Life Of A Legionary - Mount & Blade II Bannerlord #1

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  • @JackieFishHD
    @JackieFishHD  3 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    The campaign is off to a slow start but I will be live streaming more of this campaign tomorrow at 3pm GMT, so make sure to tune in. If you can't though, you can all check out the Vods afterward here - th-cam.com/play/PLxH_Ujz9YfKLGvpbdsADk0yNegecofjmZ.html

    • @andmake-qg5bi
      @andmake-qg5bi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What is the mod that allows u to join someone else's service and level up also I am very excited for this series

    • @JackieFishHD
      @JackieFishHD  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@andmake-qg5bi freelancer

    • @andmake-qg5bi
      @andmake-qg5bi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JackieFishHD thank you so much mr.Fish

    • @stoplookingatmyname3767
      @stoplookingatmyname3767 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Please make this a long term series

    • @debbiewilson6366
      @debbiewilson6366 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JackieFishHD jackie this sounds dumb but Im young and want to make money for a pc what's some tips also could you do a massive vlandian shield wall with crowsbow men

  • @HighAdmiral
    @HighAdmiral 3 ปีที่แล้ว +374

    Did anyone else start hearing "TITUS PULLO, GET BACK IN FORMATION!" when, midway through the video, he, a random levy, starts walking in front of the formation?

    • @williamwerner1535
      @williamwerner1535 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      😂💯

    • @kajtekii4666
      @kajtekii4666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes

    • @kajtekii4666
      @kajtekii4666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      No discipline 😑

    • @jasonbourne680
      @jasonbourne680 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      "GET BACK YOU DRUNKEN FOOL!"
      lol

    • @elvenkind6072
      @elvenkind6072 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      *Whistle* *Pullo, FORMATION!!! Pullo! SINGLE formation! *WHISTLE* Shields on ME! Get BACK IN FORMATION, you drunken fool!!!*
      'devolves into fist fight'...

  • @flak509
    @flak509 3 ปีที่แล้ว +372

    The empress fired me after 28 kills, she got married and disbanded her army, so I will become a routier and make the road unsafe :D

    • @kemaichijou8999
      @kemaichijou8999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Hey bro the shield wall formation don't work for the new patch I can't find a mod that is up to date that use the Roman shield wall sadly the eagle rising didn't do well on the wall formation the unit don't raise their shield over Thier head to create a perfect testudo formation for shield wall sadly the old mods no longer support the new version of M n B if you know any modder please help update the old mod or made one that is up to date 🙏😊

  • @chaddusmaximus4938
    @chaddusmaximus4938 3 ปีที่แล้ว +163

    She's not a prisoner, she's actually in the keep of the settlement she's staying in.

  • @Blisterdude123
    @Blisterdude123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Cato's friends would call him Limpius Simpius if he had any, but he doesn't, so his bullies do.

  • @venomisaacl8963
    @venomisaacl8963 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    95% of the video:
    Jackie: "Guys, I promise I'm not this bad at the game, really."

  • @vertildr3305
    @vertildr3305 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    When you said tall and lanky I was thinking Cato! Especially after you mentioned the slave background.

  • @csf.outdoors7933
    @csf.outdoors7933 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I think the horse delivery and taking damage when it runs into people makes the cavalry much more realistic

  • @tffrostbite3231
    @tffrostbite3231 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Just wanted to say I’m living through you vicariously because I don’t have a gaming PC anymore and mount and blade has been my absolute favorite since I was a kid. Just now starting this series and I can’t wait to see how far it goes. Also just subscribed today and I wish I’d have found your channel sooner.

  • @hi3988
    @hi3988 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    46:05 "I will protect you archer boy." ~2021

  • @truth6441
    @truth6441 3 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    I guess we will join up with the empress..."because she has a lot of soldiers". There's an excuse of a simp right there. I do agree though Pharons 151 was rather light to Rhageae's 152+1. In all honesty I do the same in a lot of my campaigns lol.

    • @flameking4119
      @flameking4119 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True but if he is a simp he’s a super intense Minecraft player

  • @JustinIsOnTheTube
    @JustinIsOnTheTube 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Great mod list. Really excited for this.

  • @Adrivan
    @Adrivan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Unless one of your mods changed it, you dont need to go into a town to check for tournaments, you can see an icon (a helmet) next to the exclamation mark if there is a tournament going on

  • @Jusaindo
    @Jusaindo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    FINALLY. I was waiting for the freelancer series in banner lord ever sense you did the mod showcase

  • @joyfulturtle9478
    @joyfulturtle9478 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Damn You have no idea how excited I was all these days thank youuuuu Jackie

  • @TheEarlofBronze1
    @TheEarlofBronze1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Rome Total War OST playing in the background elevates this lets play BIG time.

  • @gregoryanderson3398
    @gregoryanderson3398 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    "it really makes you feel like spiderman" -Ign

  • @bigg6434
    @bigg6434 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I started at the and went through to tier 5.....then I was asked by the lord to be on his personal guard. Went from regular enlisted to the T6 of the noble troop line! Was a nice gear upgrade and a huge pay bump 😎

  • @-_-naab-_-
    @-_-naab-_- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Rediscovered you after so many years, im glad!

  • @armchairwarrior963
    @armchairwarrior963 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Once you get taken prisoner while in a army, you can join any other army.

  • @baalgamer1966
    @baalgamer1966 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The rome total war music brought back some really nice memories. Great video.

  • @toysintheattic2664
    @toysintheattic2664 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Ah man I love Simon scarrow books. The eagles series is so good. I’m definitely going to do a Lucinius Cornelius Macro play through now

  • @rtgh2010
    @rtgh2010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nice to here another fan of Simon Scarrow. The books are great read . Already loving this campaign. We need a Centurion Marco..

    • @Caromaros
      @Caromaros 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Check out Marius’ Mules by SJA Turney, I’ve read the eagles of the empire series like 5 or 6 times and it’s the closest I’ve been able to come, it’s basically a book set 100 years before macro but with someone who could very well be his great-great-grandpa from how he is as a character

    • @Ode289
      @Ode289 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Caromaros RW Peake's Marching with Caesar series is also very good

    • @masonworker2670
      @masonworker2670 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ode289 I’m actually on book 2 of that rn, awesome so far

  • @TotallyNotElPresidente
    @TotallyNotElPresidente 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Should have named him Lucius Vorenus. Stoic second pear centurion in Caesar's mighty 13th.

    • @Darth_Melvis
      @Darth_Melvis 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Feel like that'd be better if he joined the Western Empire that way he can fight the celts and wear the Red.

  • @breadking4096
    @breadking4096 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    52:20 Well that has scarred my entire life... WHY!.!??!

    • @dread5327
      @dread5327 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was thinking that nobody noticed that

  • @andergustafson6664
    @andergustafson6664 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The rome and medieval 2 total war battle music is nice

  • @IndyGuest
    @IndyGuest 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is exactly the kind of experience I was hoping to have in a Bannerlord campaign. Thanks for showcasing this!

  • @untitledk1804
    @untitledk1804 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    finally i was exited for days

  • @jerydgordon632
    @jerydgordon632 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So glad you are doing this series, looks awesome!

  • @ninomusic1492
    @ninomusic1492 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    oooooooh this is so cool! i like how you mixed this with a lot of your prev mods

  • @charlieenglish9864
    @charlieenglish9864 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    :0 is that Rome: Total War battle music?!

  • @Marekcatholic
    @Marekcatholic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jackie Fish like a true coward. Marches to battle in first ranks, begins fighting one of the last :)

  • @lucien5536
    @lucien5536 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for including your mods list bro! this is so helpful at least this way I can defo download these mods knowing they'll work without having to trial and error everything!

  • @VIKINGR1993
    @VIKINGR1993 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love this idea!!! Been reading the simon scarrow eagle books...waiting for the next book to arrive from the interlibrary loan system at my local library...you MUST find a centurion companion for him (cant have Cato without Macro)

  • @robertguildford4793
    @robertguildford4793 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Half way into the character creation I bloody knew it was Cato coming up 😁 cant wait to see who you choose as Macro 😂

  • @jamesbarham2033
    @jamesbarham2033 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am so excited for what Bannerlord can become through modding!

  • @TheKalippp1
    @TheKalippp1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    3:35 Vagir building is literally the Bloody Baron's Castle entrance in Witcher 3 lol. Idk how i recognised it

  • @MrEmpify
    @MrEmpify 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The reason she says "huh? How did you get in here" is because she is in the keep and in order to have that conversation normally you would have had to bribe a guard to get in. I am glad they included that though because the lord I was in a party with was defeated and the join army option was just greyed out, making it so the timer almost ran down to nothing before I hopped into a different army. The downside to joining a different one is that you will lose all the progress you made in Rhagea's (meaning you will need to kill 3 or whatnot soldiers all over again to level)
    Also, if you level up and the heavier armor you get starts to weigh you down to the point of falling far behind the infantry line when they charge you can always change that athletics perk back to the the other one for more speed in the Edit Hero menu from character reset. It's still a little cheaty though so hopefully the athletics skill you get from training will make the point moot

  • @prathamagarwal8135
    @prathamagarwal8135 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I subbed and gave it a life and allowed notification to all and disabled all my adblocker, highest honour given by me.

  • @malahamavet
    @malahamavet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    7:09 that's not how Roman names work, Lucinius would be his clan name. Quintinius is his name, which is the same as his father's or one of his ancestors and Cato would be his cognomen, is like a nickname to diferenciate him from other people, which is also hereditary. so your clan should be called Lucinii

  • @adamwilliams434
    @adamwilliams434 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I started a game mode very familiar to this as well, since I love the Roman Legion, I named my Character "Arminius Marcellus Scipio" safe to say mods always make this game fun. Especially with game of thrones mods.

  • @MrDraka12
    @MrDraka12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    as soon as you said tall and lanky a thought of Cato, huge Simon Scarrow fan.

  • @257joker
    @257joker 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much for starting this series, I never know of the Simon Scarrow books, Listening to the Audio book while playing my campaign!

  • @Nanda-pk9cl
    @Nanda-pk9cl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    52:20 leave her alone man, she is just enjoying her vacation. I mean look at her face, she looks so happy

  • @aguy3203
    @aguy3203 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gotta love how mods are made that should be built in features

  • @basedropeist6617
    @basedropeist6617 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    52:20
    ANYONE ELSE SEE THAT MONSTROSITY?

  • @Erreul
    @Erreul 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    48:09 Sneaks into the prison as a guard; "Alright Jim, I got that watch, taker easy buddy.." Give it five and look around, open up the cell and step in: "Mam, I have found you! I'm here to join back up." Seinfield theme plays as Rhagaea stares with a mixture of disbelief and confusion.

  • @sakura-valley
    @sakura-valley 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    okokok, I just saw this in my recommended section and I was like: hmm it's been a long time since I've watched a Bannerlords vid, so I klicked on it and immediately saw the length of the next vid and I was like: yay, I don't have to wait half a year just to watch 4h of gameplay :D

  • @ScottyProductions22
    @ScottyProductions22 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Jackie I’m looking forward to this campaign keep up the good work

  • @davidhansson4399
    @davidhansson4399 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is such a cool concept for a vid !

  • @raulzayas9673
    @raulzayas9673 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    BTW to tell if there is a tournament in a Fief. Look at the right side of the towns name while in the campaign map, there would be a helmet icon in yellow. This is an indicator that there is a tournament currently going on.

  • @kajtas4790
    @kajtas4790 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Damm i hope you will make more of these!

  • @philjohnson1744
    @philjohnson1744 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just discovered your channel. I've always played Vanilla. But now I want this.
    Sub

  • @TheCasterlyLion
    @TheCasterlyLion 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Peep the Crows Perch picture from Witcher 3 that they use for the picture for the Vagir 3:40.

  • @themaddad3474
    @themaddad3474 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    subscribed love this idea so stoked for this series :D

  • @halfbloodhector8289
    @halfbloodhector8289 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loving the streams my dude

  • @silverspurcoffee
    @silverspurcoffee 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing books you named your character after!

  • @merci8545
    @merci8545 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can tell if there's a tournament in a city by looking to the right of the name. at 18:18 there is a small orange helmet to the right of Onira, signaling that there is a tournament going on. useful tip for you all just in case yall didn't know

  • @kaingtv6709
    @kaingtv6709 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Broooooo... you made me laugh. Watched 50 minutes and you are still a levy 😂

  • @SolusLupi
    @SolusLupi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The A.I did not wait to attack 170 vs Xhundred because when A.I attack it is not an instant battle, it takes time on the campaign map during which that 452 army would have been able to catch up and join. Since you the player are involved the move that would have been smart for A.I becomes dumb.

  • @sasaicoco1281
    @sasaicoco1281 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like how you play the game keep up the good work i want to get the game right now

  • @sedeslav
    @sedeslav 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As the Sun Tzu once said:"F1+F3, my boy!"

  • @defenceindustryinbalkan5437
    @defenceindustryinbalkan5437 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Khergits -value for the party morale should be about them constantly moving in history. They don't settle in long terms. Just a thought.

  • @dawntaywill8384
    @dawntaywill8384 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cant wait for a war hammer mod or LOTR mod

  • @PrimarchRoboleonFrenchyman
    @PrimarchRoboleonFrenchyman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much for giving your mods and loading order 🙏

  • @calrex4513
    @calrex4513 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did anyone else notice the empress at 52:20.

  • @stahleis
    @stahleis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    52:20 i think she won't be back soon judging by her face

  • @Romans-10v9
    @Romans-10v9 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great as always!

  • @snubben0350
    @snubben0350 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Lol, I knew it was Cato when I saw the name of the series and relativly skinny and tall. What book are you on?

  • @arandomcrusader6707
    @arandomcrusader6707 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know your putting a lot of points into one handed and athletics and honestly I agree because as a legionaire you will be using a sword and shield a lot and you want to get as many kills as possible to rank up, but I also advice putting some points into throwing. Why? Because you're definitely going to be throwing a lot of pila in this playthrough so yeah, just a bit of advice.

  • @KingofDiamonds117
    @KingofDiamonds117 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    any mod that allows for longer and larger battles is fun for me. I did this all the time in mount and blade warband. added a mod that removed or raised the cap for how many units could be on the battlefield, improved ai mod and, larger armies. needles to say I lost most of my battles, but darn if it wasn't fun.

  • @joelbaua7401
    @joelbaua7401 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    im late but heck yes ive been waiting for this video!!

  • @Nephlyte348
    @Nephlyte348 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like serve as soldier is really only enjoyable if you enjoy the roleplay aspect of it and are comfortable with relinquishing control to some degree of randomness. Like getting 1 kill in a battle seems appropriate if you think about it realistically and not from the normal game logic where you are a one-person killing machine. Personally enjoy it but to each their own.

  • @sonnyblack9220
    @sonnyblack9220 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hes makin it a SERIEEEES!!!

  • @emilbortnowski128
    @emilbortnowski128 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    there is a mod that is doing continues campaign map like in bannerlord online. ITs called Real Spacetime Continuum Mod and its great.

  • @rangeralexaungkyawmin2789
    @rangeralexaungkyawmin2789 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like your playing style. please do more. I changed notification to all.

  • @aowl5218
    @aowl5218 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's it BOYSS, he is making it!

  • @picklerick3358
    @picklerick3358 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    for the mods do i have to do the top 6? If they arnt important im not

  • @averysmith8662
    @averysmith8662 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In case you haven't learned yet, It's not enough to have your shield raised. you have to point it toward the source of the damage. Watching you point your "raised" shield toward the ground or off to the left while you're under arrow volley directly in front of you gave me so much anxiety. Good content nevertheless!

  • @titanbaron4516
    @titanbaron4516 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the few scattered clips of music from Medieval 2 Total War lol

  • @kunovondodenburg3332
    @kunovondodenburg3332 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    30:43 Jackie Fish ! Back into formation !

  • @jaimegoncalves9257
    @jaimegoncalves9257 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the Eagle rising books!

  • @joahnaut
    @joahnaut 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "I'm not bad at this game"
    -Plays exclusively in 3rd person
    Pressing (x) to doubt.

  • @kuzerov2123
    @kuzerov2123 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    22:40 The Empress you all gone die and its a sacrifice i'm willing to make.

  • @kalleh6400
    @kalleh6400 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    52:20 that's it i won't sleep this night.

  • @zach942
    @zach942 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i wish there was a campaign map multiple people could play on and have the ability to let players fight in player owned armies drop in/drop out or player owned armies fighting with/against each other

  • @jhnshep
    @jhnshep 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not a mount and blade fan, but Ive had fun with kingdom come and this one looks fun. also I'm gonna look into 'we are legion' : Rome, thank god for YT content creators :-D

  • @yajamanvamsikrishna509
    @yajamanvamsikrishna509 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now that's a good start

  • @patdarko3063
    @patdarko3063 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Imagine a dude in war screaming. Give me the kill !! Give me the kill..I need one to level up!!!

  • @halflinggaming7053
    @halflinggaming7053 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The queen raised her eyebrows as you said hi

  • @zePrinceOfFrance
    @zePrinceOfFrance 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    For those wondering how to make CA Rising work with the Caladria Expanded Kingdoms mod you have to download the CA Rising Patch
    I had trouble getting empire levys to show up instead of imperial servus. Realized I didn't have the proper patch to fix that.
    Link:
    www.nexusmods.com/mountandblade2bannerlord/mods/2828?tab=files&file_id=18031
    Installation instructions:
    1. Go to Mount & Blade Bannerlord II > Modules > CaladriaExpandedKingdoms
    2. Navigate to the ModuleData folder
    3. Replace the vanillaCultres.xml with the one you got from the CA Rising Patch
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Location of .xml file to replace should look like this
    D:\Steam\steamapps\common\Mount & Blade II Bannerlord\Modules\CalradiaExpandedKingdoms\ModuleData
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    You have to START A NEW CAMPAIGN for it to work.
    Load CA_EagleRising before Caladria Expanded Kingdoms
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Side note...those getting dll file failed loading errors upon launch, you need to unblock the dll files if you manually added them like me.
    Easiest way to do that if you have a lot of mods with dll files is to use windows powershell.
    just type powershell in windows search
    in the directory copy and paste all of the below
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    get-childitem "d:\Steam\steamapps\common\Mount & Blade II Bannerlordr" -recurse | unblock-file -confirm
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    afterwards type a to confirm all files
    (change disk drive letter depending on where you have steam installed i.e. c:\ , d:\ , f:\ , etc...)
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    edit: wrong link

  • @dylanbailey6965
    @dylanbailey6965 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im guessing Jackie's not familiar with warband?

  • @RolosReviews
    @RolosReviews 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Jackie, just wondering i have downloaded some mods from the nexus hub and placed them into my modules folder, but i get constant crashes. It appears to be the "Mod-Library" mod but not quite sure how to get it working? It is the latest version too. Any help would be ideal! Thanks

    • @gertoise
      @gertoise 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yup same

  • @jareda3821
    @jareda3821 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I keep getting a crash after selecting start new campaign..I've checked all version of the mods and they match yours...I'm running 1.5.9

  • @grahamperkins6835
    @grahamperkins6835 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cant get the mod list to work, do I need the updated bannerlord mod launcher

  • @xIRHiiNO
    @xIRHiiNO 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    every time i click discord link for mods, it says it doesn't exist :(

  • @connycontainer9459
    @connycontainer9459 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about no HUD mod ? Makes it harder, more immersive and pleasant to look at. Besides disabling crosshair and stuff you (which you can do ingame), it disables the health bar, so you have to judge by the blood spilled by you if you might be able to take a hit or not. Especially for this well known mod from warband where you play single soldier it puts the bar much higher as you have to judge the battle around you and not just abuse some opening in enemy defenses, because your army might very well be on the retreat without you knowing.

  • @robfus
    @robfus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Name of the mod for join an army as a soldier? Freelancer right?

  • @picklerick3358
    @picklerick3358 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro i cant get my bannerlord to update to .9 im getting pretty annoyed. Im stuck on .7

  • @donder172
    @donder172 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the name of the song in the background at the start? I remember hearing it before, but I can't find it.