I would look to make the hole in the timber larger than the sheet metal hole for that generator exhaust so that no heat can transfer to the wood / burn. Possibly also add some kind of heat proof insulation between it and the wood.
Thanks, the hole in the timber was larger but only by 10mm or so, to make sure it didn't contact in any place but I will likely add some additional heat wrap to make sure
I'd suggest insulating your battery box, lifepo4 batteries won't charge below 0C. Lots of waste heat to be harvested from generators, at best diesel to electric conversion is 30% efficient, the rest is heat.
Great news 👍👌👏 Bimble Solar are great to work with apparently. A fair few people I know have done camper conversions and all that have used Bimble, recommend them 👍 That genset looks the biz too👌
Yourr face says it all, it lights up when the lights light up the workshop. Best place to have a fire engine side of the electrics and those batteries. But please get some decent fire extinguisher with all that wood around. Brilliant
Well done, good luck for the next winter freeze. I recommend that you should insulate the battery storage box as the batteries do not like being at low temperatures.
Congrats on making your electrical setup more powerful. I was also wondering if you'd be ensuring that your lithium iron phosphate batteries were warmed up above 0 C to ensure that they can safely charge. Does your battery pack have a low temperature disconnect for charging? If not, then charging when the battery is below that will damage the cells. You might consider making the dump load from the hydro warm up the utility room as well.
I have had a few people mention the low temperature issue so I will be looking into that asap. The dump load heater has a cable so that I can move it around rather than a fixed heater so I was hoping to move it where we need it at the time
Seplos mason kit 14.4kwh 48v 2k Polynteck cables get hot, 5 needed to spread load Solar panels 60degrees from September 20th too March 20th Love the budget hydropower, had many lessons, burntout wind turbines, none thermostat diesel heaters ( got the 1kw too 8kw, too change parameters passcode 1688 speed and output, cause it can get hot and plastic smelly) and mould Dump load, sand battery, keep water hot for days Wouldn't have known 20years ago I would have a solar water wind farm, vegetables next, Now knowledgeable to help others with it
Brilliant Rob. It's great to see you complete yet another important task. It will make such a big difference to your comfort living. Plus, it's also interesting seeing you use something different than what you see most youtubers using' You've done your own research and found something that works better for your situation. I like that. Keep on keeping on matey. 😊👍
Thanks, we are only 2 days on it so far and it feels really unusual not to be draining the batteries fully twice a day but my wife and I keep mentioning how good it feels
Looking Good! You could have really wound us all up about that piece of red equipment below the SunSynk box - I was trying to work out if the shiny rails were some sort of sawmill system or perhaps a fancy CNC router, LOL to finding out it is your son's fire engine! 😆
yea I made it for him a couple of christmases ago. It does look like some kind of table saw and he wants to climb up now that the inverter is there I will have to remove the ladder
@offgridscotland so you built the fire engine as well........your a man of many talents rob that helps alot in this current world we live in if you can turn your hand to many things it's a big bonus
Thanks, its a bit rough around the edges but I ripped some fireman sam sounds from my iPad and got them playing though the speakers when he presses the buttons. I have a Wallace and grommit aeroplane planned for one of his birthdays as soon as he is big enough to drive it@@tinkersdug1969
Yes very cool, free water heater, for days, thinking it's going too have work on the same principle as a boiler with a blow off valve at the top and then a second sand battery outside or in a shed before the water turns too steam
I am so excited about having a go with a sand battery. Because I have already thought about it before beginning the house I am considering building one under the floor of the house.
Theirs an idea, using the the sand to hold heat in a electric floor. Just watched (turbulent hydro) Belgian company, if you've got 1.5m drop and a nice flow river, they can create 5 too 15 kw, that's two electric cars, cooker, wielder the works. And it's premade they just make a concrete tank and drop the vortex turbine in place. Sorry carn t post on same post as tablet to small to write in.
Thinking the solar array angle is going to be more and the decline is going to be later, worked out the dates for cornwalls solar improvement not Scotland's !
A new solar array mount is on the to do list as I have another two panels to add to the system so I will have a closer look into the angles when I get to that.
Congrats on getting it all up and running, nicely done as well. Could you show us what you can get out of the hydro now, 500 watts? Must be sooo much fun making your own power.
Thanks! I am getting 750watts reliably at the moment, I am going to do a short video on the inverter alone because it was the tweaks in the system that took the hydro from 350w to 750
Splendid 007 well done Rob freedom now my old mucker just watch over your new little baby now and see what she likes ? Good job mate ! Little john from chichester
My only suggestion would be to use two inverters, one for solar and one for hydro. That way if you lose an inverter you can still get power and keep your batteries charged while a replacement turns up,
Be careful I had a hyundai on my boat broke down within the first year I serviced it more then it needed and the returns policy was really complicated needed to send a video of the fault then send then sent it back at my cost then they turned around blaming me I had to fight for a refund I then replaced with a max speeding rods for half the price going strong 18 months now Keep up great vids Alex
I got the maxspeedingrods diesel heater and was very impressed with that but I didn't know they did a generator so I will definitely check it out now I know they do
Yeah mate it's the first time I used them the diesel heaters okay too hyundai was a petrol petrol 3500 watt massive thing I serviced it every50 hours runn time and the main head cracked after 150 hrs run time just over a year old they don't have service people they just tell you to record a video of the petrol leaking everywhere on your back deck and to send it back the battery swelled too.. just be really vigilant with it as a back up you need something worth it maxspeeding one I got is 3.3 kw and runs on eco for like 5 hours to 4 litres of petrol.. I have a 600 amp lithium 12 set up charges from 30 to full no problem on a can of e10 e5 I get a little better... I just subbed keep up good work..
Love your set up, however I'm a PC man, can you plug a monitor and keyboard in so you can see what's going on without having to squint at a small LED screen?
There is a wifi dongle that enables you to monitor it remotely so yea you could see it all on the main screen but I am not sure it includes everything that the mini screen does
I hope so the app has a return calculation on it which is really useful as it shows how much you would have paid for the power you generate if it was from the grid
Hi, just setting up our 16kw sunsynk inverter for our new micro hydro, very exciting. Did you populate the ' Advance- wind turbine ' settings on the inverter for the water turbine? and if so what did you populate it with...
Excellent! thats a really great inverter. Yes I just increased the amps on the wind turbine settings until the turbine and power output seemed balanced. It changes with the water pressure, I had to reduce the amp volt relationship today because the turbine was spinning too slowly due to less water being avaliable
Just came across your vlogs....first off, well done 👍.... Having seen the one on the 8.8 sun sunk inverter video, and in particular with regards to your 'possible' surplus requirements, have you ever thought of changing your generator out for a Hydrogen version, and produce your own hydrogen from the surplus electricity?....(Just a thought 🤔).... Well done again 👏👏👏
may I ask why you put the Lifepo4 batteries in the un-heated side. They can not be charged in temperatures lower than 32F (0C)? I built a utility room for our batteries, inverter and water system and heated with a diesel heater so they will not freeze.
It was a space thing. My sons fire engine takes the whole side up and he is also likely to play with the battery box (even if we contain it he will play with the cables). Its not permenantly sited though we will be increasing the number of batteries we have soon so will look at a better place when we do
You'll never get proper power out of that lightweight, low surge, short lived high frequency, transformerless inverter. You should have installed a low frequency, transformer based inverter.
I have heard from others that low frequency installer is a preferred option but we have more power than we need every day so we are happy with our set up
You will continue to be haunted by power woes because of this high frequency, transformerless inverter's poor surge capacity and short life expectancy. You should have purchased a low frequency, transformer based inverter if you wanted no more power woes.
The high frequency are easy to setup and easy to get you started. But the low frequency inverters are built like tanks . Victron now do an all in one low frequency inverter, mppt, charger 👍
@@beyondtheworkbench my old victron multiplus inverter charger 3000 watt, 70amp Ac charger weighs around 15kg. My hybrid inverter 3800watt 48v 80amp mppt weight is around 7kg
Glad you finally got there Rob, Its a nicer feeling when things start going your way, Another job off the list, off to the next1,lol.. 🙂👍
Thank you, the list is endless!
I would look to make the hole in the timber larger than the sheet metal hole for that generator exhaust so that no heat can transfer to the wood / burn. Possibly also add some kind of heat proof insulation between it and the wood.
Thanks, the hole in the timber was larger but only by 10mm or so, to make sure it didn't contact in any place but I will likely add some additional heat wrap to make sure
I'd suggest insulating your battery box, lifepo4 batteries won't charge below 0C. Lots of waste heat to be harvested from generators, at best diesel to electric conversion is 30% efficient, the rest is heat.
Great idea, I have a pile of spare insulation right next to it so I will add some
Very interesting setup. I am building a similar system in Ireland. I would like to connect on DM to exchange similarities in design.
Nice work Brother 💪
Thanks
Well done Rob, happy for you
Thanks Stu
Great news 👍👌👏 Bimble Solar are great to work with apparently. A fair few people I know have done camper conversions and all that have used Bimble, recommend them 👍 That genset looks the biz too👌
They were really helpful at Bimble over the months that I was planning the install so they are definitely somewhere to consider
Awesome! We have the Sun- Synk invertor also, cracking bit of kit. We also have batteries by the same company 👌
Keep up the great work 👍👍
Excellent glad to hear others also decided on the same setup so it must be good
Yourr face says it all, it lights up when the lights light up the workshop. Best place to have a fire engine side of the electrics and those batteries. But please get some decent fire extinguisher with all that wood around. Brilliant
Thanks I was extremely pleased to have them on. I have fire extinguishers all over the place just for that reason
Well done, good luck for the next winter freeze. I recommend that you should insulate the battery storage box as the batteries do not like being at low temperatures.
Thanks I did find exactly that last year so I will be insulating it while its warm this season
Brilliant, well done you so deserve success.
Thank you very much!
Congrats on making your electrical setup more powerful. I was also wondering if you'd be ensuring that your lithium iron phosphate batteries were warmed up above 0 C to ensure that they can safely charge. Does your battery pack have a low temperature disconnect for charging? If not, then charging when the battery is below that will damage the cells. You might consider making the dump load from the hydro warm up the utility room as well.
I have had a few people mention the low temperature issue so I will be looking into that asap. The dump load heater has a cable so that I can move it around rather than a fixed heater so I was hoping to move it where we need it at the time
Having decent power makes a huge difference 👍
so nice not having to run the generator all the time and the second freezer is a massive plus
And now you can do some extended experiments with generating power. Looking forward to see that. @@beyondtheworkbench
Seplos mason kit 14.4kwh 48v 2k
Polynteck cables get hot, 5 needed to spread load
Solar panels 60degrees from September 20th too March 20th
Love the budget hydropower, had many lessons, burntout wind turbines, none thermostat diesel heaters ( got the 1kw too 8kw, too change parameters passcode 1688 speed and output, cause it can get hot and plastic smelly) and mould
Dump load, sand battery, keep water hot for days
Wouldn't have known 20years ago I would have a solar water wind farm, vegetables next,
Now knowledgeable to help others with it
Thanks! I am looking into making a sand battery too as they sound really cool
Brilliant Rob. It's great to see you complete yet another important task. It will make such a big difference to your comfort living. Plus, it's also interesting seeing you use something different than what you see most youtubers using' You've done your own research and found something that works better for your situation. I like that. Keep on keeping on matey. 😊👍
Thanks, we are only 2 days on it so far and it feels really unusual not to be draining the batteries fully twice a day but my wife and I keep mentioning how good it feels
I would say 20,000 watt pv and 20kwh battery and your shorted. Recommendation for battery is frogstar
Thanks, I will revisit your comments when we are looking to upgrade as they are really useful
Looking Good! You could have really wound us all up about that piece of red equipment below the SunSynk box - I was trying to work out if the shiny rails were some sort of sawmill system or perhaps a fancy CNC router, LOL to finding out it is your son's fire engine! 😆
yea I made it for him a couple of christmases ago. It does look like some kind of table saw and he wants to climb up now that the inverter is there I will have to remove the ladder
Your DC inputs need surge protection, they are not expensive and are required for warranty as per the install manual
thank you, I will look into those as I wasn't aware I needed them.
Well that looks like a good system .that jenny is a beast for 1200 quid.
So glad to have enough output from it to know we can charge the batteries if the renewables go down
@offgridscotland so you built the fire engine as well........your a man of many talents rob that helps alot in this current world we live in if you can turn your hand to many things it's a big bonus
Thanks, its a bit rough around the edges but I ripped some fireman sam sounds from my iPad and got them playing though the speakers when he presses the buttons. I have a Wallace and grommit aeroplane planned for one of his birthdays as soon as he is big enough to drive it@@tinkersdug1969
@offgridscotland cool he will love that my second name is wallace lol
Cracking job Rob big milestone !
Thanks Neil
Big step forward... well done 👍
Thanks
Yes very cool, free water heater, for days, thinking it's going too have work on the same principle as a boiler with a blow off valve at the top and then a second sand battery outside or in a shed before the water turns too steam
I am so excited about having a go with a sand battery. Because I have already thought about it before beginning the house I am considering building one under the floor of the house.
Nice one I'm pleased all is coming together for you. I use Bimble Solar myself and find them spot on.
Excellent I have heard a few people agree with me on bimble being great
Theirs an idea, using the the sand to hold heat in a electric floor.
Just watched (turbulent hydro) Belgian company, if you've got 1.5m drop and a nice flow river, they can create 5 too 15 kw, that's two electric cars, cooker, wielder the works. And it's premade they just make a concrete tank and drop the vortex turbine in place.
Sorry carn t post on same post as tablet to small to write in.
I have seen their turbines and plan on making one in a future video as we have the perfect place to trial it
Brilliant going, that inverter really sounds good. Just looked at the price really good valve that 👍
It really is!
Great job and great progress!
Thank you!
Great job just to say stuff like the fuses are usually in some kind of enclosure or cabinet
Thanks I will look at adding something to enclose them
Thinking the solar array angle is going to be more and the decline is going to be later, worked out the dates for cornwalls solar improvement not Scotland's !
A new solar array mount is on the to do list as I have another two panels to add to the system so I will have a closer look into the angles when I get to that.
Congratulations rob
Thank you very much
Brilliant job. ❤❤❤❤
Thanks!
Congrats on getting it all up and running, nicely done as well.
Could you show us what you can get out of the hydro now, 500 watts?
Must be sooo much fun making your own power.
Thanks! I am getting 750watts reliably at the moment, I am going to do a short video on the inverter alone because it was the tweaks in the system that took the hydro from 350w to 750
Wow thats awesome.@@beyondtheworkbench
Splendid 007 well done Rob freedom now my old mucker just watch over your new little baby now and see what she likes ? Good job mate ! Little john from chichester
Thanks Little John, really wanted to get it done before she arrives later this month
My only suggestion would be to use two inverters, one for solar and one for hydro. That way if you lose an inverter you can still get power and keep your batteries charged while a replacement turns up,
that's a great suggestion, as soon as we have enough cash we will look into adding some redundancy
Be careful I had a hyundai on my boat broke down within the first year I serviced it more then it needed and the returns policy was really complicated needed to send a video of the fault then send then sent it back at my cost then they turned around blaming me I had to fight for a refund I then replaced with a max speeding rods for half the price going strong 18 months now
Keep up great vids
Alex
I got the maxspeedingrods diesel heater and was very impressed with that but I didn't know they did a generator so I will definitely check it out now I know they do
Yeah mate it's the first time I used them the diesel heaters okay too hyundai was a petrol petrol 3500 watt massive thing I serviced it every50 hours runn time and the main head cracked after 150 hrs run time just over a year old they don't have service people they just tell you to record a video of the petrol leaking everywhere on your back deck and to send it back the battery swelled too.. just be really vigilant with it as a back up you need something worth it maxspeeding one I got is 3.3 kw and runs on eco for like 5 hours to 4 litres of petrol.. I have a 600 amp lithium 12 set up charges from 30 to full no problem on a can of e10 e5 I get a little better... I just subbed keep up good work..
sounds like you have worked through the early problems to something that works really well now. Thanks!@@forresteralex
Love your set up, however I'm a PC man, can you plug a monitor and keyboard in so you can see what's going on without having to squint at a small LED screen?
There is a wifi dongle that enables you to monitor it remotely so yea you could see it all on the main screen but I am not sure it includes everything that the mini screen does
Should pay for itself in no time! 👍
I hope so the app has a return calculation on it which is really useful as it shows how much you would have paid for the power you generate if it was from the grid
👍
😁
Have you heard about the direct PV to hot water tank?
I have now, I will be looking into it for our next upgrade thanks for the tip
Hi, just setting up our 16kw sunsynk inverter for our new micro hydro, very exciting. Did you populate the ' Advance- wind turbine ' settings on the inverter for the water turbine? and if so what did you populate it with...
Excellent! thats a really great inverter. Yes I just increased the amps on the wind turbine settings until the turbine and power output seemed balanced. It changes with the water pressure, I had to reduce the amp volt relationship today because the turbine was spinning too slowly due to less water being avaliable
Just came across your vlogs....first off, well done 👍.... Having seen the one on the 8.8 sun sunk inverter video, and in particular with regards to your 'possible' surplus requirements, have you ever thought of changing your generator out for a Hydrogen version, and produce your own hydrogen from the surplus electricity?....(Just a thought 🤔).... Well done again 👏👏👏
I hadn't considered that but now you have mentioned the idea I will definitely have a look into it!
may I ask why you put the Lifepo4 batteries in the un-heated side. They can not be charged in temperatures lower than 32F (0C)? I built a utility room for our batteries, inverter and water system and heated with a diesel heater so they will not freeze.
It was a space thing. My sons fire engine takes the whole side up and he is also likely to play with the battery box (even if we contain it he will play with the cables). Its not permenantly sited though we will be increasing the number of batteries we have soon so will look at a better place when we do
SAME AS DEYE INVERTER PRICES ARE CHEAPER ELSEWHERE ALSO BATTERIED CHEAPER ELSE WHERE ALSO I WOULD LOOK AT WALL MOUNTED BATTERIES
Thanks! I had considered wall mounting them but they are so heavy I wasnt sure on doing it
I saw this video now, disregard my comment on a video about part 2 of micro hydro power.😅
thanks I am working through the comments one by one so I have replied anyway
Lightweight, high frequency inverters are toys. They don't even have an output transformer to provide galvanic isolation. No thanks, not safe.
ok thank you
15kw, you wouldn't need battery ! A small back up battey, in case a fuse went lol
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Is your muffler still to close to the osb panel as it is flammable??
I cut a bigger hole in the OSB than the metal so that there was an air gap around the exhaust. Do you think its still at risk?
You'll never get proper power out of that lightweight, low surge, short lived high frequency, transformerless inverter. You should have installed a low frequency, transformer based inverter.
I have heard from others that low frequency installer is a preferred option but we have more power than we need every day so we are happy with our set up
You will continue to be haunted by power woes because of this high frequency, transformerless inverter's poor surge capacity and short life expectancy. You should have purchased a low frequency, transformer based inverter if you wanted no more power woes.
That's good to know, I will look into one of those as I don't think I knew they existed or knew the difference
The high frequency are easy to setup and easy to get you started. But the low frequency inverters are built like tanks . Victron now do an all in one low frequency inverter, mppt, charger 👍
@@beyondtheworkbench my old victron multiplus inverter charger 3000 watt, 70amp Ac charger weighs around 15kg. My hybrid inverter 3800watt 48v 80amp mppt weight is around 7kg
That's a massive difference!@@sun-sea-solar