I really appreciate you playing "good" decks. Wild is a format with an emphasis on variety, so why ignore the more prevalent decks as well? I remember your chat had a similar response when you played Quest Rogue. Honestly, really enjoy watching you play any deck, keep it up please
After playing against this so much in Standard (Fel DH) and Wild (Pirate Warrior) I can safely say that while this is great vs slow decks, in more tempo decks the Warlock does more then half of the work for you lol
Imagine this against face hunter in wild. There's nothing this deck can do against face hunter who just wants to see them dead. It's so one sided the user of suicide warlock stops playing self damaging cards to stay alive and ignore progress. It's been that way since darkglare was used in wild since last year. I hated playing against it as Raza priest but when I switched to literally any kind of fast hunter deck, they either concede on turn 1 or die by turn 4-6
@@ilovecaulk2542 of course my friend. When warlock deals half their own hp as damage to themselves, your work is cut short. Makes for some quick and efficient grinding. Also I believe reno decks are dying. Its become very aggro oriented after this expansion that any and all midrange/control deck can't survive. Most people's games are ending before turn 10. With that statistic it's better to cut down any expensive cards in the deck. I am just happy to see rez priest suffering
Have you seen odd DH? The only cards over 1 mana are Stiltstepper, Leeroy, Arcane Golem and Acrobatics. There are so many low cost, hyper efficient cards in the game right now that you can fill like half of most non-control decklists with 1-drops and you'll still be omitting half of the good ones.
That stream got real maldy real quick. I like how people who play standard cry that they are playing solitaire, meanwhile in wild quest warlocks develop a board with 7 minions on turns 2-3
I think you forgot that they are 2 different game modes. Having something that powerful in standard is definitely a problem, even if it isn't good in wild.
It’s honestly refreshing to watch you play a strong meta deck. And I wish you posted more of them on TH-cam. I don’t have a ton of time to play wild/watch streams so sometimes it’s nice to see how a strong deck is properly played and I’m not going in blind if I queue into a wild game.
It feels like this deck is tier zero, not only because it's quite strong but because it's warping the meta significantly. Personally I'm just tired of darkglare
Here to express that I really enjoy your content regardless of whether your deck choice is off the wall nonsense or top tier meta. The best part of these videos is you @Roffle
@JKItsMeAlGore Sounds like pretty whiney excuse from Someone who is an asshole and a weak ass Person, but maybe thats Just me. (Btw you should try talking to ur first woman to Test your claims ;))
The only times I’ve really seen this deck lose is when someone builds the deck poorly or misplays. Smart players with adequate healing can navigate that deck to wins against just about anything in both formats. Not to mention it’s a bit of solitaire.
@@aaaa-ni9hc You know the 4 mana 2-6 that makes things you draw cost health? So basically everything they play is free and deals damage to me, and everything I play early on is killed by their cheap, self-damaging or self-healing removal.
Eh not really it raised the power level a bit but no more then any other set DnT paladin & secret mage didn’t even change in this set and they are definitely still tier 1 if you need any kind of evidence beyond the word of someone who plays wild every day
@@babassoonist557 secret mage and raza priest have a sub 45% winrate at legend currently, there are old decks that are good but this was a noticeable spike
I greatly enjoyed watching you pilot this. Even though people pressure you when they aren't happy, there are people like me who enjoy this deck, support your decisions regardless, and quietly hit that like button.
What you said about playing a meta deck to understand how to beat it is so true. If I don't have the cards to play it, I at least try to find gameplay videos of it to watch when I come up against a frustrating deck. I've lost count of how many times I've Discovered a "bad" card (for example, Pyroblast on turn 4 in a deck with no cost reduction) but knew if I played a little differently than I might in another class matchup that my bad card would turn into a win-con rather than the insta-lose main decking it would be.
I agree with roffle, that darkglare is the primary problem, but it is still very strong without it. I play a slower version of this deck with a fatigue game plan, but I hardly even reach fatigue, because I usually win before that or get burst down by aggro.
I have specifically built an aggro deck against quest warlock and still got my ass beaten repeatedly. I seriously don't have an answer against this deck. All aggro minions have low health, warlock can clear them easily for 1 mana while healing at the same time. Can tempo out 8/8s for 0 mana on turn 2 while having excess mana at the end of the turn. Pirate warrior(without quest) can't match it. Kingsbane can't match it, any paladin deck can't match it, it can out aggro the aggro Druid, face hunter can't kill you fast enough and can't clear your board full of 8/8s on turn 2/3. Mage and odd dh are not quick enough to kill it before turn 5. Odd warrior is not good even if it controls the board, quest removes the win condition which is fatique. I'm seriously at a loss.
@@Stratovariuification From my experience at least Kingsbane fares quite well against it. Also Roffle recently played Pirate Shadowform Priest and farmed Darkglare Questline Warlocks with it. So it is not unbeatable, but it is still strong enaugh to be not healthy for the game.
Play what you want and have fun with it. People need to stop acting like others are bad just for certain decks. It's childish and so black and white. People need to realize they aren't owed anything from the people they watch and it's so toxic to get mad at them for playing what they want to play. They act like the streamer wouldn't get burnt out if they had to play nothing but what they were told to play. Just enjoy the content or leave, it's not difficult.
@@nzoth9159 I'm fine with secret mage on the ladder tho, yes they're annoying to play against but they're not unbeatable if you play correctly and have a good understanding of the game, and that's coming from a guy who just moved to playing wild half a year ago control matchup can be fun and all sometimes but not for everyone, and imagine playing a control deck against odd warrior who ropes every turn, no one like that shit
I put this in a control shell with Jaraxxus and it's been a blast. Can progress the quest with bonking minions and post completion you can bonk big minions for big damage to face
I actually really appreciated the opinion on the conversation regarding decks like darkglare and other solitaire style decks. They do get bullied out a lot of the time which is good, but you still get these pocket metas where you face a whole ton of those decks with no reprieve. I mostly play standard and I see an unhealthy amount of quest mage which I do not like playing against in the slightest, I can beat it most of the time, but I just don't enjoy the games a lot of the time. At any rate I think Roffle is right regarding the decks that beat it, but it definitely isn't the best feeling when those decks are very common on the ladder.
Hey Roffle, I think it's my first time commenting a video of yours, I've never been able to catch up a stream of yours because of my work, but just... Wow... I can't believe the amount of stress you have to deal with sometimes just because of a game, you are doing a great job and I think the big majority of your followers think the same way, have a lovely day my man! ☺️
This is litterally what i am facing 40-45% of all games (I have made a list for myself). I typically only win if I have lucky draw with mozaki otk. Other than that I lose every single time. Honestly I have never before in my 6 years of hearthstone seen a deck that is so overturned. I hope it gets nerfed, because it is no fun when you almost have to play one particular deck to remain in legend’s top positions.
When you post a video every day like you do, playing a good, t1 deck for a day or two is a treat and doesn't feel like too much. Thank you for working so hard and doing the variety of content that you do!
Grr I can’t my believe my favorite game has darkglare in it, or something Great vid as always. As a f2p player, I’ve given up trying to keep up having all the good decks in the meta, which means I play vicariously through streamers/youtubers. I had no clue what questline darkglare warlock was before this video, and now I know. Thanks
i appreciate seeing this deck, i dont play wild so i really want to see the Boogeyman deck in the format in action, because everyone mention it but no one post viedeos of the deck in youtube pre expantion
Keeping playing whatever deck is the most fun for you. I watch your videos daily and will continue to do so, regardless of the deck you choose. Love your content!
The other demon seed lock had exact lethal... Tour Guide into quest completion into tamsin into deal 5 gain 5 armor: Roffle was at 13 so, given there was Brann, -10 and double attack for another 3.
I feel like in Hearthstone you have to acknowledge that you're either playing a deck to win or playing to have fun, but only sometimes both. Questline warlock is strong but not completely devoid of counters. If you're intent on winning, you can either play another tier 1 deck, the questline itself, or something that counters the questline like face hunter. If you are just in it to have fun, play what you want and acknowledge that other people are playing what they want, too. And if you want to do neither and complain then I'm not sure what you're expecting. It's boring to face the same decks again and again but that's happened in wild for a long time.
Well- about the winrate thing with tier 1 and sub tier 1 decks- my case is a bit special, i actualy play the tier 1 warlock deck back from 2018 which to this day has a 100% winrate against priest for some reason. Tier 1 decks still remain really good even if its outdated in my opinion.
At this point, I'm utterly convinced self-damage Warlock should never be a thing in Wild. It warps the format every single time it comes up and it's almost never interactive.
darkglare turning self damage into mana cheat is cool conceptually but (1) this makes cards which are balanced around being bundled with a downside simply insanely strong and (2) providing potentially infinite mana to work with is fundamentally uninteractive. the new quest gives the deck a win condition, but it takes a bunch of setup that frequently puts you at a very low life total, so it honestly isn't even that good of a win condition. darkglare is the real problem imo
This deck is strong, Tier 1 no doubt but like all deck it has counter, burn /aggro deck like Questline/Face hunter, Shadow priest, Questline Druid, no-minion burn mage ( idk if other people than me play it but it's actually pretty good probably worse than APM mages but easier to play ). I assume non-questline Pirate warrior also beat it most of the time.
The important thing is, are you having fun, are you enjoying the game. Yes winning tends to up "enjoyment" for people, but if you like the deck and don't care about climbing or losing then who cares. I was playing a sword of truth hunter deck, won my first game with it, and the dude complained that he lost to me and I wasn't going to get anywhere. Don't care, it was fun, still enjoy playing it.
I still remember Roffle saying that quest would be too slow in DarkGlare for making people lose a mulligan spot, i guess than winning the game instantly wjen completed is worth more than a mulligan card
The only 2 cards that can mess with your opponents deck to stop combo are weasel tunneler and the bad luck albatross. Can we have a hearthstone developer show us how to use these 2 cards to stop these warlocks please, i want to see their thought process.
people are not mad at others for playing a deck that is really hard to counter in the STANDARD META. they are mad that other decks cannot keep up with the power creep of said deck. I for one have seen decks outside of aggro that absolutely destroy decks, like OTKS, however the difference is that MOST (90%) of OTK needs longer than 5 turns for it to happen. Also in some cases the fatigue version of this deck kind of defeats the purpose of being a card game when you have no cards, but hey we've seen mecha'thun decks
I currently I am playing regular DarkGlare Warlock, and have yet to lose to against the questline Version. I also have the quest, however I feel like even if you don't have it the deck is more or less the same. While with quest U have a second win con
Re: tier 1 vs tier 5 The issue, as I see it, is not necessarily that tier 5 decks should automatically have a 50% winrate against tier 1 decks - that's patently ridiculous. The issue I see is that the matchmaking isn't successfully weeding out the tier 5 players to match against each other, and instead is matching players who exclusively play tier 5 decks against players who flat out suck, but are using tier 1 decks. Acti-Blizzard *have* the patents necessary to do matchmaking based on what deck you're currently playing with (it's a patent on using matchmaking to drive microtransaction sales) and they're not using it to match shitty decks against shitty decks, they're just matching shitty decks against shitty players, hoping it boosts one or the other's MMR to boost their likelyhood to buy more packs.
doing matchmaking based on the decks you're playing would be way harder, way more unintuitive, and open them up to all sorts of criticism. MMR is fair. if you play enough games, your matches will eventually average 50% WR regardless of what decks you or your opponent play. doesn't mean every individual match will be a 50/50, but that wouldn't be the case even if you had a magical matchmaking system that matched tier 5 decks together.
15:13, playing the Crystalizer would have finished the quest and the Imp would have given you 3 dmg for the next progress. The way you played it, you "lost" 4 dmg on the Crystalizer because they got wasted.
Hey roffle, as shown in the video you have to deal with a loooot of putting up with people and honestly I don't know how you continue to have such a very consistent schedule without taking a break. Speaking of, if you need to take a bream please do, especially if it starts effecting your mental health. Take care of yourself and your real fans will support you. Thanks for all the great content!
While I think it's stupid, I can understand chat's frustration. The other day I queued into quest warlock, no joke, 7 out of 8 games and just stopped playing for the day as a result
While I don’t like how oppressive this deck is I do like how a terrible/meme card like UnLicensed Apothecary suddenly became extremely good because of this deck.
If you want to beat darkglare then play one of the decks that roffle says can beat it......then hope your opponent doesnt know how to play darkglare and you should be good to go 😀
Wild is just wild about which blizzard almost doesn’t care, as illustrated by the grave ruin problem…. I am playing mozaki ignite and doing just fine in my platinum ranks… you win some you lose some
Man im here just to see cards go wooshh i dont play since 2017 and im still watching heartstone cuz is fun when people have cards lol keep it up! Much love
@@jensenchavez265 fair, can only speak to people being mad not the actual strength. Either way though I hope I'll pass soon, it seems like a deck that's strong in theory but just gets crushed by agro, idk though.
"Dark glare warlock isn't evil!" What a crock. I watched you play this deck and now I'm homeless and addicted to heroin. "No morality in a children's card game..." Whatever it takes for you to sleep at night. Me, I need heroin. SSSSSSSHHHHHHAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMEEEEE!
Ahh.. this reminds me why Hearthstone is more fun watching than playing... It's infested wild as well.. Same entertainment-level to play against as mill-rogue, or shudderwock.. Yikes
@@Kribothegreat Ah.. well I haven't really been keeping up.. switched to BGs mostly.. Nice to feel that the outcome of a match isn't decided at turn 1...
I usually dislike playing the hyper aggressive meta decks, but this quest was the only useful legendary I got day 1, so I gave in and built the deck. From Bronze 10 to Diamond 10 I lost like 3 games in total, 2 against questline Hunter and one against a pirate Warrior. Only from Diamond 10 upwards did I start to fall off. But honestly, I never was Diamond before, just because the grind usually is tedious and I'm not that invested in HS, but this time around, it was a breeze.
I really appreciate you playing "good" decks. Wild is a format with an emphasis on variety, so why ignore the more prevalent decks as well? I remember your chat had a similar response when you played Quest Rogue. Honestly, really enjoy watching you play any deck, keep it up please
Quest rogue isn't even good lol people just have bad memories of it from years ago
@@harrygarris6921 completely agree
I guess you haven't been playing wild the last couple days. 80% of the games are just quest warlock.
Yeah you could complain how awful and busted the deck is or you can ride the wave and play the broken deck before they nerf it.
@@aidencurl2532 or just enjoy the easy wins with a tax pally or DH it´s like 80% win against those
After playing against this so much in Standard (Fel DH) and Wild (Pirate Warrior) I can safely say that while this is great vs slow decks, in more tempo decks the Warlock does more then half of the work for you lol
Imagine this against face hunter in wild. There's nothing this deck can do against face hunter who just wants to see them dead. It's so one sided the user of suicide warlock stops playing self damaging cards to stay alive and ignore progress. It's been that way since darkglare was used in wild since last year. I hated playing against it as Raza priest but when I switched to literally any kind of fast hunter deck, they either concede on turn 1 or die by turn 4-6
ngl, it feels great to kill warlock by t3 with pirate priest
@@saki3457 I’m playing Questline Odd Hunter in wild currently and it’s a great matchup
@@ilovecaulk2542 of course my friend. When warlock deals half their own hp as damage to themselves, your work is cut short. Makes for some quick and efficient grinding. Also I believe reno decks are dying. Its become very aggro oriented after this expansion that any and all midrange/control deck can't survive. Most people's games are ending before turn 10. With that statistic it's better to cut down any expensive cards in the deck. I am just happy to see rez priest suffering
I just came back to my Murloc Shaman. 10/10 easy grind.
I like how 2/3 of the deck is 1-Cost cards. Un'Goro Quest Hunters would be jealous.
Have you seen odd DH? The only cards over 1 mana are Stiltstepper, Leeroy, Arcane Golem and Acrobatics. There are so many low cost, hyper efficient cards in the game right now that you can fill like half of most non-control decklists with 1-drops and you'll still be omitting half of the good ones.
@@lMarcusl I think you’re forgetting baku
Nah, most odd dh cut Baku, it’s too slow in today’s meta
@@lMarcusl Pretty it's even more than you are saying. Hyper aggro lists were cutting leeroy, golem, and acrobatics by the end of forged in the barrens
That stream got real maldy real quick. I like how people who play standard cry that they are playing solitaire, meanwhile in wild quest warlocks develop a board with 7 minions on turns 2-3
I think you forgot that they are 2 different game modes. Having something that powerful in standard is definitely a problem, even if it isn't good in wild.
So we can’t complain about standard because Wild worse? Why not agree that both are bad and should be fixed?
@@Begeru true brother
I normally don't mind these kinds of shenanigans but when they push valid archetypes like control out of the meta, it's probably not a good thing.
@@GaussianEntity fair enough
It’s honestly refreshing to watch you play a strong meta deck. And I wish you posted more of them on TH-cam. I don’t have a ton of time to play wild/watch streams so sometimes it’s nice to see how a strong deck is properly played and I’m not going in blind if I queue into a wild game.
It's not "refreshing". It's pure and repetitive cancer.
@@MASTERHAENIR wow, you’re objectively worse than what you’re complaining about, it’s a card game calm the fuck down
@@MASTERHAENIR it seems like someone is mad because he lost to many times to the same deck
It feels like this deck is tier zero, not only because it's quite strong but because it's warping the meta significantly. Personally I'm just tired of darkglare
just try face hunter if you get them all the time in matches. Be surprised how quick they concede or die
@@lorenzo2845 face hunter,
In this economy ?
Nah fr face hunter is such a boring deck to play imo.
@@bim2013 if it beats a deck people hate it ain’t boring anymore ;)
@@solardile7143 haha big brain based children's card game player's logic :v
@@lorenzo2845 too bad that i r@p3 every face hunter with my warlock here :*
Here to express that I really enjoy your content regardless of whether your deck choice is off the wall nonsense or top tier meta. The best part of these videos is you @Roffle
Really? He comes off as such a douche
@JKItsMeAlGore Sounds like pretty whiney excuse from Someone who is an asshole and a weak ass Person, but maybe thats Just me. (Btw you should try talking to ur first woman to Test your claims ;))
@JKItsMeAlGore was Just tryin out beeing an asshole too
@JKItsMeAlGore Suit yourself, but maybe think about it when you are thinking about beeing an asshole again. Just trying to offer some wisdom.....
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The only times I’ve really seen this deck lose is when someone builds the deck poorly or misplays. Smart players with adequate healing can navigate that deck to wins against just about anything in both formats. Not to mention it’s a bit of solitaire.
The wild version loses to specific decks like tax paladin, quest DH, and quest druid. The standard version isn't that good right now.
@@aaaa-ni9hc and embrace priest :)
@@aaaa-ni9hc You know the 4 mana 2-6 that makes things you draw cost health? So basically everything they play is free and deals damage to me, and everything I play early on is killed by their cheap, self-damaging or self-healing removal.
@@aaaa-ni9hc agreed, the people complaining about this havnt played against enough quest shaman, the warlock deck crawls in comparison
I mean, aggro. How do you maneuver around getting slammed for 17 damage per turn?
Leave Darkglare alive: you lose
Kill it: they raise dead, advance in their quest, play it again: you lose
Play strong tempo: giants + broosh or clearboard completing the quest. You lose.
play face hunter: they do half the work for you. you win
Watching this made me realise just how powerful Wild decks have become. The power spike after this last set was insane!
Eh not really it raised the power level a bit but no more then any other set
DnT paladin & secret mage didn’t even change in this set and they are definitely still tier 1 if you need any kind of evidence beyond the word of someone who plays wild every day
@@babassoonist557 secret mage and raza priest have a sub 45% winrate at legend currently, there are old decks that are good but this was a noticeable spike
decks all i see is one deck doing broken stuff cuss that class is fair
Agreed. UiS has given darkglare warlock the sickest power spike I have ever seen in my 6 years of hearthstone.
@@willemdafoe9646 pre-nerf darkglare + pen-flinger was about as bad
I greatly enjoyed watching you pilot this. Even though people pressure you when they aren't happy, there are people like me who enjoy this deck, support your decisions regardless, and quietly hit that like button.
thank you for such a fun video covering a deck I have been really wanting to see. Even if other people have been quite opposed to such a deck.
What you said about playing a meta deck to understand how to beat it is so true. If I don't have the cards to play it, I at least try to find gameplay videos of it to watch when I come up against a frustrating deck. I've lost count of how many times I've Discovered a "bad" card (for example, Pyroblast on turn 4 in a deck with no cost reduction) but knew if I played a little differently than I might in another class matchup that my bad card would turn into a win-con rather than the insta-lose main decking it would be.
Don't let those haters phase you, bro. We always appreciate the content. Much love, dude.
I agree with roffle, that darkglare is the primary problem, but it is still very strong without it. I play a slower version of this deck with a fatigue game plan, but I hardly even reach fatigue, because I usually win before that or get burst down by aggro.
I have specifically built an aggro deck against quest warlock and still got my ass beaten repeatedly. I seriously don't have an answer against this deck.
All aggro minions have low health, warlock can clear them easily for 1 mana while healing at the same time. Can tempo out 8/8s for 0 mana on turn 2 while having excess mana at the end of the turn.
Pirate warrior(without quest) can't match it. Kingsbane can't match it, any paladin deck can't match it, it can out aggro the aggro Druid, face hunter can't kill you fast enough and can't clear your board full of 8/8s on turn 2/3. Mage and odd dh are not quick enough to kill it before turn 5.
Odd warrior is not good even if it controls the board, quest removes the win condition which is fatique. I'm seriously at a loss.
@@Stratovariuification From my experience at least Kingsbane fares quite well against it. Also Roffle recently played Pirate Shadowform Priest and farmed Darkglare Questline Warlocks with it. So it is not unbeatable, but it is still strong enaugh to be not healthy for the game.
@@StAngerNo1 Have not tried shadow priest yet, might give it a chance
Play what you want and have fun with it. People need to stop acting like others are bad just for certain decks. It's childish and so black and white. People need to realize they aren't owed anything from the people they watch and it's so toxic to get mad at them for playing what they want to play. They act like the streamer wouldn't get burnt out if they had to play nothing but what they were told to play. Just enjoy the content or leave, it's not difficult.
You mean secret mage?
@@nzoth9159 I'm fine with secret mage on the ladder tho, yes they're annoying to play against but they're not unbeatable if you play correctly and have a good understanding of the game, and that's coming from a guy who just moved to playing wild half a year ago control matchup can be fun and all sometimes but not for everyone, and imagine playing a control deck against odd warrior who ropes every turn, no one like that shit
@@geasslelouch so, clearly you're one of those people.
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Good afternoon Roffle, I'm a bit late today but I hope you have a good day.
A lot of quests in stormwind feel like they negate or at least generally help a certain archetypes costs on top of the quest reward.
I put this in a control shell with Jaraxxus and it's been a blast. Can progress the quest with bonking minions and post completion you can bonk big minions for big damage to face
I actually really appreciated the opinion on the conversation regarding decks like darkglare and other solitaire style decks. They do get bullied out a lot of the time which is good, but you still get these pocket metas where you face a whole ton of those decks with no reprieve. I mostly play standard and I see an unhealthy amount of quest mage which I do not like playing against in the slightest, I can beat it most of the time, but I just don't enjoy the games a lot of the time. At any rate I think Roffle is right regarding the decks that beat it, but it definitely isn't the best feeling when those decks are very common on the ladder.
Reasonable and sound arguments as always dont let people make you the bad guy for playing a strong deck!
It would be cool to empty your deck with the quest completed, play OctoDad with plague of flames to draw and deal 36 damage 🙂.
that drops way too late. that's often a turn 9 combo when the game is usually over before then.
@@spartycool would be fun though 🙂
@@lotadman5747 Then maybe build the deck to have more health gain and AOE so you can have longer games and finish in spectacular fashion with Octo.
@@remyllebeau77 fingers crossed in order to play a deck with OctoDad in it lol.
Hey Roffle, I think it's my first time commenting a video of yours, I've never been able to catch up a stream of yours because of my work, but just... Wow... I can't believe the amount of stress you have to deal with sometimes just because of a game, you are doing a great job and I think the big majority of your followers think the same way, have a lovely day my man! ☺️
This is litterally what i am facing 40-45% of all games (I have made a list for myself). I typically only win if I have lucky draw with mozaki otk. Other than that I lose every single time.
Honestly I have never before in my 6 years of hearthstone seen a deck that is so overturned. I hope it gets nerfed, because it is no fun when you almost have to play one particular deck to remain in legend’s top positions.
It's going to get nerfed guaranteed. The deck is too fast for Standard even, and that format has a lot less self-damage cards.
When you post a video every day like you do, playing a good, t1 deck for a day or two is a treat and doesn't feel like too much.
Thank you for working so hard and doing the variety of content that you do!
You could start a salt farming operation with all of chats tears lol
Grr I can’t my believe my favorite game has darkglare in it, or something
Great vid as always. As a f2p player, I’ve given up trying to keep up having all the good decks in the meta, which means I play vicariously through streamers/youtubers. I had no clue what questline darkglare warlock was before this video, and now I know. Thanks
Glad I can get my daily dose of Roff Roff to survive another day on
Loved this video. Not sure about others but it's nice seeing a good deck on this channel alongside a nice mix of memier decks
i appreciate seeing this deck, i dont play wild so i really want to see the Boogeyman deck in the format in action, because everyone mention it but no one post viedeos of the deck in youtube pre expantion
I've been watching you daily for more than a year now, but i havent played hearthstone for 4 years now.
Same, but I'm clean (of HS and Blizzard) for only about 8 months now getting there! ✊
@@gustavocarneiro6471 ayyyy good for you man. I quit not because i hate the game, but because blizzard is so shit and unclear with the community.
Keeping playing whatever deck is the most fun for you. I watch your videos daily and will continue to do so, regardless of the deck you choose. Love your content!
The other demon seed lock had exact lethal... Tour Guide into quest completion into tamsin into deal 5 gain 5 armor: Roffle was at 13 so, given there was Brann, -10 and double attack for another 3.
is it still good in the new meta to play pain warlock with a few changes and add the quest?
I’d love to see your take on even-lock! It’s probably not great given secret mage and whatnot, but it’s still my fav wild deck!
I feel like in Hearthstone you have to acknowledge that you're either playing a deck to win or playing to have fun, but only sometimes both. Questline warlock is strong but not completely devoid of counters. If you're intent on winning, you can either play another tier 1 deck, the questline itself, or something that counters the questline like face hunter. If you are just in it to have fun, play what you want and acknowledge that other people are playing what they want, too. And if you want to do neither and complain then I'm not sure what you're expecting. It's boring to face the same decks again and again but that's happened in wild for a long time.
Well- about the winrate thing with tier 1 and sub tier 1 decks- my case is a bit special, i actualy play the tier 1 warlock deck back from 2018 which to this day has a 100% winrate against priest for some reason. Tier 1 decks still remain really good even if its outdated in my opinion.
At this point, I'm utterly convinced self-damage Warlock should never be a thing in Wild. It warps the format every single time it comes up and it's almost never interactive.
darkglare turning self damage into mana cheat is cool conceptually but (1) this makes cards which are balanced around being bundled with a downside simply insanely strong and (2) providing potentially infinite mana to work with is fundamentally uninteractive. the new quest gives the deck a win condition, but it takes a bunch of setup that frequently puts you at a very low life total, so it honestly isn't even that good of a win condition. darkglare is the real problem imo
Well i have good news for you, seedlock was banned in wild xd
Joining the positive voices, I'm happy to watch you play whatever and it's fun to see you piloting the 'deck to beat' sometimes!
Dunno Roffle, my hunter deck destroys this lock deck but its absolutely demolished by warriors :(
The cycle continues!
This deck is strong, Tier 1 no doubt but like all deck it has counter, burn /aggro deck like Questline/Face hunter, Shadow priest, Questline Druid, no-minion burn mage ( idk if other people than me play it but it's actually pretty good probably worse than APM mages but easier to play ). I assume non-questline Pirate warrior also beat it most of the time.
That first warrior really liked trading. Interesting choice.
The important thing is, are you having fun, are you enjoying the game. Yes winning tends to up "enjoyment" for people, but if you like the deck and don't care about climbing or losing then who cares.
I was playing a sword of truth hunter deck, won my first game with it, and the dude complained that he lost to me and I wasn't going to get anywhere. Don't care, it was fun, still enjoy playing it.
I still remember Roffle saying that quest would be too slow in DarkGlare for making people lose a mulligan spot, i guess than winning the game instantly wjen completed is worth more than a mulligan card
@@matt_1215 ehhh that's very debatable
@@newyork9923 yep this version is way better i would say
@@jinstronda2571 exactly. with the other version control at least had a chance but with this version gl
This isn't the normal Darkglare list though. This doubles down on the self-damage to finish the quest quickly.
roffle, don't worry about them, we love you and love you playing any deck you want
The only 2 cards that can mess with your opponents deck to stop combo are weasel tunneler and the bad luck albatross. Can we have a hearthstone developer show us how to use these 2 cards to stop these warlocks please, i want to see their thought process.
Love your channel, love the deck, and all of its brokenness. Keep up the great work 👍🏼
people are not mad at others for playing a deck that is really hard to counter in the STANDARD META. they are mad that other decks cannot keep up with the power creep of said deck. I for one have seen decks outside of aggro that absolutely destroy decks, like OTKS, however the difference is that MOST (90%) of OTK needs longer than 5 turns for it to happen. Also in some cases the fatigue version of this deck kind of defeats the purpose of being a card game when you have no cards, but hey we've seen mecha'thun decks
no bran?
I currently I am playing regular DarkGlare Warlock, and have yet to lose to against the questline
Version. I also have the quest, however I feel like even if you don't have it the deck is more or less the same. While with quest U have a second win con
yep, both are broken but quest gives you more value for the price of 1mana and a card to might be important in the game
yep quest version feels like a worse version of a deck that was already broken haha
Re: tier 1 vs tier 5
The issue, as I see it, is not necessarily that tier 5 decks should automatically have a 50% winrate against tier 1 decks - that's patently ridiculous.
The issue I see is that the matchmaking isn't successfully weeding out the tier 5 players to match against each other, and instead is matching players who exclusively play tier 5 decks against players who flat out suck, but are using tier 1 decks.
Acti-Blizzard *have* the patents necessary to do matchmaking based on what deck you're currently playing with (it's a patent on using matchmaking to drive microtransaction sales) and they're not using it to match shitty decks against shitty decks, they're just matching shitty decks against shitty players, hoping it boosts one or the other's MMR to boost their likelyhood to buy more packs.
doing matchmaking based on the decks you're playing would be way harder, way more unintuitive, and open them up to all sorts of criticism. MMR is fair. if you play enough games, your matches will eventually average 50% WR regardless of what decks you or your opponent play. doesn't mean every individual match will be a 50/50, but that wouldn't be the case even if you had a magical matchmaking system that matched tier 5 decks together.
I'm not mad since I'm not playing against it. Thanks for the video.
15:13, playing the Crystalizer would have finished the quest and the Imp would have given you 3 dmg for the next progress. The way you played it, you "lost" 4 dmg on the Crystalizer because they got wasted.
i have endured wild playing against odd paladins, big priest, cube locks and secret mage but this deck just siphons all fun out the format
Crystaliser seems to be way too strong in this deck. She advances the quest by 5 points with no sacrifice actually made on the player’s part.
I agree absolutely, and after the reward, she is "deal 5 damage to the enemy hero and gain 5 armor."
Dont blame him.He must play it to figure out how to counter it :-D
Hey roffle, as shown in the video you have to deal with a loooot of putting up with people and honestly I don't know how you continue to have such a very consistent schedule without taking a break. Speaking of, if you need to take a bream please do, especially if it starts effecting your mental health. Take care of yourself and your real fans will support you. Thanks for all the great content!
way under 50% winrate, twitch chat goes "MOST BROKEN DECK EVER"
Basically lol
Just tell me how to play against
@@luizcesar2990 burst them down, the deck does your job for you and all you need to do is aim face
@@ShallowContrarian that one of reasons why this meta sucks so much
lol roffle just spends the whole time making goofy faces and fighting his chat
While I think it's stupid, I can understand chat's frustration. The other day I queued into quest warlock, no joke, 7 out of 8 games and just stopped playing for the day as a result
Sorry about chat this stream roffle you should just play the decks you enjoy playing
While I don’t like how oppressive this deck is I do like how a terrible/meme card like UnLicensed Apothecary suddenly became extremely good because of this deck.
If you want to beat darkglare then play one of the decks that roffle says can beat it......then hope your opponent doesnt know how to play darkglare and you should be good to go 😀
Yesssss. I love warlock uploads :)
With Darkglare, you can have as much mana as chat has!
Malygos Druid seems to do well against this deck. Celestial alignment disrupts the combos
well only if you managed to survive until the turn you can play that alignment
@@hunggujh6848 yes but building up armor as a backstop isn’t too hard
Wild is just wild about which blizzard almost doesn’t care, as illustrated by the grave ruin problem…. I am playing mozaki ignite and doing just fine in my platinum ranks… you win some you lose some
A not angry TH-cam comment about playing this deck
Just Darkglare doing Darkglare things
ARRR! ANGRY COMMENT!
Happened to play token druid and destroyed every time this archetype of deck.
Some players are running Defile which improves the matchup massively for them
NGL watching you eviscerate twitch chat in that last game was so satisfying. It deserved an NSFW tag.
There's a specific word to describe people who vicariously get satisfaction from watching a person dominate others. You earned it.
@@kosk8800 You have said so.
I ground out the last 20 wins I needed for golden warlock in about an hour last night with this deck. If it means anything, I feel bad for doing it.🤣
Man im here just to see cards go wooshh i dont play since 2017 and im still watching heartstone cuz is fun when people have cards lol keep it up! Much love
*angry youtube comment*
Man, glad I don't play hearthstone right now. Everyone in standard and wild discussions is so unreasonably mad about this. Daz rough.
Meh, aggro priest in standard beats that modes version. It's not as powerful as you think.
@@jensenchavez265 fair, can only speak to people being mad not the actual strength. Either way though I hope I'll pass soon, it seems like a deck that's strong in theory but just gets crushed by agro, idk though.
Can you please make a deck called "F*** Secret Mage"
I am really tired of it. It's a new meta, play something new.
Anyway what decks beat it?
i made a full tech deck that runs all secret counters lmao plus heals
I did the same thing and still lost some of the games against them
This deck? Lol
I think the quest lines need to be removed from wild.
I wanted to have fun and added hakkar
such an awesome deck requiring so much skill and completing quest on turn 3 is cherry on top
"Dark glare warlock isn't evil!" What a crock.
I watched you play this deck and now I'm homeless and addicted to heroin.
"No morality in a children's card game..." Whatever it takes for you to sleep at night. Me, I need heroin.
SSSSSSSHHHHHHAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMEEEEE!
All form of Questline Warlock is really weak against afro or tempo decks in Wild. They just kill you in turn 6-8.
Dang quest complete before turn 5
Mage in standard pretty "pain in ass" against quest Warlock
Just another common warlock 30 cards deck with 20 Win conditions cards
people should play whatever the hell deck they want, good or bad
Never been here so early. Hope You have a wonderful day Roffle
Kinda funny how apothecary is now a good card
He turned to the Darkglare side...
Put in soul stealer. you'll win much faster
He can’t it is banned in wild
how is it broken if you havent ranked up the entire video? Its just Click Bait then
. . . I loved this video
Ahh.. this reminds me why Hearthstone is more fun watching than playing... It's infested wild as well.. Same entertainment-level to play against as mill-rogue, or shudderwock.. Yikes
Dark glare has been tier 1 in wild for the better part of a year now. The quest just gave it more visibility to lower ranks
@@Kribothegreat Ah.. well I haven't really been keeping up.. switched to BGs mostly.. Nice to feel that the outcome of a match isn't decided at turn 1...
Armor just shouldn't count for the quest
they need to just ban darkglare already
I made it here before Jakob?
Welp, i time to craft DarkGlare + Flesh Giant
I usually dislike playing the hyper aggressive meta decks, but this quest was the only useful legendary I got day 1, so I gave in and built the deck. From Bronze 10 to Diamond 10 I lost like 3 games in total, 2 against questline Hunter and one against a pirate Warrior. Only from Diamond 10 upwards did I start to fall off. But honestly, I never was Diamond before, just because the grind usually is tedious and I'm not that invested in HS, but this time around, it was a breeze.
You dare to make a video on this deck ! That riles me up and makes me angry!
in my humble opinion it is at risk nerf...