do the same as men from previous generations giving women a fair chance? No offense, but i've seen enough in workplace that women in charge are always have this weird power trip
That’s my main problem with female authors. Even in apocalyptic theme novels. They tend to focus to much on Romance. Like way too much. A zombie novel series I enjoy mostly. Is great except chapter after chapter of romance. I’m not interested in love during a Russian invasion where they create a virus to turn Americans into zombies. That part of the series is great. The action is great. Only to much romance crap. A lot of female authors jam that crap in. It’s annoying.
Twilight didn't start the trend. That's womens fiction going back to the year dot. Google "romance novel fabio cover" for the 1980s meme version of this.
It’s not just literary, they’re everywhere now, they’ve got into the gaming industry & comics too, and are utterly destroying both. We’ve seen them chase off half the audience of comics, they’ve all gone to manga that still cater to us. And we’re now seeing the complete collapse of gaming, a bunch of games that cost hundreds of millions are utterly flopping. Sony just had the biggest flop in the history of gaming, a game that cost them hundreds of millions to create was shut down after only 2 weeks because no one bought it, they then had to refund the few people that did. And another one is happening right now, all the mainstream sites are giving the game top scores, but all the independent sites & TH-camrs are saying it’s terrible.
I’m telling, as one who’s been in the trenches for a year now, IT IS. 90% of the publishing people are exactly who Echo says, and they’re looking for exactly who Echo says. Problem is, they care way more about WHAT you are than your story.
What's to stop (it seems to be men?) creating their own publishing companies? They have no say over your business if you start it, and if it is enough of an issue, I don't see how this wouldn't be the natural course for things.
I’m sorry?! Did you say, “BORDERING on farcical”??? Publishing crossed that border some time ago. Entertainment in all its iterations has gone completely Leftist and Liberal-white-women-centric and excludes ideas not in accordance with their own mindless ideology.
hasnt hollywood or just art types in general been left of center? i dont know or care much about that kind of thing, but the extreme left permeating everythign is anoying as fuck.
And for people like me who only care about the story and prefer certain genres, all I get is stuff I don't care for even if it's good. What the last 20 years has shown me is that, like for male writers, most female writers suck. So now the majority of what we are getting is uninteresting suck, as apposed to interesting suck lol. Only a downgrade. So when I finally get something like "Will of the Many" by Islington I feel like I just found a pond in a desert.
But here's the question: who is buying books? Is this maybe a simple case of eliminating the fringes to increase overall profitability? Honest question. There is lots of complaining about woke movies, but there doesn't seem to be much outrage regarding books.
Yet the most anticipated book is the one that George R.R. Martin will probably never finish. Amazing how many women are into Game of Thrones. George R.R. Martin and Stephen King are actually great at writing female characters but neither one can craft a satisfying ending.
Funny thing is that it’s completely fueled by jealousy and inadequacy. They know they’re worse, so they must maintain absolute control, because they’ll never be given the benefit of the doubt again.
“Funny thing is that it’s completely fueled by jealousy and inadequacy.” exactly what you’d expect from a woman run business. “Narcissism and resentment.” This too, it’s as if there was going to be no other way.
Mhh... I must disagree, I bet there are great female writers too, but if you privilege all femals you also push the bad ones and end up with "noise" and low quality as well. We should aim to giving equal opportunities and value quality. In music it is the same (I am talking about smaller scale, not pop industry here).Tthere are more men in music, but woman instantly get more attention, sometimes just because of looks because its pretty to have a girl shredding the guitar, while you notice as a musician yourself that men, who play way better, were not even considered. However, there are still a lot of really great female musicians, no doubt about that - but still that a lot of mediocre musicians get pushed just because they are female is simply unfair and a privilegue men simply do not have.
I went into the bookstore at the airport yesterday. As a male, I struggled to find something to buy outside of the business and history sections. No wonder men aren’t reading fiction. When I went to the Fantasy/SciFi section, it was full of paranormal romance (much of it borderline smut, too).
Women have never known how to write romance without smut for whatever bizarre reason. They've also never known how to write adventure without derailing the plot for unnecessary or poorly crafted/implemented romance, which also always leads to bad smut.
@@kitalalaris I will say, as a guy, men also do sexy mcsexface female romance interest with legs up to here, no personality and boobs breasting boobily in books which really don't need them. I hate both, where men are described as sculpted gods or women as Aphrodites for paragraphs on end. Romance, mainly heterosexual romance, is basically seen as a requirement in a lot of modern books/movies, and is often implemented poorly because 'well it won't sell otherwise', rather than the fact that they're women (there is also a decent amount of male gay romance written by women, which is done to varying degrees of success, but often also is poorly handled). Women have known how to write romance (you can look at older books) and many still do, but they're not necessarily being published. I think this is less of a problem with 'female authors' and more of a problem with publishing houses just going with the existing trends. I've loved fantasy all my life. Dragons especially. I read a lot when I was a kid, Eragon was one of my favourite series. I was really disappointed when I became a teen and tried to find some stuff for older audiences and it was all softcore porn (or even just full-blown smut). To the original commenter: However, if you're interested in sci-fi/fantasy, my personal favourite series is Emerilia, written by Michael Chatfield. It's an 11 book series which is kind of like the Matrix if the Matrix involved a fantasy RPG after humanity was defeated by aliens, and now the creator of the Matrix hates what his alien species has become. There is a female love interest and a couple of lesbians and they're handled naturally, no smut whatsoever, the few instances are just fade to black with a couple of innuendos. Might not be to your tastes, I personally enjoy it.
@@kitalalaris All this time, they've accused men of only thinking about sex--and yet, when you really pull back the deepest layers of a woman's mind, it seems like they're the ones that are obsessed with it. It's like men's highest virtues and callings are self-sacrifice in the name of a greater cause, putting everything aside including their own welfare, health, and safety, in order to make the world a better place than they found it... Meanwhile, women's greatest calling seems to be finding those kinds of guys, sleeping with them in the raunchiest ways possible, so that she can completely derail his path and progress in order to somehow make him so obsessed with her that he throws everything else to wind and worships and elevates her--screw making the world a better place, if she can get him baby-trapped and living life as her simp. It's almost like there's a reason that most of the greatest inventors of all time were never married, or kept their families quite distant; also probably the same reason that most successful societies placed a significant amount of social and cultural restraint upon women. Because, apparently, if you let women do whatever they want to do, they will destroy societies.
@kitalalaris please dude dont insult me this way , this kind of book is what popular , there is plenty of good women writers that write smutless or free as be , but that dont sell and dont publish , so they dont push them , they cann write it and write stuff without flagrant romance , its just the market is very romance focused these days and push male and females who are uninterested out of the way personally i carved myself my niche , and i found comfort in it , it also happen i am bilingual and arabic books , because of the general conservatism of the arabophone community dont have sex in them that often - a girl who genuinely hate glorified fantasy erotica (because we all lying to ourselves those books are erotica rebranded)
No! When stupidity leads to evident results and we wonder why. Why was it needed in the first place for women to write anything? What advantage did that gave us? Why did it matter who wrote these books?
Over-correction implies that there was ever anything wrong before. Women evidently have an alien spirit and so their newfound dominance is terraforming the spirit of the West into something unrecognizable. It's an invasion of pampered barnacles.
If you’ve never read Don Quixote I would suggest it. Extremely funny and entertaining as well as being very thought provoking. A gentlemen taking up the occupation of a knight in a time when knight hood and chivalry are gone wanders the land in search of adventure and fortune. Characters in the story are often charmed by Don Quixote while also pitying him for his madness but through this pity they find themselves playing along with his delusions in a way that makes them real. It is so good and was written 400 years ago so you can be sure it was when people had sense.
@@sodakk17 I’ve read moby dick as well pretty interesting story and Ahab is badass. I’m reading the English translation by John Rutherford it’s a very fun read especially if you like knights and medieval fantasy and history like I do.
Yep. I've had a couple of short stories published here and there by small presses, but I found it necessary to self-publish my novel. After submitting it to more than two dozen houses, it became obvious that female editors were rejecting it out of hand and that it was never going to be published conventionally. They're not interested in stories: they're interested in getting even for some imaginary grievance.
Tbh, as a woman, I just avoid most female authors. It’s mostly woke, cringe and/or feminist boring. So, I’m reading mostly male sci-fi or thriller. Like Shirtaloon or Scott Sigler
Unrelated but I would just like to reccomend you read "children of time." For sci-fi, and anything by Lawrence watt-evans for fantasy. Those are my favorites of all time.
@@bradthunderpants3283 have to check into it. But first I’ve got to read Gad Saad :The parasitic mind. Came across it on TH-cam, not sci-fi but explains how we got into the culture we’re “enjoying” right now
that's the thing! through no fault of their own, people have learned to associate (more than ever) women/diversity with "garbage" and that is 100% down to how these things have been marketed, how they have been presented, and how they haven't provided anything that genuinely lifts women/girls up in a way we can all get behind. I have many girls/women in my life to whom I value and wish encouragment, but these projects are AWFUL for their image.. it's literally giving us reason to role our eyes at 'women' being in anything, and it's WRONG.
@@Brekfastmachine Same here. Contemporary culture is so garbage and morally bankrupt that I've noticed film/TV from the early-mid 00s seems sane and wholesome by comparison. And literature? It has to be from decades ago. Seriously, I can count the number of fiction books I have read since High School that were published in this millennium on a single hand.
@@captainhanpritcher It's weird when I watched a movie in late 90s early 2000s I thought was average but I rewatch it now and are like yeah this is pretty good.
I am a female writer who has been following publishing for the last decade and aspiring to publish my work one day. And I have become completely disillusioned with this pro-woman anti-man book industry. It is tragic that when boys hit a certain age, there are no longer books for them. Teen boys have to read adult books. And adult books are dominated by women to the extreme. Fantasy has been dessicated and turned into steamy romance fiction, and a woman's skin color and sexuality are the greatest determining factors in her career. Yet I will keep writing books, because we need sensible women (and men) writers who are interested in writing stories of quality, not self-insert porn.
As a female smut writer, I agree. The market is already flooded with titillating tales by women, for women. I don't attempt to monetize my stories. They can all be read for free online. I certainly don't want them to be readily accessible to minors. I apply plenty of tags and warnings to indicate who the intended audience is. Although I obviously write from a woman's perspective, I try to make my stories appealing to both men and women. The kinds of situations I write about are meant to be experienced by men and women together. I hope my work encourages people to quit reading about such things and start enjoying them together.
Whenever I walk into a bookstore and look at the kids/young adults section, it's rather striking how like 80-90% of it is geared specifically towards girls and "female empowerment"-type stories (or LGBTQ) and history. There'll be a "10 most famous female inventors/actors/scientists/politicians" book but no male equivalent anymore or even any work highlighting anything a historically significant man has done without making it somehow about women (or how what that man has done is somehow bad). It's all about inspiring little girls, and you know that's great. But who's inspiring the little boys anymore? And the thing is, as you point out, that male writers' hits tend to do well with all demographics, while female writers' works just don't seem to resonate with boys/men in the same way. Same goes for movies btw. Both men and women can enjoy movies with classic male heroes, but gender-swapping these and the male interest drops dramatically (and even women don't actually go to see these movies in great numbers. Just like womens' football is really only watched by lesbians.)
Thats what made me stop reading fiction as an early teen. I felt phased out and couldn't connect to any of the stories. I can connect to female protaganists but the stories all felt like beginner romance novels.
JK Rowling has massive global appeal to all demographics but Tolkien has always been male centric (but not exclusively so) so let's not over generalise
@@scobeyrowley5115 Midwit fails to think in abstract terms and generalizations because it hurts his sensibilities yet again. Yeah, no shit a book thats primarily about a group of male friends on a quest to save the world appeals mostly to males. Tolkien still wrote stories that appealed to women FAR more than the slop women routinely churn out.
I saw a bit of this back around 2017 when I tried getting a WW2 story published. The deal offered was bad, the main point is the only reason the publishing companies looked at my story was because it had a female protagonist. If my character had been male I wouldn't have gotten an email response.
This is something I have noticed more obviously over the last 2-3 years. In libraries, I find most authors have women's names and their works are much more aligned than men's works - the content contains much more predictable levels of sentimentality, feminist-leaning storylines and characters with social interactions involving only progressive-type people. I've stopped reading them and started passing over women's fiction entirely. Thanks to this video, now it all makes much more sense. Thanks.
I was at my local Barnes and Noble yesterday. They didn’t have any books by Jack Vance and had one copy of one book by Phillip K Dick. I couldn’t believe it.
It's only ever Electric Sheep or maybe Man in the High Castle. I've been looking for Ubik for ages. I do most of my book shopping online now because you can hardly find anything worthwhile in stores.
I've had similar discussions with my very left leaning mother, the thing is the entire conversation is a step she isn't willing to take because she believes "men and woman have the same brain, think the same, enjoy the same thing, but men are born bigger and stronger so oppress the women who should be their equals" and no matter how easily provable that that's not true she will never listen because that's what she was taught and that's just reality for her now. She's also a terf when it comes to trans stuff which I find hilarious considering her view on brains.
I'm the TE part of that with out the RF lol. Your mother must have been indoctrinated as a child, because there is no way she could believe this insanity without someone with snake oil to sell deliberately destroying her critical thinking and logic processing centers.
TERFs have no one to blame but themselves for the left radicalization of society THEY helped usher in. This happened because you put women in positions of power. This happened because you freed them from the "patriarchy" that was keeping them in check. This wouldn't have happened if they had just accepted their rightful place and role.
Key problem, women in positions to hire or appoint people, almost universally hire other women. They have an in group preference, whereas men will hire whoever is best suited for the job.
I love that we're finally narrowing down the cause of the downfall of western fiction and entertainment on specifically liberal and white women. Even if there are other demographic groups involved, this group is ultimately the one behind this huge push towards a change for the worse, and the one that defines what all "allies" should think and feel about everything.
Yes. (((liberal))) (((white))) women. Look no deeper than that. the surface is all there is. All these ideologies and ideas are created and funded by liberal white women. That's all. Nothing else. Don't try and notice any cohincidences. There probably aren't any there at all.
It's not just western fiction, it's western civilization as a whole. This isn't only happening in books. It's happening in video games, movies, TV, TTRPGs, card games, and countless other hobbies and mediums of entertainment, and is intentional. The sooner people realize that, the sooner it can be countered and overcome... otherwise people will have actual problems to complain about when those pushing this finally get their collectivist dystopia.
Good luck to you! When literary agents started ignoring me, I decided to self-publish. That same book which no agent responded to won a first-place fiction award last year, the IPNE awards (local self-pub group in New England). This helped me realize that the old days of Maxwell Perkins are long gone... He gave us Hemingway and Fitzgerald, neither of whom would see the light of day now.
It was badly needed by female narcissists who weren't getting the attention they wanted. Kudos to them, because my god has it worked out in their favour. Supply for *days* out there.
Yup, the most commercially successful author of all time jk Rowling came up in the 90's pre the complete and final proliferation of progressive ideology.
1950s and 60s progressivism was what was needed. when ACTUAL societal issues like segregation and gay rights and actual oppression existed. 1990's and post progressivism was the embodiment of the phrase "rebel without a cause" and so the goalposts moved, and moved, and moved. now south park could be considered conservsative with how much its all changed
This disparity and female dominance is EVEN WORSE at the level of children’s literature; whether it’s books for ages 5-8 or ages 9-15 (before you start reaching YA-fiction age) there are almost ZERO male authors writing books for boys. It’s entirely female authors writing books and graphic novels primarily for girls. Proper “Boys’ Literature” ceased with Gary Paulsen’s Hatchet series in the 80s/90s. No wonder reading has been a “girl’s activity” culturally for 30 years.
True! As a mum of two boys I'm happy I've kept most of the books that have inspired me as a child. My kids read Anthony Horrowitz, Roald Dahl, R.L. Stine, etc. Not all of those are great literature, but at least they are not condescending, belittling, preachy or boring. And my husband and I write our own stories and read those to them.
Was told by three separate literary agents my book was the best manuscript they'd ever read, but since there were 'too many male characters' and it felt 'male centered' it wouldn't sell. The people running the publishing industry are clowns.
Because they actually had to write about something interesting, and had interesting things to read. Men have always been the ones to set standards, when men aren't in charge there are no standards other than bias, so quality suffers all round.
@@rattusrattus761 Real mask off. Reality is that most books were always trash, people think things used to be better because, rightly, the slop of that time that many still ate up is forgotten and not given attention to, and we just remember the greats. It's not a gender thing.
@@PlattyGemsNah not true. Using reddit speak doesn't help your point. Truth is dei matters more than quality edditors but you refuse to acknowledge it because you support it.
@@PlattyGems Yet to find a trash book from the 1800s/early 1900s. If you find one let me know. As a collector of second-hand books and obscure ones at that, they've all been of a higher standard than the slop served up by middle-aged wine mums with no particular life experience to mark them apart or give them any great insight and wisdom beyond any other regular joe. They don't write about life; they write in a genre they know sells and copy others.
I see it every month with Amazon. As a Prime member, I'm "given" one book for free from a set list. Without fail, every month there is a "Women's Literature" or other genre listed with the word woman in the title. And yet, even a stereotypical male genre like science fiction is only offered a handful of months throughout the year. Then again, even if I do find a male author, oh no - he has to write his main character as a "strong female lead" cause can't have a male protagonist either! By the way, if these finalists are all female, might be time to use the left-wing's favorite tactic and sue over "perceived bias" and actions that "disproportionately affect" men.
I loved reading as a child and still do to this day so here's a little story. Schools in our country have these really long lists of books (had to have been at least 50) that you can read and then discuss with a teacher (and other students doing the list) to prove you read them. Read enough (like 10 or something, don't remember) and you get a mark of completion of sorts. I got the mark 8 out of 9 years of my primary school and the reason I didn't finish the 9th one and barely finished the 8th was because each conservative year there would be fewer and fewer books that actually had compelling titles or descriptions. I'd always read through the older stuff, but inevitably hit a wall of female dominated new age works. I'm sorry but 14 yo me was not about to check out a book about women's puberty, coming of age and gushing romances if I don't have to, so I abandoned the list and started reading my own stuff, fiction and adventure novels mostly. Many of my classmates stopped reading all together by then. I was one of two boys left doing these reading lists by the end, with about 15 girls from what I remember.
While I agree that content creators must practice quality control and criticism, gatekeeping is not the way to go. Gatekeeping is how cultures and belief systems die out.
@@dungquoc8552Pretty sure it’s the complete opposite. How can a culture or belief system survive without strict gatekeeping? You could say that the only cultures or religions that have EVER survived are the ones who have gate kept religiously to maintain their beliefs against decay. Your body can’t survive without an immune system gate keeping bad bacteria and infection away, culture is no different. You’re just repeating liberal platitudes without thinking. Without gates, whatever system you have will obviously be beset by barbarians, it’s common sense. To argue against gates is so insane looking at the history of all of mankind. To say gatekeeping is bad is to say that everything you love doesn’t deserve to be protected, but instead should be pillaged. It’s completely misanthropic, and suicidal, and you’re only repeating that because you’ve been fed diatribes about the contrary by people who actively state that they want your culture replaced.
Great article. Two things come to mind when I was listening to this. The first was that this mirrors my exact experience in walking 'new' book stores like Barnes & Nobles (in North America). Almost all of the books I see there are written y women for women and I almost always end up leaving without making a single purchase. I then go to my favorite second hand book stores to find books that are interesting to me. The second thing that comes to mind was the downfall of the talented fiction writer David Gemmell. He started off writing incredibly interesting things and quickly became y favorite (living) author. Then, as I understand it, he became sick and his wife started 'finishing' his books under his penname. Yep, she sure did' finish' his books. They quickly devolved into tripe and I stopped reading his works. Such a massive shame and loss to all readers everywhere. Thanks for taking the time to make and share this video.
This is a microcosm of what men are facing in society. We created structures that advantaged women in order to try deal with sexism and give them a fair deal but instead of dismantling said structures once women reached parity we kept them in place and what do you know we've created the same problem but in reverse.
As soon as the amount of them in an office reaches 50% they start pushing men out until its only them left and then the company goes bust. I usually see the canary in the coalmine and switch jobs as soon as the company announces a strategy that prioritizes hiring more wmn. I already pay 60% of my income in taxes, I dont want to subsidize their lifestyle even more. They can work for it themselves.
Jane Austen fans have ruined Jane Austen for me. Some how a conservative daughter of a minister is a leftist and liberal activists. Concepts that didn't exist
@@somethingclever8916 Austen fans can be the worst. They tend to be very nice if you wholly agree with their viewpoints on the books, if you think Mr. Darcy is great and Edmund Bertram sucks, they'll support you. But try being a pro-Bertram girl on there? Hell, just try telling them you love Mansfield Park but hate the Crawfords and watch them foam at the mouth. Also, look, I like Pride and Prejudice... A lot. But if I see one more shitty "variation" on that get published I'll bloody scream. Except for Lydia Bennet, Witch of course... That one actually sounds kinda good. I may have to read that one.
I was an indy author who released six novels over three years with KDP, but my most successful one got shadowbanned. The reviews were removed. The sales dried up overnight. It went from top 100 to zero sales in a month. I fought with Amazon with no results. I became disillusioned and eventually gave up. My seventh novel remains unfinished, and it will likely stay that way. I wonder what might have been sometimes, but I didn't need the stress and drama of fighting to be heard.
Omg! I was literally telling my friend that it feels like I haven't read a great book in years and thanks to this video, I finally understand why. It's a bit like TV. Nothing feels universal anymore 😞
USA breakdown of students in higher education: 60:40 in favor of women (I think this figure applies to both undergraduate degrees and graduate). When figures were skewed towards men (but not by this degree) in the 1970's it was seen as a massive injustice.
When I write a story set in the colonial times in Korea but the characters are only Korean Book publishers: 😠 no diversity (Korea is literally homogeneous)
something like 95% of fantasy releases are targeted for women. Multiple hot male love interests, usually very abrasive and rude female lead. Reverse Harems are common as shit yet regular harems are seen as degenerate. Honestly it's impossible to find something good to read.
To get published as a male in today's market, you need to have multiple PhD's or have a large social media platform established. Out there right now is the next Dune or GOT in some wino feminist agent's slush pile who instead is looking for an LGBT minority writer with no talent, because that's the game right now. Making things worse is those talentless writers actually use the whole (I'm a minority LGBT whatever as the main selling point in their agent query letters instead of their novel's plot.)
In Serbia a writer took a female name as a pseudonym just so that he can publish his works. His female friends went to the book signings posing as the author. It took a while for the community to figure it out. XD
Edit for those who asked for more info: The name of the author is Miloš K. Ilić and his female pseudonym is Ana Miloš. He published his works initially under his own name and even got the award for one of his collection of stories. He felt troubled when he encountered problems regarding the publication of his new creations, especially because at that point it's not like he was a "complete nobody", he was present for a while. And that's when he came to the idea of using a female pseudonym and it worked. He also ended up writing a book about this whole thing, the translated title would, I guess, be "By occupation: Ana Miloš". The whole thing was a big deal here in the literary community. One of the articles writing about this topic had a title: A marketing trick, a critic of society or a blow against feminism. Hehe, it funny to me that there are people who actually got really upset about a guy using a female pseudonym or who feel threatened by it.
That's genius. Totally gonna try that out
Those are some good friends.
Smart Serb
Based
Who was that?
Dont forget that the 2021 Planetas award went to a "female" author who turned out to be three dudes. Tons of critics and people howled about the deception but no one discussed how if the three dudes went under their real names, would they still have won? Most likely....no.
Women used to use male pseudonyms back in the day and it was seen as a tragedy, but when men have to do it in the modern day it's repulsive
based. so very based.
I can't find this anywhere. What are their names?
Jorge Díaz, Agustín Martínez and Antonio Mercero are television scriptwriters in their 40s and 50s
@@RachelRichards above or look at 2021 Planeta prize
Nowadays, literature is about muscular millionaires vampires werewolf falling in love with middle age wine moms
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Why is this so true!?!?
@ionryful men watch porn. Women write it. Women love a man that sexts like this with them. Its why they think flirting with chatbots is cheating.
But why is this coming from feminists, don't they hate men power fantasies?
Pain
As a female high-fantasy/sci-fy fan with a passion for reading, I am sick and tired of entering the "Fiction" isle and seeing that it's 75% softcore p°rn disguised as "low fantasy".
I grew up with Tolkien, Ursula Le Guin, Henry Lion Oldie, Heinlein etc. Can we please bring that level of quality back?
I am SO DONE with fairy princes having their "eyes darken" at the sight of Mary Sue number 25.
One tends to wonder whether the "middle aged white liberal ladies" echochamber that is modern publishing has something to do with this situation [the question is rhetorical].
Right on the money
For science fiction (so excluding fantasy), I suspect that it's also fundamentally harder today: science has progressed, the public is more educated, naive dreamy stuff with space travel explained by quantonuclear polyphasing and lasers making pew sounds in space wouldn't have much appeal today. And if you try to be more realistic, it's much harder. In short, as we approach the singularity, it gets harder to have visions of the future.
"Everything is a rewrite or a slightly edited copy of Twilight."
@@AnoNymous-mv4mj "Somewhat realistic sci-fi is often depressing."
"Take for example the videogame, The Forever Winter."
"It's a sci-fi dystopia setting that is a bit more believable because the tech in that world may resemble the tech we will possess two or three centuries from now."
"But as said, the entire premise is depressing but believable."
@@AnoNymous-mv4mjtheres plenty of classic hard scifi that holds up, even if some of the science has progressed. Honestly, a lot of the best military scifi is a good 30-40 years old even now. Despite so much real world military examples of war to learn from, somehow portrayal in fiction is getting dumbed down.
Seems like 90% of contemporary fiction has a plot that’s pretty much, “One woman’s struggle…”
"...to get her rocks off on someone elses expense, while spouting endless toxic misandry for no apparent reason."
"And be the best at everything naturally, because she's just that damn good."
@@BigDaddyJinx IF ONLY THE IDIOTIC MEN WOULD STOP KEEPING HER DOWN! and someone else praises her for being Angry all the time.
@@tapiolautavaara9532 Because all they know how to write are self-inserts.
100%. They are such bores.
How to take something over in 5 steps:
1. Demand access
2. Demand accommodation
3. Demand power
4. Demand total control
5. Restrict access to others
Claim 'discrimination/oppression/grievance' and play on the public's sense of unfairness. Preach equality. Seize power ruthlessly while claiming and preaching all this then once firmly established in untouchable power do the complete opposite while still preaching the opposite of what is being done.
100%
Something, something... Muslims.
This is literally the LGBTQ agenda.
@@AffectedArea the game of power is sickening
Notice how pretty much every single one of these authors say "This was inspired by my experience" and "This is about me and my identity", these people are simply incapable of stepping outside of their own minds.
That's the very definition of female solipsism.
The beautiful part of fiction is exactly the opposite: the chance to inhabit another world through another person's eyes.
studies conducted on children playing showed girls most often turned their toys into an extention of themselves, whereas if a boy was handed a batman toy he would immerse himself into the "role" of batman while he played with it
Solipsism - or - Main Character Syndrome
What wrong with writing books based on your experience.
If a group of male authors got together and created the boys literature club it will instantly be called a sexist frat house
It'd be fun tho.. Let's do it :P
Good.
Not only that. While it may work in the US, in Europe you'd be bombarded with discrimination lawsuits, and judges would be thrilled to ram a dagger into your back and feel good about it. And the media would praise them for it too - "evil sexist club of men has been taken down, here's the hero."
@@brantjustilian3791 Sexist? More like brilliant! I’m in!!
It already exists. We just don’t care about being “liked” or “popular” it also includes women…
A woman told me once “all men want and think about it sex” and I responded with “woah… I’ve read books by both men and women, and there is way more sexual content in women written books”
They say that, but its projection. Just pay attention when a hot dude walks into an office or a store. All the chicks stop working and stare at him until he leaves.
Now when the reverse happens, hot chick walks into office. Dudes take a glance and get back to work. Maybe one will try to make some smalltalk.
Just bc u have a low sex drive doesn’t mean the majority of men do. There are so many studies out there showing men are more sexual, and as long as you’re not assholes who assault or make disgusting comments (as many of you are), there’s nothing wrong with that. Men watch porn and women write smut. No big deal until Mr. Victim complex makes a video whining about how he’s disadvantaged bc the publishing industry knows the profitability of smut.
@Dannalasapa it's not true though. They just lie about it in surveys and men are more honest.
Watch what they do and you won't be able to conclude that they have lower drive than men.
@@DannalasapaJust because your mind is ridden with lust doesn't mean that everyone elses' is. The studies show women's sex drive is more reflexive than spontaneous compared to male sex drive, so your statement is a moot point at best.
@@Dannalasapabring the study and then we'll believe you
The blindness of the administrators is extreme: The very HR departments that complain about gender imbalance and manipulate the rest of corporations, are themselves 90% women, and have no intention of changing this.
I know! These people banging on about diversity are all upper middle class white women.
Women do be illogical. That is true.
It was never about gender imbalance. It was always about taking over. Women are openly sexist when it comes to hiring and promoting and any man who tries to be impartial on this subject is a coward.
Socrates pondered who guards the guardian. The guardian is self guarding like the soap is self cleaning.
@@DrLimbic Hypocrites got to hypocrite.
I work as a bookseller at a popular chain, and I deal with publishers quite a lot. The whole publishing industry is massively biased towards women now, and biased towards a particular brand of very middle class, very white, feminism.
Therefore, how can anything that isn't shallow drivel get published? Exploring new ideas and old ones in a new way, for instance? This is more than a rhetorical question.
This applies to most entertainment.
Thanks for confirming what the public is seeing
It's ironic, their arguments always were that literature and fiction in general were being held back by a perceived bias towards white straight male authors. Somehow replacing that supposed bias with one towards an even narrower demography, liberal white women, isn't just as bad or worse in their minds.
@@aleksander8497👍
Men, boys, and masculinity have been under attack for a while. I don’t see any of these trends turning around anytime soon.
It will when society breaks down and masculine virtues once again become necessary for survival.
the muslim world went through this in the 70s and look how they ended up....
war is coming
I'm really curious about what sort of a warped mine manages to see patriarchy and toxic masculinity everywhere, even as men and boys fall further and further behind.
@@SmallSpoonBrigade Very good point; and yet it continues to worsen....
@@SmallSpoonBrigade those with bad relationships with their fathers
“When people get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination.” - Thomas Sowell.
I have friend who self pushers
I'm seeing this phrase more and more. and it very true.
@@anthonylulham3473it's funny because the freaks used it all the time to explain why the discrimination white men face is okay, now we are seeing its actual meaning.
Ironically, the wokies said the same thing eight years ago.
Remember when feminists would say it is not about preferential treatment, it's about equality, and once we have equality we'll stop? They didn't stop.
I suspect men just walk away. I've stopped watching TV because it all seems to revel in emotional turmoil or girl-bosses with no regard for obvious solutions. My own daughter wrote for an inter-school short-story competition. I had to warn her that if she wasn't writing about a feminist struggle, or immigrant injustice she was unlikely to win. Sure enough, all the winning stories had particular characteristics. With ideological capture, it won't end until the money runs out.
Male flight sadly is a thing.
Just think about it. If a man dominates a woman in a field he is ‘beating a woman’ and if he is losing to a woman he is being ‘beaten by a girl’. When faced with a lose lose scenario most men choose to leave the arena and surrender the fight.
Unfortunately true.
Sad but true. I have been trying to get my book published, it’s a sci fi horror novel about a retired veteran with ptsd who enters an abandoned space station with his group of rescue workers in only for stuff to happen which makes the character (and by extension the reader) question if what they are seeing is true or if it’s the ptsd playing tricks on the mind and making them see things.
I tried publishing it but all the publishing houses refused unless I made “certain changes”…. Like making the main protagonist a girl or making the protagonist and the whole group girls, adding in gay romance (the main protagonist is close friends with another and they wanted me to make them gay, I said no cause it would change the tone of the story which is supposed to be scary), or a bunch of other stuff which I declined because it would ruin the story which again it’s supposed to be scary (and maybe have a bit of allegory that talks about the struggles of mental health among veterans).
I refused and left cause I am not going to make those changes cause doing that would change the whole story and I am not about to become a sell out.
*Because men are criticized for expressing their desires, dreams and preferences, being labeled as misogynistic, while women are encouraged to express theirs and are called brave and independent. Men face punishment and are held back, making publishing and entertainment industries hostile environments for them.*
Women haven’t even had bank accounts of their own in the states for 50 years. The rest of history things have been very limited and women have pretty much been enslaved to different degrees. What you’re seeing is after thousands of years a section of humanity being able to participate in a society where a lot of struggling men treated poorly at least had the consolation women were inferior. Now men are retreating from any activity women enjoy because they associate it with low status. No one is coming to save any of us and I suggest just getting more stoic about the set of circumstances you were handed, stop watching violin t corn that trains you to see women as thins to humiliate, and just do what you want in this world. Men are criticized, sabatoged, and SAed the most by other men tbh. It just doesn’t feel like it because anger at women creates a false temporary comeraderie. Like an alien invasion would. Work towards your goals without caring what others think.
@C12341 lady women have been able to have their own bank accounts for centuries, it was married women that needed concent because their husband's were responsible for taxes and didn't want to go to jail. Also, unless you're 80 you never experienced any of those hardships, just read hyperbolic accounts from activists.
Second, if it were true men didn't want to read the audiobook and indie markets wouldn't be on track to eclipse the traditional publishing market in terms of sales. And those books are typically written by men and bought by men.
Please stop listening to the Marxists, they only lie.
This is just fiction, you realize that, right?
@@C12341lol the women who are alive have lived in nothing but freedom and privilege. They didn't suffer the hardships women of the past did. Give me a break.
@@modus18 that is a logical fallacy because very few people male or female have privilege. Currently kidnapping for prostitution and trafficking is huge and there are a lot of women suffering. They’re not a monolithic collective. Just like lots of men suffer. Women getting books published on apparently trite topics doesn’t change that, and you’ve got to evaluate people as individuals. You wouldn’t paint all white peoples with one brush. Think of them like that, like a different race and you’ll get what I’m saying
It makes you wonder how many great works of modern fiction by male authors are not being published
They're not even bothering to write them. They took one look at the publishing landscape and rode off into the sunset on a donkey. They're probably just growing artichokes on a small ranch somehwere, naming their chickens extremely creatively.
A lot, my limited experience with trying to get published is that the content and quality of your story means nothing, and the identity of your protagonist(s) means everything. This was back in 2017.
Male authors are inking out a living with self-publishing and Amazon sales. But they go largely unrecognized, because the writing clubs and awards all favor the BIPOC and LGBTs.
I just self publish in scribble hub.
@@Adelina-293 That's the impression I kept getting from guys who've tried since that time. They're saying the same thing. Not to mention being openly told what kind of protagonist they need to even be considered and "sensitivity readers" being foisted upon them to fundamentally change their work. What a clusterfvck.
I’m a male book writer who long gave up on getting published. I’ve self published four books on amazon, market on instagram and sell very few copies. But I’m still doing it and enjoying it.
That is me as well. I won four IPPYs in 2015-17, but was told offhand at the last event I attended in 2019, not to bother submitting anymore. That year there were two women run ‘publishing houses’ that dominated almost every category. I can hardly imagine how it is now.
@@BRLaue Damn. I didn't finish my first until early 2019. Poked around a little before getting a grasp of the situation and deciding to just do my own thing.
@ Good for you, keep at it. Amazon may or may not be a help. Try a few other platforms before getting locked up with them.Smashwords which is now Digital2Digital would be a good one to look into to.
yo whats the book about
Drop a link or give us something to google
None of their books will be read in 25 years
Not even a decade. They’ll be forgotten immediately.
I am returning to Hemingway and F. Scott. Reading the classics will remind you that at one time, authors could actually write.
These days, writers do not write. They wrong.
I think that you are being overly optimistic.
10 years...
@@itzakehrenberg3449 3 years?
For an all powerful, international organisation hell bent on keeping women down, the patriarchy sure does suck at it sometimes. Especially when it comes to controlling the narrative.
I need to stop paying my patriarchy subscription. I am clearly getting nothing out of it, especially with DIE now dominating recruitment.
Stop that suffering martyr crap. Everyone is tired of hearing it.
@@JoshuaCunningham-c6p We now live in a toxic feminist society. I am sick of it.
@@JoshuaCunningham-c6p I'm not really sure who that is directed at but I can assure you that there is no martyrdom on my part. I am merely noting with some amusement that the so called patriarchy appears to be relatively ineffectual at its one job.
Where is my pateiarchy power... i am nearly 50 and divorced..
I'm a male author who has been distancing himself from the publishing industry over the past year to explore other fields. The harassment that male authors experience in publishing is absolutely insane
Go into game design. The best male writers are creating universes in games which are as rich and nuanced as Macondo or Yoknapatawpha County.
@@NJGuy1973 that's exactly what i wound up doing. been doing it since December 2022
@@stuffedmannequin Good move.
what kind of harassment did you go through?
And if you dare to self-publish you will be shamed for it too.
Reject modernity, embrace classic literature
Yeah, I fear we have left what will be referred to as "the golden age of fiction."
Cormac McCarthy pased not long ago at all. He's modern, just not postmodern.
Dude honestly. Fiction from the 20th century was just better. Deeper, more complicated and nuanced, more insightful, more challenging and risky. And this goes beyond gender, my favorite writer might be Flannery O’Connor. Good god what an incredible writer she was, and she’d be ashamed of the trash being peddled now
Decide to read everything on my high-school reading list I never got to. I have now read every word Hemingway ever wrote.
We can reject modern culture, but modern culture will keep printing on. Create and indulge in the culture you want to see
You read most these books written by female writers and often than not they all end up being: Hunger game rip offs, ranting, creepy stalker girlfriend or woman who wants to get with a 'bad' boy, or just copy and paste romances.
Which is why I read a lot of middle grade books.
And she is always a virgin while he slept with many, but just so wonders to fall for her.
@@zipperzee I know, when the kids books are offering better books. You know the publishing industry is doomed.
Any recommendations? I'm desperate for some good news sci-fi or fantasy
See, there's a market for all that. It's called "Kindle Unlimited" and you don't even need a publisher to get noticed, just some spread of infamy around blogs.
Mainstream publishers seem increasingly worthless, even for women who just want to write stuff people want to read.
Booktok and its consequences ruined modern literature.
The Publishing industry was like this well before the rise of Booktok though the latter has only made things significantly worse.
This started way before
This has been an issue long before TikTok even existed
Booktok is a product of all problems of modern literature not something that ruined it
For people who have no idea what booktok is like, how did it do that?
I don't know about Britain or Europe but in the United States this has resulted in most new male authors bypassing the publishing industry either self-publishing (for physical copies)or using Amazon publishing (for digital copies). Male authors and readers did not go away but they did mostly leave the traditional publishing industry.
I agree. I’ve read some excellent books from male authors that were directly published to Amazon
Honestly as a woman I’m going to be honest. There was an article on substack about how “boyhood is uninteresting and needs to stop being written about” a la Shiloh or Miles Morales or any popular tale about growing up a male and it DISGUSTED me. It hurt to read. The even more shocking part was that it was written by a woman but there were MEN in the comments agreeing and praising the take. Absolutely awful.
Fem i nism has poisoned the West. Although to be fair I don't know what else any of us expected, considering that when they mask off to talk to each other they describe the ideology as an actual virus and talk about "infecting" every facet of life. Because that's so necessary. (sarcasm)
"Hence why men hate what we refer to as simps and white knights."
"These are the kind of men who think that slandering other men to impress a woman is a valid dating strategy."
Dark knights are those who shame these simps. @@oompalumpus699
Link?
Simps, we call them simps.
I REALLY fucking hate that _“How women conquered the world of fiction”_ article image because it implies women conquered by being better writers lol. No, they conquered is by basically spamming trash and there’s been a collective efforts the past few years (especially post-MeToo) to push men out of it and advance female voices. Everything women have gotten their hand on has gone to shit lol.
What I find so detrimental about this female dominance in literature is the over reliance on identity issues. Female authors may be winning all the prizes but I would like to see their book sales, because these subjects have little mass appeal. Where are the new Mary Shelleys giving us 'Frankenstein' or the Agatha Christies giving us modern murder mysteries or the Gen Z JK Rowlings writing about wizards? The female authors in the world of literature seem to be following in the failed footsteps of Hollywood. The Acolyte's Leslye Headland, instead of making a swashbuckling show about sci-fi adventure, gave us the same boring doctrine of intersectional gender studies infused navel-gazing that so many modern female writers are trapped in.
I think a part of the problem that these things are semi-dead markets now. When I was 18 I used to ride around in my car, listening to radio. I mean back then we already had CDs but I was broke and it was actually fun. Then came mp3s, then smartphones and today I'm chronically online. Why would I pick up a book when I can hear a podcast? I think men have moved to videogames and youtube, for better or worse.
Female authors who write good stories are going the same place men are. The publishing industry wants them even less than they want men because they might expose the ideology for what it is. A virus designed by the unintelligent and perpetually hateful.
@@justachannel8600 yeah but only those two suck. I am also chronically online, but maaaan, youtube sucks, when you do it every. fucking. day. And videogames are active entertainment mostly, you gotta do something every second. They cannot replace prose where you venture in a different world and passively experience a tale.
@@PandaPanda-ud4ne I'm not necessarily in disagreement. Just saying how it is.
@@justachannel8600 Exactly. Book sales don't make even 10% of what they used to. Everyone has moved to videogames and other digital creations/consumptions. So the karens run an echo chamber which barely makes them money to keep going.
This is why when you go into a bookstore nowadays, every single new book cover is some mishmash of colors with little to no artwork with the title printed in huge print in a stupid font. All literature, even older stuff, is aimed at the 30-40 year old female demographic now. Look at cover artwork from decades ago, an amazing genre of artwork was flushed down the toilet so that the industry could solely focus on one demographic.
"all literature is aimed at the 30--40 year old female demographic"
All society. Welcome to weimar.
Yes! The plinths of new titles look wildly colourful and gaudier than the interior of Willy Wonka's factory.
100% right
And it's cheap, one must imagine.
I hadn't been to a major bookstore for a couple of years for various reasons, and wow, B&N was bright. We purchased a Lego set, the Hofstetter Tolkien from a couple years ago, and something from the crafty shelf. No interest in any new fiction... not that this is new, but the offerings have gotten even less appealing.
@@amalekedomite Try querying agents to get a novel published - they are part of the problem too. They are feeding the publishers what they want and what they know has been selling. In addition, the genre market has eclipsed more literary writing or writing that doesn't fit some formula.
Studies have repeatedly found male teachers grade boys and girls the same even when grading blindly while female teachers grade boys a half letter grade worse for no reason. That same discrimination is likely at work here.
I wouldn't be surprised if this is true, but could you point me to such studies so I can be sure?
Which study? I've seen the ones saying that girls have an easier time getting good marks with the modern focus on standardization (boys generally need more hands-on learning and time to get up and move throughout the day), but not about blatant discrimination. I dont disagree, it probably happens (towards boys or girls, depending on the teacher), but i don't imagine any school willing to do such a study and put their issues down on paper lmao.
I graduated with a Bachelor Degree in Comparative Literature and a Masters Degree in Media Science about 25 years ago. For the last five years I have pretty much given up on modern fiction in part due to this phenomenon. I have tried reading some of the hip new female fiction writers and honestly find the ones I've read to be uniformly narcissistic, openly misandrist and most importantly, dull as f...k. That may be a coincidence, but I do think Echo Chamberlain is onto something here. I've drifted more and more towards non-fiction like history, which still has a large proportion of male writers and would estimate that 90% of what I read is non-fiction and the rest is older fiction (with quite a lot of women writers among them such as Margaret Atwood and Ursula K. Le Guin).
Many of the recent generation of female-authored fiction novels are just women creating narcissistic versions of themselves as characters
The key difference is that women like Le Guin had to compete with men. The female writers back then were the best of the best.
Now women writers get by by being a woman. They are competing with other women who got the job for having the right genitals. The bar has been lowered.
Welcome to weimar.
The reason history books remain relatively good is because the amount of research needed to get through so to write such books can be very strainful, something most women find boring and don't want to do. Most women, even historian ones, don't want to sit down and research how many pilae would be needed to supply a Roman army on campaign or make calculations about how many days would take a Chinese army to cross the Gobi desert and reach central Asia. Such technicalities are agonizing in female eyes.
@@hebanker3372 I'm a female writer - of fiction, by the way - and detailed historical/scientific research is one of my favorite parts of the writing process. I start with a scene in my head, and the research shows me how the scene would play out, how it would look, sound, and feel to the characters. It's so much fun. I know what kind of writer you're thinking of. But please don't say "the female mind can't handle the research process" - my female mind thrives on it.
@@talithakoum3922 exceptions are not rules.
Exactly what I want to read, another book about the experiences of a teenage or college aged gender queer female. I'm sure it will be super engaging and enlightening
Said no one ever.
Ask for a book suggestion in r/fantasy. There are people that actively search this shite out or recommend it and get annoyed if you say it's not what you're looking for.
"Those books can keep us warm if we throw them in a fire."
yeah man, after coming home from my shitty 9-5 gig economy job, I, the average male age 18-27 giddy in delight knowing that what awaits me on this rainy winter day is a 2h session of reading yet another handmaid's tale copycat in which every male character is either a emasculated goofball who by virtue of being short and emotional is OBVIOUSLY playing the orbiting slave- simp cuck that female protag leads on or literally just Henry cavil if he was evil
And if the story is about trans, then I’m sure it’s ultra short. Ya know, like their lifespans.
I'm glad this is being addressed. I'm a woman and I'm kinda sick of all the shitty writers that just so happen to be women! Do they publish ANYONE as long as they're women? It's hard to wade through all the crap to find anything good. Now I just try to go through all the male writers I can find. Better quality, less crap.
Not saying ALL women writers are bad. But they sure publish a lot of bad female writers.
i've honestly had to start reading stuff written decades ago just for it to be tolerable.
It is a shame. Before when i saw a woman writter in a male genre i automatically though that i got garanty quality. And rarelly if ever i was wrong.
Now? Forget it. Even some of the rare male authors do no have that above average quality. They seem like all the others.
Women were fighting strongly against the old system for so long. Men seem to not care that much to fight the new system.
Let us hope that it is just a phase. In the end my words are just broad generalizations based mostly on feelings. What is the reality of publishing?
But my eyes and brain are failing me so i probably will not see how low literature will fall.
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A lot of men spend all their money on drugs/betting/video games
There's a good chunk of women who spend all their money on "spicy" enemies-to-lovers reylo fanfic with the names changed
So, yes, publishers will just publish it all because it does sell
You need to look at the complete shutout of the working class too from all cultural industries. And im not talking about rich liberals who claim they grew up working class (and didnt.)
In Britain when shows are actually made about the working class they are exclusively written by rich liberals so are completely ridiculous.
Writing used to be a working class profession. There's a reason why stories are better by working class than a some privileged, sheltered, private college educated person who never had to work for a living
You need to look at the complete shutout of genitles from the cultural industries. I'm not talking about people with normal looking noses who claim they never had a nosejob (All their kids are married into the tribe). In Britain when shows are made about anything, it's exclusively done with a view towards judaic aims and ideologies like feminism, communism, globalism, or lgbtism. It's completely weimarian.
This has also happened in the US
@@somethingclever8916 I suppose you're talking about a brief period 50 years ago, because 100 years ago the low working class couldn't even read.
@@AnoNymous-mv4mj Actually, people 100 years ago were FAR more literate than today.
I had a female editor at both HarperCollins UK and Random House. They wrecked my career, allowing 120,000 copies (uncopy-protected) to go out on dozens of pirate sites and then canceled my contract. And they blamed me for it. (And both got promoted.)
Damn.
Female incompetence, lack of responsibility and failing upwards...this is horrible.
Too bad you cant sue the publishing companies in general and those hags in particular, they should have to pay you several fortunes in damages.
Hopefully you have had a lawyer look over your case
Seems intentional on their part, doesn't it?
They cry out in pain about gatekeeping, as they gatekeep against you.
Leftism = projection and inversion.
Pretty much bully behaviour. They'll hit you, think it's funny, won't stop for any reason that doesn't amuse them, and when you hit them back, the tears come pouring and the teacher scalds the bullied kid for "escalating it"
DEI and sensitivity readers destroyed books without anyone paying attention. Picking up almost any book, fiction or non-fiction, written or even published after 2010-ish is terribly risky as many have this tone, prose, plot, and characters that are creepy to read. (Make no mistake, even classical books are not safe as they WILL be subjected to sensitivity editors as new editions are published).
thank god for used bookstores
Ancient Greece went through a dark age when writing system has been lost. It's ok to go through a dark age that expunges the toxic waste of bad ideas.
Buy up old prints of the classics while you can!
DEI and Sensitivity Readers. More like Gate Keepers and Censors.
Plenty of people were paying attention and calling it out, they were just called racists and sexists and what not, and others were too afraid to even listen to them for fear of being called the same. The fear of people being perceived (incorrectly) as a racist, sexists or whatever other ism by people who are actually exemplifying those very characteristics will destroy the West.
Libraries when I was a kid: whole walls of sci fi, war stories, fantasy, technical manuals. Books floor to ceiling, Shelves of books everywhere. A cavern of books.
Libraries now: Romance, true crime, romance, true crime, black history section, communist section, feminist section, romance, true crime. Massive empty space, a few shaelves here and there. Open, breezy, like a coffee shop.
And they wonder why young lads today don't read. This is every public library in the North West of England.
The only books worth reading are old books. The books that are published today are garbage.
True story: I'm a male, black, published author (but I don't make a living off of it yet) My nephew's school library removed Lovecraft's work because of his racism. I went to the school board meeting and said that was wrong because he was still a great author and was an inspiration to me. The white, upper class school board people booed me and told me I needed to be educated on the subject.
I don't like this timeline
@@rumrunner8019 I'll read what you wrote just to support a new author. Where can I find your stuff?
@@rumrunner8019 in my local school library they just changed the horror book section from Lovecraft with books for "modern audiences" based on his work (for example "Ring shout" or "chilling adventures of Sabrina").
They aimed at lovecraft explicitly thanks to a presentation hold in a "ethics class" where the goal was to show racism from famous people in history. None of the people that where for removing his works ever read one of his stories and the people that did wanted to stay neutral. And what was even worse is that they just thrown it away, instead of the regular procedure of just giving them to someone who wanted them
But for example Charles Dickens is fine cause he wrote classics and at the same time they used a lot of money to change especially the kid books to the modern versions where "bad words" got changed. Especially the works of Astrid Lindgren
Communism itself is a bad idea, but its modern interpretations and rehashes by modern West are way worse. These books are written by people who would have been sent to camps by old time commies.
I think this is quite simple: A LOT of fiction is basically just "porn for women". It's "erotica" because that's how the book will still show up in Amazon searches and such. So... young girls can find it. Just like how boys as young as 13 are said to be addicted to watching porn. Erotica is just porn for women.
But because it's not as "simple" as normal porn, or the one mainly males consume, nobody thinks there's any problems with it. Have you even seen a discussion of women talking about how "erotica" can be damaging? How it gives young girls unrealistic expectations and objectifies men and romantices toxicity? I haven't. They don't do it. They think it's "female empowerment" to allow women to get addicted to reading porn about a girl boss in a love triangle with a BBC and a brunette white twink.
Not to mention that these things are being read in front of people, in public. If perversity is innately unwelcome, why is this not being addressed with the same disgust?
They don't talk about it they have the privlige to cry foul when called out
No i absolutely have seen women talk about it, on youtube many people talk about how this kinda literature is toxic and cliche and harmful etc. Go watch these videos fr. In fact, every fucking body criticizes booktok and these stupid books. So yeah.
@verletzt546 good this gives me hope
It's not that men don't read, its that there is nothing to read. Men are currently reading asian novels who still have the masculine spirit.
Wuxiaworld. Lots of novels there.
That's not true. Read old books, especially the classic literature.They are worth reading.
Fair point.
that and manga
@@Sarpiente I also spent plenty of hours there. But now I switched to the western traditions. I still want to finish 40 milleniums of cultivation at some point. I'm halfway through that.
You know its biased towards women writers when one of the most successful modern fiction writers, who's a man, Brandon Sanderson, has to go independent to publish his own books 😅
He was just being smart. You get a bigger chunk of the cover price and control your product completely when you self publish.
Never heard of him.
@@nickcharles1284 Yeah well no one said you can't be a philistine.
@@christophertaylor9100 Exactly: the industry has changed.
@@MrDezokokotar 🤣🤣
2:15 Nah, it’s not a blindspot. They want to kick men out of everything.
Some months ago, I was in the comments of a video where the creator was asking where all the male writers went. She made SURE to point out how “ridiculous” it was to think it was W’s (can’t say the actual word) of a certain political ideology were kicking M’s of a certain ethnicity out.
Meanwhile, all of those M’s were in the comments answering: Crazy activist W’s openly told them no because they were M’s of a certain ethnicity
These issues are exasperated in the school system. I went through a period of hating books because no one I knew liked reading, and the only books I got through the school curriculum were the literary version of chick flicks.
It was one teacher in particular who had the presence of mind to try and include works the boys would be interested in.
I read Brave New World, Rime of the Ancient Mariner, Gilgamesh, Beowulf, and a few others in her class. Rekindled my love for the medium.
When I was in school the school libraries were great. Floor to ceiling books. Whole walls of sci-fi, fantasy, war books, non fiction books with cool diagrams and cutaways. Endless fun.
Now I'm a grown man who works as a contractor. I've been in every public or school library within 50 miles. They are all feminine. They all have massive amounts of floorspace. Gone is the magical book caves of my youth. Now its like an apple store. All white and bright and open and antiseptic and dead. Massive amounts of romance, true crime, boring slice-of-life fiction or melodrama.
I always, and I do mean always, look. If there is what I would call "mens books" they are in one section. Maybe one standee. That one standee is maybe 5% of all the books in there.
A young lad today going into a library must feel like me when I was a young lad and my mum would take me into the womens clothing section in the shop. There's just nothing there for him at all. It doesn't surprise me at all that young lads are not reading books any more. I read a book a day and if libraries back then were like libraries now I honestly worry that I might have grown up illiterate.
Any teacher smart enough to have you read Brave New World AND Beowulf is aces in my book. That's one good teacher..
God bless that teacher.
When I was a kid I read through the whole school library in a few years. Even had to get my parents to ask the teachers to let me read upper grade books when I wasnt "old enough" for those yet. Then I upgraded to the town library and read every fantasy and sci fi story in there.
These days Im more likely to read a long wikipedia article about history than to go read a new book.
It’s especially nice to hear an XX (I can’t say the word; TH-cam doesn’t like when I do it for some reason) teacher did that.
Coming up through school, the only book I was required to read that I actually liked was Anthem by Ayn Rand. That one stuck with me. Even like 9 years later… I gotta read that again sometime.
Also, I’ll bet there are a TON of people just like you. They think they don’t like reading, but it’s because school shoved a book in their face they didn’t like and forced them to care about it. And it’s sad that happens
The statistic about women making up the majority of publishing staff remind me of how they also make up the majority of HR personnel. Women are very good at maneuvering themselves into positions of influence, despite claiming to be underrepresented as such.
it's not about being good it's about being abusive. If a system can be abused it will be until such point that the only people in positions are those who abused the system to get where they are and only hire others who approve of their abuse.
HR departments are a cancer on any company.
HR doesn't have influence though. They are just the owner's goons
@@scobeyrowley5115 HR has tons of influence--they control who the hiring managers even get to see, since the person who might actually win the meritocracy is probably some kind of "toxic male". What winds up happening is that the hiring managers only get to see the people who play along with the queer communist agenda even have a chance of getting hired, and then you wind up with all kinds of horrible commercials, and then you wind up with a company like Harley-Davidson trying to advertise to the gay-pride-parade, and then they lose all their money. It's the Bud Light (and Target) phenomenon, and it's usually caused by some invisible basic bitch named Karen who's been working in HR just long enough to start throwing a wrench in the works of everything.
Cushy high paying jobs requiring little toil or a high skill ceiling? Yeah, no surprise 😄
I have a female friend who works as a literary agent at a top publishing house in the uk. A couple years ago she said they don't even touch submissions for young white men anymore, they're filtered out, to focus on minority voices. At the same time she said that sales for the selections they were making weren't going very well
This jives with my own experience as a beginning male author. In 2017 my first novel received interest from several literary agents and I signed with one. My second novel got...crickets. 50 queries, no response AT ALL. I was tempted to change my name to Roberta and resubmit.
This video resonates with my own experience of flip-discrimination as a man. An alternative profession to explore is HR. It's a historically and currently female-led profession with, what I found to be, a high barrier to entry if you're a man. When I was younger, I wanted to go into HR as a career so, when I went to uni, I chose the modules I wanted to study to be geared more towards that profession and, as part of my degree, my 3rd year was going to be a placement year in industry.
So, in my 2nd year at uni, I made around 120 applications to entry-level HR roles and HR placement schemes. Around half became telephone interviews and half of those resulted in further on-site interviews or assessment centres. I even got down to the final 10 applicants for a role at Microsoft (which I'm still quite proud of). One thing I do remember is that everyone I met who interviewed me from HR was a woman (though I noted it - didn't think much of it at the time). However, as the deadline for finding a placement year got closer and I was having no success with HR, I began to panic and started applying for all sorts, eventually landing in a telesales role.
It was grueling 10 months of telesales but I got sufficient industry experience for my degree and came back to my final year at uni fighting. Throughout my final year, I did the same again but made about half the applications as I had done for my previous year and was trying to be more targeted and tailored with them. However, I found similar levels of (a lack of) success with HR roles and found myself dealling with the same demographic of people. The same thing happened: I ended up back in sales.
Now, I was good at what I did in sales. But the mental health and work-life balance cost greatly outweighed the monetary benefit, and it culminated in me having a panic attack in my car outside of my office (though I found -as a man- people really want you to just get over that kind of experience). So, nearly half a decade into my post-graduate sales career, I self-reflected and went back to my roots. I wanted to work in HR. This time, I spent around £3.5k of my hard-earned savings (most of which had already gone into supporting my then-girlfriend-now-wife's own career crisis) into getting a diploma-level qualification in HR management with the UK's top HR professional association. I spent a year studying for that. Sometimes, I would even do my assignments in my car, hot spotting from my phone during my lunch breaks. And, would you believe it?...
By the end of it all, HR still didn't want me!
This time, I made around 30 applications which resulted in a grand total of 2 telephone interviews and no job with the only modicum of feedback being that people weren't convinced with my "motivation" to go into HR. This time I was pissed! This time I thought something was wrong but not with me. This time I was also very familiar with how to use LinkedIn.
So, a few months down the line, I checked on the companies I had applied to to see who had been successful. And it was like naming the dwarves from The Hobbit but for middle-aged women: Belinda, Linda, Lynda, Glynda, Glenda, Brenda, Sharon, Karen, Nikki, Vicki, Sue, Susan, and Suzanne. Now, at the time, I didn't want to make any complaints but pattern-recognition was heavily kicking in!
The irony of my failure to get into HR was that it actually led me to my forever career and now I'm very happy about that! The company I actually ended up working for, I had applied to originally for an HR role but they offered me an alternative. When I was starting out in my new-found career, my line manager (who was a great mentor) checked-in with me at the end of my probation period and asked me how I felt about going down a different career route. I told him that I was actually really enjoying it and could see myself in this type of profession in the long-term and that, based on my experience, I was done with HR. He speculated that I had been discriminated against and then revealed to me (to illustrate the point) that our own HR Manager (a woman who hired another woman in the role I originally applied to) had described the ideal candidate using the "she" and "her" pronouns when speaking to her recruitment team.
And this was the lesson: people who fall into, what may be considered, a "minority" demographic and/or a demographic that has faced undue discrimination or prejudice are themselves not immune to such negative behaviour *even if they belong to a profession that is meant to reduce/eradicate that kind of behaviour*. In fact, they may be the worst perpetrators of it because they are either blissfully unaware or genuinely believe that their behaviour is justified due to their own mistreatment (either via direct or vicarious experience through others who fall into the same demographic as them).
My conclusion from this all: equality, like any other endeavour, is much like a fart. If you have to force it, it's probably shit.
By "flip discrimination" do you mean "discrimination?"
If so, by "discrimination" do you mean "unfair discrimination?"
What is wrong with you that as a young man you would want to go into HR as a career? You poor sod.
I upvoted the comment, but I didn't read it completely, tbh. 😅
@NoidoDev Understandable but thanks anyway.
I suspect that in most professional environments where women are the majority, there's misandrist discrimination. Unfortunately, nobody wants to investigate that. There's also a women majority in social sciences, by the way...
Good post. I am completely mystified why as a man you would even consider joining HR though if I am honest
It was never about equality and justice. It was about power and revenge.
True. And if gender politics are fundamentally power politics, then we'd be better off if men were to seize back power.
Exactly. They (communists) are sneaky so they do it gradually and lie about their intentions and the behavior of people they target at the beginning of their campaigns. Once the initial concepts are accepted or established regardless of public acceptance, they start expanding their claims and definitions. Eventually they reach the point where they do the opposite of what they initially preached which was *always* the intention.
revenge over something that in itself isn't actually based on reality or truth......
@@PrinceoftheVioletFlame Yes! I don't like the rw using 'they want revenge' because that's buying into leftist framing.
Lol revenge for a free ride? What a pathetic existence they have.
There is a total lack of creativity these days. I am a woman, in my late 50s, from childhood I loved SciFi books, marvel comics, scifi and fantasy movies, table top role playing games, fantasy, later video games. All that is being destroyed to push ideology and lecturing me. Books are being rewritten or edited for the modern audience, video games and movies are a pile of garbage. Now I stick to earlier video games, pre 2000 books, movies etc…. Western civilisation is doomed and being destroyed from within. Whatever replace it won’t be as good though. I bet you!
I'm a pretty liberal and (I like to think) open-minded person but I've entered this truly depressing stage where when people ask me if I've seen or read anything new, I don't know what to tell them--"I'm going back through Twin Peaks, had a Planet of the Apes marathon and am currently re-reading the Iliad?" I try to watch and read new movies and books but they leave so little impact on me that I can't even remember them when I'm asked.
@@jonathanj2106I myself aline with conservative ideology more, but man it’s so boring out here. Society and pop culture seem so devoid, angry, boring and just bad.
As a kid it seemed so alive and now everything is dull. Good think I stick to manga now.
There are some great indie games coming out still. You can still find some good novels online, I like RoyalRoad and WuxiaWorld personally.
Old books are great as well, some of my all time favorites are the Princess of Mars series, Tarzan series, and the Sherlock Holmes series.
I've worked in editorial roles for the last 20 years or so, and even with 4 female staff members to every male, do you think they ever shut up about it being a boy's club?
Nope. Not even for a second.
And never consider that externalizing agency is why they have/had less skill relative to men in the first place. - Alison
@@HoneyBadgerRadioNobody had less skill relative to men.
I am curious to the amount of men that actually apply for jobs in the editorial or publishing fields cause honestly this entire video feels like some dude crying about how society is "who you know, not how good you are" and "Men can't win some meaningless awards."
If the demand for "better fiction" written by men is that high and nothing but "trash fiction" aimed at 30-40yo white women is being published then why hasn't a group of men just started their own publishing company? And if they have already done that then should it not have popped off since the demand is so high? I mean you could argue that the women dominating the space have been gatekeeping men and stopping them from getting hard copies in bookstores but i'm pretty sure they can't stop somebody from starting a company, advertising on the internet and shipping physical copies themselves. Not to mention self-publishing exists.
@@CozyAir17 I think something that gets overlooked in many of these discussions is that men have largely moved on from written fiction to tv, movies, video games, board games, and podcasts.
Traditionally, it's a lot harder to get men into reading as a hobby, and men also tend to only like stories by and about men. (This is understandable. The psychological makeup of men and women, especially with regard to storytelling, is VERY different. This isn't even a conscious thing a lot of the time.)
With the boom of YA and NA, and the increase in sensitivity readers and the adulting of YA since 50 percent of the market is adult women--I know what I'm talking about there; I ran a YA book blog as and targeted toward women reading this stuff in their 20s and 30s.) it's no surprise that men have noped the hell outta there.
And if the trends from there have spread to other sectors of literature, as happene4d with certain ideologies throughout college campuses, it stands to reason that the result of the market targeting would be the same.
The reason this has failed in movies and games is that, unlike books, those mediums aren't as inherent to women, and the fare being offered is repackaged masculine storytelling with a robotic bitch at the helm--Captain Marvel, She-Hulk, the cast of Ghosthbusters 2016 etc. Film and gaming seek to encourage women to replace men, rather than catering to their desires. Books took female fantasties and decided they should act as an invasive species in every sector of the bookstore. Which screws everything up.
@@CozyAir17 It shouldn't need to be explained to you that replacing past misogyny with current misandry is reprehensible. Can you seriously not understand that?
As for the rest of your screed, you appear to know absolutely nothing about how the industry works. Maybe learn a thing or two before firing off hot takes like "self-publishing exists" or "just build your own publishing firm".
Nothing is as it was
It’s not just literature that has been terminally damaged by the ousting of conservative men and masculinity, but almost all creative fields of endeavour.
We need to call a spade a spade. Feminism is destroying human civilization. Maybe hyperbolic, but I can't identify another single factor that has so radically transformed society than the radical transformation of women.
Yep, we've been seeing AAA videogame stories and their sales absolutely devastated by demasculinised writing, despite the audience being 80% male. Men are going elsewhere or back to the past for their entertainment.
@@cattysplat indies and AA and foreign culture? I thank Japan everyday for carrying western culture (see Dark Souls, Elden Ring etc), otherwise after ww2 the west would be completely lost.
@@theyellowarchitect4504Japan is literally half the West when it comes to culture. Thank God for East Asia.
I know a couple of kiwi women authors, grew up with them and/or went to uni with them. A while back one was hosting a book conference and the flier listed all women authors, and maybe a male poet, suitably neutered and safe, so I duly asked why the predominance of women. The disdain and sanctimony was palpable. The response I got was "I doubt anyone had a problem with an all-male line-up 100 years ago. What's the problem with women being represented and having their turn?". I said by that logic she should set aside 30% of spaces for Asians, to reflect the global proportionality. Apparently that was no good, besides being a smart-arse answer, because Asians couldn't speak to our unique decolonising moment. Ugh. Intersectionality is like arguing with a rubik's cube - every time you try to address it directly it turns and recombines.
So, we no longer speak. I think the thing that drives kiwis crazy is the distortion of the idea of what's "fair". We have very little ideology except for values like fairness. To be told it's fair that women now get to have "their turn" to dominate is offensive, but also historically blind - perhaps the present is perpetuating an injustice? Would not merit allay some of the concerns that it's a girls' club fostering the priorities, styles and output of the girls' club?
By that logic of "fairness" we should be changing male-dominated criminal justice and sentencing to ensure that although men commit 80% of certain crimes, those women on trial should receive longer sentences, just to even up the total jailtime.
"Intersectionality is like arguing with a rubik's cube - every time you try to address it directly it turns and recombines." There's a simple heuristic here. Intersectionality = 'the women is always right.' - Alison
@@HoneyBadgerRadio I'm married, I get it.
The worst part at this particular time in history is that men as a group are not speaking up. We are not united, heavily divided by our workplaces, families, the fourth wave feminism zeitgeist that pervades all media, our childhood and minds tinkered with social engineering, that's been going on so long even our parents are products of. Many even hate themselves for being born men. The few men that do are so heavily punished, having their life destroyed and made a burning pyre example in the public media. Most men are not willing to be become a martyr for justice in an unjust world.
@@mxvega1097 im sorry for your loss
Asimov, Tolkien, Tolstoy would not be published today. 😢
That phrase: Would be made today, is annoying and true.
I am currently writing something as big as their works. I will self-publish if they will gatekeep me from success in traditional publishing.
Use a black female pseudonym, it's your only hope.
@@theq6797even before DEI they were pushing back against long books; Brandon Sanderson mentioned it in an interview some time ago. So... good luck, I guess.
Why won't they?
Everybody's talking about how DEI measures are ruining movies, games, comics etc. but almost nobody has the literature issue on their minds, very good content.
That's because most people don't read anymore and it's getting worse. Soon most won't be *able* to read...not that there will be anything good for them to.
Speaking of, there's been a trend of gamedev staff being mostly comprised of white women as group photos of modern gamedev teams have shown.
@@PerfectTangent Maybe let's not get too bleak. Another aspect of this is that there are soooo many classics out there that a young person who is getting into reading could spend a happy reading life and not touch anything published past 2010. I just recently picked up the Dune novels, and got really angry at myself that I didn't do that earlier.
@@VolkbrechtThat's basically what I've been doing. I gave up on new books in high school after reading one too many subpar YA novels. I think _Ready Player One_ was the final straw. Since then I've generally avoided books less than 30 years old. Well, I've always been drawn to the classics, but at that time I went all in and haven't looked back.
Surely it is only a matter of time before this does become detrimental to movies and TV shows as well (if it is not already)? Because they are already subject to much interference to cater to the mythical modern audience. But if productions are still to be adapted from books, then sidelining male authors also cuts many possible stories off at the source.
It's almost, almost, as if those who regularly champion "progressive" and "inclusive" spaces, only seem to want people who look like them, think like them, speak like them, and who are in the same social groups (i.e. white, middle class, feminist, liberal, female). Consequently, they produce works that only appeal to them and their subset of humanity. But because that subset now runs the publishing and literary industries, that is all that is recognised as " objectively good" and "creative". Anything seen as not belonging to that group and which broaches topics differing to their own world view and "lived experience" is cast out as "toxic" and "problematic". There's been very similar stories in gaming and Hollywood, as well as many other fields and industries.
They have become the very thing they fought against, but hey, let's see if they recognise the imbalance and strive to correct it, as the morally righteous people that they claim to be. I'm sure it will happen, any time now....
Hmm... yeah... uh... just don't hold your breath while you're waiting.
They Will cry about the patriarchy even if they control everything. Liberal white women will never be happy.
It's almost like weimar problems come from weimar ideology.
I wonder what solutions there are?
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Yes, and it's intentional. Books and the publishing industry are just one vector. There's a rather large culture war going on in the video game industry right now (Gamergate 2.0) and many gamers (regardless where they stand politically) are pushing back hard, and the big companies are feeling it in their bottom line. This is the best way to fight these things, not give money to the people pushing it.
What binds these collectivists together isn't race, sex, sexual orientation, or any of the myriad 'pet identities' they constantly tout. It's the ideology itself, namely progressivism, which is just modern day westernized Marxism/communism. In fact the word progressive was created by commies in the early 20th century to infiltrate the West because the revolutions in Russia and China would never work in the West because the middle class had it so good under capitalism. Whereas the commies of old focused solely on the 'class struggle' and the economy the collectivists of today have broadened that to include sex, race, homosexuality, transgenderism, and so on. For instance, you can notice this when a black person criticizes the ideology. Suddenly he's not longer an 'oppressed minority', instead he's now the 'black face of white supremacy'. The pivot point is ALWAYS the ideology, and everything else they whine about is just a smokescreen to hide that fact.
It's happening from both ends though: men are reading a lot less fiction, and that trend was well underway before this imbalance was in place.
Anyway, good video. A lot of my favourite male authors don't have a lot of the traits you mention as particularly male, but there's a definite difference.
No it was happening because of the women first push going on, however that's regarding mainstream fictional novels, men are still dominant in other forms of media.
The BBC had a feature about trying to get more women into the publishing industry back in 2012 (I think).
My friend got shouted at by his industry colleagues for pointing out that more than half his office (something non-fiction) and the entirety of the two neighbouring fiction offices were female. Apparently it was about the C level (moved goalposts) and he needed to shut up.
This is leaving aside the fact that his house had developed a “preferred style” since exceeding female dominance, so everything was being altered by a handful of ghost writers but that’s neither here nor there
Funnily enough I've been campaigning to get more women into sewage work and offshore drilling for years and the women are REALLY not very receptive.
It's a huge blind spot in judaic feminist ideology. Very odd.
I'm a woman and I hate this trend in modern publishing too. The writing in many of the newer books I've read is dull, the characters meander through thin, tepid plots, pondering their feelings on how horny they might be towards love interests that are forbidden to them. I still blame Twilight for starting this trend. To this day, when I look at fantasy sections in bookstores they are covered with red and black books, ugh.
Like it or not, if majority of literature that written by women are like that, that means women's fantasy is only revolving around sexuality, Similar to men that always wrote sci-fi/historical fantasy. It's just our nature. Men and women think differently. You can't force women to write sci-fi, similar to society can't forced men to follow our current trend in literature. The result will be ridiculously bad. The only thing that we can change is, giving men the same highlight as women in publishing their thoughts. But once again, as the video said it, that publisher themselves now dominated by women, would you guys willing to do the same as men from previous generations giving women a fair chance? No offense, but i've seen enough in workplace that women in charge are always have this weird power trip
That’s my main problem with female authors. Even in apocalyptic theme novels. They tend to focus to much on Romance. Like way too much. A zombie novel series I enjoy mostly. Is great except chapter after chapter of romance. I’m not interested in love during a Russian invasion where they create a virus to turn Americans into zombies. That part of the series is great. The action is great. Only to much romance crap. A lot of female authors jam that crap in. It’s annoying.
New books are just meh
Twilight didn't start the trend. That's womens fiction going back to the year dot. Google "romance novel fabio cover" for the 1980s meme version of this.
@@amalekedomiteah yes, the old “bodice rippers”
It’s not just literary, they’re everywhere now, they’ve got into the gaming industry & comics too, and are utterly destroying both. We’ve seen them chase off half the audience of comics, they’ve all gone to manga that still cater to us. And we’re now seeing the complete collapse of gaming, a bunch of games that cost hundreds of millions are utterly flopping.
Sony just had the biggest flop in the history of gaming, a game that cost them hundreds of millions to create was shut down after only 2 weeks because no one bought it, they then had to refund the few people that did. And another one is happening right now, all the mainstream sites are giving the game top scores, but all the independent sites & TH-camrs are saying it’s terrible.
It really sucks since we have to live through it and it will take decades or if not more to end.
Just play older games. I just started a new Morrowind playthrough. Who needs Veilguard?
I imagine getting published as a guy today must be impossible.
Sad too, as the greatest authors of all time would be forgotten if they were born today
I’m telling, as one who’s been in the trenches for a year now, IT IS. 90% of the publishing people are exactly who Echo says, and they’re looking for exactly who Echo says. Problem is, they care way more about WHAT you are than your story.
I imagine a huge amount of soy is consumed by the men that do get published.
@@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access Pretty ironic, since they claim to oppose discrimination.
What's to stop (it seems to be men?) creating their own publishing companies? They have no say over your business if you start it, and if it is enough of an issue, I don't see how this wouldn't be the natural course for things.
I’m sorry?! Did you say, “BORDERING on farcical”??? Publishing crossed that border some time ago. Entertainment in all its iterations has gone completely Leftist and Liberal-white-women-centric and excludes ideas not in accordance with their own mindless ideology.
hasnt hollywood or just art types in general been left of center? i dont know or care much about that kind of thing, but the extreme left permeating everythign is anoying as fuck.
And for people like me who only care about the story and prefer certain genres, all I get is stuff I don't care for even if it's good. What the last 20 years has shown me is that, like for male writers, most female writers suck. So now the majority of what we are getting is uninteresting suck, as apposed to interesting suck lol. Only a downgrade. So when I finally get something like "Will of the Many" by Islington I feel like I just found a pond in a desert.
They've been spoilt into thinking that the world can't survive without their input.
But here's the question: who is buying books? Is this maybe a simple case of eliminating the fringes to increase overall profitability? Honest question. There is lots of complaining about woke movies, but there doesn't seem to be much outrage regarding books.
Barbie would be so proud.
Yet the most anticipated book is the one that George R.R. Martin will probably never finish. Amazing how many women are into Game of Thrones. George R.R. Martin and Stephen King are actually great at writing female characters but neither one can craft a satisfying ending.
Quantity doesn't mean quality
To be fair: Quality of anything is pretty subjective anyway.
@@JRProductions1203 While people can't agree on what's good, there are a few telling signs that can be recognized even subconsiously by normies.
@@Bluestlark Very True!! But the thing about Normies is that they can be just as Progressive as the leftists. (sometimes)
Funny thing is that it’s completely fueled by jealousy and inadequacy. They know they’re worse, so they must maintain absolute control, because they’ll never be given the benefit of the doubt again.
Narcisism and resentment. Comes off in their writings as well.
Kinda parallels comedy as well when one thinks about it.
“Funny thing is that it’s completely fueled by jealousy and inadequacy.” exactly what you’d expect from a woman run business. “Narcissism and resentment.” This too, it’s as if there was going to be no other way.
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Mhh... I must disagree, I bet there are great female writers too, but if you privilege all femals you also push the bad ones and end up with "noise" and low quality as well. We should aim to giving equal opportunities and value quality. In music it is the same (I am talking about smaller scale, not pop industry here).Tthere are more men in music, but woman instantly get more attention, sometimes just because of looks because its pretty to have a girl shredding the guitar, while you notice as a musician yourself that men, who play way better, were not even considered. However, there are still a lot of really great female musicians, no doubt about that - but still that a lot of mediocre musicians get pushed just because they are female is simply unfair and a privilegue men simply do not have.
equality was always about power, not fairness. how many times do people have to learn this lesson: stop getting fooled by collectivists
Middle class will always say they fight for equality to get the lower class on their side and replace the upper class
I went into the bookstore at the airport yesterday. As a male, I struggled to find something to buy outside of the business and history sections. No wonder men aren’t reading fiction. When I went to the Fantasy/SciFi section, it was full of paranormal romance (much of it borderline smut, too).
Women have never known how to write romance without smut for whatever bizarre reason. They've also never known how to write adventure without derailing the plot for unnecessary or poorly crafted/implemented romance, which also always leads to bad smut.
@@kitalalaris I will say, as a guy, men also do sexy mcsexface female romance interest with legs up to here, no personality and boobs breasting boobily in books which really don't need them. I hate both, where men are described as sculpted gods or women as Aphrodites for paragraphs on end.
Romance, mainly heterosexual romance, is basically seen as a requirement in a lot of modern books/movies, and is often implemented poorly because 'well it won't sell otherwise', rather than the fact that they're women (there is also a decent amount of male gay romance written by women, which is done to varying degrees of success, but often also is poorly handled).
Women have known how to write romance (you can look at older books) and many still do, but they're not necessarily being published. I think this is less of a problem with 'female authors' and more of a problem with publishing houses just going with the existing trends.
I've loved fantasy all my life. Dragons especially. I read a lot when I was a kid, Eragon was one of my favourite series. I was really disappointed when I became a teen and tried to find some stuff for older audiences and it was all softcore porn (or even just full-blown smut).
To the original commenter: However, if you're interested in sci-fi/fantasy, my personal favourite series is Emerilia, written by Michael Chatfield. It's an 11 book series which is kind of like the Matrix if the Matrix involved a fantasy RPG after humanity was defeated by aliens, and now the creator of the Matrix hates what his alien species has become. There is a female love interest and a couple of lesbians and they're handled naturally, no smut whatsoever, the few instances are just fade to black with a couple of innuendos. Might not be to your tastes, I personally enjoy it.
@@kitalalaris All this time, they've accused men of only thinking about sex--and yet, when you really pull back the deepest layers of a woman's mind, it seems like they're the ones that are obsessed with it.
It's like men's highest virtues and callings are self-sacrifice in the name of a greater cause, putting everything aside including their own welfare, health, and safety, in order to make the world a better place than they found it... Meanwhile, women's greatest calling seems to be finding those kinds of guys, sleeping with them in the raunchiest ways possible, so that she can completely derail his path and progress in order to somehow make him so obsessed with her that he throws everything else to wind and worships and elevates her--screw making the world a better place, if she can get him baby-trapped and living life as her simp.
It's almost like there's a reason that most of the greatest inventors of all time were never married, or kept their families quite distant; also probably the same reason that most successful societies placed a significant amount of social and cultural restraint upon women. Because, apparently, if you let women do whatever they want to do, they will destroy societies.
@kitalalaris please dude dont insult me this way , this kind of book is what popular , there is plenty of good women writers that write smutless or free as be , but that dont sell and dont publish , so they dont push them , they cann write it and write stuff without flagrant romance , its just the market is very romance focused these days and push male and females who are uninterested out of the way
personally i carved myself my niche , and i found comfort in it , it also happen i am bilingual and arabic books , because of the general conservatism of the arabophone community dont have sex in them that often
- a girl who genuinely hate glorified fantasy erotica (because we all lying to ourselves those books are erotica rebranded)
@@kitalalaris They have though. Agatha Christie, Mary Shelley, Jane Austen, the Bronte Sisters etc, and for a more modern example : J.K. Rowling
When a helping hand turns into an over correction
EXACTLY💯💯
That’s been the world (especially I’m “entertainment”) since 2020.
No! When stupidity leads to evident results and we wonder why.
Why was it needed in the first place for women to write anything?
What advantage did that gave us?
Why did it matter who wrote these books?
@@dennisrounds1996 Indeed.
Over-correction implies that there was ever anything wrong before. Women evidently have an alien spirit and so their newfound dominance is terraforming the spirit of the West into something unrecognizable. It's an invasion of pampered barnacles.
This explains why no matter how polished my books are, agents say No. It's about identity politics and not story.
If you’ve never read Don Quixote I would suggest it. Extremely funny and entertaining as well as being very thought provoking. A gentlemen taking up the occupation of a knight in a time when knight hood and chivalry are gone wanders the land in search of adventure and fortune. Characters in the story are often charmed by Don Quixote while also pitying him for his madness but through this pity they find themselves playing along with his delusions in a way that makes them real. It is so good and was written 400 years ago so you can be sure it was when people had sense.
Once at school we had to write an essay based on a book, one of the books was Don Quixote, when I saw it was Spanish I changed it to Moby Dick.
@@sodakk17 I’ve read moby dick as well pretty interesting story and Ahab is badass. I’m reading the English translation by John Rutherford it’s a very fun read especially if you like knights and medieval fantasy and history like I do.
Yep. There’s a reason why quixotic became a word. No writers today are going to receive that accolade.
Don Quixote made me laugh dozens of times
I think he tried playing pirate after 😂😂
We've finally done it. As a society, we have become stupid enough to kill the written word...
"We"? Nah. Just one particular group of insanely rich people who are doing this deliberately.
Yep. I've had a couple of short stories published here and there by small presses, but I found it necessary to self-publish my novel. After submitting it to more than two dozen houses, it became obvious that female editors were rejecting it out of hand and that it was never going to be published conventionally. They're not interested in stories: they're interested in getting even for some imaginary grievance.
Tbh, as a woman, I just avoid most female authors. It’s mostly woke, cringe and/or feminist boring. So, I’m reading mostly male sci-fi or thriller. Like Shirtaloon or Scott Sigler
Yes that’s exactly. Modern literature is po (r)n for women
Unrelated but I would just like to reccomend you read "children of time." For sci-fi, and anything by Lawrence watt-evans for fantasy. Those are my favorites of all time.
@@bradthunderpants3283 have to check into it. But first I’ve got to read Gad Saad :The parasitic mind. Came across it on TH-cam, not sci-fi but explains how we got into the culture we’re “enjoying” right now
I had to stop reading Shirtloon at book 9. The main character Jason was just dragging the story down way to much
that's the thing! through no fault of their own, people have learned to associate (more than ever) women/diversity with "garbage" and that is 100% down to how these things have been marketed, how they have been presented, and how they haven't provided anything that genuinely lifts women/girls up in a way we can all get behind.
I have many girls/women in my life to whom I value and wish encouragment, but these projects are AWFUL for their image.. it's literally giving us reason to role our eyes at 'women' being in anything, and it's WRONG.
I tend to read fiction pre 2000. As a general rule it helps screen out the slop.
This is the way.
When I'm looking for something to watch, the first thing I check is the year it released.
@@Brekfastmachine Same here. Contemporary culture is so garbage and morally bankrupt that I've noticed film/TV from the early-mid 00s seems sane and wholesome by comparison. And literature? It has to be from decades ago. Seriously, I can count the number of fiction books I have read since High School that were published in this millennium on a single hand.
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It's weird when I watched a movie in late 90s early 2000s I thought was average but I rewatch it now and are like yeah this is pretty good.
a friend of mine only reads books by dead authors, in order to get 100% quality 100% of the time
I am a female writer who has been following publishing for the last decade and aspiring to publish my work one day. And I have become completely disillusioned with this pro-woman anti-man book industry. It is tragic that when boys hit a certain age, there are no longer books for them. Teen boys have to read adult books. And adult books are dominated by women to the extreme. Fantasy has been dessicated and turned into steamy romance fiction, and a woman's skin color and sexuality are the greatest determining factors in her career. Yet I will keep writing books, because we need sensible women (and men) writers who are interested in writing stories of quality, not self-insert porn.
As a female smut writer, I agree. The market is already flooded with titillating tales by women, for women. I don't attempt to monetize my stories. They can all be read for free online. I certainly don't want them to be readily accessible to minors. I apply plenty of tags and warnings to indicate who the intended audience is. Although I obviously write from a woman's perspective, I try to make my stories appealing to both men and women. The kinds of situations I write about are meant to be experienced by men and women together. I hope my work encourages people to quit reading about such things and start enjoying them together.
Whenever I walk into a bookstore and look at the kids/young adults section, it's rather striking how like 80-90% of it is geared specifically towards girls and "female empowerment"-type stories (or LGBTQ) and history. There'll be a "10 most famous female inventors/actors/scientists/politicians" book but no male equivalent anymore or even any work highlighting anything a historically significant man has done without making it somehow about women (or how what that man has done is somehow bad). It's all about inspiring little girls, and you know that's great. But who's inspiring the little boys anymore?
And the thing is, as you point out, that male writers' hits tend to do well with all demographics, while female writers' works just don't seem to resonate with boys/men in the same way. Same goes for movies btw. Both men and women can enjoy movies with classic male heroes, but gender-swapping these and the male interest drops dramatically (and even women don't actually go to see these movies in great numbers. Just like womens' football is really only watched by lesbians.)
Thats what made me stop reading fiction as an early teen. I felt phased out and couldn't connect to any of the stories. I can connect to female protaganists but the stories all felt like beginner romance novels.
Female writers barely resonate with other females. Women struggle with relatability.
They have to promote those top 10 best/influential women cuz there are only 10 of them in all of history.
JK Rowling has massive global appeal to all demographics but Tolkien has always been male centric (but not exclusively so) so let's not over generalise
@@scobeyrowley5115 Midwit fails to think in abstract terms and generalizations because it hurts his sensibilities yet again. Yeah, no shit a book thats primarily about a group of male friends on a quest to save the world appeals mostly to males. Tolkien still wrote stories that appealed to women FAR more than the slop women routinely churn out.
I saw a bit of this back around 2017 when I tried getting a WW2 story published. The deal offered was bad, the main point is the only reason the publishing companies looked at my story was because it had a female protagonist. If my character had been male I wouldn't have gotten an email response.
This is something I have noticed more obviously over the last 2-3 years. In libraries, I find most authors have women's names and their works are much more aligned than men's works - the content contains much more predictable levels of sentimentality, feminist-leaning storylines and characters with social interactions involving only progressive-type people. I've stopped reading them and started passing over women's fiction entirely. Thanks to this video, now it all makes much more sense. Thanks.
I was at my local Barnes and Noble yesterday. They didn’t have any books by Jack Vance and had one copy of one book by Phillip K Dick. I couldn’t believe it.
It's only ever Electric Sheep or maybe Man in the High Castle. I've been looking for Ubik for ages. I do most of my book shopping online now because you can hardly find anything worthwhile in stores.
I've had similar discussions with my very left leaning mother, the thing is the entire conversation is a step she isn't willing to take because she believes "men and woman have the same brain, think the same, enjoy the same thing, but men are born bigger and stronger so oppress the women who should be their equals" and no matter how easily provable that that's not true she will never listen because that's what she was taught and that's just reality for her now.
She's also a terf when it comes to trans stuff which I find hilarious considering her view on brains.
I'm the TE part of that with out the RF lol. Your mother must have been indoctrinated as a child, because there is no way she could believe this insanity without someone with snake oil to sell deliberately destroying her critical thinking and logic processing centers.
TERFs have no one to blame but themselves for the left radicalization of society THEY helped usher in. This happened because you put women in positions of power. This happened because you freed them from the "patriarchy" that was keeping them in check. This wouldn't have happened if they had just accepted their rightful place and role.
How did her divorce go down?
@@yurigagarine6998 She cheated on my father. Denies it to this day haha. Still got custody of us (me and 2 brothers) the courts are so fair!
I’m so sorry you grew up with a mother that apparently hates your gender.
Key problem, women in positions to hire or appoint people, almost universally hire other women. They have an in group preference, whereas men will hire whoever is best suited for the job.
I love that we're finally narrowing down the cause of the downfall of western fiction and entertainment on specifically liberal and white women. Even if there are other demographic groups involved, this group is ultimately the one behind this huge push towards a change for the worse, and the one that defines what all "allies" should think and feel about everything.
Yes. (((liberal))) (((white))) women.
Look no deeper than that. the surface is all there is. All these ideologies and ideas are created and funded by liberal white women. That's all. Nothing else.
Don't try and notice any cohincidences. There probably aren't any there at all.
I will warn tho, they might be white, but women of all colors have the capacity and resentment to F any and all institutions if led in by naive men.
It's not just western fiction, it's western civilization as a whole. This isn't only happening in books. It's happening in video games, movies, TV, TTRPGs, card games, and countless other hobbies and mediums of entertainment, and is intentional. The sooner people realize that, the sooner it can be countered and overcome... otherwise people will have actual problems to complain about when those pushing this finally get their collectivist dystopia.
Don't forget the fact that they're also sheltered urbanites and upper middle-class as well.
They aren't white, they are Jewish.
I can only speak for myself as a male writer, but I’m choosing to self publish.
Good luck to you! When literary agents started ignoring me, I decided to self-publish. That same book which no agent responded to won a first-place fiction award last year, the IPNE awards (local self-pub group in New England). This helped me realize that the old days of Maxwell Perkins are long gone... He gave us Hemingway and Fitzgerald, neither of whom would see the light of day now.
This is why I keep the fact that I read to myself, don’t need to deal with friends and family telling me it’s a girly thing.
0:26 Such 90's Progressivism was hardly 'badly needed'; it was rather the infant form of the monster we are dealing with today.
It was badly needed by female narcissists who weren't getting the attention they wanted. Kudos to them, because my god has it worked out in their favour. Supply for *days* out there.
Yup, the most commercially successful author of all time jk Rowling came up in the 90's pre the complete and final proliferation of progressive ideology.
1950s and 60s progressivism was what was needed. when ACTUAL societal issues like segregation and gay rights and actual oppression existed. 1990's and post progressivism was the embodiment of the phrase "rebel without a cause" and so the goalposts moved, and moved, and moved. now south park could be considered conservsative with how much its all changed
This disparity and female dominance is EVEN WORSE at the level of children’s literature; whether it’s books for ages 5-8 or ages 9-15 (before you start reaching YA-fiction age) there are almost ZERO male authors writing books for boys.
It’s entirely female authors writing books and graphic novels primarily for girls. Proper “Boys’ Literature” ceased with Gary Paulsen’s Hatchet series in the 80s/90s. No wonder reading has been a “girl’s activity” culturally for 30 years.
True! As a mum of two boys I'm happy I've kept most of the books that have inspired me as a child. My kids read Anthony Horrowitz, Roald Dahl, R.L. Stine, etc. Not all of those are great literature, but at least they are not condescending, belittling, preachy or boring. And my husband and I write our own stories and read those to them.
Was told by three separate literary agents my book was the best manuscript they'd ever read, but since there were 'too many male characters' and it felt 'male centered' it wouldn't sell. The people running the publishing industry are clowns.
The second Thomas Pynchon could already be here but even that's not enough for the ridiculous situation we're in now
Women writers were of a better standard under the patriarchy.
...Thaasands of 'em.
Because they actually had to write about something interesting, and had interesting things to read.
Men have always been the ones to set standards, when men aren't in charge there are no standards other than bias, so quality suffers all round.
@@rattusrattus761 Real mask off.
Reality is that most books were always trash, people think things used to be better because, rightly, the slop of that time that many still ate up is forgotten and not given attention to, and we just remember the greats.
It's not a gender thing.
@@PlattyGemsNah not true. Using reddit speak doesn't help your point. Truth is dei matters more than quality edditors but you refuse to acknowledge it because you support it.
@@PlattyGems Yet to find a trash book from the 1800s/early 1900s. If you find one let me know. As a collector of second-hand books and obscure ones at that, they've all been of a higher standard than the slop served up by middle-aged wine mums with no particular life experience to mark them apart or give them any great insight and wisdom beyond any other regular joe. They don't write about life; they write in a genre they know sells and copy others.
I see it every month with Amazon. As a Prime member, I'm "given" one book for free from a set list. Without fail, every month there is a "Women's Literature" or other genre listed with the word woman in the title. And yet, even a stereotypical male genre like science fiction is only offered a handful of months throughout the year. Then again, even if I do find a male author, oh no - he has to write his main character as a "strong female lead" cause can't have a male protagonist either!
By the way, if these finalists are all female, might be time to use the left-wing's favorite tactic and sue over "perceived bias" and actions that "disproportionately affect" men.
I am also a Prime member, and the selection of "free" books is abysmal and obviously geared toward women
I loved reading as a child and still do to this day so here's a little story.
Schools in our country have these really long lists of books (had to have been at least 50) that you can read and then discuss with a teacher (and other students doing the list) to prove you read them. Read enough (like 10 or something, don't remember) and you get a mark of completion of sorts. I got the mark 8 out of 9 years of my primary school and the reason I didn't finish the 9th one and barely finished the 8th was because each conservative year there would be fewer and fewer books that actually had compelling titles or descriptions. I'd always read through the older stuff, but inevitably hit a wall of female dominated new age works. I'm sorry but 14 yo me was not about to check out a book about women's puberty, coming of age and gushing romances if I don't have to, so I abandoned the list and started reading my own stuff, fiction and adventure novels mostly. Many of my classmates stopped reading all together by then.
I was one of two boys left doing these reading lists by the end, with about 15 girls from what I remember.
You could call it: The Krazy Karen Klub
What have we learned gentleman? Gatekeep what you love if you want to keep it unmolested by progressive ideology
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While I agree that content creators must practice quality control and criticism, gatekeeping is not the way to go. Gatekeeping is how cultures and belief systems die out.
There are tons of liberal themes in sci fi starting from inception.
@@dungquoc8552Pretty sure it’s the complete opposite. How can a culture or belief system survive without strict gatekeeping? You could say that the only cultures or religions that have EVER survived are the ones who have gate kept religiously to maintain their beliefs against decay. Your body can’t survive without an immune system gate keeping bad bacteria and infection away, culture is no different. You’re just repeating liberal platitudes without thinking.
Without gates, whatever system you have will obviously be beset by barbarians, it’s common sense. To argue against gates is so insane looking at the history of all of mankind. To say gatekeeping is bad is to say that everything you love doesn’t deserve to be protected, but instead should be pillaged. It’s completely misanthropic, and suicidal, and you’re only repeating that because you’ve been fed diatribes about the contrary by people who actively state that they want your culture replaced.
@@dungquoc8552 I sure hope youre right. Men are being gatekept from culture. When do you reckon leftism will die out?
Great article. Two things come to mind when I was listening to this. The first was that this mirrors my exact experience in walking 'new' book stores like Barnes & Nobles (in North America). Almost all of the books I see there are written y women for women and I almost always end up leaving without making a single purchase. I then go to my favorite second hand book stores to find books that are interesting to me. The second thing that comes to mind was the downfall of the talented fiction writer David Gemmell. He started off writing incredibly interesting things and quickly became y favorite (living) author. Then, as I understand it, he became sick and his wife started 'finishing' his books under his penname. Yep, she sure did' finish' his books. They quickly devolved into tripe and I stopped reading his works. Such a massive shame and loss to all readers everywhere. Thanks for taking the time to make and share this video.
This is a microcosm of what men are facing in society. We created structures that advantaged women in order to try deal with sexism and give them a fair deal but instead of dismantling said structures once women reached parity we kept them in place and what do you know we've created the same problem but in reverse.
As soon as the amount of them in an office reaches 50% they start pushing men out until its only them left and then the company goes bust.
I usually see the canary in the coalmine and switch jobs as soon as the company announces a strategy that prioritizes hiring more wmn.
I already pay 60% of my income in taxes, I dont want to subsidize their lifestyle even more. They can work for it themselves.
Jane Austen these are not.
Jane Austen fans have ruined Jane Austen for me. Some how a conservative daughter of a minister is a leftist and liberal activists.
Concepts that didn't exist
@@somethingclever8916 Austen fans can be the worst. They tend to be very nice if you wholly agree with their viewpoints on the books, if you think Mr. Darcy is great and Edmund Bertram sucks, they'll support you. But try being a pro-Bertram girl on there? Hell, just try telling them you love Mansfield Park but hate the Crawfords and watch them foam at the mouth.
Also, look, I like Pride and Prejudice... A lot. But if I see one more shitty "variation" on that get published I'll bloody scream. Except for Lydia Bennet, Witch of course... That one actually sounds kinda good. I may have to read that one.
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I was an indy author who released six novels over three years with KDP, but my most successful one got shadowbanned. The reviews were removed. The sales dried up overnight. It went from top 100 to zero sales in a month. I fought with Amazon with no results. I became disillusioned and eventually gave up. My seventh novel remains unfinished, and it will likely stay that way. I wonder what might have been sometimes, but I didn't need the stress and drama of fighting to be heard.
Omg! I was literally telling my friend that it feels like I haven't read a great book in years and thanks to this video, I finally understand why. It's a bit like TV. Nothing feels universal anymore 😞
USA breakdown of students in higher education: 60:40 in favor of women (I think this figure applies to both undergraduate degrees and graduate). When figures were skewed towards men (but not by this degree) in the 1970's it was seen as a massive injustice.
When I write a story set in the colonial times in Korea but the characters are only Korean
Book publishers: 😠 no diversity
(Korea is literally homogeneous)
Female dominance in the military and law enforcement is as equally absurd.
something like 95% of fantasy releases are targeted for women. Multiple hot male love interests, usually very abrasive and rude female lead. Reverse Harems are common as shit yet regular harems are seen as degenerate. Honestly it's impossible to find something good to read.
To get published as a male in today's market, you need to have multiple PhD's or have a large social media platform established. Out there right now is the next Dune or GOT in some wino feminist agent's slush pile who instead is looking for an LGBT minority writer with no talent, because that's the game right now. Making things worse is those talentless writers actually use the whole (I'm a minority LGBT whatever as the main selling point in their agent query letters instead of their novel's plot.)
I thought i was the only who noticed how lopsided and souless the writing industry has become. 99% of it is hot garbage