Ive been trying to tell people this in my kingdom. Some people were saying he was useless because he was blocked from the map. I think it's nice that newbies get to experience the strength of an expertise commander early on.
Scipio P had 10% chance to have 3×500 direct dmg proc, and Remember skill dmg tree from ragnar had additional dmg +6% which is gonna be decent with this combi
Whats amazing for infantry atm is im hearing all kinds of options for 3 march line ups. We have options now. If commanders stay on par and dont power creep to much this can be true for all troop types
Ragnar's 4th skill is a little bit conflicting with the design of the map for him. His 4th skill's 15% skill dmg buff only benifits the active skill of the primary commander in his march which means he's better as primary commander. While in the map King of All Britain, he is supposed to be a good secondary for all troop type. So on the map that is made for him, one of his skills doesn't work in the best way for him?
Lilith has been pumping out lots of new mechanics in this game lately. So I would bet that the next infantry commander would have a new mechanic that’s not necessarily smite. A shielding commander that deals damage based on the shield perhaps? Basically, Lilith isn’t gonna make it easy for us to make a prediction 😅
I hope that Lilith only put him as Infantry to test him out and that they are just gonna make him leadership and change the Infantry specific stats to all damage
considering that the new infantry generations come in January. The Meta could be Liu / Scipio and Walace / New infantry commander with smite damage. I think Ragnar's biggest doubt is in the future of the infantry, smite or skill?
I actually ran scipio Alex in my current kvk and it actually performed quite well. That relic has really helped Alex. I think Ragnar Alex would be a solid march.
@@OmniarchOfficial I was thinking that Ragnar/LC would be amazing to slow marches that want to run away. Drain their march speed then slow them further with LC's skill.
I just unlocked LC, playing kvk3 for the first time. I saved every gh since day one to expertise LC but now I'm thinking about expertising RP. I feel like with his relic he will be the most flexible and future proof commander. What do you think? What should I do?
I run guan/scipio, liu/alex, zhege/herman p, nev/joan I have enough to max a new commander, i didn’t go for ww because I wanted to see if better commanders but now with ragnar prime I’m stuck on who to bench and who to invest in
Still looking for the best 3 infantry marches.... I have Expertise: LC, WW, Scipio, Gorgo, GY, Alex, Sargon, Martel (lol), and have enough GH for Ragnar Prime to expertise when he drops..... I only have 1 solid Cav march and my only Archer is Zhuge/YSG...... so looking for that 3 infantry march combo.
just expertise ww, smite damage hits more prickly than skill damage and gives the enemy more sevs... that's the power of normal/smite damage commanders... just bring scipio /ragnar and ww/lc and you're good to go
Love your videos! I have a question. The game glitched on me and I have no access to the commander trust system (golden apples, conversations with commanders). I'm only 200k, is that feature enough to restart? I'm new
Hey omni,i have a question to ask you,i started playing the game back in late 2019,for several years,i never played the game consistently,never reached ch25,im at 24 know,i tried doing new accounts,but nothing kinda worked,people who are paying are always making the game *not fun for us,can you make a video,on a well detailed way for f2p,how to maximise speedups,what commanders to use and must use,and how to upgraid them? I just deleted the game bcs the server i migrated to want everyone to delete there siege army,or else you get zeroed,i hope you will help me with it and idk if others like me that are f2p and are struggling with this,and yes i started 6 years ago but never was consistent bcs game never was fun for me
I think you could also use ragnar as a secondary for huo in a cav march since he only has one inf only skill and even that one still gives normal damage reduction.Probably better than william.
Tough decision for infantry investment if in kvk3 now. Next infantry cycle wont matter as ile be doing cavs. Obviously Lc, but if long term future is smite Ww could be better than Ragnar or Scipio because i could split Ww/LC in a few years. I will likely run 4 marchs tops.
As someone who currently uses Alex/Liu Che and has for 6 months now I think? AND recently fought multiple infantry mains who use William Wallace/Liu Che. They beat me every time sadly ;( he’s slow but he’s a tank beast tbh
Would you consider Guan/Ragnar and Scipio/LC if you do not have WW and run two Infantry marches? Thinking of the AOE damage, keeping the silence on the field while making guan tankier (Edit to delete after continuing to watch your video 😂)
Maybe at a big murderball where you are going to stand a chance of staying in contact with the enemy you are hitting, it’s difficult to get Sargon damage over time into play consistently which is a shame as a lot of people invested in him, still see him used as a secondary in rally in my last kvk but not so much on the field.
Could you explain why using alex and LC can make you turn your brain off and is easy to use? Havent tested it but as a returning player I have alex and now LC but people keep saying not to use alex
@@lazygun586 Alex’s instant proc damage occurs more often because of LC’s expertise plus it’s very fast. You can just go in and out of battle and pop the instant proc and farm kills lol
A couple of kvks back we were so badly matched that we rarely had control of the field for long, I was farming kills for fun cheeseburgering from citys, the damage is so big and so fast and skill cycle is done before people you are hitting have time to use their active skill - you are back in the city and ready to send it out again.
i think we need better visuals or / and more for skills that has chance to give some kind of cc (or debuff) even poison stacks are not visible everytime. i dont mean everyone to see it , just for yourself. 🤨
What about Guan Ragnar and Scipio Liu? Taking in mind old players that might have Guan, Scipio and Liu. For newer players of course, Guan is not in the equation. I'm in the old players team
Hey bro, why is Zhuge Liang additional damage factor only 750? His marquis effect deals 1500 damage factor to 3 targets, with not even reduction for each extra target (true that its not affected by damage buffs, but still!!)
@@mentalist9167 "Whenever this commander's troop uses an active skill...". It means any active skill of the troop. Different to "whenever this commander uses an active skill...". So if he is expertise, he starts with the 10% bonus damage and when the primary commander casts the active skill, he deals the 1500x3 damage. Then with the secondary commander skill, he recovers the 10% damage buff. And repeats that every cycle. Thats why his expertise is so valuable, it makes the 10% damage buff stay longer.
I really think Guan/Ragnar and Scipio/LC is the best two infantry. They’re both tanky, debuffing, DOUBLE AOE, and fast. That’s gotta be the best for open field even if LC/Alex hits like it does.
Yeah ragnar is cracked. it's gonna mess up my gold head plans due to being off cycle but i really do not think he's skipable. Oh, one thing to note is that the up time on the 3rd ragnar skill is like 80%+. There's no cool down and it procs off his attacks and from people attacking him. It's probably more fair to say that ragnar has 30% march speed and 15% attack or average. PS: IMO ragnar/liu is now the best march if you're building 1 inf march. the skill tree is totally fine for liu, mostly adds rage gen which is just always good.
@OmniarchOfficial really? I invested in sargon and used him 1 kvk 😂. Was always told he is good if running 3 inf marches . And his awed debuff was good with 3 inf marches . Ragnar can be that guy that spreads it 😂. Well that's my wish anyway 😅 But yea sargon is bad but maybe Ragnar can revive him
RP is meta but most players can't or shouldn't attempt to expertice him. 690 gold heads is like a 6 month commitment for even a low spend, let alone an F2P. Then, you have to have a quality pairingvlike Scipio maxed. Then, if you already have two experticed infantry marches; do you add a third? Or who gets benched? Then infantry is coming a few months away in Summer of 25. This is a whale/kraken toy for players with superfluous gold heads. I'll stick with Guan/Scipio and LC/Alex. Hell, I don't have enough heads to even do Wallace right now. 😂
@@davidw.5185 at vip 14 and up, 6 months seems like a little bit of a stretch. I mean, you get 90 a month by virtue of vip alone. As a low spender myself, I can scrounge up 690 in about 3-4 months. I personally think he's a worthy investment for 2 inf march players. But, only my opinion 😁
Actually if your properly stingy you would notice that RagP is the first true meta commander in quite a while and you should already have alot of heads saved up for him. Last cav, inf, and archer cycles were just "ok". RagP is easily better than all of them
@krullux2042 I agree with this to a degree. Everything accurate, except I do believe WW is a bit better than the rest, and is meta. Simply because of utility in his rage reduction talent. That's pretty solid imo. But yeah, the rest were mehhh. I think Rag P is definitely a solid investment for the mb.
@@GrowmietheGreenMan it seems you invested in WW but not a meta commander, doesn't have enough to be, slighty difference with lc/Alex so he will be replaced with next infa commanders
He’s gonna be good to have when the next inf comes out cuz then you’ll have a solid 3 inf line up: Gorgo/Alex + LC, Wallace + New Comm, and Ragnar + Scipio
People arent talking about it because they dont have any GH for this shit, it should be cav inf arch leadership/siege repeat, commanders like this are too much, only whales can invest, he should be expedition or 0/10 commander instantly for not being in regular cycle and ruining peoples ability to invest accordingly, cant just spring a random meta commander out of nowhere when it takes 6 months worth of GH to expertise a commander 👍
2 different commanders. Logically it wont apply to both. You could make the argument that if they are 2 different commanders then why can't we use them in a pair, but it would be too much to expect Lilith to buff 2 commanders with one relic 😅
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How to get Ragnar
I feel like ragnar's additional dmg can really help sargon spread his debuff
Everyone in our kingdom is using Ragnar to finish expedition on our farms. Super helpful having a free expertise commander on f2p farms.
Ive been trying to tell people this in my kingdom. Some people were saying he was useless because he was blocked from the map. I think it's nice that newbies get to experience the strength of an expertise commander early on.
How do I get Ragnar prime?
@@strat3g1cal41 Click on the event page called "first strike" and claim him there.
He can usess in canyoon tho
Scipio P had 10% chance to have 3×500 direct dmg proc, and Remember skill dmg tree from ragnar had additional dmg +6% which is gonna be decent with this combi
Yeah true!
Whats amazing for infantry atm is im hearing all kinds of options for 3 march line ups. We have options now. If commanders stay on par and dont power creep to much this can be true for all troop types
Ragnar's 4th skill is a little bit conflicting with the design of the map for him. His 4th skill's 15% skill dmg buff only benifits the active skill of the primary commander in his march which means he's better as primary commander. While in the map King of All Britain, he is supposed to be a good secondary for all troop type.
So on the map that is made for him, one of his skills doesn't work in the best way for him?
Lilith has been pumping out lots of new mechanics in this game lately. So I would bet that the next infantry commander would have a new mechanic that’s not necessarily smite. A shielding commander that deals damage based on the shield perhaps? Basically, Lilith isn’t gonna make it easy for us to make a prediction 😅
I actually would love that to happen. That probably could revive commanders like charles as usable in SOC
I hope that Lilith only put him as Infantry to test him out and that they are just gonna make him leadership and change the Infantry specific stats to all damage
considering that the new infantry generations come in January. The Meta could be Liu / Scipio and Walace / New infantry commander with smite damage. I think Ragnar's biggest doubt is in the future of the infantry, smite or skill?
Ragnar+ scipio and William/alex with Liu will be meta
love this video, I wish you had used Gorgo as an example too though.
I actually ran scipio Alex in my current kvk and it actually performed quite well. That relic has really helped Alex. I think Ragnar Alex would be a solid march.
Ragnar + Scipio will be next march now… so much for my planned archer march 😢
There should be at least one meta commander available through golden🔑 keys
100% agree on Alex v WW as well, for pairing with LC
For my first inf march, I'm going to go for Ragnar/LC
@@danielthuku8192 I would consider Scipio/LC since it has a nice debuff and more balanced stats and march speed!
@@OmniarchOfficial I was thinking that Ragnar/LC would be amazing to slow marches that want to run away. Drain their march speed then slow them further with LC's skill.
Your calculation for Zhuge is wrong. You didn't consider the 1500 dmg factor aoe on his 4th skill. He deals the most damage
YESSSS thanks for this video bro
thx for the video bro
You think Trajan would work with Ragnar 🤷 totally wrote this before you mentioned it 😎 great video
I just unlocked LC, playing kvk3 for the first time. I saved every gh since day one to expertise LC but now I'm thinking about expertising RP. I feel like with his relic he will be the most flexible and future proof commander. What do you think? What should I do?
The thing i don't like about test without equipmen is that noone in a serious combat on open field will attack you without equipment
I run guan/scipio, liu/alex, zhege/herman p, nev/joan
I have enough to max a new commander, i didn’t go for ww because I wanted to see if better commanders but now with ragnar prime I’m stuck on who to bench and who to invest in
Replace Guan with RagnarP if you want better trades 🙌
Should I play Ragnar P. Or Scipio P. With Ysg expertised
Still looking for the best 3 infantry marches.... I have Expertise: LC, WW, Scipio, Gorgo, GY, Alex, Sargon, Martel (lol), and have enough GH for Ragnar Prime to expertise when he drops..... I only have 1 solid Cav march and my only Archer is Zhuge/YSG...... so looking for that 3 infantry march combo.
just expertise ww, smite damage hits more prickly than skill damage and gives the enemy more sevs... that's the power of normal/smite damage commanders... just bring scipio /ragnar and ww/lc and you're good to go
Love your videos! I have a question. The game glitched on me and I have no access to the commander trust system (golden apples, conversations with commanders). I'm only 200k, is that feature enough to restart? I'm new
Hey omni,i have a question to ask you,i started playing the game back in late 2019,for several years,i never played the game consistently,never reached ch25,im at 24 know,i tried doing new accounts,but nothing kinda worked,people who are paying are always making the game *not fun for us,can you make a video,on a well detailed way for f2p,how to maximise speedups,what commanders to use and must use,and how to upgraid them? I just deleted the game bcs the server i migrated to want everyone to delete there siege army,or else you get zeroed,i hope you will help me with it and idk if others like me that are f2p and are struggling with this,and yes i started 6 years ago but never was consistent bcs game never was fun for me
I think you could also use ragnar as a secondary for huo in a cav march since he only has one inf only skill and even that one still gives normal damage reduction.Probably better than william.
What you just said about (guan/Ragnar) (LC/Alex)(Scipio /Tariq) is the 3 infa marchs that i was thinking of using next kvk
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I would run Scipio/Ragnar guan/pyhrus LC/alex
Can I know how to pair 3 infantry marches if I have gorgo
@@limkang9614 LC/Alex, Ragnar/Scipio, WW/Gorgo
Tough decision for infantry investment if in kvk3 now. Next infantry cycle wont matter as ile be doing cavs. Obviously Lc, but if long term future is smite Ww could be better than Ragnar or Scipio because i could split Ww/LC in a few years. I will likely run 4 marchs tops.
As someone who currently uses Alex/Liu Che and has for 6 months now I think? AND recently fought multiple infantry mains who use William Wallace/Liu Che. They beat me every time sadly ;( he’s slow but he’s a tank beast tbh
Do you think Ragnar + harald is good?
Would you consider Guan/Ragnar and Scipio/LC if you do not have WW and run two Infantry marches? Thinking of the AOE damage, keeping the silence on the field while making guan tankier (Edit to delete after continuing to watch your video 😂)
I would think based on this you would run Ragnar LC and guan scipio as the two pairs if you don't have WW
I'm reqlly eagered to see if Ragnar/Luu deals so much dmg that It becomes the best inf march
The truth is that he is a new standard for infantry meta. 💯💯💯💯
I only have Liu chi what should I do
1.WW/LC 2.GUAN/SCIP 3.RAGNAR/ALEX
I want to use him with Sargon , I’m using scip alex and gorgo Liu which I don’t want to change , any advice. I want to make use of 690 heads in Sargon
it’s a good 3rd inf march & synergy
@@dgips455 think il do that instead of Wallace
Maybe at a big murderball where you are going to stand a chance of staying in contact with the enemy you are hitting, it’s difficult to get Sargon damage over time into play consistently which is a shame as a lot of people invested in him, still see him used as a secondary in rally in my last kvk but not so much on the field.
@@denis-mf3cx should I do tariq then ? And then just use him for rally when I need to ?
When you run 3 Marches, why not use WW/Gorgo, Liu/Alex and Ragnar Prime/Scipio Prime? I think that would be fine aswell
@@Clxsaty could be, yeah. I just want guans silence out there lol
@@OmniarchOfficial Yea me too. Personally im not sticking with Guan since im low spender anyway
how can you get ragnar prime? im a new player and have no idea
Why not ragnar ysg.The skill damage buff from ysg with lvl3 relic is bananas!
Very true but also very slow unfortunately!
Could you explain why using alex and LC can make you turn your brain off and is easy to use? Havent tested it but as a returning player I have alex and now LC but people keep saying not to use alex
@@lazygun586 Alex’s instant proc damage occurs more often because of LC’s expertise plus it’s very fast. You can just go in and out of battle and pop the instant proc and farm kills lol
A couple of kvks back we were so badly matched that we rarely had control of the field for long, I was farming kills for fun cheeseburgering from citys, the damage is so big and so fast and skill cycle is done before people you are hitting have time to use their active skill - you are back in the city and ready to send it out again.
Also kicked ass in field fights.
Believe or not I tested Ragnar sargon in real fight in kvk and I smashed people it’s in same level of ww lc 🔥😂
So ragnar prime new op meta commander for infantry?
Ragnar P do check boxes as meta but infa mains were looking for smite commanders😅
do you imagine the only way to get Ragnar would be going to that specific kvk? that would be insane lmao
will latent power work on ragnar??
100% yes
I used Ragnar prime with Expertise Liu Che and they were kicking butt in lost and sunset canyon
Please talk about Shajar primary.
i think we need better visuals or / and more for skills that has chance to give some kind of cc (or debuff) even poison stacks are not visible everytime. i dont mean everyone to see it , just for yourself. 🤨
What about Guan Ragnar and Scipio Liu? Taking in mind old players that might have Guan, Scipio and Liu. For newer players of course, Guan is not in the equation. I'm in the old players team
Hey bro, why is Zhuge Liang additional damage factor only 750? His marquis effect deals 1500 damage factor to 3 targets, with not even reduction for each extra target (true that its not affected by damage buffs, but still!!)
It’s every other skill cycle, so only 50% of the time
@@OmniarchOfficial its 50% but for each active skill including both commanders, so its once per cycle and still hits 3 targets
Its only for one commander, one time in 2 skill cycles. after removing marquis effect ,this 1500 damage is activated
@@mentalist9167 "Whenever this commander's troop uses an active skill...". It means any active skill of the troop. Different to "whenever this commander uses an active skill...". So if he is expertise, he starts with the 10% bonus damage and when the primary commander casts the active skill, he deals the 1500x3 damage. Then with the secondary commander skill, he recovers the 10% damage buff. And repeats that every cycle. Thats why his expertise is so valuable, it makes the 10% damage buff stay longer.
Liu Che/ Alex, Ragnar/Scipio, Scipio A/ WW. Is what i Will run
Put him behind Scipi P, and fire all that raw damage into a 30%health debuff rip lol
I really think Guan/Ragnar and Scipio/LC is the best two infantry. They’re both tanky, debuffing, DOUBLE AOE, and fast. That’s gotta be the best for open field even if LC/Alex hits like it does.
Guan/Ragnar is not fast
Thats why I love to bring WW into battle field, because no one targeting me 😂😅
this my last time watching a video in your channel
too many ads and I can't skip them !!
@@omega7824 try using an adblocker! :)
Yeah ragnar is cracked. it's gonna mess up my gold head plans due to being off cycle but i really do not think he's skipable.
Oh, one thing to note is that the up time on the 3rd ragnar skill is like 80%+. There's no cool down and it procs off his attacks and from people attacking him.
It's probably more fair to say that ragnar has 30% march speed and 15% attack or average.
PS: IMO ragnar/liu is now the best march if you're building 1 inf march. the skill tree is totally fine for liu, mostly adds rage gen which is just always good.
I really wonder how we're gonna get him...
@@OmniarchOfficial yeah should know after pre kvk is over for the new kvk formats i guess.
Gaun/pyruss luche/alex ragnar/ scipio
It's truly a conundrum.
WW & Liu Che, Ragnar & Scipio Ps are your go to inf marches.
Wouldn't you want sargon with Ragnar so aoe spreads his awed effect ?
@@gregnakahulkmah4959 no because Sargon is bad
@OmniarchOfficial really? I invested in sargon and used him 1 kvk 😂.
Was always told he is good if running 3 inf marches . And his awed debuff was good with 3 inf marches . Ragnar can be that guy that spreads it 😂. Well that's my wish anyway 😅
But yea sargon is bad but maybe Ragnar can revive him
YEEEEEET!!! RAGNAR PRIME FOR THE FAT DUB!!! 🫵😎
Literal Gigachad
Ill max him cuz inf only challenge haha
Gigachad! You'll love him I'm sure of it
Mehmed with scipio for a third inf march
I would do lc alex and ragnar scipy u get 2 pair there
Ragnar sargon perfect testing
if your going to run 3 inf id take alex out for sargon. ragnar and sargon are designed for eachother
RP is meta but most players can't or shouldn't attempt to expertice him. 690 gold heads is like a 6 month commitment for even a low spend, let alone an F2P.
Then, you have to have a quality pairingvlike Scipio maxed. Then, if you already have two experticed infantry marches; do you add a third? Or who gets benched? Then infantry is coming a few months away in Summer of 25.
This is a whale/kraken toy for players with superfluous gold heads.
I'll stick with Guan/Scipio and LC/Alex. Hell, I don't have enough heads to even do Wallace right now. 😂
@@davidw.5185 at vip 14 and up, 6 months seems like a little bit of a stretch. I mean, you get 90 a month by virtue of vip alone. As a low spender myself, I can scrounge up 690 in about 3-4 months. I personally think he's a worthy investment for 2 inf march players. But, only my opinion 😁
Actually if your properly stingy you would notice that RagP is the first true meta commander in quite a while and you should already have alot of heads saved up for him. Last cav, inf, and archer cycles were just "ok". RagP is easily better than all of them
@krullux2042 I agree with this to a degree. Everything accurate, except I do believe WW is a bit better than the rest, and is meta. Simply because of utility in his rage reduction talent. That's pretty solid imo. But yeah, the rest were mehhh. I think Rag P is definitely a solid investment for the mb.
Unless he replaces Aethel in the Expedition
@@GrowmietheGreenMan it seems you invested in WW but not a meta commander, doesn't have enough to be, slighty difference with lc/Alex so he will be replaced with next infa commanders
Has Harold been removed from the game?
Ragnar/Harold
Such a wallace hater. My only march is wallace/liu
The Wallace slander 😭😭😭
He’s gonna be good to have when the next inf comes out cuz then you’ll have a solid 3 inf line up: Gorgo/Alex + LC, Wallace + New Comm, and Ragnar + Scipio
People arent talking about it because they dont have any GH for this shit, it should be cav inf arch leadership/siege repeat, commanders like this are too much, only whales can invest, he should be expedition or 0/10 commander instantly for not being in regular cycle and ruining peoples ability to invest accordingly, cant just spring a random meta commander out of nowhere when it takes 6 months worth of GH to expertise a commander 👍
never underestimate silence. ww doesnt bring enough to the table. Scipio/ragP for 1 inf march. guan/ragP + scipio/LC for 2.
Awesome video and analysis man, you always take it above and beyond really appreciate it. Made my investment decision easier.
I love Ragnar prime why? Power creep! Cav 3000 damage factor aoe LOL
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@@58TURBORok real
👏👏👏👏
I've asked support if ragnar's relic apply to him also and they still haven't given me an answer
2 different commanders. Logically it wont apply to both.
You could make the argument that if they are 2 different commanders then why can't we use them in a pair, but it would be too much to expect Lilith to buff 2 commanders with one relic 😅
Нет
Translation: Another tool for the whales, because they need more of a advantage. 😂😂
Bad in canyon
@@WhiteGaming93 quite the opposite
Tests are wrong, ZL's maths is really wrong
2000+2000-(2000/100)x15+2000-(2000/100)x30+2000-(2000/100)x45+2000-(2000/100)x60 = 7000 + 20% skill damage bonus + 4th skill 1500x3 + expertise giving marquis effect
+ liu che's active skill, 2250+2250-(2250/100)x15+2250-(2250/100)x30+2250-(2250/100)x45+2250-(2250/100)x60 = 7875 + normal damage bonuses
@@canorken thats not how the 15% reduction per target is calculated
@@OmniarchOfficial How is it?
@@OmniarchOfficial oh wait is it 2000 reduced by 60% when it's hit to 5 targets? I'm sorry, my bad
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