Trombone Lesson: Plunger Mute Techniques - Learn How to Use a Plunger as a Mute

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  • Description: In this video we will explore the different techniques that you can use and the amazing sounds you can create on the trombone with a simple toilet plunger. Many great trombonists throughout history have mastered the use of the plunger mute. We will highlight a few of the most influential players, as well as learn how to create some of these sounds for yourself.
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  • @toster387
    @toster387 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    who knew that something you find in the bathroom could sound so good

    • @TheChopsShop
      @TheChopsShop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There's a new plunger mute now so you can leave these in the bathroom!😁

  • @spicebones
    @spicebones 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Hello. I’m a trombone teacher myself, and I found your videos are pretty cool to give to my students in Montreuil, France. Especially this episode where you nail to give *all* informations on plunger trombone, easy to understand and apply, even for non-English natives. Excellent work, thanks for sharing.

    • @TheChopsShop
      @TheChopsShop  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks for sharing the video with your students! I’m really glad it’s helpful. I have another plunger video that will be out in the future. There’s an exciting new plunger mute coming to the trombone world!

  • @showingYOUtheworld
    @showingYOUtheworld 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    First of all I want to THANK YOU my trombone brother from another mother 👍🤘😁
    I am a classical professional trombonist and I am going on tour in Germany with the music of Walt Disney.
    Yesterday I took the scores and ohhh , wtf....a plunger 😲 ?
    I never played in my professional opera life with a plunger, but you and your video saved me !
    Thank you once again 🙏
    P.S. I am a basstrombonist and any advice from you about how to hold my instrument while using that plunger will be more than welcome.
    Thank you in advance 🍻

    • @TheChopsShop
      @TheChopsShop  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad this video came in handy right on time. Holding the bass bone with the plunger can be tricky. I don't have much experience playing bass bone and plunger but I can suggest you check out videos with Earl McyIntyre and Dave Taylor. Look at their hand placement. I would imagine it's underneath the bell to help balance the horn.

  • @BigBeatBigBand
    @BigBeatBigBand 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wonderful music and thank you for sharing your knowledge!

    • @TheChopsShop
      @TheChopsShop  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s my pleasure to share the knowledge! Thanks for watching.

  • @gmh8547
    @gmh8547 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great vid!

    • @TheChopsShop
      @TheChopsShop  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      GMH thanks I’m glad you dig it!

  • @pflaht
    @pflaht ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for doing the video. I was familiar with Bunk Johnson’ s use of the pixie mute plunger combination but did not know about Wycliffe Gordon. I will follow up!

    • @TheChopsShop
      @TheChopsShop  ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm sure you will enjoy Wycliffe's plunger work. He truly is a master. Also check out Al Grey and Tricky Sam Nanton if you haven't already.

  • @gottalivehappy
    @gottalivehappy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I wonder who just thought one day "I have a plunger and a trombone, so what if I unscrew the rubber part off and put it in the horn?"

    • @TheChopsShop
      @TheChopsShop  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think a lot of the early players where not afraid to experiment with sound. I've seen clips where players used a glass to change the sound of the horn. Use what you have around you and don't be afraid to try things.

  • @marcogonzalez596
    @marcogonzalez596 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great info brother.

    • @TheChopsShop
      @TheChopsShop  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m glad it was helpful, thanks for watching!

  • @albertnash888
    @albertnash888 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Charlie Brown: That’s odd… I could’ve sworn I heard adults talking in here.

    • @TheChopsShop
      @TheChopsShop  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      One of the most famous uses of the plunger trombone!

  • @mikaelsocha9951
    @mikaelsocha9951 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    WoW 👍👍👍

  • @kevinhornbuckle
    @kevinhornbuckle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great info and encouragement. I think of Ed Neumeister as a master of the trombone mute blues. Check out his 'The Peacocks' recording.

    • @TheChopsShop
      @TheChopsShop  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree, Ed Neumister is a great plunger player. There are several people I did not mention that deserve recognition like Art Baron and Steve Turre.

    • @kevinhornbuckle
      @kevinhornbuckle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Chops Shop Thank you. Can you recommend recordings of Art Baron using the plunger mute?

    • @TheChopsShop
      @TheChopsShop  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kevin Hornbuckle I’m not sure about what recording to check out. I did reach out to Art and asked him what he would recommend. I know his playing from being fortunate enough to sit next to him over the years.

  • @spencersussman8416
    @spencersussman8416 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video! Thanks for sharing. How do you balance the weight of the instrument between your hands/shoulder? I have difficulty securing my horn while having freedom to move the slide while playing.

    • @TheChopsShop
      @TheChopsShop  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank for checking out the video, you ask an excellent question. I must admit that the way I hold the horn has changed overtime. I used to have the bad habit of leaning into the horn to balance it on my shoulder. I’ve changed the way I hold the horn, I now have most of the weight of the bell sitting on my palm. My left hand is pretty much under the bell (around a 6 o’clock position) and I have the horn resting about midway up my neck. That gives me more stability in my embouchure and my slide hand.

  • @leilanibarboza2056
    @leilanibarboza2056 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video!
    What about using the plunger together with glissandos? I would love to have a clear reference to the effect

    • @TheChopsShop
      @TheChopsShop  ปีที่แล้ว

      There are definitely examples of that but in short phrases. If you listen to Wycliffe Gordon, Tyree Glenn or Al Grey, you’ll hear them use glissandos to approach notes.

  • @stevenadvensky1761
    @stevenadvensky1761 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the great information in your video. I do have two questions about prepping the plunger.
    1. Someone advised me to stick a coin like a penny or nickel into the hole of the plunger and I as wondering what you think of that. They say it changes the sound a little.
    2. Maybe because my plunger is new I'm finding the grip to be a little bit slippery. Your plunger looks a little rough on the surface and I was wondering if maybe you scoffed it up with some sand paper or something to help break it in.
    Thanks for your help.

    • @TheChopsShop
      @TheChopsShop  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for checking out the video! I’ve seen people with a penny in their plunger. I’ve never done it and don’t see it as necessary but I don’t think it will hurt the overall sound. As far as my plunger being scuffed up, that’s from good old fashion use! I inherited this plunger from Grover Mitchell who played lead in the Basie Band for years with Count Basie. It was passed on to me through another player in the band. Using some sandpaper to help the grip might do the trick for you. 😉
      With all that being said, I’m currently testing the prototype for a plunger mute designed by Kenny Rampton and Ed Hirschman. The trumpet version is already out, the trombone version will be available soon. This mute address many issues that make it difficult to play the plunger. It plays in tune, is a great size for most bells and has a penny system set up where you can open and close the penny inside the hole. I’ve found that makes a difference when playing with a pixie mute. I’ll make a video about it once it’s available to the public!

  • @maurizioghezzer4302
    @maurizioghezzer4302 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    FANTASTIC ! BRAVO! I DON'T UNDERSTAND ENGLISH, I'M ITALIAN, IS THE SORDINA IN THE VIDEO REALLY A STURALAVANDINI? DOES IT HAVE TO BE PUNCHED IN THE CENTER?

    • @TheChopsShop
      @TheChopsShop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes it is a real toilet plunger. This is how it was done for years but now there is an actual plunger mute for the trombone. Here is a link to the website:
      www.hirschmanmutes.com/#prettyPhoto

    • @maurizioghezzer4302
      @maurizioghezzer4302 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheChopsShop👍👍👍

  • @johndowson7929
    @johndowson7929 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hy Dion , I find with the plunger ( alone) it takes a lot of stamina and endurance mainly due to having to use more air as the plunger constricts the air flow.

    • @TheChopsShop
      @TheChopsShop  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is true. I have to say, the “big blue” plunger solves a lot of those problems for me. The other part is, learning how to hold the horn and play most of your stuff with the plunger half open. Al Grey is the master teacher of this technique. Watch his plunger hand while he plays open plunger. The plunger movement is minimal until he intentionally does something dramatic with the mute. Practice playing scales while holding the plunger. You will learn a lot about the nuances between the slide and the plunger.

    • @johndowson7929
      @johndowson7929 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheChopsShop I think if you practise enough with plunger , the holding the mute becomes like 2nd nature I support the bell with my wrist , then you find where the limits are on each note in how far to hold the mute away and each note has its limit in how close we can hold the mute to the bell , it's experimenting with it just on majors , I'd say we can safely say Al Grey had it nailed. My dad used to play with just the plunger and he always amazed me in how much finesse he actually had in using one . One of the things I seem to find easy is lip trills in using it

    • @TheChopsShop
      @TheChopsShop  ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s awesome, you got to see you dad play plunger trombone.

    • @johndowson7929
      @johndowson7929 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheChopsShopwith my dad I used to always smile the way he'd just drop the plunger to the floor n carry on . Later on in his life he'd do maybe one gig a mnth and never practise . Earlier on when I was a toddler he'd even have the horn out before and after a gig . Very simular to Roy Williams playing back in the 60's. A total Teagarden fanatic , my mum used to say I was listening to Teagarden before I was born. It was just normal for me I never actually thought it unusual , thought it was normal being brought up around jazz musicians till I had to go to school .

  • @walugigamer521
    @walugigamer521 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    People in the peanuts when they talk