Swan Princess - Nostalgia Critic
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- This isn't my idea of fun. The Nostalgia Critic reviews 1994's Swan Princess.
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“She started out as such an ugly duckling”
What? She was beautiful the entire time....
Beautiful and nothing else.
@@w.centerprisesbluestar8603 😭😭😂😂
Derek's a fucken dweeb. This is awkward Disney with a bland Odette and a lame-ass douche prince.
OK we can understand that he wasn't attracted to her when they were kids, precisely because they were ...kids. But in their early teenage years, 'cause puberty and all, he should have started to realize it. Plus she seemed to have more personality when she was younger
I know love is blind but ctfo!!
Rogers: "She says, "Is beauty all that matters?" and you say "what else *is* there?""
Derek: "It was dumb, I know."
Rogers: "You should write a book: How to Offend Women in Five Syllables or Less."
Rogers is THE BEST.
I agree.
Roght
Yasssss
Shohna- Indeed Rogers was the best. Derek's mom had her moments too.
5:31 Look Odette makes Derek's hise jump. It's the middle ages. Love is like an appeitizer.
Can we talk a second about the fact that absolutely NO ONE seems concerned about Odette's father death ? Not even Odette herself cares the slightest about him. I mean, he forced her in a relationship with Derek all her life so maybe she wasn't very fond of him, but come one !
Aye. Theres an entire kingdom that just lost its (presumably) beloved King to a ruthless murder and kidnapping. Hell, even with the tarnished reputation the Royal Family in our world has, people were still sad when the Queen passed away. And that was a natural death, not a literal assassination
True, but then again the king was pretty non specific about the great animal's identity, so no wonder everyone is glad he is dead.
Yep! I thought about that too, but was like oh well… lol
It would have been such a better movie if they kept their personalities as a child. Even if Derek only liked Odette for her beauty, this could actually work. Make it that Odette has a little crush on Derek when they were kids and Derek only changing his mind about marrying her when she's all grown up. Derek can do that whole: "Is there anything else than beauty" thing and she rejects him.
Cut to the imposter Odette, who is equally beautiful, but she's very docile and princessy through the whole ball. And Derek notices that something is strange, because he doesn't feel the same way as he did before. Yes, this girl's beautiful, but that seems to be it? Let him have second thoughts about the whole 'announce your true love to the world', because he isn't sure if his feelings for her are still there. And later on, when the real Odette appears, he realizes that he loved Odette for her personality.
Wow, I really liked your version, it's much more logical and just nice and accurate! And it's still an interpretation of "The Swan Lake".
Sounds better
Or have Derek turn into a villian.
@@Dinosaurianationazation id watch that ngl
And look at that, a usable plot that still feels like it took months to come up with, yet it was five minutes. God, why is this hard for other people that say they try.
How could he not mention Roger; literally the best character.
“You should write a book- ‘How to Offend Women in Five Syllables or Less.”
I aspired to be like Roger and I've now achieved that goal
It's TRUE plus
1. He spent every single summer for as long as he can remember with her
2. I can point out a bunch of things about her
First example:in the first song number of the movie she takes down his entire treehouse in one kick. HOW DO YOU NOT REMEMBER THAT
Probably the best line in the movie
“Not you Wesley, you’re a RRRRRABBIT for heavens sake!”
You mean Lord Rogers.
Wait wait wait. There's something that is NEVER addressed in the movie. After king william died and odette went missing...WHO THE FUCK IS RULING KING WILLIAMS KINGDOM?!
I kind of assumed the Queen just kind of absorbed it into hers or was declared Lord Paramount. It's never said but it's kind of clear she's running the show now.
So then if the kingdoms became combined anyway, why did Derek and Odette need to get married?
His council/advisors?
+PrimaryOctopus That's a good point. Even if he's the king, he doesn't control everything, especially daily stuff. His bureaucracy would be fine by themselves for a few days at least.
+King Keegster Yeah, I did a bit of research a while back when Frozen came out and people were wondering who ruled the kingdom until Elsa was of age. I figured there must be some back-up plan for those situations. It looks like what would usually happen is either the council or a relative takes over until the heir is of age.
The thing of the fake Odette dancing with the prince to get him to marry her was in the original ballet... It was just Rothbart's daughter instead.
Not saying the movie's good, but it didn't steal that from Disney.
You believe the old hag older than rothbart is his daughter? Shes his henchwoman
@@cheyennerolling224 No, what they meant was in the ballet of Swan Lake, which is what this film is based around, his daughter is an evil sorceress child name Odyle and she does the same thing to seduce the prince and make him break his vow without realizing it. This is actually the story behind the film The Black Swan. For whatever reason they decided to make him in this movie have just a henchperson, instead of a beautiful daughter.
What is funny is the Barbie version did that as well
The movie never explained why Odette suddenly loves Derek after she turned him down. I guess Odette decided to fall in love with Derek later in the movie because I guess she feels that her being married to a prince is definitely way better than being stuck with Rothbart, even if Derek only loved her for her looks.
Derek had BDE. Big Derek energy.
Odette always loved Derek. She even said in the film "I want him to love me for me". She loved Derek but she she had to make sure that he loved her for so much more just like how she loved him, like when she says "I see him smiling and me knees start buckling, I see Inside him and my doubts are gone"
Maybe it's like Odette then sees the good in Derek as hope for she can be with him when he grew to be smart and nice as her that he could learn from her when the experience put thier love for each other to the test with Rothbart in the way although she desperately needs
Him to break her curse but seems she truly loves him because he was being there for her in a kind caring way.
I feel like she settled for him because she had no other option or choice. Hell they only hung out because their families wanted them to get married.
I like to imagine that Odette's mind got fucked up after seeing her father get killed, so she suddenly latched onto her father's last desire (her to fall in love with and marry Derek) as a form of post traumatic stress.
BluePenguin200
That's better than the entire plot of this movie
I always figured it was more of a "Derek HAS to be my true love! Seeing as he's literally the only eligible man in my life..." situation, but I like your idea a lot more.
That...actually sounds pretty believable (and incredibly tragic).
The King: Odette is... Odead
Derek: Your Majesty this is no time for puns
SHUT UP DEREK!!! YOUR LIFE IS ONE BIG UNINTENTIONAL PUN!!!
he’s odead people who see the body will say oshit
@@DisneyLord371 then he died, with no regrets
Queen of Hearts: Off with their heads!
Maleficent: Now you shall deal with me oh prince, and all the forces of Hell!
Ursula: So much for true love!
Gaston: It's over Beast. Belle is mine!
Jafar: Perhaps you'd like to see how snake like I can be.
Scar: Long live the king.
Frollo: And he shall smite the wicked and plunge them into the firey pit.
Facilier: Shake my hand. C'mon boys won't you shake a poor sinners hand.
Gothel: You want me to be the bad guy? Fine. Now I'm the bad guy.
Hans: If only there was someone out there who loved you.
Rothbart: I'm gonna eat everyone else's lunches.
Diabolical.
Wow. Stealing people's lunches. No Disney villain could ever hope to be as diabolical as Rothbart.
I think Jafar's oughtta be "The whole universe is MINE to command! To CONTROL!"
Even Tamatoa singing about how shiny he is is more badass
@@Retrodove101 Are you forgetting all the Disney villains that *are* school bullies?
Roger was best character
"You should write a book, how to offend women in five syllables or less"
Right?? xD
Am I the only one who read that line in the voice of Roger from Family guy? just me? m'kay 0_0
@@chaoticpoet8992ok
@disneylord3713 you mean from American Dad?
I never even noticed that until now lmao
"Arrange the marriage? They've been arranging it practically since you were a sperm!"
im laugh i ng
shaina I think he was referring to the actual ceremony.
"Why can't you just get stockholm syndrom like everyone else I've brought here. I had the turtle ready to marry me in a week!" DYING!
LMAO. XD.
Alda Mørkøre Nielsdóttir l
Best line ever that should of been in the movie seriously
This movie doesn’t understand that loving someone’s looks and loving someone as a person is different.
It started to, but then it gave up on that.
@@kimifw58 Roger is the small smidge of proof of that
What is wrong With loving someone s looks
@@cossintanlogee I don't suppose you've seen Shallow Hal?
@@liampatrick3110 I think there’s a difference between finding your partner physically attractive, and only loving them because they’re attractive to you.
ODETTE - IS O’DEAD’ -
* BADUMTIS *
I DIED .
I love that part of the review LOL 6:03
Odette is --------- O'Debt.....
Edit: I know that's dumb, but so is the movie so who cares really!
Odette oded
Funny thing is when I was a little kid I thought her name was Odead and wondered why she had that word in her name!😂
Wasn’t till I got a little bit older was when I learned it was Odette! Certainly made sense!😂
😂😂
3:59 "But then quite out of nowhere, they suddenly love each other"
It is called the magic of puberty.
I just have learned that when a couple admits their love in the first 15 minute of a movie something is going to destroy that relationship, just on principle.
To be honest, Derek kinda start to be interested in Odette in his teens...
"A tap dancing sorcerer who wants to steal lunch money" Sound like my next D&D character.
Kevin Klingensmith What is your D&D character?
Would probably be a hell of a lot more entertaining than this entire movie
Ha
@Rebecca Sher Dungeons & Dragons
A goblin sorcerer that loves dancing!
I admit that I may have some childhood nostalgia goggles, but the Duck repeatedly being shot when everyone yells "Duck" is one of the funniest gags I've ever seen.
"No, the goose must be plump and tender. Like a swan!"
"Okay, swan it is."
If the parents want to join their lands so bad, why wouldn't they just get married? They seem to get along. And it would save a lot of time
They have there own partners and I bet they could not divorce because you couldn’t back then
But the film didn't show the parent's spouses, so this really add the plot holes.
If the queen and king get married would that make Odette and Derek siblings then though???
Or am I wrong?
Wishbear 4444 half siblings but yes
MonsterHunter 66 step siblings actually, half siblings would be if they shared one biological parent, so if they had the same biological mother but different fathers and vice versa then they would be half siblings but if its two kids who weren't originally related and became siblings out of their parents marring each other then their step siblings
"She started out as such an ugly duckling"
I had to pause the video I was laughing so hard at that part
Anthony Cinque Derek was already making Dad jokes before he even got married
"She started out as such an ugly duckling, and somehow suddenly became a swan."
It's called puberty, dude.
Anthony Cinque.......For some reason i saw your Jotaro Comment
They didn't hate each other in their early teens. They started developing crushes. Thus the line "I think you sort of like her, fess up". Derek was getting jealous when she was flirting with the guards.
"happily, a daughter was born" i *highly* doubt that
I think the script just said “(Happily:) A daughter was born.” And the narrator misread it
@@Grim_Sister lol I never thought of that before!
As a child, I didn't care too much about logic, and absolutely loved this movie. I saw the lion king once or twice but the swan princess about 50 times
Lapna Xerio I loved The Master of Disguise as a kid
exactly
People had way more suspension of disbelief and did not care about logic and realism even close as much as people do now in the old days in general in movies, TV shows, comics and other things and not only with stuff made for children.
I think I like it because of all the supporting characters. It didn't feel like a movie about them at all. I also fucking loved the turtle. If you don't watch it and only listening to his dialog you picture a more charismatic Eeyore.
What did I miss it's only been a few hours I have never been this famous before
Ah the classic "nineties cartoon prince haircut". Me and my sister actually called it "princehair" when we were kids..
He litterally looks like a humanized playmobil doll.
That was a common hairstyle for princes back then. Still looks silly.
I call it the Farquaad
@@AnakinTheWeird same here
My family refer to it as the 'Prince Valiant Cut'
"We're Not Disney. No Matter How Hard We Try To Make It Look We'll Never Be Disney"
"I'll intend to eat their lunches!".
(Gasps) YOU MONSTER!
The woman who voiced Odette, Michelle Nicastro, died from breast cancer in 2010, age 50. The woman who sung as Odette's singing voice is none other than Liz Callaway, who was also the singing voice for Princess Jasmine in The Return of Jafar, and Princess Kiara in Lion King 2. Just throwing some facts out there.
EDIT: Lea Salonga did the voice of Jasmine in the original Aladdin movie.
The signing voice for Jasmin was Lea Salonga.
Craftwork Orange
Excuse me. She was the singing voice of Princess Jasmine in the 2nd and 3rd movies.
v torry
Yes! You know, I don't recall watching that. If I did, it was a long, long time ago.
Sweet! I THOUGHT Liz Callaway's name sounded familiar! Mind blown! :) I already knew about Odette's voice actor though and it completely breaks my heart this movie and Odette were my childhood. ;(
Wow! Really?! Another mind blown! :) Liz Callaway surely is extremely talented! :)
The "Your beauty and nothing else" jokes are the best things out of this review. XD
This needs to be a meme, like "Taste the rainbow, Motherf*cker" back then.
For those who are wondering what’s going on at 11:35, the video originally played a clip of the Taunting French Guard, a role John Cleese played from Monty Python and the Holy Grail. I assume the clip was taken down for copyright reasons. I believe this is the clip used: “I fart in your general direction! Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!”
TH-cam needs to knock this shit off!!
The silence is funnier in my opinion for some reason
The ball scene, and the witch taking the form of Odette isn't a copy of The Little mermaid. The original Swan lake tale has that.
I always thought it was weird that the wizard who can literally turn anything into anything else and freaking alter the fabric of reality on command would need such an overly elaborate and infinitely complicated plan to take over a kingdom...dude, summon a few dragons and rain fiery death down upon whatever kingdom you want to rule...not that hard a thing to accomplish when you're the only magic user in said kingdom.
His plan is literally a Tom and Jerry plan. It doesn't work out in any scenario. Why doesn't he just summon a lava golem to helonhim conquer the kingdom?
Well he basically claimed he didn't want to have to look over his shoulder for assassins for the rest of his life if he took the kingdom by force, but that still leaves about a hundred other things wrong with his plan.
clericofchaos1 he could've made his own kingdom though even exactly like the one he wanted
True enough. This guy has untold power, magic and ability....and this was his plan to take over the kingdom? What?
You murdered the king it's not like legality is a bit issue for you. Just turn your lackey into a dragon and take over already!
FlareKnight
One has to admit that trying to avoid the "spending the rest of my life fighting heroes trying to take back the kingdom" idea was actually refreshing, if only his actual plan to do so made any sense.
Swans are one of the few animals that die when the lose their mate (love of their life). It is not the spell killing her, it is the nature of the form. Rothbart is just a jerk. Even defeating him makes sense with that context, the plan is screwed anyway might as well just go for the warlord plan, and take both kingdoms, what with both of their lines ended.
dangrus123 swans are also scary. He literally turns her into a killer bird, bite his ass.
That's adressed in the story. Odette asks why he doesn't just conquer the kingdom by force, and he states he wants something to legitimize his rule (i.e. a royal marriage) so that he doesn't have to live in fear of assassination or rebellion as a usurper.
That's adressed in the story. Odette asks why he doesn't just conquer the kingdom by force, and he states he wants something to legitimize his rule (i.e. a royal marriage) so that he doesn't have to live in fear of assassination or rebellion as a usurper.
@@jamestown8398 The movie would have been better had Odette told him: "Ooooh, no one told you, did they? Being the legitimate ruler doesn't protect you from assassination or rebellion".
Dang Derek likes Odette's appearance so much that he doesn't even notice that something was off with her impersonator at the ball😭😭
Like no "You seem different tonight" or anything😂😭
What annoyed me about this film was Odette was upset because he only loved her because she was pretty but we heard no reason as to why she loved him and I got the impression it was only because he was handsome....... so pot/kettle much?
I think she was impressed by how his manners had changed from a violent, awful guy to someone that seemed okay now and seemed like a normal human.
She already kindof liked him before, but he kept on dissappointing her. This time, the chance seemed smaller that he would.
"Odette is....Odette"
Maybe she is the great animal.
Sativa Indica “Odette is....Odead”
The whole quote is "Odette is... Odette... Is gone."
Odette is... Beautiful and not much else!
6:03 It sounded like he said 'Odette is Odead' hahahaha
DementorsKiss BAHAHAHAHHA
DementorsKiss Thank you, I will never be able to see that scene with a straight face ever again. XD
DementorsKiss
HOLY FUCKING SHIT MY SIDES-
wait.. you mean he didn't actually say Odead?
For some reason I laughed at that scene when I was little....am I a psycho? O_O
When Princess Odette got kidnapped, her dying father told Prince Derek that it was a "great animal" that took Odette.
Why couldn't he just say "it was a giant bat" (because that's what Rothbart turned into),
That way, Derek would know exactly what he was looking for and wouldn't go around the forest randomly shooting animals praying he'd get the right one. He even tried to shoot Odette simply because he had no idea what he was looking for.
Is "great animal" simply an idiom for "giant big-ass bat" and I just didnt know about it?
I like to think he's just really stupid or just so sheltered he's never seen a bat before.
I wish Animaniacs took a jab at this movie. And before anyone says "They're both Warner Bros, the studio wouldn't allow it", they poked fun at Space Jam in one episode.
With Animaniacs, ANYTHING was fair game.
@@devanhinskey9001I still wish the reboot took on Twilight. It would be almost as funny as the Friends episode.
Fun fact: This movie was brought to you by the same person behind the Alpha and Omega series.
AT Productions
To be fair, he's named Richard Rich. What the hell do you expect from someone with that name?
huh
ProbeVoyages that series made less and less sense. The first movie was alright, the sequels were awful
BAYAR3AB3AST wait, there's more than one movie
ProbeVoyages is it just me or do these seem surprisingly the same
I can't believe I never thought of how to change the plot before. To win all Rothbart had to do was:
1. Kill Odette
2. Turn his assistant into an Odette look-alike
3. Present his assistant to Odette's father's kingdom
4. Marry "Odette" to make himself king.
5. Fake his assistant's death so that the ruse is never exposed.
6. Profit - Because he now has an entire kingdom under his control.
And even if he wanted to continue
7. Seduce Derek's mother and marry her and if that doesn't work replace her with his assistant
8. Kill Derek
9. Kill Derek's mother or fake his assistant's death again like last time if he had to go that route
10. Profit even more - Because now he has two kingdoms and still has that nice summer retreat
Still want to continue?
11. Form the mages guild or whatever you want to call it to teach the dark arts to others
12. Form an army of magic users
13. Conquer the world while adhering to The Evil Overlord List
14. Profit infinity - Because he rules the world of course
Edit: Wow. So many likes and comments. And such an old comment too and still getting comments. Thank you.
I guess I must create a sequel?
15. Derek faked his death and covertly joins the mage guild.
16. Derek seduces, backstabs and anti-heroes his way up the ranks like a badass to get close to Rothbart while inadvertently developing a personality and a character. Maybe gets a sexy woman along the way.
17. After conquering another kingdom for Rothbart and subjugating its people Derek finally is in the position to take his revenge against Rothbart.
18. Things don't go according to plan but Derek is still barely able to pull off the assassination on Rothbart. Derek's sexy woman dies though.
19. Derek takes Rothbart's place as ruler of the mage guild because he's not naive anymore and knows just letting the mages of the mage guild do as they wish would be a disaster. He even goes so far as to disguise himself as Rothbart and pretend Rothbart had killed him.
20. Derek continues annexing surrounding kingdoms because he now sees how ass backwards feudal kingdoms are. Partly thanks to Rothbart's tutelage and also observing it for himself when he first infiltrated and conquered a kingdom for Rothbart.
21. After a bit of time Derek realizes he's become exactly like Rothbart. He comes to regret killing Rothbart and views him as the father he never had.
22. Rothbart reveals his death was greatly exaggerated. He knew Derek was there all along and after perfecting aging reversal through permanent transformation he had his most loyal assistant play the part of Derek's sexy woman and also faked her death.
23. After a struggle with Rothbart Derek surrenders and becomes Rothbart's right hand man. Derek also gets back with his sexy lady. (Some will find that disturbing but oh well.)
24. Some nut writes some fanfiction of Derek bringing Odette back to life with magic. But that can't be cannon because Derek realizes that Odette really was, "Beautiful and nothing else."
O_O Wow. That is a brilliant evil scheme. Maybe Rothbart was too dumb to figure that out.
Thanks :) Only took me ten seconds to come up with that one. It wasn't too hard since Rothbart had the means already.
Brainstorm Surge Your welcome. Mwahahaha. :D
[Insert shitty "Instructions Unclear" joke here]
Brainstorm Surge Let me edit the 14th one a bit
14. Profit infinity - Because he rules the world.
M. Bison: OF COURSE!!!
One thing I never understood, was how Odette was so angry at Derek for only loving her for her looks. As though she didn't suddenly go from hating him to sticking her tongue down his throat because she found him attractive as an adult.
I think, had he asked her to come up with a good reason for loving him, she could've said; 'Well..back in the day, I did not enjoy your violent shenanigans and I found you offensive, but I can see how much you've grown and I think I am now ready to allow myself to love you, more than that little crush I had in the beginning.."
Rather than; "Your pants looks tight and I wonder what's in them." or "I see you have muscles now."
@@Widdekuu91 How could she have seen how he's grown??? They only turned around on each other because they saw the other was cute. Odette's problem was that Derek wanted to marry her right away. All she said was "wait", she didn't say that she didn't want to marry him. She wanted to get to know him better before committing to a marriage.
Come to think of it, what does Odette suddenly see in Derek when they meet again as adults? She asks what Derek sees in her other than her beauty, but what's there that suddenly attracted her to him in return? Both of them seem equally devoid of personality as adults so I can't imagine there is anything for her to latch onto other than his looks as well.
She’s a woman. 🤷🏾♂️
Middle ages man.
But i think the only explanation for why they act dull as adult is maturity reasons and "Learning etiquette". But its a very basic movie formula, you will most likely outgrow it after age of 6 like you will with Teletubbies.
Honestly, Barbie's adaptation of Swan Lake was handled better.
MacKenzie B. Yes and I’m one of the few people that likes the older barbie movies. Swan lake, nutcracker, princess and the pauper, rapunzel, etc.
Barbie Swan Lake's Odette had better chemistry with the prince than this one.
@Flora Fauna Yeah but it's not an adaptation as far as I can tell.
🙃 sarcasm emoji from me
@@thenarnianhufflepuff6077 I fucking love the older Barbie movies
I would argue the turtle's voice does fit in a sense. It sounds slow and tired, much like a turtle
And of course kids aren't going to know or care who the actor is or what he does so I don't know why Critic got so upset at that. I think it fits too.
Me too. Slow, kind and maybe just a little pessimistic is how I imagine the voice of a turtle
@Ahanna Ngwangu when you make a statement like this, maybe you should prove your point.
The turtle's voice would match a jaded turtle who tells you off, not a charity guy raising koney for whatever cause down the street who happens to be a turtle.
M. A. Ramazani
Still Mr Steven Alexander Wright the voice for Speed the Turtle needs learn how to lighten up on his 'comedy' and stop being such a tired slow lazy dry deadpanned loser woser! Besides it would be 101% better if he played something else like a slug or a snail!
Suicidal Salamander
*shows a salmon*
You need to get your eyes checked.
I mean, at least the alliteration still checks out lol.
Also, is that kind of type-casting really something most critics would focus on?
Never thought I’d see a goanimater commenting on a nostalgic critic video
@@ethancogo3021 Hey, buddy. I’m not all GoAnimate, you know.
I know that it’s just I watch goanimate all the time
Admittedly Rogers the music conductor was the best character... “You should write a book: How to offend women in 5 syllables or less.”
That ugly duckling line always pissed me off.
CountessJJ have you seen baby swans? for me even cutier than ducklings O_O
@cynthia: I agree. I never understood the Ugly Duckling story; baby swans are friggin' adorable (sadly, like all waterfowl, they more or less grow up to become incredibly violent).
I can guess compared to ducklings baby swans are not SO cute, but still adorable
The Ugly Duckling thought he was ugly because he grew up in a family of ducks. The ugly part was because he was different. Everyone, including himself, thought he was a duck. It was when he grew up that he discovered that he was actually a swan
I was able to get close to a mother goose sitting on her nest. I just sat at a far away distance for awhile and moved closer when the mother goose realized I posed no threat to her or her children. Heck, she even moved from her spot and gave me a beautiful view of her three eggs! Still have the picture to this day.
Impostor Odette was part of the original musical so that wasn't a deliberate copy of the little mermaid.
I couldn't remember how to spell ballet so I said musical.
In his defence, he's obviously not into ballet and doesn't know that much about it, so how is he meant to know.
Still, he should have made his research about the movie's backstory. It takes a two second google search to find out it was based of a godamed ballet from the 19th century!
Meggy15 Well Disney obviously copied the original and this movie is trying it o be Disney. So, it still works.
Eilidh Macleod in the ballet its the black swan even though it’s usually the same dancer but it’s a different character
"I like his other French performance better"
*awkward silence
Damn you, TH-cam! *shakes fist
“I WILL NEVER FORGET YOUR BEAUTY AND NOTHING ELSE!”
Those dislikes are from this movie's fanbase.
And I thought Quest for Camelot was bad.
All 3
Matthew Cool fanbase? This movie has fans?
Yep. Everyone of them disliked. Twice.
+Yang Xiao Long
I know, it's baffling, right?
Then again, some people disliked the reviews of Norm of the North.
So, things come in many surprises.
"The great animal It's not what it seems, is Rothbart in disguise!" It wasn't that hard, was it.
Pedro Perez no it was chuck testa
Pedro Perez Shut up, bitch.
Maybe despite dying from his wounds, he couldn't say Rothbart without thinking Derek wouldn't take it seriously.
It would give him more to go on than something vague like "a great animal!". If he said Rothbart then Derek would ask who that was an everyone in the kingdom would tell him. An evil sorcerer who was banished for trying to take over the kingdom. There, simple.
I was going for a:
King: A sorcerer, his name, Rothbart.
Derek: Seriously, what's the sorcerer's name!?
I will say that the film actually had a princess asking “Thank you but what else besides my looks do you like?” Like point blank. Also that line “You should write a book: ‘How To Offend Women In 5 Syllables Or Less’.” Is fucking hilarious 😂
I have mixed feelings about this. Its animation isn't bad, but it's padded with tons of filler, and it was CLEARLY trying to be Disney. The shot of Sigfried-- I mean Derek (seriously, they got Odette and Rothbart right, why'd they change his name?) cutting through brambles on a horse was the most blatant rip off. I might have liked it though, if it weren't for one thing:
I am disappointed... no, disturbed!... no, APPALLED by the utter LACK of Tchaikovsky in this film! "The music should be soft and graceful, like a swan!" *Op. 20 proceeds not to play*
And on that note, some things in this film actually did come from the ballet. The name Rothbart, for instance, is from the actual ballet. The scheme to send an evil woman disguised as Odette is also from the actual ballet, so it's actually NOT a Disney rip off. Other than that, there's not much of Swan Lake in it.
I think they changed his name because it would have been hard for children to pronounce.
Why didn't Odette's father and Derek's mother just get married if they wanted to join their lands together and were worried about the future ruling of the kingdom? They clearly got along very well, their significant others seemed to be dead, they didn't have to worry about making an heir together because they each had a child, and it wasn't uncommon to marry or remarry for political or financial reasons. Marrying for love is a VERY recent affair in the grand scheme of human social history.
he was already old when Odette was born, and his wife died then. And the queen already had grey hair, so we can assume that she was past menopause. So it would be better for the two young ones to marry and bear children than have them be siblings in law.
Cause Derek's mom already likes Rogers. It is like a thing you notice if you grew up watching the first 3 movies and why I assume she did not marry the King. Although now that I am an adult I have asked the same question
I remember thinking this as a child. Why didn't the parents just get married. Especially since they spent 3 months of the year together for at least 16-20 years.
Yeah... medieval inheritance laws, here's what would have happened: after the queen died all her kingdom would be for derek, and after the king died, unless there was a consagnancy law, it would have been inherited by... idfk who since medieval law was a clusterfuck, *try playing crusader kings and understand me*
The problem is that the point is to have an heir that binds both kingdoms together -- both King William and Queen Uberta already have heirs that could fight for the throne if their parents had another child. Not to mention that Uberta is probably too old to have a child.
To be fair, on the sudden love thing. Derek seemed to like her as soon as she became a teenager, that jealousy when she was flirting with the guards. Odette on the other hand, had completely stopped caring about him by then... Maybe love potions?
MsLilly200 Actually, that makes a lot of sense. "She's always flirting with the castle guards". I'm now like "Dude, why do you care? I thought you didn't like her. "
I noticed that as well. You could tell he was jealous when she was flirting, if he didn't like her then why would he even be jealous? His friend even says that he suspects that Derek actually likes Odette.Odette herself...well, she still comes off as randomly being in love with Derek. There's nothing to suggest or support that she liked him beforehand. She really did appear like she couldn't care less about him so how is she in love with him?
I think the idea is that they grew up together and that's how they got to know one another. However, pre-puberty they pretty much were just aggravated kids who hated each other. Puberty hit, and then, Derek's feeling began to change but he didn't really know what to make of it, as most teens do. It wasn't until they were young adults that it bloomed into love.
I think that maybe they did hate each other when they were little, but once they became a bit older, it was probably the usual tsundere kid thing. AKA "I bully and pretend I hate the person I like." It's also possible that they liked each other but didn't admit it or realize it until they both became hot...
MsLilly200 r
Fun Fact: Disney was actually working on their own adaptation of Swan Lake but got canceled because of this film.
Let that sink in.
I’d Rather be a Gorgeous Swan Any Day of The Week,Being Human Kinda Sucks
My one beef with this movie is Derek's hair.
When you're about to make a Galivant reference until you realize the person said Valiant.
Well I kind of wanted to make that Galivant reference... which I kinda already did... I guess it's a neutral thing. GAAALIVAAANT!!!
oh c'mon, its the medieval times. Do you want him to have Justin Bieber's hair?
I think he looks more like a brunette He-Man.
...actually, so does his face. Make his jaw a bit flatter and you can't tell them apart.
HE-MAN! And the masters of the weird bowl-cuts and arrows!!!!
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Natasha Johnson it just looks like something out of the Disney handbook.
Derpy Bear how much for Anastasia?
Aquarius20111+ SO TRUE. I ONCE WATCHED A GUESS THAT DISNEY SONG VIDEO, AND IT HAD A SONG FROM ANASTASIA, AND I YELLED AT THE TV "THAT'S NOT DISNEY, THAT'S 20TH CENTURY FOX!".
AshKirby omg I hate that.
Isn't the climax technically ripping off sleeping beauty I think that's why they called him "the great animal" not a dragon
I interpreted that more as a bat. Which is funny, because Jack Palance was in BATMAN and at the climax of THIS movie he becomes....a bat-man.
@@SeasideDetective2 that's actually kinda clever.
Well I feel like "great animal" is a very medieval way of describing a creature, so I think it fits
No one:
Absolutely no one:
Not a single soul:
Rothbart: I wIlL eAt ThEiR lUnChEs
@Madison Starr lol
Every chip you own, every egg you love, will be MINE.
"He disappears during the day doing nothing... Why doesn't he do something?" That was one of the funniest parts for me
18:45 I only noticed it now but the mother of Derek. In that frame of her...she is just a head. They didn't animated her shoulders in.
She looks like Marie Antoinette, so maybe there's a hidden meaning to that xD
I'M ACTUALLY CRYING BECAUSE OF THIS, THANK YOU
OH MY GOD XDDDD
I almost died of laughter, I've never noticed that before XD
One of my favorite video game quotes is from Miitopia: "Do you think there is a princess in that castle? Nah, they are always in another castle."
A vow of everlasting love and prove it to the world, sounds like a wedding to me??
6:07 odette is...odead
KilljoyAlienGirl483 I get it
pFFFT-
Sadly I'm afraid the real Odette the voice actress is
Clara Scott yes, Michelle Nicastro passed away from breast cancer
@@FoxieRoxie365 very sad whenever I watch the Swan princess I always think about Amanda Reece's voice coming out of Odette😭
Fun fact: Rothbart is German and actually means "red beard"
So he used to be a pirate?
No. He used to be a dog.
So he's a ginger dog pirate
Reggie Lovato ...that was put down.
it goes a little farther, Barbarossa (which translates to Rot[h]bart) was one of the most notable Emperors of the HRE
Was Critic’s preferred John Cleese as a Frenchman/French frog muted for copyright reasons?
Yes, happens all the time.
TH-cam's a bitch
It's usually a song though, not dialogue?
Rothbart: The bullies always took my lunches, TIME FOR REVENGE
Careful, Rothbart. You might just win the comment section too easily.
How come when Derek sees Odette when she was a baby he looks way older than her and for the rest of the movie they look the same age?
That was something I was thinking about too.
Didn't you hear Nostalgia Critic? "They came to see the newborn...three-year-old." 😂
It looks like they start the song when she’s 6ish and he’s about 8. Then they show the characters at four year intervals. The second time we see the kids, she’s about 10 and he’s about 12. The third time, 14 and 16 - they’ve both hit puberty based on the voice work and animation - and then at the end, she’s about 18 and he’s 20.
This movie was my childhood, too bad all the sequels kind of ruined the franchise.
the first two sequels were ok, but it all died for me when the CG ones came out
Agreed!
+TrueBlueProductions
Same here!
Yeah I watched this at least 5 times while I was a child and I love the songs ahah Especially the one when they're kids. I'm glad I never knew it had sequels until very recently
as a kid, i watched it alot too... and i think i only had the 2nd movie, so i only saw one sequel..
i also thought this was a Disney movie when i was a kid..
So i just found out that they're still making sequels to this movie in 2019. There is not 1, not 2, not 3,4,5,6,7 or 8 Swan Princess movies but 9 Swan Princess movies (one of which was a christmas movie). They are called.
The Swan Princess. 1994
The Swan Princess: Escape from Castle Mountain. 1997
The Swan Princess: The Mystery of the Enchanted Kingdom. 1998
The Swan Princess Christmas. 2012 (yes they took a 14 year break)
The Swan Princess: A Royal Family Tale. 2014
The Swan Princess: Princess Tomorrow, Pirate Today. 2016
The Swan Princess: Royally Undercover. 2017
The Swan Princess: A Royal Myztery 2018 (yes with a Z)
The Swan Princess: Kingdom of Music 2019
The first two sequels are hand-drawn animated, the rest in CGI.
I was traumatized forever when I watched one and recognized Yuri Lowenthal’s voice. He voices Prince Derek.
The first time I met this cute VA was in Naruto. He plays an emo, cruel, vengeful anti-hero. So I was so traumatized when I recognized his voice.
(20:11)"big lipped alligator moment" ,i mean "big lipped alligator stealing"
*_I GREET YOU WITH CHEETO LIGHTNING_*
14:49
"A swan.... of course."
why, what makes a swan more suspicious than any other animal?
I think it's supposed to be that he interprets the "it's not what it seems" line to mean that the Great Animal would take the form of something innocent and beautiful,, i.e. a swan.
Maybe cause a swan shouldn't be in the forest? Eh?
@Kellie Carmichael aren't they also fiercely territorial?
They're the incredibly brutal and violent assholes of bird species?
i guess it's supposed to look innocent?
You know that the Swan Princess is based on the ballet Swan Lake? Names like Rothbart and other elements came from the source material. Just not the ballet's bad ending.
Shoutout to the german version for turning "She started out as such an ugly duckling" to "She was so ugly I could hardly bear it", thats so brutal its awesome! xD
Also, the phrasing of "far longer than forever" is alot more poetic in german as well: "more infinite than eternal" thats BEYOND beautiful in german
Any other languages that did more than great dubbing this movie?
Nostalgia Critic: Hey Jeremy,mind if I borrow your "Everything wrong with" idea?
Jeremy (CinemaSins): Fine,just don't make it too identical.
Nostalgia Critic: waaay,ahead of you
"Everything wrong with this plan in under 40 seconds"
Jeremy (Cinemasins):....eh,good enough
I read this in their voices...
I honestly was half expect Jeremy to show up in this review.
For those who do not know who Saint Sebastian is, he was a Roman soldier who converted to Christianity and got shot by arrows because of it.
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Lapsed Catholic here, and as soon as he said "Saint Sebastian", I knew he meant the human pincushion. The only image of him burned into my mind is him tied up, nearly naked, and arrows sticking through his body. It's like the requirement to ba a Saint is to die either gruesomely, embarrassingly, or both.
Weird, you usually get riddled with arrows for NOT converting to Christianity! *Ba bum TSS*
19:56
I think they don't recognize her because of the dark colors she's wearing. The real Odette would wear light and not dark colors
That’s really dumb
SHE DOESNT LOOK DIFFERENT
If you listen to the dialogue after that clip, they’re asking that because they still assume that Odette is dead. They’re saying that it has to be someone else and it couldn’t be her.
@@spoopyblogs I mean... if glasses can hide superman 🤷🏼♀️
@@Nifflerify I mean that’s not any better, I still hate that shit too
The “like a swan” part had me rollin, 😂
19:42, not really. Fake Odette/Odile/Black Swan comes from the ballet. They barely have any of the ballet in this but that bit is quite a crucial factor to this tale.
A lot of the unoriginal ideas can come from the original story of Swan Lake. And yeah they messed up with The Odette imposter not being recognized. The disguise spell, from other version I've seen, only affects the prince. Everyone else can see that it isn't Odette.
That sounds like it'd make more sense actually
I would like a Disney do a version with this using Tsaikovsky music they did with Sleeping Beauty. But with this and the Barbie version I think it will not happen for decades at least.
That is the original. That's why Odette was so upset when she saw the prince swearing his love to Odile. She could see it was someone else, and was betrayed. No one else was expecting Odette, and so no one would have known it was the wrong person.
SnowScales ż
Princess Tutu was pretty great imo.
I totally agree with what he said. If Disney could make two characters that have only known each other for a few days have more chemistry than Odette and Derek who have spent a majority of their lives together, then there’s something wrong with the writing. It makes no sense that there was bad blood all those years and then suddenly they both like each other because they both got hot after puberty. I guess beauty is all that matters in this situation because they also seemed to have lost their personalities after puberty as well.
"What did this?"
"A great animal"
That's what she said
I heard the King's line "Odette is... Odette" and I thought it was a pun. I thought he said "Odette is O-dead"
LOL
To be fair, Blue Sky has come up with some good stuff. Robots had a great cast of amusing characters with interesting designs and an all-star cast. Peanuts was the perfect homage to Charles Schulz, adapting his art style to CGI flawlessly, and pushing his characters a teeny bit without compromising the spirit of Schulz's vision for them. And the first Ice Age film was pretty good.
I agree with most of what you said, but I'm pretty sure they said "Ice Age Sequels". That automatically states the original was better.
Blue Sky makes some OK movies, but they've never really made anything past that. I'm kinda hard pressed to think of anything that they've made that broke the level of "mildly amusing".
I dunno, there's just something I feel like they're missing...
i liked the dinosaur ice age
I like the first Ice Age, and I love Epic and Peanuts.
Mario87456 Rio in my opinion was probably one of Blue Sky's best works, however as nice as it was it wasn't anything ground breaking. It was your typical weakling protagonist story that ended with him growing up and getting the girl. Aside from the focus on Brazil and the emphasis on the romance-which I liked- it's a story we've heard before.
Well, the story of Swan Lake is older than Disney's Little Mermaid, so it's not really ''stealing'' ideas (the villain impersonating the love interest), is it? Argument invalid.
The critic doesn't appear to have a lot of culture
Curious who voiced Prince Derek, so I searched it, and it's Howard McGillin, who played the longest-running phantom in the Phantom of the Opera on Broadway. Lost for words.
Wow, I didn't know that ! That's a cool fact !
>"Suicidal Salamander"
>Shows fish
a'ight
Salmon-mander?
It's the LoTR character. Salmomon.
I loved the movie as a kid, and never noticed the faults till later on. I still enjoy it.
Pixie Bubbles I still enjoy it, but always hated Derek, Odette was too good for him
Well good for you fellas
Ok
Some of my earliest memories was being obsessed with this movie.
"ah the always populer smoke from arrow makes beard gag" XD
that always was and will always b one of my FAVORITE lines in the movie "...Speed up girl!" one of my other faves is Rogers' "You should write a book; How to Offend Women in Five Syllables or Less."
I wished they used the Tchaikovsky's Swan lake soundtrack .
Hell, why didn't they. Isn't it in public domain? If it is, it shows how little they cared about making something decent.
Pasta Animeboy Heck, The BARBIE adaptation used Tchaikovsky's music
I think they mentioned somewhere that it didn't go with the tone of the movie they were trying to set. And if you watch it, it really doesn't. The movie almost overall is very goofy and funny, and the ballet music is quite more epic and somber. However, there is a much better Japanese version that was done in the 80s that's great and does use the Swan Lake ballet music extremely well.
I iNtEnD tO eAt ThEiR lUnChEs
Ah, this man.
He's the chef of our ears
I think it's funny that no one asked the princess why SHE likes him lol.
Actually catching arrows in mid air is a thing. Its very rare esspecially now but there is one master archer whos studied ancheint techniques and can do it.
19:37 Wasn't that part of the original play? In the original Little Mermaid the sea witch didn't do anything to stop her, because there was not a villain. It was only another woman that the prince loved.
In the original, they both died because Derek confesed her love to Odile, Rothbart's daughter (and yes, Rothbart is his name in the original ballet), so the spell can't be broke and they have to kill themselves.
Barbie's version is more faithful than this one :v
The worst part is that they do 3 more movies and one of them is in CGI!