@@criefride07 matagal na akong nanunuod kay Kau...I never label myself his Ninja..... If example 1+1+1=1 parin Hindi ba false yan? Sa Genesis....gumawa ng Sun at saka Moon tapos in one thought gumawa ng mga Stars.... Di ba ang Sun ,star din siya? Nasa loob ng atmosphere ang sun ,moon at mga stars at umiikot sa earth... Di ba false yon Kasi Ang earth ang siyang umiikot sa Sun at nasa labas ang Sun Hindi pareho ang nga timeline ng mga araw,mga planeta at mga buwan at bituin...
It does, PRINCIPLE OF NON CONTRADICTION (contradiction cannot be both true and false at the same time) judas death in acts and mattew contradicts, then one must be true and one must be false, since bible is inspired by God there must be no wrong information in the bible but there is cause there must be one wrong between acts and mattew's, just proves bible is false @@criefride07
@@gardenlover23 validate your equation "1+1+1 = 1" in these non-classical frameworks (Modular arithmetic with modulus 2. Tropical arithmetic.Boolean algebra.) then come back to me, I will wait... Antayin ko ah...
3:04 Opening statement Illu 18:49 Cross opening by KAU 29:08 Opening KAU 35:17 Cross opening by Illu 45:56 Closing Illu 49:04 Closing KAU My video playlist si Inspiring Philosophy about "Bible contradiction" mostly na tackle yung mga nsa opening statement ni Illu example. -bakit iba yung genealogy yung isa kay Mary yung isa ky Joseph nmn yung sinundan. -Book of Matthew doesn't mean si Matthew ang author, possible si Mark pero hindi nmn issue kung anonymous yung author sa ancient literature. -Book of Mark na added verses about ky Magdalene, hindi nmn yun tinatago nakalgy nga mismo yun as added verses kc nga yun yung pinaguusapan that time. -Comma Johanneum about sa 1John 5 Trinity e hindi nmn KJV ang first Bible normal nmn yun sa transliteration.
Galing! Yes. hindi mo nasagot yung mga questions ni ILU kasi hindi ka naman bible scholar...Pero you defended it well using logic! I'm sure hindi ito yung inaasahang resulta ni ILU sa debate kasi although naglatag sya ng problem sa bible na logical naman at kinder grade! hindi naman pala nya alam na may ibat ibang system sa logic na dapat pang I consider para masabing false ang bible.. o ayaw lang talaga nyang I consider yun kasi magiging "contradiction" sa paniniwala nya..
Sa cross pa lang ni kau nagsabi na siya na merong mga ibang scholar na ganito sinasabi,at meron mga scholar na ganito naman ang sinasabi..bakit nagside si ilu sa mga scholar na nagsasabi about sa “contradiction”kuno ng bible at hindi sinabi ung mga point ng mga scholar na nagsasabing walang contradiction sa bible…KASI BIAS SI ILU…gusto niya lang magside sa kung ano yung papabor sa kanyang biases. Samantalang si kau wala siyang scholar na papanigan dahil gusto niya isalang lahat ng argument base sa logic! Kaya nga sabi ni kau “cge grant ko lahat ng argument mo is true…then anong problema sa contradiction? Contradiction doesnt prove that it is false.” Very beautiful argument
kung ibabase ntn real logic sa argument nila agree ako kay sir KAU. parang kung may aksidente at ininterview dalawang tao at magkaiba statement nila pero nandun yung truth na may aksidente talaga its just different angle lang nakita nila so ganun tyo sa bible magkaiba man statement nila but that doesnt change na may tunay na nangyari. sabi nga ni sir KAU its contradicting but doesnt mean its false.
Yess.. thats why yung mga appeal sa authority fallacies na arguments ni sir Ilu nung una na "sabi ni ganto..." ekis kaagad. Kasi there are other people who can say otherwise. ❤
Atheist din ako kahit pa may Christ sa pangalan ko.😅 Mostly nasa 8-15 mins lang ako nakikinig pag related sa religion/bible ang topic or debate mo boss pero ito ang unang beses na habang nakikinig ako diko na malayan na mag iisang oras ko na pala kayong pinakikinggan tas nakulangan pa ako dahil parang 15mins lang debate nyo kasi swabe lang takbo ng debate nyo, walang bardagulan at walang tumataas na boses kahit magkaiba kayo ng paniniwala. Kudos sa inyong tatlo🫡
What a nice and smooth debate from Sir KAU and ILU. I just noticed that in debates like these, although Sir KAU is on the negative side and considering the inaccuracies and contradictions pointed out by ILU, he also pushed himself to study the Bible, even though his perspective is to prove that it is not reliable. I guess one of God's intentions is for us to study His word, as encouraged by the Bible ( which applies to both believers and not believers) And if he says that he did not literally study the Bible according to his own observations and that his views are only based on past studies by various scholars with differing perspectives, then I guess we cannot really say that these are inaccuracies or contradictions of the Bible itself but rather that it might be a case of misinterpretation.
Pervasive problem ni ilu sa lahat ng pinagsasabi niya is "context ignorance" at literary devices. Ilu wants the bible to fit in his reasoning but this is academically irresponsible. The "upgrade version" part of the opening statement is ILU's affirmation of KAUs position. Inoppose niya yung sarili niyang position.
Dun pa lang sa hnd siya bias pero yung iba na hnd nag aagree sa kanya ay bias sobrang illogical na eh. You can't prove they are bias and you as well so you cant use that as an argument. Ngaun if contradiction lang ang argument mo to say its false, napakababaw ng argument mo and it doesn't hold ground. Just for the very fact na yung classical logic mo has a paradox problem bakit mo pinipilit. Hnd ba dapat dun ka maggrounding sa version na walang problema? Sa cross pa lang nasunog na lahat ng argument niya and he doesn't see it.
Lahat nung contradictions na binanggit ni Ilu, nasagot na ni Inspiringphilosopy, check nio, huminto yung araw, Noah's flood, creation order, marks concensus,plagarism, unknown authors, wala bang bagong arguments?
@@mariembuenaventura1278 buti pa si mythvision at paulogia, kahit papano may mga bagong arguments, kala kasi nila ngayon lang natin narinig yang mga yan, ten years ago na yang mga yan upgrade-upgrade din, tapos si richard carrier pa source, even kapwa nya scholars di sya respected
Pero kudos to sir Kau, kung iisa isahin kasi nya lahat nung contradictions baka abutin ng ilang oras, ganda nung ginawa nya, binutas nya yung assumptions ni ilu kaya di nya magamit, galing
May typology talaga sa bible at ganyan magbasa ang catholic church. Sabi nga ni St. Augustine, The new is concealed in the old and the old is revealed in the new. Kaya wag magtaka na si Hesus ang bagong Moses sa new testament, bagong Adan, etc.
Old Testament is God forecasts what he will do in the future who the Messiah will be and what he will do. The New Testament records the fulfillment of these promises and prophecies. it's always directed to Jesus Christ. The WORD of God is not corrupted our sinful mind is. If you don't believe in GOD no need for you to debate about it.
May Paliwanag ba ang Science sa Spirito or Multo ako hindi pa nakakita Pero sa Dami nakakita or naka Expirience anu ba paliwanag ng isang atheist at science dun.. sana masagot..
KAU next time if mag debate sana naka oncam to make sure na walang kodigo para kasing the way he talks eh my binabasa sya kasi ang bilis ang tuloy tuloy wala man lang pause pwedeng planado nya na ang pagakyat dito tapos pinag-aralan nya na ang sasabihin or my binabasa sya sa harapan nya offcam kasi eh kaya di natin makita sa susunod sana mapagbigyan good job padin mas okay to panuorin kay sa sa the Revealers.
@@Iori-c7m Bihasa na siya kahit sa Numbers... articles and etc. Even there are many questions...we Atheist never jump up to conclusion na... therefore "There is God ".... We appreciate more on Science
@@Iori-c7minteresting yung oncam nga naman... tho i think hindi naka kodigo yung Ilu as planned porket rapid fire sya nung first round, i think kabisado nya na yun lahat tas nirecite nya lang basta. kasi marami siyang points nung round 1 na hindi naman pasok sa topic; contradiction sa bible yung point ng debate nila pero marami syang sinabi na nag dwell sa scientific inaccuracy instead. naisama nya lang siguro kasi muscle memory yung gumana. i hope rin talaga oncam, for me yun ang icing on top nitong debate kasi gusto ko sila makita rin.❤
@@malikmatatv.1476 not just me. Other scholars as well refute him. Why? He is a Jesus mythic which means he doesn't believe Jesus existed at all. Even Bart Ehrman who is an agnostic doesn't believe in that thesis.
My take is the Bible naman talaga is never written scientifically. So im not sure why ILU is hammering the fact na hindi siya scientifically accurate. I guess ang contention niya talaga is the literal or the fundamentalist approach of reading the scriptures.
Hindi nga sya scientific book. Kaya sceintifically inaccurate. May mga christians na naglalatag ng scientific argument like genesis 1:1 talks about the bigbang, or the bible talks about the earth being spherical. I think you should know that bago ka kumuda 🙄
Umm yes there are Christians that are saying that the Big Bang is related to Genesis kase creation ex nihilio which George's Lamaitra also said that pero hanggang dun lang un. Other than that Christians who will claim na it's all scientific in nature ung genesis 1 is incorrect. Kase like Dr Heiser and Dr Walton OT scholars of ancient Hebrew that's not the purpose of Genesis 1. I think your contest is about the Fundamentalist approach when it comes to interpreting scriptures.
some are thinking that the bible is not Scientific because it contradicts what science THEORIES says, they forgot that the they should rely og Facts of science but not on theories..
parang mali ata para sakin ang punto nio, kc kung Dios talaga sumulat o ipinasulat niya sa mga tagasunod niya ang bible eh dpt nakaayon dpt siya sa sensya, kc papano magagawa ng Dios ang sanlibutan kung wala syang alam sa siensya? o kung Dios sya dapat mula sa kanya ang lahat ng kaalaman dba? mukhang mahina lang si kaiu dto olats sya hahha@@sensei_Ilu
Paano nalaman ni Noah na babae at lalaki ...na pair sila? Pati ba dinosaur nakasakay don't n ba doon sa barko....? May malaking aquarium ba si Noah sa barko....Kasi animals din sila na dapat isakay sa barko No eat, no sick,no shit ba sila doon...? Pinili si Noah at pamilya nya Kasi nga Special siya....pero lasing at hubot hubad doon sa bible Yong hindi pa isinilang...wala pang ginagawa, alam na ni God na masama siya.... Pinatay lahat...ang bait talaga ni God noh!
7:40 yung argument niya na walang pamagat ang mga verse sa bible is plain stupid. By the bible verses itself, yun na mismo ang title ng ñibro like Mathew, Revelation and etc.... Thats so stupid na iargue niya na balit walang pamagat ang bible, dahil dito hindi ito totoo. 7:59 another stupid argument yung part na third person. Ako as a writer itself, hindi po ganun kahalaga kung anong POV mp isusulat yung events kahit na naka third person or first person yan, ang mahalaga naisulat mo ang paragraph kung saan ka komportable bilang author. Thats the most stupid argument he did here. Ang importante yung message ng story at events regardless kung anong klaseng POV pa yan 🤦♂️
@@sensei_Ilu Kapag nakasulat sa third person, ibig sabihin, hindi sya ang nagsulat. the author is not a direct eyewitness -->Nope. hindi porke third person perspective ang pag sulat ay hindi na siya ang nag sulat. The Author is not a direct eyewitness --> Hindi rin porke 3rd person narration ang pag kakasulat ay hindi na siya ang direct witness. --> Depende sa writer kung ano trip nyang pag sulat.
@@sensei_Ilu Nalito din ako dito bakit pumasok sa list of contradictions yung title and authors ng Bible as contradictions? Mismo si Apostle Paul with the Book of Romans sa dulo ng book pumasok si Tertius, does that mean pumasok siya sa standard mo? Its good also if you can consider how the ancient literature work hindi siya katulad satin na pag naisipan mong mag sulat e pwede kagad kung ayaw mo e dapat reject mo din mostly ng ancient literature.
There’s no such thing as science, only scientists that come up with theories. Science is not everything. Marami pang bagay na hindi maipaliwag ng mga scientists. Lastly, hindi naman kaya ituro ng science ang morality at ethics, yan ang mostly tinuro ni jesus.
Di marunong mag cross examine yung kadebate ni KAU .. dapat stick lng sa sinabi ni kau yung dapat itanong .. o kaya gawa xa ng paraan para mpunta sa gusto nyang mnagyari ..
Tama si KAU about reconciliation. If you read the bible objectively and understanding the actual story, there will be no contradiction. They may be expressed in a different way but the story is still the same. Sa tanong about Judas in Acts and Matthew, Matthew said Judas threw away the 30 pcs of silver kasi ayaw tanggapin ng mga Chief priests nung sinosoli nya after that he left and hang himself. Meanwhile the Chief Priest used the 30 silver coins and bought a land later called Field of Blood. In acts, Peter's story did not contradict Matthew's, when he said that Judas bought a field where he fell headlong, he means to say that the payment used to buy the field is Judas's because the Chief Priest did not accept the silver coins when Judas returned it to them but they simply used it. Peter may not knew the story about the Chief Priests action but he knew that the Field was bought using the payment to Judas wickedness. He fell headlong and his body burst open and intestines fell out. Peter knew that Judas fell, which in Matthew compliments about Judas hanging himself. Most likely Judas fell when his body is decomposing, possible the branch broke. Acts 1:15-19 Matthew 27:3-10
Ang Bible kasi nasalin sa madaming translations at languages, “Ang Biblia” at “King James” version lang yung halos pinaka malapit sa original manuscript. God don’t contradicts himself hindi lahat ng nakasulat sa Biblia eh literal. Please reference this. th-cam.com/video/5hMli52NFXM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Lx4dxypoGoxzyXFC
isang tanong ko din unang tao sina adan at eva..at anak nila si cain at abel, nung pinatay ni cain si abel pinalayas sya sa paraiso di ba? tapos sabi din dun sa bible nakapag asawa si cain..so ibig ba sabihin bukod sa kanila may ibang tao pa?
@@Malasakit0720 ... marami raw anak na babae sina Adan at Eva hindi lng nasulat sa libro... May babae na sa Genesis 1(pareho sila ginawa kawangis sa kanya)....at si Eva nman ang nasa Genesis 2 na kinuha galing kay Adan.....
nag focus sa lineage po ni Abel and Cain pero madami pa silang kapatid which at that time possible pa ang inc*st. Isang interpretation for "old earth creationist" hindi sila Adam and Eve ang technically unang human pero first human in a sense of susundan yung story or pinili ng Lord , like how Israel was chosen.
Putek sa Liar Paradox kaya sya na brought up dahil sa contradiction maniniwala ka ba sa Liar Telling he is a lying? is he telling the truth or not? self-referential.
parang rapid fire nga sya nung first round. kumbaga parang rapper na dirediretso magsabi ng lyrics by muscle memory. i think dun din sya nagkamali. kasi karamihan ng point nya is about "inaccuracy" ng bible, e ang topic na inagreehan nila e contradiction. nasama nya siguro kasi yun pagka kabisado nya. 😔
Titanic Analogy Eyewitness 1: buong lumubog yung titanic Eyewitness 2: nahati sa gitna yung titanic tapos lumubog Christians: its either buong lumubog or nahati sa gitna yung titanic Atheist: dahil may contradiction sa account, its eitheir hindi lumubog yung titanic or titanic is a myth, titanic didnt exist
mukhang hindi sinagot ang contradictions na nilabas ng athiest . kung naniniwala kang HOLY ang libro mo dapat ZERO contradiction ito . kung hindi mo kayang ipaliwanag ang mga contradictions ay dapat hindi ka nakikipagdebate . anyway kahit hindi na ako christian ay madali lang sagutin ang contradiction daw na alin ang nauna tao o halaman . pero ang iba malabong masasagot
@@IGLESIANIMANALO1914 Mali, ikaw yung immoral at puro scientific error. Isipin mo, Kamatis may basehan ng immoral? at Science? HIndi nyo nga ma defend ang LOGIC eh. hahahaha
hmm? "Bible is False" parang may mali sa title kasi Bible is compilation ng mga books so kapag sinabing Bible meaning all verse sa Bible is False at Contradictions? Correct me if I am wrong sa pagkakaintindi ko. Then kung ganun nga at tama pagkakaintindi ko, pwede siya I considered as scientific book. Hindi pure science book but atleast makukuhanan ng evidence na pwedeng supportahan ng science. Example Job 36:27 "Ang tubig sa lupa'y itinataas ng Diyos, upang gawing ulan at sa daigdig ay ibuhos" Katumbas sa science "Evaporation, Condensation at Precipitation" correct order pa.
Hindi naman porket mahirap unawain yung ibang verse meaning contradicting na. May naka sulat na literal at metaphorical diyaan. Kaya how can you prove na the bible is false at many contradictions kung meron siyang nababanggit na facts na kaya din supportahan ng science?
Atheist searching for answers while kamatis speaks gibberish to sound intellegent with no rebutal. Walang kwenta debate... Parehas lang yung sa tanong prutas ba ang apple? Kamatis be like apple is made of water with a dose of protein and fat and because of that apple is born through the soil with magnesium and shit.. .😅😅😅😂😂
@@KaMAtisAnalysisUnitI'm suggesting a gateway for at least decent debates to watch from people of both worlds. Kung may kalidad ka magbasa, nakita mo sana yung sinabi ko na, "...marami pang related." I was assuming na if ever in this speck-of-a-dust corner ng cringe Pinoy TH-cam ay mabasa nang kung sino na talagang interesado these common, entry level names, and maybe pag-aralan pa nang mas malalim yung ganitong usapin. Kasi nga, nakakaantok at sabog-sabog talaga tong video na to. Anywho, paghahabol sa hangin.
Oo nga.... genesis1 pa nga lang ....sa creation.... Kung i.drawing mo siya mas maiitindihan nyan... kontra sa Science...nauna ang halaman bago ang araw....hay nako, pati pag bilang ng days mali din don Let be light!...tapos gumawa ulit ng light ..😅... Nakakatalino ang pagbabasa ng bibliya kaya....tinapon ko
Hindi mo na gets Dinala ni KAU sa realm ng Logic ang usapan to determine kung pano nag dederive si ILU kaso dun na exposed si ILU na classical logic lang tinatanggap niya naging Tutorial tuloy LOGIC 101 class.
kahit grant mo ng my "contradictions" sa Bible need mo padin ma prove na false yun or unreliable. For example, sa news X sinabi na 5 ang nmty isa ang nakaligtas pero sa news Y sinabi na lima ang nalunod, contradiction kya yun? Ito sir magandang ma prove Corinthians 15:14-20 ... if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain. Pag naka hanap ka ng literature na sinabing natabi nila mismo yung bangkay ni Jesus game over na. You can try to read or search videos by Dr. Gary Habermas.
kaya ako naging atheist e dahil apaka dami ng contradiction sa bible tapos anonymous pa nagsulat puro pa fairytales na kesyo naglakad sa tubig si jesus at may nagsalita na ahas haha kung may logic ka maniniwala kaba sa mga story na yan😂😂@@criefride07
@@katrinacinco hahaha kaya mo Yan ganyan din ako dati Militant Atheist eh lahat Ng inconsistency contradiction and even deaths may notes ako, pero dati Yun simula naging follower ako ni Atty L. And KAU Dito naiba Yung views ko, Laws and Logic na Tame Yung pagiging Atheist ko, Weird lang sa Atheist laging God topic natin 🤣🤣 PS protected Ng Laws natin Ang any Religious practices ingat ka lang sa pag mock
Ang Bible ay hindi scientific book pero may indications na tama ang Bible pagdating sa iba pang issue concerning sa science. Ironically para kay Prof Ilu, dyan pa lang sa arguments nya, purong assumption na walang basis. I think I will make reaction video concerning Prof Ilu's silly arguments against the reliability of the Bible in Tiktok live stream.
Hindi nga sya scientific book. Kaya sceintifically inaccurate. May mga christians na naglalatag ng scientific argument like genesis 1:1 talks about the bigbang, or the bible talks about the earth being spherical. I think you should know that bago ka kumuda 🙄
Eh sayo na mismo nang galing na hndi sya science book, so why do you take it as scientific fact? Of course it’s not. It’s biblically correct. Yun yung point ng argument nyo na hndi mo maintindihan.
@@Daryyyll ang problema sa claim mo, dahil lang sa sinabi ko na hindi scientific book ang Bible, nag assume ka na hindi totoo ang Bible. You're not reading my entire comment here. Uulitin ko, Daryyll. Hindi man scientific book ang Bibliya, may mga indikasyon sa Bibliya na napatunayang totoolalo na sa modern science katulad ng simula ng universe at law of entropy. Again, nag assume ka na naman. Hehe
@@sirroelsblog3415 Bakit itatake ni Ilu as science fact ang bible whereas ndi naman talaga sya science book in the first place. So scientifically speaking yes it is false. But biblically correct.
so in short nanalo si PROF ILU sa debate ? kasi hindi napatunayan na ang Bible ay walang false contradiction ?? hindi po ako hater ni KAU ah just stating my opinion hehe.
@johncarloflorentino God is the true contradiction, As a chrisitian, that logic is enough for me to believe sa teachings ng Bible... Ilu on the other hand, can't also prove that the Bible is False just because there's contradiction. So nasa tao na yan kung kanino maniniwala..at kung sinu panala pra sa knla..
@@abb.3788yup. Also I think ang may issue si ILU is dun sa literal or fundamentalist approach in interpreting scriptures. Kase his criticisms are mostly elementary at best eh kung un talaga pang hahawakan niya ha.
@@abb.3788 ah na-watch ko naman na po kasi tinatanong ni KAU si prof ILU kung therefore false ang Bible nag sabi naman sya ng YES and infact nagbigay naman ng instance or sample si prof ILU kung ano yung mga contradictions sa Bible which is hindi nman nasagot ni KAU kung totoo yun or hindi. ang summary kasi ng debate I think is kung totoo ba ang Bible ay may contradiction or wala. so it seems \ na meron ngaa talaga based dito sa debate. Tingin ko ang bagay na kadebate ni prof ILU dito is yung maalam talaga or nag aral sa theology yung kayang mag explain ng context ng bawat scripture na pinag kokompare nya
thats the point... sabihin na nating granted na may "contradiction," does that mean na hindi na totoo yung libro? sorry bro pero kung ayaw mo sa logic, e baka hindi para sayo ang debate kasi kailangan talaga ng logic sa mga bagay bagay.
Atheist here
Genesis 1 palang ang daming contradictions...
Athiest here or should I say KAU's Ninja now, also saying that Contradiction does not directly prove that it is false.
@@criefride07 matagal na akong nanunuod kay Kau...I never label myself his Ninja.....
If example
1+1+1=1 parin
Hindi ba false yan?
Sa Genesis....gumawa ng Sun at saka Moon tapos in one thought gumawa ng mga Stars....
Di ba ang Sun ,star din siya?
Nasa loob ng atmosphere ang sun ,moon at mga stars at umiikot sa earth...
Di ba false yon Kasi Ang earth ang siyang umiikot sa Sun at nasa labas ang Sun
Hindi pareho ang nga timeline ng mga araw,mga planeta at mga buwan at bituin...
It does, PRINCIPLE OF NON CONTRADICTION (contradiction cannot be both true and false at the same time) judas death in acts and mattew contradicts, then one must be true and one must be false, since bible is inspired by God there must be no wrong information in the bible but there is cause there must be one wrong between acts and mattew's, just proves bible is false @@criefride07
@@ZERO-yy1yb And KAU said, they RECONCILE the said contradictions.
example: Judas may have hanged himself, and his body later fell and burst open.
@@gardenlover23 validate your equation "1+1+1 = 1" in these non-classical frameworks (Modular arithmetic with modulus 2.
Tropical arithmetic.Boolean algebra.) then come back to me, I will wait... Antayin ko ah...
3:04 Opening statement Illu
18:49 Cross opening by KAU
29:08 Opening KAU
35:17 Cross opening by Illu
45:56 Closing Illu
49:04 Closing KAU
My video playlist si Inspiring Philosophy about "Bible contradiction" mostly na tackle yung mga nsa opening statement ni Illu example.
-bakit iba yung genealogy yung isa kay Mary yung isa ky Joseph nmn yung sinundan.
-Book of Matthew doesn't mean si Matthew ang author, possible si Mark pero hindi nmn issue kung anonymous yung author sa ancient literature.
-Book of Mark na added verses about ky Magdalene, hindi nmn yun tinatago nakalgy nga mismo yun as added verses kc nga yun yung pinaguusapan that time.
-Comma Johanneum about sa 1John 5 Trinity e hindi nmn KJV ang first Bible normal nmn yun sa transliteration.
Science always leads to Timeless , Spaceless, and Immaterial Being. Glory to God
Galing! Yes. hindi mo nasagot yung mga questions ni ILU kasi hindi ka naman bible scholar...Pero you defended it well using logic! I'm sure hindi ito yung inaasahang resulta ni ILU sa debate kasi although naglatag sya ng problem sa bible na logical naman at kinder grade! hindi naman pala nya alam na may ibat ibang system sa logic na dapat pang I consider para masabing false ang bible.. o ayaw lang talaga nyang I consider yun kasi magiging "contradiction" sa paniniwala nya..
Sa cross pa lang ni kau nagsabi na siya na merong mga ibang scholar na ganito sinasabi,at meron mga scholar na ganito naman ang sinasabi..bakit nagside si ilu sa mga scholar na nagsasabi about sa “contradiction”kuno ng bible at hindi sinabi ung mga point ng mga scholar na nagsasabing walang contradiction sa bible…KASI BIAS SI ILU…gusto niya lang magside sa kung ano yung papabor sa kanyang biases.
Samantalang si kau wala siyang scholar na papanigan dahil gusto niya isalang lahat ng argument base sa logic! Kaya nga sabi ni kau “cge grant ko lahat ng argument mo is true…then anong problema sa contradiction? Contradiction doesnt prove that it is false.” Very beautiful argument
contradiction does prove it is false. Cannot be trusted. Unreliable.
kung ibabase ntn real logic sa argument nila agree ako kay sir KAU. parang kung may aksidente at ininterview dalawang tao at magkaiba statement nila pero nandun yung truth na may aksidente talaga its just different angle lang nakita nila so ganun tyo sa bible magkaiba man statement nila but that doesnt change na may tunay na nangyari. sabi nga ni sir KAU its contradicting but doesnt mean its false.
dapat pala di ko binasa itong comment na ito... this is the first time na nainis ako sa spoiler. hehe
Yess.. thats why yung mga appeal sa authority fallacies na arguments ni sir Ilu nung una na "sabi ni ganto..." ekis kaagad. Kasi there are other people who can say otherwise. ❤
Atheist din ako kahit pa may Christ sa pangalan ko.😅 Mostly nasa 8-15 mins lang ako nakikinig pag related sa religion/bible ang topic or debate mo boss pero ito ang unang beses na habang nakikinig ako diko na malayan na mag iisang oras ko na pala kayong pinakikinggan tas nakulangan pa ako dahil parang 15mins lang debate nyo kasi swabe lang takbo ng debate nyo, walang bardagulan at walang tumataas na boses kahit magkaiba kayo ng paniniwala. Kudos sa inyong tatlo🫡
Maria din name ko....
Yes👍 very cordial at marespeto ang debate!!! Sana ganun lahat🤗
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What a nice and smooth debate from Sir KAU and ILU. I just noticed that in debates like these, although Sir KAU is on the negative side and considering the inaccuracies and contradictions pointed out by ILU, he also pushed himself to study the Bible, even though his perspective is to prove that it is not reliable. I guess one of God's intentions is for us to study His word, as encouraged by the Bible ( which applies to both believers and not believers) And if he says that he did not literally study the Bible according to his own observations and that his views are only based on past studies by various scholars with differing perspectives, then I guess we cannot really say that these are inaccuracies or contradictions of the Bible itself but rather that it might be a case of misinterpretation.
Lupet ng mga arguments ni coach kau…cross pa lang laglag na!
Hahaha di marunong mag formal debate pala yang si Ilu. Lahat ng tanong ang labas sa opening statement 🤣
Just because you dont believe doesnt mean it’s not true.
Also it can be other way around.
Siyet, ganito dapat ang debate.. hindi yung malabasahan na banat lang ng banat style ni Melo.
Bat kasi umaaasa kang magbibigay ng matinong argument yan eh adik nga lang yan haha
Pervasive problem ni ilu sa lahat ng pinagsasabi niya is "context ignorance" at literary devices.
Ilu wants the bible to fit in his reasoning but this is academically irresponsible.
The "upgrade version" part of the opening statement is ILU's affirmation of KAUs position. Inoppose niya yung sarili niyang position.
Dun pa lang sa hnd siya bias pero yung iba na hnd nag aagree sa kanya ay bias sobrang illogical na eh. You can't prove they are bias and you as well so you cant use that as an argument. Ngaun if contradiction lang ang argument mo to say its false, napakababaw ng argument mo and it doesn't hold ground. Just for the very fact na yung classical logic mo has a paradox problem bakit mo pinipilit. Hnd ba dapat dun ka maggrounding sa version na walang problema? Sa cross pa lang nasunog na lahat ng argument niya and he doesn't see it.
bonak ilu shempre di sila iisang tao, what they have is different undertsanding and perspective, 44:16
KAU debunked mo lahat ng Atheist maging sa biblical at scientifically
Ang lakas Ng tawa ko kay ilu , cross examine palang laglag na hahaha😂
Lahat nung contradictions na binanggit ni Ilu, nasagot na ni Inspiringphilosopy, check nio, huminto yung araw, Noah's flood, creation order, marks concensus,plagarism, unknown authors, wala bang bagong arguments?
Napaghahalata yung age natin, akala ko din my bago e... same same padin.
@@mariembuenaventura1278 buti pa si mythvision at paulogia, kahit papano may mga bagong arguments, kala kasi nila ngayon lang natin narinig yang mga yan, ten years ago na yang mga yan upgrade-upgrade din, tapos si richard carrier pa source, even kapwa nya scholars di sya respected
Pero kudos to sir Kau, kung iisa isahin kasi nya lahat nung contradictions baka abutin ng ilang oras, ganda nung ginawa nya, binutas nya yung assumptions ni ilu kaya di nya magamit, galing
thank you sa recommendation bro. check ko rin mga yan
May typology talaga sa bible at ganyan magbasa ang catholic church. Sabi nga ni St. Augustine, The new is concealed in the old and the old is revealed in the new. Kaya wag magtaka na si Hesus ang bagong Moses sa new testament, bagong Adan, etc.
its not about our understanding its about what is written
Ganda ng debate Congrats sa mga participant
Sana kayo ni melobeks ganyan rin makipagdebate ano? Kaso wala eh😅
Old Testament is God forecasts what he will do in the future who the Messiah will be and what he will do. The New Testament records the fulfillment of these promises and prophecies. it's always directed to Jesus Christ. The WORD of God is not corrupted our sinful mind is. If you don't believe in GOD no need for you to debate about it.
Kung nabubuhay lang sana si Brother Eli Soriano...
Kapatid?
Tapos na Ang laban kung SI BES ang ka debate..
tamaaaa
di ko pa narinig lumaban ng logic si BES.
@@brigidojoseestrada7773 Laging biblical, madaming innaccuracies din si BES pag gumagamit ng scientific methodology
Naniniwala ako na may gods piro Cno sa kanila Ang mas kapangyarihan, kac daming gods sa ibat ibang mga relegion,
May Paliwanag ba ang Science sa Spirito or Multo ako hindi pa nakakita Pero sa Dami nakakita or naka Expirience anu ba paliwanag ng isang atheist at science dun.. sana masagot..
Nice One Lods Ilu,
KAU Nice Two ✌️
KAU next time if mag debate sana naka oncam to make sure na walang kodigo para kasing the way he talks eh my binabasa sya kasi ang bilis ang tuloy tuloy wala man lang pause pwedeng planado nya na ang pagakyat dito tapos pinag-aralan nya na ang sasabihin or my binabasa sya sa harapan nya offcam kasi eh kaya di natin makita sa susunod sana mapagbigyan good job padin mas okay to panuorin kay sa sa the Revealers.
@@Iori-c7m Bihasa na siya kahit sa Numbers... articles and etc.
Even there are many questions...we Atheist never jump up to conclusion na... therefore "There is God ".... We appreciate more on Science
@@gardenlover23 oncam next debate thats it
Obvious naman ilang years ba naman iniwasan si KAU
@@Iori-c7minteresting yung oncam nga naman... tho i think hindi naka kodigo yung Ilu as planned porket rapid fire sya nung first round, i think kabisado nya na yun lahat tas nirecite nya lang basta. kasi marami siyang points nung round 1 na hindi naman pasok sa topic; contradiction sa bible yung point ng debate nila pero marami syang sinabi na nag dwell sa scientific inaccuracy instead. naisama nya lang siguro kasi muscle memory yung gumana.
i hope rin talaga oncam, for me yun ang icing on top nitong debate kasi gusto ko sila makita rin.❤
Yikes. The fact that he mentioned Richard carrier shows that his sources are flawed.
Are you a scholar or PhD manlang para sabihin mo yan kay Dr Richard Currier.
@@malikmatatv.1476 not just me. Other scholars as well refute him. Why? He is a Jesus mythic which means he doesn't believe Jesus existed at all. Even Bart Ehrman who is an agnostic doesn't believe in that thesis.
When im in a shotgunning fallacy competition and my opponent is Ilu:☹️.
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My take is the Bible naman talaga is never written scientifically. So im not sure why ILU is hammering the fact na hindi siya scientifically accurate. I guess ang contention niya talaga is the literal or the fundamentalist approach of reading the scriptures.
Hindi nga sya scientific book. Kaya sceintifically inaccurate. May mga christians na naglalatag ng scientific argument like genesis 1:1 talks about the bigbang, or the bible talks about the earth being spherical. I think you should know that bago ka kumuda 🙄
Umm yes there are Christians that are saying that the Big Bang is related to Genesis kase creation ex nihilio which George's Lamaitra also said that pero hanggang dun lang un. Other than that Christians who will claim na it's all scientific in nature ung genesis 1 is incorrect. Kase like Dr Heiser and Dr Walton OT scholars of ancient Hebrew that's not the purpose of Genesis 1. I think your contest is about the Fundamentalist approach when it comes to interpreting scriptures.
some are thinking that the bible is not Scientific because it contradicts what science THEORIES says, they forgot that the they should rely og Facts of science but not on theories..
@@sensei_Ilu very literal ung interpretasyon mo ng biblia
parang mali ata para sakin ang punto nio, kc kung Dios talaga sumulat o ipinasulat niya sa mga tagasunod niya ang bible eh dpt nakaayon dpt siya sa sensya, kc papano magagawa ng Dios ang sanlibutan kung wala syang alam sa siensya? o kung Dios sya dapat mula sa kanya ang lahat ng kaalaman dba? mukhang mahina lang si kaiu dto olats sya hahha@@sensei_Ilu
Ayos ganda ng debate KAU next time free will naman haha yun lagi topic nila dun sa tiktok
Pair by pair nga ayon sa INUTOS ng DIYOS kay Noah.. everything is possible with GOD..
Paano nalaman ni Noah na babae at lalaki ...na pair sila?
Pati ba dinosaur nakasakay don't n ba doon sa barko....?
May malaking aquarium ba si Noah sa barko....Kasi animals din sila na dapat isakay sa barko
No eat, no sick,no shit ba sila doon...?
Pinili si Noah at pamilya nya Kasi nga Special siya....pero lasing at hubot hubad doon sa bible
Yong hindi pa isinilang...wala pang ginagawa, alam na ni God na masama siya....
Pinatay lahat...ang bait talaga ni God noh!
Brad wala ng dinosaur non hahahaha
The atheist guy cannot stick to the topic. 😅
ayun na nga. pinanood ko ulit. hahaha ang kulit :)
Opening statement palang, false dillema na si Atheist Teacher haha
7:40 yung argument niya na walang pamagat ang mga verse sa bible is plain stupid. By the bible verses itself, yun na mismo ang title ng ñibro like Mathew, Revelation and etc.... Thats so stupid na iargue niya na balit walang pamagat ang bible, dahil dito hindi ito totoo.
7:59 another stupid argument yung part na third person. Ako as a writer itself, hindi po ganun kahalaga kung anong POV mp isusulat yung events kahit na naka third person or first person yan, ang mahalaga naisulat mo ang paragraph kung saan ka komportable bilang author. Thats the most stupid argument he did here. Ang importante yung message ng story at events regardless kung anong klaseng POV pa yan 🤦♂️
Stupid rin yang claim na may pamagat ang mga gospel. Walang pamagat ang mga gospel. that is a historical, scholarly fact. You should know that iho.
Kapag nakasulat sa third person, ibig sabihin, hindi sya ang nagsulat. the author is not a direct eyewitness
@@sensei_Ilunkakaawa ka kapatid 😆 .
@@sensei_Ilu
Kapag nakasulat sa third person, ibig sabihin, hindi sya ang nagsulat. the author is not a direct eyewitness
-->Nope. hindi porke third person perspective ang pag sulat ay hindi na siya ang nag sulat.
The Author is not a direct eyewitness
--> Hindi rin porke 3rd person narration ang pag kakasulat ay hindi na siya ang direct witness.
--> Depende sa writer kung ano trip nyang pag sulat.
@@sensei_Ilu Nalito din ako dito bakit pumasok sa list of contradictions yung title and authors ng Bible as contradictions? Mismo si Apostle Paul with the Book of Romans sa dulo ng book pumasok si Tertius, does that mean pumasok siya sa standard mo?
Its good also if you can consider how the ancient literature work hindi siya katulad satin na pag naisipan mong mag sulat e pwede kagad kung ayaw mo e dapat reject mo din mostly ng ancient literature.
Mahirap kc qng hindi binabasa ang context sa chery picking lng ung verse na binabasa
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Para po sa akin mas makabubuti na maniwala sa Bible.
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There’s no such thing as science, only scientists that come up with theories. Science is not everything. Marami pang bagay na hindi maipaliwag ng mga scientists. Lastly, hindi naman kaya ituro ng science ang morality at ethics, yan ang mostly tinuro ni jesus.
parang question nya dito ang pagka almighty ng Diyos ah, di nya alam lahat possible sa Diyos
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Nkakaawa ang mga taong di naniniwalang walang dios . Makinig kayo kay bro. Eli soriano masasagot mga tanong nyo .
mas nakakaawa ang taong tumanda tas nauto sa fairytales at umasa sa imaginary friend😂
@@katrinacinco tama nakakaawa ka kapatid.
@@jamvillarosa408 nakakaawa yung mga taong gang tumanda nauto ng religion haha
Maliligaw pag si baks Eli Pinaniwalaan mo 😊
More debate pa kay ilu about SA existence
Gusto ko lang pong sabihin, Lahat ng Naandyan sa Biblia ay Metaphore. 👍👍
Mam hindi lahat metaphors just corrected you
POV: Malayong Magkaiba ang pagsaSalin-salin sa PagdiDikwat-dikwat. 😆😆
Di marunong mag cross examine yung kadebate ni KAU .. dapat stick lng sa sinabi ni kau yung dapat itanong .. o kaya gawa xa ng paraan para mpunta sa gusto nyang mnagyari ..
Yown!
Cross nya wala dun sa opening statement ni kau pano naging cross yun?😁😁😁
WTH talaga
Kung hindi kayo naniniwala sa bible, hndi rin kayo naniniwala sa Angel at Demons? How about exorcism? Gawa gawa lang ganon?
Tama si KAU about reconciliation. If you read the bible objectively and understanding the actual story, there will be no contradiction. They may be expressed in a different way but the story is still the same. Sa tanong about Judas in Acts and Matthew, Matthew said Judas threw away the 30 pcs of silver kasi ayaw tanggapin ng mga Chief priests nung sinosoli nya after that he left and hang himself. Meanwhile the Chief Priest used the 30 silver coins and bought a land later called Field of Blood. In acts, Peter's story did not contradict Matthew's, when he said that Judas bought a field where he fell headlong, he means to say that the payment used to buy the field is Judas's because the Chief Priest did not accept the silver coins when Judas returned it to them but they simply used it. Peter may not knew the story about the Chief Priests action but he knew that the Field was bought using the payment to Judas wickedness. He fell headlong and his body burst open and intestines fell out. Peter knew that Judas fell, which in Matthew compliments about Judas hanging himself. Most likely Judas fell when his body is decomposing, possible the branch broke.
Acts 1:15-19
Matthew 27:3-10
well said bro
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Heb 11
Mahirap na topic yan kasi literal intindi ng isang atheist sa biblia. Ang christian naman never nya babasahin na literal lamang ang bible.
pag LGBT talaga walang diyos yan...
Ang Bible kasi nasalin sa madaming translations at languages, “Ang Biblia” at “King James” version lang yung halos pinaka malapit sa original manuscript. God don’t contradicts himself hindi lahat ng nakasulat sa Biblia eh literal.
Please reference this.
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Aray, debunked si ilu.
My youtube ba si Ilu
sana magkadebate kayo ni nico david.
Hindi kakagat si Boy Panghe dahil alam niyang mapapahiya lang siya
isang tanong ko din unang tao sina adan at eva..at anak nila si cain at abel, nung pinatay ni cain si abel pinalayas sya sa paraiso di ba? tapos sabi din dun sa bible nakapag asawa si cain..so ibig ba sabihin bukod sa kanila may ibang tao pa?
@@Malasakit0720 ... marami raw anak na babae sina Adan at Eva hindi lng nasulat sa libro...
May babae na sa Genesis 1(pareho sila ginawa kawangis sa kanya)....at si Eva nman ang nasa Genesis 2 na kinuha galing kay Adan.....
@@gardenlover23 ha? pero kung iintindihin mo mabuti sila lang talaga eh.
nag focus sa lineage po ni Abel and Cain pero madami pa silang kapatid which at that time possible pa ang inc*st. Isang interpretation for "old earth creationist" hindi sila Adam and Eve ang technically unang human pero first human in a sense of susundan yung story or pinili ng Lord , like how Israel was chosen.
@@Malasakit0720 Genesis 5:4 The days of Adam after he fathered Seth were 800 years; and he had other sons and daughters.
@@mariembuenaventura1278 ewan lang ha? Kasi kahit paulit ulit ko binasa yun eh silang apat pa lang talaga ang tao nung time na pinalayas si cain eh.
Putek sa Liar Paradox kaya sya na brought up dahil sa contradiction maniniwala ka ba sa Liar Telling he is a lying? is he telling the truth or not? self-referential.
May script siya. Halatang may binabasa e,😂
Kaya inaistent sya sa 15 minutes
malamang debate yan may prep talaga, baliw ka yata eh
Ilang years ba naman iniiwasan si KAU malamang naghanda 😂
parang rapid fire nga sya nung first round. kumbaga parang rapper na dirediretso magsabi ng lyrics by muscle memory.
i think dun din sya nagkamali. kasi karamihan ng point nya is about "inaccuracy" ng bible, e ang topic na inagreehan nila e contradiction. nasama nya siguro kasi yun pagka kabisado nya. 😔
Titanic Analogy
Eyewitness 1: buong lumubog yung titanic
Eyewitness 2: nahati sa gitna yung titanic tapos lumubog
Christians: its either buong lumubog or nahati sa gitna yung titanic
Atheist: dahil may contradiction sa account, its eitheir hindi lumubog yung titanic or titanic is a myth, titanic didnt exist
This analogy proves that bible is not accurate.
@@jjasherlanzon how so?
@@alsantos4817 this proves that The bible is man made not God Made 🎉🎉🎉
@@jc2505 how so?
As if bawal mahati then lumubog. Sounds like a FALSE dichotomy.
mukhang hindi sinagot ang contradictions na nilabas ng athiest . kung naniniwala kang HOLY ang libro mo dapat ZERO contradiction ito . kung hindi mo kayang ipaliwanag ang mga contradictions ay dapat hindi ka nakikipagdebate . anyway kahit hindi na ako christian ay madali lang sagutin ang contradiction daw na alin ang nauna tao o halaman . pero ang iba malabong masasagot
Ano tiktok accnt ni ILu? Or may YT accnt ba sya?
sobrang Inaccurate ang bible sa totoo.
sobrang accurate ang bible sa totoo.
@@KaMAtisAnalysisUnit hahahaha. Sobrang immoral at puro scientific error.
@@IGLESIANIMANALO1914 Mali, ikaw yung immoral at puro scientific error. Isipin mo, Kamatis may basehan ng immoral? at Science? HIndi nyo nga ma defend ang LOGIC eh. hahahaha
hmm? "Bible is False" parang may mali sa title kasi Bible is compilation ng mga books so kapag sinabing Bible meaning all verse sa Bible is False at Contradictions? Correct me if I am wrong sa pagkakaintindi ko.
Then kung ganun nga at tama pagkakaintindi ko, pwede siya I considered as scientific book. Hindi pure science book but atleast makukuhanan ng evidence na pwedeng supportahan ng science.
Example
Job 36:27
"Ang tubig sa lupa'y itinataas ng Diyos,
upang gawing ulan at sa daigdig ay ibuhos"
Katumbas sa science
"Evaporation, Condensation at Precipitation"
correct order pa.
Hindi naman porket mahirap unawain yung ibang verse meaning contradicting na.
May naka sulat na literal at metaphorical diyaan.
Kaya how can you prove na the bible is false at many contradictions kung meron siyang nababanggit na facts na kaya din supportahan ng science?
Atheist searching for answers while kamatis speaks gibberish to sound intellegent with no rebutal. Walang kwenta debate... Parehas lang yung sa tanong prutas ba ang apple? Kamatis be like apple is made of water with a dose of protein and fat and because of that apple is born through the soil with magnesium and shit..
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Kamatis di mo naman masagot ng maayos dati si atheist joy eh.😅
Kaantok. Maigi pa manood na lang kayo ng debate nila Lennox, Craig, Dawkins, Hitchens at marami pang related.
nung sinama mo si "Dawkins, Hitchen" wala na...tapos na usapan...alam ko na kagad ang kalidad mo.
@@KaMAtisAnalysisUnitI'm suggesting a gateway for at least decent debates to watch from people of both worlds. Kung may kalidad ka magbasa, nakita mo sana yung sinabi ko na, "...marami pang related." I was assuming na if ever in this speck-of-a-dust corner ng cringe Pinoy TH-cam ay mabasa nang kung sino na talagang interesado these common, entry level names, and maybe pag-aralan pa nang mas malalim yung ganitong usapin. Kasi nga, nakakaantok at sabog-sabog talaga tong video na to.
Anywho, paghahabol sa hangin.
Bakit pa lumaban sa debate si kau eh wala namang alam sa bible. Sasabihin lang na kahit may contadiction sa bible it doesnt prove anything.
Oo nga.... genesis1 pa nga lang ....sa creation....
Kung i.drawing mo siya mas maiitindihan nyan... kontra sa Science...nauna ang halaman bago ang araw....hay nako, pati pag bilang ng days mali din don
Let be light!...tapos gumawa ulit ng light ..😅...
Nakakatalino ang pagbabasa ng bibliya kaya....tinapon ko
Hindi mo na gets Dinala ni KAU sa realm ng Logic ang usapan to determine kung pano nag dederive si ILU kaso dun na exposed si ILU na classical logic lang tinatanggap niya naging Tutorial tuloy LOGIC 101 class.
kahit grant mo ng my "contradictions" sa Bible need mo padin ma prove na false yun or unreliable. For example, sa news X sinabi na 5 ang nmty isa ang nakaligtas pero sa news Y sinabi na lima ang nalunod, contradiction kya yun?
Ito sir magandang ma prove Corinthians 15:14-20 ... if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain. Pag naka hanap ka ng literature na sinabing natabi nila mismo yung bangkay ni Jesus game over na. You can try to read or search videos by Dr. Gary Habermas.
kaya ako naging atheist e dahil apaka dami ng contradiction sa bible tapos anonymous pa nagsulat puro pa fairytales na kesyo naglakad sa tubig si jesus at may nagsalita na ahas haha kung may logic ka maniniwala kaba sa mga story na yan😂😂@@criefride07
@@katrinacinco hahaha kaya mo Yan ganyan din ako dati Militant Atheist eh lahat Ng inconsistency contradiction and even deaths may notes ako, pero dati Yun simula naging follower ako ni Atty L. And KAU Dito naiba Yung views ko, Laws and Logic na Tame Yung pagiging Atheist ko, Weird lang sa Atheist laging God topic natin 🤣🤣 PS protected Ng Laws natin Ang any Religious practices ingat ka lang sa pag mock
Ang Bible ay hindi scientific book pero may indications na tama ang Bible pagdating sa iba pang issue concerning sa science. Ironically para kay Prof Ilu, dyan pa lang sa arguments nya, purong assumption na walang basis.
I think I will make reaction video concerning Prof Ilu's silly arguments against the reliability of the Bible in Tiktok live stream.
Hindi nga sya scientific book. Kaya sceintifically inaccurate. May mga christians na naglalatag ng scientific argument like genesis 1:1 talks about the bigbang, or the bible talks about the earth being spherical. I think you should know that bago ka kumuda 🙄
Eh sayo na mismo nang galing na hndi sya science book, so why do you take it as scientific fact? Of course it’s not. It’s biblically correct.
Yun yung point ng argument nyo na hndi mo maintindihan.
@@Daryyyll ang problema sa claim mo, dahil lang sa sinabi ko na hindi scientific book ang Bible, nag assume ka na hindi totoo ang Bible. You're not reading my entire comment here. Uulitin ko, Daryyll. Hindi man scientific book ang Bibliya, may mga indikasyon sa Bibliya na napatunayang totoolalo na sa modern science katulad ng simula ng universe at law of entropy. Again, nag assume ka na naman. Hehe
@@sirroelsblog3415 hey im not reffering to you, im reffering to ilu
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Bakit itatake ni Ilu as science fact ang bible whereas ndi naman talaga sya science book in the first place.
So scientifically speaking yes it is false. But biblically correct.
so in short nanalo si PROF ILU sa debate ? kasi hindi napatunayan na ang Bible ay walang false contradiction ?? hindi po ako hater ni KAU ah just stating my opinion hehe.
False contradictions? Thats 2 different things... Just because there's contradiction doesn't mean its false.. watch mo po ulet..
I think hindi since na prove ni KAU na contradictions doesn't make it wrong.
@johncarloflorentino God is the true contradiction, As a chrisitian, that logic is enough for me to believe sa teachings ng Bible... Ilu on the other hand, can't also prove that the Bible is False just because there's contradiction. So nasa tao na yan kung kanino maniniwala..at kung sinu panala pra sa knla..
@@abb.3788yup. Also I think ang may issue si ILU is dun sa literal or fundamentalist approach in interpreting scriptures. Kase his criticisms are mostly elementary at best eh kung un talaga pang hahawakan niya ha.
@@abb.3788 ah na-watch ko naman na po kasi tinatanong ni KAU si prof ILU kung therefore false ang Bible nag sabi naman sya ng YES and infact nagbigay naman ng instance or sample si prof ILU kung ano yung mga contradictions sa Bible which is hindi nman nasagot ni KAU kung totoo yun or hindi.
ang summary kasi ng debate I think is kung totoo ba ang Bible ay may contradiction or wala. so it seems \ na meron ngaa talaga based dito sa debate.
Tingin ko ang bagay na kadebate ni prof ILU dito is yung maalam talaga or nag aral sa theology yung kayang mag explain ng context ng bawat scripture na pinag kokompare nya
sana nagresearch ka pa kau, lumakas tuloy loob ng mga atis
ikaw ang mag research, ikaw ang reason kung bakit lumalakas ang loob ng mga kamatis. Because of your ignorance.
@@KaMAtisAnalysisUnit nyahahaha. Platter ka pa sa pagiging pretender mo
nyahaha. platter ka pa sa pagiging pretender mo
Ako yung pretender pero ikaw ang dummy account at puro claims? Kaya dumadami ang mga kamatis dahil sa mga tulad mo.
@@KaMAtisAnalysisUnit
dami nilatag ng atis. Ikaw? puro kamatis nyahahahaha.
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ang dami mong eme KAU contradiction logic logic yan simply lang oh may contradiction tapos
dami mong eme puro rants walang arguments...oh tapos, trolll???!
Shut up nalang pag walang argumento 😂
@@KaMAtisAnalysisUnit ikaw wala argument eh kundi rants rants
thats the point... sabihin na nating granted na may "contradiction," does that mean na hindi na totoo yung libro?
sorry bro pero kung ayaw mo sa logic, e baka hindi para sayo ang debate kasi kailangan talaga ng logic sa mga bagay bagay.
Walang kwentang debate, si kayo positive side pero ayaw sumagot sa tanong puro pass.
Ikaw ang walang kwentang viewer! Hindi mo nga alam kung sino ang sa AFFIRMATIVE SIDE! Kahit literal ng sinabi ng MOD! Wag kang TANGA! Eyyy
Negative side po si KAU. ibng replay ata napanuod nyo😅😅😅
hala sya. negative side si KAU, hindi positive. saka bat sasagutin yung mga nilatag e di naman pasok sa topic. di ka nanuod no?
Anu kamatis kaya pa?😅
Kaya pa, magsama pa kayong mag idol 2 v 1, same topic baka nakapag review na ang idol mo.