Never apologize for prioritizing cost with comparable performance, I’m sorry for anyone who has ever gave you a hard time due to it, absolutely unacceptable. I got into archery as a hunting alternative for residential hunting, I personally adore Sanlida (got two recurves and the dragon x8 now) for having reasonably priced, extremely high performance bows. Never apologize for protecting your viewers wallets.
Hello Sean, I use dial indicators at my work and at home on my lathe. To do this correctly when you first set the arrow under the indicator you must 0 the dial indicator. You must also realize that the dial is going backwards. So, when the dial reads 90 thousand's it actually only moved 10 thousands. So, when the dial reads 40 thousand's it has actually moved 60 thousands. So, when you say the reading is 38 thousand like on the very first arrow 38 thousands the dial actually moved 62 thousands. It's kind of confusing until you realize the dial is going backwards, and you need to zero the dial. I hope you take the time to think about this a little. I enjoy all your videos, and I have learned a lot from you.
Thanks for the explanation. Fortunately for me the exact reading isn’t really the important piece. For my usage in locating the stiffest and weakest areas of the spine is where the needle is farthest and closest to zero. Those two points indicate stiffest and weakest sides which is what I take into consideration when deciding where to glue on the index fletch. The exact reading itself (meaning the number it produces) is not necessary for my purposes other than using the needle to see where the shaft is stiffest. If that makes sense. Either way, thanks for sharing.
Hey Sean do you know if the knocks are super glued or hot melted in? i guess you could cut past the knock if it is but i use lighted knocks to offset for high foc and etc. I wish you could just get raw shafts because i build my own thanks again!!!!
Don't sweat it, Gold Tip arrows are made in Mexico. The only arrows made in USA are Easton as far as I know. Gold Tip are my favorite arrows by far. I will have to try these Sanlida arrows though...
Another informative video that helped someone new and learning. That being said I have a 27" draw and Dragons arrows are a bit long. Should I go with a different brand to get a shorter arrow or do I buy a cutter and cut them down myself? Thanks again.
Sean, really enjoy your programs, question. do you align the broad head with the fletching? I shot a n overdraw on my Predatopr Jennings bow, 26 1/2 " arrows, have been told to align the fixed head with fletch. I resuddenly got an Sanlida dragon 8, waiting for good weather.. GOD BLESS keep them coming..
I've tried it with aligning and not aligning and my arrows flew the same but you may want to experiment with your setup to see how it behaved under both circumstances
Thanks for this review it’s so helpful. Can you please help me on figuring out what spines do i need I can’t find a chart on their websites neither amazon. I shoot 65# and 70#
They used to have charts on there. It will also depend on the type of cam, tip weight, and arrow length. However, at 65 or 70 pounds with 100 grain tip you will often be at a spine of around 300 or 340.
I bought a package of the Dragon 10 in 350 spine to try out. The arrows themselves seem great, but the pin nocks are flat out dangerous and Sanlida needs to address them. After a single shot, the tabs on the nocks flare out and no longer grip the string. This is just begging for a dry fire. Amazon reviews say I am not alone with this. If you like the Dragon 10 for the straightness and the vanes, plan on either putting a better nock on the pin or using a standard type nock to replace it entirely.
I told them to change it the second that I saw it the first time. It took some follow up but I talked them into it. They are no longer going to ship the arrows to the USA with those pin nocks. I told them to just use regular nocks so guys could easily swap them out for light up nocks for hunting but I’m not sure what they will do. They may mimic gold tips bushing and thinner diameter nock. I don’t know.
@@seansoutdoors Thanks, Sean! I'm glad they're doing the right thing. I sent them an email with pictures and measurements right after posting my initial comment, sounds like they were already on it.
That’s not actually their reason. Additionally, I told them to get rid of those nocks and use regular ones and shorter fletching and they finally did it. They no longer make the arrows this way.
It's currently the same price to buy 2 dozen Gold Tip pin nock bushings and pin nocks as it is to buy the 2-dozen pack of complete Dragon 10 arrows. Seems like a pretty easy choice. Even if you only want the pin nocks, get the Dragons and get 24 backup shafts FREE.
Got the dragon 10 arrows the aluminum pins pop right out with a insert weight rod if you want realy nice arrows real nice price getting another 24 pack crazy savings they look just like black eagles to me
I have done testing on that this year and the hours still hit the same. It is just not optimal. I also tested it with mechanical broadheads and they still hit the same, but I have not tested it with fixed blade broadheads.
Spine consistency testing is ok but you should have spun those arrows to check how consistent the straightness of each batch of arrows. Also a durability test would have been helpful
So are the sanlida dragon 10s ANY standard size inside? So that one could get different weight length inserts ect? Can the Sandila Dragon 10 Bow, Cam be tuned with spacers for center?
@seansoutdoors thanks for always answering I'm worried about this and they messaged me and told me they were out of their large cam ( I'm 31.5") models.... The arrow review is awesome $300 plus field points for the gold tip vs $79...even if you took then to a shop to check straightness ect you can choose a golden group.... Thanks SO much I wish they would send you that drop away rest they have on their website now... In thinking dragon 10, on 31.5 with a drop away decent offset dual stabilizer like you and good sight....I priced out a life ( or alpha X 33) 2600 out the door...naw
While the Gold Tip headquarters are in America, the shafts have been manufactured in Mexico for over a decade. Gold Tip makes durable arrows, but I think it's a mistake to characterize Gold Tip as a "made in America" product like Easton.
Robots do most of the work in warehouses but that being said 80% of the products are made outside of the USA 🇺🇸. No getting around the reality of our declining empire. 👍😁🏹🎯
Don't apologise for being thrifty. Ben Franklin would be proud. Sanlida has outstanding value. If I was like most Americans I wouldn't have been able to retire and would just have to whine.
Never apologize for prioritizing cost with comparable performance, I’m sorry for anyone who has ever gave you a hard time due to it, absolutely unacceptable. I got into archery as a hunting alternative for residential hunting, I personally adore Sanlida (got two recurves and the dragon x8 now) for having reasonably priced, extremely high performance bows. Never apologize for protecting your viewers wallets.
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Never apologize for backing usa-made products especially when you're taking an animal with them
Thanks a lotfor putting in the work! I think a lot of ppl don't understand spine and just assume what's on the box. Def going to grab some sanlitas
Thanks for watching
Again great job clearing up questions and reviewing alternative products I would love to see the dragon x 10 three pin sight reviewed
I just got one so I will review it when I have time
@@seansoutdoors that's awesome I will be looking forward to it
Thanks for putting in the time to do this review. Great info and comparison.
Thanks
Hello Sean, I use dial indicators at my work and at home on my lathe. To do this correctly when you first set the arrow under the indicator you must 0 the dial indicator.
You must also realize that the dial is going backwards. So, when the dial reads 90 thousand's it actually only moved 10 thousands.
So, when the dial reads 40 thousand's it has actually moved
60 thousands.
So, when you say the reading is 38 thousand like on the very first arrow 38 thousands the dial actually moved 62 thousands.
It's kind of confusing until you realize the dial is going backwards, and you need to zero the dial.
I hope you take the time to think about this a little.
I enjoy all your videos, and I have learned a lot from you.
Thanks for the explanation. Fortunately for me the exact reading isn’t really the important piece. For my usage in locating the stiffest and weakest areas of the spine is where the needle is farthest and closest to zero. Those two points indicate stiffest and weakest sides which is what I take into consideration when deciding where to glue on the index fletch. The exact reading itself (meaning the number it produces) is not necessary for my purposes other than using the needle to see where the shaft is stiffest. If that makes sense. Either way, thanks for sharing.
Just so you understand what you're reading as weaker is actually stiffer.
I'm really just trying to help.
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Hey Sean do you know if the knocks are super glued or hot melted in? i guess you could cut past the knock if it is but i use lighted knocks to offset for high foc and etc. I wish you could just get raw shafts because i build my own thanks again!!!!
They seem super glued in because I tried heating them up and pulling them out but it didn’t work. I just cut them off instead
Don't sweat it, Gold Tip arrows are made in Mexico. The only arrows made in USA are Easton as far as I know. Gold Tip are my favorite arrows by far. I will have to try these Sanlida arrows though...
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Another informative video that helped someone new and learning. That being said I have a 27" draw and Dragons arrows are a bit long. Should I go with a different brand to get a shorter arrow or do I buy a cutter and cut them down myself? Thanks again.
All arrows will come full length and will need to be cut to size. It is best if you have a pro shop nearby that could cut them for you.
Once again very informative video
..love em.
What would be your go to lighted nocks for Gold Tip?
Thank you
God Bless
I used to use nocturnals but then they stopped.flying right so I stopped using them and have not tried anything lately to see if anything works.
Thanks for the effort
You're welcome
Sean, really enjoy your programs, question. do you align the broad head with the fletching? I shot a
n overdraw on my Predatopr Jennings bow, 26 1/2 " arrows, have been told to align the fixed head with fletch. I resuddenly got an Sanlida dragon 8, waiting for good weather.. GOD BLESS keep them coming..
I've tried it with aligning and not aligning and my arrows flew the same but you may want to experiment with your setup to see how it behaved under both circumstances
Thanks for this review it’s so helpful. Can you please help me on figuring out what spines do i need I can’t find a chart on their websites neither amazon. I shoot 65# and 70#
They used to have charts on there. It will also depend on the type of cam, tip weight, and arrow length. However, at 65 or 70 pounds with 100 grain tip you will often be at a spine of around 300 or 340.
@@seansoutdoors thanks for the response.
I bought a package of the Dragon 10 in 350 spine to try out. The arrows themselves seem great, but the pin nocks are flat out dangerous and Sanlida needs to address them. After a single shot, the tabs on the nocks flare out and no longer grip the string. This is just begging for a dry fire. Amazon reviews say I am not alone with this. If you like the Dragon 10 for the straightness and the vanes, plan on either putting a better nock on the pin or using a standard type nock to replace it entirely.
I told them to change it the second that I saw it the first time. It took some follow up but I talked them into it. They are no longer going to ship the arrows to the USA with those pin nocks. I told them to just use regular nocks so guys could easily swap them out for light up nocks for hunting but I’m not sure what they will do. They may mimic gold tips bushing and thinner diameter nock. I don’t know.
@@seansoutdoors Thanks, Sean! I'm glad they're doing the right thing. I sent them an email with pictures and measurements right after posting my initial comment, sounds like they were already on it.
They leave the fletch foward so you can cut the micro insert off and use a standard nock
That’s not actually their reason. Additionally, I told them to get rid of those nocks and use regular ones and shorter fletching and they finally did it. They no longer make the arrows this way.
It's currently the same price to buy 2 dozen Gold Tip pin nock bushings and pin nocks as it is to buy the 2-dozen pack of complete Dragon 10 arrows. Seems like a pretty easy choice. Even if you only want the pin nocks, get the Dragons and get 24 backup shafts FREE.
👍
Got the dragon 10 arrows the aluminum pins pop right out with a insert weight rod if you want realy nice arrows real nice price getting another 24 pack crazy savings they look just like black eagles to me
Cool I'll give that a try!
Will a standard nock fit in the dragon 10 if I cut the pin nock off?? Did you measure the internal diameter??
Yes standard nock fits . I did not measure it I just pushed a standard nock in and it was a perfect fit
@@seansoutdoors awesome, what a bargain.Thanks
so would the left helical shoot different out of a Hoyt or Mathews or similar bows compared to a 1 or 2 degree right helical fletched arrow?
I have done testing on that this year and the hours still hit the same. It is just not optimal. I also tested it with mechanical broadheads and they still hit the same, but I have not tested it with fixed blade broadheads.
Spine consistency testing is ok but you should have spun those arrows to check how consistent the straightness of each batch of arrows. Also a durability test would have been helpful
I was leaving those topics for you to cover 😀. I don't want to hog up all the good content. 😁
So are the sanlida dragon 10s ANY standard size inside? So that one could get different weight length inserts ect?
Can the Sandila Dragon 10 Bow, Cam be tuned with spacers for center?
Seem standard.
I did shim my bottom cam on mine. It helped a little
@seansoutdoors thanks for always answering I'm worried about this and they messaged me and told me they were out of their large cam ( I'm 31.5") models....
The arrow review is awesome $300 plus field points for the gold tip vs $79...even if you took then to a shop to check straightness ect you can choose a golden group....
Thanks SO much I wish they would send you that drop away rest they have on their website now...
In thinking dragon 10, on 31.5 with a drop away decent offset dual stabilizer like you and good sight....I priced out a life ( or alpha X 33) 2600 out the door...naw
Yeah, the arrows seem like a good deal to me. I would like to try their drop away rest. We will see if they send me one or not. God bless you.
Can i get sablida arrows shafts naked?
Not at this time, I don't think
I believe u need a stiffer spine also I like heavy arrows
I get 340s.to.tune.just fine for me. Been doing it for decades.
@seansoutdoors I'm just saying if u are using a heavy setup u need a stiffer spine...u should look into the sirius arrows or day six
While the Gold Tip headquarters are in America, the shafts have been manufactured in Mexico for over a decade. Gold Tip makes durable arrows, but I think it's a mistake to characterize Gold Tip as a "made in America" product like Easton.
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Robots do most of the work in warehouses but that being said 80% of the products are made outside of the USA 🇺🇸. No getting around the reality of our declining empire. 👍😁🏹🎯
Thanks for watching brother
Don't apologise for being thrifty. Ben Franklin would be proud. Sanlida has outstanding value. If I was like most Americans I wouldn't have been able to retire and would just have to whine.
Thanks!
I would say those Dragon arrows would be great for kids. Nobody else.
Do you have some or are you just saying that? I personally think they are fine.
Gold tip are made in Mexico so your fine
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