What's So Special About The Toyota 3S-GE?

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  • The 3S four-cylinder was so good that even a Supra Mk4 got to use it successfully. The new family would go under the acronym of LARSE - Lightweight Advanced Super Response Engine. It offers exemplary reliability and a great amount of power in both the turbo and non-turbo versions. And that sound is also worth a note among four-cylinders.
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  • @jamesgeorge4874
    @jamesgeorge4874 ปีที่แล้ว +286

    Yamaha started as a piano, and reed instrument manufacturer, in 1887, and they also make music with petrol, as is the case with many manufacturers of automoblie, such as Toyota, Volvo, Ford, etc. Great content, as always.

    • @thatcarguy0710
      @thatcarguy0710 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      so the LFA V10 was under Toyota x Yamaha or was it Lexus x Yamaha

    • @jamesgeorge4874
      @jamesgeorge4874 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@thatcarguy0710 Lexus, Toyota, they are the same company to me. Like Acura is a fancy Honda, or Lincoln is a fancy Ford, or Audi is a fancy VW, etc, etc.

    • @thatcarguy0710
      @thatcarguy0710 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jamesgeorge4874 speaking of those i never really saw where Pontiac was😂😂 some parts of Pontiac are like Chevy (Camaro and Trans Am) while some parts are Buick (3800 motor in Buick and Grand Prix models) 😂😂

    • @isaacsrandomvideos667
      @isaacsrandomvideos667 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep

    • @rdallas81
      @rdallas81 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@thatcarguy0710 3800 good engine.

  • @WarriorsPhoto
    @WarriorsPhoto ปีที่แล้ว +63

    I've driven several cars with the S series of engines. Yes they are wonderful power plants. I am glad people are still building with them.

  • @Gigalisk
    @Gigalisk ปีที่แล้ว +53

    If you're really a car nerd, you can spot the BEAMS engine inside of the Castrol TOMS Supra at the beginning of Gran Turismo 3 A-Spec. FOREVER i wondered why there was a 4-banger under the hood of a Supra, and now i know why! GOOD VIDEO.

    • @fullsendmarinedarwin7244
      @fullsendmarinedarwin7244 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      GT4 is still more fun than most modern simcade games. You can emulate it on PC with upscale graphics

    • @mitchhifi9192
      @mitchhifi9192 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wasn't that engine a TRD 503E?

    • @Gigalisk
      @Gigalisk ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mitchhifi9192 Yes! The Beams motor was also known as the 3S-GE, and 5 gens were made, the last going into the Altezza RS200 and the IS300.
      503E was the same block, but turbocharged, and engineered to FUCK.
      Best part?
      It's a Yamaha engine.

    • @anhiirr
      @anhiirr ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yep and on the license test where you get to drive it....its so well tuned/easy to drive than stacking creds on a supra rz. Now i know why too the weight/power/handling characteristics of that well tuned toms supra.

    • @Gigalisk
      @Gigalisk ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anhiirr SUCH a good car in that game.

  • @Kacpa2
    @Kacpa2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Finally 3S-GE. Had 1990 Celica with gen 2. It was lovely~

    • @Lagggerengineering
      @Lagggerengineering ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Was it fast enough? Did you crave more power or was it more than good enough?

    • @Kacpa2
      @Kacpa2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Lagggerengineering She was enough and felt fast at all times, but i kind of wanted more. My Celica was pretty worn out amd a bit of a lemon so maybe wasnt as fast as she could be. But best car to choose from others i looked into for the 1st car. Still miss driving her. Had to sell the car because my parents didnt want me driving a sports car plus i had electrical issues with the alternator controller burning up every couple.montha in the last year of owning the car, even on the last day before selling her. Had to replace that 3 times and it burned up again when new owner drove her home. Most likely alternator was the wrong kind. Maybe from 3S-FE or 5S-FE.
      Car is have now is both slower and feels much slower as its lifted up Subaru Impreza(XV/Crosstrek) But its got nice exhaust note and 4wd so its partially what i lacked in Celie(wanted GTFour so i could get it more sideways on snow especially) But i still miss her. Subaru isnt even remotely as joyful as she was to drive.(Tho still much better than other options, i couldve been forced to drive Nssan Quashquai or other soulless crossover instead so its not half-bad)
      TL;DR - Kind of, it was lovely, lively and always fun, but i eventually craved more and would like rear wheel drive i.e. MR2 with Beams/3rd gen, but with EGR removed. Would easily get into RS200 horsepower. Turbo wouldn't feel as nice and wouldnt climb the revs as eagerly.

    • @Lagggerengineering
      @Lagggerengineering ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Kacpa2 Well I am glad you had fun with it, I want one myself too.
      Who knows what was happening with the charging system that it kept destroying itself.
      And yeah, my problem with picking a car for myself is mostly that no other cars interest me much. This car combines everything I want for now, it looks incredible I love it, should be plenty fast, practical with the big boot and doesn't guzzle gas like crazy.
      Also it looks much simpler to work on than modern cars. Just parts availability is a bit of a concern for me. Ever had problems with that?
      Thanks for sharing your experiences!

    • @Kacpa2
      @Kacpa2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Lagggerengineering @Laggger Engineering Interestingly enough she got us home on little charge battery had, coughing and barely firing along from i presume like 9 or 8 volts crawling juat barely but enough to just arrive home.
      Makes You think that cara might be alive in some way after all 😅
      As for parts it wasnt really problematic for mechanical/engine/timing parts. Toyota had it in stock.
      What i had as mishaps was trying to use wheel hubs off a caldina thinking its 3s-fe/ge fit and according to given dimensiosn it should, but it had one differenece, kind of a collar that was much shorter than on celica hub so it grinded against the calipers with the brake rotor horribly. I ordered oem celica hub after that. It was fine. As for body and trim parts well Celica was common enough in weaker trims ao its out there. Bushings and other stuff alike was available including some urethane ones.
      It was on 18" rims which cause lots of rubbing and ride was very harsh cuz of low profile tyres so i switched to 6th gen celicas 15" alloys and had them painted black.
      Overall it was decent, side turn indicators fit from one of the landcruisers(mine started falling out of the fenders)
      Its just that i wish i had correct alternator in. Aside of that it was problem free.
      Seats were most comfortable ones i sat in in my entire life. Velour retro sport seats it has are just amazing, with headrest in lowest position it lets you rest the whole neck and head lile some theraupetic pillow, i miss it so much and every car annoy sht ehell of me with their stupid headrests that only let you rest with the back of the skull, never letting neck rest.
      i guess thats why these neck pillows are a thing to buy to have in the car.
      I also made a custom trunk floor from some plywood with my grandpa and it was cavernous(i had no spare wheel so wanted it flush with the trunk floor) I could fit an industrial vacuum cleaner in the back and sleep(tho not that comfortably cuz of the angle seats fold down to) Its pretty much a pick up truck or UTE in that sense 😅
      I miss it so much now...

    • @WholesaleTurbos
      @WholesaleTurbos ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had an st185 for a while, it was slow for me but was stock. it was comfortable though and probably fast for some guy going through mid life crisis. Out of all the cars i imported from japan this one probably took the longest to sell

  • @kiwidiesel
    @kiwidiesel ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Still got my 1998 RS200z in the shed, It comes out for a few skids every now and then. That 5th gen black top loves to sing.

  • @xUNKNOWNxAC94
    @xUNKNOWNxAC94 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I got the turbo beams (GTE).
    Now to install it in my camry .

  • @chesspiece81
    @chesspiece81 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    Now just imagine how good the 3.5 V6 would be if Yamaha had refined it for Toyota. As stock from Toyota it's a really good motor but with Yamaha tuning the heads and top end it could be even more impressive.

    • @Diesel257
      @Diesel257 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Yamaha should make heads for all of the JDM.

    • @inaNis_
      @inaNis_ ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Honestly the head and intake design of the 2GR is already quite good. All it really needs to get up and go are some more aggressive cams and springs, and a high flowing exhaust and you’re off to make 300+ pretty easily

    • @chesspiece81
      @chesspiece81 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@inaNis_ Yeah it is a really good motor but I wouldn't be surprised if it wouldn't be able to make another 60-80hp and rev to 7500-7700. It's top end on a 1GR 4.0 bottom end would be an awful lot of fun in a Tacoma X Runner, a 3.5 2GR Camry Lotus or swapped in a MR2.

    • @jeremyburleson6329
      @jeremyburleson6329 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bro my chic's 2012 Camry xse is wicked fast for a what it is.

    • @chesspiece81
      @chesspiece81 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jeremyburleson6329 I know the motor is stout for what it is, my daughter has a Highlander with the same motor and it's surprisingly strong.

  • @sirscrotum
    @sirscrotum ปีที่แล้ว +44

    My daily driver uses a 3s-gte. I've long argued that they're in fact underrated engines. Have a nice sound to them too....it's a 4cylinder, but when I pull up, you kinda know it means business. I'm still using day after day the one it left the factory with 28 years ago.

    • @Djkommode
      @Djkommode ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m as far as my stock fuel system to go. Can’t wait to go bigger.

    • @Djkommode
      @Djkommode ปีที่แล้ว

      @Jack Russelle Lewis every motor is a fart can 👏

    • @negativeindustrial
      @negativeindustrial 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Dude, mine is 33yo and never been open. 20PSI everyday.

    • @Ballsack44
      @Ballsack44 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How reliable has the gte been for you?

    • @sirscrotum
      @sirscrotum 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So far no major problems, i really like the car for the purposes of daily driving commuting and getting groceries, so its getting a major overhaul/refresher@@Ballsack44

  • @psiracing
    @psiracing ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for sharing and tagging our content! Much appreciated

  • @repairman22
    @repairman22 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Toyota + Yamaha = Super engine😍

  • @wukennylee3156
    @wukennylee3156 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That's one worthy engine, Nice research visioracer!

  • @CarputingYT
    @CarputingYT ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for another great video VisioRacer, love your channel keep it up your editing and commentary is easy to listen to and great!

  • @Eye4Eye85
    @Eye4Eye85 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool video, cheers for the tag on some of my footage you used 👍🏻

  • @eatsleepvag69
    @eatsleepvag69 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video sir. Toyota 3S-G is on of my favourite engine series

  • @oneaboveallferrarifan2725
    @oneaboveallferrarifan2725 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Everything Yamaha touches turned into gold

  • @user-qf7nm9tr8w
    @user-qf7nm9tr8w 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    my altezza with the blacktop beams is actually a perfect engine for me. 207 hp is more than enough for some good speed and to get those tires spinning, while also being very fuel efficient and reliable. actually amazing what toyota was able to do with this engine and car

  • @matthewnicholas6365
    @matthewnicholas6365 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Makes a change for someone to talk about a Toyota engine that isn't a 2JZ
    I had a 92 rev2 MR2 Turbo. I fitter a CT20b, aftermarket intercooler, intake, boost controller and piggyback ECU. Got a fairly reliable 300-320hp at around 15psi boost.

  • @dukie1616
    @dukie1616 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice! I really like these videos👏

  • @spinnetti
    @spinnetti ปีที่แล้ว +21

    My understanding is that Yamaha has pretty much always designed the high flow heads, with Toyota doing the low power ones internally. - So the "FE" narrow angle engines are in house, and the "GE" wide angle valves were the Yamaha designs. At least for all the Toyota's I've had since 1967. TVIS was never very effective. Having owned at least 20 Toyota's though, the Honda S2000 engine in both versions made a lot more output for the NA motors, and more modern turbo 4's from the Germans can easily make double the HP without internal mods.

    • @damianmatthee9745
      @damianmatthee9745 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But german engines die quick and ez.

  • @marsgal42
    @marsgal42 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Canadian content at 5:45, even if it's a day after our big day. 🇨🇦
    In Canada we can import anything we like as long as it's 15 years old - hence the 2007 D:5 Delica behind the Toyota.

  • @gRosh08
    @gRosh08 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool! Thanks for sharing.

  • @tobyrempel8952
    @tobyrempel8952 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A while back i asked for this video about this engine and you made a video
    Thank you so much VisioRacer😃
    Best youtube channel for cars and bike stuff research 🔝
    Very good video👌 i drive a toyota altezza with the 3sge beams black top, very good car

    • @VisioRacer
      @VisioRacer  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you, Toby!

  • @prenticelogerwell5542
    @prenticelogerwell5542 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the info dump on Celica‘s

  • @dwarf365
    @dwarf365 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:22 Miss you Aussie50. RIP brother :(

  • @jaredaikins7390
    @jaredaikins7390 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love my 2SE. More attitude than most 4cyl-8v's

  • @pedrongoka1759
    @pedrongoka1759 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ohhhh man....missing my *Toyota Altezza RS200* ...what a fun car to drive.....thumbs up for *Yamaha & Toyota*

  • @andyblue1991
    @andyblue1991 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad I am driving one!

  • @jensenjrs7045
    @jensenjrs7045 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    nice info from the video do h22a and 2zzge next

  • @chesspiece81
    @chesspiece81 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I didn't realize the connection between Yamaha and Toyota until I watched a video on it a few weeks ago. Nor did I fully realize how much Yamaha had been brought on to improve existing engines. I knew they had developed engines but didn't realize how much consultant work they have been called on to do.

    • @munnumkhalid
      @munnumkhalid ปีที่แล้ว

      They collaborate on high raving engines especially those with the with independent throttle bodies.

    • @paulg3336
      @paulg3336 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yamaha has also developed engines for Ford and Volvo

    • @chesspiece81
      @chesspiece81 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@paulg3336 Yeah I know but I thought they developed engines themselves. I didn't realize until recently that they developed the top end on existing engines. I always thought the SHO V6 and the Volvo V8 were ground up Yamaha designs.

    • @paulg3336
      @paulg3336 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chesspiece81 One of the earliest car engines Yamaha did was the Toyota GT2000 IL6

    • @tiagofigueiredo2529
      @tiagofigueiredo2529 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@paulg3336 Helped making the engine, didn't do it.
      All they have made was tuning existing engines or help Toyota in the development of engines. 👍

  • @rhubarbpie2027
    @rhubarbpie2027 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3SGE TO DA MOOOOOON! Love my Altezza :)

  • @kindbud
    @kindbud ปีที่แล้ว

    the 2GR, 4GR, are great engines! I had a friend who ran open headers on his is250 awd and it sounded mean especially doing 120mph

  • @indyrock8148
    @indyrock8148 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a 86 Celica with tvis 3sge manual.
    It pulled strong through 6,000.
    Miss that car

  • @TheHVfreak
    @TheHVfreak ปีที่แล้ว

    Really like your videos about different engines. Would be nice to see one about the mercedes OM606

    • @VisioRacer
      @VisioRacer  ปีที่แล้ว

      Most likely to be made in a near future.

  • @Dan-mj4ux
    @Dan-mj4ux ปีที่แล้ว

    owning two Toyota Altezzas, lovely machines

    • @fabianshamano5953
      @fabianshamano5953 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol kindred spirit, I'm custom building one to take 3SGTE gen 5 ST246 with a manual swap. The other in leaving stock

  • @alphakky
    @alphakky ปีที่แล้ว +12

    As good as the S engine is, don't leave out the T. Sure Corollas used the 2T-C, but it evolved into the 4T-GTE that Toyota used in the LeMans 85C and the 151E engines.

  • @panicwire
    @panicwire 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey that's my car in the video! Awesome!

  • @dksfollies4772
    @dksfollies4772 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The most special thing about 3S toyota engine is that it is installed in my kia sportage 2002 model . Plus this engine is a work horse so every small transport truck in our area has the 3s engine installed bexause it is powerful and does not give lots of trouble . However my engine misfires a lot and also has heating problems . And it is newly rebuilt one . With best quality parts available . Trying to figure out the problems and soon hopefully wil be resolved . It is recommended to use the largest and thickest possible radiator with this engine though because it is a very powerful engine . I am also getting mine replaxed with one from toyota pickup 1984 to 1996 as soon i will have enough saved

  • @HomebrewSubaru
    @HomebrewSubaru ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Worthy engine. Always appreciate your research Visio 👍

    • @adewhite9876
      @adewhite9876 ปีที่แล้ว

      Then I respectfully suggest that they please do their research a little better...
      Almost every power figure quoted in this video is slightly wrong.
      For example, a beams blacktop does not make 210 bhp, it's 210 PS.
      A redtop makes 200 PS, not 200 bhp, and so on.
      This is a fairly common mistake, but if you're trying to educate people with a video, well, you kinda have get the details right.
      Enjoyable nonetheless, nice to see people spreading some 3s love.

    • @HomebrewSubaru
      @HomebrewSubaru ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@adewhite9876 brake horsepower is not mentioned in the video. 1 pferdestarke = .98 hp as well as he mentions there be a variance in power levels. Not sure why you think the research is inadequate

    • @adewhite9876
      @adewhite9876 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well for me personally, adequate research would have been either fact checking Toyota's published & readily available vehicle/engine specs, or sourcing my information from them in the first place.
      It's called good practice.
      Also, 1 PS is is as you say 0.98 hp, but that's entirely my point.
      He does indeed quote hp, not bhp but then gives the value for PS.
      200PS is not, never has been & never will be 200hp. Or 200bhp.
      I like my facts more than 98% accurate.

    • @adewhite9876
      @adewhite9876 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's all good though really, it's just every car I've owned for the last 20 years has been 3s powered so I'm fairly familiar with them. :-)

    • @HomebrewSubaru
      @HomebrewSubaru ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adewhite9876 I’m not sure what you’re trying to explain though. Did you feel all engines of a specific model output the same values? I feel a 2% variance would be more than acceptable, as they say no two things are alike.

  • @EM6285
    @EM6285 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Curious thing is that 3S-GE / GTE share the same bore & stroke numbers with the 2JZ engine series
    Could it be that the 3S engine family inspired the 2JZ engine family?
    An the trend now is to search for the stronger 2.2L 5S-FE engine blocks and top them with 2.0L 3S-GE / GTE cylinder heads to have the 5S-GTE hybrid.

    • @nobodysfavourite6953
      @nobodysfavourite6953 ปีที่แล้ว

      :o

    • @RENO_K
      @RENO_K ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Could be true
      Since that's basically how most manufacturers make larger engine
      Make best small engine
      Copy and paste it
      That's what cosworth did, I'm not surprised if that's what Toyota did too

    • @pan17awa
      @pan17awa ปีที่แล้ว

      if it does share the same bore & stroke numbers with the 2JZ engine, why does it have different CCs? asking, genuinely curious

    • @Zelectrocutica
      @Zelectrocutica ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Similar approach to cosworth, they design a good solid small engine and then add another piston until reach the design goal.
      If you looking at 3S and 2J the design is very very similar, these approach not only cosworth do but BMW really like to do as well but they cut 6 to 4 because.... they like golden number 50:50 in basically every race car back in 70-80s
      Note rule of thumb basically for all toyota engine. if the engine has "G" in their engine designation name, mean performance base cylinder head design by yamaha, if "F" mean economy base cylinder head.

    • @Mkc_300
      @Mkc_300 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      In Russia we have a 1,5jz-gte. It's a engine block of 1jz-ge with head from 2jz-gte.

  • @ZoneTelevision
    @ZoneTelevision ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The 2JZ owes it's success to the 3SGE. Never mess with anyone who has a piped 3S motor no matter what you have.

    • @ykbladee6021
      @ykbladee6021 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah right

    • @ZoneTelevision
      @ZoneTelevision ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ykbladee6021 It will crush kill and destroy anything including the Honda "k" motors. Make dog meat out of any Honda Motor F1 being the exception.

    • @teamempressive7730
      @teamempressive7730 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I do have a 1979 Datsun b210 swaped with a 3SGE beams this thing rips.

  • @Zsword92
    @Zsword92 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yamaha did wonders for Toyota. Beams, 1uz, 1jz etc

    • @PlayinWithMahWii
      @PlayinWithMahWii ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Can't forget the 2000 GT and the 2zz! VisioRacer should cover Yamaha and Toyota's full history in a video.

    • @silverpairaducks
      @silverpairaducks ปีที่แล้ว +4

      4age 20v

  • @MrLongbowhunter
    @MrLongbowhunter ปีที่แล้ว

    Thx man

  • @LongPeter
    @LongPeter ปีที่แล้ว +1

    9:20 ok, some beautiful bastard decided to modify a Figaro. I want to know more.

  • @StormHawksHD
    @StormHawksHD ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i'm putting a 3sge 1st gen head on my 2sc block, and will be running quad weber carbs. Will see how much power we can make.

  • @ToreDL87
    @ToreDL87 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great engine when tuned with a mind to driveability and durability.
    What kills it is people seeing 300-400hp versions in rally and figuring it means it can take 3x more power than that.
    As a result, most of them are boat anchors.

    • @richardprydden2851
      @richardprydden2851 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      my 3sfe block with a 3sgte head and a 68mm turbo makes around 900hp and does a quarter mile in 9.1 seconds at 156 mph although it is highly modified and i doubt it will be anygood on a 200 lap race lol

    • @ToreDL87
      @ToreDL87 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@richardprydden2851 As I said, most of them 😂
      You know what you're doing and don't over-stress it, different thing :)
      Also, that is a stout snail for sure!

    • @fabianshamano5953
      @fabianshamano5953 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richardprydden2851 what car did you drop it in, 9.1 is sick. Do you have info on this build?

    • @richardprydden2851
      @richardprydden2851 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Celica st205 gt4 , click my name . Awd with a dogbox etc , 8s soon .

  • @lucaballardini1
    @lucaballardini1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I want a what's so special about 2zz-ge

    • @joegreene6250
      @joegreene6250 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pretty sure he already made a video about the 2ZZ.

    • @lucaballardini1
      @lucaballardini1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@joegreene6250 it was part of another compilation but no dedicated video

  • @cosmicjack1215
    @cosmicjack1215 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Ulez & Sidick khan because now I have to sell my MR2 Redtop because it's not allowed in London.

  • @oljackie35
    @oljackie35 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3sge + mr2 = perfection

  • @mr220v
    @mr220v ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought about going back with a beams 3sge in my mk1 mr2 recently, but the 2arfe did similar things and was waaaay cheaper.

  • @Shadowdarknessone
    @Shadowdarknessone ปีที่แล้ว

    Just bought an 3sgte gen3 yes theyre blocks crack. But only the early blocks because of casting errors

  • @munnumkhalid
    @munnumkhalid ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These are excellent engines but are now very rare. Especially where I live they were all the rage in 2000s along with 4age black top and silvertops

    • @dejdehddh
      @dejdehddh ปีที่แล้ว

      not rare in AUS/NZ

    • @juciyjcurtis7938
      @juciyjcurtis7938 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not rare in South Africa plenty in ke70 rollas

  • @salman42655
    @salman42655 ปีที่แล้ว

    3sge is an emotion

  • @wolfsniper1258
    @wolfsniper1258 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do a video about the 2zzge!!!

  • @aditya-br3kg
    @aditya-br3kg ปีที่แล้ว

    can you make a video about the K20Z engine series ? or current Volvo 4 cylinder engine (T8 or D5) ?

  • @TL98
    @TL98 ปีที่แล้ว

    3S-GE + T23 Celica = perfection

    • @arcanevoid9199
      @arcanevoid9199 ปีที่แล้ว

      T23 celica is better with the 2zz

  • @JustinJohnson-xb5gy
    @JustinJohnson-xb5gy ปีที่แล้ว

    You forgot to mention the WRC st205's with built in antilag system :D

  • @LSDdreams808
    @LSDdreams808 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got a yamaha raptor 700r i can confirm that yamaha makes amazing performance engines

  • @dksfollies4772
    @dksfollies4772 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can any one suggest a gear box to fit with 3s fe engine installed in my kia sportage 2002 . Presently it has the sportage gear box with bell modified to fit the 3s engine .

  • @michaelkosior391
    @michaelkosior391 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    From 5:14 - 5:23 and 5:39 - 5:48 that's my actual Altezza LOL

    • @cebuwulfkiba2495
      @cebuwulfkiba2495 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have the IS300 and I have to say, I want it with a Beams engine instead of the 2J

  • @boboutelama5748
    @boboutelama5748 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would have liked such adaptations for the 2JZ-Ge. It makes around 218 hp to the crank, when this thing does... the same. Just imagine a high revving 2JZ-ge making 300hp. It would be such a beast.

  • @fabianshamano5953
    @fabianshamano5953 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ah, so this is why Americans use the 5S block cause the gen 3 3sgte block in the MR2 is weaker. In doing a 3SGTE gen 5 ST246 build and was thinking of swapping the block cause everyone kept saying 5S block. Now thanks to this I might not have to, thanks for the video

  • @fidelcatsro6948
    @fidelcatsro6948 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First to come here to watch Visio after watching Huqsvarna 701 supermoto on youtube!! 🐱👍🏿

  • @dieselscience
    @dieselscience ปีที่แล้ว

    This same kind of "joint design" was done between Mercedes-Benz and Porsche. The came up with the 500E, the world's fastest production sedan.

  • @pocaluz6631
    @pocaluz6631 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I was thinking of swapping my mk2 supra with a 3sge beams and after watching this I think it's a go 😅 now time for the spending 😮‍💨

  • @callumroper7251
    @callumroper7251 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The Toyota 4-pot that went toe to to with B and K series Hondas and RB26 Nissans on the circuit. The 2JZ wishes it had the 3S-G's record on track (drag racers need not apply here)

    • @rhubarbpie2027
      @rhubarbpie2027 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The JGTC Supras had 3SGTE engines, as they could make the same HP in their class, but the engine weighed less and the front/ rear weight distribution was better.

    • @callumroper7251
      @callumroper7251 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rhubarbpie2027
      Pretty much the reason I brought it up. Why take a weight penalty for 2 extra cylinders and possibly compromised handling?

    • @RJ6AV6
      @RJ6AV6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol you forgot about the SR20VE and SR16VE lol go study more buddy 🤣

    • @rhubarbpie2027
      @rhubarbpie2027 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RJ6AV6 SR20s sound like a tractor 🤣🤣🤣

    • @RJ6AV6
      @RJ6AV6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rhubarbpie2027 maybe the DEs but the VEs sound good

  • @ishtubol2292
    @ishtubol2292 ปีที่แล้ว

    do u have video for 4g63 engine thanks

  • @DragzMR2
    @DragzMR2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Always dreamed of having a beams engine in my mr2.
    Too rare and too expensive, got myself a '99 3sge and an LSD tranny so should be good

  • @Funktastico
    @Funktastico ปีที่แล้ว

    5:42 Gen 5 BEAMS not used on 98-99 NA mr2 ?

  • @RPS13DRlFT
    @RPS13DRlFT ปีที่แล้ว +1

    cool thing about the altezza rs200 is 4th gear is like the 3.5 gear that Keiichi Tsuchiya has in his ae86

    • @arrbee4981
      @arrbee4981 ปีที่แล้ว

      And 6th is similarly short after 5. Crap on the highway because it's at 3700rpm at highway speed. But, it will cruise at 30mph in 6th at about 1600rpm. Economy :D

    • @vilperi29
      @vilperi29 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whan I drive my altezza on the highway the rpm is over 4k :)

    • @tacoganglaflare9488
      @tacoganglaflare9488 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@vilperi295 or 6 speed?

    • @vilperi29
      @vilperi29 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tacoganglaflare9488 6 speed. The gearing is just so short + 8k redline

    • @tacoganglaflare9488
      @tacoganglaflare9488 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@vilperi29Thann you and I hear ya, I was just looking at an altezza and was worried about high rpm’s at highway speed.

  • @AlienLivesMatter
    @AlienLivesMatter ปีที่แล้ว

    The closed deck, cast block sure looks like 70's and 80's Mercedes Benz in my eyes.

  • @toycoma98
    @toycoma98 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Did Rod Millens pikes peak tacoma have this engine?

  • @gdsrj924
    @gdsrj924 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would love to see you do a video of nissans CA18DET. The true grandfather of the RB series and better than the overrated SR20

  • @boostedwilliam8923
    @boostedwilliam8923 ปีที่แล้ว

    i think the 3S-GTE is the most best sounding 2.0l turbo engine, sounds throaty, deep, and angry.

  • @senatorchinchilla5389
    @senatorchinchilla5389 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its so odd to me that Toyota/Yamaha were building these as well as the 1zz/2zz series at basically the same time. It seems like such a huge overlap, at least for the NA 3S-GE. I'd love to have a 3S-GTE some day. That would be awesome!

    • @loganamurray64
      @loganamurray64 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tbf the 3S was out and around before the ZZ’s were even designed, and the ZZ’s were Toyota’s smaller 4 cylinders, replacing the A engines (4A and 7A mainly) while the 3S is Toyota’s larger I4

    • @movinmetal2596
      @movinmetal2596 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The big difference between them is that ZZs had VVTL-i and not just VVT-i
      This variable timing and lift system allows the JDM 2ZZ to hit 8600rpm!

    • @loganamurray64
      @loganamurray64 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@movinmetal2596 Only the 2ZZ has VVTL-i, the 1, 3 and 4 only have VVT-i

  • @danielfulop
    @danielfulop ปีที่แล้ว

    does it really have an automated choke?

  • @Ready_Fire_Aim
    @Ready_Fire_Aim ปีที่แล้ว

    Caldina GT-T Represent!

  • @boerharms2209
    @boerharms2209 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you should feature the C20XE opel engine!

    • @jinglemyberries866
      @jinglemyberries866 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is the C30SE any good? All i know about it is it sounds amazing, are they good engines?

    • @boerharms2209
      @boerharms2209 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jinglemyberries866 yup! solid engines! just make sure that you plane the head correctly, and torque the head studs properly. other than that, they're perfect.
      powerband of the 24V C30SE sits more towards the upper end of the revrange compared to the older 12V engines, which have all the low down torque.

    • @jinglemyberries866
      @jinglemyberries866 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@boerharms2209 cool! Thanks for the info man

  • @JoyManoppo
    @JoyManoppo ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the 3sge used in lexus is200 too?

    • @arcanevoid9199
      @arcanevoid9199 ปีที่แล้ว

      3sge version is called an altezza not a is200 but the same car basically

  • @amma_9902
    @amma_9902 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes

  • @silverpairaducks
    @silverpairaducks ปีที่แล้ว

    I miss my blacktop aw11 I built.

  • @lol911000
    @lol911000 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi just wondering is it not normal that you have that name of those who support you I do not see their name.
    A one of them?

    • @VisioRacer
      @VisioRacer  ปีที่แล้ว

      I started doing that, yeah. Unfortunately and shame on me, I forgot to do it this time...

  • @Where_is_Waldo
    @Where_is_Waldo ปีที่แล้ว

    I always thought the 3S was the best engine Toyota ever released in production cars. Now I know why.

  • @EM6285
    @EM6285 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    An then HONDA came with the 2.0L K20 that has kicked-out the 3S engije out of the tunning scene and drag race scene.

    • @loganamurray64
      @loganamurray64 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol, the 3S was already a very old engine by then. That’s like saying the LS killed off the small block Fords lmao

  • @Grimm-Gaming
    @Grimm-Gaming ปีที่แล้ว

    I miss my SW20

  • @josearias7022
    @josearias7022 ปีที่แล้ว

    Toyota altezza 280t
    1
    ● Maximum power: 280 hp /7600 and vyshe/7600 rpm (depending on specification)
    ● Maximum torque 30.0 kg.m/3600 rpm (depending on specification)
    2
    Engine Turbo Kit
    ● (Turbo kit) PC Tuning-Computer 280T with an exclusive software
    ● cylinder head gasket metal, T = 1.6mm ●
    ● metal exhaust manifold, 280T (exclusive)
    ● stainless front pipe. SUS304 280T (exclusive)
    ● rear tube stainless. SUS304 280T (exclusive)
    ● intercooler 280T (exclusive)
    ● injector TOM'S (increased volume)
    ▲ radiator cap TOM'S (type: High Pressure)
    ● inlet pipe aluminum, 280T (exclusive)
    ● Chassis kit clutch (manual transmission only), two discs, flywheel included
    ● suspension springs and dampers 280T Spec
    ▲ brake pads TOM'S PFC (only front)
    ▲ brake hoses TOM'S Stain Mesh
    ▲ Wheel TOM'S Crono 7.5JJx18 +48
    ▲ Tyres Michelin Pilot
    ▲ Salon lever handle CAT TOM'S Shift knob JTCC
    ▲ Seat Sparco Star ▲
    ● Body aero kit front lower spoiler Uretan Styrene
    ● side skirts Uretan Styrene ●
    ● rear lower spoiler Uretan Styrene ●
    ● rear wing Uretan Styrene ●
    ● - Standard ▲ - Option
    3
    Torque (chart)
    4
    Power (graph)
    5
    TOM'S PFC
    6
    Brake hoses
    7
    Suspension Member Brace (power suspension)
    8
    TOM'S Shift knob JTCC (lever handle PPC)
    9
    Addresses and phone numbers of service centers
    10
    Limited Edition 100 pcs.
    on each machine serial number from 1 to 100, good piece
    11
    There is finally a long-awaited turbine.
    Initially, the highest efficiency

  • @i_swear_i_have_a_life_4120
    @i_swear_i_have_a_life_4120 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At 4500 rpm those manual altezzas feel like theyre flying

  • @dragosm.7881
    @dragosm.7881 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    do the c20xe

  • @st184rc
    @st184rc ปีที่แล้ว

    I made the mistake in 2003 with trying to build a 5sfe for my celica

  • @BrendonHart1
    @BrendonHart1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Actually a watch maker was Yamaha's first endeavor.

  • @TheShamiester
    @TheShamiester ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I own a 3sge 3sgte and 4age blacktop. Yamaha ftw

  • @joeleonard9965
    @joeleonard9965 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro wtf I was buying one soon to swap in my E30... Don't give people ideas! The prices are still reasonable!

  • @progamerkiller64
    @progamerkiller64 ปีที่แล้ว

    They work well on the Toyota vitz rs modified :D
    Answer:O

  • @Xdarkstar07X
    @Xdarkstar07X ปีที่แล้ว

    Should’ve told them about the 5SGTE

  • @rzaultra165
    @rzaultra165 ปีที่แล้ว

    cara toy0ta dapat membeli saham ymha, awalnya ngajak kerjasama buat dekatin, lama2 dibeli dan akhinrya pindah ke mesin bmw.... udh bnyk pabrikan yg dibeli tyota..... jadi sbnrnya bukan ymha yg bersaing sama h0nda tapi toy0ta dibelakangnya, krna h0nda pernah nawarin diri ke t0y0ta, namun ditolak, tapi lama2 h0nda malah berdiri sendiri dan bikin t0yota mikir keras agar tidak dilewati...salah satunya membeli bnyk perusahaan kendaraan untuk berkembang, terutama sepeda motor....

  • @johnholland3476
    @johnholland3476 ปีที่แล้ว

    They was a mercury sable/ taurus that got a yamaha engine wonder if similiar

    • @2URLex
      @2URLex ปีที่แล้ว

      I think Yamaha was involved with a couple engines on the SHO

  • @googleuser6440
    @googleuser6440 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Subtitles needed...couldn't understand a word

  • @gtgodbear6320
    @gtgodbear6320 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm surprised nobody's utilized a V4 in a car? I bet you could build a super strong V4 1,000hp+. Beefy valve train with two cylinders per bank

    • @arcanevoid9199
      @arcanevoid9199 ปีที่แล้ว

      theres a reason its not been done by many companies, i4 is just better

  • @Seymour-40
    @Seymour-40 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    7а fe motor is one of the nicest motors.... Tell something about this!

  • @dannyr3346
    @dannyr3346 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beams are rowdy sounding slow ass engines

  • @Darkfac3
    @Darkfac3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i think that the 3s ge beams gen 4 is a really good option for do a turbo or supercharged setup (maybe with a pressure of 7 psi) with a good budget

    • @tabryis
      @tabryis ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Con rods are weaker