I think I remember reading that Thomas-Wayne-Batman and Martha-Joker are both really upset by the idea that their little boy becomes Batman because of what happened to them. (I'm not sure what they wanted for him grow up into, but apparently not that...)
@@birkinsmith88 Correct. The flashpoint comics showed that both Martha and Tomas are very much willing to sacrifice their timeline being alive so that Bruce can live. But knowing their son will become the Batman horrifies both of then still.
@@birkinsmith88 There was a conversation Thomas had with martha… It went like.. Thomas: “ I met our son, bruce.. he grows up to become like his father” Martha:” oh thank god he is okay.. he grows up to become a doctor” Thomas: *Silent* Martha:” grows up to become a doctor, right?” Thomas: *Still silent* Martha: “ohgod.. *gasps*”
Dang, you know...in Dark Knight Returns, I really didn't think that was a reference to something but man, Bruce was recalling his father in some shape or form when taking out that mutant dude. He was really digging it to 'im.
@@juanalonso7972 I don’t think he regenerates that fast. but his injuries may heal at an accelerated rate although due to the nature of most kind of cells or metabolism (scientific term I believe) there’s a limit to how fast that will go. Unless he eats and works out well his body will handle it normally then the speed force assist just a little bit that’s how he’s able to see that fast too and avoid hitting buildings.
He's a super hero conditioned to constant fighting and life threatening peril. He knows how to compartmentalize injuries even without his speed force, as he's had to survive and push through much more grievous ones before. A broken finger for him is probably an average thing with how often he punches things as hard as steel.
@@juanalonso7972 he doesn’t have his powers at this point, but being the flash he’s probably so used to being injured. You can’t fight villains for years and not build up a pain tolerance
@@dadawgdoin7467 such a kind woman that used her family fortune to run charities to help the people of Gotham. Sadly went insane after that night Bruce was taken from her and his father.
It is even understandable why Thomas is so brutal as Batman. There is a difference between an eight year old watching his parents die, and a father watching his little boy gunned down in front of him.
3:34 this line from Thomas has a lot more significance than most think. He's not asking if Bruce is alive, he's asking if he's Batman. In a comic set in the Flashpoint universe after this story, Martha (who is alive as the Joker) kills herself after finding out Bruce is Batman in the other timeline and Thomas travels to the main timeline to break Bruce's spirit so he stops being Batman in an attempt to get him to live a normal life.
@@AngraMango she asked Thomas after their scuffle if Bruce were to be alive instead of them what would be his life, Thomas said if he's still alive he won't have a normal life instead he's going to be Batman. That broke her and accidentally fell to her death.
@@christophervillanueva9257 the comic where Martha dies is Flashpoint: Batman Knight of Vengeance. The comic where Thomas tries to screw over Bruce is from Batman Volume 3 (the current dc rebirth Batman run).
There's one story where Batman travels back in time and saves his parents, even though it might erase Batman. Which creates a new timeline. A timeline where Bruce decides to copy the mysterious stranger who saved his parents, and still becomes Batman.
the voice acting is incredible. you can literally hear his voice harden in response to the momentary shock of finding out that Bruce is alive, but living his own tragedy. or the break in his voice right before when he's thinking about what his Martha has become in a world that creates monsters. These performers don't get enough credit for how they bring the characters to life.
You can tell before Thomas Wayne asks Barry what they'd need, he's seeing a glimmer of hope that he'll see his adult son so he can talk to his boy again. Even in another timeline, parents are still parents and will always worry about their kids.
It happened in the comics. The flash took bruce to that dimension. When they needed to return to their normal dimension, bruce was pleading to his father to join the flash and bruce in the cosmic treadmill, thomas rejected going in order to save the flash and bruce from a greater catastrophy or something
3:17: "You'd be amazed the monsters these world can create" Damn, looking at those cards, If you don't know, that in Thomas Wayne's Batman universe it wasn't a random serial killer that became the Joker; it was his wife, turned insane after Bruce's murder. Thus giving birth to this universe's Joker from the one he married.
That dynamic is so damn packed with potential for writers. I keep saying a Thomas Wayne Batman movie needs to be made and rated r. That way Thomas's Batman could go Punisher on villains. It would be cool to explore flashpoint from Thomas's point of view. Keep the story accurate but elaborate Thomas's story instead of the flash
you can almost sense flash hesitating before telling Thomas Wayne that Bruce is batman. he would have loved to let him take comfort in the thought of a living and happy Bruce, but he knows he cannot lie to this man, both morally and practically.
The proof was that the costume did fit in the ring and is therefore from the future, which indirectly proofs his story. You unbelievable stupid sheeps!
Man! Batman, no matter if it’s Bruce or Thomas, plays the role SO PERFECTLY and ADMIRABLY! Thomas: “What exactly would we need?” Barry: “Just what’s over there and…unbelievably bad weather.” Thomas: “Welcome To Gotham.”
Bruce lives by the code that he thought his father wanted for him, however clearly the "don't kill" one isn't part of it and just something Bruce's own mind brought up, could be so much different if he met his father like this.
I think the difference is, Thomas was a grown ass man when Bruce died, so he was able to become Batman much sooner and didnt have time to work through some of the trauma. while Bruce was just a kid who had to grow up with the pain quite awhile before donning the cape and cowl, so he had the time to dwell over it and come to the conclusion murder was off the table.
Part of Bruce’s code is to stop him from crossing the line, he’s aware that if he starts killing he won’t be able to stop himself and would eventually become just like the murderers and monsters he wants to stop.
@@Shiirow also being an adult, Thomas didn't get a trauma for guns like Bruce did who saw one take his parents from him at 8 years old...and instead used them as a tool for his revenge against criminals...
I would have much less fucks to give if my child died, as opposed to my parents. I love my parents very much but the thought of losing my child is incomprehensible. So I get why this Batman has a significantly different set of ethics.
@@Stormyano I mean it makes sense your parents lived full lives and they had you...your child had their entire life taken away from them before they had a chance to live...
@@Chris-ni2pc Hey TH-cam, whenever you shadowban one of my comments, let me know beforehand so I don't waste my time. Thanks. Thomas is an alcoholic who definitely uses performance enhancing drugs to keep up his Batman life. Bruce would absolutely destroy him in a fair fight.
It’s insane they didn’t copy this movie for the live action flash movie. All they had to do was copy it shot for shot. They had all the actors still under contract. Would’ve been the easiest thing to do
Barry went through so much worse physical pain than broken finger and punch to the stomach and face. Besides that literally not even important vs “need to convince psycho Batman I’m a hero and that I need his help!”
Simply put, we need more of Thomas Wayne Batman. What immediately comes to mind is the fight and brutal interrogation of Yo-Yo earlier in the movie. That scene still scares me 10 years later, I can feel her fear through the screen.
He's basically The Punisher and Batman combined. It'd be awesome if we got a series based on his own timeline. It'd even be interesting to see a crossover where he and Bruce not only meet but have to solve a case together... You could imagine the conflict in the story as they may disagree with each other's methods. Or even one where he meets Thomas Wayne Jr's Owlman. It's cool to think about.
I have good news, we got more stuff about Batman this Batman and he even met Bruce Wayne and interacted with him for a whole arc! However, those good news quickly turns into some terrible, TERRIBLE news the more you read that comic.
"My ring! Let me prove to you that I'm telling the truth!" Barry, that wouldn't prove anything in your story, it would just prove that you have a special ring. "I came from another universe where your son is still alive." Wouldn't even make it into the top 100 reasons of why you might have a ring like that.
I mean, he’s claiming to be a superhero. Even if he can’t prove he comes from another universe, proving he’s a superhero will establish part of his story as true. It’s not perfect, but it does build SOME credibility.
@@thedemonhater7748 A weird ring, with a suit in it, does not prove you're a superhero. You're in world full of weird shit, you happen to be in possession of a piece of weird shit. So far the most convincing thing about Barry's story is the fact that he found the cave.
I watched this movie years ago, and started recently watching Grey's Anatomy. It's so weird to hear see that Alex and Owen from Grey's played Barry and Thomas Wayne in this movie! I'm so mindblown right now
This is probably the best DC Animation ever made and the reason I can't be bothered going to the Cinema to watch the Live Action version, it can't be topped.
The new Flash movie is pretty weird. Keaton Batman returns and is flirty with Wonder Woman for some reason. No offense to Keaton Batman in the 90s or Batfleck, but I want Batfleck over this new cringey Batman.
@@4_xk Battfleck is the ultimate Batman in the DC universe that no one can top after that warehouse scene. Snyder cut made it even more bad ass. What could've been if the DCU wasn't cut
Bruce lost his childhood the moment he saw his parents die, Thomas lost his ability to become a doctor the moment he saw his son die. He's become too bitter and cynical to want to uphold the Hippocratic oath he swore, and it doesn't help that his wife lost her sanity and became his arch-nemesis. Origin wise, it's DC's answer to Doctor Strange: both suffered a great loss that cost them the ability to continue medicine, and became superheroes as another calling.
Thomas Wayne Batman loses his heart while Martha Wayne loses her mind That's why it was better for Bruce to survive that alleyway. For as cold as he can get, he never lost his heart or his mind. He just refuses to be happy.
Anyone who needs the context, in the Flashpoint timeline after Bruce was murdered, while Thomas went on to become the Batman, Martha, Bruce's mom, snapped and went on to become the Joker. That's the reason for the 3:10 moment.
This scene always reminds me of a scene from The Big Bang Theory where The Flash is talking to Sheldon about how even super heroes use performance enhancing drugs, and he said "How do you think Batman dresses up as a bat and goes out to fight people? Scotch!!!!". He was probably talking about Thomas Wayne Batman 😂😂😂
The whole (Bat) Wayne Family The father: Thomas Wayne. Sr(Batman) The mother: Martha Wayne (Joker) The eldest son: Thomas Wayne. Jr (Owlman), The Youngest son: Bruce Wayne (Batman), The adoptive Grandsons: Dick Grayson (Nightwing) and Tim Drake (Red Robin) The youngest member: Damian Wayne
idk about the timing as DC movies have been sucking and i like DC. always been a Batman/Superman guy even when i was a kid. my dad was a Flash/Superman/Green Lantern guy lol
@@Soldier979 just saying DC has more masterpieces than marvel. the dark knight trilogy, joker, v for vendetta, and watchmen. besides logan marvel doesnt really have a single live action movie thats on par with DC's best. marvel has many good movies. they have a few great movies. they don't really have many masterpieces and the vast majority of those arent part of the MCU (logan, spiderman 2, deadpool 1 and 2, and infinity war)
They are taking some of the storyline from this movie into the new flash movie coming out.. as much as I love Michael Keaton Batman, I'd have loved to see Jeffrey Dean Morgan reprise his role as Thomas Wayne and suit up for Batman, he's perfect for it.. As for Michael Keaton Batman, i would like to see him be the old Bruce Wayne from Batman beyond at some point too.
Forget the Batman Who Laughs, we got the Batman Who Drinks
Nah more like the batman who shoots
@@Giorgos906and kill
😅😅😅😅😅
500
The Batman Dark metal series was sick. All your fantasies, but if written by the Joker.
-"You're his father. You are Thomas Wayne!"
-"In your reality, is my son...
-"Bruce is alive. He is... Batman!"
Those vibes....
I think I remember reading that Thomas-Wayne-Batman and Martha-Joker are both really upset by the idea that their little boy becomes Batman because of what happened to them.
(I'm not sure what they wanted for him grow up into, but apparently not that...)
@@birkinsmith88
Correct. The flashpoint comics showed that both Martha and Tomas are very much willing to sacrifice their timeline being alive so that Bruce can live.
But knowing their son will become the Batman horrifies both of then still.
@@birkinsmith88 they want their son to have a normal life and normal family. Not Batman.
Thomas himself said that specifically.
@@ReigoVassalat least he was a good Batman who built himself a new family and gave hope to others from the shadows.
There's pride to be taken there.
@@birkinsmith88
There was a conversation Thomas had with martha…
It went like..
Thomas: “ I met our son, bruce.. he grows up to become like his father”
Martha:” oh thank god he is okay.. he grows up to become a doctor”
Thomas: *Silent*
Martha:” grows up to become a doctor, right?”
Thomas: *Still silent*
Martha: “ohgod.. *gasps*”
This is the one Batman who if he said: "this is an operating table. And I am the surgeon.", he actually means it.
The Dark Knight Returns.
LMAO
Dang, you know...in Dark Knight Returns, I really didn't think that was a reference to something but man, Bruce was recalling his father in some shape or form when taking out that mutant dude. He was really digging it to 'im.
I really hope one day this Flashpoint Batman says that line especially fighting Bane, Deathstroke or even the Mutant Leader from TDKR
all batmen mean this, they're batman after all
He's far too calm for someone who had their finger broken seconds ago.
Well he is the flash probably regeneration already setting in
@@juanalonso7972 I don’t think he regenerates that fast. but his injuries may heal at an accelerated rate although due to the nature of most kind of cells or metabolism (scientific term I believe) there’s a limit to how fast that will go. Unless he eats and works out well his body will handle it normally then the speed force assist just a little bit that’s how he’s able to see that fast too and avoid hitting buildings.
He's a super hero conditioned to constant fighting and life threatening peril. He knows how to compartmentalize injuries even without his speed force, as he's had to survive and push through much more grievous ones before.
A broken finger for him is probably an average thing with how often he punches things as hard as steel.
Flash has always been nice and down to earth
@@juanalonso7972 he doesn’t have his powers at this point, but being the flash he’s probably so used to being injured. You can’t fight villains for years and not build up a pain tolerance
I love the idea of Thomas becoming Batman if Bruce had died instead.
It sucks that Martha Wayne became Joker instead.
@@dadawgdoin7467 such a kind woman that used her family fortune to run charities to help the people of Gotham. Sadly went insane after that night Bruce was taken from her and his father.
It is even understandable why Thomas is so brutal as Batman.
There is a difference between an eight year old watching his parents die, and a father watching his little boy gunned down in front of him.
@@MetroXLR no parent should have to bury their child. That's a fate worse than death.
@@slanetroyard92 I think you should always bury dead people.
No matter who dies in a timeline…do a Wayne wrong, the darkness shall rise
Imagine if Martha Wayne became Batwoman in a timeline where both Bruce & Thomas died in Crime Alley and she survived.
@@omarcogle1965 she'd become joker like in this movie.
@@toragic3432 Not if it's from a different universe though.
All because the waynes just have to go down that damn alley way
By the power of plot armor, yeah. Batman always prevail.
Fathers who have lost their children are the most terrifying people you do not want to come across. Ever.
Yeah look out
Are you saying we should not sympathize them?
So are mothers. Just look at what happened to Martha.
@@areaxisthegurkhathey're literslly saying the opposite lol
😮😮😮
"You'd be amazed the monsters this world could create" Dang that hit me deep 🥺
That's because half of the world is chaos and destruction.
@@josueflores6455 Because his wife is joker
that's insight into our real world. humanity's history has been full of monsters.
@@BLaCkKsHeEp And not just that, those who also fight monsters wind up becoming the monster.
@@omarcogle1965 unless they can control their monstrosity
2:24 “what kind of name is eobard” HAHAHAHA
The 25th century kind
yet thong wasnt weird.
@@anthonymolina4982 thawne*
@@anthonymolina4982 *Wong 🗿
Plus, Barry has a evil brother named Malcolm Thawne who is also, Eobard’s Great x10 Greatfather
3:34 this line from Thomas has a lot more significance than most think. He's not asking if Bruce is alive, he's asking if he's Batman. In a comic set in the Flashpoint universe after this story, Martha (who is alive as the Joker) kills herself after finding out Bruce is Batman in the other timeline and Thomas travels to the main timeline to break Bruce's spirit so he stops being Batman in an attempt to get him to live a normal life.
Damn never knew that
Why why does martha decide to nope out?
@@AngraMango she asked Thomas after their scuffle if Bruce were to be alive instead of them what would be his life, Thomas said if he's still alive he won't have a normal life instead he's going to be Batman. That broke her and accidentally fell to her death.
You got my attention, what's the name of the comic?
@@christophervillanueva9257 the comic where Martha dies is Flashpoint: Batman Knight of Vengeance. The comic where Thomas tries to screw over Bruce is from Batman Volume 3 (the current dc rebirth Batman run).
So in other words, Batman was inevitable.
There's one story where Batman travels back in time and saves his parents, even though it might erase Batman. Which creates a new timeline. A timeline where Bruce decides to copy the mysterious stranger who saved his parents, and still becomes Batman.
@@EGRJ interesting, I never knew about that.
Alex Karen & Owen Hunt in animated Justice League film together.
Unless they all died
Pretty certain the name of the TH-cam channel ""Bat in the sun"" is a direct reference to this Thomas Wayne , , ,👍
the voice acting is incredible. you can literally hear his voice harden in response to the momentary shock of finding out that Bruce is alive, but living his own tragedy. or the break in his voice right before when he's thinking about what his Martha has become in a world that creates monsters. These performers don't get enough credit for how they bring the characters to life.
I'm surprised nobody ese noticed that, he does that serious side glance because he's sad to learn Bruce befalls the same path he does if he dies.
Kevin McKidd for you
0:30-0:32 With his detective skills, Batman is definitely the James Bond of superheroes.
lol james bond isn't a detective at all.
@Gadget-Walkmen but he's is the best of all heroes.
@@josueflores6455 Who? Batman or bond?
@@Gadget-Walkmen bond.
@@josueflores6455 I would say that Batman is a better hero than bond, truly.
You can tell before Thomas Wayne asks Barry what they'd need, he's seeing a glimmer of hope that he'll see his adult son so he can talk to his boy again. Even in another timeline, parents are still parents and will always worry about their kids.
It happened in the comics. The flash took bruce to that dimension. When they needed to return to their normal dimension, bruce was pleading to his father to join the flash and bruce in the cosmic treadmill, thomas rejected going in order to save the flash and bruce from a greater catastrophy or something
3:17: "You'd be amazed the monsters these world can create" Damn, looking at those cards, If you don't know, that in Thomas Wayne's Batman universe it wasn't a random serial killer that became the Joker; it was his wife, turned insane after Bruce's murder. Thus giving birth to this universe's Joker from the one he married.
That dynamic is so damn packed with potential for writers. I keep saying a Thomas Wayne Batman movie needs to be made and rated r. That way Thomas's Batman could go Punisher on villains. It would be cool to explore flashpoint from Thomas's point of view. Keep the story accurate but elaborate Thomas's story instead of the flash
Damnnn...😭😭
What comic says that ?
you can almost sense flash hesitating before telling Thomas Wayne that Bruce is batman. he would have loved to let him take comfort in the thought of a living and happy Bruce, but he knows he cannot lie to this man, both morally and practically.
Bruce got his brains from his father. Thomas would know Flash is lying.
"Let me show my costume to prove to you I'm telling the truth"
Super villains wear costumes too
Literally a super villain costume.
The proof was that the costume did fit in the ring and is therefore from the future, which indirectly proofs his story.
You unbelievable stupid sheeps!
That’s not why he did it. He did it to show Thomas that he ain’t lying about him being from a different timeline and a hero named the flash
Also, he vibrated the suit back to his original Flash colors
@@KingShibeif I remember right, zoom did the same thing
Man! Batman, no matter if it’s Bruce or Thomas, plays the role SO PERFECTLY and ADMIRABLY!
Thomas: “What exactly would we need?”
Barry: “Just what’s over there and…unbelievably bad weather.”
Thomas: “Welcome To Gotham.”
That Batman definitely doesn't laugh 😮
You know these are animated and not real actors..
@@muzosh VAs can still do a role perfectly
Bruce lives by the code that he thought his father wanted for him, however clearly the "don't kill" one isn't part of it and just something Bruce's own mind brought up, could be so much different if he met his father like this.
I think the difference is, Thomas was a grown ass man when Bruce died, so he was able to become Batman much sooner and didnt have time to work through some of the trauma. while Bruce was just a kid who had to grow up with the pain quite awhile before donning the cape and cowl, so he had the time to dwell over it and come to the conclusion murder was off the table.
Part of Bruce’s code is to stop him from crossing the line, he’s aware that if he starts killing he won’t be able to stop himself and would eventually become just like the murderers and monsters he wants to stop.
@@Shiirow also being an adult, Thomas didn't get a trauma for guns like Bruce did who saw one take his parents from him at 8 years old...and instead used them as a tool for his revenge against criminals...
I would have much less fucks to give if my child died, as opposed to my parents. I love my parents very much but the thought of losing my child is incomprehensible. So I get why this Batman has a significantly different set of ethics.
@@Stormyano I mean it makes sense your parents lived full lives and they had you...your child had their entire life taken away from them before they had a chance to live...
"Mention my dead son again and I will break out my surgical instruments."
The pain concealed behind those words... gets me everytime.
I really hope Thomas meets Bruce’s Batman in this movie.
He doesn’t. He sends him a letter though
@@BlueRazor69 The writers kind of missed an opportunity in my opinion. They met in the comics.
@@harrypothead5897 right in the movie that doesn’t happen
The movies ab flash so no they didn't do that but he sent a letter
They dont
So nobody gonna talk about the way flash ate that punch to the back of the head
He is a superhuman after all
@@Asamio Not at this point, he lost his powers
When you realise that Bruce's mom, Martha Wayne became The joker un this universe.
Man, if the real batman was this juiced up i think he would have alot less enemies wanting a piece of him
He still cleans out GOTHAM regardless
Thomas is definitely taking performance drugs to combat his alcoholism. His body is so messed up Bruce should wipe him out in a direct fight.
@@concept5631Bruce can't be defeated, his brainless and valueless worshippers would cry like babies.
he is, but the real Batman is holding back and not showing his true potential
@@Chris-ni2pc Hey TH-cam, whenever you shadowban one of my comments, let me know beforehand so I don't waste my time. Thanks.
Thomas is an alcoholic who definitely uses performance enhancing drugs to keep up his Batman life. Bruce would absolutely destroy him in a fair fight.
I love how Bruce did it so big even his pops couldn’t keep up with the ballin. “Batplane?” 😂
I want a live-action version of this Batman so bad.
It’s insane they didn’t copy this movie for the live action flash movie. All they had to do was copy it shot for shot. They had all the actors still under contract. Would’ve been the easiest thing to do
Thomas: Keep my son's name outcho FUCKIN'! MOUTH!
Bruce. Why did you say that name?!?!?!?!
HIS SON ITS HIS SON NAME...
Wait....
Here we go again 🥲
😂😂
The look on Barry’s eyes when he realized it was Thomas Wayne was crazy he’s like woah OH MY GOD YOURE THOMAS WAYNE! 😮
3:01 those eyes narrowing was the epitome of "Oh. I see what kind of bs is going on here now."
Thomas is the literal stereotype of Batman beating your ass to the point you need life support all because you stole some fruits 💀
what always cracks me up about this scene is how Thomas' ass beating didn't even phase Barry lol.
he's probably used to being ass beaten and built a high endurance to pain as the flash due to his speedy healing factor
Barry went through so much worse physical pain than broken finger and punch to the stomach and face. Besides that literally not even important vs “need to convince psycho Batman I’m a hero and that I need his help!”
“You were the James Bond of super hero’s”
Why did I laugh😂
Thomas was probably thinking “man I just wanted to break all your fingers, this lightning strike chemicals thing seems a little excessive”
This is what the live action Flash movie was missing
Live action flash movie sucks
Thomas Wayne is voiced by Soap MacTavish in this movie.
"What the hell kinda name is Eobard, eh?"
@@Bazinguh Soap trusted you. I thought I could too. So, why in bloody hell, do you know Bruce?!
Now i hear it and makes it even better
Simply put, we need more of Thomas Wayne Batman.
What immediately comes to mind is the fight and brutal interrogation of Yo-Yo earlier in the movie. That scene still scares me 10 years later, I can feel her fear through the screen.
He's basically The Punisher and Batman combined.
It'd be awesome if we got a series based on his own timeline.
It'd even be interesting to see a crossover where he and Bruce not only meet but have to solve a case together... You could imagine the conflict in the story as they may disagree with each other's methods.
Or even one where he meets Thomas Wayne Jr's Owlman.
It's cool to think about.
I have good news, we got more stuff about Batman this Batman and he even met Bruce Wayne and interacted with him for a whole arc! However, those good news quickly turns into some terrible, TERRIBLE news the more you read that comic.
I like the idea no matter who died in that alley, Batman always lives
That alleyway is his birthplace. Death of a loved one is what makes him.
"Bruce is dead, I watched him die...!"
"My god, HE'S the one who died that night in the alley!"
3:00 Still gives me chills, if BATMAN describes you as being this crazy… that’s terrifying frfr.
Ben Affleck should have played this batman....would have been a great way to introduce the dc world
No
I think flashpoint was the movie that Snyder should have directed rather than man of steel.
In 10 years or so he could do this if they ever give flashpoint another go (which this is comics we’re talking about so of course they will)
No. Jeffery Dean Morgan only.
What about Michael Keaton
Imagine this batman get a live action and met batman Ben Affleck
Would be terrible. DC needs to stop with the live action bs. Their casting is beyond terrible.
@@Lil_Santa_2001 Michael Keaton can't be too bad to play this batman.
@@coachl4d152 nah, let’s not ruin Flashpoint Batman with this live action bs. They already ruined the main DC Characters enough.
He'd be disgusted Bruce turnex into a criminal killer like him.
I love Christian’s bales Batman
"My ring! Let me prove to you that I'm telling the truth!"
Barry, that wouldn't prove anything in your story, it would just prove that you have a special ring. "I came from another universe where your son is still alive." Wouldn't even make it into the top 100 reasons of why you might have a ring like that.
I mean, he’s claiming to be a superhero. Even if he can’t prove he comes from another universe, proving he’s a superhero will establish part of his story as true. It’s not perfect, but it does build SOME credibility.
@@thedemonhater7748 A weird ring, with a suit in it, does not prove you're a superhero. You're in world full of weird shit, you happen to be in possession of a piece of weird shit. So far the most convincing thing about Barry's story is the fact that he found the cave.
I was half expecting Thomas Wayne to resume punching him after seeing the Reverse Flash costume.
@@hardgay7537 well considering this is a reality that never had a Flash OR Reverse Flash, I guess he saw no reason to hit him either way
@@hardgay7537That would be a funny ytp.
My man thomas be punching first and asking questions later
This was good!
Needed a show with this intensity
Damn, Batman always deep with his quotes. No matter the timeline!
When Thomas and Bruce Met
Bruce: Father, I'm the Batman
Thomas: No, I'm the Batman
Thomas Wayne’s Batman is pretty Much Marvels Punihser he has no problem cappin you with a glock lmao
I watched this movie years ago, and started recently watching Grey's Anatomy. It's so weird to hear see that Alex and Owen from Grey's played Barry and Thomas Wayne in this movie! I'm so mindblown right now
Thomas : "Not what you were expecting?"
Barry: "No. THONG!"
I love how the first thing Thomas asked about the mentioning of the Reverse Flash is "What kind of name is Eobard?"
This is probably the best DC Animation ever made and the reason I can't be bothered going to the Cinema to watch the Live Action version, it can't be topped.
The new Flash movie is pretty weird. Keaton Batman returns and is flirty with Wonder Woman for some reason. No offense to Keaton Batman in the 90s or Batfleck, but I want Batfleck over this new cringey Batman.
@@4_xk Battfleck is the ultimate Batman in the DC universe that no one can top after that warehouse scene. Snyder cut made it even more bad ass. What could've been if the DCU wasn't cut
@@galslovveme Ah yes, a Batman *who kills people* with no remorse is the perfect Batman.
Bruce lost his childhood the moment he saw his parents die, Thomas lost his ability to become a doctor the moment he saw his son die. He's become too bitter and cynical to want to uphold the Hippocratic oath he swore, and it doesn't help that his wife lost her sanity and became his arch-nemesis. Origin wise, it's DC's answer to Doctor Strange: both suffered a great loss that cost them the ability to continue medicine, and became superheroes as another calling.
Thomas Wayne Batman loses his heart while Martha Wayne loses her mind
That's why it was better for Bruce to survive that alleyway. For as cold as he can get, he never lost his heart or his mind. He just refuses to be happy.
This is truly great, something remarkable and the latest flash movie couldn’t replicate this
As crude as he was, this is one Batman who has zero fuck left to give. Crazy cool on his own way.
3:17 in case anyone is wondering
(If my memory serves right)
Bat dad became Batman and his mother became the joker
There's a reason why that never came to pass ... cause then I'd be elon
yep. she became the Joker
2:15 "Thong" is probably what Thomas heard. That'll have interesting effects.
I heard of Thong as well😂
I love this version of Batman. The writing in this movie was incredible.
Anyone who needs the context, in the Flashpoint timeline after Bruce was murdered, while Thomas went on to become the Batman, Martha, Bruce's mom, snapped and went on to become the Joker. That's the reason for the 3:10 moment.
Different timelines, but Bruce and Thomas carried the same soul destroying pain that plunged them into the darkness. 🦇
Why is he built like a mountain
Why not?
Why does everyone have a problem with muscular men on TV these days?
He's old you know
According to this batman thomas wayne lore, combat medic turned doctor, then he become batman after bruce died
naturally big man i guess with muscles and an armored suit
@@teddybeer6206 I don't. It's just his muscles look so massive
This scene always reminds me of a scene from The Big Bang Theory where The Flash is talking to Sheldon about how even super heroes use performance enhancing drugs, and he said "How do you think Batman dresses up as a bat and goes out to fight people? Scotch!!!!".
He was probably talking about Thomas Wayne Batman 😂😂😂
Here's a fun fact: This Thomas Wayne beat Joe Chill to death with his bare hands later on.
If we had a batverse movie Terry would of met Thomas wayne
The Batverse and The Jokerverse are actually real in dc comics as two multiverses
@@Greatworldofficial we should of had a Batverse movie instead spiderverse plus Batverse would of been better
This is the real Flash point
Thomas Wayne is very brutal
He watched his only child die. It's very easy to understand why he's so brutal.
OMG he looks more terrifying than batman himself
The whole (Bat) Wayne Family
The father: Thomas Wayne. Sr(Batman)
The mother: Martha Wayne (Joker)
The eldest son: Thomas Wayne. Jr (Owlman),
The Youngest son: Bruce Wayne (Batman),
The adoptive Grandsons: Dick Grayson (Nightwing) and Tim Drake (Red Robin)
The youngest member: Damian Wayne
"What a lovely family"
- Captain Price
Jason Todd (Red Hood): I'm a joke to you
Ace: *Sad dog noise*
What fucked up family lmfao.
Gotham be sounding like the UK with that weather
FlashPoint really scares me bad
It's actually my favorite DC animated movie
The flash can easily snap his fingers back into place and regenerate. Hes not Wolverine or Deadpool but he can heal much more quickly
He doesn’t have powers in this scene. But the reason he can take broken fingers is because he’s broken everything before so he can take the pain
Fucking phenomenal movie! Wayy better than anything the MCU has cooked up. Thank God DC has their animated movies! 💕💞🥰😘
MCU has created a ton of movies just as good as this one. Both dc and marvel are great
What is the movie name
Nvm I just saw what the name is lol
Dude, that was uncalled for. Just because DC makes great animated movies doesn't mean you need to dunk on the MCU...
Dc make the best animated series and animated movie, while mcu make a great live action movie.
0:23 Is there really a product out there being sold in a box labeled "C4 Explosives"?
Not a ‘product’ tho is just a simplified rendition of a regular c4 container
the mix is great but the audio engineer absolutely tarnished the panning
Grumpiness runs in the Wayne family
My left ear really liked this
"What do we need?"
-"just what's over there"
Well that was super easy, barely an inconvenience.
the "welcome to gotham" is hilarious
"what kinda name is eobard" that shit had me on the floor there😂
1:09 that shot reminds me of a panel from berserk with guts
This movie is so damn good.
Need a live action movie based on this🔥
idk about the timing as DC movies have been sucking and i like DC. always been a Batman/Superman guy even when i was a kid. my dad was a Flash/Superman/Green Lantern guy lol
DC live movies usually suck. Their cartoons are good tho
@@Soldier979 just saying DC has more masterpieces than marvel. the dark knight trilogy, joker, v for vendetta, and watchmen. besides logan marvel doesnt really have a single live action movie thats on par with DC's best. marvel has many good movies. they have a few great movies. they don't really have many masterpieces and the vast majority of those arent part of the MCU (logan, spiderman 2, deadpool 1 and 2, and infinity war)
Jeffery Dean Morgan as Thomas Wayne 🔥
@chrisnygonzo121809 Thats whats tragic about it - its this story, but with all the things that made it good removed.
"Welcome to Gotham"
Poking fun about how it's never good in Gotham
If Thomas Wayne is Batman, and Martha Wayne is The Joker, since Bruce died, what happened to Alfred? 🤨
I think Thomas Wayne fired Alfred after Bruce died.
Barry:Could Anyone Even Thawne Be That Derange?
They are taking some of the storyline from this movie into the new flash movie coming out.. as much as I love Michael Keaton Batman, I'd have loved to see Jeffrey Dean Morgan reprise his role as Thomas Wayne and suit up for Batman, he's perfect for it..
As for Michael Keaton Batman, i would like to see him be the old Bruce Wayne from Batman beyond at some point too.
Warner Bros was so busy trying to copy No Way Home success that they ruined the whole Batman arc in the Flash movie.
2:20 what kind of name is eobard 😂😂😂😂
The 25th century kind
0:35 Batman (Thomas Wayne) punches Barry Allen 👊
we need a mini-series about this Batman
I can't wait to see Michael Keaton play this version of Batman
Going into Thomas wayne batcave screaming bruce's name... that is dangerous...
I didn't see this twist coming when I first watch this
bruce died and thomas and martha lived.
All the sound is in the left headphone piece
Ahhhhhh fuck I love Thomas Wayne Alcoholic Batman.
I can't be the only one that hears 'Thong' instead of 'Thawne'
Can someone explain why they didn't bring this Batman in the live action film 🤦♂️
Wayne always have that aggressiveness.
What happened to Alfred in this timeline BTW?
Martha (Joker) killed him.
I could be wrong but I heard that he became Martha's harley
@@aimsanimations2905 Isn't this reality Harley is named Yoyo?
@@VermillionStallion I have no idea I’m going off of what I heard
Alfred became the flash in this timeline, but at his age he could only use the speed force to run like a normal 15 year old kid.