The Maple Leaf Rag - Scott Joplin QRS-Connorized Roll Lauter-Humana Player Piano
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 พ.ย. 2009
- Here is the King of Ragtime, Scott Joplin(1868?-1917) on a guaranteed Hand Played QRS-Connorized Record Roll, played on a Lauter-Humana Player Piano. The player piano's heyday lasted from 1900 to the Depression in the1930's. Affordable radios started becoming commonplace in 1927. In 1932, not a single player piano was shipped from the factories. Player pianos sounded much better than radio or the Edison mechanical phonographs of that era. Player pianos were expensive but families who had them enjoyed the musical talents of the best pianists of the day. The poverty of the Great Depression effectively ended player piano production. Uncounted thousands of these instruments were chopped up and used for fuel.
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What a find!!
Eerie... as if hearing the ghost of Scott Joplin himself! Thanks for posting.
@KawhackitaRag PLAYER PIANOS (the regular, foot-pumped variety) are great not only for singing along, excercise, power outages (no electricity needed) and learning tunes (by slowing the roll down and following the keys), but they also teach you about expression and dynamics if you have a well-restored player and some classical rolls. You can listen to classical recordings and then try to duplicate the dynamics, rubato, etc. on the player, and it will teach you a lot about music in general.
The master and his masterpiece! Thanks for posting one of my favorites!
Thanks for posting LOVED it.
The piano roll is (obviously) playing in the key of Ab but the piano is tuned down a half-step so we're hearing it in G. Not all that uncommon for old pianos to be tuned down a half step because the pins or the strings can't hold the additional tension of concert pitch. This will help the piano stay in tune and prevent strings from snapping. My piano tuner did this to one of my early, upright player pianos when I was a kid. It's good for the piano but really bad for a young student's ears.
Same happened to me. It was ages before I realised. It explained why I always felt slightly lost when playing my piano teachers piano. I mentioned it to the tuner as if it was a mistake that needed correcting, and he explained about the tension thing. As it was an old piano it made sense so I accepted it.
Been there ... done that. My grandmother's ca. 1930 Apollo grand (Ralph Wurlitzer's cheapo marque) won't hold 440 with rapidly going out of tune or breaking strings. I heard that that concert A has gradually crept upward over the years, from 435 to 440 to, in some cases 442. Frustrating for those of us blessed/cursed with absolute pitch.
P.S. this is a good roll, but I agree with Lucius, the arrangement was altered in the 1950s or 1960s and an inappropriate swing feel was added which is totally absent from the original Connorized roll (although I do believe there are Connorized rolls contemporary with the Joplin rolls, but played by others, that DO have a sort of swing feel).
If you want the best copy possible of the rare original Connorized roll, try Rob DeLand's recut on the BluesTone Music Rolls label.
A wonderful presentation!
Victrolaman!
one of my favorites, geesh i thought i watched all your great piano videos, nice as always.
I so need to get my pianos on here.
You should mention that people are still chopping up and junking old player pianos today, even in good condition, and that anyone who wants one will find PLENTY to be had for the GIVING AWAY! That doesn't mean your piano is worthless (or that the other ones are, either), it just means that people don't appreciate what they have. A player piano is also a REAL PIANO that can be PLAYED BY HAND just like a regular piano, and so one can get one and (as long as it's restored) not need two pianos.
I congratulate you for such a wonderful collection of recordings and totally fantastic and interesting players in many aspects I send you many flavors from Argentina I hope you upload some other song on your automatic piano wonder
Thanks you! I hear this song always played too fast. This sounds great because it's the speed it's supposed to be and some of the parts really make sense now. It sounds GREAT.
I totally agree, I remember having this Piano Tuned shortly before this video was made a few years ago. Thanks for the comment.
Interesting! There a re also some wonderful piano rolls cut by the great composer/pianist Rachminoff in the 1920's/ It is eerie to here the composer actually playing the music
@Eddy2730 That's wonderful. Glad you could confirm the Birthdate !! Thanks for watching and critiquing the description.
Victrolaman
I would love to find out the year that this roll was recorded. It's hard to believe it is actually Joplin since it swings so much, but I have heard other Joplin rolls where he is swinging so certainly not impossible. Thank you for posting!
Wery nice machine
Unfortunately, this roll is not exactly a faithful reproduction of Joplin's playing.
I've heard the original Connorized roll on the Biograph label discs, and Joplin actually played it more 'straight'; apparently when QRS re-issued it, they altered the tempo to make it more 'jazzy' - hence those unequal notes.
Yes, correct. The original Connorized roll is the more accurate. But even that is sadly edited, just beyond the point of give any information of his style.
here's a link to the actual piano roll, before the swing was added:
th-cam.com/video/jIjpB49bacM/w-d-xo.html
there was at the time, no swing in rag - but in the 1950s they wanted to make it sound more swingy so they altered the player piano roll.
Indeed. Still not as faithful as his Aeolian roll made around 1916/17.
I'm a pianist of more years than I can remember (not really), but am I alone in wishing like mad that player pianos were kept in tune!? There is no reason to my way of thinking that player (or roller) pianos should sound out of tune. So there! :)
I have a roll for a piano like this, but not the piano.
Is there any way I can get a proper recording of this song? You say that it was recorded but Joplin himself, and since he died in 1917, that means that this recording is public domain, since it predates 1922. Is there any way I can get a recording from you of this particular "scroll"? I could definitely use it for a movie I'm working on!
You've got one thing right. Scott Joplin was born in 1868.
@victrolaman *Chuckles* Fancy an Englishman (me) knowing something like that from the top of his head! (No offence intended, though).
Regrettably Victrolaman your piano is not in tune for this recording. If I were you I'd fire your piano tuner :) I have this same QRS piano roll - and I believe it has been 'doctored' over the years.
Nice rendition; dreadful piano, painful to listen to.
This was done 10 years ago, and you are just getting around to telling us that the Piano is painful to listen to. Well I sold it shortly after this was recorded, for a good price too. So now some other poor Schmuck can play all of those rolls I sold him with the Piano, and be Painfully entertained by the Dreadful Piano. LOL .