Those rolls are not that uncommon btw. You just buy a fractured life base and then dense fossil spam 10-20x and you have triple t1.... the real OP thing is gaining %life on block setups with this. And then you run shrines xD a massive shrine is nuts
4:00 No, you're not in mirror-tier territory, not even close. Especially considering that you could use a base with 26-28% quality and ditch the life roll for Triple T1 ES mods. Those items are not hard to craft at all. Boots are a slight exception where a prefix has to be fractured.
yeah I see it as the focus on the life rolls here is part of the story of lifestacking being better, but doesn't change anything in relation to if the apostate is worth it compared to the alternative? Or am I missing something ?
I think that evasion + es gear would be the play here. Yes, you loose a lot of raw life but it's still quite high with the new bases and you can add suppression. Also, evasion can help you a lot if you choose to play with dissolution of the flash and if not, you can use iron reflexes for physical mitigation
I think it's a good idea to talk about this in terms of ES only. As you could use Kaom's with Maxroll Life on all other pieces of gear. >> so if you factor in just the ES. It's still getting more than 1000 extra life from the ES conversion, at 1405. Which compared to kaoms 1100 with heist enchant. >> Is considerably better. But thats only with perfect t1 rolls. Apostate is still better than kaoms with good gear mind you, but I don't think it's as big of a disparity as someone might be lead to believe. Though if we factor in the fact that it can have sockets, and then we put on Untouched soul... Now things get a little crazier...
@@ririxdd it doesn't have a Life tag so the passive works. I am baffled at you spreading such trivially checkable misinformation and people actually liking it.
i used the dissolution of the flesh + apostate tech to enable a pure phys reap/exsanguinate self-cast berserker. it uses a lot of items that have energy shield on it like ravenous passion or maw of conquest, the spell impale gloves and rathpit of course which would all be wasted with dissolution. the apostate converts all of that into life which is what i want to stack as high as possible anyways effectively working as a ~700 life body armor with some resists, a good amount of strength which i want to stack as high as possible too and the full 6-link which i need. its very good indeed. and i am very glad that i bought my well rolled apostate before it got any traction :D (but the build is on hold for now because it is crazy expensive to get going :( )
The other day I saw a ward stack summoner, wonder if we simply swap from ward to life will it work just as well since ward in that build essentially serve as life in order to tank a top end hit
So energy shield base + life vs es eva base + life with fractured spell suppressed roll. Depending on how it goes the second option can end up just being better overall if the build isn't able to stack endurance charges but gain decent spell suppress. Would need to pob the total survivability tbh.
I was just talking to a friend about how undervalued high life/es gear has been so far this league based on trade listings. I'm just wondering how long that will last.
I'm not thinking about how this can be leveraged - Trickster/Assassin Flicker Strike with Bloodthirst support? Great Evasion and ES bases, semi close to Versatile Combatant for 65% block cap on both spell and attack - Warden Melee? Barkskin + Dissolution should be great combo + some evasion (kinda easy to get 95% evade chance). Tinkture + Bloodthirst should also be amazing on Bow build (notice that Bloodthirst mentions attack skills, not attack melee skills) - Berserk STR stacking with rage? Dunno, but sounds synergistic - I recall there was Phys wand marauder builds, that might benefit from Bloodthirst too i kinda looking at Bloodthirst Support more now, with Melee changes that we have in 3.25. It might be good option now (Reap? Maybe)
It can work in that build but it's really hard to use the apostate when you give up one of the armour items that would give a bunch of life(in the case of that build, it's the crest of desire helmet). I think if you lose one of the slots, there are better options to use instead, you basically need all of the slots to get the most out of it because the body itself grants no stats of its own
This is an odd question, but are you sure this is uber cortex only? I picked one of these up yesterday, and I don't think I accidentally ran the uber version, seeing as I had to just look it up to see how it happens now (I skipped 3.24).
Very true, but a good nerf imo, it's less of a surefire thing for most endgame builds. Personally I didn't use the adorned in my lifestacker last league but I had considered it for late prog
you might think it is buffed, but it's not...😂 i have been playing the life-stacking builds every league since 3.19...damage has not been a problem since it had been introduced to the game... the main problem had been the survivabilities for these types of builds , but the "buffed" block you mentioned, doesn't really make you feel any difference from before. (for the problem wit the builds was revolving around t17s, not ubers. ubers, we killed them with ease)
Only energy shield from equipped Armor items will be converted into life. Your examples are ES-only items which is incorrect. Items must be on ES-armor base, not pure ES
This is incorrect. The modifier which states armour items is not referencing armour the defensive stat, but rather armour the item class(boots, gloves, helmet, body armour, shield)
@@dreamcore_gg oh, I checked it in pob and you're right. Sorry for my hasty thoughtless comment. I should do it before writing anything, such a shame 🤦
So to have a ton of life, you have no defences with no phys damage reduction sources as you have no armour and are not using something like Lightning coil for 50% reduced Phys damage taken by itself I feel like you'd die a lot to phys damage using this as you'd be taking 100% physical damage right? At least with the Kaom's heart chest you get the life and keep your armour
@@dreamcore_gg Thanks for the reply! I mean that the comparison will be more accurate if the total life provided could exclude the life rolls. Not really standing for team Kaom here XD
Going from around 8k life to 12-13k unfortunately isnt worth losing all your armor and chest slot even if you are lowlife with bloodthirst support + voidforge, and spell builds easily get 12k+ es without this so...😂
Idk about 12-13k hp, I managed to get 17k hp last league while using a coil for body armour before the life mod changes. If you're using the apostate, you should be aiming for at least 20-25k+
There's a few problems with what you said: 1) You can't compare the Apostate from this league to previous league due to all the buffs you mention. The only fair comparison is to Kaom's Heart 1000 Life. 2) You shouldn't add the life rolls into your calculations because the Apostate does nothing with those life rolls. You get the same life from those pieces no matter what body armour you wear. So your extra life from the Apostate only counts the extra ES you have, which is 199+317+468+240=1224. 3) Let's compare that 1224 to Kaom's Heart. If you used your prefixes on gloves, boots, and helmet for the Life + % defense rolls instead of ES rolls, you can get an extra 28+28+33=89 Life at max rolls. So you're looking at 1224 Life vs 1089 Life. Of course, Kaom's also allow you to have defense in armour/evasion/ES as well, but no sockets. 4) Kaom's 1000 max life is very easy to get, but to even get to 1000 max life from Apostate requires really great (although not mirror-tiered) gear. You're looking at 15c vs 15 divines.
Yea this is what I was thinking. The item is a bad early game choice and a bad late game choice. Unless there becomes some special mechanic it takes up too much value for its worth
Kaom's heart isn't really a good comparison though, because you're incentivised to use different items with either setup(pure es gear for the apostate vs a way to solve having no sockets using kaoms). This video was simply showing how much flat life you can obtain from those slots, nothing more.
in what universe do "armour items" without "armour" equate to "armour items"? afaik the nominator for these items are "gloves, helmets, boots, shields, rings, amulets, belts" none of these are/were ever called "armour items" unless they had an explicit "armour" modifier...... so either this item is bugged, or they've settled for calling anything "armour"?
Any life stacking enjoyers in 3.25??
yessir
I'm here! But i really want that 50% reservation and % spent life added as phys damage to spells
Just got to maps with a health stack chieftain, using burning arrow of vigour to ignite
Those rolls are not that uncommon btw. You just buy a fractured life base and then dense fossil spam 10-20x and you have triple t1.... the real OP thing is gaining %life on block setups with this. And then you run shrines xD a massive shrine is nuts
Been playing a chaos conversion Relic of the Pact Occultist and really liking that. I've got about 20mil dps and 18k life atm.
Good reminder that the Untouched Soul amulet exists. Life per empty red socket is huge
Man. Those intro. I hope GGG add you to the core!
Intro game on point, absolutely at the top of the content creator mountain right now for quality of content
4:00 No, you're not in mirror-tier territory, not even close. Especially considering that you could use a base with 26-28% quality and ditch the life roll for Triple T1 ES mods. Those items are not hard to craft at all. Boots are a slight exception where a prefix has to be fractured.
yeah I see it as the focus on the life rolls here is part of the story of lifestacking being better, but doesn't change anything in relation to if the apostate is worth it compared to the alternative? Or am I missing something ?
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I think that evasion + es gear would be the play here. Yes, you loose a lot of raw life but it's still quite high with the new bases and you can add suppression. Also, evasion can help you a lot if you choose to play with dissolution of the flash and if not, you can use iron reflexes for physical mitigation
relic of the pact eating good
I think it's a good idea to talk about this in terms of ES only. As you could use Kaom's with Maxroll Life on all other pieces of gear. >> so if you factor in just the ES. It's still getting more than 1000 extra life from the ES conversion, at 1405. Which compared to kaoms 1100 with heist enchant. >> Is considerably better. But thats only with perfect t1 rolls.
Apostate is still better than kaoms with good gear mind you, but I don't think it's as big of a disparity as someone might be lead to believe.
Though if we factor in the fact that it can have sockets, and then we put on Untouched soul... Now things get a little crazier...
You get free 15% life from Life Mastery because Apostate has no life modifiers too, have to take that into account
@@cauthrim4298 it has a life mod gain life instead of es is a life mod
@@ririxdd It shouldn't. Its a unique modifier, and does not have the "Life" tag on it.
@@ririxdd it doesn't have a Life tag so the passive works. I am baffled at you spreading such trivially checkable misinformation and people actually liking it.
giving up 6 sockets or not giving up 6 sockets, you don't even need to compare the two.
Thank you so much for your insane videos and all the work you are providing behind ! ❤
i used the dissolution of the flesh + apostate tech to enable a pure phys reap/exsanguinate self-cast berserker. it uses a lot of items that have energy shield on it like ravenous passion or maw of conquest, the spell impale gloves and rathpit of course which would all be wasted with dissolution. the apostate converts all of that into life which is what i want to stack as high as possible anyways effectively working as a ~700 life body armor with some resists, a good amount of strength which i want to stack as high as possible too and the full 6-link which i need. its very good indeed. and i am very glad that i bought my well rolled apostate before it got any traction :D
(but the build is on hold for now because it is crazy expensive to get going :( )
I think for 3.26 I will league start this and go Burning Arrow of Vigor ❤
The other day I saw a ward stack summoner, wonder if we simply swap from ward to life will it work just as well since ward in that build essentially serve as life in order to tank a top end hit
So energy shield base + life vs es eva base + life with fractured spell suppressed roll. Depending on how it goes the second option can end up just being better overall if the build isn't able to stack endurance charges but gain decent spell suppress. Would need to pob the total survivability tbh.
Good intro. You'll make it on The Internet one day, son.
this tech with flame link sound nutty lol, its funny too that dancing dervish just got fixed and happens to work really well with flame link.
Just making sure here, you know they reversed the dervish buff right? Had me excited too but Alas.
When will you make vid about Atziris rule? Seems like perfect candidate for forgotten series!
It's on the list!
it's even more fun when you factor in legacy shields with 1k+ es
Yeah my second char was a life stacker, did all the ubers on it then did boss carries, farmed like 120divs for my next char lol
Gear was also cheap af the basic setup with the needed uniques was like 3-4 divs total on 2nd week
I thought they added uber Godzilla into the game ....
Does this item interact with nodes that increase defenses on shield?
I was just talking to a friend about how undervalued high life/es gear has been so far this league based on trade listings. I'm just wondering how long that will last.
Great video as usual. could you answer to this question. How works the interaction with Replica HeatShiver and Wardens "Oath of Spring"?
I'm not thinking about how this can be leveraged
- Trickster/Assassin Flicker Strike with Bloodthirst support? Great Evasion and ES bases, semi close to Versatile Combatant for 65% block cap on both spell and attack
- Warden Melee? Barkskin + Dissolution should be great combo + some evasion (kinda easy to get 95% evade chance). Tinkture + Bloodthirst should also be amazing on Bow build (notice that Bloodthirst mentions attack skills, not attack melee skills)
- Berserk STR stacking with rage? Dunno, but sounds synergistic
- I recall there was Phys wand marauder builds, that might benefit from Bloodthirst too
i kinda looking at Bloodthirst Support more now, with Melee changes that we have in 3.25. It might be good option now (Reap? Maybe)
The usual suspect would be relic of the pact
Deadeye shattering steel was the build for this last league with blood thirst
Relic of the Pact runs it second league in the row
Burning Arrow of Vigour
I tried it last league, and it felt unreliably squishy. I died quite randomly, while being on few % of unreserved life. But damage is substantial, yea
Have you put this into the life stacked you worked on last league ? If so how’s it looking
It can work in that build but it's really hard to use the apostate when you give up one of the armour items that would give a bunch of life(in the case of that build, it's the crest of desire helmet). I think if you lose one of the slots, there are better options to use instead, you basically need all of the slots to get the most out of it because the body itself grants no stats of its own
BRO IF THIS INTRO DOESN'T END WITH YOU TAKING GLASSES OFF I AM RIOTING
EDIT: okay that was unexpected but amazing LMAO (still rioting)
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I have question, how strong is strenght of blood with the new (old) vaal pact?
Hi, will it work with ephemeral edge? I mean this sword give a lot of damage to us for ES , and increase es.on 40 % is I'm not mistaken...
It converts all ES from those gear slots to life, so no. If you used EE you would never use this chest
So how much life is possible on medium and high end builds?
May be great with the cold dmg per ES bow runecraft.
Does that work if the es becomes maximum life?
That intro. My god
I am a simple man i see godzila i upvote.
This is an odd question, but are you sure this is uber cortex only? I picked one of these up yesterday, and I don't think I accidentally ran the uber version, seeing as I had to just look it up to see how it happens now (I skipped 3.24).
It is Uber only
I got some insane ES gear this league.
at the same time the adorned was nerfed, so i guess that is the tradeoff for life-stackers here
Very true, but a good nerf imo, it's less of a surefire thing for most endgame builds. Personally I didn't use the adorned in my lifestacker last league but I had considered it for late prog
you might think it is buffed, but it's not...😂 i have been playing the life-stacking builds every league since 3.19...damage has not been a problem since it had been introduced to the game... the main problem had been the survivabilities for these types of builds , but the "buffed" block you mentioned, doesn't really make you feel any difference from before. (for the problem wit the builds was revolving around t17s, not ubers. ubers, we killed them with ease)
Only energy shield from equipped Armor items will be converted into life. Your examples are ES-only items which is incorrect. Items must be on ES-armor base, not pure ES
This is incorrect. The modifier which states armour items is not referencing armour the defensive stat, but rather armour the item class(boots, gloves, helmet, body armour, shield)
@@dreamcore_gg oh, I checked it in pob and you're right. Sorry for my hasty thoughtless comment. I should do it before writing anything, such a shame 🤦
So to have a ton of life, you have no defences with no phys damage reduction sources as you have no armour and are not using something like Lightning coil for 50% reduced Phys damage taken by itself
I feel like you'd die a lot to phys damage using this as you'd be taking 100% physical damage right? At least with the Kaom's heart chest you get the life and keep your armour
That's the design of the item yes, if you build it correctly you end up with 5-6 times the normal life of a character. Life is your defence
Slap petrified blood and progenesis in there, some recoup/bloodnotch/defiance of destiny, you are tanky as fuck
4:57 the calculation and comparison is a bit unfair.. You can still get those life rolls with kaoms.
Yes but kaom's has no sockets(can't use a 6 link in the body or untouched soul) and it doesn't gain life from the ES on those items
@@dreamcore_gg Thanks for the reply!
I mean that the comparison will be more accurate if the total life provided could exclude the life rolls. Not really standing for team Kaom here XD
@@chi1992 Yeah I agree, I worded that wrong in the video, really I just wanted to show the kaom's buff in light of all of the other changes
@@dreamcore_gg And sorry for derailing and missing that point 😂. Couldn't help getting into mansplaining mode. Thanks for the great videos!
literally just made a lifestacker lol
the intro are getting better and better, keep it up XD
Time to dust off Relic of the Pact
Why would you let it collect the dust in the first place, though. It was extremely viable ever since it came back to the game.
FK THE VIDEO, I'M ALWAYS HERE FOR THE INTRO!
Going from around 8k life to 12-13k unfortunately isnt worth losing all your armor and chest slot even if you are lowlife with bloodthirst support + voidforge, and spell builds easily get 12k+ es without this so...😂
Idk about 12-13k hp, I managed to get 17k hp last league while using a coil for body armour before the life mod changes. If you're using the apostate, you should be aiming for at least 20-25k+
You've been conservative by not having the ES gear at 30 quality. Anyone crafting mirror tier gear is probably buying 30 quality gear.
Very true, and at that type of currency investment, probably synth implicits too
cant craft it straight outta ground LITERALLY! lmao
Yeah everything is....
There's a few problems with what you said:
1) You can't compare the Apostate from this league to previous league due to all the buffs you mention. The only fair comparison is to Kaom's Heart 1000 Life.
2) You shouldn't add the life rolls into your calculations because the Apostate does nothing with those life rolls. You get the same life from those pieces no matter what body armour you wear. So your extra life from the Apostate only counts the extra ES you have, which is 199+317+468+240=1224.
3) Let's compare that 1224 to Kaom's Heart. If you used your prefixes on gloves, boots, and helmet for the Life + % defense rolls instead of ES rolls, you can get an extra 28+28+33=89 Life at max rolls. So you're looking at 1224 Life vs 1089 Life. Of course, Kaom's also allow you to have defense in armour/evasion/ES as well, but no sockets.
4) Kaom's 1000 max life is very easy to get, but to even get to 1000 max life from Apostate requires really great (although not mirror-tiered) gear. You're looking at 15c vs 15 divines.
Yea this is what I was thinking. The item is a bad early game choice and a bad late game choice. Unless there becomes some special mechanic it takes up too much value for its worth
Kaom's heart isn't really a good comparison though, because you're incentivised to use different items with either setup(pure es gear for the apostate vs a way to solve having no sockets using kaoms).
This video was simply showing how much flat life you can obtain from those slots, nothing more.
Why not roll a hybrid %es instead of a pure life? I'm sure the % roll would be better than flat life.
It's not
in what universe do "armour items" without "armour" equate to "armour items"? afaik the nominator for these items are "gloves, helmets, boots, shields, rings, amulets, belts" none of these are/were ever called "armour items" unless they had an explicit "armour" modifier...... so either this item is bugged, or they've settled for calling anything "armour"?
Memecore ;)
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i dont understand the point of having 30k hp and having 31k ehp with a 30,001 max phys hit.
Doesnt the item say equipped “armour” items? Thought this only applied to armor es bases.. but seems like im tripping