nice nice nice!!!!......puts it in just ah little more perspective for me....lets face it, WE ALL want to scrub and whip and this content make me feel slightly safer now! Thanks AJ and Coach James!!!!!....more please!!!!
This was the best whip video yet. Especially because it’s with a good rider who can’t whip but can clearly ride excellent and scrub. Great info as to let the bike go let it do the whip. You do the hip. The bike does the whip. I feel confident to try this.
i've been riding since i was 3 and whipping started doing little turns of the handle bars and thinking that was cool. It really is an evolution of feel. I'm a body builder now and i can compare whipping to mind muscle connection. When lifting I can target the exact muscle I want to hit because I can feel it and know exactly what it should feel like. Very similar to whipping. The hardest part when I was learning to whip was the lean. You just have to keep increasing ur lean off the face by small incraments because if u do too much when ur not prepared to handle it in the air it can be a big crash. Once you get it though it's a feeling like no other.
Dude, that tip with the actual speed coming up to the jump is the last thing I needed. I have been trying to get the bike to float out while still having the "scrub approach". The bike has zero tilt in the air but goes sideways lmao. I have been enlightened.
About to turn 35, essentially been riding for about 5 years (4 on, 3 year gap, then back on a year ago) and man I'd kill to be able to whip even to the level of this guy at the beginning of the vid. I'm so nervous to do anything optional in the air, other than panic rev. But brake taps or leaning or turning in the air is all uncharted territory for me, trying to avoid injury. But no pain no gain.
the whip is all about getting out of the way of the bikes natural rebound, by leaning it over slightly on the jump face. the rebound then takes the rear wheel away to the side and up while the rest of the bike does not get the effect of that rebound power like it normally would. the rest of it is more about how a gyro works than anything. if you change the direction of a gyro it will apply a near equal force back to you at another angle. for example, hold a 9" wheel grinder at full speed then turn it one way. it will react by twisting another way. the gyro of your wheels keep your bike stable, but when you upset that gyro momentum it will react. upsetting it just before your leaving the ground is the entire key. you also need to let it finish reacting to this "upset" before you make another input, otherwise the bike will freeze its twisting motion in the air, and the memory of the gyro to properly return back to where it was, will be erased. for those who have always worried about not getting the bike to come back straight... this is why AJ says the "timing" has to come naturally. the amount of lean on the jump face and the timing of how much and how fast it leans, decides the twisting arc of the entire whip effect, or when the gyro will finish reacting. thus the "timing" needs to match the length and height of the jump. this way when you nudge it back the gyro has finished its reacting and is ready to be directed again. this again is why its all about the combo of timing to accompany the gyros action to last precisely the length of the jump before you land. if the bike comes back to soon, you may wreck just as easily as if the bike comes back too late. if this "timing" does not come naturally to you, then you are not ready to try a whip. it is too dangerous to do so until you can feel the amount of whip needed for each and every type of jump. if it feels scary, don't do it, cuz you may lock up in the air and land sideways. during the "gyro cycle" of the whip, the bike needs to not feel any inputs from you. if you want to easily learn a whip, make a jump ramp up a big bank that is so steep you nearly come to a stop at the apex. then make the landing to be way up there at the top of the apex/arc. at this point your going so slow, you can land half sideways and not get hurt. flying up the face of a big tall bank then landing on the very top, is a great way to practice a whip safely. have fun.
Best video on whipping tho AJ. Keep up the great progress. Ur killing it. Maybe one day you will sponser my dirtbike brand. Never know. Only reach highs, never reach limits
It’s all about the lean. I can’t “whip” and I know for a fact it’s because I’m afraid of leaning off the face of jumps. Doesn’t feel natural to me for some reason
I understand the physics and body positioning of a whip but to commit to it is a scary feel as the same with seat bouncing. It's seems such a big body movement from a scrub which I think is the reason people are so scared to try but before I die I will learn to whip a bike 😂
What is easier/better to teach and learn first ? Scrubbing or whipping? And does learning one can lead you to the next one smoother or easier ? Awesome video. Thanks
I wanna learn but my biggest fear is the bike not returning and absolutely murking myself😂 i ride pitbikes more than anything and race on the track pretty competitively. I need to transfer all of it onto a big bike whenever i can afford one
Hard to learn whips on fast jumps, because you want to be hard on the throttle going up the jump face and turning. It's so much easier on a slow poppy jump to whip. High speed jumps are a lot easier to scrub imo.
Does it make sense to point the front end down more in the air or is that more for a scrub? Looked like your whip was more nose down and James was more level. Just my observation. Thanks!
A... to look cool in photos. B... to turn in the air when the track does not line up with the jump face. C... for faster lap times, because the whip creates an air brake and you slow down in the air more, which gets you back to the ground so you can get on the gas again. it gets you over the jump so you land at the same place, but you took off with a greater ground speed then if not doing a whip. but a scrub does all of this to a greater degree. D... a whip can help you set up for a steep down-ramp approach angle and helps keep your rear wheel from catching on the top lip of a jump.
So I’m 25 years old, and have had little to 0 experience on dirt bikes, but I now have a 04 yamaha 225 and am trying to get the hang of riding it, I literally cannot understand turning, I feel like I’m over thinking it but it’s feels so unnatural after having ridden street bikes, any advice for a novice?
...as in turning through an MX track berm turn? or just the way the bars counter-steer in general? if you come from street bikes, you may find that you will push the front end out and fall over to the inside. this is from leaning inward too much for the speed your going while not having a berm. in the softer dirt, when going slower then the speed it takes to G-force into the rut or berm (like a slot car does on a high banked turn), you must lean/lay the bike down more than on a street bike. so for normal, slower flat-track type turning, keep your body more upright and let the bike fall over more under you. this will be a safer way to practice, cuz you can catch a fall with your leg, as a fall will only happen if the back tire slips out. you will be sitting way forward so that the front tire always gets more grip than the rear. this will build your confidence. it works on about any traction surface because the bike is so much lighter than your street bike. if it falls in/over too much, steer into the turn harder and the bike will stand up more. when your done turning, just turn back the other way and the bike will stand back up. you don't have to follow the bike with your body like a street bike. it can swap left and right under you while you just sit there. this swapping action will be much faster than on a street bike but be ok. test the limits to find out what this lighter, safer bike will do. do not think about the counter-steer effect. if you do, you will wobble back and forth and get into a headshake situation. counter-steer comes naturally when you want to turn. you're doing it on your street bike without thinking, so just think about turning the way you want and let your muscle memory worry about the counter steer. find a riding area with even traction about like the wet sand of a beach, and practice all kinds of turns in 2nd gear. try knifing the bike left and right in and out of turns, to feel how you can safely use the front wheel to quickly change directions. for this type of practice, if you don't feel the fork diving as you cut the other way, your going too slow. gradually get faster at figure 8's and circles, then try 3rd gear while making bigger arcs. you will start to feel the G-force pulling you into the seat like your street bike did. it just takes time to learn the types of dirt, sand or gravel and what the limits are. try single track trail riding and simply don't think about the turning part. this will help you tune out the confusion. avoid rutty trails till you get better. have fun and before long your turning questions will fade away. tire pressure is key for turning and traction. run about 11psi in the rear and 13 psi in the front. softer compound tires need more air.
th-cam.com/video/JGWDhpGY3hc/w-d-xo.html From my experience in riding road and dirt for the last 45+yrs ... and I still don't know a damn thing... is most street riders sit waaaay too much and are too far back on the seat in corners. Tons of corner vids out there. Have fun and welcome to the better half of motorcycling.
AJ, it seems you lean on the face of the jump much more than your trainee Also, I'm I wrong to say that if on the whip here, with the back going left, you turn left, on a scrub you would turn right?
Great jumps. AJ did go a bit farther though. Keep it up. Love the channel. Also, what weight are you? I’m about 175ish + is a 125 or a 250 two stroke better to start back up? Haven’t ridden for 10 years and was on four strokes before. Mostly 250f.
th-cam.com/video/cr7NV0wplIc/w-d-xo.html AJ you don't do a bad job explaining but Ricky does it better and the video angles are so much better especially with the use of slow-mo. Not hating on you but RC's vid is better imo.
For me I learned to whip good on big tables that are immediately after a corner. Because you’re hard on the gas just to clear it and carving up the face naturally,sitting down and all that good stuff lol. And because there’s usually tons of hot moms at the track hahahah It’s amazing how much better you do stuff when there’s girls watching 😉
Dag nabbitt, I thought I was whippin the last ten years. Back to the drawin board. All AJ seems to do is point out how shitty I actually ride (that's because proper technique and positioning are way harder than it looks, so I'm not good at it).
Another great vid! I’m 48 and this is a goal I’m chasin! Started riding at 45. It’s gonna happen! 😂
look for my longer post on how to learn the whip... dreams are free but they can happen!
Get after it bud!!
Same bro!! Right there with you
nice nice nice!!!!......puts it in just ah little more perspective for me....lets face it, WE ALL want to scrub and whip and this content make me feel slightly safer now!
Thanks AJ and Coach James!!!!!....more please!!!!
This was the best whip video yet. Especially because it’s with a good rider who can’t whip but can clearly ride excellent and scrub. Great info as to let the bike go let it do the whip. You do the hip. The bike does the whip. I feel confident to try this.
i've been riding since i was 3 and whipping started doing little turns of the handle bars and thinking that was cool. It really is an evolution of feel. I'm a body builder now and i can compare whipping to mind muscle connection. When lifting I can target the exact muscle I want to hit because I can feel it and know exactly what it should feel like. Very similar to whipping. The hardest part when I was learning to whip was the lean. You just have to keep increasing ur lean off the face by small incraments because if u do too much when ur not prepared to handle it in the air it can be a big crash. Once you get it though it's a feeling like no other.
Dude, that tip with the actual speed coming up to the jump is the last thing I needed. I have been trying to get the bike to float out while still having the "scrub approach". The bike has zero tilt in the air but goes sideways lmao. I have been enlightened.
thank god these are back!!!
I love this kind of lesson.
I like how coach discovered the new feeling in regard to throttle application.
I know we're talking about whips, but AJ's Jersey is BADASS!! 🎸
Everything aside, this thumbnail is absolute gold😂
Forget how good AJ is on a dirt bike sometimes.
About to turn 35, essentially been riding for about 5 years (4 on, 3 year gap, then back on a year ago) and man I'd kill to be able to whip even to the level of this guy at the beginning of the vid. I'm so nervous to do anything optional in the air, other than panic rev. But brake taps or leaning or turning in the air is all uncharted territory for me, trying to avoid injury. But no pain no gain.
the whip is all about getting out of the way of the bikes natural rebound, by leaning it over slightly on the jump face. the rebound then takes the rear wheel away to the side and up while the rest of the bike does not get the effect of that rebound power like it normally would. the rest of it is more about how a gyro works than anything. if you change the direction of a gyro it will apply a near equal force back to you at another angle.
for example, hold a 9" wheel grinder at full speed then turn it one way. it will react by twisting another way. the gyro of your wheels keep your bike stable, but when you upset that gyro momentum it will react. upsetting it just before your leaving the ground is the entire key. you also need to let it finish reacting to this "upset" before you make another input, otherwise the bike will freeze its twisting motion in the air, and the memory of the gyro to properly return back to where it was, will be erased.
for those who have always worried about not getting the bike to come back straight... this is why AJ says the "timing" has to come naturally. the amount of lean on the jump face and the timing of how much and how fast it leans, decides the twisting arc of the entire whip effect, or when the gyro will finish reacting. thus the "timing" needs to match the length and height of the jump. this way when you nudge it back the gyro has finished its reacting and is ready to be directed again. this again is why its all about the combo of timing to accompany the gyros action to last precisely the length of the jump before you land. if the bike comes back to soon, you may wreck just as easily as if the bike comes back too late.
if this "timing" does not come naturally to you, then you are not ready to try a whip. it is too dangerous to do so until you can feel the amount of whip needed for each and every type of jump. if it feels scary, don't do it, cuz you may lock up in the air and land sideways. during the "gyro cycle" of the whip, the bike needs to not feel any inputs from you.
if you want to easily learn a whip, make a jump ramp up a big bank that is so steep you nearly come to a stop at the apex. then make the landing to be way up there at the top of the apex/arc. at this point your going so slow, you can land half sideways and not get hurt. flying up the face of a big tall bank then landing on the very top, is a great way to practice a whip safely. have fun.
You should make a video, your explanation is very good
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I learned by weighing my inside peg and sitting down and adding a smooth pulling motion with the bars
Thanks for the info. I'm not even thinking about trying whips, but couldn't wrap my head around how they work. Gyro explanation did it.
AJ, I'm pulling for you man! You're gonna have your Max Anstie moment one of these days. I can feel it.
It's also understanding the gyro of both wheels.
the fox gear is lit !! 🔥🔥
Too bad the gear quality is garbage cuz it looks great
Best video on whipping tho AJ. Keep up the great progress. Ur killing it. Maybe one day you will sponser my dirtbike brand. Never know. Only reach highs, never reach limits
That 2 stroke sounds sick !! Love seeing him on a man’s bike
It’s all about the lean. I can’t “whip” and I know for a fact it’s because I’m afraid of leaning off the face of jumps. Doesn’t feel natural to me for some reason
Same. I’m a fast intermediate but I just can’t get myself to lean enough for some reason
Back in my day AJ’s whip would be considered a table top. How names change LMAO.
Doesn't make you faster either, maybe get a girlfriend haha
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Yup. We called them tabletops. Or a scub, only turning out instead of turning down and into the takeoff
My day to homie.diff table top.but our non working generation has enough time to rename shit we was doing in the stone age.lol
Oh man!!! Almost forgot about that term! Thanks for the flashback!
I understand the physics and body positioning of a whip but to commit to it is a scary feel as the same with seat bouncing. It's seems such a big body movement from a scrub which I think is the reason people are so scared to try but before I die I will learn to whip a bike 😂
yes. and hopefully not right before you die right!
Seat bouncing is easy
Great video! I needed that
What is easier/better to teach and learn first ? Scrubbing or whipping? And does learning one can lead you to the next one smoother or easier ? Awesome video. Thanks
In my opinion learning scrubs first is much easier, and yes it does lead to learning whips
Man that 2 stroke sounds deadly
Nice content AJ
nothing beats a full blown whip
You should do a video on starting gate technique
Love the low key “ Carmichael comparison, yea I do mine like Carmichael too! But if we’re talking about scrubs then I’m like James bubba stew!
Carmichael style w the Fox gear
Now you have a facility, we need an update video 😁
Love it!!!
** putt pressure on inside foot on take off** will help you to lossen your upper body
I wanna learn but my biggest fear is the bike not returning and absolutely murking myself😂 i ride pitbikes more than anything and race on the track pretty competitively. I need to transfer all of it onto a big bike whenever i can afford one
Aj I saw a sweet looking fox helmet at the dealership yesterday and want to know is it as good as my shoei? What's your opinion
Hard to learn whips on fast jumps, because you want to be hard on the throttle going up the jump face and turning. It's so much easier on a slow poppy jump to whip. High speed jumps are a lot easier to scrub imo.
That can be true at times. This jump was definitely an easier jump to scrub than it is to whip
Does it make sense to point the front end down more in the air or is that more for a scrub? Looked like your whip was more nose down and James was more level. Just my observation. Thanks!
When you start nose high off the jump face and gyro it, it kinda naturally happens and you wanna battle it with throttle towards the end
What's the point of the whip in the first place?
A... to look cool in photos. B... to turn in the air when the track does not line up with the jump face. C... for faster lap times, because the whip creates an air brake and you slow down in the air more, which gets you back to the ground so you can get on the gas again. it gets you over the jump so you land at the same place, but you took off with a greater ground speed then if not doing a whip. but a scrub does all of this to a greater degree. D... a whip can help you set up for a steep down-ramp approach angle and helps keep your rear wheel from catching on the top lip of a jump.
Mid air bike control and looks cool
Can you teach me how to whip on a road glide? That would be pretty cool, but I think landing it could get messy.... so.. never mind. ✌️😁
So I’m 25 years old, and have had little to 0 experience on dirt bikes, but I now have a 04 yamaha 225 and am trying to get the hang of riding it, I literally cannot understand turning, I feel like I’m over thinking it but it’s feels so unnatural after having ridden street bikes, any advice for a novice?
...as in turning through an MX track berm turn? or just the way the bars counter-steer in general? if you come from street bikes, you may find that you will push the front end out and fall over to the inside. this is from leaning inward too much for the speed your going while not having a berm. in the softer dirt, when going slower then the speed it takes to G-force into the rut or berm (like a slot car does on a high banked turn), you must lean/lay the bike down more than on a street bike.
so for normal, slower flat-track type turning, keep your body more upright and let the bike fall over more under you. this will be a safer way to practice, cuz you can catch a fall with your leg, as a fall will only happen if the back tire slips out. you will be sitting way forward so that the front tire always gets more grip than the rear. this will build your confidence. it works on about any traction surface because the bike is so much lighter than your street bike.
if it falls in/over too much, steer into the turn harder and the bike will stand up more. when your done turning, just turn back the other way and the bike will stand back up. you don't have to follow the bike with your body like a street bike. it can swap left and right under you while you just sit there. this swapping action will be much faster than on a street bike but be ok. test the limits to find out what this lighter, safer bike will do.
do not think about the counter-steer effect. if you do, you will wobble back and forth and get into a headshake situation. counter-steer comes naturally when you want to turn. you're doing it on your street bike without thinking, so just think about turning the way you want and let your muscle memory worry about the counter steer.
find a riding area with even traction about like the wet sand of a beach, and practice all kinds of turns in 2nd gear. try knifing the bike left and right in and out of turns, to feel how you can safely use the front wheel to quickly change directions. for this type of practice, if you don't feel the fork diving as you cut the other way, your going too slow. gradually get faster at figure 8's and circles, then try 3rd gear while making bigger arcs. you will start to feel the G-force pulling you into the seat like your street bike did.
it just takes time to learn the types of dirt, sand or gravel and what the limits are. try single track trail riding and simply don't think about the turning part. this will help you tune out the confusion. avoid rutty trails till you get better. have fun and before long your turning questions will fade away.
tire pressure is key for turning and traction. run about 11psi in the rear and 13 psi in the front. softer compound tires need more air.
@@yukonjon5964 thanks man! I appreciate it!
@@brandonkeithley7464 you're welcome.
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From my experience in riding road and dirt for the last 45+yrs ... and I still don't know a damn thing... is most street riders sit waaaay too much and are too far back on the seat in corners.
Tons of corner vids out there. Have fun and welcome to the better half of motorcycling.
A Scrub is OFF Throttle, and a Whip is ON Throttle. 🙂
So what have we all learned today boys and girls.....? Albert you need to keep that damn bike!!! Toodles.
You should have shot more of the clips in slowmo.
helpful
It’s weird, I’m more comfortable scrubbing to the right and seat bounce whipping to the left. Not sure what that is all about. 😂
"Coach James didn't start riding until he was 14 years old". Here I am looking to start at 35 😎
AJ, it seems you lean on the face of the jump much more than your trainee
Also, I'm I wrong to say that if on the whip here, with the back going left, you turn left, on a scrub you would turn right?
Hard to listen with the other bikes passing by 😬
Is that a 60' jump?
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I cannot understand the physics of whipping at all.
what i wrote below should help Kyle. look for the longer post with my channel name.
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Why does it look like he is leaning more on the back of the bike when whipping?
Also is it a natural movement back or use putter whip heel to bring back the bike
Nevermind. I understand everything
Great jumps. AJ did go a bit farther though. Keep it up. Love the channel.
Also, what weight are you? I’m about 175ish + is a 125 or a 250 two stroke better to start back up? Haven’t ridden for 10 years and was on four strokes before. Mostly 250f.
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AJ you don't do a bad job explaining but Ricky does it better and the video angles are so much better especially with the use of slow-mo. Not hating on you but RC's vid is better imo.
What we have here are 2 riders with one being pre bubba scrub and the other being post bubba scrub.
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For me I learned to whip good on big tables that are immediately after a corner. Because you’re hard on the gas just to clear it and carving up the face naturally,sitting down and all that good stuff lol. And because there’s usually tons of hot moms at the track hahahah
It’s amazing how much better you do stuff when there’s girls watching 😉
that dude is teachable and he is man enough say hey I am scared about this
Dag nabbitt, I thought I was whippin the last ten years. Back to the drawin board. All AJ seems to do is point out how shitty I actually ride (that's because proper technique and positioning are way harder than it looks, so I'm not good at it).
Hahah you’ll get there! 😂👍🏼
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Thanks Aj.
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