@@conniejohnson6126 Only problem with that is they aren't the first to say it....but I guess the Bus, Harrison, and ward among others are all wrong....
@Jameson Rose Ima need you to do your own research bruh it aint hard to google.....in the time it took you to write that comment you could have just as easily typed hines ward on big ben.....And im talking his 2019 comments as well as 2008 and 2016. Hines been tellin yall for the better part of a decade about Ben but you people dont wanna listen......I wonder why noone believes all the black players who say negative things about ben but they still got big ben rapisburgers back......i wonder why......
He's not speaking generally. He's simply saying some guys are going to see you in a better light than others. The offensive linemen's job is to protect Ben, so he's going to be real friendly with them so that they do a good job in protecting him.
What do you mean? That's a QBs job! He runs the huddle makes all the throws plays hurt makes the right audibles checking out of bad plays he's just not everyone's best friend. Thats the knockon him and he criticizes his teammates openly. That's life. Have a tougher skin it's not a problem. They were winners. Had great offensive production together. Stop it.
Rubin Turner it’s not about having “tougher skin”. It’s called respect. Since when is it right to criticize teammates and the coaching staff publicly? Why not pull them aside PRIVATELY and do so?
@@sdj6353 Both are 'Me-First' (albeit great) players, but as both 26 & 84 have shown us, those types of players usually can't help a team go all the way...
@@BNA_Est.1988 I can't stand when Ben talks about his teammates and I'm not saying he's not a contributing factor in all the drama. They should have all been men and sat down and worked it out. It all pisses me off and I'm sick of the continued drama. When you talk about your ex though... you look like the one with the issues.
Its funny how le'veon bell sat out for a year complaining about getting money and now saying that big ben was a factor with him leaving. the same with antonio brown wants more money but its big ben's fault that he left.
He said it was part of the reason, but not the driving force. The driving force, (according to bell) was that he felt like the brass talked down to him, and they insulted his intelligence by acting like they're giving him a LONG TERM CONTRACT WITH ONE YEAR GUARANTEED... why not just say you're Franchise tagging him again? What's the difference?
bassoonman2000 they also said how much of a cancer AB is. It’s always “but yeah....he works really hard”. Bell suspended several times missing meetings, etc. speaks for itself. Steelers never won anything with the toxic twins. Also current team named JuJu team mvp not AB. The very next week is when all the AB craziness started.
@@slightlybiasedkobebryantfan Last I checked L.Bell doesn't play defense. In 2017 when he played the offense avg 26.4 points per game. In 2018 the offense averaged 26.8 points per game. So how is he the reason the team missed the playoffs
@@slightlybiasedkobebryantfan 1 win was needed for the team to make the playoffs the defense gave up multiple last minute drives in games that led to losses. That means going into the final minutes the Steelers had the lead and the defense couldn't hold it. How exactly would Bells presence change that outcome
Can you stop calling him "L Bell"? It sounds dumb. I know you guys are trying make it stick but it's not working. You're the only show that does it. Let's call you C.Carter, N.Wright from now on.
Oh I also disagree with Jenna because Big Ben was never successful with AB and LeVeon. He was just as successful with other offenses in the years past. Now that's also probably because Big Ben himself was better & because his defense was way better. But he doesn't NEED AB & Leveon to be successful. He did it with so many different tight ends, wide receivers & RBs.
How many?! How many ex-Big Ben teammates do we need saying the same thing to believe that this man is costing his team?! Yes he is great, but if he lost the diva persona, they would have another Super Bowl more recently than over a decade ago. 🙄 Went OFF on this on my channel today.
But Carter was an NFL player and knows the gist of an NFL locker room. In his playing days, he was a leader. He was a hall of fame player. His words deserve to be listened to.
Le'Veon Bell didn't complain about Ben being the leader and highest within the team, but the fact that Roethlisberger seems to have more or at least as much power as the GM.
LeeTravius Mckay This statement proves Kevin Colbert’s point. He has to lead children. Not grown men. In other words. Grow up. Do the job you get paid for. Isn’t that what the Patriots preach? Do your job. No one should have to be “led”.
Ryan Clark didn't sell out Big Ben, he simply stated that he wasn't close with all of the players & he did change after he won the 1st SB, ask Joey Porter. Doesn't mean Ben is wrong in #26 or #84's case & who cares about what a 4th string RB has to say?
This all starts at the top, Tomlin runs a lose ship. Ben is a very good QB. but to me he never looks in shape. I don't blame Bell for not playing, you get hurt and off you go, no guaranteed money. If this was any other sport this would have never happened. One more thing Ben is no Brady and you don't need players like AB or Bell to win, you need a complete team and a good coach something most of the NFL can not rap their heads around.
Ben would repeatedly say bell and brown or the best in the world that was the first time he criticized brown let’s be real and bell just wanted money and brown been wanted money
the steelers used the guy a lot. i dont blame him for wanting guaranteed money. never know when your bodys gonna break down. higher the guarantee the safer you feel even if you were to get hurt
Smalways Vince Lombardi was a teacher that never played football. CC is very intelligent about winning. Steelers have to unify and adopt a Superbowl goal, No peacocks just team wins. No, " I'm special" attitudes.
I don't care for any of the Steelers drama but to be fair my assumption is that Leveon and AB are so much different from Big Ben. They probably couldn't really hang out with eachother and be good friends. I bet they could've been good teammates of course. But like Aaron Rodgers for example. I feel like the only people he really likes or hangs out with was maybe Jordy Nelson and his O Line. I don't think he hung out with Davante or Cobb alot. Yano? I could be wrong but I mean QB's seem to be closer to their O Line than their RB's and Receivers.
Homegirl needs to remember that Big Ben was successful well before Bell and Brown. Ben has two SB rings and a total of threeSB appearances that neither Bell nor Brown have. Why not? Because he did it with other players. Ward, Holmes, Sanders, Wallace, and so on.....toss in Heath Miller of course. He really only had one 'above average RB' most of his career and that was Willie Parker....and for the sake of argument, he had Mendenhall for four seasons. I love LB, but the Steelers have had much success without him....and of course without AB. They will be fine, and maybe even better off with LB and AB. Go Steelers!
@Hugh Dougall I'm very familiar with his stats that game. He was the QB that lead that team to the playoffs and then to the SB. They hoisted the Lombardi Trophy and Ben has his first ring. Nothing changes that. If you start basing every SB win on individual stats and whether they deserved it or not, we could nitpick all 53 SB's and every player on the rosters.
I agree Ben was totally in the wrong but as a man which I don’t think he did go 2 AB an apologize bruh 4 ya mistake an try keep this thing moving! The chemistry Ben & AB had was special
@@chuckrambo4401 i should've elborated both are at fault and steelers are at fault for allowing that kind of culture. but what I meant was no one likes being called out in the media if you got a problem talk to me about it not to reporters. ben is the ultimate blame deflector.
Just know that in every team there’s some players that do get coaches 2 make decisions, that’s why a coach need 2 be a coach and u be friendly 2 everybody on the team or u just don’t be friend to players, that’s it! “I BEEN THERE”.
CC hit the nail on the head. He's the one on the show that has been in a professional locker room so I wouldn't expect the other 2 to know. I think Ben has issues, but for them to try to make him as the primary problem and getting the roster he wanted cause he didn't want either AB or Bell there is idiotic and an attempt to create more drama for their show.
Ben may not be the best person according to his history, and ab/ leveon are super talented. But when those guys decide to put themselves before the team, as a leader ben said exactly what he was supposed to. Why bite the hand that’s fed him for 14 years to try and get other players more money?
Saying “we would appreciate having Leveon back” wouldnt have been “biting the hand that fed him”. And lets be clear, teams owe the players more than what the players owe the teams. You need a PRODUCT to have revenue, which is what Ben has created lots of for the Steelers...
Todd Harris ...think its more of a respect thing lol men get into fights cause of eye-staring (pride is a dangerous thing) so imagine working somewhere and your supervisor disrespecting you and calling you out to other coworkers...i think you wouldnt just let yourself be talked down about
@@danilodiaz7137, this is FOOTBALL!! So if you're TOO much of a 😭😭😭😭👶& a👩👸🤷 to run a route over again, then yes Pittsburgh is NOt the place for you. The Killer Bees were believed to be destined to win a championship together in Pittsburgh & that is a HUGE expectation & we now see that those two guys didn't have what it takes to not only wear the sacred black & gold colors, but also didn't have the testicular fortitude, to bring a Championship to the Steelers... Perhaps black & green are more their colors...GO STEELERS
Todd Harris America is beautiful, everyone is 100% entitled to their opinions. Good luck next yr, maybe you guys can meet my Patriots in the AFC title game once again.
No matter what level you play on, If the QB is calling you out in public, it's gonna cause a problem. That's not conducive to a healthy locker room. You keep it in house. You let the coaches coach. Don't bring attention to the team, and don't alienate your teammates.
It’s a work environment bell is a guy in his late 20s Ben is an older guy almost 40 where I work the guys who are that different in age aren’t best friends outside of work... bell shouldn’t try to be his friend just a co worker a much younger and lot less experience
I'm curious, if Bell had gotten the type of guaranteed money from the Steelers that he was looking for, would that have magically made Big Ben a better person and a leader? This whole issues has always been about money. That's it.
If Ben wasn’t a qb...his past would be a hangover and affects credibility. It’s not about responsibility to be friends. But if you have superstar players... And don’t support them or speak up to keep them. You deserve what you get. I’m a steeler fan.
What's up with the nerd? Ben criticized the line on the int. when he threw AB under the bus for not cutting shallow on the slant vs Denver. #catchupbro
Ok... here we go again. The media twisting words. Bell was asked in his interview if Ben was any factor of whether he stayed or not and Bell said, "We didn't speak on the same level... he was on one above the GM's..." Bell was simply comparing why he went to the Jets was because everyone was on the same level, he never had the respect given by the jets from the Steelers, nor the recruiting and players WANTING him and giving Bell that feeling of being wanted before.
Brown and Bell have left the Steelers.Why can't they stop complaining about the Steelers? Because the media won't let it go. That's why. The Steelers have moved on. They're not talking about it because they want to move on from these overpaid children. LET IT GO.
C'mon Chris Carter you coming off like a Ray Lewis like puppet. Are you scared or what? If Ben roethlisburger had spoken out about you when you were trying to get your money you would've made the same criticism. Be a man and quit dancing. I have no respect for Ray Lewis. Don't fall into the same trap he fell into
Simple question-do you see ex players complain about Brees, P Manning and Brady? No. They are model leaders, they very rarely blame team mates in public and hold themselves to an amazing standard 365 days a year. Ben is not on their level.
There aren't many people sticking microphones in those players faces. I guarantee there is some dirt on manning, Brady. Maybe not brees, he seems legitimately like a cool guy
Patrick Harrison Those other quarterbacks didn’t have to deal with the divas that Bell and Brown are. No ex player, has said anything, until these two divas started all this drama.
Nick!!!! AB's issue was money. Oh Money was his factor! Seen his shoe bill? His Chef bill? His entourage and upkeep bills? He had no more guarantee money coming and manufactured a narrative for work on getting paid. Period! He gave up a chance for SBs to get some money now. He chose security now and if he nvr wins a Bowl his legacy fades and no one will remember much except his lude TD Celebrations on the goal posts.
TiredOfApathy the Super Bowl is a mega achievement, but being financially stable after football is a mega achievement also, considering all the medical ailments athletes have to pay out of pocket after football. LB earned the right to have guaranteed money, considering his overall RB stats against other RBs have been top 3 over three years. Pittsburg was trying to use the man up by franchising him or signing a long term deal because they know how brutal the RB position is and did not want to guarantee money due to a possible injury. The RB position is the most brutal position in football. They deserve to be paid when they produce.
Why are you all in his pockets? It's his money, he can spend it however he wants! AND like it or not its about money for every player on the field. It's not like its charity work they're doing out there, everyone gets paid, you fault him for knowing his worth?
Antonio Brown and Bell will soon realize the organizations they are in now are not better than Pittsburgh. Bell will probably play his contract out and retire at age 30. Brown will never catch Jerry Rice with Oakland and never win a championship.
@Notoriouskage1804 that's why you will see them take plays off now for the rest of their career. Do you want to see your team win or your favorite players get paid?
Bell is gone and is irrelevant. You guys are desperate for news.We will see when the season starts on what effect Bell and Brown trades have on Steelers.My guess not much!
Ben is a QB every team in the NFL would have rather had over his time playing then the QBs they had minus Tom Brady. And who knows...maybe in that system Ben would be the Goat
the thing is hes already making 10 times what the offensive linemen blocking for him make, and hes complaining and not playing until he makes 20 times more.
@@cedricrichardsonsr1057 My facts are together. Ben NEVER spoke of his money. Not a word. The O-line spoke of it but the QB did not talk about his money. In the future, when asking someone to get their facts together, you may want to check them out first. Your lack of football knowledge is pretty clear. Why would a guy who led the league in passing yards and was third in QB rating take a pay cut? And yes, he threw 16 ints. You must also be aware that 12 of those INTs were thrown when he threw in the direction of AB, correct? So without a diva WR to demand the ball in triple coverage I would be willing to bet he throws, 8 next year. Maybe less. Stop listening to the national media and pay attention to the local media and the teammates that are on the team. They tell you what is up.
Right about what? How he lied first he said he love Pittsburgh an he was gonna sign the FT then he turns around a say he wanted 2 set the market for rbs then he sits out now he signs a contact that’s about the same $$ Pittsburgh offers! This the killer part tho said last year would not play for the jets for a 100 million bucks an u kno wut guess he’s right he’s playing 4 less then that 100
CC “ Man I know Big Ben personally. He’s never been friends with AB and LBell. And I know that because I raised all three of them. In fact, when AB was playing pop Warner football, I helped him when it comes to running routes. Me and Ben use to get coffee every morning when I use to come help him with reading defenses when he was in college m@
any smart receiver would love to play with Big Ben here's a couple reason why he hold onto the ball longer than any other quarterback that's give the receiver more time to get open his toughness our receiving Corps will be better than last year mark those words
Chris Carter is the only one on this show who's played football. He's also the only one with any sense. Nick, go find interviews with Ben and show us how many times Ben called out either one of those guys. You might find one...sort of. Do your research.
I think PEOPLE should WATCH Mr Bell's interview for themselves and draw their OWN CONCLUSIONS. Because you can hear WHY he did WHAT he did out of his own MOUTH...
HERE GOES CHRIS CARTER...Smdh You're saying that all of the organizations do business like that. Well Mr Bell said everyone from the GM brass to the Head Coach brass at the jets made him feel EQUAL, they spoke to Him as if he/they were on the same level, as if they respected him. He said it stood out to HIM because he acknowledges that one is the GM and the other is the HEAD COACH... That Chris choose to DEMEAN HIM is what changes my PERCEPTION OF chris.
They busy defending Ben R... L Bell was talking about how he felt... he didn’t wanna be a Steeler anymore for a variety of reasons..why they making this about Ben... after listening to these 2 .. I wasn’t on Bell side through his hold out but now I can see Big Ben is a problem in Pittsburgh although he is a great QB.. I now completely understand why Bell wanted out
I think Bell and Brown's complaints are non-football related. After you make your money in the NFL (or in life), you start to be motivated by other reasons. Money is no longer the issue. So I think it's just then Ben could no longer motivate the guys or lead the guys who were also superstars. He doesn't know how to co-exist with other leaders, and still be the leader. His relationship with his OL can't be the same with everyone else. I think Bell and Brown were comfortable with Ben being the leader, but Ben just did not know how to lead his star players. Just like Carter admitted Edelman and Brady are not the same, Ponce and Bell are not the same either.
I dig CC, and I'm not trying to diss, but Ben was there before Tomlin and Haley. Bottom line, everything flows from the QB on offense, and they are largely seen as the "face of the franchise". As good as mister "Discount Double-Check" is, where has his team been in recent NFL history? Where have the Steelers "Ben" (NPI)?
Yes. Now. Ima stop you there. I think Aaron Rodgers would love to have bell speed and would like to have a deep threat like brown. Oh and an o line thG can defend him from getting sacked. I’m the end. Packers haven made the smarted choices. But unlike Rodgers. Ben has players who’ve played with him calling him out. Rodgers has people who played with favre ot never played with him criticizing him. Greg Jennings is the only one that seems to criticize him but not as much as everyone. And he even defends him at time. But if you get down to it. Greg Jennings is the only one who has played with him and has criticized him for certain things. That’s all.
Talk all the bull you want about Ben, the dude got stats, and 2 rings.....1st ballot. The organization is who let this situation between players get out of control.
Well said chris carter...the dam moderator tryna speak on stuff she knows nothing about. And as a Steelers fan I’m glad those two selfish players are gone
Good job Chris let it be known i was kinda biased before but now Bell and AB are crying foul against Ben Bell didn't play in the AFC championship he cried hurt Brown bcos he didnt get targeted but still caught 13 TDs is whining what it all came down to was money now Bell had to settle for less since Ben was openly critical they are doing to him but everyone knows they were only concerned about money
Hearing all this just makes u appreciate Tom Brady a lot more. For all the Brady haters. NONE of his teammates or former teammates has talk bad about TB12.
The issue was money for Ben, Lev and AB. Jenna is correct. Ben pushed the two highest players out in favor of two guys on rookie contracts. Ben is restructuring his contract right now, so there's plenty of upfront cash available for him.
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Is Big Ben the real problem in Pittsburgh?
YES! Antonio was a diva too, i dont think he is a bright pupil either. but ben character... he just a "funny" guy
@@tyronepearsonjr.613 Ben wasn't the problem.....ab and leveon.....was!
No....the problem is gone now AB and Bell’s drama
@@conniejohnson6126 Only problem with that is they aren't the first to say it....but I guess the Bus, Harrison, and ward among others are all wrong....
@Jameson Rose Ima need you to do your own research bruh it aint hard to google.....in the time it took you to write that comment you could have just as easily typed hines ward on big ben.....And im talking his 2019 comments as well as 2008 and 2016. Hines been tellin yall for the better part of a decade about Ben but you people dont wanna listen......I wonder why noone believes all the black players who say negative things about ben but they still got big ben rapisburgers back......i wonder why......
Thanks Chris for talkin up Ben I'm sick of hearing people criticize him
“Tough, smart, throw the ball” doesn’t mean he a good leader CC u just said the characteristics of a good PLAYER. Which is different than leader
He'll lead the offense to a 4th quarter game winning drive tho
He's not speaking generally. He's simply saying some guys are going to see you in a better light than others. The offensive linemen's job is to protect Ben, so he's going to be real friendly with them so that they do a good job in protecting him.
Exactly
What do you mean? That's a QBs job! He runs the huddle makes all the throws plays hurt makes the right audibles checking out of bad plays he's just not everyone's best friend. Thats the knockon him and he criticizes his teammates openly. That's life. Have a tougher skin it's not a problem. They were winners. Had great offensive production together. Stop it.
Rubin Turner it’s not about having “tougher skin”. It’s called respect. Since when is it right to criticize teammates and the coaching staff publicly? Why not pull them aside PRIVATELY and do so?
Spot on C.C. thanks
CC setting it straight... So tired of Bell and Brown's drama.
Lance Zeigler This has always been about money with Bell and AB not Ben
@@sdj6353 Both are 'Me-First' (albeit great) players, but as both 26 & 84 have shown us, those types of players usually can't help a team go all the way...
SDJ 63 of course Ben. He’s getting paid QB money 😒
Lance Zeigler so we are gonna ignore how much of a diva he’s been? Cool
@@BNA_Est.1988 I can't stand when Ben talks about his teammates and I'm not saying he's not a contributing factor in all the drama. They should have all been men and sat down and worked it out. It all pisses me off and I'm sick of the continued drama. When you talk about your ex though... you look like the one with the issues.
Its funny how le'veon bell sat out for a year complaining about getting money and now saying that big ben was a factor with him leaving. the same with antonio brown wants more money but its big ben's fault that he left.
He said it was part of the reason, but not the driving force. The driving force, (according to bell) was that he felt like the brass talked down to him, and they insulted his intelligence by acting like they're giving him a LONG TERM CONTRACT WITH ONE YEAR GUARANTEED... why not just say you're Franchise tagging him again? What's the difference?
Former Steelers say it a problem there, backing up the sentiments of Bell and AB. I believe those guys.
bassoonman2000 they also said how much of a cancer AB is. It’s always “but yeah....he works really hard”. Bell suspended several times missing meetings, etc. speaks for itself. Steelers never won anything with the toxic twins.
Also current team named JuJu team mvp not AB. The very next week is when all the AB craziness started.
@Jameson Rose Josh Harrison, Deebo, Hines Ward, Isaac Redman
Me too
bassoonman2000 🤔 Josh Harrison LMFAO
The problem was money bruh everyone knows that AB got his bread and bell got a contact
L Bell leaves. New RB steps in and crushed it. RBs can’t block for themselves.
A great O line will give you consistent runs every down.
slippery pete Bell plays they make playoffs. Bell leaves they miss the playoffs........
@@slightlybiasedkobebryantfan Last I checked L.Bell doesn't play defense. In 2017 when he played the offense avg 26.4 points per game. In 2018 the offense averaged 26.8 points per game. So how is he the reason the team missed the playoffs
@@jefferyjones6893 On the money.
Jeffery Jones With Bell they were 13-3 and without they were 9-6-1. Keep looking at stats I’ll keep arguing results.
@@slightlybiasedkobebryantfan 1 win was needed for the team to make the playoffs the defense gave up multiple last minute drives in games that led to losses. That means going into the final minutes the Steelers had the lead and the defense couldn't hold it. How exactly would Bells presence change that outcome
I just don’t like CC. One mans truth can be his truth. Doesn’t have to only be because of a incident occurring etc
Brown and Bell can be stars else where. Steelers need to get back to Winning. And that's all that matters. 3-5 in the playoffs with Bell/Brown.
Rev hahaha!! Have fun getting whooped by the Browns this season lmfao. The Steelers won’t win with Ben again
Wade Stilwell haha good luck Being Mediocre after being the worst organization for decades 🤫
Kevin Holdorff good thing I’ve been a Pats fan for 30 years. At least the penguins are good lol
@@wadestilwell4228 you know. Big ben won i think two super bowls without bell & brown
*5 months later and your steelers are falling apart. LMAOOOOOOOO*
Can you stop calling him "L Bell"? It sounds dumb. I know you guys are trying make it stick but it's not working. You're the only show that does it.
Let's call you C.Carter, N.Wright from now on.
J Fox?
But L Bell rhymes. Just kidding, it sounds stupid. Totally agree with u. I think Nick actually came up with it. Not sure though.
Dude who cares. Stop bitching
I heard other analyst say L Bell
@@Neter6 oh great it's spreading.
Cris Cater RIGHT ON POINT......Well PUT CRIS!!!!!
Oh I also disagree with Jenna because Big Ben was never successful with AB and LeVeon. He was just as successful with other offenses in the years past. Now that's also probably because Big Ben himself was better & because his defense was way better. But he doesn't NEED AB & Leveon to be successful. He did it with so many different tight ends, wide receivers & RBs.
How many?! How many ex-Big Ben teammates do we need saying the same thing to believe that this man is costing his team?! Yes he is great, but if he lost the diva persona, they would have another Super Bowl more recently than over a decade ago. 🙄 Went OFF on this on my channel today.
@@nickfriend4633 AR is the same way. Same things have been said about him from Pro Bowl/HOF players.
Cris Carter... you didn’t play for the Steelers, you didn’t play with Big Ben... how you know. Shut up.
But Carter was an NFL player and knows the gist of an NFL locker room. In his playing days, he was a leader. He was a hall of fame player. His words deserve to be listened to.
Chris Carter YOU NAILED IT! GREAT ANALOGY on the AB, L Bell situations.
Thank you Chris Carter! Finally a voice of reason on the show. You made me proud tonight. Thank you so much from a lifelong Steeler fan!
Le'Veon Bell didn't complain about Ben being the leader and highest within the team, but the fact that Roethlisberger seems to have more or at least as much power as the GM.
Ryan Champ if that was the case Ben would’ve drafted defensive players remember when they drafted a qb he said “how’s that going to help the team”
Like when the team took a QB last season?
Big Ben is the worst leader in nfl history
LeeTravius Mckay I’d take Big Ben over Paxton lynch 🤣
I'll take Paxton Lynch
We all know the Ben haters dwell the earth.......ab and leveon careers will diminish before long withoutben!!
LeeTravius Mckay This statement proves Kevin Colbert’s point. He has to lead children. Not grown men. In other words. Grow up. Do the job you get paid for. Isn’t that what the Patriots preach? Do your job. No one should have to be “led”.
@@biscuitsforsmut2791 ok
C.C annoying af he never agrees with any players idk how you can defend Big Ben after so many people spoke on him
Who? AB and Bell?
D. Tunney the Rbs that said he fumbled on purpose
Ryan Clark
Hines Ward
@@MrNaaman305 the rb that had 9 carries and Ryan Clark who sells out everyone for another paycheck?
Ryan Clark didn't sell out Big Ben, he simply stated that he wasn't close with all of the players & he did change after he won the 1st SB, ask Joey Porter. Doesn't mean Ben is wrong in #26 or #84's case & who cares about what a 4th string RB has to say?
@@toddharris4774 he said ben was petty
This all starts at the top, Tomlin runs a lose ship. Ben is a very good QB. but to me he never looks in shape. I don't blame Bell for not playing, you get hurt and off you go, no guaranteed money. If this was any other sport this would have never happened. One more thing Ben is no Brady and you don't need players like AB or Bell to win, you need a complete team and a good coach something most of the NFL can not rap their heads around.
Ben would repeatedly say bell and brown or the best in the world that was the first time he criticized brown let’s be real and bell just wanted money and brown been wanted money
the steelers used the guy a lot. i dont blame him for wanting guaranteed money. never know when your bodys gonna break down. higher the guarantee the safer you feel even if you were to get hurt
Agreed 100% with CC... great points!
Cris Carter "knows" a lot about winning football to have NEVER played in a Super Bowl.
Smalways well I guess we should just ignore everything dan marino ever says as well
@@jbluna2 No, but we should ignore any ANALYSIS he has about WINNING.
He was a nfl player in the lockrooms I would choose his opinion then yours
@@joelheffner3274 My OPINION on WINNING football is just as irrelevant. Don't be emotional about my comment.
Smalways Vince Lombardi was a teacher that never played football. CC is very intelligent about winning. Steelers have to unify and adopt a Superbowl goal, No peacocks just team wins. No, " I'm special" attitudes.
I don't care for any of the Steelers drama but to be fair my assumption is that Leveon and AB are so much different from Big Ben. They probably couldn't really hang out with eachother and be good friends. I bet they could've been good teammates of course.
But like Aaron Rodgers for example. I feel like the only people he really likes or hangs out with was maybe Jordy Nelson and his O Line. I don't think he hung out with Davante or Cobb alot. Yano? I could be wrong but I mean QB's seem to be closer to their O Line than their RB's and Receivers.
E 92 You see the post Rodgers made about Cobb now that he left? Oh he def hung out with him
@@r8td I mean probably but I doubt it was on the level he hung out with Jordy.
one minute these clowns are burying Ben next minute there defending him.
*4:20** CORRECTION*
Kobe got rid of Shaq AND Phil Jackson🤣
Homegirl needs to remember that Big Ben was successful well before Bell and Brown. Ben has two SB rings and a total of threeSB appearances that neither Bell nor Brown have. Why not? Because he did it with other players. Ward, Holmes, Sanders, Wallace, and so on.....toss in Heath Miller of course. He really only had one 'above average RB' most of his career and that was Willie Parker....and for the sake of argument, he had Mendenhall for four seasons. I love LB, but the Steelers have had much success without him....and of course without AB. They will be fine, and maybe even better off with LB and AB. Go Steelers!
Yeah Ben has 2 rings but one of them was clearly not because of him and bc of his defense. Sort of like Trent Dilfer and the 2000 Ravens lol
@Hugh Dougall I'm very familiar with his stats that game. He was the QB that lead that team to the playoffs and then to the SB. They hoisted the Lombardi Trophy and Ben has his first ring. Nothing changes that. If you start basing every SB win on individual stats and whether they deserved it or not, we could nitpick all 53 SB's and every player on the rosters.
CC was hurt by the questions .. wine wine wine
Nick's hair looks like it's slowly starting to recede slightly.
Ben publicly criticizes anyone on that football team? I've definitely never heard of Ben criticizing Bell.
Cc wouldn’t feel this way if they played together and he said cc should’ve ran a better route when the throw was terrible.
Derrick Chung Do you think he would cry like a baby and start throwing things on the sideline 🤔🤫
I agree Ben was totally in the wrong but as a man which I don’t think he did go 2 AB an apologize bruh 4 ya mistake an try keep this thing moving! The chemistry Ben & AB had was special
@@chuckrambo4401 i should've elborated both are at fault and steelers are at fault for allowing that kind of culture. but what I meant was no one likes being called out in the media if you got a problem talk to me about it not to reporters. ben is the ultimate blame deflector.
@@rodneyflowers8361 I know it's so sad those 3 ben, AB, and Bell definitely should've had a ring together.
Derrick Chung ikr as a Steelers fan we should have but New England spoiled an that for a lot of teams
Marcus Peterson, thank you for keeping it real.
My favorite show to watch in the morning as I start my routine
Thank you Chris Carter!
Just know that in every team there’s some players that do get coaches 2 make decisions, that’s why a coach need 2 be a coach and u be friendly 2 everybody on the team or u just don’t be friend to players, that’s it! “I BEEN THERE”.
CC hit the nail on the head. He's the one on the show that has been in a professional locker room so I wouldn't expect the other 2 to know. I think Ben has issues, but for them to try to make him as the primary problem and getting the roster he wanted cause he didn't want either AB or Bell there is idiotic and an attempt to create more drama for their show.
Ben may not be the best person according to his history, and ab/ leveon are super talented. But when those guys decide to put themselves before the team, as a leader ben said exactly what he was supposed to. Why bite the hand that’s fed him for 14 years to try and get other players more money?
Saying “we would appreciate having Leveon back” wouldnt have been “biting the hand that fed him”. And lets be clear, teams owe the players more than what the players owe the teams. You need a PRODUCT to have revenue, which is what Ben has created lots of for the Steelers...
Ahhhhh, boooohoooooo. The QB was mean to meeeeeeeee😓😪😫😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😅😀😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Todd Harris ...think its more of a respect thing lol men get into fights cause of eye-staring (pride is a dangerous thing) so imagine working somewhere and your supervisor disrespecting you and calling you out to other coworkers...i think you wouldnt just let yourself be talked down about
@@danilodiaz7137, this is FOOTBALL!! So if you're TOO much of a 😭😭😭😭👶& a👩👸🤷 to run a route over again, then yes Pittsburgh is NOt the place for you. The Killer Bees were believed to be destined to win a championship together in Pittsburgh & that is a HUGE expectation & we now see that those two guys didn't have what it takes to not only wear the sacred black & gold colors, but also didn't have the testicular fortitude, to bring a Championship to the Steelers... Perhaps black & green are more their colors...GO STEELERS
Todd Harris America is beautiful, everyone is 100% entitled to their opinions. Good luck next yr, maybe you guys can meet my Patriots in the AFC title game once again.
@@danilodiaz7137, I look forward to that inevitably..
No matter what level you play on, If the QB is calling you out in public, it's gonna cause a problem. That's not conducive to a healthy locker room. You keep it in house. You let the coaches coach. Don't bring attention to the team, and don't alienate your teammates.
It’s a work environment bell is a guy in his late 20s Ben is an older guy almost 40 where I work the guys who are that different in age aren’t best friends outside of work... bell shouldn’t try to be his friend just a co worker a much younger and lot less experience
great point
I'm curious, if Bell had gotten the type of guaranteed money from the Steelers that he was looking for, would that have magically made Big Ben a better person and a leader? This whole issues has always been about money. That's it.
If Ben wasn’t a qb...his past would be a hangover and affects credibility.
It’s not about responsibility to be friends.
But if you have superstar players...
And don’t support them or speak up to keep them.
You deserve what you get.
I’m a steeler fan.
Pull the hand from behind your back Chris you started look like a real puppet
Chill out guy 😂
What's up with the nerd? Ben criticized the line on the int. when he threw AB under the bus for not cutting shallow on the slant vs Denver. #catchupbro
Ben has 2 rings, how many do ab and bell have? Ben won rings with Cedric Wilson and antwon randel el. Ben is not the problem.
Thank you.
Its 2019! Why is this 720p...
Well said and spoken#MR.CHRIS CARTER.....JUST THE FACTS!!!!
Ok... here we go again. The media twisting words. Bell was asked in his interview if Ben was any factor of whether he stayed or not and Bell said, "We didn't speak on the same level... he was on one above the GM's..." Bell was simply comparing why he went to the Jets was because everyone was on the same level, he never had the respect given by the jets from the Steelers, nor the recruiting and players WANTING him and giving Bell that feeling of being wanted before.
Brown and Bell have left the Steelers.Why can't they stop complaining about the Steelers? Because the media won't let it go. That's why. The Steelers have moved on. They're not talking about it because they want to move on from these overpaid children. LET IT GO.
C'mon Chris Carter you coming off like a Ray Lewis like puppet. Are you scared or what? If Ben roethlisburger had spoken out about you when you were trying to get your money you would've made the same criticism. Be a man and quit dancing. I have no respect for Ray Lewis. Don't fall into the same trap he fell into
Leave Ray Lewis alone butthead
@@ravenruthaker2904 F that snitch!!! That Steven from Django puppet get no love. U support whoever u like but Ray Ray is nothing in my book
@@charlestinsley167 such language is not needed as well as me saying but these to which I apologize :-)different opinions
Simple question-do you see ex players complain about Brees, P Manning and Brady? No. They are model leaders, they very rarely blame team mates in public and hold themselves to an amazing standard 365 days a year. Ben is not on their level.
There aren't many people sticking microphones in those players faces. I guarantee there is some dirt on manning, Brady. Maybe not brees, he seems legitimately like a cool guy
Patrick Harrison Those other quarterbacks didn’t have to deal with the divas that Bell and Brown are. No ex player, has said anything, until these two divas started all this drama.
Nick!!!! AB's issue was money. Oh Money was his factor! Seen his shoe bill? His Chef bill? His entourage and upkeep bills? He had no more guarantee money coming and manufactured a narrative for work on getting paid. Period! He gave up a chance for SBs to get some money now. He chose security now and if he nvr wins a Bowl his legacy fades and no one will remember much except his lude TD Celebrations on the goal posts.
TiredOfApathy the Super Bowl is a mega achievement, but being financially stable after football is a mega achievement also, considering all the medical ailments athletes have to pay out of pocket after football. LB earned the right to have guaranteed money, considering his overall RB stats against other RBs have been top 3 over three years. Pittsburg was trying to use the man up by franchising him or signing a long term deal because they know how brutal the RB position is and did not want to guarantee money due to a possible injury. The RB position is the most brutal position in football. They deserve to be paid when they produce.
Why are you all in his pockets? It's his money, he can spend it however he wants! AND like it or not its about money for every player on the field. It's not like its charity work they're doing out there, everyone gets paid, you fault him for knowing his worth?
Antonio Brown and Bell will soon realize the organizations they are in now are not better than Pittsburgh. Bell will probably play his contract out and retire at age 30. Brown will never catch Jerry Rice with Oakland and never win a championship.
@Notoriouskage1804 that's why you will see them take plays off now for the rest of their career. Do you want to see your team win or your favorite players get paid?
@Notoriouskage1804 Good point because it's pretty obvious most of them aren't going to do it with their college "degree".
Bell is gone and is irrelevant. You guys are desperate for news.We will see when the season starts on what effect Bell and Brown trades have on Steelers.My guess not much!
Ben is a QB every team in the NFL would have rather had over his time playing then the QBs they had minus Tom Brady. And who knows...maybe in that system Ben would be the Goat
I believe most great quarterbacks would be tbh
He just wanted a family and money to secure his family. Make sense?
the thing is hes already making 10 times what the offensive linemen blocking for him make, and hes complaining and not playing until he makes 20 times more.
Even when Ben was getting sacked the most in the nfl he never said anything 😂😂🤔
Big Ben is y'all problem Pittsburg
Ben critisized AB once. He never said a word about Bell. Gets your facts straight guys.
Ben was speaking on Bell's money get your facts together now Ben doesn't take a pay cut in year 17 and 16INT's last year that cost us games 😎
@@cedricrichardsonsr1057, Bell's circus has cost us games for each of the past 2yrs, get your facts straight; I'm with Ben & the Steelers...
@@cedricrichardsonsr1057 My facts are together. Ben NEVER spoke of his money. Not a word. The O-line spoke of it but the QB did not talk about his money.
In the future, when asking someone to get their facts together, you may want to check them out first.
Your lack of football knowledge is pretty clear. Why would a guy who led the league in passing yards and was third in QB rating take a pay cut?
And yes, he threw 16 ints. You must also be aware that 12 of those INTs were thrown when he threw in the direction of AB, correct?
So without a diva WR to demand the ball in triple coverage I would be willing to bet he throws, 8 next year. Maybe less.
Stop listening to the national media and pay attention to the local media and the teammates that are on the team. They tell you what is up.
@ Chirs Carter, Amen
Amen....!....Exactly......
Ben won 2 rings won.
Bell and AB have chased money and stats respectively in their primes.
Hope this helps.
Robbo Ben won 2 rings with a great defense not because of him
So did Eli yet he’s labelled a winner? TB12 won many SBs off of Belichick’s defence such as his last one yet he’s one of the best ever.
The Steelers would not have won the last 2 rings with out Ben
Where there smoke there is fire LB right
Right about what? How he lied first he said he love Pittsburgh an he was gonna sign the FT then he turns around a say he wanted 2 set the market for rbs then he sits out now he signs a contact that’s about the same $$ Pittsburgh offers! This the killer part tho said last year would not play for the jets for a 100 million bucks an u kno wut guess he’s right he’s playing 4 less then that 100
CC “ Man I know Big Ben personally. He’s never been friends with AB and LBell. And I know that because I raised all three of them. In fact, when AB was playing pop Warner football, I helped him when it comes to running routes. Me and Ben use to get coffee every morning when I use to come help him with reading defenses when he was in college m@
He wasn't willing to help the room either
Chris Carter SUCKS ALL THE AIR out of the room!!!
Chris is half right! Big Ben didn’t create anything but he didn’t help either! This year we gonna see what Ben can do!
facts CC
Did Ben criticize Leveon? I don't remember that
This is stupid, Bell left Pitt, got paid, leave the unhappiness behind & look to the future
Too much drama. Guys doing too much talking.
Daniel Tayong Yeah guys not on the team 👌🤔
any smart receiver would love to play with Big Ben here's a couple reason why he hold onto the ball longer than any other quarterback that's give the receiver more time to get open his toughness our receiving Corps will be better than last year mark those words
Chris Carter is the only one on this show who's played football. He's also the only one with any sense. Nick, go find interviews with Ben and show us how many times Ben called out either one of those guys. You might find one...sort of. Do your research.
Bell and Ab got paid now they can retire
They both talked trash on each other neither one is better than the other
Nick can use a personal shopper or someone to shown him how to dress. Pattern on pattern on pattern on pattern.
I think PEOPLE should WATCH Mr Bell's interview for themselves and draw their OWN CONCLUSIONS. Because you can hear WHY he did WHAT he did out of his own MOUTH...
She asked good question.
Jesse James critisized Ben too and he has no agenda
Cris spoke nun but FACTS.
HERE GOES CHRIS CARTER...Smdh You're saying that all of the organizations do business like that. Well Mr Bell said everyone from the GM brass to the Head Coach brass at the jets made him feel EQUAL, they spoke to Him as if he/they were on the same level, as if they respected him. He said it stood out to HIM because he acknowledges that one is the GM and the other is the HEAD COACH... That Chris choose to DEMEAN HIM is what changes my PERCEPTION OF chris.
The offensive linemen & back up QB defend him, none of the skill position or defensive players seem to like him - I’m just saying.
Sprax so obvious that he isnt a good leader lol
They busy defending Ben R... L Bell was talking about how he felt... he didn’t wanna be a Steeler anymore for a variety of reasons..why they making this about Ben... after listening to these 2 .. I wasn’t on Bell side through his hold out but now I can see Big Ben is a problem in Pittsburgh although he is a great QB.. I now completely understand why Bell wanted out
I think Bell and Brown's complaints are non-football related. After you make your money in the NFL (or in life), you start to be motivated by other reasons. Money is no longer the issue. So I think it's just then Ben could no longer motivate the guys or lead the guys who were also superstars. He doesn't know how to co-exist with other leaders, and still be the leader. His relationship with his OL can't be the same with everyone else. I think Bell and Brown were comfortable with Ben being the leader, but Ben just did not know how to lead his star players. Just like Carter admitted Edelman and Brady are not the same, Ponce and Bell are not the same either.
“But I even heard Ben roethlisberger say, and I don’t think we will. That he is glad those guys are gone” what????? You heard what he won’t say? Lol
Stop your B.S. CC, Ben got Todd Haley sent out of Pittsburgh & you know it..
I dig CC, and I'm not trying to diss, but Ben was there before Tomlin and Haley. Bottom line, everything flows from the QB on offense, and they are largely seen as the "face of the franchise". As good as mister "Discount Double-Check" is, where has his team been in recent NFL history? Where have the Steelers "Ben" (NPI)?
Yes. Now. Ima stop you there. I think Aaron Rodgers would love to have bell speed and would like to have a deep threat like brown. Oh and an o line thG can defend him from getting sacked. I’m the end. Packers haven made the smarted choices. But unlike Rodgers. Ben has players who’ve played with him calling him out. Rodgers has people who played with favre ot never played with him criticizing him. Greg Jennings is the only one that seems to criticize him but not as much as everyone. And he even defends him at time. But if you get down to it. Greg Jennings is the only one who has played with him and has criticized him for certain things. That’s all.
No doubt. Alright CC. We cool again. LOL
i find it funny that Bell wants to win a superbowl or said he did and he goes to the jets lol have fun not winning a superbowl
Talk all the bull you want about Ben, the dude got stats, and 2 rings.....1st ballot. The organization is who let this situation between players get out of control.
Facts!
BAM!!!
Let's see how the Steelers play this year w/o bell and brown
Well said chris carter...the dam moderator tryna speak on stuff she knows nothing about. And as a Steelers fan I’m glad those two selfish players are gone
chris lattimer agreed man, she never just stays in her lane
She was making stuff up. Ridiculous.
yep
We gone see how great James Conner is without AB out wide keeping a defense honest when teams stack 8 men in the box...lol.
Same with JuJu, I'm not saying they're not good but people are greatly underestimating what Brown brought to the table.
CC, You're finally talking sense. Thank you!
Good job Chris let it be known i was kinda biased before but now Bell and AB are crying foul against Ben Bell didn't play in the AFC championship he cried hurt Brown bcos he didnt get targeted but still caught 13 TDs is whining what it all came down to was money now Bell had to settle for less since Ben was openly critical they are doing to him but everyone knows they were only concerned about money
Hearing all this just makes u appreciate Tom Brady a lot more. For all the Brady haters. NONE of his teammates or former teammates has talk bad about TB12.
Cris Carter 👍👍👍
The issue was money for Ben, Lev and AB. Jenna is correct.
Ben pushed the two highest players out in favor of two guys on rookie contracts. Ben is restructuring his contract right now, so there's plenty of upfront cash available for him.
If true Ben is smarter than we thought.
How much money are these guys paid to defend has been from the last decade Big Ben!
Thanks Chris for speaking the truth somebody needs to speak up