I’m glad Donut still does high quality videos like this and not solely easy click bait / reaction stuff. This channel has blown up but it’s still maintained what brought me in the first place.
It’s honestly not that high quality. The production value is great but what sane of person would trust a 200$ turbo on their build. Most of these accidents have been their fault
Haha totally agree. If they had filmed this more recently, they could have taken the advice of subscribers on like the first few episodes to get a better oil pan. Lots of people were commenting that the stock WRX oil pan allows oil to stray from the pickup tube under hard cornering like track days, which can be solved with better baffling and more capacity like the Killer B pan. Probably would have saved them a few engines by preventing oil starvation that results in worn/spun bearings.
I like that this time they took a car wichs is known to have not a great engine and yeah it shows one motor swap after the other a new hi car i mean man that sucks bud also its kind of realstic when u go tinkering to make a second gand car faster
For anyone wondering about the slimy bags, it’s a coating of oil the manufacturer puts on to prevent them from rusting while they sit in warehouses and shipping containers for several months or even years.
If only the same could be said for James, who only gets more annoying it seems like. I can forgive the bad driving but I can't even see where he puts effort into learning the mods. Jobe is a one man team at this point
@@limprooster3253 agreed. Zach has the wits to do pretty much his own show now. I’d like it if James somehow managed to do his own money pit(he does have the AE86 after all) and do all the modding himself.
@@SETSO-4L Yes. A money pit on the ae86 would be sweet. I also think Nolans Chrysler would be excellent from the perspective of parts are just hard to find. So it's a money pit for people with oddball stuff
the pain of car modding. you want to upgrade one part but then you realize you need to upgrade or modify 5 others to get it to even work, and then you need to upgrade or modify another 7 to accommodate those 5
they still left out a good amount of things that you really should do to subarus though. they say how theyre unreliable blah blah but they just dont know how to build them. i have a 535whp 05 sti that has been running this power since 2017. same engine. same trans. never broke.
I half rolled my 06 wrx in poor conditions last year on November 11th 2021 at 257k miles. I didn't have the funds to repair the roof and A-pillar but I had my spare 04 2.5rs shell that was WRX swapped by the previous owner. Sometime in October a couple months back I finally got the motivation to see if the engine was still saveable, did an oil change, primed the oil system and after plugging the fuel relay back in she fired right over. Ran her through a few heatcycles to rule out any possible gremlins and she checked out. Still felt excruciatingly hopeless considering it was the factory longblock that I refreshed the heads on at 239k and added some reliability focused upgrades/mods. When I drained the oil I was pleasantly surprised to find no shavings or excessive metal indicating any failure. Coolant was old but clean of any foreign contaminants So ive been in the process of swapping my 06's engine, drivetrain, subframe's, engine/chassis harness and full interior (dash and all) into the 04 shell after doing a full teardown on that one too. I've owned my 06 since 2015, she's my heart and soul and ever since i wrecked her ive been lost. So I revived her into a new body so she can live on and be alive once more. I'm so close to finishing the swap, at the end of today she will breathe life once again after the seats are installed, rear subframe, drivetrain, engine, and new whiteline suspension components. Yeah Subarus get a bad rep, but they tend to find THEIR owners. Ones who will love them unconditionally and take care of them. You can still have so much fun and get so much enjoyment out of these cars but the important points to achieve that are PRIORITIZE PREVENATIVE MAINTENANCE AND RELIABILITY FOCUSED SUPPORTING MODS. You have to start with a solid foundation before you can build on it.
I have no idea what the financials of Donut Media look like but I get so scared every time they have to replace an engine or anything like that. I really love this series and I hope it stays financially viable for the foreseeable future!
@@JosiahK22and then had to pay someone to take apart and fix two new separate engines, including the one they just replaced from the car they just replaced lol
You guys should give out awards at the end of the year. Categories of “best mechanic,” “best driver,” “fan favorite presenter,” and “most likely to wreck a car.”
Dude I can’t imagine the frustration all of you went through just to not give up on the series. I appreciate it a ton and will buy a couple shirts just cause you earned my respect 100%
Got the wife a new 2016 WRX. Figured I'd tune it and she would have an STI. Called COBB to ask about reliability and longevity after a tune. They said the powertrain wouldn't survive 50k miles after a tune... This series has solidified that information.
I almost got one as a first car (this was back when they were still cheap and could be found for under 5k for a blob eye in fair shape). But I ended up settling for a Volvo my dad was planning to get rid of and it’s been great lol 😂
I miss the breakdown at the end where Nolan and James talk about the benefits of both and discuss which one is actually worth it. We all obviously expect to see the more expensive parts to perform better, but having people actually sit down and say whether they'd spring for the more expensive parts feels way more genuine.
I felt the same way, the gains on low car were seriously impressive for the price. I think they glossed over it because it'd be really hard to talk specifically about the turbos in amongst everything they did this episode. Both engines were basically rebuilt and there are a lot of supporting mods that probably deserved their own episodes, this one could have been feature-length but I think they worked hard enough on it as it is haha
The other issue is they are not looking at the same turbo James didn't get a buschur 20G he went with a 3071R. So it's not like looking at a cheap option of the same spec turbo. It's been one of my issues with the whole high low cars set up. They do almost no research into anything they buy. Almost as if they just do shopping on reddit. More expensive more better. It's gonna get to the point to where they buy 2 super cars one with an engine and one with out and race them to see which ones faster. I had to tap out of this episode It's not for me.
@@TinoR626to be honest the only thing that made the 1st season of HiLow so entertaining was mostly the actual building of cars and the misc stuff that happened in-between, now they’ve basically removed that entire idea and just tell you what they bought, how it works, do a small building montage with some bits in it, and then show you the obvious results
@@NANA-es9nv "It’s cause the low car has 30 more hp" 1- When youre comparing 2 cars with around 200 hp, 30 hp difference aint going to make that much of a difference 2, the biggest one however- Theyve been having them all drive both cars, and Nolan has done great lap times with both.
Pro ( not a pro ) Tip - but it’s always a good idea to do a oil change before doing a major upgrade . Even if u may have to drain the oil again you will find issues like metal in oil and save yourself a lot of time not having to take new parts back off . Done multiple upgrades over the years and this saved me atleast a days worth of work twice so far .
Moral of story: subie life is indeed the hard life. Filled with pain. It’s legit crazy how many motors they’ve gone through for this series and I love it
I mean... They're legitimately old cars that generally get purchased by young men... who often beat the shit out of them and have to wait a paycheck or two for maintenance. The EJ25 engine was known for weak head gaskets as well.
@@jamesgravey have they abused them? Sure, but you could abuse almost any other half decent car like they did and they wouldn't blow a engine better yet multiple engines. They blew one on day one while they were stock. That says alot about those motors
I know it's been said many times already, but I really appreciate the commitment to this series and how honest you guys are when it comes down to issues such as the engine. Most other car shows and channels kinda gloss right over these sorts of problems but seeing you guys tackle it head on is very refreshing for viewers like me.
I have such an extreme respect for the entire donut media team, even the ones who edit everything to make it all happen, this has been an the best advertisement to not buy a Hawkeye wrx I’ve ever seen, and all of you at donut are just the most motivated people I’ve ever seen to keep bringing people good quality real content.
@@4RMS7TRONG i dont know, ive owned alot of subarus, and this hasnt been the best representation on how to properly take care of your car, especially the motor. both my subarus right now are almost at 200k miles and i beat the hell out of my WRX, i just take care of it xD
@@4RMS7TRONG I have upgraded as I grew up, only needed to do timing belt jobs with my dad, I got my dream subie and sold the rest, I have one I drive in the winter and one in the summer, one with a turbo, one without.
I'm not a car guy, crease monkey, motor head, or any other way to express that I know anything else beyond a google search with cars. These videos are soo fun to watch and I greatly appreciate all he work put into these videos. Thank you!
I’d love to see a Donut Media episode of up to speed with the whole team. The camaraderie y’all have built is the reason I watch this channel. It’d be interesting to see how it all came to be!
High five to Donut for these expensive "supporting modes" overview and installation here. Other TH-camrs would make a separate episode about each of them. Zack's work is not forgotten and still appreciated: episodes about similar mods on Miata in MoneyPit were great.
“We will rebuild, and then we’ll be back. And then we’ll blow em’ up. And then we’ll rebuild. And then we’ll be back, and we’ll do that for the rest of our lives, because we’re subi boys now” James is definitely a subi boy now
12:20 As a Subaru owner, I sincerely hope Low Car's center differential is still good after towing like that. The owner's manual recommends flatbed towing, but allows for manual transmission models to be towed with all four wheels still on the ground with the transmission in neutral. If you tow it like you did with the front wheels in the air you will cause the viscous center differential to spin and heat up. Good luck with the rest of this series. Hopefully nothing else goes wrong.
As someone who did the Ebay turbo swap on an 02 Wrx, I can say the cheap turbos do great powerwise, as I could make 22 psi of boost on 91 octane on the stage 2 cobb tune
What about a new series that teaches James and the crew to drive better? Like does driving lessons beat buying parts? Not saying this in a mean way, just think it would be a cool series to watch! I say this as I have a lot of faith in James’s ability to improve and think it would be cool to see his progression over a couple of episodes. Thanks for all the amazing content you provide, keep doing you, we love it as fans!
Feller. They drive with pros coaching them all the time. In half the videos they have a pro coaching them while driving laps. Hit this corner at this speed, brake now, shift now type stuff.
Feller. They drive with pros coaching them all the time. In half the videos they have a pro coaching them while driving laps. Hit this corner at this speed, brake now, shift now type stuff.
@@USA2283 driving with a coach is not enough, you need a proper sit down and learn about tire physics, weight transfer, what apex is best where etc. i could go on but u should get the point.
On this Episode of high-low: Zach dodges car fluids, Jerry puts his finger in a nasty hole, Nolan makes a lowcar a manual lowrider, and James crashes another Subaru
@@k-aw-teksleepysageuni8181yeah this series has really highlighted no one at donut media actually knows anything about cars beyond spec sheets in magazines
their cars aren’t cursed, they just don’t know what they’re doing with them, a fresh motor requires engine break in, etc, they’re tuning with Cobb and using tgv deletes, they’re using garret turbo as the high option, they’re using TEIN coilovers as the high option, they have no clue what they’re doing with Subarus and that’s okay, but the bad light they’re shining is their fault
Just in case you don’t hear it enough…We love you guys!!! This channel and this series are just incredible. We all love seeing the true nightmare of building cars. Most of us have been through it as well. Don’t ever stop! Cars are pain! A truer statement has not been spoken.
You guys should have shown the dyno graphs to show how these spooled. How similar were the technical specs like trim and AR ratios in these turbos? Just curious about the minutia.
@@ccshinaberry AS in Automotive Technology Basic, will not teach you about trim levels or dyno stuff. But it's not about they don't know, its because the audience of this show is 13 and they don't know. Hard reality check is that this show is ment for kids.
Meant for kids? You really think kids like to watch a bunch of dorks in their 30s wrench on wrx's that are older than they are? No, the "kids" youre thinking of watch 10 min videos about 2000 hp+ builds that juat spin tires and look like hotwheels cars.. This series would put most 13 yo's to sleep.
I like how in Money Pit they're like "make sure your car is safe to turbo before you do!" And here Hi Car is down like 30hp and they're just sending it.
@@PseudoKirby i don’t think they have a personal vendetta against subaru to show how shitty they are. consider the possibility that subarus might just genuinley be unreliable as fuck
I've been thinking this for a while, but I really believe a third car which gets the agreed best value parts would be super interesting and add new perspective on the parts together versus separately
Great series! I owned a Hawkeye WRX. Loved it. Was really reliable and modded well over the years. I progressed slower obviously but ended up with a very fast little car. Beat many STI’s, I think because my 5sp was way lighter and had longer gears. Had to be careful launching. 5sp was fragile. I did pretty much everything Donut did. Mine was more like “mid car”. I also swapped s***** steering rack with quicker ratio unit. I also avoided oil starvation with better pan, baffles and uptake. Money well spent, never spun a bearing after 300,000 kms. Well done team. Since WRX I’ve progressed through an E46 M3, Golf R and finally my dream car 911. 997.2 manual 6sp. All have been fun but the Subie was the most fun. Track days in summer and back road winter driving made the car my favourite. Cost of ownership eventually catches up. Bang for buck you just can’t beat a WRX. The f****** fuel pump on 911 cost more than my whole stage 1 on the Subie. That was just the start. So much cabbage spent on 911 eventually made me hate it and sell it. I’m rocking a 1968 Mercedes 220 now. Slow but so cool.
No need to skip at any point of the video from start to finish the whole thing is enjoyable to watch to the funny skits, important information, random cougar crawling, down to the final tests thank you guy for the dedication to keep us entertained.
This series is the ultimate prank. The ultimate slander. The ultimate truth about subarus. The ultimate punch in the face for fanboys. And I absolutely love it
Right? I went down the same train of mods building my Subaru and it took me moths research, acquire parts, tear it down, build back up and get it tuned
They just didn't go forward with having him be part of hi/low for this season, Aaron mentioned it on his Instagram. I don't think it was anything serious, doesn't seem to be any bad blood.
So I think a more fair comparison of the turbos themselves would be to use all of the exact same supporting mods. The supporting mods play a huge part in a turbo kit
I feel that Donut needed more support from Subaru professionals working on this platform. There are people who know how to build them in a right way and they are realible when pushed hard, with first try. Mentioning that suggest I HCR in Eastern Europe. IAG in USA. ( I believe there are many more)
I can't believe the amount of problems the team had to go thru with Subarus. The whole series now is pretty much tells everyone "Don't own one if you don't have the money"
@@BigSmoke-lf9jk Eh, like anything, you have to be smart about what you are upgrading. You can't just slap a bunch of shit on and expect everything to be okay. Speaking for the STIs, they are perfectly happy with mild-ish bolt-ons, anything up to where the stock injectors max out, about ~300whp. The car will be perfectly fine and reliable assuming you have a quality tune (Pro tune, not OTS), and change your oil at intervals in line with how you drive it. And this aligns with plenty of other brands. Once you try to crank the power past that, you are well beyond stock power levels, and at this point you'd better be investing in better internals/parts to compensate for the additional power. Which also aligns with plenty of other brands. The issue that Subaru has is that everyone under the sun wants to mod it, many do it just plain wrong, the car blows up, people are like "Subaru sucks," they meme the shit out of it, and then the internet jumps on the bandwagon. I promise you, you take care of your Subaru, treat it right, don't be stupid, and chances are extremely high that it will be dead reliable for you.
This season has been a fantastic beautiful disaster. Props to you guys for persisting and showing the reality of what can happen when you try to mod your car. As much as I love it, it also reminds me why I stopped trying to hot rod my own cars. I just couldn't afford it any more.
@@Don-pk2uy Subaru sound is not because the boxer engine itself but the different length header pipes. Could be recreated with some messy welded pipes at the cost of performance loss.
@@jakeiswayblack3377 "just 2jz swap them" just do it, its easy. lol.... btw, i have one, and they constantly have suspension and steering issues, diff issues, gearbox issues. clutches and brakes dont last long either. love my car tho. its just something about them. when they are working great, they are sublime. even when they are falling apart they are good.
If they had filmed this more recently, they could have taken the advice of subscribers on like the first few episodes to get a better oil pan. Lots of people were commenting that the stock WRX oil pan allows oil to stray from the pickup tube under hard cornering like track days, which can be solved with better baffling and more capacity like the Killer B pan. Probably would have saved them a few engines by preventing oil starvation that results in worn/spun bearings.
This series has accidentally been the most compelling "Under absolutely no circumstances should you buy a Subaru" advertisement ever.
Was about to comment the same
I’m never in my life getting a Subaru
@Jack Wrath No you don't
@Jack Wrath if your videos were so good, you wouldn't need to advertise yourself under legit every single comment on someone else's video.
@Jack Wrath all you have is a playlist titled videos from a channel that isn't yours by a channel with a fake check
If you make better vids you wouldn't be jumping on "cringetubers" channels your videos would do the talking...
despite 7 or 8 engines being ruined they're still trying to keep this series going, that's dedication right there
Official count is i think 6
2 first rebuilds
Hicar jdm engine swap
New hicar with a broken engine
Hicar and lowcar rebuilds
i think eventually they'll just do a swap episode like with the V8s because goddamn this is getting ridiculous haha
No that’s ignorance turned to insanity. Just keep doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result😂
Looks more like their job to me. If this was their own money I'd agree
@@Thumper68 Vaz from far cry be like
"If it's leaking oil, it still has oil in it"
-Subaru Tech that I used to work with
Dam that’s really wise
Weird.. i heard the owner of a dodge truck tell me the same thing
This saying has been around since the radial engine was a thing, lmao
I heard this about my first car which was a Peugeot 206 hahaha
"if that things starts dumping out oil I was never here" Jeremiah Burton.
I’m glad Donut still does high quality videos like this and not solely easy click bait / reaction stuff. This channel has blown up but it’s still maintained what brought me in the first place.
I need more click bait/reaction videos so I’m glad they still do both
It’s honestly not that high quality. The production value is great but what sane of person would trust a 200$ turbo on their build. Most of these accidents have been their fault
@@jonathanmayo9667well thats kind of the point of hi low no?
@@jonathanmayo9667140 dollar turbo on my rsx making 450 reliable 😂
Isn’t it a high low quality video. Haha
This series has quickly become a season of money pit
somehow Hi car is the money pit and not low car :D
Haha totally agree. If they had filmed this more recently, they could have taken the advice of subscribers on like the first few episodes to get a better oil pan. Lots of people were commenting that the stock WRX oil pan allows oil to stray from the pickup tube under hard cornering like track days, which can be solved with better baffling and more capacity like the Killer B pan. Probably would have saved them a few engines by preventing oil starvation that results in worn/spun bearings.
@@drshocking1229 thats the whole point lmao
I like that this time they took a car wichs is known to have not a great engine and yeah it shows one motor swap after the other a new hi car i mean man that sucks bud also its kind of realstic when u go tinkering to make a second gand car faster
@@jordanlatta Hi I'm youtuber support me I'm comedian
For anyone wondering about the slimy bags, it’s a coating of oil the manufacturer puts on to prevent them from rusting while they sit in warehouses and shipping containers for several months or even years.
It's called cosmoline
@@creedns yay cosmo
@@hatefunwrx I hope Wanda appreciates this comment :)
@@creednsno it’s not. Cosmoline is the military grade dried on shit you see on mosins and sks’. That’s just a light surface lubricant on the parts.
Shout out to Nolan, whos noticeably learned and changed a ton since the start of these series. Props to you man.
Nolan has become one hell of a driver and a modder!
If only the same could be said for James, who only gets more annoying it seems like. I can forgive the bad driving but I can't even see where he puts effort into learning the mods. Jobe is a one man team at this point
@@limprooster3253 agreed. Zach has the wits to do pretty much his own show now.
I’d like it if James somehow managed to do his own money pit(he does have the AE86 after all) and do all the modding himself.
@@SETSO-4L Yes. A money pit on the ae86 would be sweet. I also think Nolans Chrysler would be excellent from the perspective of parts are just hard to find. So it's a money pit for people with oddball stuff
im really glad they listed all the supporting mods they needed to get to make this work. I was always curious in previous builds
the pain of car modding. you want to upgrade one part but then you realize you need to upgrade or modify 5 others to get it to even work, and then you need to upgrade or modify another 7 to accommodate those 5
@@yimpyoi9808 never really thought about it but I feel like this counts for pretty much anything out there
they still left out a good amount of things that you really should do to subarus though. they say how theyre unreliable blah blah but they just dont know how to build them. i have a 535whp 05 sti that has been running this power since 2017. same engine. same trans. never broke.
This is easily the best depiction of what happens when a kid buys a subaru for the first time and starts slapping parts on it. Thank you!
The first one blew on the drive to the shop no mods 😂
Looks like you didn’t even watch the series
I hope this series stops a ton of kids from buying Subarus.
Yea why put supporting mods on when you can see pretty number
@@PanditaP i will never, finally got an outback xt after three NAs and I'm not stopping
This just turned into the real money pit series
Boxer engines are cool but garbage 🗑️
@@justinhughes889 for Subaru i agree but the Porsche 911 engines are all boxer 6’s and they are amazing engines
@@keeganmcnabb1786 i wouldn’t call Porsche the pinnacle of reliability so yeah it applies to them to
@@keeganmcnabb1786Porsche used flat6 not boxer
@@kristoff0224 Its the same thing
This is the first series not just with donut but anywhere that I feel obligated to financially contribute.
I half rolled my 06 wrx in poor conditions last year on November 11th 2021 at 257k miles.
I didn't have the funds to repair the roof and A-pillar but I had my spare 04 2.5rs shell that was WRX swapped by the previous owner.
Sometime in October a couple months back I finally got the motivation to see if the engine was still saveable, did an oil change, primed the oil system and after plugging the fuel relay back in she fired right over.
Ran her through a few heatcycles to rule out any possible gremlins and she checked out.
Still felt excruciatingly hopeless considering it was the factory longblock that I refreshed the heads on at 239k and added some reliability focused upgrades/mods.
When I drained the oil I was pleasantly surprised to find no shavings or excessive metal indicating any failure.
Coolant was old but clean of any foreign contaminants
So ive been in the process of swapping my 06's engine, drivetrain, subframe's, engine/chassis harness and full interior (dash and all) into the 04 shell after doing a full teardown on that one too.
I've owned my 06 since 2015, she's my heart and soul and ever since i wrecked her ive been lost.
So I revived her into a new body so she can live on and be alive once more.
I'm so close to finishing the swap, at the end of today she will breathe life once again after the seats are installed, rear subframe, drivetrain, engine, and new whiteline suspension components.
Yeah Subarus get a bad rep, but they tend to find THEIR owners. Ones who will love them unconditionally and take care of them.
You can still have so much fun and get so much enjoyment out of these cars but the important points to achieve that are PRIORITIZE PREVENATIVE MAINTENANCE AND RELIABILITY FOCUSED SUPPORTING MODS.
You have to start with a solid foundation before you can build on it.
Bro you are the weird horse girls of car guys
@@cwill2127 Yes but he's still correct. WRXs have a bad rep specifically because of abusive owners. Donut literally proves that in this series.
@@Tazytots cope harder wrx user
I have no idea what the financials of Donut Media look like but I get so scared every time they have to replace an engine or anything like that. I really love this series and I hope it stays financially viable for the foreseeable future!
Replace an engine? They replaced a whole car this time lol
@@tinystar3010 and THEN the engine again lmao
@@JosiahK22and then had to pay someone to take apart and fix two new separate engines, including the one they just replaced from the car they just replaced lol
Anything is possible w that eBay money
@@tinystar3010 so far they've bought 3 cars and 4 engines...lmao.
You guys should give out awards at the end of the year. Categories of “best mechanic,” “best driver,” “fan favorite presenter,” and “most likely to wreck a car.”
Great idea😂
“most likely to wreck a car.” we all know that one...
@@LubbockSheriff ngl, that was a shot at Pumphrey.
This would make a sick episode
This season of HiLow has accidentally become an extra season of Money Pit
😂 so true!
I love how every episode just about has required a new engine. This is an expensive series 😂
Expensive yes. But I'm sure they can resell any of them for at least 15k ez
@@Shabam4895 oh without a doubt. Except the wrecked one tho, I would say, lmao
Dont forget Hicar is on is second car as well
Lol I love Subaru bodies, but their engines... You gotta have like a mother fuckin genius build one so it don't go boom
Really testing out that ebay sponsorship
Dude I can’t imagine the frustration all of you went through just to not give up on the series. I appreciate it a ton and will buy a couple shirts just cause you earned my respect 100%
@OfficialDonutMedia247. Send him 10 free Merches.
Subaru life
I heard a lot about investing with Mrs. Allison Parker and how good she is, please how safe are the profit?
I'm a long time investor, withdraw my profit of over £ 56,000 during the covid 19 pandemic
@@dilloncrain9111 shut up scammer
Donut has singlehandedly cured me from ever wanting a WRX
Got the wife a new 2016 WRX. Figured I'd tune it and she would have an STI. Called COBB to ask about reliability and longevity after a tune. They said the powertrain wouldn't survive 50k miles after a tune... This series has solidified that information.
I almost got one as a first car (this was back when they were still cheap and could be found for under 5k for a blob eye in fair shape). But I ended up settling for a Volvo my dad was planning to get rid of and it’s been great lol 😂
@@ittimjones cobb didnt say that youre just flat out lying lmao, also my cars over 100k stage 2 plus
Mine has 200k miles with bolt ons and tune you win some you loose some I’ve had 2 wrx and a lifted outback
@@ittimjones you cant compare a 2016 wrx with a 2007 they don’t even have the same engine or drivetrain
This series is just the most compelling ad for an evo in the history of cars
I miss the breakdown at the end where Nolan and James talk about the benefits of both and discuss which one is actually worth it. We all obviously expect to see the more expensive parts to perform better, but having people actually sit down and say whether they'd spring for the more expensive parts feels way more genuine.
I felt the same way, the gains on low car were seriously impressive for the price. I think they glossed over it because it'd be really hard to talk specifically about the turbos in amongst everything they did this episode. Both engines were basically rebuilt and there are a lot of supporting mods that probably deserved their own episodes, this one could have been feature-length but I think they worked hard enough on it as it is haha
think they're just tired from spending 2 weeks in agony over this cars lmao
Too busy replacing engines.
The other issue is they are not looking at the same turbo James didn't get a buschur 20G he went with a 3071R. So it's not like looking at a cheap option of the same spec turbo. It's been one of my issues with the whole high low cars set up. They do almost no research into anything they buy. Almost as if they just do shopping on reddit. More expensive more better. It's gonna get to the point to where they buy 2 super cars one with an engine and one with out and race them to see which ones faster. I had to tap out of this episode It's not for me.
@@TinoR626to be honest the only thing that made the 1st season of HiLow so entertaining was mostly the actual building of cars and the misc stuff that happened in-between, now they’ve basically removed that entire idea and just tell you what they bought, how it works, do a small building montage with some bits in it, and then show you the obvious results
As a owner of one of these myself this series has made me feel so much better knowing this happens to everyone
My friend has been thru 3 ej engines in the last 4 years😂
Get rid of that trash asap.
Just buy an evo 😌😌
why would you willingly buy a POS that blows engines every other week
💀 💀 💀
This series had proved to me that Nolan is a way better driver than I thought, he continually posts good times even when driving low car
It’s cause the low car has 30 more hp
@@NANA-es9nv he did good time on both cars bruh
@@NANA-es9nv "It’s cause the low car has 30 more hp"
1- When youre comparing 2 cars with around 200 hp, 30 hp difference aint going to make that much of a difference
2, the biggest one however- Theyve been having them all drive both cars, and Nolan has done great lap times with both.
Low car is still more expensive than YOUR car...
@@keithadoodle huh, what's the point of even commenting that bruh😂
Pro ( not a pro ) Tip - but it’s always a good idea to do a oil change before doing a major upgrade . Even if u may have to drain the oil again you will find issues like metal in oil and save yourself a lot of time not having to take new parts back off . Done multiple upgrades over the years and this saved me atleast a days worth of work twice so far .
Moral of story: subie life is indeed the hard life. Filled with pain. It’s legit crazy how many motors they’ve gone through for this series and I love it
I mean... They're legitimately old cars that generally get purchased by young men... who often beat the shit out of them and have to wait a paycheck or two for maintenance.
The EJ25 engine was known for weak head gaskets as well.
@Jack Wrath No you don't.
"Love is what makes a Subaru, a Subaru"
It's because they don't know how to fucking maintain them and it's super annoying that they're feeding the bad image of Subaru reliability
@@BaggnWaggn dude, wake up.
i love how jobe always explains complicated things so simply
Zach is the best host hands down
Watching this makes me appreciate the skill level of people able to keep their Subaru running each week.
To be fair they bought the worst possible models😂 5 speed WRX’s are absolute trash.
Thank you 😅
@@Lumlums the only good 5 speed wrx models are the 08-14 cause of the bigger LGT gears.
@@Lumlums they're really not, as long as you use them as designed. This whole series has been nothing but abuse.
@@jamesgravey have they abused them? Sure, but you could abuse almost any other half decent car like they did and they wouldn't blow a engine better yet multiple engines. They blew one on day one while they were stock. That says alot about those motors
The greatest show crossover of all time- HiLow meets Money Pit
I believe this series really puts it in perspective how little these guys research before going into a project.
Realistic for more car guys
It's awesome content nevertheless.
Yeah literally no baffled oil pans, air oil separators, putting a BOV instead of a DV, like wtf are you doing.
@@PongLenis32 well they always had baffled oil pans
@@SnowWowsti’s have them nor wrx’s
Literally a new engine/car every episode, I'm sure donut finance team love this :)
As long as enough people watch it, it doesn't matter
Well if they rebuilt them right, it wouldn't be an issue
The amount of money they are pulling in with sponsors and ads and yt views it doesn't matter
@@allentoyokawa9068 I know!!! Get a decent oil system!!!
@@allentoyokawa9068 its a subaru... you are wrong
As someone who went through 3 EJ motors in 7 years, I’ve never felt more connected to you all. Hits me right in the feels…😔
Only 3 in 7 years?
THOSE ARE ROOKIE NUMBERS! 😂
YOU GOTTA PUMP THOSE NUMBERS UP.
Not all EJ motors are created equally
They went through 3 motors in weeks, 3 STOCK motors
Same here! Had an 03 I modded to hell and back and now I have a 2015 STI. Love EJ's!
Dedication, Inspiration, and multiple subi engines is what carries this show to greatness
Yep. Great to see it all documented, good bad and ugly.
I thought you were gonna say “Dedication, Inspiration, and multiple subi engines is what makes a Subaru” 😂
"Its Turbo Time!" Do you know you quoted a movie right there? A Christmas movie at that, way to go Donut getting into the holiday spirit!
Sinbad was freaking hilarious in that villain getup.
And RIP Phil Hartman
I know it's been said many times already, but I really appreciate the commitment to this series and how honest you guys are when it comes down to issues such as the engine. Most other car shows and channels kinda gloss right over these sorts of problems but seeing you guys tackle it head on is very refreshing for viewers like me.
So fun to hear the thoughts behind what’s happening. 👍👍
Nolan's "that's my boss" straight up broke me 😂😂😂😂
lol was looking for someone who commented about that funnyasl haha
I watched it 4 times :D
I have such an extreme respect for the entire donut media team, even the ones who edit everything to make it all happen, this has been an the best advertisement to not buy a Hawkeye wrx I’ve ever seen, and all of you at donut are just the most motivated people I’ve ever seen to keep bringing people good quality real content.
Not just hawkeye 🤣 any subaru.
@@4RMS7TRONG i dont know, ive owned alot of subarus, and this hasnt been the best representation on how to properly take care of your car, especially the motor. both my subarus right now are almost at 200k miles and i beat the hell out of my WRX, i just take care of it xD
@@Austin-qg2sv the clue there is "I've owned a lot of subarus" if they were that good. You'd only have owned one 🤣
@@4RMS7TRONG I have upgraded as I grew up, only needed to do timing belt jobs with my dad, I got my dream subie and sold the rest, I have one I drive in the winter and one in the summer, one with a turbo, one without.
Thats not true of anything, If that sandwich was so good you’d have only eaten one.
I'm not a car guy, crease monkey, motor head, or any other way to express that I know anything else beyond a google search with cars. These videos are soo fun to watch and I greatly appreciate all he work put into these videos. Thank you!
"I wouldn't be surprised if we made it 7, 8, 9 miles" was just *so funny*. Always excited to see a new Hi-Low.
I read this as he was saying it what are the odds 😂
Maintenance is the most underrated mod.
A Hi-Lo on maintenance could end in hilarity
Exactly
Maintenance wont help when you have a subaru😅
@@me8548 facts, EJ series suck. FA is a bit better tho
@@SSmallwood fa is a hell of a lot better. Most of the 2.2 or smaller subie boxers are way more reliable then the 2.5
You guys are single-handedly driving the demand and prices down for these Subies and I'm here for it.
That first drag down the track is what these videos are all about. Love it!
First and only lmao
I’d love to see a Donut Media episode of up to speed with the whole team. The camaraderie y’all have built is the reason I watch this channel. It’d be interesting to see how it all came to be!
High five to Donut for these expensive "supporting modes" overview and installation here. Other TH-camrs would make a separate episode about each of them.
Zack's work is not forgotten and still appreciated: episodes about similar mods on Miata in MoneyPit were great.
As someone who is enjoying this lil series, I appreciate how much y'all are going through just to continue and finish through with it
“We will rebuild, and then we’ll be back. And then we’ll blow em’ up. And then we’ll rebuild. And then we’ll be back, and we’ll do that for the rest of our lives, because we’re subi boys now”
James is definitely a subi boy now
I love the little time lapse at 16:23 with the dog just standing there and then sitting down.
17:53 too
He's the head mechanic at the shop.
@@kg4135 Supervisor ... no wait, Puppervisor
12:20 As a Subaru owner, I sincerely hope Low Car's center differential is still good after towing like that. The owner's manual recommends flatbed towing, but allows for manual transmission models to be towed with all four wheels still on the ground with the transmission in neutral. If you tow it like you did with the front wheels in the air you will cause the viscous center differential to spin and heat up. Good luck with the rest of this series. Hopefully nothing else goes wrong.
We removed the driveshafts for the tow 👍
@@Donut Okay, now that makes sense. Good thinking.
I was looking for this comment 😂 That tow hurt me for a sec.
I assume they pulled the drive shaft.
@donut Real mechanics stuff
I’ve never seen a series of videos more accurately capture the highs and lows of car modification.
My favorite capture of the lows is when they rebuilt the steering rack on the Miata and it ended up leaking worse than before. That was too real.
As someone who did the Ebay turbo swap on an 02 Wrx, I can say the cheap turbos do great powerwise, as I could make 22 psi of boost on 91 octane on the stage 2 cobb tune
yeah, makes me wonder what the boost level and other differences were
What about a new series that teaches James and the crew to drive better? Like does driving lessons beat buying parts? Not saying this in a mean way, just think it would be a cool series to watch! I say this as I have a lot of faith in James’s ability to improve and think it would be cool to see his progression over a couple of episodes. Thanks for all the amazing content you provide, keep doing you, we love it as fans!
Feller. They drive with pros coaching them all the time. In half the videos they have a pro coaching them while driving laps. Hit this corner at this speed, brake now, shift now type stuff.
Feller. They drive with pros coaching them all the time. In half the videos they have a pro coaching them while driving laps. Hit this corner at this speed, brake now, shift now type stuff.
@@USA2283 lol, if so, then they suck.
need a colab with driver61
@@USA2283 driving with a coach is not enough, you need a proper sit down and learn about tire physics, weight transfer, what apex is best where etc. i could go on but u should get the point.
For next weeks video our transmission fails, tune in to find out if a new transmission is better than a rebuilt one!
Next video: Cheap vs expensive built EJ25
I'd like to see a built 5spd versus a 6spd swap, but we all know the 6spd would still destroy it in every way except 0-60.
only one that holds is the 6spd sti trans many buddies killed stock bottom ends and 5spds second they got over 300
jokes on you that was the first episode
6 speed all the way for sure, better gear ratios mo powwah baby
I love how hi lo is now turning into money pit x2 😂
"Hey bro, is your car leaking?" "Yeah, so what?" 😂 I felt that.
So, wholesome seeing the dog just happy to be there and watching in the time lapses. Whoever's their owner is a lucky guy!
On this Episode of high-low: Zach dodges car fluids, Jerry puts his finger in a nasty hole, Nolan makes a lowcar a manual lowrider, and James crashes another Subaru
Top gear intro lmfao
And on that bombshell it's time to end. Good night!
Watching this makes me appreciate the skill level of professional race teams ability to keep their cars running week after week
Imagine F1 teams upkeeping their multi million dollar cars
yup but professional race teams have alot of money to spend on parts and time
@@dennis_nl7587 f1 engineers are mindblowing
They also don't rev their engines after sitting cold and dry for an hour+ just cuz they wanna hear the exhaust sound.
@@k-aw-teksleepysageuni8181yeah this series has really highlighted no one at donut media actually knows anything about cars beyond spec sheets in magazines
their cars aren’t cursed, they just don’t know what they’re doing with them, a fresh motor requires engine break in, etc, they’re tuning with Cobb and using tgv deletes, they’re using garret turbo as the high option, they’re using TEIN coilovers as the high option, they have no clue what they’re doing with Subarus and that’s okay, but the bad light they’re shining is their fault
I love how consistently clapped Hi Car is in this season. Even with the chassis swap.
Hi car is secretly Lo car this season lol
It's hilarious to see you guys dealing with all the issues we dealt with when these cars were new. What a great Hi/Low series this has been to watch.
Just in case you don’t hear it enough…We love you guys!!! This channel and this series are just incredible.
We all love seeing the true nightmare of building cars. Most of us have been through it as well. Don’t ever stop!
Cars are pain! A truer statement has not been spoken.
You guys should have shown the dyno graphs to show how these spooled. How similar were the technical specs like trim and AR ratios in these turbos? Just curious about the minutia.
You think any of these clowns know what that stuff means?
@@dub537h5 you know Zach Jobe went to trade school and has a certificate right
@@ccshinaberry AS in Automotive Technology Basic, will not teach you about trim levels or dyno stuff.
But it's not about they don't know, its because the audience of this show is 13 and they don't know.
Hard reality check is that this show is ment for kids.
Meant for kids? You really think kids like to watch a bunch of dorks in their 30s wrench on wrx's that are older than they are? No, the "kids" youre thinking of watch 10 min videos about 2000 hp+ builds that juat spin tires and look like hotwheels cars.. This series would put most 13 yo's to sleep.
Right like get an eBay clone of that turbo
This segment has been a mix of money pit and hi/ low😂
I love when Nolan's emotions come through. I'm here for Nolan!
Keep your head up Nolan, we love ya!
Flash back to the oil leak on low z🤣
This season has been the culmination of every fear I have of working on a car stuffed into one omg
I’ve never heard a more accurate merch plug for a car channel🤣
I just love how this is a versus but everyone is working together simultaneously
Probably because no one is winning in this series with Subaru's lol
I'm not sure there's enough units of that car in existence to sustain this series until the end, but it's very interesting to watch :D
I like how in Money Pit they're like "make sure your car is safe to turbo before you do!" And here Hi Car is down like 30hp and they're just sending it.
It's all to perpetuate the stereotype that subarus are unreliable, they are making bad choices on purpose
@@PseudoKirby
EJs are unreliable
@@dillonh321 let me just go buy a Honda and drain the oil out to destroy the engine
@@PseudoKirby i don’t think they have a personal vendetta against subaru to show how shitty they are. consider the possibility that subarus might just genuinley be unreliable as fuck
@@PseudoKirby It's all a conspiracy!!!
$230 turbo but they broke the bank on supporting mods and engine rebuild 🤣🤣
Really makes the phrase "just get an evo" sparkle
I've been thinking this for a while, but I really believe a third car which gets the agreed best value parts would be super interesting and add new perspective on the parts together versus separately
this is such a great idea
Great series! I owned a Hawkeye WRX. Loved it. Was really reliable and modded well over the years. I progressed slower obviously but ended up with a very fast little car. Beat many STI’s, I think because my 5sp was way lighter and had longer gears. Had to be careful launching. 5sp was fragile. I did pretty much everything Donut did. Mine was more like “mid car”. I also swapped s***** steering rack with quicker ratio unit. I also avoided oil starvation with better pan, baffles and uptake. Money well spent, never spun a bearing after 300,000 kms. Well done team. Since WRX I’ve progressed through an E46 M3, Golf R and finally my dream car 911. 997.2 manual 6sp. All have been fun but the Subie was the most fun. Track days in summer and back road winter driving made the car my favourite. Cost of ownership eventually catches up. Bang for buck you just can’t beat a WRX. The f****** fuel pump on 911 cost more than my whole stage 1 on the Subie. That was just the start. So much cabbage spent on 911 eventually made me hate it and sell it. I’m rocking a 1968 Mercedes 220 now. Slow but so cool.
They really need to do an oil pickup for these cars.
3:32 James has that look like “damn..we’re going to have to replace this engine before we’re even done”
Make this series longer with more episodes going into the exact issues with each and the hunt for new engines and all that stuff.
No need to skip at any point of the video from start to finish the whole thing is enjoyable to watch to the funny skits, important information, random cougar crawling, down to the final tests thank you guy for the dedication to keep us entertained.
Respect for not just canning the entire Subuwu series but speeding it up - before blowing a bunch more motors! Lol
This series is the ultimate prank.
The ultimate slander.
The ultimate truth about subarus.
The ultimate punch in the face for fanboys.
And I absolutely love it
I can't help with the engine rebuilds financially, so here's a comment to boost this video, please do not stop doing this series. It's so much fun.
Man, I really appreciate that after the TONS of issues with these cars, they still push through to give us entertaining content
my favorite series on donut right now. i would watch a youtube channel just for this.
Weird
@Jack Wrath Shut up bro you got less than 150 subs with 2 cringe vids… 😂😂
@Jack Wrath there not cringe their are mechanics are you a mechanic? I don't think so
@Jack Wrath no one cares about your garbage self promotion.
that has existed for a while, its called road kill lol
Their dedication is unreal
Honestly kudos to the editing team and you guys for getting them back so fast. The video looks so good.
Right? I went down the same train of mods building my Subaru and it took me moths research, acquire parts, tear it down, build back up and get it tuned
Whenever I find myself wanting a Subaru, I'm going to come back and watch this series again to remind myself that's a BAD idea.
I have one. Wanted one ever since I was 6 years old and it’s super underwhelming …
No its not.... having one and im happy with it
@@kamilkrait5873 Old STis are pretty fun to drive, of course maintenance is probably awful and why none of my friends own STis anymore.
L.S or 2jz swap it
I want a Hawkeye sti so bad but I'm deterred due to reliability.
This series has me in tears and makes me love my evo so much more 😂😂😂.
Nolan: " $230 turbo."
M: *Flash Back to Low 350Z* "YK, I'm happy Aaron isn't around for this season."
P.S. What happened to Aaron anyway?
They just didn't go forward with having him be part of hi/low for this season, Aaron mentioned it on his Instagram. I don't think it was anything serious, doesn't seem to be any bad blood.
He has a show called Runs Good on MotorTrend
So I think a more fair comparison of the turbos themselves would be to use all of the exact same supporting mods. The supporting mods play a huge part in a turbo kit
I gotta say, this is my favorite series Donut does. I was hooked right away with the 350Zs.
I feel that Donut needed more support from Subaru professionals working on this platform. There are people who know how to build them in a right way and they are realible when pushed hard, with first try.
Mentioning that suggest I HCR in Eastern Europe. IAG in USA. ( I believe there are many more)
Lost it when Noland was having a heart felt , " if you wana save a subaru " legit spit laughed.
This is actually a Money Pit series and has hit its peak! 2.5 turbo suby's 😂 so good
Baffled oil pan would probably really help you guys going through engines
For real.
Honestly , yes
I mean, from the looks of things, they have IAG pans on the cars.
We've had them installed since the first track day (but not the stock test day)
James giggling like a little kid at the launch made all the engine failures worth it
This is why I have three of the exact same Subarus in the yard. I feel this episode with my soul.
I can't believe the amount of problems the team had to go thru with Subarus. The whole series now is pretty much tells everyone "Don't own one if you don't have the money"
Yeah, bt then look at how they towed it. You can't drag an AWD vehicle on a traditional wrecker like that. SMH.
The problem is with the team, not the Subarus. Poor decisions lead to poor results. But sure. It's the car's fault.
@@hawkeyestiguymaybe they removed the driveshaft? I'm hoping?
subarus are good without upgrades once u start messing w then shit goes south although the boxer engines are obv not the best
@@BigSmoke-lf9jk Eh, like anything, you have to be smart about what you are upgrading. You can't just slap a bunch of shit on and expect everything to be okay. Speaking for the STIs, they are perfectly happy with mild-ish bolt-ons, anything up to where the stock injectors max out, about ~300whp. The car will be perfectly fine and reliable assuming you have a quality tune (Pro tune, not OTS), and change your oil at intervals in line with how you drive it. And this aligns with plenty of other brands. Once you try to crank the power past that, you are well beyond stock power levels, and at this point you'd better be investing in better internals/parts to compensate for the additional power. Which also aligns with plenty of other brands.
The issue that Subaru has is that everyone under the sun wants to mod it, many do it just plain wrong, the car blows up, people are like "Subaru sucks," they meme the shit out of it, and then the internet jumps on the bandwagon. I promise you, you take care of your Subaru, treat it right, don't be stupid, and chances are extremely high that it will be dead reliable for you.
This season has been a fantastic beautiful disaster. Props to you guys for persisting and showing the reality of what can happen when you try to mod your car. As much as I love it, it also reminds me why I stopped trying to hot rod my own cars. I just couldn't afford it any more.
Love donut! Makes learning so much about cars a great time!
Thank you, Donut, for irreversibly crossing off Subies off my list of cars I want in the future lol
i mean, they're cool cars.. just 2jz swap em and they're solid lmao
@@jakeiswayblack3377 what about the Subaru sound?
@@Don-pk2uy Subaru sound is not because the boxer engine itself but the different length header pipes. Could be recreated with some messy welded pipes at the cost of performance loss.
@@pflaffik i stand corrected
@@jakeiswayblack3377 "just 2jz swap them"
just do it, its easy. lol....
btw, i have one, and they constantly have suspension and steering issues, diff issues, gearbox issues. clutches and brakes dont last long either.
love my car tho. its just something about them. when they are working great, they are sublime. even when they are falling apart they are good.
Thank god they’re continuing with Hi-Low, for sure the best series on the channel along with money pit and D-List!
"We'll rebuild and we'll be back, and then we'll blow em up, and then we'll rebuild then we'll be back" - James, 2022
what a classic
I appreciate that they teach us about how the product works before they install it. It’s fun but you’re still learning as you watch!
If they had filmed this more recently, they could have taken the advice of subscribers on like the first few episodes to get a better oil pan. Lots of people were commenting that the stock WRX oil pan allows oil to stray from the pickup tube under hard cornering like track days, which can be solved with better baffling and more capacity like the Killer B pan. Probably would have saved them a few engines by preventing oil starvation that results in worn/spun bearings.
Nah subies are broken 80% of the time that why you always see subie guys with 3 of em
They got IAG oil pans on the cars in this episode. Low car 9:43 high car 10:53. I'd imagine they have the baffle and pickup tube too.