The June 5th announcement of the Vison Pro was more of a concept unveiling rather than a ‘Pre orders starts on on Friday and available for pick up next week’. it debuted a solid foundation of a new product category that’s still very much in development, both for hardware and even more so for software. I suspect the more public demos will be around a spring event in 2024.
I noticed the way you could tell if someone had experienced a demo or not was the hands-on people simply _gushed_ over the device whereas others simply expounded the specs and data from the presentation. This is how you can tell that this device is a paradigm shift - but you may have to experience the device to see why. Apple Vision Pro may be the most personal device Apple has yet created. I intend to hold off until at least gen 2 and maybe a bit longer - I'm afflicted with lazy-eye so I know from my use of the Sony Playstation VR2 that these devices are less immersive if you can't experience true convergent stereoscopic vision. Hopefully by gen 2 they'll allow a dominant eye to do the tracking.
There was an Vision Pro demo, just not on-stage, and were done only for attendees. Apple's keynotes have been prerecorded since 2020, so I never expected a live demonstration of anything. The video segment in the keynote gave a clear explanation of how the tech works and its use cases.
The way they could have done it is invite tech journalists before the event, film their reaction and then show those reactions after the introduction as a demo proxy. They do this all the time with new Macs by giving them to experts/developers. The best way to show value is to have someone they trust explain why it’s so powerful, which they kind of got through coverage but missed it during the announcements.
I kind of wish they would allow more media to have access to it across the world through their apple stores. The fact that a massive XR TH-camr such as Thrillseeker has not been allowed to test it is blasphemy and honestly worrisome as he is by far the best VR/AR source for comparisons.
@@emilsecker7881I think the challenge is that if they did a demo and didn’t demo eyesight or big things it kinda demonstrates it’s not ready. If everything is in video nobody knows what does or doesn’t work yet.
Great video. I think this will be a huge success, but primarily with Apple’s core users. Apple’s base has always demanded the best user experience over a cheaper price. Apple, before Cook was a high end tech company for high end buyers. Apple’s introduction of the Vision Pro had to achieve very specific goals that I believe they met. They presented a standalone device, a complete operating system and the combination of hardware and software that took that device well beyond the technology of their competitors. The people who can afford a new, polished and sophisticated technology will buy this in droves. The good news is Cook will undoubtedly develop an Air or SE version for me. Jobs era would have left it to the used market.
Seems to me this tech is wayyy too difficult to demo live, and they haven’t figured it out yet. It would be cool to do projected “holograms” on glass or something with practical effects, but i imagine there will always be cgi with these demos because of the nature of the tech
I feel like even a basic live feed "screen capture" from the headset would work, because it shows the headset's ability to place objects in space and the interface
I would say the biggest thing people forget about it is that this was announced at their software developer conference. So it was for the developers more than it was for the consumers. It's def not ready for the market. It was all a concept announcement if anything. Everyone complained that the headset was too heavy. Bingo. Apple is taking notes immediately. Why hire out for this job when you can have everyone else give feedback for free.
I don't think that's true. Yeah, it's technically a "developer's conference", but they're also announcing a new product line for the first time. The announcement looks like a commercial and they later even had a state of the union address that actually talked to developers about the details relevant to them. Let's not pretend that apple wasn't fully aware of all the fans watching.
Do you think you will plug in a cable into the battery pack or do you think the cable will go directly to a power source for infinite use. I feel that the cord from the headset will not be long enough to reach all the way to a power socket or labtop.
@@TailosiveTech good, that cord looked short. Still 2 hours of battery before the whole thing powers off is annoying. I wish they made a new battery pack. The old one was sized to fit the mini but it is gone now. They should of made a new MagSafe pack to fit the regular models and then that would be the same battery for the headset. I wonder if there will be a low power mode. The Apple Watch got its low power mode late so…
This is classic over analyzing! Not you TT, I’m talking about the people wondering why the execs didn’t wear it. Apple specifically said these units were not ready yet. Also, they showed people wearing it in the video so what’s the big deal about the execs wearing it lol! People just need something to talk about!
maybe .....but Apple doesn't want silly memes of Tim Cook or other high-profile Apple execs going viral and distracting from the product. Initially, they want celebrities, influencers, etc instead....losing their sh!t on social media about how awesome these things are. Apple has a huge hit on their hands....the extended release date is carefully timed and will be crafted to build expectation and demand.
I know this sounds counterintuitive but I think Eyesight will be key for marketing the device and inspiring envy in others IRL. Because they have your digital face on the front they can blend graphics from whatever the VP user is seeing with their Eyesight face. Imagine dappled light from a forest, caustics from a body of water, or flying embers from a fire flowing across the user's face -all realistically lighting their face. I think the Eyesight screen will help explain what the device does and what the user is experiencing for the masses in one fell swoop. This will help normalize wearing a headset not just because you can see the user's eyes but because the concept of mixed reality gets across like that *snaps finger*.
Personally, I am super excited for the future of Vision Pro, although I probably won’t buy the 1st gen. Also, the in person events, I hope they eventually bring them back. Didn’t they build the Steve Jobs theater entirely for this purpose?
One thing I would disagree with you on. I think this will match the iPad sales in the beginning. Trust me, you will be surprised how many people will shell out $3500!
The iPad in year one sold 5 million units. Most new products like the iPhone was 1.3 million and Apple Watch 1.5 million. I agree that demand will be surprisingly high, but the supply will be the issue. My forecast is for 2 million sold which would be around 7 billion in revenue. The first thing we will see regarding demand is that the first allotment of Vision Pros will sell out in about 2 weeks.
@@bruxi78230 my bad, I didn’t look at the actual numbers. I was thinking the iPad sold between 1.5 and 2 million. With that said, I agree with your numbers.
I think it needs a bigger battery. You can’t even watch a full movie because in 2 hours it’s drained. I think it’s very interesting and maybe become a huge product. I almost think Apple should lease them to because of the huge sticker price. VCR’s were very expensive to when they came out.
You can plug it directly into a Mac for unlimited use time.....anyway, Apple will likely allow approved third-party hardware companies to offer batteries and other accessories that won't infringe on the internal "doo-dads"....similar to iPhone cases that act as "extended" batteries.
This is one of the largest companies in the world introducing the future of their company after 8 years of development. They had a fully edited video to work with, yet they absolutely failed to build hype within it. The only enthusiasm comes second hand from people talking about it. They had all the resources to do what they did with the iphone announcement and more. I think even a basic screen capture with a prototype would have been better than nothing. To me it seems that Apple has just become too big and calculated for its own good. Turns out the first person views in the presentation were actually captured with the device, but they're so calculated that they felt fake. The flaws are the thing that makes you believe that you're watching a real demo.
@@TailosiveTech I am hyped. But you were answering the question of "why no demo?" and while I understand apple's reasoning, I think it shows restraint in a level that they used to not have. I think that makes it feel less exciting. Seeing an amazing demo with flaws is better than seeing a flawless render in my opinion.
eventually people will get as addicted to extended reality displays as they have to smartphones, it will definitely take a couple of years, but we’ll get there for sure
Oh my god can the fanbase please stop glazing Steve Jobs and hating on Tim Cook for no reason?! They’re two entirely different products released at entirely different times, maybe they just didn’t think it was necessary. It’s not even a Tim Cook thing; the Apple Watch presentation included a demonstration on stage, just not by Cook himself. People just like poking whatever holes they can in new stuff and glorifying the past for no reason It would have been weird to do a demo anyways because Apple keynotes are pre-taped now rather than live like the iPhone presentation was, so it would have felt a bit awkward to randomly play a pre-recorded video of Tim Cook using the thing, especially when we can’t actually see what he’s seeing unless there’s a weird dual screen set-up thingy.
Nah the issue with the front screen is. "Eyesight" can only bring and track 1 person in to VR at a time. The front display can only do its thing towards one person at a time. If you are in a room demoing it with loads of people it could be unpredictable or do the wrong person. So if it was filmed say and didn't display to the wright person it would create bad PR.
@@TailosiveTech One of the reviewers at the event mentioned that apple said only one person can be faded in at a time. As far as the front display. Lenticular Displays can show different images at different angles. Apple are using it to fake 3D depth. I guess it depends on what exacly they are doing. Is it like those creepy pictures where the Eyes follow you so it looks like you are looking at every one at the same time to them or will any angle show you are looking in one direction. Either way the same result that its either going to make it look like the person is looking at the wrong person. Or if it can only bring one person in and display that you are looking at that person it could maybe do the wrong person when filmed. It will be interesting to see how it works when people finaly get them though for sure.
I think it would have been nice to see Tim Cook wear it and be in awe (or at least act), just like many youtubers were when trying it. Even if it had been only scrolling down safari, it would have helped get the idea of the device across. That being said, I don't think that would have stopped people criticising the device or the idea cause, as you said, there's no way of actually 100% conveying what the experience with the device is.
Nope....Apple doesn't want Memes of Tim (or any publicly know Apple exec) wearing them spreading all over social media. It will distract from the product itself. Apple wants influencers and celebrities yadda yadda wearing them and literally losing their sh!t with how awesome they are.....that's what they want ALL OVER Social Media.....Apple has a home run here...they know it.
How do you demo something that only the person in the headset can see? It’s not like you can have a projector and 3D holograms shows up. That’s not exactly the demo for the headset now is it?
Really. They allowed reviewers to test drive the product that's still being tweaked. These are folks who are not easily impressed--they've seen it all. If Apple was hiding anything, they wouldn't risk it. Nearly everyone who tried it in person, was blown away.
@@bobweiram6321 Exactly ... I just don't understand all this speculation. It's almost like American loves conspiracy theories. Too much spare time? It's an unfinished product. They want to control the narrative and not put an unfinished product in a bad light. Makes perfect sense to me. When it comes out, give it a try and let the reviewers see what VisionPro can deliver. In the meantime, there's really no need to read too much into it.
@@RunForPeace-hk1cu It's a complex sociopolitical phenomenon. Traditionally, Apple's customer base has been academia and creative professionals who have the means to afford its products. These groups are perceived as educated, left-oriented, elitist snobs by conservatives and the working class who are at odds with their values. Apple's success in the marketplace, especially among the general public, poses an existential threat to them.
completely agree.....it's laughable to think Americans would balk at the "isolation"...look at how they stare with their noses pressed against their smartphones now.....many wish they could just jump in.
Great thoughts! I totally agree! The big problem with this thing is the marketing so in other words: how can you convince average people that Vision Pro is a so called solution for a so called "problem"? What exactly will Vision Pro do so much better that it's actually worth 3500 dollar plus tax? The tax iw 25% in some counties and the dollar is really expensive now in some counties. Vision Pro will probably not become "that success", at least during the first years. The early adopters will buy it, no doubt! It's easy to sell almost anything to those guys. The hard thing is to sell this to "that average person". Tim Cook could have putted Vision Pro on himself just at least to show how it look on him. And to show that battery. And explain that the demo videos is the only way to show how it works...
Interesting perspective on the sales and marketing potential of this product, but I disagree completely that the reception will be tepid. Given how expensive it it, yes, no one will just order this online without a test drive, so to speak. And the minute one tries it at a store, they will be blown away by it, as we have already seen at WWDC. In fact, I feel Apple will not be able to keep pace with the demand. This isn’t a 100 million units type of product like the iPhone, but it will sell in millions just the same.
I think the vision Pro is a nice concept but I have not read or heard what problem this device solves. The iPhone solved the complexity of mobile devices at the time and made them simple for everyone. The iPad made basic computing for the masses simple. The Watch made notifications and health tracking simple so much so you could put the phone away. But this adds complexity to your day. To watch a movie you would have to plug it in to an outlet for any task you would have to plug it in. Thinking real world use this tethers you to a desk and add weight to your face and head, heat and sweat will be a challenge and how long before your ripping the thing off just so you can relax in the real world for a bit.
The product is inherently impossible to demo unless you're wearing it. Although watching Tim Cook on stage wearing the headset and saying "Wow!" and "This is amazing!" would be fun.
I'm not seeing the appeal of this because this is not an "everyday use device." It's not like an Iphone that people use daily innovated from a daily used keypad phones. It's not like an airpods innovated from a daily used wired headset. It's not like a smartwatch innovated from a daily used normal watch. Get it? It doesn't appeal to average consumers because they don't imagine themselves using it daily for practical reasons. 🤷♂️
People like 3D designers may find this product interesting, if the headset becomes light enough(or the apple glass gets released) and they release new headbands i could see an audience using it for fitness displaying calories burned, miles(if applicable), heart rate, and more. The headset at the moment isn't meant for consumers, apple isn't foolish to sell a 3,500 headset to their average consumers. It's meant for developers, people into new tech. This is the pro model, and that reinforces the idea that this may not be for average consumers.
@@arandomguy46ey should have a Apple glass for $429(at least less than $1000) that have a projection screen and runs on the iPhone, the primary goal is to let the masses adopt VR first, no one have done it, not everyone wearing it everywhere, a glass from factor with inputs like digit crown and touch pad and output with a screen alongside a battery and SSD, the iPhone and the glasses communicating with ultra wide band connections. Maybe some simple cameras and LiDAR for AR stuff. Then they can slowly phase out the iPhone with the ‘Pro’ version which is slightly bulkier but still glass from factor with similar design, have it’s own chip, with better camera system. They can also easily have a ring for motion detection, works nearly as well as the hand tracking tech now and cost way less. After the iPhone and the budget iPad is phased out, they can start phasing out Macs and iPad Air/Pros with desktop classed feature such as better connectivity and better performance. Carrying iPhone isn’t that big of a deal if it reduces a bunch of the weight. It make no sense to make an iPhone as bulky as possible so an M1 chip can be fitted in. The desktop experience is still there as it links to everything, you can’t carry a Mac Studio on the go but it’s there. Plus, iPad(excluding budget ones) and MacBooks offer comparable experience on the go.
The reason there wasn’t a demo because you don’t look at it you look through it. Haven’t you seen how silly those kids look when they are playing games on a VR headset.
I think the issue is that the replication currently isn’t great, seeing an unknown actor with the eyes is one thing. Seeing someone who you are familiar with them is something else.
While I respect your simplistic approach to making videos, there is a baseline and the audio in this vid is below that baseline. Please at least run it through voice isolation. The echo was just a bit too distracting.
So I think AR is the future but when and only when full AR capability fits into a standard pair of glasses/sunglasses!. When you can put a pair of glasses on have directions overlayed in the world in-front of you, get to a train station and it shows you where to go which platform, train times. If your in another country real time translation of written words you don’t understand and what people are saying!. With battery that lasts like half a week!. All of the a clunky big and heavy headset it won’t be going anywhere!. Baring in mind these AR glasses that will replace the mobile phones/the iPhone, Mac computers, iPads. They need to have the technology to cram an iPhone, Mac Studio, iPad, sat nav with a battery that lasts days into the space and size of a regular pair of sunglasses!. It’s obvious with battery tech alone we are unfortunately decades from that point!. It’s definitely the future just not near future!.
I love you and have been watching you for years, but do you have any proof? We can’t keep saying shit, without proof. You haven’t even tested the Vision Pro in a demo.
@@TailosiveTech true, I agree with that. But let’s not speculate on a products that’s not release yet. Because you know like I do people will run with the speculation.
Apple lost everyones interest on the Vision Pro with the price $3499… and that’s starting from!… imagine if they just waited a few more years and they managed to reduce the size/weight by 50%, increased the battery without having a plug in battery pack and came in at $999… the thing will fly off the shelf.
Apple has a home run on their hands. When these actually hit the broader market, Apple won't be able to keep up with the initial demand....that will drive them to offer a lower cost, less feature-rich "non-pro" version called the Vision HOME...as soon as 8-12 months after the OG Vision Pros.....just wait. The idea that consumers will balk at being "isolated" from the outside world or rebel against wearing a headset is ludicrous. Just look at Americans now with their noses pressed against their smartphones...EVERYWHERE !! ... if they could, they would jump inside.
The June 5th announcement of the Vison Pro was more of a concept unveiling rather than a ‘Pre orders starts on on Friday and available for pick up next week’. it debuted a solid foundation of a new product category that’s still very much in development, both for hardware and even more so for software. I suspect the more public demos will be around a spring event in 2024.
Absolutely agree
I noticed the way you could tell if someone had experienced a demo or not was the hands-on people simply _gushed_ over the device whereas others simply expounded the specs and data from the presentation.
This is how you can tell that this device is a paradigm shift - but you may have to experience the device to see why. Apple Vision Pro may be the most personal device Apple has yet created.
I intend to hold off until at least gen 2 and maybe a bit longer - I'm afflicted with lazy-eye so I know from my use of the Sony Playstation VR2 that these devices are less immersive if you can't experience true convergent stereoscopic vision. Hopefully by gen 2 they'll allow a dominant eye to do the tracking.
There was an Vision Pro demo, just not on-stage, and were done only for attendees. Apple's keynotes have been prerecorded since 2020, so I never expected a live demonstration of anything. The video segment in the keynote gave a clear explanation of how the tech works and its use cases.
The way they could have done it is invite tech journalists before the event, film their reaction and then show those reactions after the introduction as a demo proxy. They do this all the time with new Macs by giving them to experts/developers.
The best way to show value is to have someone they trust explain why it’s so powerful, which they kind of got through coverage but missed it during the announcements.
I kind of wish they would allow more media to have access to it across the world through their apple stores. The fact that a massive XR TH-camr such as Thrillseeker has not been allowed to test it is blasphemy and honestly worrisome as he is by far the best VR/AR source for comparisons.
Your house, the window and background looks like something out of the future and on another planet.
Because it’s not ready lol
but multiple youtubers and reporters tried it…
@@emilsecker7881es but they did all the use cases. navigating the UI, facetime, watching movies, etc on one headset. maybe just EyeSight isn’t ready
@@emilsecker7881I think the challenge is that if they did a demo and didn’t demo eyesight or big things it kinda demonstrates it’s not ready. If everything is in video nobody knows what does or doesn’t work yet.
I wouldn’t mind in person events again. I liked seeing all the people in the audience.
Great video. I think this will be a huge success, but primarily with Apple’s core users. Apple’s base has always demanded the best user experience over a cheaper price. Apple, before Cook was a high end tech company for high end buyers. Apple’s introduction of the Vision Pro had to achieve very specific goals that I believe they met. They presented a standalone device, a complete operating system and the combination of hardware and software that took that device well beyond the technology of their competitors. The people who can afford a new, polished and sophisticated technology will buy this in droves. The good news is Cook will undoubtedly develop an Air or SE version for me. Jobs era would have left it to the used market.
Seems to me this tech is wayyy too difficult to demo live, and they haven’t figured it out yet. It would be cool to do projected “holograms” on glass or something with practical effects, but i imagine there will always be cgi with these demos because of the nature of the tech
I feel like even a basic live feed "screen capture" from the headset would work, because it shows the headset's ability to place objects in space and the interface
I see Apple creating custom eyes for EyeSight. Dinosaur eyes, glowing eyes, and much more.
After trying a lower specs vr like Quest 2. I already know how great the headset could be
I would say the biggest thing people forget about it is that this was announced at their software developer conference. So it was for the developers more than it was for the consumers. It's def not ready for the market. It was all a concept announcement if anything. Everyone complained that the headset was too heavy. Bingo. Apple is taking notes immediately. Why hire out for this job when you can have everyone else give feedback for free.
I don't think that's true. Yeah, it's technically a "developer's conference", but they're also announcing a new product line for the first time. The announcement looks like a commercial and they later even had a state of the union address that actually talked to developers about the details relevant to them. Let's not pretend that apple wasn't fully aware of all the fans watching.
I just hope the lenticular display is not in the same development stage that AirPower was when presented on stage 😰
Do you think you will plug in a cable into the battery pack or do you think the cable will go directly to a power source for infinite use. I feel that the cord from the headset will not be long enough to reach all the way to a power socket or labtop.
Power cord goes into battery pack not the headset
@@TailosiveTech good, that cord looked short. Still 2 hours of battery before the whole thing powers off is annoying. I wish they made a new battery pack. The old one was sized to fit the mini but it is gone now. They should of made a new MagSafe pack to fit the regular models and then that would be the same battery for the headset.
I wonder if there will be a low power mode. The Apple Watch got its low power mode late so…
This is classic over analyzing! Not you TT, I’m talking about the people wondering why the execs didn’t wear it. Apple specifically said these units were not ready yet. Also, they showed people wearing it in the video so what’s the big deal about the execs wearing it lol! People just need something to talk about!
Tim Cook didn’t wear airpod when it was introduced.
Does that mean it’s a failed product?
I think we know how that ended up being 😂
@@RunForPeace-hk1cuMaybe he should, it helps with adoption
maybe .....but Apple doesn't want silly memes of Tim Cook or other high-profile Apple execs going viral and distracting from the product. Initially, they want celebrities, influencers, etc instead....losing their sh!t on social media about how awesome these things are. Apple has a huge hit on their hands....the extended release date is carefully timed and will be crafted to build expectation and demand.
I actually cleaned my monitor thinking the smudges on your window were on my monitor.
The last apple product have this arrangement is air power ?
Headphones for your eyes is a perfect example.
I know this sounds counterintuitive but I think Eyesight will be key for marketing the device and inspiring envy in others IRL. Because they have your digital face on the front they can blend graphics from whatever the VP user is seeing with their Eyesight face. Imagine dappled light from a forest, caustics from a body of water, or flying embers from a fire flowing across the user's face -all realistically lighting their face. I think the Eyesight screen will help explain what the device does and what the user is experiencing for the masses in one fell swoop. This will help normalize wearing a headset not just because you can see the user's eyes but because the concept of mixed reality gets across like that *snaps finger*.
Are people going to hear the vP’s speakers?
meta holographic lens research can shrink the optical stack to glasses size ...it will need a processing unit and battery wired to it tho
Personally, I am super excited for the future of Vision Pro, although I probably won’t buy the 1st gen. Also, the in person events, I hope they eventually bring them back. Didn’t they build the Steve Jobs theater entirely for this purpose?
My biggest confusion is why the Apple Sheep didn’t get an invite to go to the event and try it? 🤔
imagine being able to block people IRL like that black mirror episode
What it needs is 3d apps and websites, imagine if you could browse on a website similar to a physical store
If Microsoft could demo HoloLens they could have demo this better.
Yes but it's important to note HoloLens is for a completely different target audience.
@@arandomguy46how tho? It really does about the same thing Microsoft’s is just a bit more pushed towards industry professionals.
One thing I would disagree with you on. I think this will match the iPad sales in the beginning. Trust me, you will be surprised how many people will shell out $3500!
true a lot of people have a lot of spare cash.
The iPad in year one sold 5 million units. Most new products like the iPhone was 1.3 million and Apple Watch 1.5 million. I agree that demand will be surprisingly high, but the supply will be the issue. My forecast is for 2 million sold which would be around 7 billion in revenue. The first thing we will see regarding demand is that the first allotment of Vision Pros will sell out in about 2 weeks.
@@bruxi78230 my bad, I didn’t look at the actual numbers. I was thinking the iPad sold between 1.5 and 2 million. With that said, I agree with your numbers.
I think it needs a bigger battery. You can’t even watch a full movie because in 2 hours it’s drained. I think it’s very interesting and maybe become a huge product. I almost think Apple should lease them to because of the huge sticker price. VCR’s were very expensive to when they came out.
You can plug it directly into a Mac for unlimited use time.....anyway, Apple will likely allow approved third-party hardware companies to offer batteries and other accessories that won't infringe on the internal "doo-dads"....similar to iPhone cases that act as "extended" batteries.
@@goobfilmcast4239then you should just do whatever on your Mac.
Just like a TV you can plug it in the wall. But I don’t think a Mac can output enough power
This is one of the largest companies in the world introducing the future of their company after 8 years of development. They had a fully edited video to work with, yet they absolutely failed to build hype within it. The only enthusiasm comes second hand from people talking about it. They had all the resources to do what they did with the iphone announcement and more. I think even a basic screen capture with a prototype would have been better than nothing. To me it seems that Apple has just become too big and calculated for its own good. Turns out the first person views in the presentation were actually captured with the device, but they're so calculated that they felt fake. The flaws are the thing that makes you believe that you're watching a real demo.
Failed to build hype for you. Keep in mind the iPhone was not loved by everyone instantly. Rarely does apples first gen product gather a lot of hype
@@TailosiveTech I am hyped. But you were answering the question of "why no demo?" and while I understand apple's reasoning, I think it shows restraint in a level that they used to not have. I think that makes it feel less exciting. Seeing an amazing demo with flaws is better than seeing a flawless render in my opinion.
eventually people will get as addicted to extended reality displays as they have to smartphones, it will definitely take a couple of years, but we’ll get there for sure
Oh my god can the fanbase please stop glazing Steve Jobs and hating on Tim Cook for no reason?! They’re two entirely different products released at entirely different times, maybe they just didn’t think it was necessary. It’s not even a Tim Cook thing; the Apple Watch presentation included a demonstration on stage, just not by Cook himself. People just like poking whatever holes they can in new stuff and glorifying the past for no reason
It would have been weird to do a demo anyways because Apple keynotes are pre-taped now rather than live like the iPhone presentation was, so it would have felt a bit awkward to randomly play a pre-recorded video of Tim Cook using the thing, especially when we can’t actually see what he’s seeing unless there’s a weird dual screen set-up thingy.
Nah the issue with the front screen is. "Eyesight" can only bring and track 1 person in to VR at a time. The front display can only do its thing towards one person at a time. If you are in a room demoing it with loads of people it could be unpredictable or do the wrong person. So if it was filmed say and didn't display to the wright person it would create bad PR.
I don’t think that’s true. It renders to multiple angles simultaneously the way I understand it
@@TailosiveTech One of the reviewers at the event mentioned that apple said only one person can be faded in at a time. As far as the front display. Lenticular Displays can show different images at different angles. Apple are using it to fake 3D depth. I guess it depends on what exacly they are doing. Is it like those creepy pictures where the Eyes follow you so it looks like you are looking at every one at the same time to them or will any angle show you are looking in one direction. Either way the same result that its either going to make it look like the person is looking at the wrong person. Or if it can only bring one person in and display that you are looking at that person it could maybe do the wrong person when filmed.
It will be interesting to see how it works when people finaly get them though for sure.
Saving all the negative video and will wait a year…😂
I think it would have been nice to see Tim Cook wear it and be in awe (or at least act), just like many youtubers were when trying it. Even if it had been only scrolling down safari, it would have helped get the idea of the device across. That being said, I don't think that would have stopped people criticising the device or the idea cause, as you said, there's no way of actually 100% conveying what the experience with the device is.
That would have made absolutely no difference in anything dude!
It's hard to be in genuine awe when he has been involved with the development his entire run at Apple. It would come off as pretend.
It would have been nice if the outside screen worked
Nope....Apple doesn't want Memes of Tim (or any publicly know Apple exec) wearing them spreading all over social media. It will distract from the product itself. Apple wants influencers and celebrities yadda yadda wearing them and literally losing their sh!t with how awesome they are.....that's what they want ALL OVER Social Media.....Apple has a home run here...they know it.
How do you demo something that only the person in the headset can see?
It’s not like you can have a projector and 3D holograms shows up.
That’s not exactly the demo for the headset now is it?
Really. They allowed reviewers to test drive the product that's still being tweaked. These are folks who are not easily impressed--they've seen it all. If Apple was hiding anything, they wouldn't risk it. Nearly everyone who tried it in person, was blown away.
@@bobweiram6321 Exactly ... I just don't understand all this speculation. It's almost like American loves conspiracy theories.
Too much spare time?
It's an unfinished product. They want to control the narrative and not put an unfinished product in a bad light. Makes perfect sense to me.
When it comes out, give it a try and let the reviewers see what VisionPro can deliver. In the meantime, there's really no need to read too much into it.
@@RunForPeace-hk1cu It's a complex sociopolitical phenomenon. Traditionally, Apple's customer base has been academia and creative professionals who have the means to afford its products. These groups are perceived as educated, left-oriented, elitist snobs by conservatives and the working class who are at odds with their values. Apple's success in the marketplace, especially among the general public, poses an existential threat to them.
Vision pro is first step of future computing
completely agree.....it's laughable to think Americans would balk at the "isolation"...look at how they stare with their noses pressed against their smartphones now.....many wish they could just jump in.
Great thoughts! I totally agree!
The big problem with this thing is the marketing so in other words: how can you convince average people that Vision Pro is a so called solution for a so called "problem"? What exactly will Vision Pro do so much better that it's actually worth 3500 dollar plus tax? The tax iw 25% in some counties and the dollar is really expensive now in some counties.
Vision Pro will probably not become "that success", at least during the first years. The early adopters will buy it, no doubt! It's easy to sell almost anything to those guys. The hard thing is to sell this to "that average person".
Tim Cook could have putted Vision Pro on himself just at least to show how it look on him. And to show that battery. And explain that the demo videos is the only way to show how it works...
4:20 When only lets the people who they think will like it to try it on, there is a pretty good chance everyone who has tried it will like it.
They did let some critics of apple try it on so it's unlikely they are targeting specifically apple fanboys.
Interesting perspective on the sales and marketing potential of this product, but I disagree completely that the reception will be tepid. Given how expensive it it, yes, no one will just order this online without a test drive, so to speak. And the minute one tries it at a store, they will be blown away by it, as we have already seen at WWDC. In fact, I feel Apple will not be able to keep pace with the demand. This isn’t a 100 million units type of product like the iPhone, but it will sell in millions just the same.
Does anyone else think these new user handles are stupid
I think the vision Pro is a nice concept but I have not read or heard what problem this device solves. The iPhone solved the complexity of mobile devices at the time and made them simple for everyone. The iPad made basic computing for the masses simple. The Watch made notifications and health tracking simple so much so you could put the phone away. But this adds complexity to your day. To watch a movie you would have to plug it in to an outlet for any task you would have to plug it in. Thinking real world use this tethers you to a desk and add weight to your face and head, heat and sweat will be a challenge and how long before your ripping the thing off just so you can relax in the real world for a bit.
The product is inherently impossible to demo unless you're wearing it. Although watching Tim Cook on stage wearing the headset and saying "Wow!" and "This is amazing!" would be fun.
Microsoft did that back in the day and it was pretty wacky
They could’ve showed it kinda like how Microsoft showed off the HoloLens fr. Wasted opportunity imo
Just think the amount of data apple could sell if they track eye movement
They don't put it on to avoid the mind control
Wow man how long are you on vacation 😂😂
Is it vacation if I’m working?
Eyesight wasnt working and it would have destroyed the outside perspective of the thing
I'm not seeing the appeal of this because this is not an "everyday use device."
It's not like an Iphone that people use daily innovated from a daily used keypad phones.
It's not like an airpods innovated from a daily used wired headset.
It's not like a smartwatch innovated from a daily used normal watch.
Get it? It doesn't appeal to average consumers because they don't imagine themselves using it daily for practical reasons. 🤷♂️
People like 3D designers may find this product interesting, if the headset becomes light enough(or the apple glass gets released) and they release new headbands i could see an audience using it for fitness displaying calories burned, miles(if applicable), heart rate, and more. The headset at the moment isn't meant for consumers, apple isn't foolish to sell a 3,500 headset to their average consumers. It's meant for developers, people into new tech. This is the pro model, and that reinforces the idea that this may not be for average consumers.
@@arandomguy46ey should have a Apple glass for $429(at least less than $1000) that have a projection screen and runs on the iPhone, the primary goal is to let the masses adopt VR first, no one have done it, not everyone wearing it everywhere, a glass from factor with inputs like digit crown and touch pad and output with a screen alongside a battery and SSD, the iPhone and the glasses communicating with ultra wide band connections. Maybe some simple cameras and LiDAR for AR stuff. Then they can slowly phase out the iPhone with the ‘Pro’ version which is slightly bulkier but still glass from factor with similar design, have it’s own chip, with better camera system. They can also easily have a ring for motion detection, works nearly as well as the hand tracking tech now and cost way less. After the iPhone and the budget iPad is phased out, they can start phasing out Macs and iPad Air/Pros with desktop classed feature such as better connectivity and better performance. Carrying iPhone isn’t that big of a deal if it reduces a bunch of the weight. It make no sense to make an iPhone as bulky as possible so an M1 chip can be fitted in. The desktop experience is still there as it links to everything, you can’t carry a Mac Studio on the go but it’s there. Plus, iPad(excluding budget ones) and MacBooks offer comparable experience on the go.
@@arandomguy46 Then why is Tim Cook showcasing it in Good Morning America like it's a product for the masses? 😅😅😅
Agreed
The reason there wasn’t a demo because you don’t look at it you look through it. Haven’t you seen how silly those kids look when they are playing games on a VR headset.
I think the issue is that the replication currently isn’t great, seeing an unknown actor with the eyes is one thing. Seeing someone who you are familiar with them is something else.
this was wwdc ...there should be another event demoing it
Well I want one 😁
It's simple. Haters gonna hate.
While I respect your simplistic approach to making videos, there is a baseline and the audio in this vid is below that baseline. Please at least run it through voice isolation. The echo was just a bit too distracting.
So I think AR is the future but when and only when full AR capability fits into a standard pair of glasses/sunglasses!. When you can put a pair of glasses on have directions overlayed in the world in-front of you, get to a train station and it shows you where to go which platform, train times. If your in another country real time translation of written words you don’t understand and what people are saying!. With battery that lasts like half a week!.
All of the a clunky big and heavy headset it won’t be going anywhere!. Baring in mind these AR glasses that will replace the mobile phones/the iPhone, Mac computers, iPads. They need to have the technology to cram an iPhone, Mac Studio, iPad, sat nav with a battery that lasts days into the space and size of a regular pair of sunglasses!. It’s obvious with battery tech alone we are unfortunately decades from that point!. It’s definitely the future just not near future!.
No matters how perfect , how inmersived is , steel is a headset for 3500 us😊
I love you and have been watching you for years, but do you have any proof?
We can’t keep saying shit, without proof. You haven’t even tested the Vision Pro in a demo.
All I do here is speculate, if you’ve been watching me for years you’d know that
@@TailosiveTech true, I agree with that. But let’s not speculate on a products that’s not release yet. Because you know like I do people will run with the speculation.
That’s literally all I’ve speculated on for years 🤣 unreleased products
@@TailosiveTech yes, and your wrong most of the time. You admitted that several times.😂
It’s not the same as the Steve Jobs because the device is not even worth it people are going to look extra retarded tapping and pinching the air
Big flop coming up.
Apple lost everyones interest on the Vision Pro with the price $3499… and that’s starting from!… imagine if they just waited a few more years and they managed to reduce the size/weight by 50%, increased the battery without having a plug in battery pack and came in at $999… the thing will fly off the shelf.
Apple has a home run on their hands. When these actually hit the broader market, Apple won't be able to keep up with the initial demand....that will drive them to offer a lower cost, less feature-rich "non-pro" version called the Vision HOME...as soon as 8-12 months after the OG Vision Pros.....just wait. The idea that consumers will balk at being "isolated" from the outside world or rebel against wearing a headset is ludicrous. Just look at Americans now with their noses pressed against their smartphones...EVERYWHERE !! ... if they could, they would jump inside.