Corner weighting the S65 E30 M3 BMW for a trackday.

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  • @HustleHabit
    @HustleHabit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Something a master mechanic told me years ago... "It'll never be as easy as you think it's going to be."

    • @driftworks
      @driftworks  4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Never a truer word spoken.

  • @thekiddupree5567
    @thekiddupree5567 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Hands down...you guys own the sickest fleet of cars. Both form and function. 👌

  • @realMaverickBuckley
    @realMaverickBuckley 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have to say as someone who met you in 2006 back in the early days, you come across just as down to earth now and personable as when you were smoking out S14s and R32s.

    • @driftworks
      @driftworks  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      👋 Thank you 👍

  • @tschambes9483
    @tschambes9483 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Corner Weighting is an absolute Game Changer!
    Done this to my old Evo 8 which was only hight adujusted.
    Was a complete new feeling with the car.

  • @koltface
    @koltface 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    As someone who does track setup for a living, thank you for showing everything. I can't believe how many shops leave out the leveling of the plates!
    And to anyone commenting about pre-load, stop. It doesn't change anything.

    • @driftworks
      @driftworks  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      👍 I think most people probably switched off at that point, but it's the most important bit. Cheers 👍

    • @realMaverickBuckley
      @realMaverickBuckley 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've had my cars weighted before and never even thought about that! 😞

  • @ecarasig
    @ecarasig 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Track vid please! This thing has to be a weapon on the track. 1400 kilo with driver and s65? The numbers are so good with this car!

    • @ecarasig
      @ecarasig 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Russell_and_Rosko What engine combo that is comprable to s65 and DCT that is lighter in your opinion? I suppose Phil's bigger fuel tank doesn't help in the weight dept. either.

    • @driftworks
      @driftworks  4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      👍 It's very good on track. It's about 100kg heavier than I thought it would be when starting the build, but it drives so well with all of the suspension theory I threw at it.

    • @Mustardmartin
      @Mustardmartin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Awesome!

    • @Russell_and_Rosko
      @Russell_and_Rosko 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fck I wasn’t trying to be overly critical. I was pointing out that the numbers aren’t “so good” as the op was saying. I don’t doubt the car, just the overly enthusiastic original comment suggesting 1400 kgs is light. 🤐

    • @ecarasig
      @ecarasig 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Russell_and_Rosko Sorry I wasn't trying to be negative about your comment. I was just curious to your opinion. As much as i like e30's i don't really know how much they really weigh with an M20, M50, S52 or the like.

  • @WillV8
    @WillV8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Finnegan Speed and Marine Hat representing 😁

    • @driftworks
      @driftworks  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      🤘

    • @drewsteroriginals4564
      @drewsteroriginals4564 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@driftworks Is it a subtle way of saying Phil's bought a V8 powered jet boat....

    • @TofumanFC3S
      @TofumanFC3S 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Isn’t it a a church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster hat?

  • @Matty.Hill_87
    @Matty.Hill_87 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    They just got it right when the designed these e30s.. New bmws are nice but I don't think they'll ever makes anything that comes close to these

  • @englishrifleman6556
    @englishrifleman6556 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Corner wieghting is a very fine art. Adjusting Corners is really just the fine tune. The real key is to place the wieght where its best whilst building the car. And thats never easy. BUT good results on track when you can master these tricks. Love the vids guys, Keep em coming.

    • @driftworks
      @driftworks  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's exactly what I did when building it. Having to have uneven ride heights is not optimal 👍

  • @garrydavis3475
    @garrydavis3475 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fair play for jay and his patience with it all hail jay!!!’

  • @p0intdk
    @p0intdk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Phil could you do a video rundown of the DCT and DCT controller, i thought about using it for project of mine with the HTG controller but there is not much out there about this stuff.
    I think it could be a interesting video, because DCT swaps could be the big new thing in the engine swap world.

  • @jonathanhawkins9147
    @jonathanhawkins9147 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not sure I understand all of this but I do find your videos fascinating, keep up the great work

    • @driftworks
      @driftworks  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      haha will do. 👍

  • @bakedbeanzontoast9078
    @bakedbeanzontoast9078 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent E30 track car, always enjoy seeing it on your channel, fab colour too btw, great vid.👍👍🇬🇧

    • @driftworks
      @driftworks  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! 👍

    • @Jakedelus
      @Jakedelus 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What is that colour code/name ? ☺ looks one off porsches blues

  • @alindquist
    @alindquist 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tip! Ad some slippery material like baking paper between the tires and weight scales and rub the car up'n down some times and you will se the weight move around a bit. As the lift won't go down 100% flat against scales the and the wheels move in'n out a bit when lowering it might be faulty corner weight. Love your videos!

    • @driftworks
      @driftworks  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's why I do a roll backwards and forwards every time the car comes back down so it settles correctly 👍

  • @secretivescorpio891
    @secretivescorpio891 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg Phil ! You have such an amazing E30.
    I've always loved them, had 3 of them myself but yours is the dogs

  • @scottwhyatt8699
    @scottwhyatt8699 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I could watch this all day guys, loving the content - great work!

  • @hoonaticbloggs5402
    @hoonaticbloggs5402 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such a sweet car man. Enjoy the track day. Look forward to the footage

  • @luisdr21
    @luisdr21 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interested in how the tuning process for the gcu goes! It would be awesome to see a video of that!

  • @markcowland5384
    @markcowland5384 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It handles really well and I don’t want to change to much. Nek minute....

  • @endeavour2127
    @endeavour2127 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this car!
    I had the opportunity to buy one many years ago but the left hand drive put me off. Wish I had bought it, so expensive now!

    • @driftworks
      @driftworks  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cheers. Yeah it's definitely a car I should have bought earlier.

  • @SHIREDRIFT
    @SHIREDRIFT 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool video Phil. Was missing the E30 updates. A bit more info on the rear suspension set up would be appreciated. Semi trailing arm cars are a bit of a lost art.
    Could you fix the eccentric bolt moving issue with a lockable washer. Seen similar with a bmx chain tensioner style design for camber brackets. but ran vertically.

    • @driftworks
      @driftworks  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! I always thought I'd be swapping to an E92 M3 rear axle in the car, but it works very well with all of the work we did to raise the beam, so I'm not going to bother now.

  • @marcelzenmedia
    @marcelzenmedia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'd tip you to next time take a Leveler (bar with air bubble thing) and put elasic bands on it to measure every corner. Then you know if the leveler youre measuring with is actually straight up

    • @driftworks
      @driftworks  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I use a spirit level to check the plates occasionally. The laser level is spot on.

    • @marcelzenmedia
      @marcelzenmedia 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@driftworks i was aiming on the use of a tape measurer, excuse me.

  • @drewsteroriginals4564
    @drewsteroriginals4564 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Video, looks rapid, would love to see this at Castle Combe

  • @matt2m
    @matt2m 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude that’s wicked quick

    • @driftworks
      @driftworks  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It goes so well!

  • @rafmover7068
    @rafmover7068 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My head is fried trying to contemplate everything you're doing. 😂

  • @pousk
    @pousk 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this car and im glad it's beeing used for what it was built. I'd love to see this around Nurburgring, maybe a low 7min? maybe sub 7? (BTG)

    • @driftworks
      @driftworks  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha, not with me driving 😄

  • @TwinDeckz
    @TwinDeckz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So much knowledge even Phils hat cant handle it!

  • @JNASLDN
    @JNASLDN 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    so many things to think about, but ultimately if it's not calculating to what Phil wants, then try, try, try again :)

  • @christopherreed8152
    @christopherreed8152 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been waiting patiently for a new video of the beautiful e30. ❤❤❤
    She is truly a work of art.
    Would you ever consider selling her?
    Thank you gentlemen.
    Great work, as always.👍🏻✌🏻

    • @driftworks
      @driftworks  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks. I never say never, but as I have well into 6 figures in the build it's not likely.

    • @kells77
      @kells77 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Driftworks £500 and a bag of rowntree randoms?😃

  • @SuperClownLoach
    @SuperClownLoach 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Garage goals! Good Lord!🤯

  • @brendon8702
    @brendon8702 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think I know why Starky is taking his time to get his car done.. We've already seen the engine been pulled apart for rebuild.. So its probably ready to drop in, and he'll get it wrapped in an afternoon. Hes just holding off to create suspense!

  • @DoomTr00per
    @DoomTr00per 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whats the sweet outro music, my drum&bass dudes?

  • @benbanks6880
    @benbanks6880 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg that E30......is a thing of beauty.....how many cars do you own? Lol

    • @driftworks
      @driftworks  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks. Too many!

  • @robreeves9825
    @robreeves9825 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lovely car, Phil. Coming along nicely! Does anyone know what wheels those are by the way? I fancy a set!

    • @driftworks
      @driftworks  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They are Work MCO racing. I'm not sure if they are discontinued. Drop the guys in the office an e-mail 👍

    • @robreeves9825
      @robreeves9825 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@driftworks Thanks for the tip!

  • @adrianhurley3909
    @adrianhurley3909 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great Vid as usual, BUT I'm confused 🤔.....is this a proper business or just a big boys toys garage??? 🤣

    • @lukenobrains
      @lukenobrains 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They say regularly... its an online shop with a big boys toys garage out back. They don't work on other people's cars only their own

    • @driftworks
      @driftworks  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah it's just for my own cars, and occasionally my staff as long as they don't make too much mess 😄

  • @MrRyanTrott
    @MrRyanTrott 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome videos as always.

  • @frankiewalnuts
    @frankiewalnuts 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Should use a straight edge square (L shape) place the base of the L on the plate then the vertical line will be perfectly straight, as your tape measure wont be perfectly accurate

    • @driftworks
      @driftworks  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's perfectly accurate enough for me. You'd have to lean it a substantial amount to make even 1mm difference.

  • @FirstLast-bi8xi
    @FirstLast-bi8xi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bonnet up puts a bit more weight forwards?

    • @driftworks
      @driftworks  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep, it's a light bonnet, but it will make a bit of a difference.

  • @Triicks111
    @Triicks111 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    God i really want an e30 now !

  • @quest8795
    @quest8795 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Although this video was great, it was missing the background music on time lapses, so they were a little bit quiet lol
    Aside from that though great video, I'm looking forward to seeing the track day video when that goes up :)

    • @driftworks
      @driftworks  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There was only a few seconds of it so I decided not to bother.

  • @patrykalex
    @patrykalex 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Phil you have too many toys, share some :D I have free parking spot in Poland ;)

  • @bigjohnfury5662
    @bigjohnfury5662 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    *Funny thing I bought a car off the guy who built the original Securicor Blue semi works BMW Motorsport M3's that beat the Works Prodrive M3's and won everything in British touring cars*

  • @MattGreenland
    @MattGreenland 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How come you're changing height on the spring preload?

    • @driftworks
      @driftworks  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've already set damper length to bring the bump stop into play exactly where I want it, just before the tyre contacts the chassis.

  • @Isnt-it-Lovely
    @Isnt-it-Lovely 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    are you happy with the htg controller? are they still in business because it seems to be hard to get in contact with them at the moment.

    • @driftworks
      @driftworks  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not currently no, but it hasn't been set up properly yet.

    • @Isnt-it-Lovely
      @Isnt-it-Lovely 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@driftworks lemme know, really considering dct but lack of reliable tunability is really off puting.

  • @truthseeker8483
    @truthseeker8483 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    A few house bricks on the RHS will sort it.... :-D or potentially move a battery /spare wheel/fuel tank

  • @snape1464
    @snape1464 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you consider a sequential when buying the DCT?

    • @driftworks
      @driftworks  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not at the time. I am considering it if I can't get the DCT to work. But it will be a real shame having put so much work into this.

  • @s4ms0n1t3
    @s4ms0n1t3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does adjusting the spring perch effect preload?

    • @driftworks
      @driftworks  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes. very minimally with these sorts of movement.

  • @jobariedunn7185
    @jobariedunn7185 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its gripped up!!!

  • @Ricky-cl5bu
    @Ricky-cl5bu 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing Bmw

  • @TheAriLez
    @TheAriLez 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Phil, can i ask why you raise/lower coilovers on the spring preload instead of the coilover damper adjustment??
    I though that spring preload should not be used as height adjustment, I just bought some HSD coilovers from you guys and it specificaly says that there shouldnt be preload on springs
    Thanks

    • @driftworks
      @driftworks  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi, as I mentioned in the video when telling Jay how to do it, I previously set the damper length very accurately to bring the bump stop into play at the very last point before the tyre hits the chassis. If I adjust at the bottom cup this will change and the tyre could potentially hit the chassis. When talking about mm's of preload it makes no difference to spring rate etc 👍

    • @TheAriLez
      @TheAriLez 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@driftworks Oh that makes sense!! Thanks for the answer!!

  • @rab..
    @rab.. 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Titanium skidplate ? She's gonna be sparky when she touches down!

    • @driftworks
      @driftworks  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's the plan!

  • @glennarnold3970
    @glennarnold3970 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    phil just turn it one more time jay sod it lets just put a turbo on it i got 2 spares phil not any more you dont compound turbo viten lol

  • @rocky_top_deluxe
    @rocky_top_deluxe 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not sure if I missed it but was there weight added to the driver seat during the set up to take in for the driver?

    • @driftworks
      @driftworks  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The weight is added so it's exactly the same as if I'm sitting in it.

    • @rocky_top_deluxe
      @rocky_top_deluxe 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@driftworks awesome 🙌

  • @harryjackson1993
    @harryjackson1993 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the power to the wheels on this Phil?

    • @driftworks
      @driftworks  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can't remember, but it's a bit above stock E92M3 power. Like 440hp at the fly IIRC.

  • @superbrit3845
    @superbrit3845 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What would they do without Jay????

    • @driftworks
      @driftworks  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do it myself like I always used to? 😂

  • @ActualDragonTears1337
    @ActualDragonTears1337 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nice

  • @markchip1
    @markchip1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why don't you MARK your wood shims? FL, FR, RL, RR...

    • @driftworks
      @driftworks  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because it's never in the same place. Depends on the car & I'll generally remember what shim is needed anyway. It's just a new ramp and about a year since I did it.

  • @gaalen111
    @gaalen111 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    "it drove pretty good last time, not gonna do too much"

    • @driftworks
      @driftworks  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      just a few tweaks.

  • @TheRyanl164
    @TheRyanl164 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would having the bonnet open not make any difference on the corner weight? Or it is too marginal to make a difference?

    • @driftworks
      @driftworks  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It does effect front and rear bias a little, but not the cross weights.

  • @alexandermaloney4016
    @alexandermaloney4016 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What wheels and spec are these on the E30?

    • @driftworks
      @driftworks  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can't remember the offsets off the top of my head but they are Work MCO racing (supplied by Driftworks of course) in 17x10 and 17x9 IIRC.

  • @Loda_be
    @Loda_be 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    which front struts are you using on this car? because they are not stock e30 M3

    • @driftworks
      @driftworks  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      HSD MonoPro E36 M3 with E36 knuckles/uprights. My car uses the E36 top mount, but we can supply the kit with E30 camber adjustable top mounts.

  • @CoreRye
    @CoreRye 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How you finding the Drexler diff?

  • @kenrossaukrsa
    @kenrossaukrsa 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to swap My Vw Golf Plus for Jays Clio ?😬

    • @driftworks
      @driftworks  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you aware that the engine exploded? 😄

    • @kenrossaukrsa
      @kenrossaukrsa 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Driftworks yes but after it is fixed ;)

  • @craig1048
    @craig1048 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where did you buy the camber measuring plate from?

    • @driftworks
      @driftworks  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can't recall I'm afraid. Possibly DemonTweeks?

    • @craig1048
      @craig1048 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@driftworks perfect. Will have a look. Looks like a nice bit of kit

    • @bolf
      @bolf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@craig1048 made by ADA , i got mine from merlin motorsport iirc

    • @craig1048
      @craig1048 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bolf thankyou!

  • @123divad
    @123divad 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    slimmers world , you lost 15kg in 2 days good going haha

  • @andy00grant
    @andy00grant 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What sort of power is this putting down?

    • @driftworks
      @driftworks  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think it was 440hp.

    • @andy00grant
      @andy00grant 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@driftworks so plenty then.

  • @DmitryShkeirov
    @DmitryShkeirov 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    12:38 Did I see right that Jay changed the height of the coilover with spring perch? That changes spring preload and damper bump/droop ratio.
    That coilover has the bottom sleeve for height adjustment. Just sayin'...

    • @JackPayne91
      @JackPayne91 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He literally explained why/how they’re doing this in the video.

    • @DmitryShkeirov
      @DmitryShkeirov 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JackPayne91 Have i missed that? Timecode?

    • @rpm427sc
      @rpm427sc 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DmitryShkeirov th-cam.com/video/DmzDCka5iO0/w-d-xo.html

    • @driftworks
      @driftworks  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂

    • @woznaldo
      @woznaldo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      There’s a good write up on corner weighting here: www.turnology.com/features/corner-balancing-lot-important-think/ my only critique is lowering the car directly on the scales and not enough roll back and forth. That said, another great vid of a pretty awesome car!

  • @jaccoeversdijk
    @jaccoeversdijk 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    To who did you sel the z4 acs

    • @driftworks
      @driftworks  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      A couple of guys that are going to restore it.

    • @jaccoeversdijk
      @jaccoeversdijk 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@driftworks goonsqaud?

  • @TheReecebob
    @TheReecebob 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I might be being stupid here but why didn’t Phil just sit in the car for the weight

  • @chrisg4rr377
    @chrisg4rr377 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I see E's i click Like

  • @krzysieke3040
    @krzysieke3040 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice 👍😍

  • @richardfallow
    @richardfallow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this car but it frustrates the shit out of me seeing how relatively simple things turn into 3 days work! I'm only watching a video, if either of you had more hair this kind of thing would facilitate the process along ;)

  • @biro24
    @biro24 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    😀

  • @mattb4353
    @mattb4353 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    100Kg for a Phil, Blimey! Lol

    • @driftworks
      @driftworks  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      On a good day at the moment.

  • @kellybanks8681
    @kellybanks8681 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍🏽👍🏽✌🏽

  • @michaelbiniakewitz2329
    @michaelbiniakewitz2329 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Phil, you gotta be less than 100kg,

    • @Jonathan_Doe_
      @Jonathan_Doe_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wouldn’t be so sure on that one, it’s easy to be 100kg whilst looking surprisingly slim if you’re all muscle.

    • @adamn5803
      @adamn5803 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      And the weight of the massive brass balls it must take to drive that AE86

    • @driftworks
      @driftworks  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm carrying some baby weight at the mo. I'm 104kg 😄

    • @michaelbiniakewitz2329
      @michaelbiniakewitz2329 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@driftworks the baby weight comment literally had my water go down the wrong pipe. The dangers of reading TH-cam's comments whilst eating

  • @karebu2
    @karebu2 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this a pre-covid video or is covid cured where you are?

    • @SJ-ub2eq
      @SJ-ub2eq 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a pre-track video.

    • @driftworks
      @driftworks  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's from last week.

  • @ApexwithDavin
    @ApexwithDavin 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    First. Boom.