I hope you enjoy one of my favourite projects in a while, which can be applied to any retrocomputer 3D case model. Full disclosure: The crystal clear case does cost a pretty penny but the good news is there are options starting at $85*, or if your budget is somewhere between the two it'd be great to see how the translucent red turns out! And of course prices will only get cheaper over time. If you print a case feel free to send me a photo here, and have fun!: docs.google.com/forms/d/19CW4SdUgQslNRoWfJbywMCVqKi0-r1ciP5cCglhHNMg _*Incl. discount, excl. tax/P&P, this channel does not benefit from any purchases you make or receive affiliate commission from sales, so there._
That is a work of industrial art! It's worth all you spent on it, and it looks like a million pounds. The idea that you could compose more of your fabulous music on it makes me especially happy, not to mention playing all the nostalgic games of our youth on it. Aloha!
christian it calls for a file for the assembly test @ pcbway - do you know what that file is that we need to upload please for its 'assembly test' - none of the files from the creator seem to fit the bill mate. thx!
The clear C64 case is actually quit retro and would completely feel at home in the "Clear Craze" that started in the 80's and went into the 90's. Back then it was a big trend for manufactures to clear case their products. Items like portable cassette players, calculators, phones, Apple's translucent iMacs, gaming machines, etc. Very fitting to see the new retro Commodore case on Retro Recipes. 👍
Very impressive. I watched this episode saying "please don't crack it" over and over again as you put all the screws in, and then attacked it with a drill. Heart attack when it went crunch! Glad to see there was no real damage :) I suspect that the slight sagging is why the screw holes and locking tab didn't quite line up, maybe printing the top and bottom as 2 pieces avoids that? Not sure I'd have been brave enough to lever it open with pliars and hit it with a dremel but the result is outstanding Great job as always
Awesome project, again. Good modification to splice the CAD files together, for a better cohesion. Tweak the back clips, and adjust the mounting pins for the keyboard, and it's gold. Lovely
I actually tried that and it started interfering with the C64 for some reason, so kept it separate. You can see the join where I had previously spliced the USB cable into the C64. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
That looks so cool! Really awesome project. I like the lights in side the case. That leaves it wide open for any lighting idea somebody might have, and with a good enough power supply they could run right off the main power.
I am impressed, it looks fantastic. And great that we can replace the breadbin case with that 3D model (although I do have some slight concerns about how the top looks with that "split" in the middle, obviously the larger industrial printer can do the whole width.)
Wow, this crystal clear case looks awesome, especially with THAT hardware! I think 3D printing with translucent material surely is the most challenging discipline! You can't even see it's 3D printed. Looks more than it's coming directly out of a mold! No comparison to these "common" 3D printers one could buy! 👌
Beautiful clear case! I would have never believed that case was 3D printed! Technology has come a long way and I can't imagine what we'll see in another 5 years.
Fantastic video! Stunning result, certainly a LOT cheaper than going through the process getting plastic injection molds created! You have created an amazing machine Christian. I did notice the right side of the bottom half of the case was bowed upward at 14:50 in the middle which would have affected the final fitment together. I also did see that the labels for the modulator holes in the back of the top case are swapped 14:40 the square hole should be H/L and the round hole should be RF 🙂
I have never wanted a Commodore 64 so badly well done Mate, I really enjoyed this special episode, and congrats on being the 1st wholly new 64 design owner.
One of the benefits of printing with ABS, is that it's weldable with acetone.. wipe the surfaces with acetone and press together.. hey presto, you got ONE part instead of two, and done well it will look and behave like it originally was printed as one.. Downside is just that ABS can be a bit of a hassle to print but....
13:51 - The look, the gasp, when the clear case is revealed.😍 The quality is ridiculous ! Always impressed with your creativity, passion, and troubleshooting skills. Another fantastic video. The result is glorious.
I absolutely loved this and the end product looked amazing, your face said all we needed to know when you hooked it up and turned it on. As always this was a great watch when eating my tea so am a happy bunny. As always keep up the great work and roll on the next one. Have a lovely weekend and you 3 and the dogs take care 🙂
3D printing has come a long way but it still has a long way to go, at least at the consumer level. I can imagine that in 20 years or so a print will be much more detailed, more versatile and 1000 times faster.
In terms of straightening out the top piece, obviously there's the option of leaving it overnight with some books on top, etc. etc. But combined with that, what if you unscrewed that part with the four screw holes and started again, putting in each screw part of the way, and slowly torquing down different screws so that it starts to pull in straight and re-align?
Stunning! Do I still think that clear case is worth $400... 4x a black or white print... no. I can't believe that the material used or the process is 4x more expensive than a standard print. But the results are beautiful and as always, the care you take in both the build/construction and the video editing is priceless!
It's 400 mainly because, I think, people don't use that option much or it is only done using resin printing and the others via FDM. It has to be dimensionally perfect though if I would pay 400.
@@nadiaplaysgames2550 Yep, I think it's the post-processing work mostly. I don't know of any resin machine (commercial or otherwise) that can produce parts that clear right off of the printer. There's a lot of hands-on post-processing work to get that finish. It is beautiful though!
@@SaitoGray No, its not that easy, clear needs TOO MUCH post processing to stay clear and not became transcluscent. I'm printing clear parts for few years and post processing need 5x the time of a transcluscent or opaque color.
Oh my Nerdgasm! I had a 64c and I truly loved the form factor and the machine but the breadbin was my first love. Have we finally done it? Has the Commodore journey in the 21st century come to an end???
That is an amazing result. Makes me want to get a resin printer. Although, for a print that size I'd need a really tall one and it might be time to consider DIY'ing it.
Even though I prefer C64C case, your transparent breadbin looks absolutely stunning! I've also got a transparent case from icomp, I'm a sucker for transparent cases in general. All the leds inside look wonderful! Cheers from a fellow C64 lover who recently became a dad too, all the best to your family! :)
Thank you Perifractic for sharing this awesome project of yours. It's one of my favorites in a while! The crystal clear case looks stunning and nice to know there are more affordable options out there. I'm curious about the translucent red version too! If I print a case, I'll send you a photo. I appreciate you being upfront about not benefiting from purchases or affiliate commissions because at times I feel this can sway judgments. . Keep up the great work, with the main aim being having fun and bringing back those wonderful memories. Cheers
Great result in the end, strange that there's not been any 3rd party bread bin cases - especially when from the Spectrum point of view there's loads available. Maybe the recreated EVO64 board might drive the community to create one? Anyway my waffling aside the quality of the PCBway 'print' is superb.
I personally don't like clear cases, I want it to be as original as possible. However, seeing you build this and the joy you experience during the process - at least what you show on video, some troubleshooting and anger were certainly involved also 😋 - is awesome! Of course, my opinion on the transparent case is just my personal opinion and I do not want to say that you shouldn't have made a transparent one, I love that you picked it yourself and it was fun to see the quality and result! You always produce 100% more than needed when making videos, they always have great content, they are edited perfectly both with video and audio and your personality is just amazing. Thank you for another great video, it was pure joy to watch! ❤
CNC Kitchen has a video on "printing glass". You have to print SLOW. REALLY, REALLY SLOW. You also have to print 100% aligned infill. So it will use a lot of material. I think you find glass .3mf files on printables. It should be compatible with bambu studio (as it's just rebranded prusa slicer)
Incredible result. Not perfect but very close. I would probably choose white. I wonder if that would make any difference. It's nice to have decent options for making new breadbins. I wonder how the conventional 3D-printed 2-piece design would have worked out. Few people have a printer large enough at home but that could be outsourced. Ok, I'm jealous. You got me. Happy now? By the way when are you offering tours of the Fracticlab? For educational purposes, of course. My word is my bond. Honest...
You should think about making your own mold to create your own case. Probably won't work well for a transparent one, but should for anything else. It's actually not that hard to create a mold of the size of a C64. Would also make cool video.
The transparent case looks great. I am in need of a new board for my C64 breadbin, recently I have managed to break a pin/leg on a new VIC-II replacement and two other chips when trying to fix a black screen on bootup. So left it well alone until i fix those pins/legs!
I prefer the slimline 64C case because it is more comfortable to use and I like using the original brown keys/keyboard with it. The clear case looks good.
An excellent build Perifractic. I was a little late to watch this as I am looking after my Dad. I hope you, Ladyfractic, Babyfractic, and Josiefractic stay healthy and prosperous. Ooh, that was almost a Vulcan statement. PCBWay is undoubtedly a very versatile service. Great job guys. See you on the next one. Hopefully.
I was going to suggest modifying the model to make it 2 piece instead of 4 before sending it off, but it looks like you did that (unless the original model is available in both versions). I know Noel's Retro Labs did a video on 3d printing and he got a case that was FDM printed. It looked like injection molding it was so good. I'd consider that option since you can probably get more colors (I would think) and you said it feels a little strange with resin. Anyway nice result!
@@RetroRecipes by the way I think one of my comments got lost. The anomaly you mentioned...I think I saw that on 3d musketeers 3d print fix Friday video. There was a similar issue and he said it was a volumetric flow issue. The program is the printer is too fast for the filament with a stock nozzle. It seems like an odd place for that to be the issue though so it's hard to say. But it looked very similar. If that is it, the solution is to lower the volumetric flow rate. It should slow down the printer. CNC kitchen did a video on the subject as well.
With the keyboard screws, you could try slacking off the ones that you've already got so you've got a bit of wobble room then insert all 8 screws and start tightening each one a little bit in turn, and keep going around until they're all snug.
I find i amazing - you can't see that it is 3D printed - one would guess that some sort of "layers" should be visible. Even a resin 3D printer would make some sort of layers or traces of being 3D printed instead of injection-molded.
The model site is currently running a summer sale, so you can get the model mentioned in the video (and many more) at a discount of up to 70%. The model shown in the video is now $9.00.
Nice work, that looks absolutely amazing! I still have my original breadbin and much prefer their look to the newer slimmer versions, so it's great to see a new project that uses the classic shape. Thanks for also showing their prototyping. I've always been a bit disappointed by the finish of most 3D printers and always wondered if there was a better quality version out there we could use - obviously there is! Do you think you could create an opaque case of a similar finish to the original using this process, or would it always be a bit shiny? And did you stitch the two files together to make one large, complete one, or did they do that for you? Cheers!
Thanks! The 3D Model comes with this unibody version. I suspect the translucent or black/white would be closer to the original finish, then just apply matte beige spray if you want to make it look truly original. It would be close!
@@RetroRecipes YES! I forgot you could of course also spray paint it. I'm trying to design a small wedge shaped computer to house my Mister Multisystem, something like an Apple IIc or a BBC Micro. I was about to CNC it out of wood for an Apple I style! PS - just found my original Zzap 64 magazines and thought of you - it's funny, both these and the original Crashes look so LARGE when you've become used to the new A5 versions! It's like you're reading a broadsheet newspaper!
A few of the printer slicers now have a option called fuzzy layer ( or similar) essentially it makes the outer layer look like the factory textured layer. Theres various settings for it and it seems to work. I was able to get a finish that was similar to my Amiga,I suspect the peeps at PCBWay could accommodate this option.
Excellent video! Really amazing to see a new breadbin case in 2023. Mine breadbin case on my C64 is toast, all 3 clips int he back are broken off and 2 of the 3 screw supports for the case are either stripped or expanded and not accepting screws. This might be a nice way to get a new case for it. Since there were some anomalies with your build is there a way to adjust the files so it prints perfectly? Curious if you are trying to correct the errors. Cheers for the video! Hope you and ladyfractic and all the puppyfractics are well :)
13:23 Oh, the second I saw that piece I knew immediately that it was a Resin 3D Print. You can't get pieces that translucent with filament. There are very high quality resin printers you can buy for the home. Since they are resin prints, they should be fairly strong.
PC cases would be better printed in a bigger printer like a cr 10 max. The thin tiny details can be done in a smaller layer height as a different part to ensure it comes out better and most of the case can be combined (like the bottom) to make things fit better.
Even the iComp/PixelWizard cases from original injection molds have appearance defects which you can even see in the shots in your video. They do not bother me but they are there.
Nice, I hope PCBWay give you a healthy discount now after all that promotion work. That said its a thing of beauty. Even though I have my own printer I have several prints that I just cant quite get right so may well send them to PCBWay to get the job done.
Great video! Thank you for sharing your adventures in retro computing! Nice clear case. Though I myself couldn't justify that much on my budget, but still cool!
That is beautiful :) That LED strip could be all hidden inside and it should run from the C64 power supply, from after the power switch inside the C64..
Those crazy tree structures are meant for resin printers where the part hangs from the build plate. There are different structures for this type of printer that just support from underneath and not the sides.
I don't think they're exclusively for that as the option is provided in the Bambu software for this printer model. But yeah, definitely not ideal application here.
@@RetroRecipes they are not. those are tree supports. which have been in every slicer for awhile now (bambu's are a different algorithm for 'em but they've been available since cura introduced them). supports are never ideal but the idea with tree supports is they use less filament than traditional supports while being easier to remove (hopefully).
Resin supports are different. These are actually what Prusa calls organic supports. They are designed for organic models. I use them all the time since prusa slicer added them in the 2.6 alpha earlier this year (now in RC2) They are easier to remove and use less filament. In a couple cases they collapsed and I had to switch to traditional supports, but on a multi-colored print I guess it makes sense as the bonds aren't always as strong especially with multiple brands involved. Resin supports are more like stick figures. Prusa has them for a very long time.
I am terribly sad to hear about your dog passing. The sickly cat I took in almost 2 years ago died on the 6th. It sucks. Since we seem to have a shared love for Chartreuse, I look forward to seeing some wild color-blended cases. Cyan & Chartreuse go well together.
You've outdone yourself Peri, That is a gorgeous NewC64 and worth every penny for that view! Congrats to you and Lady Fractic on the new Baby Fractic!!
Having a clear case I would have painted the colour of my choice from the inside, just like how you would paint RC car bodies. Painted from the inside it will stay shiny & the paint would last for ages without easily being rubbed off.
The sparkly effect material MAYBE the reason fothe failure of the 3D printed case The material creating the sparkly effect is only embedded into whatever the material it was you used, NOT bonded into it, So when you tried to remove that stubborn support tube what actually happened is a crack formed around a stress point and then you had a runaway failure.
I hope you enjoy one of my favourite projects in a while, which can be applied to any retrocomputer 3D case model. Full disclosure: The crystal clear case does cost a pretty penny but the good news is there are options starting at $85*, or if your budget is somewhere between the two it'd be great to see how the translucent red turns out! And of course prices will only get cheaper over time. If you print a case feel free to send me a photo here, and have fun!: docs.google.com/forms/d/19CW4SdUgQslNRoWfJbywMCVqKi0-r1ciP5cCglhHNMg
_*Incl. discount, excl. tax/P&P, this channel does not benefit from any purchases you make or receive affiliate commission from sales, so there._
That is a work of industrial art! It's worth all you spent on it, and it looks like a million pounds. The idea that you could compose more of your fabulous music on it makes me especially happy, not to mention playing all the nostalgic games of our youth on it. Aloha!
what a resin printer
what about a resin printer
@@toddcook8179 Did you watch the video?
christian it calls for a file for the assembly test @ pcbway - do you know what that file is that we need to upload please for its 'assembly test' - none of the files from the creator seem to fit the bill mate. thx!
Congratulations to you and Lady Fractic. I hope Baby Fractic will enjoy retro computer with Mom and Dad.
Baby will probably be able to build their own gaming system by the time they're 3 years old!
It's a bit expensive, but I have to admit the end result is beautiful. An entirely new Commodore 64 in 2023 is awesome!
Bragging rights are priceless.
Looks really slick...... but can it run Crysis? :D
The clear C64 case is actually quit retro and would completely feel at home in the "Clear Craze" that started in the 80's and went into the 90's.
Back then it was a big trend for manufactures to clear case their products. Items like portable cassette players, calculators, phones, Apple's translucent iMacs, gaming machines, etc.
Very fitting to see the new retro Commodore case on Retro Recipes. 👍
Very impressive. I watched this episode saying "please don't crack it" over and over again as you put all the screws in, and then attacked it with a drill. Heart attack when it went crunch! Glad to see there was no real damage :)
I suspect that the slight sagging is why the screw holes and locking tab didn't quite line up, maybe printing the top and bottom as 2 pieces avoids that?
Not sure I'd have been brave enough to lever it open with pliars and hit it with a dremel but the result is outstanding
Great job as always
Oh the sixtyfour is still such a beauty. And this machine of course is also.
Awesome project, again.
Good modification to splice the CAD files together, for a better cohesion.
Tweak the back clips, and adjust the mounting pins for the keyboard, and it's gold.
Lovely
That, my friend, is a thing of beauty. Well done! Also loved LF’s candid reaction at the end
Fantastic C64, you could of wired the leds to the pcb as long as you get 5volts it would be great, but your c64 looks so awesome with the clear case
I actually tried that and it started interfering with the C64 for some reason, so kept it separate. You can see the join where I had previously spliced the USB cable into the C64. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
That looks so cool! Really awesome project. I like the lights in side the case. That leaves it wide open for any lighting idea somebody might have, and with a good enough power supply they could run right off the main power.
I am impressed, it looks fantastic. And great that we can replace the breadbin case with that 3D model (although I do have some slight concerns about how the top looks with that "split" in the middle, obviously the larger industrial printer can do the whole width.)
Wow, this crystal clear case looks awesome, especially with THAT hardware! I think 3D printing with translucent material surely is the most challenging discipline! You can't even see it's 3D printed. Looks more than it's coming directly out of a mold! No comparison to these "common" 3D printers one could buy! 👌
I don't know how you keep coming up with such amazing new videos. That clear case is a work of art. Thank you
Thank you for your kind words! Means a lot 👍🕹 You should see what's on the overly long To Do list!
Beautiful clear case! I would have never believed that case was 3D printed! Technology has come a long way and I can't imagine what we'll see in another 5 years.
Fantastic video! Stunning result, certainly a LOT cheaper than going through the process getting plastic injection molds created! You have created an amazing machine Christian.
I did notice the right side of the bottom half of the case was bowed upward at 14:50 in the middle which would have affected the final fitment together.
I also did see that the labels for the modulator holes in the back of the top case are swapped 14:40 the square hole should be H/L and the round hole should be RF 🙂
All good points but I've become less of a perfectionist in my "old" age and as it all works and looks good, I'm happy!
@@RetroRecipes Absolutely. Don't get me wrong, it's an amazing case. Fitting for a completely brand new C64 🙂
I have never wanted a Commodore 64 so badly well done Mate, I really enjoyed this special episode, and congrats on being the 1st wholly new 64 design owner.
One of the benefits of printing with ABS, is that it's weldable with acetone.. wipe the surfaces with acetone and press together.. hey presto, you got ONE part instead of two, and done well it will look and behave like it originally was printed as one.. Downside is just that ABS can be a bit of a hassle to print but....
13:51 - The look, the gasp, when the clear case is revealed.😍 The quality is ridiculous !
Always impressed with your creativity, passion, and troubleshooting skills.
Another fantastic video.
The result is glorious.
I absolutely loved this and the end product looked amazing, your face said all we needed to know when you hooked it up and turned it on. As always this was a great watch when eating my tea so am a happy bunny. As always keep up the great work and roll on the next one. Have a lovely weekend and you 3 and the dogs take care 🙂
3D printing has come a long way but it still has a long way to go, at least at the consumer level. I can imagine that in 20 years or so a print will be much more detailed, more versatile and 1000 times faster.
I have a few resin printers, but the price from pcbway might still be the better way, as resin is so expensive
In terms of straightening out the top piece, obviously there's the option of leaving it overnight with some books on top, etc. etc. But combined with that, what if you unscrewed that part with the four screw holes and started again, putting in each screw part of the way, and slowly torquing down different screws so that it starts to pull in straight and re-align?
Stunning! Do I still think that clear case is worth $400... 4x a black or white print... no. I can't believe that the material used or the process is 4x more expensive than a standard print. But the results are beautiful and as always, the care you take in both the build/construction and the video editing is priceless!
It's 400 mainly because, I think, people don't use that option much or it is only done using resin printing and the others via FDM. It has to be dimensionally perfect though if I would pay 400.
I think fact it resin and the post-processing and QA work
@@nadiaplaysgames2550 Yep, I think it's the post-processing work mostly. I don't know of any resin machine (commercial or otherwise) that can produce parts that clear right off of the printer. There's a lot of hands-on post-processing work to get that finish. It is beautiful though!
@@BEdmonson85 It's as easy as to print with clear resin and use a clear coat over it.
@@SaitoGray No, its not that easy, clear needs TOO MUCH post processing to stay clear and not became transcluscent. I'm printing clear parts for few years and post processing need 5x the time of a transcluscent or opaque color.
Oh my Nerdgasm! I had a 64c and I truly loved the form factor and the machine but the breadbin was my first love. Have we finally done it? Has the Commodore journey in the 21st century come to an end???
That is an amazing result. Makes me want to get a resin printer. Although, for a print that size I'd need a really tall one and it might be time to consider DIY'ing it.
Even though I prefer C64C case, your transparent breadbin looks absolutely stunning! I've also got a transparent case from icomp, I'm a sucker for transparent cases in general. All the leds inside look wonderful!
Cheers from a fellow C64 lover who recently became a dad too, all the best to your family! :)
OMG I remember pointing these out on the first New C64 vid! The PCBWay printing is amazing!
Absolutely stunning. Expensive, but so worth it. Great video.
What a beautiful machine! The greatest computer of the 1980's.
Thank you Perifractic for sharing this awesome project of yours. It's one of my favorites in a while! The crystal clear case looks stunning and nice to know there are more affordable options out there. I'm curious about the translucent red version too! If I print a case, I'll send you a photo. I appreciate you being upfront about not benefiting from purchases or affiliate commissions because at times I feel this can sway judgments. . Keep up the great work, with the main aim being having fun and bringing back those wonderful memories. Cheers
Thanks and glad you liked it all! 👍🕹
I'm in awe. It is so wonderful. I really miss transparent tech😢
Glad to see project baby Fractic is going well. Looking forward to seeing the finished product.
Great result in the end, strange that there's not been any 3rd party bread bin cases - especially when from the Spectrum point of view there's loads available. Maybe the recreated EVO64 board might drive the community to create one? Anyway my waffling aside the quality of the PCBway 'print' is superb.
Would be cool to print one and cold cast it in iron filings and resin.. and petina it and add rust effects etc etc..
I personally don't like clear cases, I want it to be as original as possible. However, seeing you build this and the joy you experience during the process - at least what you show on video, some troubleshooting and anger were certainly involved also 😋 - is awesome! Of course, my opinion on the transparent case is just my personal opinion and I do not want to say that you shouldn't have made a transparent one, I love that you picked it yourself and it was fun to see the quality and result!
You always produce 100% more than needed when making videos, they always have great content, they are edited perfectly both with video and audio and your personality is just amazing.
Thank you for another great video, it was pure joy to watch! ❤
ARE YOU GUYS HAVING A BABY?! CONGRATS!
Wow, that clear case looks incredible. And watching the building of 3d printed case and c64 felt very satisfying.
CNC Kitchen has a video on "printing glass". You have to print SLOW. REALLY, REALLY SLOW. You also have to print 100% aligned infill. So it will use a lot of material. I think you find glass .3mf files on printables. It should be compatible with bambu studio (as it's just rebranded prusa slicer)
it will not look THAT good though. lol
Incredible result. Not perfect but very close. I would probably choose white. I wonder if that would make any difference.
It's nice to have decent options for making new breadbins. I wonder how the conventional 3D-printed 2-piece design would have worked out. Few people have a printer large enough at home but that could be outsourced.
Ok, I'm jealous. You got me. Happy now? By the way when are you offering tours of the Fracticlab? For educational purposes, of course. My word is my bond. Honest...
You should think about making your own mold to create your own case. Probably won't work well for a transparent one, but should for anything else. It's actually not that hard to create a mold of the size of a C64. Would also make cool video.
Looking forward to seeing yours 👍
@@RetroRecipes I'll forward you a picture when done...
The transparent case looks great. I am in need of a new board for my C64 breadbin, recently I have managed to break a pin/leg on a new VIC-II replacement and two other chips when trying to fix a black screen on bootup. So left it well alone until i fix those pins/legs!
I prefer the slimline 64C case because it is more comfortable to use and I like using the original brown keys/keyboard with it. The clear case looks good.
An excellent build Perifractic. I was a little late to watch this as I am looking after my Dad. I hope you, Ladyfractic, Babyfractic, and Josiefractic stay healthy and prosperous. Ooh, that was almost a Vulcan statement.
PCBWay is undoubtedly a very versatile service. Great job guys.
See you on the next one. Hopefully.
I was going to suggest modifying the model to make it 2 piece instead of 4 before sending it off, but it looks like you did that (unless the original model is available in both versions). I know Noel's Retro Labs did a video on 3d printing and he got a case that was FDM printed. It looked like injection molding it was so good. I'd consider that option since you can probably get more colors (I would think) and you said it feels a little strange with resin. Anyway nice result!
Yup, the model comes with a unibody option. And next time I need a case (or a video idea) I will for sure try different colours 👍🕹
@@RetroRecipes by the way I think one of my comments got lost. The anomaly you mentioned...I think I saw that on 3d musketeers 3d print fix Friday video. There was a similar issue and he said it was a volumetric flow issue. The program is the printer is too fast for the filament with a stock nozzle. It seems like an odd place for that to be the issue though so it's hard to say. But it looked very similar. If that is it, the solution is to lower the volumetric flow rate. It should slow down the printer. CNC kitchen did a video on the subject as well.
Awesome! And can't wait to see what Ladyfractic is 3d-printing!
With the keyboard screws, you could try slacking off the ones that you've already got so you've got a bit of wobble room then insert all 8 screws and start tightening each one a little bit in turn, and keep going around until they're all snug.
I find i amazing - you can't see that it is 3D printed - one would guess that some sort of "layers" should be visible. Even a resin 3D printer would make some sort of layers or traces of being 3D printed instead of injection-molded.
The model site is currently running a summer sale, so you can get the model mentioned in the video (and many more) at a discount of up to 70%. The model shown in the video is now $9.00.
Well done .what a amazing 64 bet ya very proud 🇬🇧👍❤️
Yes, i think I'm in love too, it is absolutely beautiful, Great video as usual, thank you
Nice work, that looks absolutely amazing! I still have my original breadbin and much prefer their look to the newer slimmer versions, so it's great to see a new project that uses the classic shape. Thanks for also showing their prototyping. I've always been a bit disappointed by the finish of most 3D printers and always wondered if there was a better quality version out there we could use - obviously there is! Do you think you could create an opaque case of a similar finish to the original using this process, or would it always be a bit shiny? And did you stitch the two files together to make one large, complete one, or did they do that for you? Cheers!
Thanks! The 3D Model comes with this unibody version. I suspect the translucent or black/white would be closer to the original finish, then just apply matte beige spray if you want to make it look truly original. It would be close!
@@RetroRecipes YES! I forgot you could of course also spray paint it. I'm trying to design a small wedge shaped computer to house my Mister Multisystem, something like an Apple IIc or a BBC Micro. I was about to CNC it out of wood for an Apple I style! PS - just found my original Zzap 64 magazines and thought of you - it's funny, both these and the original Crashes look so LARGE when you've become used to the new A5 versions! It's like you're reading a broadsheet newspaper!
A few of the printer slicers now have a option called fuzzy layer ( or similar) essentially it makes the outer layer look like the factory textured layer. Theres various settings for it and it seems to work. I was able to get a finish that was similar to my Amiga,I suspect the peeps at PCBWay could accommodate this option.
@@cameralabs Pretend you're a giant! :D
i have 100+ used cases in stock. Breadbin and C. With new hinges if needed. Just €15.
Excellent video! Really amazing to see a new breadbin case in 2023. Mine breadbin case on my C64 is toast, all 3 clips int he back are broken off and 2 of the 3 screw supports for the case are either stripped or expanded and not accepting screws. This might be a nice way to get a new case for it. Since there were some anomalies with your build is there a way to adjust the files so it prints perfectly? Curious if you are trying to correct the errors. Cheers for the video! Hope you and ladyfractic and all the puppyfractics are well :)
Cheers! You can certainly edit the model but the anomalies aren't worth that trouble for me, as you can see from the end result :)
what an incredible and beautiful build !!
Cheers matey!
Oh wow! There's a baby fractic in production. Congratulations!
This looks amazing. I personally would lose the cheap LEDs though. I don't think they work.
Tranparent keyboard/keys would be the cherry on the cake.
These actually are clear - just waiting on the LED keyboard base...
Wow the lengths you go to 👏 Impressive stuff. Loving the content and the detail you show us 👍
This episode made me feel like I did at Christmas in the 80's. Such a wonderful feeling. Thank you for the feels.
13:23 Oh, the second I saw that piece I knew immediately that it was a Resin 3D Print. You can't get pieces that translucent with filament. There are very high quality resin printers you can buy for the home. Since they are resin prints, they should be fairly strong.
PC cases would be better printed in a bigger printer like a cr 10 max. The thin tiny details can be done in a smaller layer height as a different part to ensure it comes out better and most of the case can be combined (like the bottom) to make things fit better.
Very enjoyable viewing. I find your videos feel as though they are only 5 minutes long, then I check the duration and smile with pleasant surprise!
Even the iComp/PixelWizard cases from original injection molds have appearance defects which you can even see in the shots in your video. They do not bother me but they are there.
The transparent case is gorgeous, very glass like
You could have called the frist clear 3D print you did yourself, the bubble wrap 64 as the lines in the plastic do resemble bubble wrap.
That support structure is so cool! If you could permanently incorporate it into the case design would be great!
It really is an outstanding result. Great work!
Nice, I hope PCBWay give you a healthy discount now after all that promotion work. That said its a thing of beauty. Even though I have my own printer I have several prints that I just cant quite get right so may well send them to PCBWay to get the job done.
any news on kitt? :) please share all and everything!
Absolutely! Can't wait for more KITT content! :)
New video next weekend hopefully!
I think that case would look good with brass hardware.
Great and entertaining video as always! Love the passion you put into this..:)
Great video!
Thank you for sharing your adventures in retro computing!
Nice clear case. Though I myself couldn't justify that much on my budget, but still cool!
I'd love to do something like this for my old TRS 80 coco - with LED color lights inside to make it more coco
Really amazing resin print. Next step maybe same transparent keycaps and transparent keyboard base ?
Stunning. Simply stunning! I'm always sceptical of 3D printing but that looks simply amazing! Well done!
I bet Robert Tolone could make quick work of a breadbin mold. It's not his usual gig, but he is a wizard.
That is beautiful :)
That LED strip could be all hidden inside and it should run from the C64 power supply, from after the power switch inside the C64..
OK I may have to get PCBwaaaaay to 3D print a 1581 clear case to go with my C64C in the clear case. That looks awesome !!!!
🎶 Are you keeping you with the Commodore? 🎶
That looks spectacular! PCBWay seems to also advertise injection molding services. Did you consider that option, or would the price have gone tenfold?
He did mention that making tooling for injection molding would've been 30K.
Thought that was the price for the original recovered molds.
To make new molds would be about $30k
Some brands of filament are a beast when using supports while others have no issues at all.
Those crazy tree structures are meant for resin printers where the part hangs from the build plate. There are different structures for this type of printer that just support from underneath and not the sides.
I don't think they're exclusively for that as the option is provided in the Bambu software for this printer model. But yeah, definitely not ideal application here.
@@RetroRecipes they are not. those are tree supports. which have been in every slicer for awhile now (bambu's are a different algorithm for 'em but they've been available since cura introduced them).
supports are never ideal but the idea with tree supports is they use less filament than traditional supports while being easier to remove (hopefully).
Resin supports are different. These are actually what Prusa calls organic supports. They are designed for organic models. I use them all the time since prusa slicer added them in the 2.6 alpha earlier this year (now in RC2) They are easier to remove and use less filament. In a couple cases they collapsed and I had to switch to traditional supports, but on a multi-colored print I guess it makes sense as the bonds aren't always as strong especially with multiple brands involved. Resin supports are more like stick figures. Prusa has them for a very long time.
I am terribly sad to hear about your dog passing. The sickly cat I took in almost 2 years ago died on the 6th. It sucks.
Since we seem to have a shared love for Chartreuse, I look forward to seeing some wild color-blended cases. Cyan & Chartreuse go well together.
You've outdone yourself Peri, That is a gorgeous NewC64 and worth every penny for that view! Congrats to you and Lady Fractic on the new Baby Fractic!!
Having a clear case I would have painted the colour of my choice from the inside, just like how you would paint RC car bodies. Painted from the inside it will stay shiny & the paint would last for ages without easily being rubbed off.
That was amazing 😍, how awsome would it be if you could also 3D print a transparent case for a 1701/2 monitor to go with it?
That would be cool.
Oh boy that's an amazing idea. I'm wondering if the 3D models contain the interior fastening points or not...
curious how about other 8 bit machines? apple, trs80, TI, Sinclair (ok stretch for 8bit lol)
Basically it would work for any computer you can find an accurate 3D model for on the various 3D model sites 👍🕹
I've said before a few times that I'm not a 64 kinda guy, but that is absolutely beautiful :)
That red color of the 3D printed attempt was really snazzy!
Awesome, a thing of beauty. What a result!
Maybe you could approach the case sort of like a model airplane you may have built in your teens, using model cement, filler and paint.
So everything is in place to build a fully assembled, complete, brand new parts C64? Where can I buy one?
why aren’t you using the Bambu Lab support filament (support W) for clean supports? 🤷🏻♂️
Nice work, Not a fan of the transparent cases myself, but still nice.
I have only used PCB way to make circuit boards so far !
What size of 3-D printer do you need to make a Commodore 64 or even a 128 case even Commodore Amiga
Beautiful! It makes me want to find a transparent Game Boy Advance!
That is one pretty expensive C64, but does look awesome. I’d maybe leave out the string of LEDs but have the key caps illuminated.
looks amazing. I want your whole led lit room !!
And congrats on the bubbyfractic!
The sparkly effect material MAYBE the reason fothe failure of the 3D printed case The material creating the sparkly effect is only embedded into whatever the material it was you used, NOT bonded into it, So when you tried to remove that stubborn support tube what actually happened is a crack formed around a stress point and then you had a runaway failure.
Baby Fractic on the way? congratulations you two....