I think what's solidified Darren's belief of Frankie is that when she broke down and was accusing Darren of not believing her, she said a lot of stuff that JJ repeated to Darren, inadvertently revealing the words JJ used to groom her. Also the look on JJ's face when he was trying to come up with a response. He looked right terrified.
THATS TRUE NANCY HAS GOT THE RIGHTS TO ADOPT FRANKIE BECAUSE FRANKIE NEEDS NANCY TO BE HER REAL MOTHER NOT LIKE her own mum who is a lowlife woman who says bad things about her own daughter like that and gets away with it
@@ChelseyLinden If they can prove that Suzanne took Frankie's phone in order to hide evidence, her parental rights could be stripped on the basis of neglect.
Shame on Suzanne for not believing her own daughter! Darren's right. A lot of people don't come forward and tell people out of fear that they won't be believed. At least Darren's on her side and believes her. What Suzanne is doing is absolutely unforgivable.
She had a really difficult choice, though. It wasn't believe her daughter and accuse a friend; it was believe her daughter and accuse her son. I can understand not wanting to believe it. Not that it excuses it.
Everyone definitely needs a dad like that. I had no one. My dad said I had an overactive imagination. Thank God my mom finally listened but it was too late by then. I'm still a f#$%ed up train wreck.
So Frankie told her mum first when she was 9 and back then she didn't believe her. She still doesn't and that just proove that she is the worst mum ever
@@Chucky2475her mum knew about it a long time ago but didn't care she's worried about JJ because he's a super star and all she cares about JJ making money
This was difficult to watch. I was abused by my brother (6 years older) for years. I tried to tell my mother when I was 5, although I was too young to understand how bad it was. My brother wasn't violent, he used coercion and manipulation, very effective at that age. My mother just told me to stop going into his room. Of course, it didn't matter. But for the rest of my childhood, I thought if I had just stayed out of my brother's room, it wouldn't have happened. But it happened in many places. It continued for years, until a school counselor noticed red flags. I was 10 by then, and legally the school had to report it to the police. It was handled badly, but that's another subject. This video pierced my heart for 2 reasons. First, it reminded me of my dad coming to the school. I wasn't present when they told him, but I remember him pulling me aside, squatting down to my eye level and asking me why I never came to him. It honestly never occurred to me. He wasn't an affectionate father and I had never seen him cry in my life. And yet, the video brought my father's words back to me. "I'm your father. It's my job to protect you and I failed." Second, I didn't see my dad confront my brother. But my mom told me, in detail. The actor here did a masterful job showing the clash of emotions when he confronts JJ. A parent who loves both children - horrified, enraged and devastated. That entire, "how could you do that to your sister?!" scene gave me an eerie visual of my mom's description. My mom didn't accuse me of lying, but she didn't want to deal with it either. I was 18 before a therapist made me realize, a 5 year old entering a room isn't consent for abuse and staying out doesn't stop it. Sounds ridiculous, but as a child, I never questioned it. Full disclosure, I only found a few clips on TH-cam, I don't know this show's back story.
@@amywonderland9297 Nancy’s smart enough to put pieces together. Nancy saw JJ sneak into Frankie’s room. Why Frankie drugged Morgan so Nancy would stay with Frankie overnight & Why JJ was so quick to point the finger at her when Frankie fell down the steps.
The moment the mother said, "And YOU", if I were the father I would have immediately stood in her way and yell in her face to not say a word towards that girl. To get out and that if she had more to say, she could say it through a lawyer. I would absolutely yell over her until she got the hell out. I wouldn't dare to let her look that poor girl in the eyes and threaten her further.
@Addwater4444 Legalities is a very, very strange life challenge. He is not a coward. I've seen the other side of becoming a ballistic missile with no return. Be careful what you expect.
I'm not sure what's worse: Suzanne's disbelief in Frankie or her defense of JJ. It will be a harsh awakening when the truth emerges, and seeing JJ's downfall will be immensely satisfying.
"Hes gonna make us rich" that....that right there is the exact reason she is willing to ignore it. She's putting a literal one in a million shot at a career at pro sports for her son over her daughters will to live and her comfort. Shes a vile character that is a sad reality.
This episode was crazy good because I’ve never seen Darren look so disgusted and mad in his life. They did such great acting and I was so annoyed when Frankie’s mum didn’t believe her after all of this. I’m glad Darren did believe her though and I’m sure he will tell Nancy.
@@laurabartley7560She doesn't, in the new episode it turns out Suzanne knew all along about jj abusing Frankie since 9 and actually steals Frankie's phone in order to hide all the evidence and save JJ
Suzanne's been a rubbish mum.I feel bad Frankie had to suffer for so long.Happy Darren believes and supports Frankie.Oscar needs to tell Darren and Nancy about the video and that JJ bullied and threaten him.
I KNOW WHO WILL SORT JJ AND SUZANNE IT WILL BE DARREN OSBORNE TEAMS UP WITH JACK OSBORNE AND Charles CHARLIE OSBORNE will expose them to the police station
This is one of the best abuse storylines soaps have ever done. The writing and acting has been incredibly from everyone involved. However unfortunately hollyoaks has over shadowed this storyline all the gangsta blue drama and Patrick’s evil twin
Wonderful ep. Everything was very well written and acted. Ashley Taylor Dawson was on fire. What an actor! Over the years we've seen through his upbringing of Charlie and Oscar what a great dad Darren is, and this ep once again reaffirmed what a wonderful father he is. Very lovely the way he dealt with Frankie. He didn't doubt her; he confronted JJ and assured her that he'd protect her.
I agree I so love Ashley I sometimes wish we could see him sing on screen again along with Dillon, Ethan, Nana and even Liberty. This was an amazing performance.
Darren did the right thing by comforting JJ after he heard about what JJ did to Frankie he is the one parent that did not let JJ get away with what he did to his daughter
Such a tough topic to act through all these months. Major props to all the actors involved. It could not be easy doing this important but hard hitting storyline. But you've all done so brilliantly.
oh I have cried at this. I am so glad Darren believes Frankie. It's such a shame Suzanne doesn't. JJ knows he's been caught out now. On a separate note, absolutely brilliant performance from them all and especially the young girl who plays Frankie.
Nah. Wrong. I’m a mother myself and if my daughter told me that she was being abused by anyone for that matter I would believe her in an instant, I would never doubt my child not ever
Exactly. That's the real mother's, true mother's attitude. But, unfortunately, very often there are mothers who don't give up on their favorite child - even if it costs the other child the child's life and future. My mother betrayed me cruelly the same way in the same situation when I cried for help, when I was 12. And she forbade me to tell anyone, especially my father, otherways 'she might die, and I would be guilty of that'.. And my, now 68 years old brother, who still feels no shame, no guilt, claimes: "My mothe adored me." She ruined my life, everything, as if she killed me that moment. And she knew the truth, hiding it and calling me "my crazy daughter" for decades. She never loved me, she just felt sorry for herself and wanted to remain 'comfortable' in face of a disaster.
I wouldn't blindly believe anybody, not even my kids! I'd always inquire first! All those who might have seen or heard something! Never believe blindly!
Frankie never said that word JJ did and with Darren’s reaction you could tell he knows there’s more stuff that’s happened that Frankie hasn’t told anyone, also I hope if the whole village find out they help support Frankie and chase Suzanne and JJ out as there’s plenty of people in that village who’d be a better mother/sister/brother/uncle/aunt/grandparents to Frankie. I also hope Darren thanks Lucas for being there for Frankie and trying to help her after what JJ did to her that night in the park
At 9:40 The mom reveals her true intentions on how she feels about JJ versus her daughter. She sees JJ as a way to get rich and make money and have more social status. Versus Frankie who's always been a "mess up" this is why she's always going to take JJ's side. That and she's just a bad mom
When she finds out the truth who her son really is he’s nothing but a disappointment and start blaming herself knowing that she failed for not disciplining her son
She doesn't, in the new episode it turns out Suzanne knew all along about jj abusing Frankie since 9 and actually steals Frankie's phone in order to hide all the evidence and save JJ
@keeperofthe7keys1987 she tried to tell her when she was nine! She knows full well it’s true she just doesn’t want people to know what she’s let happen right under her nose. And people need to understand the Jack situation isn’t as black and white as her just simply lying. Think about how Jj starts his creepy actions. “Let’s play school disco” then he’s starts slow dancing with her and rubbing her. In her moment with Jack she had a genuine trauma response to being touched while dancing. To Frankie she wasn’t lying because of what usually comes next. Of course we the audience know Jack would never but a young girl who’s been going through what she has for years? Yeah not as simple as people make out
The Dad was so hurt that he was crying but the mother was thinking about the son making them rich. That would go away if they report him to the authorities.
Suzanne’s been annoying me for awhile, but this is just too much. If she does believe Frankie later on & sees JJ’s true colors, I hope Frankie DOESNT FORGIVE HER MOM. Suzanne doesn’t deserve any for neglecting Frankie, playing favorites with JJ and all those horrible things she called her own daughter. Frankie’s better off without Suzanne as a mom.
In the latest episode Suzanne ends up not caring about frankie at all but only cares about jj, in the new episode it turns out Suzanne knew all along about jj seuxally abusing Frankie since she 9 and Suzanne actually steals Frankie's phone in order to hide all the evidence and save jj
@@hsz_xk suzanne knows and can't admit it she has probably frankie told her before and when she assumed it was her bf and kicked him out and it didn't stop why didn't she put two and two together she's sick
Make sense she does not trust her... Look at what she said... "Our son will make us rich beyond our wildest dreams"... Only interested in the money the son will make.
How can a mother not believe her own daughter?! 🙄 It's like we are living back in the 60s and 70s when people were too scared to come forward. Like Darren says out loud. "This is why people don't come forward." That quote alone is heartbreaking.
It does happen in real life too. Why come forward when your family don't believe you. Just to have the step mother say oh she makes it up for attention. So after that no matter what happens you just stay quiet because what's the point in saying anything. I was raped at 5 and 6 yrs old by 2 different men. Was sexually assaulted by my step brother for years until I ran away. Was told by my doctor that I would never be able to have children because of all scar tissue and trauma my body suffered as child. To this day my father still thinks I made it up and we definitely don't get along. Just so people know my mother is dead and I'm an only child.
Having Frankie finally speak up and Darren actually believing her makes me so happy, seeing Darren scream at JJ, but denying it is so annoying. Her mum not believing her ONCE again made me mad, hopefully they can get The mum to believe Frankie and do something about JJ
Plot twist: Either Hannah or even Neville (if he returned) will back Frankie up and say that they witnessed something between Frankie and JJ. I really hope Hannah backs her sister up.
hollyoaks have really done their research, suzanne is in denial, which is usually a common response with a Taboo like this, she doesn't want to believe it but she know's deep down it's the truth, Darren is an incredible Father 💯 I hope JJ gets the consequences for his evil s*ck actions
It's great that Darren believes Frankie but its a bummer that Suzanne doesn't however sooner or later the truth is coming to light and when it does JJ's gonna have a lot to answer for.
In the latest episode Suzanne ends up not caring about frankie at all but only cares about jj, in the new episode it turns out Suzanne knew all along about jj seuxally abusing Frankie since she 9 and Suzanne actually steals Frankie's phone in order to hide all the evidence and save jj
What sort of mother doesn't believe her own daughter? the Fact that she was quick to Believe JJ and dismiss Frankie despite the sincerity in her face shows what a terrible mother she really is she did not even sit down and listen to anything Frankie had to say she just walked out on her even if she does not believe Frankie and Darren she should ask Oscar as he also knows the truth about what Frankie's been through she will definitely regret walking out on her once the truth is finally revealed and I would not blame Frankie if she did not want anything to do with her mother after this.
Frankie told her mum that JJ touched her when she was nine but she just assumed it was her boyfriend. She told her again and was still in denial because she wants to protect JJ.
Sadly, this happens in a lot of cases. Especially when the perpetrator is someone close like a friend, relative, or romantic partner. Parents don't want to believe that their judgement is so flawed that they couldn't recognise a predator 😢
AMAZING performance. i stopped watching hollyoaks consistently but i’ve kept up with this storyline on here.. really glad that frankie finally said something & darren believed her STRAIGHT AWAY. nancy is def gonna do the same, this is so emotional. 💔
Darren is the last person to not believe Frankie. His best friend, Luke, was raped back when they were teenagers and kept it a secret. Darren is possibly the best advocate for Frankie.
I see why Suzanne isn’t believing it because it’s absolutely disgusting and horrible to think about. To even think this happens irl to is equally as horrible Frankie did the right thing and so did Darren ❤
Interesting, the way the writers are trying to portray two sides. Some believe the victims and others don't. As soon as Frankie told Darren, he started to see the truth. But Suzanne went the other way.
I get why her mum is not believing it considering her behavior and how she accused her grandad, however surely Darren wholeheartedly believing Frankie should be a sign that he knows what happened, her mum shouldnt have jumped to conclusions and asked more questions, ask exactly what was said, why it's believed, when it happened etc. Darren should have told her mum what he told JJ, how it all makes sense cause the lashing out, self harm etc. Her mum is awful.
The rest of the family is going to need therapy. And I'm hoping they drop the investigation on Nancy. Let alone I hope Frankie doesn't get in trouble for lying about Nancy
@@ChelseyLinden Just because it's deleted doesn't mean it's completely gone. There are ways to get deleted videos back if it's stored in a backup file or cloud
So relieved to see Darren and Frankie together. Nancy too will be able to return if Darren explains everything to the police. Wish they all stay together again as a happy family without JJ and Suzanne. But I think JJ and Suzanne should be taken before the law.
We know someone,didn't believe her daughter,let her go,accused her of lying,lost her, can't be bothered with the one she has left at home ,shames the word Mother.
For a mother not to believe is sick. I did'nt realize they were twins. I only watch this story line on here. It is good, but VERY disturbing. Raping your own twin sister !
I've watched Hollyoaks since the beginning and am the first to admit there is a LOT wrong with it (that hopefully will be sorted by the time jump) but this storyline has been perfection from the start. The acting has been incredible from the two youngsters and although we've seen Ashley being brilliant many times before he's jusy reached another level. I'm sure when Nancy finds out Jessica will also be amazing. I'm a survivor of sexual abuse and Hollyoaks have absolutely done Frankies story justice.
The actress who plays frankie is absolutely brilliant suzanne disgusts me for all the things she said about nancy stems straight from jealousy because she knows shes a better mother x
Suzanne has always been oblivious and in denial when any of her children were in trouble, mainly Hannah and Frankie. Over 16 years ago, Hannah did lie about Gilly (Rhys' best mate) hurting her only to protect herself from Suzanne, Rhys, and brother Josh from finding out about her eating disorder. So that is probably why she is denying JJ's abusing Frankie now. I am glad that Frankie has moved to Hollyoaks and now lives with Darren. And maybe now Nancy can come home and adopt her.
As much as I despise Suzanne, I can't entirely blame her for not wanting to believe what her own son was capable of. Also, there was this theory on reddit I found that could explain why Suzanne doesn't believe Frankie, and the event dates back to 2007 when her daughter Hannah lied about being SA by Gilly so she could hide her anorexia. Gilly noticed Hannah not eating, and she threatened him to keep his mouth shut. I hate Suzanne with a passion, but that theory could make sense for the character. (Well that, and seeing JJ as the golden child considering she could profit off his football talent.)
EVERY ACTOR ON THE SCREEN RIGHT HERE DEVOURED! INCREDIBLE PERFORMANCES 👏🏻 JJ is STILL LYING to Darren !? 😱😱 We need Oscar to show Darren the video. Then hopefully we can finally send JJ down 😭🤞🏻
In the latest episode Suzanne ends up not caring about frankie at all but only cares about jj, in the new episode it turns out Suzanne knew all along about jj seuxally abusing Frankie since she 9 and Suzanne actually steals Frankie's phone in order to hide all the evidence and save jj
I wonder if this will cause a recurrance of Darren's depression down the road. That's a lot of trauma happening to his children that he cannot protect them from.
@kieramcgregor I've never laid eyes on this show til these clips popped up on my homepage. So I know nothing about any of it, incl if any of this family are half or step members. It sounds like you wanted legal justice rather than karma. Is that right?
A mothers betrayal is one of the worst things anyone can feel.
Yes
OA you got that right. Suzanne should leave and let Frankie be happy.
She went to be rich that much!!
Agree a zillion times.
So she's lied about you where you shouldn't touch up f****** novel
Is crosses with driving on try now racist Hindi
I think what's solidified Darren's belief of Frankie is that when she broke down and was accusing Darren of not believing her, she said a lot of stuff that JJ repeated to Darren, inadvertently revealing the words JJ used to groom her. Also the look on JJ's face when he was trying to come up with a response. He looked right terrified.
OA and he had every right to be terrified he’s gonna need to get what’s coming to him sooner than later.
J.J. was sweating and looked panicked when Darren talked to him in the car. You could tell Darren was believing Frankie especially at the house.
@@a.l.y.a.m.e.d486 OA definitely. 😒😒😒😒😒
@@a.l.y.a.m.e.d486 And it's a good thing he believes Frankie. Suzanne and JJ will get what's coming to them
Their acting in these scenes have been brilliant,Frankie did the right thing telling her dad
Nancy needs to adopt Frankie, as she's 10x the mother to her than her own mum ever has been
OA indeed. But do you think that Suzanne will allow that? I doubt it.
THATS TRUE NANCY HAS GOT THE RIGHTS TO ADOPT FRANKIE BECAUSE FRANKIE NEEDS NANCY TO BE HER REAL MOTHER NOT LIKE her own mum who is a lowlife woman who says bad things about her own daughter like that and gets away with it
@ChelseyLinden suzanne cares about jj....not frankie . Nancy treat frankie like her daughter
@@ChelseyLinden If they can prove that Suzanne took Frankie's phone in order to hide evidence, her parental rights could be stripped on the basis of neglect.
@@jadehurdle9389 OA fair point.
Shame on Suzanne for not believing her own daughter!
Darren's right. A lot of people don't come forward and tell people out of fear that they won't be believed. At least Darren's on her side and believes her. What Suzanne is doing is absolutely unforgivable.
if she cant belive her own daughter I think suzanne shoudm leave w jj for everyone's benefit
Suzanne! I always forget her name. I always confuse her with Cindy, but a Poundland version
She had a really difficult choice, though. It wasn't believe her daughter and accuse a friend; it was believe her daughter and accuse her son. I can understand not wanting to believe it. Not that it excuses it.
I am so proud! Darren did everything right! He was perfect, he is the Dad that Frankie and people in her situation desperately, desperately need
Everyone definitely needs a dad like that. I had no one. My dad said I had an overactive imagination. Thank God my mom finally listened but it was too late by then. I'm still a f#$%ed up train wreck.
So Frankie told her mum first when she was 9 and back then she didn't believe her. She still doesn't and that just proove that she is the worst mum ever
TikTok kid didn’t even watch the show she never said it was him when she was nine how was the mom supposed to know
@@Chucky2475her mum knew about it a long time ago but didn't care she's worried about JJ because he's a super star and all she cares about JJ making money
@@friendship9904 did u even read there comment and mine 🤦🏼♀️
@@Chucky2475 I did but her mum through it was her boyfriend not her son she trying to cover up her son the whole time
@@friendship9904 u clearly didn’t watch the show
This was difficult to watch. I was abused by my brother (6 years older) for years. I tried to tell my mother when I was 5, although I was too young to understand how bad it was. My brother wasn't violent, he used coercion and manipulation, very effective at that age. My mother just told me to stop going into his room. Of course, it didn't matter. But for the rest of my childhood, I thought if I had just stayed out of my brother's room, it wouldn't have happened. But it happened in many places. It continued for years, until a school counselor noticed red flags. I was 10 by then, and legally the school had to report it to the police. It was handled badly, but that's another subject.
This video pierced my heart for 2 reasons. First, it reminded me of my dad coming to the school. I wasn't present when they told him, but I remember him pulling me aside, squatting down to my eye level and asking me why I never came to him. It honestly never occurred to me. He wasn't an affectionate father and I had never seen him cry in my life. And yet, the video brought my father's words back to me. "I'm your father. It's my job to protect you and I failed."
Second, I didn't see my dad confront my brother. But my mom told me, in detail. The actor here did a masterful job showing the clash of emotions when he confronts JJ. A parent who loves both children - horrified, enraged and devastated. That entire, "how could you do that to your sister?!" scene gave me an eerie visual of my mom's description.
My mom didn't accuse me of lying, but she didn't want to deal with it either. I was 18 before a therapist made me realize, a 5 year old entering a room isn't consent for abuse and staying out doesn't stop it. Sounds ridiculous, but as a child, I never questioned it.
Full disclosure, I only found a few clips on TH-cam, I don't know this show's back story.
omg that's so upsetting. I hope you're okay and I'm glad it was stopped before it was too late :(
You know Nancy will absolutely believe Frankie.
@@amywonderland9297 Nancy’s smart enough to put pieces together. Nancy saw JJ sneak into Frankie’s room. Why Frankie drugged Morgan so Nancy would stay with Frankie overnight & Why JJ was so quick to point the finger at her when Frankie fell down the steps.
OA I’m sure she will considering she’s been through this before with her Ex-Husband (name I can’t remember) and Finn.
Yeah
Yes she will
100%. I wish Hannah was still on the canvas. She would help her little sister. I reckon Cleo would help her too.
The moment the mother said, "And YOU", if I were the father I would have immediately stood in her way and yell in her face to not say a word towards that girl. To get out and that if she had more to say, she could say it through a lawyer. I would absolutely yell over her until she got the hell out. I wouldn't dare to let her look that poor girl in the eyes and threaten her further.
He was too weak 😠
@Addwater4444 Legalities is a very, very strange life challenge. He is not a coward. I've seen the other side of becoming a ballistic missile with no return. Be careful what you expect.
@@PeteMonzingo-ff8ls Well, she's obviously the most uncompromising of the 2, he needs to learn to stand up to her
I'm not sure what's worse: Suzanne's disbelief in Frankie or her defense of JJ. It will be a harsh awakening when the truth emerges, and seeing JJ's downfall will be immensely satisfying.
I hope Darren continues to belive Frankie about this and never lets anyone make him doubt her 😢
"Hes gonna make us rich" that....that right there is the exact reason she is willing to ignore it. She's putting a literal one in a million shot at a career at pro sports for her son over her daughters will to live and her comfort. Shes a vile character that is a sad reality.
This episode was crazy good because I’ve never seen Darren look so disgusted and mad in his life. They did such great acting and I was so annoyed when Frankie’s mum didn’t believe her after all of this. I’m glad Darren did believe her though and I’m sure he will tell Nancy.
She did amazing telling her dad
I am so proud of her reaching out to her family because it is the right time to tell them the whole truth 💗
@@laurabartley7560She doesn't, in the new episode it turns out Suzanne knew all along about jj abusing Frankie since 9 and actually steals Frankie's phone in order to hide all the evidence and save JJ
@@hsz_xkWHAT !?!? Oh hell no she needs to be taken out wtf
Can't imagine hearing that as a parent, but I hope Suzanne realises the truth and finally will be there for Frankie
That's so Nice to hear what
She’s an awful mum she threw away her phone with the evidence
Sadly it happens x
Oh lawd plz watch the latest episode 🙆🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️ Suzanne really makes me wanna punch my tv
@@v.a2232what happens after that ?!? Omg
Suzanne's been a rubbish mum.I feel bad Frankie had to suffer for so long.Happy Darren believes and supports Frankie.Oscar needs to tell Darren and Nancy about the video and that JJ bullied and threaten him.
I KNOW WHO WILL SORT JJ AND SUZANNE IT WILL BE DARREN OSBORNE TEAMS UP WITH JACK OSBORNE AND Charles CHARLIE OSBORNE will expose them to the police station
This is a powerful episode. Every now and then, Hollyoaks really hits key issues.
OA ooh definitely. It’s so powerful it makes me emotional. 🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹
@@ChelseyLinden it's a twist that her mum disbelieves her.
@@CJ-xl3dhunfortunately it happens just this way all to often.
@@CJ-xl3dh OA definitely.
This is one of the best abuse storylines soaps have ever done. The writing and acting has been incredibly from everyone involved. However unfortunately hollyoaks has over shadowed this storyline all the gangsta blue drama and Patrick’s evil twin
Wonderful ep. Everything was very well written and acted.
Ashley Taylor Dawson was on fire. What an actor!
Over the years we've seen through his upbringing of Charlie and Oscar what a great dad Darren is, and this ep once again reaffirmed what a wonderful father he is. Very lovely the way he dealt with Frankie. He didn't doubt her; he confronted JJ and assured her that he'd protect her.
I agree I so love Ashley I sometimes wish we could see him sing on screen again along with Dillon, Ethan, Nana and even Liberty. This was an amazing performance.
@@ChelseyLindenWD you should be at work
he really is a very gifted actor.
@@beccahday OA very gifted.
Darren did the right thing by comforting JJ after he heard about what JJ did to Frankie he is the one parent that did not let JJ get away with what he did to his daughter
Such a tough topic to act through all these months. Major props to all the actors involved. It could not be easy doing this important but hard hitting storyline. But you've all done so brilliantly.
6:39 that’s when he knew Frankie wasn’t lying.
oh I have cried at this. I am so glad Darren believes Frankie. It's such a shame Suzanne doesn't. JJ knows he's been caught out now. On a separate note, absolutely brilliant performance from them all and especially the young girl who plays Frankie.
Nah. Wrong. I’m a mother myself and if my daughter told me that she was being abused by anyone for that matter I would believe her in an instant, I would never doubt my child not ever
it has been established early on JJ is the favorite and she barely tolerates Franky
Exactly. That's the real mother's, true mother's attitude. But, unfortunately, very often there are mothers who don't give up on their favorite child - even if it costs the other child the child's life and future. My mother betrayed me cruelly the same way in the same situation when I cried for help, when I was 12. And she forbade me to tell anyone, especially my father, otherways 'she might die, and I would be guilty of that'.. And my, now 68 years old brother, who still feels no shame, no guilt, claimes: "My mothe adored me." She ruined my life, everything, as if she killed me that moment. And she knew the truth, hiding it and calling me "my crazy daughter" for decades. She never loved me, she just felt sorry for herself and wanted to remain 'comfortable' in face of a disaster.
I wouldn't blindly believe anybody, not even my kids! I'd always inquire first! All those who might have seen or heard something! Never believe blindly!
Frankie never said that word JJ did and with Darren’s reaction you could tell he knows there’s more stuff that’s happened that Frankie hasn’t told anyone, also I hope if the whole village find out they help support Frankie and chase Suzanne and JJ out as there’s plenty of people in that village who’d be a better mother/sister/brother/uncle/aunt/grandparents to Frankie. I also hope Darren thanks Lucas for being there for Frankie and trying to help her after what JJ did to her that night in the park
At 9:40 The mom reveals her true intentions on how she feels about JJ versus her daughter. She sees JJ as a way to get rich and make money and have more social status. Versus Frankie who's always been a "mess up" this is why she's always going to take JJ's side. That and she's just a bad mom
This is brilliant acting from all of the characters in this! I'm glad that Darren believes Frankie, even if her mother doesn't.
When she finds out the truth who her son really is he’s nothing but a disappointment and start blaming herself knowing that she failed for not disciplining her son
I knew Suzanne would never trust Frankie but she’ll regret it later on in the couple of days
She doesn't, in the new episode it turns out Suzanne knew all along about jj abusing Frankie since 9 and actually steals Frankie's phone in order to hide all the evidence and save JJ
@@hsz_xkreally? Oh if that’s true I called it months ago! I knew she knew!
@@hsz_xk so many mothers know and bury their heads. It's so so common...
@keeperofthe7keys1987 she tried to tell her when she was nine! She knows full well it’s true she just doesn’t want people to know what she’s let happen right under her nose. And people need to understand the Jack situation isn’t as black and white as her just simply lying. Think about how Jj starts his creepy actions. “Let’s play school disco” then he’s starts slow dancing with her and rubbing her. In her moment with Jack she had a genuine trauma response to being touched while dancing. To Frankie she wasn’t lying because of what usually comes next. Of course we the audience know Jack would never but a young girl who’s been going through what she has for years? Yeah not as simple as people make out
So glad darren is there for frankie hes 10x the parent suzanne is
That woman is deluded not believing her own daughter. those type of mothers make me sick.
The Dad was so hurt that he was crying but the mother was thinking about the son making them rich. That would go away if they report him to the authorities.
The amount of self control he has in the car, at least initially (I paused it to say this) is absolutely legendary.
I’ve got goosebumps watching this. Brava to all of the actors involved.
Suzanne’s been annoying me for awhile, but this is just too much.
If she does believe Frankie later on & sees JJ’s true colors, I hope Frankie DOESNT FORGIVE HER MOM. Suzanne doesn’t deserve any for neglecting Frankie, playing favorites with JJ and all those horrible things she called her own daughter.
Frankie’s better off without Suzanne as a mom.
She,s Glad ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
In the latest episode Suzanne ends up not caring about frankie at all but only cares about jj, in the new episode it turns out Suzanne knew all along about jj seuxally abusing Frankie since she 9 and Suzanne actually steals Frankie's phone in order to hide all the evidence and save jj
@@hsz_xk suzanne knows and can't admit it she has probably frankie told her before and when she assumed it was her bf and kicked him out and it didn't stop why didn't she put two and two together she's sick
@@hsz_xk Wow. Just when I thought Suzanne couldn’t go any lower. I hope Nancy, Darren or somebody call her out for being a garbage parent.
Exactly. Suzanne will be grovelling for forgiveness from Frankie for not believing her.
Make sense she does not trust her... Look at what she said... "Our son will make us rich beyond our wildest dreams"... Only interested in the money the son will make.
☝️EXACTLY. MONEY OVER HER OWN DAUGHTER. SHE'S SICKENING
How can a mother not believe her own daughter?! 🙄 It's like we are living back in the 60s and 70s when people were too scared to come forward. Like Darren says out loud. "This is why people don't come forward." That quote alone is heartbreaking.
It’s like it’s a tv show and they r doing it for the drama 🫣
It does happen in real life too. Why come forward when your family don't believe you. Just to have the step mother say oh she makes it up for attention. So after that no matter what happens you just stay quiet because what's the point in saying anything. I was raped at 5 and 6 yrs old by 2 different men. Was sexually assaulted by my step brother for years until I ran away. Was told by my doctor that I would never be able to have children because of all scar tissue and trauma my body suffered as child. To this day my father still thinks I made it up and we definitely don't get along. Just so people know my mother is dead and I'm an only child.
When your children tell you something you better listen
.most of the time it's a close family member that's abusing the child are a friend are a coach
Having Frankie finally speak up and Darren actually believing her makes me so happy, seeing Darren scream at JJ, but denying it is so annoying. Her mum not believing her ONCE again made me mad, hopefully they can get The mum to believe Frankie and do something about JJ
Plot twist: Either Hannah or even Neville (if he returned) will back Frankie up and say that they witnessed something between Frankie and JJ. I really hope Hannah backs her sister up.
hollyoaks have really done their research, suzanne is in denial, which is usually a common response with a Taboo like this, she doesn't want to believe it but she know's deep down it's the truth, Darren is an incredible Father 💯 I hope JJ gets the consequences for his evil s*ck actions
That fake out was actually well shot, I know it was happening because of the comments but still :)
One of the most powerful scenes in Hollyoaks history! I was on the edge of my seat. Each actor/actress was amazing!
It's great that Darren believes Frankie but its a bummer that Suzanne doesn't however sooner or later the truth is coming to light and when it does JJ's gonna have a lot to answer for.
In the latest episode Suzanne ends up not caring about frankie at all but only cares about jj, in the new episode it turns out Suzanne knew all along about jj seuxally abusing Frankie since she 9 and Suzanne actually steals Frankie's phone in order to hide all the evidence and save jj
@@hsz_xk Well Suzy just went from Sweet Suzy to Terrible Suzy
@@hsz_xkAND WHAT HAPPENED AFTER THAT
Darren please tell Nancy she'll know what to do
Yes she will ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
What sort of mother doesn't believe her own daughter? the Fact that she was quick to Believe JJ and dismiss Frankie despite the sincerity in her face shows what a terrible mother she really is she did not even sit down and listen to anything Frankie had to say she just walked out on her even if she does not believe Frankie and Darren she should ask Oscar as he also knows the truth about what Frankie's been through she will definitely regret walking out on her once the truth is finally revealed and I would not blame Frankie if she did not want anything to do with her mother after this.
She isn't giving Frankie a second chance to what she has got to say
Frankie told her mum that JJ touched her when she was nine but she just assumed it was her boyfriend. She told her again and was still in denial because she wants to protect JJ.
Sadly, this happens in a lot of cases. Especially when the perpetrator is someone close like a friend, relative, or romantic partner. Parents don't want to believe that their judgement is so flawed that they couldn't recognise a predator 😢
@@marcellemccalla6325 that's ture
He's a wonderful father. That mother should never be allowed to be called mother to anyone. They should file a restraining order. 😡
AMAZING performance. i stopped watching hollyoaks consistently but i’ve kept up with this storyline on here.. really glad that frankie finally said something & darren believed her STRAIGHT AWAY. nancy is def gonna do the same, this is so emotional. 💔
That happened with me. My mom was more concerned about my brother!
Darren is the last person to not believe Frankie. His best friend, Luke, was raped back when they were teenagers and kept it a secret. Darren is possibly the best advocate for Frankie.
I see why Suzanne isn’t believing it because it’s absolutely disgusting and horrible to think about. To even think this happens irl to is equally as horrible Frankie did the right thing and so did Darren ❤
Interesting, the way the writers are trying to portray two sides. Some believe the victims and others don't. As soon as Frankie told Darren, he started to see the truth. But Suzanne went the other way.
The Mother didn't want to believe it because she said the son was going to make them rich. That's all she's worried about.
I wish that Frankie would be able to get police involved
She will big time
absolutely incredible acting performances, i'm sobbing heavily. brilliant work.
Sadly it's pretty normal for families to try cover this stuff up.
I get why her mum is not believing it considering her behavior and how she accused her grandad, however surely Darren wholeheartedly believing Frankie should be a sign that he knows what happened, her mum shouldnt have jumped to conclusions and asked more questions, ask exactly what was said, why it's believed, when it happened etc. Darren should have told her mum what he told JJ, how it all makes sense cause the lashing out, self harm etc. Her mum is awful.
Suzanne is going to lose custody of her kids when this is over, JJ is gonna go to jail and Frankie won’t want to see him or her ever again.
The rest of the family is going to need therapy. And I'm hoping they drop the investigation on Nancy. Let alone I hope Frankie doesn't get in trouble for lying about Nancy
@@a.l.y.a.m.e.d486 it was her brother that forced her to lie he was the one that hit her head with a hard golden shoe
Now I’m wondering where JJ learned it from because 9 years old and him trying to manipulate his dad is crazy. I wonder if the mom was touching JJ
Well done, Frankie finally told the truth of JJ Bravo and Glade. She's got her dad Darren on her side .
About time this came out to open Darren excellent acting well done to the team it was touching 😢
Frankie needs to tell Darren about the video now as proof
OA the video’s been deleted.
@@ChelseyLinden should still be saved on a cloud or such storage .
@@ChelseyLinden Just because it's deleted doesn't mean it's completely gone. There are ways to get deleted videos back if it's stored in a backup file or cloud
@@Landofnothingoscar saw the video as well which proves Nancy’s innocent
So relieved to see Darren and Frankie together. Nancy too will be able to return if Darren explains everything to the police. Wish they all stay together again as a happy family without JJ and Suzanne. But I think JJ and Suzanne should be taken before the law.
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We know someone,didn't believe her daughter,let her go,accused her of lying,lost her, can't be bothered with the one she has left at home ,shames the word Mother.
Suzanne even said about J.J. making them rich. If she believes Frankie, her money train J.J. goes away. Not mother material.
Wow, Darren, Frankie and JJ were epic! Absolutely brilliant.
It is gonna be an up hill battle . especially because she has already falsely accused two people before this and JJ WILL use that against her
Thank God for this amazing dad 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
This happens so much in families that the abuser is believed more than the victim. The fact she blamed her daughter for lying g is so typical.
Suzanne Hall did a great performance, same for everyone else!
OA definitely. Do you think Nancy should adopt Frankie and rat out JJ “Devereuax 😂” to the police????? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@ChelseyLinden Yes I do!
Suzanne is awful and shouldn't be a mother!
@@CSS-Tails_Forever OA it’s no wonder Hannah took them away from her.
Suzanne: And you Darren, I expected better from you.
Darren: At least I’m actually being a parent.
Suzanne: What’s that supposed to mean?
OA Me: It means Darren is finally acting like a better Parent than you are Suzanne.
This is gonna be like Finn and Diane all over again.
This is why a lot of girls don't tell because they aren't believed!
For a mother not to believe is sick. I did'nt realize they were twins. I only watch this story line on here. It is good, but VERY disturbing. Raping your own twin sister !
It's definitely disturbing
I've watched Hollyoaks since the beginning and am the first to admit there is a LOT wrong with it (that hopefully will be sorted by the time jump) but this storyline has been perfection from the start. The acting has been incredible from the two youngsters and although we've seen Ashley being brilliant many times before he's jusy reached another level. I'm sure when Nancy finds out Jessica will also be amazing.
I'm a survivor of sexual abuse and Hollyoaks have absolutely done Frankies story justice.
It's rare when parents actually believe.
That is why the son is a predator, because his mother is a monster.
i love darren 🥰🥺 1:47 10:53 11:06 11:20
Me too ❤❤❤❤❤
The actress who plays frankie is absolutely brilliant suzanne disgusts me for all the things she said about nancy stems straight from jealousy because she knows shes a better mother x
Well like son like mother
Gods, you can just see Darren breaking as he puts it together and tries to figure out what to do. I can't image what that must feel like.
Someone has to find that video jj deleted can't believe a mother would do that x
Happens more often than you think. My mom didn't tell anyone when I told her. But mine was with a relative.
poor frankie 🥺 2:06
I WILL SUPPORT HER ALL THE WAY THROUGH GOOD TIMES AND BAD TIMES
Ugh, the acting was brilliant. I knew Darren would believe her, and I knew Suzanne wouldn't was the tape of JJ assulting her destroyed?
Suzanne has always been oblivious and in denial when any of her children were in trouble, mainly Hannah and Frankie. Over 16 years ago, Hannah did lie about Gilly (Rhys' best mate) hurting her only to protect herself from Suzanne, Rhys, and brother Josh from finding out about her eating disorder. So that is probably why she is denying JJ's abusing Frankie now.
I am glad that Frankie has moved to Hollyoaks and now lives with Darren. And maybe now Nancy can come home and adopt her.
He's such a good dad!
As much as I despise Suzanne, I can't entirely blame her for not wanting to believe what her own son was capable of. Also, there was this theory on reddit I found that could explain why Suzanne doesn't believe Frankie, and the event dates back to 2007 when her daughter Hannah lied about being SA by Gilly so she could hide her anorexia. Gilly noticed Hannah not eating, and she threatened him to keep his mouth shut.
I hate Suzanne with a passion, but that theory could make sense for the character. (Well that, and seeing JJ as the golden child considering she could profit off his football talent.)
They’ve spat on Suzanne’s character like they did with Hannah they made a big mistake bringing them back
I know she was always quite annoying back in the day but she was never awful like this.
Suzanne should believe Frankie because the girl went through so much hell because J.K. is the reason for the charade.
She wont believe Franky because JJ is her favorite child and she pretty much made it clear she loves him more and just tolerates Franky.
EVERY ACTOR ON THE SCREEN RIGHT HERE DEVOURED! INCREDIBLE PERFORMANCES 👏🏻 JJ is STILL LYING to Darren !? 😱😱 We need Oscar to show Darren the video. Then hopefully we can finally send JJ down 😭🤞🏻
My mom watches this show. She told me this part made her incredibly angry that she had to shut off the show to calm down
This episode was simply epic and I’m so happy about JJ being exposed. A superb acting from Ashley and Isabelle. 🔥👏🏻
Suzanne 😤😤😤😤😤😤 what a stupid mother i cant believe she believed him and not her
Hollyoaks sue need believe her
That's really unfair to say things like that in front of your daughter that's unacceptable
In the latest episode Suzanne ends up not caring about frankie at all but only cares about jj, in the new episode it turns out Suzanne knew all along about jj seuxally abusing Frankie since she 9 and Suzanne actually steals Frankie's phone in order to hide all the evidence and save jj
The first thing out of her mouth when she walked in was about how much money her son was gonna make them
I wonder if this will cause a recurrance of Darren's depression down the road. That's a lot of trauma happening to his children that he cannot protect them from.
The fact they’ve gave JJ cancer is absolutely disgusting and a slap in the face to assault victims. What a way to ruin an important storyline!
@kieramcgregor I've never laid eyes on this show til these clips popped up on my homepage. So I know nothing about any of it, incl if any of this family are half or step members.
It sounds like you wanted legal justice rather than karma. Is that right?
I was more shocked than anything when he died because I honestly wanted him to get some form of punishment
How did he die and did Frankie die from cancer.@juanitamorgan5475
Hopefully Suzanne will believe Frankie 😢
She should be better next time
Glad she's got Darren on her side now. Suzanne is such a terrible mother, just seeing the £ signs.
Just watched the preview episode online of Hollyoaks, and Frankie`s Mum sinks to new lows 😢.
It's sick that Suzanne doesn't believe her own daughter.