@@toniob4174 not if he dies what justice is there if he never stands trail or does jail time. I unfortunately I have to wait until someone dies to get my justice but I'm hoping this isn't the direction Hollyoaks is going to go with the storyline is to kill JJ off. But most likely JJ will either finally amit to what he did to Frankie and he'll live and serve jail time or he'll keep saying he did nothing wrong and die no justice
YES JJ IS AWFUL BUT FRANKIE IS NOW GETTING KARMA FOR ACCUSING INNOCENT MEN OF SEXUAL ASSAULT!! she's rude and hits woman and causes damage jj and frankie both bad
Spoiler alert he's going to die and that makes me so freaking mad because I wanted him to go to juvie or face some type of punishment or rehabilitation or something but not to die
Yeah we get it but can people please stop commenting the same thing? this is getting kinda tiring tbh guys hell I don't even think the storyline is trying to make you feel sorry for JJ its more about Darren and Frankie at least imo.
@@spencerreid2086 First of all, I never said anything about how this storyline is trying to make people feel sorry for JJ. All I said was that it's hard for me to feel sorry for him considering everything he's done. I don't know about everyone else but I just wrote my opinion.
How I see it is that they are not trying to redeem him and justify his manipulation and actions at all everyone still hates him for what he has done. They are just showing that abuse in families is not as simply as being clear cut of disowning them, going to court and sending them to prison which he rightfully deserves and I hope he gets. But the many dilemmas that some families in reality face when something happens to the abuser/family member in particular experiences like severe illness and how hard it is for them to make choices on how to deal with it as there still is a biological bond there and some kind of love even if small. I’m glad they are looking at different ways it affects the family overall, even though like everyone else it is Extremely frustrating having to wait for Frankie to get justice and for him to get what he deserves in terms of punishment and admit to what he has done !!.
Thank you for saying this, it's the same as I think. When the abuser is a family member, things are much more complex to resolve and for the victim to get justice. No one is trying to redeem or make us feel sorry for JJ, they're just showing the complexity and struggle that actually happens in real life.
@@salamandra4942 OA exactly! Ex act ly! I don’t get why People are saying “are we just supposed to feel sorry for him?” “Do we just have to forget this ever happened?” No! JJ “Devereuax 😂” needs to live and serve his time behind bars. His karma is to be beaten up and that’ll probably knock sense into him to make him realize his mistakes. What do you think????? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Why is frankie so annoyed hard to forgive Darren her dad but her dad is helping his son ill hospitalised at least Darren a better dad learning empathy sympathy always does his best
I knew he was going to need a bone marrow transplant. This is getting tough to watch. I know it is just a story, but I don't know how to feel about this.
I think having JJ get cancer is and need bone marrow from Frankie is actually a pretty good twist. Just sending him to jail is too much of an easy boring simple storyline.
If I were the girl, I would tell him if he wants my help he will tell the whole truth to Investigators and plead guilty and agree to mental counseling/psychiatric treatment along with his prison sentence.
They are sending us round in a spiral. JJ needs to stand trial for what he did. The illness is a spanner in the works! If he lives, he needs psychological treatment
I don't get all the episodes, so my apologies if this should be known. But where the h is Oscar? Is it known to the "adults" that JJ threatened him too.
That’s what’s upsetting me with this storyline, they making it seem as if it’s something small and not a big deal, this guy just needs to go court and admit what he’s done and get sent to prison.
I'm trying so hard not to feel sorry for him I just can't get past what he did to his own twin sister but if he does show some form of sympathy or remorse then I might be able to feel for him but not right now
@patrickchan2503 That's why this whole story line makes me feel so weird. The writers really know how to keep us locked in and so confused about a character. Normally, you either hate or love someone. If I feel sorry for the dude, then I remember how twisted he is. If I feel like " Yeah, serves you right JJ", I feel like a terrible person. Shout out to these writers.
@@charlizehendricks2113spot on. I like the storyline for sure but if I were the victim, I don't know if I could forgive JJ because of PTSD. But as the audience, I accept JJ.
Oh my OA I don’t understand how is did the last bone marrow biopsy not kick this into touch for JJ “Devereuax 😂” and I still don’t understand how he possibly could’ve gotten this leukemia in the first place as well I don’t know if it’s contagious or if anyone else in the Osborne Family ever had chemo before or anything? I’m not saying that what JJ did was wrong or anything and I’m not showing sympathy for him either I swear but I do think he should get the bone marrow from Frankie however I read that it said that Darren is a match and she even also will give him the bone marrow if he tells her why he assaulted her in the first place. my guess is that their Mother didn’t pay much attention to her and he didn’t have very many Friends and he wanted Frankie to be there for him but he then got all jealous and was afraid of losing her or something (just a guess). Also I’m glad to see Mercedes was there with JJ I really didn’t think she’d have screen time with him I do actually wish she would’ve given him some advice and try to have him realize to own up to what he’s done and she also would’ve mentioned her mistakes (not just her affairs but other things too) still it was nice to see two characters who are dying (even though they’re with different types of cancer still cancer’s cancer). I know what all of you are thinking “JJ deserves this”, “Frankie should let him die”, “JJ’s better off in the ground” blah blah blah but know this she won’t get justice if he dies it won’t do her any good I do hope Frankie will be his transplanter and JJ will face up to court and get locked up. 🥺
Idk if she will give him her marrow. I wouldn’t fault her if she did or didn’t. I don’t like how it’s now up to her but, I honestly think they should explore other options than the bone marrow. I hate more that Mercedes has to get her chemo drugs from the streets. Even if Grace gets them, it still worries me because how do we really know they are legit? There’s a shortage of it everywhere but these dealers might have it ? Like wtf ? Why do they have it in the first place especially since there’s a shortage? Also, how much and what if they aren’t the exact formula and something happens? I’m more nervous for her. I am glad though that they are allowing her to tell this story. You hardly hear about this type of cancer let alone have a soap do a story on it. Finally, something substantial for Jennifer. I got tired of the same old dumb mess they had her repeatedly doing.
Surely you can get treatment for cancer in prison so just send him down Frankie just justice and he can get treatment in prison while sending his time in there
No poor frankie!!!Maybe karma for frankie for all the evil things she done 😂❤ shows to girls never accuse innocent men (jack) of sexual assault and ruin lives JJ NEEDS PRISON AND FRANKIE NEEDS TO BE SEACTIONED AWAY FROM PUBLIC
I knew that was where they were going with this story. It’s like traumatizing her all over again. This and the stupid Abe story makes me want to stop watching
me not being happy how Darren is talking with JJ all fun and happy. could still be at least not talkative him being sick doesn’t make him any better of a person, he’s still the same one that raped and attacked his sister and blackmailed and etc. soooo
They ruined this storyline, they should’ve just sent him to prison. Him getting cancer was so unnecessary, frankie never got justice
He's shown remorse
JJ will still go to jail... regardless of If he feels sorry..too late for that,,, Frankie will get justice No Doubt
@@toniob4174 not if he dies what justice is there if he never stands trail or does jail time. I unfortunately I have to wait until someone dies to get my justice but I'm hoping this isn't the direction Hollyoaks is going to go with the storyline is to kill JJ off. But most likely JJ will either finally amit to what he did to Frankie and he'll live and serve jail time or he'll keep saying he did nothing wrong and die no justice
@@a.l.y.a.m.e.d486 OA my thoughts exactly Aly.
@AlexCody-g9k he hasint even admitted it so no he hasint show no remorse
He better not die so he can go to jail so that way Frankie can get justice. You put this on yourself JJ
@@shamygames1727 OA if he dies she won’t get justice.
YES JJ IS AWFUL BUT FRANKIE IS NOW GETTING KARMA FOR ACCUSING INNOCENT MEN OF SEXUAL ASSAULT!! she's rude and hits woman and causes damage jj and frankie both bad
@@jamieadams5826 OA oh you idiot. SHE’S A VICTIM IN THIS NOW! LET GO OF THE ADAMS!!!!! 😠😠😠😠😠😡😡😡😡😡🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
Spoiler alert he's going to die and that makes me so freaking mad because I wanted him to go to juvie or face some type of punishment or rehabilitation or something but not to die
Really hard to feel sorry for JJ considering everything he's done.
Completely agree
@@magicinthemundane9527 OA I know it’s hard and no one’s asking anyone to feel sorry for JJ “Devereuax 😂” but if he dies Frankie will not get justice.
@@magicinthemundane9527 Worst part is he still hasn't admitted to what he did or that it was wrong. In his mind it was completely normal.
Yeah we get it but can people please stop commenting the same thing? this is getting kinda tiring tbh guys hell I don't even think the storyline is trying to make you feel sorry for JJ its more about Darren and Frankie at least imo.
@@spencerreid2086 First of all, I never said anything about how this storyline is trying to make people feel sorry for JJ. All I said was that it's hard for me to feel sorry for him considering everything he's done. I don't know about everyone else but I just wrote my opinion.
no one deserves cancer, just like no one deserves abuse of any kind! the direction this storyline has gone is tough to watch
When will jj stand trial for raping frankie irrespective of his illness
It would be pushed back until he’s in remission. He wouldn’t be considered in fit health enough to appear in court.
I think Frankie will be an exact match - and she won't donate...😮
I like that Frankie smiles more. She was so unhappy living with her brother JJ. That’s because no one knew about the physical and sexual abuse.
I bet you that the mother is not going to match. Darren is not going to match. Nancy won’t match but Frankie will since she’s his twin
How I see it is that they are not trying to redeem him and justify his manipulation and actions at all everyone still hates him for what he has done. They are just showing that abuse in families is not as simply as being clear cut of disowning them, going to court and sending them to prison which he rightfully deserves and I hope he gets. But the many dilemmas that some families in reality face when something happens to the abuser/family member in particular experiences like severe illness and how hard it is for them to make choices on how to deal with it as there still is a biological bond there and some kind of love even if small. I’m glad they are looking at different ways it affects the family overall, even though like everyone else it is Extremely frustrating having to wait for Frankie to get justice and for him to get what he deserves in terms of punishment and admit to what he has done !!.
@@lballard21 OA that’s my exact point.
Thank you for saying this, it's the same as I think. When the abuser is a family member, things are much more complex to resolve and for the victim to get justice. No one is trying to redeem or make us feel sorry for JJ, they're just showing the complexity and struggle that actually happens in real life.
@@salamandra4942 OA exactly! Ex act ly! I don’t get why People are saying “are we just supposed to feel sorry for him?” “Do we just have to forget this ever happened?” No! JJ “Devereuax 😂” needs to live and serve his time behind bars. His karma is to be beaten up and that’ll probably knock sense into him to make him realize his mistakes. What do you think????? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Absolutely I agree 100%
I think what you mean is that the writers are trying to normalise incestuous sexual abuse and it seems to be working with you
Frankie had every right to her feelings toward her brother, JJ
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Why can't hollyoaks follow through storylines poor Frankie
Poor jack poor mandy frankie isn't innocent
@@jamieadams5826 poor Mandy? Meaning?, Frankie ismt innocent ? Meaning??
Who's Mandy you referring to
@@phoebs50 frankie hit a woman she also accused a innocent man of sexual assault jack Osborne do you remember that?
@@phoebs50 her step.
Mum who she hit
Why is frankie so annoyed hard to forgive Darren her dad but her dad is helping his son ill hospitalised at least Darren a better dad learning empathy sympathy always does his best
Look you can't forget what JJ did to Frankie all those years I know he's got leukemia but he will get better
Shame
If you were frankie would you help JJ ?
It's a solid no from me
Nebbynetwork2089 WD you just answered your own question!😅
Yes
Absolutely not.
No way, I’d tell him to rot in hell.
No matter How Much damage has been done doing the right thing is important
I knew he was going to need a bone marrow transplant. This is getting tough to watch. I know it is just a story, but I don't know how to feel about this.
OA I understand that but if he dies Frankie won’t get justice.
Irredeemable, no matter how ill he is
I think having JJ get cancer is and need bone marrow from Frankie is actually a pretty good twist. Just sending him to jail is too much of an easy boring simple storyline.
If I were the girl, I would tell him if he wants my help he will tell the whole truth to Investigators and plead guilty and agree to mental counseling/psychiatric treatment along with his prison sentence.
That's karma for hurting Frankie
OA the only karma he needs is prison time.
Frankie got karma for accusing innocent men of sexual assault!!!
@@jamieadams5826 Shut up Adams and move on from the past. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
@@ChelseyLinden doesn't matter if past she still nearly ruined his life
@@jamieadams5826 OA move on!!!!!
They are sending us round in a spiral. JJ needs to stand trial for what he did. The illness is a spanner in the works! If he lives, he needs psychological treatment
JJ IS LOVELY
frankie started acting like jj with her friends
I don't get all the episodes, so my apologies if this should be known. But where the h is Oscar? Is it known to the "adults" that JJ threatened him too.
JJ deserves to rot in prison.
👍🏻
So does frankie
@@jamieadams5826 No, she doesn’t
@@jjs1300000 she accused a innocent man of sexual assault she's hit a woman and nearly killed a baby
@@jamieadams5826 She was traumatised
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Jennylazo8960 WD not his real name!😐
Ignore Kris Powell comments
Gross . Don’t forget what he has done it’s nothing small that can be swept under rug
That’s what’s upsetting me with this storyline, they making it seem as if it’s something small and not a big deal, this guy just needs to go court and admit what he’s done and get sent to prison.
Ryan Mulvey is such a good actor, that he actually makes you feel sorry for the JJ character even knowing what he had done to his sister.
I'm trying so hard not to feel sorry for him I just can't get past what he did to his own twin sister but if he does show some form of sympathy or remorse then I might be able to feel for him but not right now
I feel weird about this whole story line...
It's deep. I like it. Twists and turns. I don't know if the writers are twisted or geniuses
@patrickchan2503 That's why this whole story line makes me feel so weird. The writers really know how to keep us locked in and so confused about a character. Normally, you either hate or love someone. If I feel sorry for the dude, then I remember how twisted he is. If I feel like " Yeah, serves you right JJ", I feel like a terrible person. Shout out to these writers.
@@charlizehendricks2113spot on. I like the storyline for sure but if I were the victim, I don't know if I could forgive JJ because of PTSD. But as the audience, I accept JJ.
Oh my OA I don’t understand how is did the last bone marrow biopsy not kick this into touch for JJ “Devereuax 😂” and I still don’t understand how he possibly could’ve gotten this leukemia in the first place as well I don’t know if it’s contagious or if anyone else in the Osborne Family ever had chemo before or anything? I’m not saying that what JJ did was wrong or anything and I’m not showing sympathy for him either I swear but I do think he should get the bone marrow from Frankie however I read that it said that Darren is a match and she even also will give him the bone marrow if he tells her why he assaulted her in the first place. my guess is that their Mother didn’t pay much attention to her and he didn’t have very many Friends and he wanted Frankie to be there for him but he then got all jealous and was afraid of losing her or something (just a guess). Also I’m glad to see Mercedes was there with JJ I really didn’t think she’d have screen time with him I do actually wish she would’ve given him some advice and try to have him realize to own up to what he’s done and she also would’ve mentioned her mistakes (not just her affairs but other things too) still it was nice to see two characters who are dying (even though they’re with different types of cancer still cancer’s cancer). I know what all of you are thinking “JJ deserves this”, “Frankie should let him die”, “JJ’s better off in the ground” blah blah blah but know this she won’t get justice if he dies it won’t do her any good I do hope Frankie will be his transplanter and JJ will face up to court and get locked up. 🥺
Yes let frankie get the transport so he can get better and sort thr trail out
This show is not going to last :(
Is it real that twin sis is the best match for twin bro?
She gonna tell him see ya wouldnt want to be ya
OA I doubt that. 😒😒😒😒😒
Idk if she will give him her marrow. I wouldn’t fault her if she did or didn’t. I don’t like how it’s now up to her but, I honestly think they should explore other options than the bone marrow. I hate more that Mercedes has to get her chemo drugs from the streets. Even if Grace gets them, it still worries me because how do we really know they are legit? There’s a shortage of it everywhere but these dealers might have it ? Like wtf ? Why do they have it in the first place especially since there’s a shortage? Also, how much and what if they aren’t the exact formula and something happens? I’m more nervous for her. I am glad though that they are allowing her to tell this story. You hardly hear about this type of cancer let alone have a soap do a story on it. Finally, something substantial for Jennifer. I got tired of the same old dumb mess they had her repeatedly doing.
He got away with it
I totally agree with you
JJ cop out
Surely you can get treatment for cancer in prison so just send him down Frankie just justice and he can get treatment in prison while sending his time in there
hes a freak for not liking apple juice never mind what he did to frankie💀
No poor frankie!!!Maybe karma for frankie for all the evil things she done 😂❤ shows to girls never accuse innocent men (jack) of sexual assault and ruin lives JJ NEEDS PRISON AND FRANKIE NEEDS TO BE SEACTIONED AWAY FROM PUBLIC
Everything he has done but he doesn’t Derseve it
I knew that was where they were going with this story. It’s like traumatizing her all over again. This and the stupid Abe story makes me want to stop watching
me not being happy how Darren is talking with JJ all fun and happy. could still be at least not talkative him being sick doesn’t make him any better of a person, he’s still the same one that raped and attacked his sister and blackmailed and etc. soooo
JJ leacing is just toying with us because they will just look for him. I am so sick and tired of JJ why can't he just be gone for good.
Well that escalated quickly
Not happy with Deren now that he's tossed Frankie aside like nothing ever happened
this story line is horrible, I am so sick of JJ period
4:55 WD he looks worried!#Hollyoaks #All4 😔
😢😢😢
YAWN 🥱
Poor JJ😢
Yawn 🥱
Jj and frankie both evil
Jj gorgeous 😍
Lol
They have two many cancer storylines
Good riddance
What about what frankie did