Thats great to know. Everyone always puts these Legendary inscriptions at the top without knowing what they really do. Knowing this will absolutely help to set up my field marches different and focus on other inscription applications
Thanks, good info. I want to see, even just Arch, a list of importance/priority for of each inscription slot from the codex. I have yet to get a special/rare, so I settle for +health or +defense when I get them.
great vid , youve persuaded me to buy hunter instead for ZL, i was considering hunter or destructive as my second autarch. If even robust is better then i might as well buy that over in the kvk shop instead of destructive
Love the armament talk. I would like to see what kind of numbers are buffed for every piece on your generals and how you grind and gamed to achieve those levels.
Destructive is even worst in field because it only buffs the basic attack dmg to the MAIN target by 70%, NOT the counter attack, NOT the smite dmg even it hit on the skill cycle. This only good when you get swarm u dealt 3.5% more normal dmg to all swarmer and also do 70% more basic attack dmg to the MAIN target. When in rally or garrison situations the white number are relatively high because of high troops count so 70% addition in that situation is fine.
Great Video! Destructive doesn't actually give you +70% normal damage for 1 second though. It increases the damage of your next basic attack by 70%. So rather than 200 damage factor, it will deal 340 damage factor. So it's not amazing anti-swarm, but more like extra on hit damage for back and forth fights where you can't always stay engaged long enough to fire skills.
I trust the Devs to ninja-patch the actual computation if they made the mistake of making a 'Legendary' inscription weaker than 'Special/Rare' inscription. Whats described in the tooltip/description is inaccurate it happens all the time, and is prone to speculations. the code is the single source of truth.
Hi Chadsky. I saw this video on the day it was uploaded. I am an infantry player that plays WW/LC and Skippy/Alex. I maxed Gorgo and Hera is on the way. I have decent crit gear but not maz yet. Today is the day that I either buy Destructive from kvk shop "I got 1 day left" or buy Hunter for a future Cav or Archer march. I see all the testing you did is for Destructive alone. What happens when we put destructive with all the other special inscriptions? does the 3.5% increased normal damage from Destructive help get more overall damage from the other inscriptions? My second question is: If the above does not work and Destructive is deficient, will robust half second early help the overall damage exceed the above along with the the other three special inscriptions? for example in the calculations you did, the damage difference between Robust and Destructive isnt big. If you had all the other special inscriptions in the rest and changed robust, destructive, etc the difference might have been alot more. I hope my questions are clear despite my bad writing >.>
Thank you for this information amd I appreciate your big effort , but i have real trust issues with ROK simulator so I really don’t know if that tests are reliable 😅
So as an arch user, you just skipping the autarch? Or do you just grab a wedge? Also, thanks for this because my KVk ends soon and I was about to buy one lol
In the WW/Liu combo because of LC's expertise alot of people are opting to skip horn. Does keeping the horn on the march and it potentially being crit change anything with Destructive with higher rage generation making up for the 100 rage sacrifice?
It doesn't "make up" for the rage mitigation. That is always applied at the end of the equation. So rage cap is 220. If you proc a horn and rage to 220 (Which is good), the mitigation will then take place and you only get 120. So the horn really doesn't overcompensate.
Battle ready is basically better. I check my reports and most time i get it on my active skill weather primary or secondary got lucky to get a double with 1.5 boost to normal attack
Ive been saying destructive is rly bad for open field or passes. Its great for anti swarm scenarios. People reason out to just use horn for lack of rage. Im like no, because greatest glory is better for more flatout dmg/ dps
Over the course of a 10 minute rally it 100000000000% affects the report. 1/2 second slow every cycle. That means a full second slower every two cycles. In a 10min rally there are 85 cycles. So 42.5seconds slower. At 7 second per cycle that means that destructive gives up 6 active skill cycles per 10 minutes. That’s massive.
i refer to Cwill's assessment of destructive, which is not consistent with this assessment. th-cam.com/video/h3AydJzgLs4/w-d-xo.html the ROK battle simulator is not always correct; i've used it and it does have errors. i suggest AOO testing to really prove things out
The simulator is not always correct. But for a mechanic like rage and the mechanics that go into it, the simulator is pretty accurate. It shows the rage per turn every single time. And it is very clear that destructive mitigates the rage. In real RoK life situation, I used destructive on my Liu Che and would run head up with Guan in canyon. And more times than not, Guan would fire first and silence me. Once I took the destructive off, I never get silenced. So that is a clear indicator. Now translate into field and rallies and garrisons. Rage is pretty simple. Not complicated.
In addition, speculation is out there that the actual 70% buff from the inscription is actually just attack that affects basic attack. It isn't even normal damage.
You have 2 full 4 of 4 arch sets I fully agree destructive is the worst of all 4 L inscription The most relevant question is, is destructive the BIS inscription for that slot, or is a white better. You're clearly using 4 of 4 L inscription as opposed to swapping it for a white or double white. I'm assuming that while it's not ideal, the pros still outweigh the cons. I asked all our smite garrison leaders to pick up destructive with thier first autarchs 😮@@WarDaddyChadski
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We just received our autarchs and we were all having this exact discussion earlier today, so the timing of this is perfect for us.
Thats great to know. Everyone always puts these Legendary inscriptions at the top without knowing what they really do. Knowing this will absolutely help to set up my field marches different and focus on other inscription applications
Super useful infromation bro! I was planning on getting this one on my next KvK! Thanks again!
New favorite ROK advisor. Love your channel. You brake it down and easy to understand. Can't wait to see more❤
Love this channel way better than the other ones. You run your arms the way i do. Was watching other channels. None run calvary. Keep it up. Thanks
thanks for the info. i love this series you made about inscription
Your deeptalk about comanders pairings and arnaments so nice to watch ty for sharing your expirions with us❤
I have been playing for years and I am learning new things from you Thank you
You should do a break down like this for each formation
This video is very informative
As f2p player in kvk2 this helps a lot thanks ❤❤
Fresh RoK content. Short. Sweet and hyper specific. Winning! 😎
So glad you’re posting these videos man, really helping me learn a lot! ❤
Thanks, good info.
I want to see, even just Arch, a list of importance/priority for of each inscription slot from the codex. I have yet to get a special/rare, so I settle for +health or +defense when I get them.
Great idea
Love the armament deep dives. I’ve been micromanaging the arch armaments to often avoid Destructive, as sad as that is.
great vid , youve persuaded me to buy hunter instead for ZL, i was considering hunter or destructive as my second autarch. If even robust is better then i might as well buy that over in the kvk shop instead of destructive
Love the armament talk. I would like to see what kind of numbers are buffed for every piece on your generals and how you grind and gamed to achieve those levels.
Love the video. Also Gorgo had rage of 900. So it balances out in a garrison. But I get what you saying and it’s correct.
Regardless what the rage cap is on the commander, if it fires off it will always delay.
Ah finally, inf rally/garry content. Looks like I'll just stick to invincible and get fearless.
Power to you. 2nd video in a day. ❤😊
We need this type of contest, good job bro🎉
Destructive is even worst in field because it only buffs the basic attack dmg to the MAIN target by 70%, NOT the counter attack, NOT the smite dmg even it hit on the skill cycle. This only good when you get swarm u dealt 3.5% more normal dmg to all swarmer and also do 70% more basic attack dmg to the MAIN target. When in rally or garrison situations the white number are relatively high because of high troops count so 70% addition in that situation is fine.
This was discussed as well. That’s what it shows in the reports as well. Great catch.
Keep up armamanet videos bro I do love it. Touch on everything even regular what’s best list
Keep it up war daddy! Great content, good delivery.
Great Video!
Destructive doesn't actually give you +70% normal damage for 1 second though. It increases the damage of your next basic attack by 70%. So rather than 200 damage factor, it will deal 340 damage factor.
So it's not amazing anti-swarm, but more like extra on hit damage for back and forth fights where you can't always stay engaged long enough to fire skills.
Great vid! What do you think of Pulverize vs. Robust?
I got the rare one and got excited tbh 🤣 not a fan of that destructive one since day 1 so not needing to spend an autrach was GGs
I trust the Devs to ninja-patch the actual computation if they made the mistake of making a 'Legendary' inscription weaker than 'Special/Rare' inscription.
Whats described in the tooltip/description is inaccurate it happens all the time, and is prone to speculations. the code is the single source of truth.
Very cool a fresh look man. Great info.
Hi Chadsky. I saw this video on the day it was uploaded. I am an infantry player that plays WW/LC and Skippy/Alex. I maxed Gorgo and Hera is on the way. I have decent crit gear but not maz yet. Today is the day that I either buy Destructive from kvk shop "I got 1 day left" or buy Hunter for a future Cav or Archer march. I see all the testing you did is for Destructive alone. What happens when we put destructive with all the other special inscriptions? does the 3.5% increased normal damage from Destructive help get more overall damage from the other inscriptions?
My second question is: If the above does not work and Destructive is deficient, will robust half second early help the overall damage exceed the above along with the the other three special inscriptions? for example in the calculations you did, the damage difference between Robust and Destructive isnt big. If you had all the other special inscriptions in the rest and changed robust, destructive, etc the difference might have been alot more.
I hope my questions are clear despite my bad writing >.>
Can u do a study on greatest glory vs ring for scipio rally? Should we be using horn gg or horn ring
Can we get an armament inscription tier list with in-depth explanation next.
maybe destructive is good for shajar with arch formation? she's likely to be targeted alot on the field
Amazing video tnx Chadski
Could you do a follow up for cav wedge please? I am 9/10 in wishlist 😅
Thank you for this information amd I appreciate your big effort , but i have real trust issues with ROK simulator so I really don’t know if that tests are reliable 😅
The simulator is good for stuff like this. It’s not perfect. But helps with visualizing mechanics.
So as an arch user, you just skipping the autarch? Or do you just grab a wedge? Also, thanks for this because my KVk ends soon and I was about to buy one lol
Unfortunately I have two destructive inscriptions.
What inscription would you suggest buying from the autarch shop then?
Hunter probably the safest bet.
@@WarDaddyChadski ok thx
Please do one for wedge
I feel like you made this video because I just asked you about destructive 😂
In the WW/Liu combo because of LC's expertise alot of people are opting to skip horn. Does keeping the horn on the march and it potentially being crit change anything with Destructive with higher rage generation making up for the 100 rage sacrifice?
It doesn't "make up" for the rage mitigation. That is always applied at the end of the equation. So rage cap is 220. If you proc a horn and rage to 220 (Which is good), the mitigation will then take place and you only get 120. So the horn really doesn't overcompensate.
Battle ready is basically better. I check my reports and most time i get it on my active skill weather primary or secondary got lucky to get a double with 1.5 boost to normal attack
Battle ready and destructibe both do what chad is telling us is bad which is losing 100 rage
2 videos a day, W?
Another great vid! Very informative. Am I missing the discord link somewhere?
discord.gg/8puPsZ63VC
Ive been saying destructive is rly bad for open field or passes. Its great for anti swarm scenarios. People reason out to just use horn for lack of rage. Im like no, because greatest glory is better for more flatout dmg/ dps
CHADSKIIII. greetings from 3303 man keep up the good uploads haha ❤
Hey I’m a pure cav player and I wanted to ask what pairings you would advise me to use if I want to run 4 marches.
Huo/beli Nev/Joan. But you can use William as well for beli.
Got my first autarch recently……😶
You sound like the Rock 😮
Love the bid
Use a crit horn
It will make up the difference
Just the millisecond does not really change the report like I said gorgo rage requirements is 900
Over the course of a 10 minute rally it 100000000000% affects the report. 1/2 second slow every cycle. That means a full second slower every two cycles. In a 10min rally there are 85 cycles. So 42.5seconds slower. At 7 second per cycle that means that destructive gives up 6 active skill cycles per 10 minutes. That’s massive.
Hey bro, who would you use for 3 inf marches. I’ll use LC Alex Ragnar scpio but stuck on third
Third one may bring guan back in mix. But you can also do Wallace and Gorgo
@@WarDaddyChadski do you think Wallace Gorgo would be better then Guan Sargon ?
Let’s gooooooo
Where do I find the discord link?
will you be livestreaming kvk in the future? i enjoy watching whales play lol
Absolutely
u underestimite how much is 3,5 boost to normal dmg
Thank you daddy for telling me about all the things i did wrong ☹️
Invincible good for field? Arch Inscription.
It is good, just not as good as Fearless and Straight to the point are the best for field
@@WarDaddyChadski What about Bellicose? Is it good for Liu Che?
This is a video I wish I didn't have watched 🤣
i refer to Cwill's assessment of destructive, which is not consistent with this assessment.
th-cam.com/video/h3AydJzgLs4/w-d-xo.html
the ROK battle simulator is not always correct; i've used it and it does have errors.
i suggest AOO testing to really prove things out
The simulator is not always correct. But for a mechanic like rage and the mechanics that go into it, the simulator is pretty accurate. It shows the rage per turn every single time. And it is very clear that destructive mitigates the rage. In real RoK life situation, I used destructive on my Liu Che and would run head up with Guan in canyon. And more times than not, Guan would fire first and silence me. Once I took the destructive off, I never get silenced. So that is a clear indicator. Now translate into field and rallies and garrisons. Rage is pretty simple. Not complicated.
In addition, speculation is out there that the actual 70% buff from the inscription is actually just attack that affects basic attack. It isn't even normal damage.
You have 2 full 4 of 4 arch sets
I fully agree destructive is the worst of all 4 L inscription
The most relevant question is, is destructive the BIS inscription for that slot, or is a white better.
You're clearly using 4 of 4 L inscription as opposed to swapping it for a white or double white.
I'm assuming that while it's not ideal, the pros still outweigh the cons. I asked all our smite garrison leaders to pick up destructive with thier first autarchs 😮@@WarDaddyChadski