I believe the could've arrested him if he had an arrest warrant. a bench warrant is different in that they can't go looking for you or stop you without probable cause. they probably didn't like him and wanted to pick him up so he would have to spend time in a cell till they could schedule a new court date. I'm guessing it was a Friday so he would have to wait till Monday. they have all kinds of b.s. tricks they use. that why my answer is I don't answer questions. they aren't your friends and their only goal is to fish and arrest someone. your not obligated to help them with anything, especially since anything you say can and will be held against you in a court of law.
Why do people continue to talk with cops? If there lips are moving there lying. Call your lawyer and have them take care of it. Have them buckle and bounce!
"We're here to enforce a warrant." "Let's see it." "We don't have it." Who the hell goes to pick someone up on a warrant and doesn't bring the warrant?
If the cops really had a warrant, they would have kicked the door in and arrested him. The fact that they didn't leads me to believe there wasn't a warrant. Speaking from experience.
It's just a basic bench warrant, has to be a felony warrant for them to start kicking in doors, if you got a failure to appear on a misdemeanor they would probably let you slide and pick you up later
If I have a warrant for you, even if it's a misdemeanor, I'm going to give you once chance to come out, then I'm kicking in your door and coming in with my gun drawn. You had your chance, now you sit in jail until the judge wants to see you. Either things are different in that state or they didn't have a warrant. All I need is a warrant from a judge, no matter if anyone has been notified, and I can seize (arrest) you. These cops were being really nice, trying to help this guy out, but he's a knucklehead.
@@tealwraith9045 Go ahead and try that. If I don't see the warrent and you kink in my door I hope that soft vest is rated level 4 because I'll start dumping .308. One of us is guaranteed to die then.
Police aren't required to carry paper copies of arrest warrants. Do you expect an officer that randomly encounters a wanted person to have a physical copy of that particular wanted person's warrant?
@@John-oo8dn if you are attending a place specifically for the purpose of serving a warrant I expect you to come prepared by having a physical copy of the actual warrant.
@@ThatGuy182545 It doesn't really matter what you expect. They don't have to do it. If you think that's wrong, petition your legislature to make it a legal requirement.
It is a Bench Warrant, or Attachment, not a Arrest Warrant for a criminal offense. They cannot enter the home to remove him. They are not supposed to be actively seeking to enforce the Attachment. The man can just the same contact the Judge and explain himself, the misunderstanding, ect and the Judge can recall the attachment. That is all it is, the Judge wants to know why he didn't appear. Law Enforcement, are supposed to bring him in, IF they have contact with him. NOT tracking him down like a criminal.
@Areu Kiddingme lmfao, how about learning the difference between an arrest warrant and a warrant that lets police enter your home. Those are very separate warrants. One grants them lawful entry into your home the other grants them arresting powers if you cross their paths. They can't just show up at your home with a supposed arrest warrant and take you into custody. That would violate the castle doctrine. I would suggest you learn your rights before telling people about theirs. Unless you yourself are in law enforcement and in that case. Go 🖕 yourself "in tom cruise voice"
They might. Police generally don't want to force their way in unless they have to. But after five minutes or so, they'd stop talking and just kick the door in. The fact that they never just came in and arrested him, even AFTER several minutes of discussion, shows what they have was a summons, not a warrant.
I'm glad he denied them, but I think the better strategy is to simply refuse to talk to them. Don't answer the door. Don't open the curtains. Don't engage at all.
Problem is they can just stake out his home and jump him as soon as he steps outside. Confronting them on recording and outed their lies protects him far better then just trying to run and hide.
@@solidmoon8266 That is why you are always armed. So you can REPEL attacks inside and OUTSIDE the home. I only saw 3 very incompetent popo's, a revolver can handle them.
Anyone that’s ever dealt with the court system knows full well, the judge isn’t sitting there waiting on someone with a warrant to get brought in, especially if the warrant is several weeks or months old. Typical lying cops.
You have never delt with the NYS court system and bail reform laws. These are catch and release warrants. The judge couldn't put the guy in jail even if they wanted to. The judge doesn't want to get woke up in the middle of the night just to waive there finger at someone and asking them to pretty please come to court on the next date.
Ikr? He wanted him to think they would walk in the front door, he could talk to the judge & the cop would wait for him while he finished business then he'd give him a ride back home. Like a service or something! Yeah right! They were going to book him, process him & add those fees & fines & who knows when the judg would see him!
Hell no! This cop was BIG TIME lying! He was insulting dudes intelligence so much by saying just come out to the car so I can show you the warrant n I won't even put u in the car. Well why didn't you just bring the warrant in the 1st place. No one with an FTA just walks in sees the judge n walks out AND gets a ride home from the same cop that brought u in! Those cop rides r usually a 1 way ticket.
Not just a warrant in hand.... but I saw a video where police claimed they had a warrant to arrest some migrant guy, but the guy driving the car was a lawyer and asked if it was signed by a judge. The cop said it wasn't. The lawyer replied that it's not a legal warrant if the judge didn't sign it.
This is the biggest lie that I have ever heard before and I've heard it a few times. Although none of those were for me I did have friends and family that it happened to. DON'T GO WITH THE COPS UNLESS THEY HAVE A WARRANT!
@@55Quirll Payten v. New York. An arrest warrant allows them to enter a property if they have reason to believe the named person is in there. If they had one they could have kicked his door in and taken him. They had nothing.
"We don't care." "Ok. I don't care either. I'm ordering you to leave my property and I will not speak to you without an attorney present. Thank you and have a wonderful day." End of interaction.
Do not go with them. And it sucks that police are allowed to lie for any reason to their fellow citizens. I blame the Supreme Court for not providing limitations on that practice. It is misused all the time.
You can't have limitations about cops lying to us, undercover cops, missions and investigations would be useless in justice system and would never hold at court. But it's shame that police is abusing that power for their own personal interests and benifites.
It may be misused constantly,but the underlying theme is it generates revenue.Ask yourself this.If certain people are benefiting financially,even at the expense of mistreating law abiding citizens,why would they stop the money train?This system that we are a part of makes us slaves to the perceived authority.Cameras on public servants are the only thing left to attempt to hold on to our rights.The rights,the US GOVERNMENT doesn't care about currently.
Not to them, they are upstanding bad a** mother fu***rs no matter WHAT. Sadly we all know 80% of cops are pansy’s hiding behind their badge and couldnt fight their way out of a wet paper bag
They are phuckin liars! If they had a valid warrant, they would break down that door and arrest him. Never take the word of a cop! They can lie with impunity and never be held accountable for it. I will never talk to a cop at my door and I most certainly will never open the door to them. Kick rocks!!!
@@iam4740 correct an arrest warrant does not grant them legal entry unless they physically see the person that has said warrant then they can legally enter that home. No cop on earth is going to walk away from an arrest if there was an actual arrest warrant.
You guys don't understand NYS's new bail reform laws. These are catch and release warrants. The judge can't put the guy in jail even if they want to. Besides force used in an arrest must be reasonable and necessary. Smashing down a door for a catch and release bench warrant is certainly unreasonable.
Yes and no, usually YES you are right. Bench Warrants though are generally being handed out like candy from judges anymore and they tell Sheriffs NOT to use force because legally they can only hand them out when people sign acknowledgement of a court date and time. Since they can't get that most of the time (people ignoring mail or knocks on door), they will issue them anyways and Sheriffs will "GET YOU TO COMPLY" usually like this Sheriff was trying to do. If this guy stepped outside the house, they would have NOT have let him back inside and would have told him he had no choice but to go. His COMPLIANCE would have been giving up at that point and they would have blocked him from getting back into the house as they had 2 back up officers ready to go. They would have surrounded him and then if he would have tried to push past them, assault on an officer for touching that officer! This would have been a stand off until he backed down. These are the tactics they use when the courts want their child support money and they don't have the legal power to force you into their court room.
It all depends on what the warrant is for. A traffic warrant where you forgot a court date for a speeding offense, they probably won't kick the door. A bench warrant for a failure to appear for a felony DUI, they'll kick the door. An arrest warrant for a misdemeanor shoplifting offense. Might not kick the door. A warrant for Home Invasion and Sexual Assault case...yeah that door is getting kicked.
They can't enter a home with just an arrest warrant. To enter the home they need a search warrant specifying who or what is to be seized UNLESS they are in "hot pursuit" of a suspect.
@@bizzwag They don't have the warrant on them. And cops lie. The warrant is not a for a felony. Failure to appear in court for minor charge is not a felony. If they do bust down his door and arrest the cops and the city can get sued violating his 4th amendment rights.
That’s not what my grandfather said about the Great Depression. He, and millions of others, went to work for the CCC and helped to feed their families. Good government made sure I didn’t get polio the way my father did. When Ronald Reagan said that he was busy tripling the national debt. So, bad government for me and great government for the rich.
Kind of a lose/lose scenario though cause then you're out the cost of the door. Zero chance they will pay for it no matter how innocent or even uninvolved you are. Not only that but, your house would be wide open for thieves while you are 'detained'.
And now you've just cost yourself the price of a broken door when had you simply gone peacefully once shown the warrant, you'd not have to deal with that expense. Way to cost yourself several hundred dollars for nothing. Once you've VERIFIED that there is indeed a warrant for your arrest, making the police break in is just plain stupid. All it gets you is your property destroyed WITHOUT any right to be compensated since the police were acting lawfully at the time.
@John Burrows Except that NO MATTER WHAT they are not going to pay for repairs to your door or door frame, which can EASILY involve a comma in the $ amount.
@@spearamintwolf6225 That would normally be true EXCEPT the law says you can not issue a bench warrant without a signed acknowledgement of court documents or the next court date and time were given to you in the last court case. So basically, if you know you didn't sign any paperwork, then there is either no Bench Warrant or the Bench Warrant is not legal and either way you are in the right.
In order for a warrant to be lawful, it must be SIGNED BY A JUDGE and TIMELY FILED. If those two things don't exist, the warrant doesn't exist, no matter what they say. It may be "in their system", but if they can't CERTIFY a properly written warrant, IT WAS NEVER ISSUED.
If they can't show you a warrant it's because it doesn't exist. Why stand at the door and argue with them. Tell them show me the warrant or leave my property and shut the door. They were just trying to get you to walk off your property so they could pounce.
The 1st time that Tyrant said he didn't have a paper warrant should have been the last statement he made! "You're trespassing get off my property now" PERIOD
Works that way for search warrants, doesn't work that way for arrest warrants. They do not need a physical copy of the arrest warrant in their hands. It can be communicated via computer or over the radio...as long as the proper confirmation process has been followed.
Never trust a word out of their mouths. If there's a warrant the sheriff should show it to the accused through the window. If there's a warrant why didn't this citizen call an attorney to handle the surrender and why didn't the deputy let him know calling his attorney was an option.
Citizen: "show me the warrant" Cop:" I don't have it" Later: Citizen: again, "show me the Warrant" Cop: " I don't have a copy with me"... Cops: Graduates with Honor's From University of Tricks & Lies...Sad.
@@jasonsherman5194 Saying it's "Literally the first line" is a lie though, isn't it? It's not even on the first line of §120.80 where your quote appears. You also failed to mention the rest of the sentence.
The patriot act needs to be abolished, it is the reason why police think they have the power now. They need to be accountable and actually serve and protect.
They aren’t patriots tho they’re a gang for the elite the military support us is that the government uses them for geopolitical wars and bullshit but they’re waking up and the government is chewing more then it can chew now
I went to court for slapping someone for harrassing my wife at the time . My court date was at 10am and at the court they kept on pushing my case back and back . My wife and a few people notice that the judge and the lawyer looked pissed . Come to find out they wanted me to leave so they can get a warrant
@@jonathanhansen3709 not if he's already at court. You get that they were trying to frustrate him in to leaving so they could collude and issue a bench warrant, then he's gotta pay more.
And plus it looks really good to the courts when you show up this was def an act to cause more issues down the road you came on your own knowing you were in the right plain and simple
I think I was 12, long long time ago. When I grew up, we had cops on both sides as neighbors. I was always taught to find a cop if I was in trouble. Now I gotta teach my 15 year old grandson to NEVER let them in the house, never talk to one at school. Of course, also had to teach him that our govt is full of homicidal, lying psychopaths. Better informed early than having your world upended in later life.
My wife had a very similar experience with the way that the American justice system operates, she had a traffic ticket and she was not able to make it to the court on the day that she was supposed to be there, and it wasn't because she was being anarchic or she was avoiding being held accountable, she had no way of being able to get there because of the fact that she lived very far from the county where she was given the ticket and she had no way to get there and she tried to get the court clerk to give her a new date so she could arrange transportation to get there, but they wouldn't do anything to help her and she was given warrant after warrant for not being in court on the date that she was given, and that led to her being arrested many times for the same traffic ticket and the police acted like she was on America's most wanted list and the police would come at her with their guns out and with multiple officers who were the most disrespectful and ignorant scumbags that I have ever seen especially when it was about a fucking traffic ticket!!!
Same here.. was 15 minutes past set time for court.. denied entry and told a warrant will be issued by end of day..30 days later 6 pbso showed up guns drawn at all 3 doors at home.. said if don't open door will bust door down..went in for booking, was back home in 4 hours..in the end traffic ticket was thrown out...all about money and numbers..to stain ones record for life..
You do know you can call ahead days later and sit to be seen by the judge right? She didn’t have to go to jail. Just show up when she could. The judge would cancel the warrant after being seen. I missed by a day one time because I completely forgot. And called and walked in. I just had to wait for my license to be suspended then immediately get it taken off once it showed up in the system.
I had a similar experience, although not repetitious: I got a speeding ticket October 1986. No court date on ticket. I called the Muni Court for the court date. The lady said July 17, 1987. I said "JULY??" She said July 17th. I said "Sure, okay, I'll just plan my whole YEAR around it!" Turned out it was for JANUARY 17th (a couple months after the ticket date) I was at home when the cops came to haul me in on a bench warrant that had been issued for my arrest. So overnight in the gray-bar hotel. I explained to the Judge that - when I called for my court date, I was told July 17th. And repeated my quip about planning my whole year around "the event". He said, "in light of this gross misunderstanding, I am quashing the ticket." He threw it out - it was a "38 in a 35 zone" ticket - and said it was too ridiculous to expect that it would be 6 or more months according to all rules of the court at that time. I said "I didn't expect it would be scheduled 6+ months out, either, and that maybe the lady at the Court office was planning HER summer vacation when I called for my court date. He was very nice about it. It never showed up on my driving abstract either.
@@MagesseT1 What makes your case completely insane is that you were arrested for a traffic ticket!!! I'm sorry but getting arrested for a traffic ticket is nuts especially in this country!! In this country today, you can get arrested for the dumbest shit, things you wouldn't imagine!!! And you are going to be treated like a scumbag by the police and the jail officers even though you are only there for an unpaid fine or something stupid like that!!! It's crazy!!!! And remember this is the land of the free and home of the regulated!!!
When they get a warrant they have the legal rights to bust down your shit and haul your ass off to the slammer. This is why you never even open the door to police. If you literally just don't answer your door they will go away. They might come back later but if they get your ass don't say shit to them.
If a cop came to my door wanting to get inside or wanting me to go outside I would not only ask to see a copy of a duly authorized warrant but also the supporting affidavit that accompanied it, with facts and specific information as to what the cops were allowed to do.
OMG, a sanctioned, licensed liar saying, "you can trust me!" My opinion, one of the biggest mistakes the courts ever made was ruling that police can lie. The way I understand it, they are allowed to lie when interrogating a suspect, i.e. an individual who has been arrested and is in custody. When it carries over into day-to-day interactions with citizens, it drives a huge wedgs between law enforcement and citizens. Do you know when a cop is lying? When their lips are moving.
The Supreme Court had yo make it possible for the police to lie. They know how stupid the Cops are and that no criminals would be caught. So they are willing to let the rights of some get trampled....sad state of affairs
That cop did everything but offer the guy $50 bucks to come out. Can only imagine what that cop's girlfriend (if he has one) goes through when she says NO to his advances......😳
If statistics are to be believed there is a 40% chance he beats her into compliance. So long as he's in good standing with the rest of the police department he'll never face consequences for it either.
The first words out of his mouth should have been "Show me the warrant" and he should just repeat that over and over. Never argue with the police. Never argue with the police.
They wanted to get him out of the house on the pretext of this simple warrant so the other department could take him on the other one. What shady action.
A friend of mine who had some scuffles with the law was in the county jail in New Mexico. He had an appearance date at the courthouse in the next county over while he was in the lockup. The jail he was in refused to provide transport and the court he was supposed to appear at in the next county over refused to provide transport. Mind you, he is in custody and can't just drive himself to the next county. End result? A bench warrant was issued for FTA which meant that when he was released in one county he was immediately re-arrested on the bench warrant.
Can’t transfer you for court but can transfer you for the warrant you got for missing the court date we wouldn’t transfer you for. Perfect legal system logic.
That's just straight up petty phuckery. Anybody responsible for something like that needs to go directly to jail. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. & must be banned from any govt job in the future.
Don't do it . Ex wife lied , cops came to the door and said the same thing .. I can see the judge right away .. saw the judge after hours in holding all was dismissed and the sob's kept me over night .. don't do it
Incorrect. There is not nor has there ever been a legal requirement that warrants be on paper. Electronic warrants are legitimate. But these pigs didn't even have that.
Its just bait to try and lure him outside so they can act on the warrant. If they had an arrest warrant, they don't need him to come out, once they see him, they can bust down the door if necessary to arrest him.
Everyone is a lawyer. Warrants DO NOT have to be served. Only summonses do. Nobody has to show anyone a warrant. It only has to legitamately exist at the time. Warrents are usually shown to people, but that is only a courtesy. It's not required to show it.
I think I know why they wanted to take him. In my town, I once had a warrant for a city code violation. It was a mistake by the code enforcement officer. But they take you in so you have to post bail. It just so happens in my town that the bail amount is also the fine amount for the code violation. So getting your money back depends upon wether or not the magistrate convicts you of the code violation. They take the money from you up front. Unless you know the laws, and can prove they violated their own procedures they will take your money. That’s what this is about. $$$$$
This sheriff is literally trying to bargain his way to arresting this guy. Damn tyrants !!! Threatening him with a longer arrest time is just wrong smh
I'd love to see a follow-up on this but I'm 90% sure the cops are dishounoring themselves lieing to him. Takes but a second to print out the warrant if it exists.
The county I live in operates like this. I know from personal experience. I had no clue I had been formally charged with anything, found out when 2 county cars show up at the house with a warrant. Luckily I wasn't home so I turned myself in and denied them arresting me at my house. 3 court dates and days of work missed, last time I was there they said they were looking into amending the charges. 15+ years later I have never heard anything back and they kept the bond money. FTP.
It's simple, folks. If they have a warrant they won't chit chat or entertain any questions. They are busting down your door and dragging your ass out before you can say anything. If they are engaging in a back and forth, they do NOT have a warrant.
The cop would arrest him the minute he steps out the door. He is lying thru his teeth. Would imagine if they have warrant they would of went in house and made arrest
Obviously there's something personal with them wanting to take him in so bad. When do they knock on doors other than murder, drug dealing, rapists ect. This is really messed up. They're setting things up where we're going to start not trusting any of them. This makes me sick.
@Sylvester Bester Tester I already don't. Watching police crimes, lies and overall abuse of authority across the country has completely eroded any trust I had in their profession. Thay are not there to protect and serve me or you. The courts and "Thin Blue Line" are what they serve. "
Yeah, that is because the bench warrant wasn't legal or there wasn't a real bench warrant. They used the term Bench Warrant to scare the guy into compliance because they need his compliance. The reason the bench warrant here is an issue is because legally you can't issue a bench warrant without signed acknowledgement you received the court date and time (or were physically in court when given the information verbally). Because from the guy's statements we know he didn't sign no acknowledgement of a court case, there couldn't be a legal bench warrant. So the tactic here was to make the guy believe there is one. They computer would make it LOOK like there is one even though there wasn't really. All warrants are on PAPER signed by a judge. They can't sign a warrant electronically unless there are some new laws that I am unaware of (googling never found any). So once they got him outside, they would have surrounded him so he couldn't get away without touching an officer even if it meant brushing up against them. Then, they would say that he assaulted an officer so they HAD to put him under arrest if he tried to get away. At this point, it is a stand off of either comply with going to the court house with us or stand here all day with the threat of a real arrest if you try to get away. This is how they FORCE you to comply without a legal warrant.
Mmm. Qualified immunity for police and judicial Immunity for judges. Almost like the entire system created laws to protect itself from being held accountable.
Repeat after me: "My lawyer is acting on my behalf and I refuse to leave my property. Get off my property or I'll consider you trespassing. I have nothing else to say to you. Talk to my attorney"
I've heard that before: "Look if you cooperate, it'll go better for you. If not, we'll throw the book at you." If you could throw the book at me, you'd be doing it. You would not be asking for my cooperation.
Same game as "If you give us what we want, we can make a deal on how much time you serve, etc., etc.." No cop has the authority to make deals on sentencing. Where I live, a Crown prosecutor might be able to make a deal by dropping or amending charges, but even then, sentence or punishment is always up to a judge.
this would never happen if they're qualified to Muni was taken away that's why there's a disconnect that's why they're lying left and right that's why there's no transparency accountability fire them all
Put a law at the federal level, a certain level of misconduct and a city or county is stripped of its ability to issue fines, hold court, or pay police. Automatically. Watch them start towing that line because the local governments are only after money, they lose the ability to monetize the local law enforcment or pay for its enforcement and it'll wither on the vine. They'll pull back on misconduct if it threatens the continued existence of their city or county job.
This is so wrong they harassed this man and didn't even show a warrant how does cops get away with doing these things who teaches them and who helps them who's the corrupt one is the union the cops or the judge or All above these things need to be changed
Before we got to the halfway point I would have told them to leave my property, closed the door and ended the conversation. My next step would have been to call the court and clarified EXACTLY what was going on! If the officers lied I would have contacted a lawyer and started a lawsuit.
This is what he SHOULD have done. If there as an issue, you could have handled with the courts directly by asking them when is a good time for you to come in (after the officers left and were long gone, taking a different route in then the obvious one so they can't pull you over).
@@jasonpierce1980 It didn't do you wonders because no they cannot enter your home for a bench warrant. The only way they can enter your home is if they have an investigative warrant. A FTA warrant is minor as it gets. You should learn how to use Google so that you don't look dumb telling someone else to.
Imagine living a lifestyle where multiple agencies turn up at your door to serve warrants. he must have been nervous as hell leaving the house that week thinking he was going to get picked up.
@@beekeeper8474 correct. They said they would wait to pick him up during the week, so he must have been nervous going to town for food, gas, or cigarettes that week.
what an eye opening video, i could never trust a cop. I remember one time chilling with my 5 year old we waved at some sherriff guys with black shades and they just mean mugged us the whole time and i thought, " dam... if my kid is searching for help i think they would be the last people he would ask"... today i cant eve trust one cop. he is 13 and i teach him to not speak to the police and ask for your parents because he is a minor.
I don't know about elsewhere, but here in Florida most of the time if a cop is being a jerk it's a sherriff not a police officer. I wonder if all those old westerns have imprinted a certain mindset into the culture of sherriff departments over the years. Like the classic scene of the gunslinging law-man walking into the saloon like he owns the place and scanning everyone with suspicion. It seems like sherriffs view everyone as a potential enemy. Even police officers here talk about how sherriffs are too gung-ho about the job. Basically calling them paranoid and snake-like. Police will keep a cuff or 2 on their belt in case they need to make arrests, meanwhile some sherriffs walk around with up to 4 or 5 cuffs and a ton of zip-tie cuffs.
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if they have a warrant for his arrest can't they go into the house and arrest him ? I'm missing something
if thay dont care wtf are they doing at this mans home ?
I believe the could've arrested him if he had an arrest warrant. a bench warrant is different in that they can't go looking for you or stop you without probable cause. they probably didn't like him and wanted to pick him up so he would have to spend time in a cell till they could schedule a new court date. I'm guessing it was a Friday so he would have to wait till Monday. they have all kinds of b.s. tricks they use. that why my answer is I don't answer questions. they aren't your friends and their only goal is to fish and arrest someone. your not obligated to help them with anything, especially since anything you say can and will be held against you in a court of law.
Why do people continue to talk with cops? If there lips are moving there lying. Call your lawyer and have them take care of it. Have them buckle and bounce!
The court system does need to get reformed....our government employees don't speak up on our behalf
"We're here to enforce a warrant."
"Let's see it."
"We don't have it."
Who the hell goes to pick someone up on a warrant and doesn't bring the warrant?
Dirty cops
Traitors and liars do.....
Someone who doesnt have an actual warrant.
Law enforcement are liars! Do not open the door! If they have a warrant they will break down your door!
Contact your attorney immediately!!
😀😄😆🤣
When they’re lawfully PERMITTED TO LIE to the citizens, there’s not a single word I’d ever believe coming out of any cop’s mouth…
Cop: Everything I say to you is a lie.
I’m lying to you now.
Citizen: Truth, Justice, and the
American way.
Destroying the public's trust destroys policing effectiveness. As if they care for anything past the pay check.
They never even tell him if there is a bond amount.
Agreed 100 %.
I wouldn't leave my house to go out to the cop car. No way! That's how they get you
If the cops really had a warrant, they would have kicked the door in and arrested him. The fact that they didn't leads me to believe there wasn't a warrant. Speaking from experience.
It's just a basic bench warrant, has to be a felony warrant for them to start kicking in doors, if you got a failure to appear on a misdemeanor they would probably let you slide and pick you up later
If I have a warrant for you, even if it's a misdemeanor, I'm going to give you once chance to come out, then I'm kicking in your door and coming in with my gun drawn. You had your chance, now you sit in jail until the judge wants to see you. Either things are different in that state or they didn't have a warrant. All I need is a warrant from a judge, no matter if anyone has been notified, and I can seize (arrest) you. These cops were being really nice, trying to help this guy out, but he's a knucklehead.
@@tealwraith9045 Go ahead and try that. If I don't see the warrent and you kink in my door I hope that soft vest is rated level 4 because I'll start dumping .308. One of us is guaranteed to die then.
@@tealwraith9045 HA HA HA HA HA HA and HA keep tripping dude
@@tealwraith9045 Assuming you are an officer the law, do you want to give me your name, badge #, and department you work for?
“I don’t have a paper copy.”
“Come back when you do.”
Police aren't required to carry paper copies of arrest warrants. Do you expect an officer that randomly encounters a wanted person to have a physical copy of that particular wanted person's warrant?
@@John-oo8dn if you are attending a place specifically for the purpose of serving a warrant I expect you to come prepared by having a physical copy of the actual warrant.
@@ThatGuy182545 It doesn't really matter what you expect. They don't have to do it. If you think that's wrong, petition your legislature to make it a legal requirement.
@reamebjp only...they don't
@@John-oo8dnthat’s a lot of words to say you love sucking off cops. Bet you swallow like a good boy 😂
"Just come out and I'll show you the warrant" is the cop version "I got free candy, just get in the van kid."
That's the Candyman Dean Corll 😵💫
Exactly b
FREAKIN PERFECTLY SAID!! 😂😂
I’m sure it’s all an accident
😂 LMAO 🤣
If they had a warrant, they wouldn't keep asking him to come outside.
It is a Bench Warrant, or Attachment, not a Arrest Warrant for a criminal offense. They cannot enter the home to remove him. They are not supposed to be actively seeking to enforce the Attachment. The man can just the same contact the Judge and explain himself, the misunderstanding, ect and the Judge can recall the attachment. That is all it is, the Judge wants to know why he didn't appear. Law Enforcement, are supposed to bring him in, IF they have contact with him. NOT tracking him down like a criminal.
@Areu Kiddingme why didn't they enter then?
@Areu Kiddingme lmfao, how about learning the difference between an arrest warrant and a warrant that lets police enter your home.
Those are very separate warrants. One grants them lawful entry into your home the other grants them arresting powers if you cross their paths. They can't just show up at your home with a supposed arrest warrant and take you into custody.
That would violate the castle doctrine. I would suggest you learn your rights before telling people about theirs.
Unless you yourself are in law enforcement and in that case.
Go 🖕 yourself "in tom cruise voice"
If they had a warrant they'd break in and pummel. If it proved difficult to break in they'd set fire to smoke him out (Waco style).
They might. Police generally don't want to force their way in unless they have to. But after five minutes or so, they'd stop talking and just kick the door in. The fact that they never just came in and arrested him, even AFTER several minutes of discussion, shows what they have was a summons, not a warrant.
I'm glad he denied them, but I think the better strategy is to simply refuse to talk to them. Don't answer the door. Don't open the curtains. Don't engage at all.
David Lakes agreed.
Problem is they can just stake out his home and jump him as soon as he steps outside. Confronting them on recording and outed their lies protects him far better then just trying to run and hide.
@@solidmoon8266 but they can’t arrest him without a warrant. Even if they jump on me i’d keep quiet and ask for a lawyer.
@@solidmoon8266 That is why you are always armed. So you can REPEL attacks inside and OUTSIDE the home. I only saw 3 very incompetent popo's, a revolver can handle them.
@Solidmoon you have an interesting idea of what law enforcement can legally do
NEVER EVER believe anything a cop tells you. Especially when they tell you, "I'm trying to help you out ".
Anyone that’s ever dealt with the court system knows full well, the judge isn’t sitting there waiting on someone with a warrant to get brought in, especially if the warrant is several weeks or months old. Typical lying cops.
You have never delt with the NYS court system and bail reform laws. These are catch and release warrants. The judge couldn't put the guy in jail even if they wanted to. The judge doesn't want to get woke up in the middle of the night just to waive there finger at someone and asking them to pretty please come to court on the next date.
@@jasonsherman5194 of course not, I don’t live there.
Ikr?
He wanted him to think they would walk in the front door, he could talk to the judge & the cop would wait for him while he finished business then he'd give him a ride back home.
Like a service or something!
Yeah right!
They were going to book him, process him & add those fees & fines & who knows when the judg would see him!
Hell no! This cop was BIG TIME lying! He was insulting dudes intelligence so much by saying just come out to the car so I can show you the warrant n I won't even put u in the car. Well why didn't you just bring the warrant in the 1st place. No one with an FTA just walks in sees the judge n walks out AND gets a ride home from the same cop that brought u in! Those cop rides r usually a 1 way ticket.
Gangsters. Straight truth!
They should NOT be allowed to lie about having a warrant!
they lie about anything and everything to get you to comply.
You dang right!
They shouldn’t have the legal authority to lie,period.
they should not be allowed to lie -about having a warrant-
there. fixed it
I can understand a detective lying to catch an elusive serial killer, but not lying to people in order to circumvent their rights.
Lying is second nature to cops.
First nature
They probably receive more hours training to lie than understand the law.
No warrant in hand, no warrant exists.
I was with Company A 6th engineers from 1991-1996
@@baconknightt I saw an old dog take a shit in 1994
In 96 drinking medicine was fun because of the added sugar.
Where is the warrant don’t fall into a trap opening the door or going outside
Not just a warrant in hand.... but I saw a video where police claimed they had a warrant to arrest some migrant guy, but the guy driving the car was a lawyer and asked if it was signed by a judge. The cop said it wasn't. The lawyer replied that it's not a legal warrant if the judge didn't sign it.
This seems like a mafia shake down.
“You see my guy(judge), you pay my guy(judge) and we’ll fix it after you pay.” Extortion at its purest.
Doesn't the Mafia actually punish failure?
"I'll bring you right back!" Proof he's lying!
Cops never give rides home ever… This motherfucker is lying through his teeth.
On the way back, we will get some coffee and doughnuts. I promise. 😂😂
This is the biggest lie that I have ever heard before and I've heard it a few times. Although none of those were for me I did have friends and family that it happened to.
DON'T GO WITH THE COPS UNLESS THEY HAVE A WARRANT!
If they really had a warrant for his arrest, the cops would have kicked the door in and arrested him. They had no warrant.
It would be an actual warrant, not one put on a computer screen. Unless it was a no-knock one. Doesn't look like they have had much exercise either.
@@55Quirll Why do I feel FEAR when a Cop approaches me, instead of feeling SAFE in the presence of a Police Officer?
Cops are the dregs and scourge of good society.
@@55Quirll Payten v. New York. An arrest warrant allows them to enter a property if they have reason to believe the named person is in there. If they had one they could have kicked his door in and taken him. They had nothing.
@@anon4854 True, but they do their best to lie so that they can do what they want. Very sad about that.
"We don't care." "Ok. I don't care either. I'm ordering you to leave my property and I will not speak to you without an attorney present. Thank you and have a wonderful day." End of interaction.
I've got four lawyers that I went to school with. Guaranteed that in a situation I'm calling every one of them!
Do not go with them. And it sucks that police are allowed to lie for any reason to their fellow citizens. I blame the Supreme Court for not providing limitations on that practice. It is misused all the time.
If there is a warrant, law enforcement will take the person into custody.
Supreme Court is misleading, they are meant for creating division.
That seemed like a no bond warrant; he would not get out.
You can't have limitations about cops lying to us, undercover cops, missions and investigations would be useless in justice system and would never hold at court. But it's shame that police is abusing that power for their own personal interests and benifites.
It may be misused constantly,but the underlying theme is it generates revenue.Ask yourself this.If certain people are benefiting financially,even at the expense of mistreating law abiding citizens,why would they stop the money train?This system that we are a part of makes us slaves to the perceived authority.Cameras on public servants are the only thing left to attempt to hold on to our rights.The rights,the US GOVERNMENT doesn't care about currently.
This cop is begging him to come out ! There's something wrong. Close the curtains .
When they have lawful grounds they don’t beg they barge in.
I’d be upstairs on my RING DOORBELL CAM, I’d say I’m not home!! But I’ll be home in an hour hahahaahah make them wait
The Cop is making a total ass of himself
They all do
the three stooges showed up at his door that day.
Not to them, they are upstanding bad a** mother fu***rs no matter WHAT. Sadly we all know 80% of cops are pansy’s hiding behind their badge and couldnt fight their way out of a wet paper bag
How do you know a cop is lying? Their mouths are open!
😂😂😂😂😂
"They're breathing. "
💥🎤👋
@@lindseywalker6925 Just wanted to say that. Right.
Did that cop actually say "YOU HAVE MY WORD ON IT?". That's actually hilarious.
I'm sorry, but a notarized CONTRACT will suffice. Do you have a notary out their?
I'd rather trust a crime lord.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
A cop's word is turd.
Filthy pigs
They are phuckin liars! If they had a valid warrant, they would break down that door and arrest him. Never take the word of a cop! They can lie with impunity and never be held accountable for it. I will never talk to a cop at my door and I most certainly will never open the door to them. Kick rocks!!!
Arrest warrant is not a warrant for search.
@@iam4740 But, if they know he is there they can enter. They are talking to him so they know he is there. They are lying about the warrant.
@@iam4740 correct an arrest warrant does not grant them legal entry unless they physically see the person that has said warrant then they can legally enter that home. No cop on earth is going to walk away from an arrest if there was an actual arrest warrant.
@@jordanl5628 I thought that an arrest warrant was for the person. And that they would need a separate warrant for entry. Learned something new.
You guys don't understand NYS's new bail reform laws. These are catch and release warrants. The judge can't put the guy in jail even if they want to. Besides force used in an arrest must be reasonable and necessary. Smashing down a door for a catch and release bench warrant is certainly unreasonable.
If they had an actual warrant, they would’ve taken them by force
Yes and no, usually YES you are right. Bench Warrants though are generally being handed out like candy from judges anymore and they tell Sheriffs NOT to use force because legally they can only hand them out when people sign acknowledgement of a court date and time. Since they can't get that most of the time (people ignoring mail or knocks on door), they will issue them anyways and Sheriffs will "GET YOU TO COMPLY" usually like this Sheriff was trying to do.
If this guy stepped outside the house, they would have NOT have let him back inside and would have told him he had no choice but to go. His COMPLIANCE would have been giving up at that point and they would have blocked him from getting back into the house as they had 2 back up officers ready to go. They would have surrounded him and then if he would have tried to push past them, assault on an officer for touching that officer! This would have been a stand off until he backed down.
These are the tactics they use when the courts want their child support money and they don't have the legal power to force you into their court room.
But...there's a difference between an arrest warrant and a search warrant.
If they can see you, they can take you with a bench warrant
@@cyclaunch2251If they know he’s there, technically they could force entry to apprehend
It all depends on what the warrant is for. A traffic warrant where you forgot a court date for a speeding offense, they probably won't kick the door.
A bench warrant for a failure to appear for a felony DUI, they'll kick the door.
An arrest warrant for a misdemeanor shoplifting offense. Might not kick the door.
A warrant for Home Invasion and Sexual Assault case...yeah that door is getting kicked.
They get SO offended when somebody expresses their distrust. Maybe if they weren't such a bunch of tyrants, they wouldn't be so hated.
The blatant lies of those law-enforcement officers was disgusting in the extreme!
So, you don’t believe they would’ve taken him to see the judge real quick then given him a ride home?🤣🤣🤣
It's standard operating procedure.
They don't care because no matter what, these tyrants never face financial loses for their tyranny.
End qualified immunity. End police unions!
They usually receive a promotion for being good domestic terrorist.
Also... if they have a warrant for his arrest why are they not arresting him. Hes right there.
They can't enter a home with just an arrest warrant. To enter the home they need a search warrant specifying who or what is to be seized UNLESS they are in "hot pursuit" of a suspect.
@@garygemmell3488 That is true but having him in vision would give them enough reason to break into the home to get him for said warrant.
@@bizzwag They don't have the warrant on them. And cops lie. The warrant is not a for a felony. Failure to appear in court for minor charge is not a felony.
If they do bust down his door and arrest the cops and the city can get sued violating his 4th amendment rights.
Because they are literally trained to lie to us. Never speak to a cop, don’t even nod in their direction.
@@garygemmell3488 of coarse not. Not to legally enter his home. That’s why they wanted to lure him out where they could harm him.
The biggest lie ever uttered is "I'm from the government and I'm here to help!"
No. The biggest lie ever uttered was "this election is rigged "
That’s not what my grandfather said about the Great Depression. He, and millions of others, went to work for the CCC and helped to feed their families.
Good government made sure I didn’t get polio the way my father did.
When Ronald Reagan said that he was busy tripling the national debt.
So, bad government for me and great government for the rich.
NEVER answer the door to police or anyone you don't know or aren't expecting. If they have a warrant, let them break down the door.
Kind of a lose/lose scenario though cause then you're out the cost of the door. Zero chance they will pay for it no matter how innocent or even uninvolved you are. Not only that but, your house would be wide open for thieves while you are 'detained'.
And now you've just cost yourself the price of a broken door when had you simply gone peacefully once shown the warrant, you'd not have to deal with that expense. Way to cost yourself several hundred dollars for nothing.
Once you've VERIFIED that there is indeed a warrant for your arrest, making the police break in is just plain stupid. All it gets you is your property destroyed WITHOUT any right to be compensated since the police were acting lawfully at the time.
@John Burrows
Except that NO MATTER WHAT they are not going to pay for repairs to your door or door frame, which can EASILY involve a comma in the $ amount.
@@ajm5007 agreed
@@spearamintwolf6225 That would normally be true EXCEPT the law says you can not issue a bench warrant without a signed acknowledgement of court documents or the next court date and time were given to you in the last court case. So basically, if you know you didn't sign any paperwork, then there is either no Bench Warrant or the Bench Warrant is not legal and either way you are in the right.
"You have a warrant?" "No, it's on the computer, I can show you if you come out " "Go get a paper warrant and come back." "Bye"
In order for a warrant to be lawful, it must be SIGNED BY A JUDGE and TIMELY FILED. If those two things don't exist, the warrant doesn't exist, no matter what they say. It may be "in their system", but if they can't CERTIFY a properly written warrant, IT WAS NEVER ISSUED.
People need letter slots for doors again. "Don't worry about needing the door to open, Officer. Just put those warrant papers in the letter slot."
If they can't show you a warrant it's because it doesn't exist. Why stand at the door and argue with them. Tell them show me the warrant or leave my property and shut the door. They were just trying to get you to walk off your property so they could pounce.
It's a Jedi mind trick, v sometime the cops will say something stupid on camera to get them suspended or fired or sued
They just needed him outside, not even off the property.
@@gregkasza1925 right
The 1st time that Tyrant said he didn't have a paper warrant should have been the last statement he made! "You're trespassing get off my property now" PERIOD
At least he can get ALL their lies on video in case he ACTUALLY has to go to court... Just let em hang themselves..
Abolish qualified immunity
Cops would beg for accountability if 2A wasn't so impotent in the hands of cowardly Americans
Fuckin' A!
"Word of Mouth Warrants" are NOT a warrant! Produce the warrant or KICK ROCKS! Whether your at home or out in public! 😱😝🤪🤣👍👍🇺🇲
Works that way for search warrants, doesn't work that way for arrest warrants. They do not need a physical copy of the arrest warrant in their hands. It can be communicated via computer or over the radio...as long as the proper confirmation process has been followed.
They keep threatening to hold him for 3 days to get arraigned. Stay away from evil people no matter what they tell you
No warrant in hand,get off my property
"You have my word on it!"
Thank you, Joe Isuzu!
Never trust a word out of their mouths. If there's a warrant the sheriff should show it to the accused through the window. If there's a warrant why didn't this citizen call an attorney to handle the surrender and why didn't the deputy let him know calling his attorney was an option.
Citizen: "show me the warrant"
Cop:" I don't have it"
Later:
Citizen: again, "show me the
Warrant"
Cop: " I don't have a copy with me"...
Cops: Graduates with Honor's
From University of Tricks & Lies...Sad.
Yes
Literally the first line of NY's criminal procedure law for arrest/bench warrants: "The officer need not to have the warrant in his possession".
@@jasonsherman5194 Noted, yet that is a law that should be changed. Teaching kindness and respect, far more difficult.
@@sturgislawler2611 wrongfully accusing someone of "tricks and lies" part of that kindness and respect training?
@@jasonsherman5194 Saying it's "Literally the first line" is a lie though, isn't it? It's not even on the first line of §120.80 where your quote appears. You also failed to mention the rest of the sentence.
They are not there to HELP him! Glad he didn't fall for it!!!
If they had a warrant... That door would have been kicked down.
The patriot act needs to be abolished, it is the reason why police think they have the power now. They need to be accountable and actually serve and protect.
They aren’t patriots tho they’re a gang for the elite the military support us is that the government uses them for geopolitical wars and bullshit but they’re waking up and the government is chewing more then it can chew now
They serve capitalism and protect property and power of the wealthy.
Bitch please. Cops were just as bad BEFORE the Patriot Act.
thank you, bush, jr., for the patriot act
The Patriot Act is a nonfactor, it expired in 2020 and hasn't been renued so it is a now defunct law that holds no power legally.
They want him outside, they'll clear him and the area of cameras, turn theirs off, and given him a beating like he's never known.
Ive had some serious beatings I dont see these guys topping .
I went to court for slapping someone for harrassing my wife at the time . My court date was at 10am and at the court they kept on pushing my case back and back . My wife and a few people notice that the judge and the lawyer looked pissed . Come to find out they wanted me to leave so they can get a warrant
Entrapment.
You admit to battery, and you don’t think there’s cause for a warrant against you?
@@jonathanhansen3709 Eh, Justifiable self defense and defense of others.
@@jonathanhansen3709 not if he's already at court. You get that they were trying to frustrate him in to leaving so they could collude and issue a bench warrant, then he's gotta pay more.
And plus it looks really good to the courts when you show up this was def an act to cause more issues down the road you came on your own knowing you were in the right plain and simple
If they truly had a warrent they would have busted his door in to arrest him.
I stopped trusting the cops a long time ago.
I think I was 12, long long time ago. When I grew up, we had cops on both sides as neighbors. I was always taught to find a cop if I was in trouble. Now I gotta teach my 15 year old grandson to NEVER let them in the house, never talk to one at school. Of course, also had to teach him that our govt is full of homicidal, lying psychopaths. Better informed early than having your world upended in later life.
why do they want him to come out without showing him the warrant? because they are lying!
My wife had a very similar experience with the way that the American justice system operates, she had a traffic ticket and she was not able to make it to the court on the day that she was supposed to be there, and it wasn't because she was being anarchic or she was avoiding being held accountable, she had no way of being able to get there because of the fact that she lived very far from the county where she was given the ticket and she had no way to get there and she tried to get the court clerk to give her a new date so she could arrange transportation to get there, but they wouldn't do anything to help her and she was given warrant after warrant for not being in court on the date that she was given, and that led to her being arrested many times for the same traffic ticket and the police acted like she was on America's most wanted list and the police would come at her with their guns out and with multiple officers who were the most disrespectful and ignorant scumbags that I have ever seen especially when it was about a fucking traffic ticket!!!
Same here.. was 15 minutes past set time for court.. denied entry and told a warrant will be issued by end of day..30 days later 6 pbso showed up guns drawn at all 3 doors at home.. said if don't open door will bust door down..went in for booking, was back home in 4 hours..in the end traffic ticket was thrown out...all about money and numbers..to stain ones record for life..
You do know you can call ahead days later and sit to be seen by the judge right? She didn’t have to go to jail. Just show up when she could. The judge would cancel the warrant after being seen. I missed by a day one time because I completely forgot. And called and walked in. I just had to wait for my license to be suspended then immediately get it taken off once it showed up in the system.
I had a similar experience, although not repetitious:
I got a speeding ticket October 1986. No court date on ticket.
I called the Muni Court for the court date.
The lady said July 17, 1987.
I said "JULY??"
She said July 17th.
I said "Sure, okay, I'll just plan my whole YEAR around it!"
Turned out it was for JANUARY 17th (a couple months after the ticket date)
I was at home when the cops came to haul me in on a bench warrant that had been issued for my arrest.
So overnight in the gray-bar hotel.
I explained to the Judge that - when I called for my court date, I was told July 17th. And repeated my quip about planning my whole year around "the event".
He said, "in light of this gross misunderstanding, I am quashing the ticket."
He threw it out - it was a "38 in a 35 zone" ticket - and said it was too ridiculous to expect that it would be 6 or more months according to all rules of the court at that time.
I said "I didn't expect it would be scheduled 6+ months out, either, and that maybe the lady at the Court office was planning HER summer vacation when I called for my court date.
He was very nice about it.
It never showed up on my driving abstract either.
@@MagesseT1
What makes your case completely insane is that you were arrested for a traffic ticket!!! I'm sorry but getting arrested for a traffic ticket is nuts especially in this country!! In this country today, you can get arrested for the dumbest shit, things you wouldn't imagine!!! And you are going to be treated like a scumbag by the police and the jail officers even though you are only there for an unpaid fine or something stupid like that!!! It's crazy!!!! And remember this is the land of the free and home of the regulated!!!
Professional Liar at "Work"! Ends qualified immunity only then something will change!
If they had a warrant they wouldn't be standing there arguing about coming outside.
When they get a warrant they have the legal rights to bust down your shit and haul your ass off to the slammer. This is why you never even open the door to police. If you literally just don't answer your door they will go away. They might come back later but if they get your ass don't say shit to them.
If they had a warrant to arrest you, they'd kick in the door.
If they have a warrant for him why can't they show it to him? Doesn't make sense at all.
If a cop came to my door wanting to get inside or wanting me to go outside I would not only ask to see a copy of a duly authorized warrant but also the supporting affidavit that accompanied it, with facts and specific information as to what the cops were allowed to do.
IMAGINE A WORLD WHERE THERE ARE GOOD COPS
We refer to them as CEMETERIES. Not one single dead cop causing problems.
There are good cops
@@drowningin But they are no longer cops. They are dead, or fled the country to keep from being killed.
@@robertsmith2956 oOoOOh edgy! 🙄
@@drowningin Truth. Serpico fled to Switzerland, and is alive. Pusser didn't and is dead.
OMG, a sanctioned, licensed liar saying, "you can trust me!"
My opinion, one of the biggest mistakes the courts ever made was ruling that police can lie. The way I understand it, they are allowed to lie when interrogating a suspect, i.e. an individual who has been arrested and is in custody.
When it carries over into day-to-day interactions with citizens, it drives a huge wedgs between law enforcement and citizens.
Do you know when a cop is lying?
When their lips are moving.
“I’m not gonna lie to ya, won’t even cuff ya~just come on out and let me show it to you” 👌
Riiiiiight
Liar liar liar 🤥 🤥 🤥
The Supreme Court had yo make it possible for the police to lie. They know how stupid the Cops are and that no criminals would be caught. So they are willing to let the rights of some get trampled....sad state of affairs
It's always amazing how bold these kinda cops are, but they'd never do this to actual crooks.
If they had a warrant, they wouldn't be talking.
That cop did everything but offer the guy $50 bucks to come out. Can only imagine what that cop's girlfriend (if he has one) goes through when she says NO to his advances......😳
If statistics are to be believed there is a 40% chance he beats her into compliance. So long as he's in good standing with the rest of the police department he'll never face consequences for it either.
I have a warrant for that pussy. if you dont let me in im going to arrest you for contempt of pig.
They look like the type of cops that could only get a date with chloroform
If they had a warrant they could enter and arrest....they were lying
The cop's logic is totally effed up. Cancel these cops with extreme prejudice.
Cancel them with 2A. Make 2A useful for once.
If he had a warrant there would be no conversation, the door would have been kicked in.
The first words out of his mouth should have been "Show me the warrant" and he should just repeat that over and over.
Never argue with the police. Never argue with the police.
They wanted to get him out of the house on the pretext of this simple warrant so the other department could take him on the other one. What shady action.
A friend of mine who had some scuffles with the law was in the county jail in New Mexico. He had an appearance date at the courthouse in the next county over while he was in the lockup. The jail he was in refused to provide transport and the court he was supposed to appear at in the next county over refused to provide transport. Mind you, he is in custody and can't just drive himself to the next county. End result? A bench warrant was issued for FTA which meant that when he was released in one county he was immediately re-arrested on the bench warrant.
Can’t transfer you for court but can transfer you for the warrant you got for missing the court date we wouldn’t transfer you for. Perfect legal system logic.
That’s entirely purposeful. This is how bad our system is. Top to bottom.
So inhuman. I’m so sorry 😞 . Thank you all for telling us this ., !
That's just straight up petty phuckery. Anybody responsible for something like that needs to go directly to jail. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. & must be banned from any govt job in the future.
Yup and if he makes it to court then he a very lucky man most of the people would be murdered!!
Don't do it . Ex wife lied , cops came to the door and said the same thing .. I can see the judge right away .. saw the judge after hours in holding all was dismissed and the sob's kept me over night .. don't do it
A Warrant HAS TO BE SERVED, they have to have a paper form to show, not on a computer
Incorrect. There is not nor has there ever been a legal requirement that warrants be on paper. Electronic warrants are legitimate. But these pigs didn't even have that.
Its just bait to try and lure him outside so they can act on the warrant. If they had an arrest warrant, they don't need him to come out, once they see him, they can bust down the door if necessary to arrest him.
Creepy thing is they end up sounding like kidnappers trying to get you to go to their car
Everyone is a lawyer. Warrants DO NOT have to be served. Only summonses do. Nobody has to show anyone a warrant. It only has to legitamately exist at the time. Warrents are usually shown to people, but that is only a courtesy. It's not required to show it.
Right! Patrol cars have printers why don't they just use them?
I think I know why they wanted to take him. In my town, I once had a warrant for a city code violation. It was a mistake by the code enforcement officer. But they take you in so you have to post bail. It just so happens in my town that the bail amount is also the fine amount for the code violation. So getting your money back depends upon wether or not the magistrate convicts you of the code violation.
They take the money from you up front. Unless you know the laws, and can prove they violated their own procedures they will take your money. That’s what this is about. $$$$$
💰and if they think you have evidence on false arrests etc. They will try to kill you!
This sheriff is literally trying to bargain his way to arresting this guy. Damn tyrants !!! Threatening him with a longer arrest time is just wrong smh
If they can't produce a warrant then you don't go !
Why in all this. Don’t they produce the warrant? They lying through there teeth.
I'd love to see a follow-up on this but I'm 90% sure the cops are dishounoring themselves lieing to him. Takes but a second to print out the warrant if it exists.
Cops must have a warrant in their hands ,not on a computer screen.
The story continues on ' Harry Gunnat' . The other channel was hijacked. Thank you for the support!
They lost honor the second they put on a badge
@@johnshaddick6858 simply not true. They don't need possession of the warrant at all to execute it.
@@jasonsherman5194 go Troll somewhere else clown!!!
The county I live in operates like this. I know from personal experience. I had no clue I had been formally charged with anything, found out when 2 county cars show up at the house with a warrant. Luckily I wasn't home so I turned myself in and denied them arresting me at my house. 3 court dates and days of work missed, last time I was there they said they were looking into amending the charges. 15+ years later I have never heard anything back and they kept the bond money. FTP.
It's simple, folks. If they have a warrant they won't chit chat or entertain any questions. They are busting down your door and dragging your ass out before you can say anything. If they are engaging in a back and forth, they do NOT have a warrant.
The cop would arrest him the minute he steps out the door. He is lying thru his teeth. Would imagine if they have warrant they would of went in house and made arrest
Not legal so no they wouldn't. I'm sure he does have a failure to appear (bench warrant) but they cannot do shit unless he steps outside.
If they actually had a warrent for his arrest why aren't they just going in and getting him? Seems fishy for sure.
It's not a search warrant. It's an arrest warrant. They can't go into someone's house unless invited. That's why you don't open the door.
@@richardbutkis considering if they know he there they should be able to get him.
Good luck taxpayers. These unprofessional cops are a clear and present danger to your community.
" Come to my car" and I'll show it to you, that's right up there with " hey little girl wanna come to my car and see my new puppy"?
Obviously there's something personal with them wanting to take him in so bad.
When do they knock on doors other than murder, drug dealing, rapists ect.
This is really messed up.
They're setting things up where we're going to start not trusting any of them.
This makes me sick.
Yup, We'll be seeing you was a definite threat
@Sylvester Bester Tester
I already don't. Watching police crimes, lies and overall abuse of authority across the country has completely eroded any trust I had in their profession. Thay are not there to protect and serve me or you. The courts and "Thin Blue Line" are what they serve. "
Yeah, that is because the bench warrant wasn't legal or there wasn't a real bench warrant. They used the term Bench Warrant to scare the guy into compliance because they need his compliance. The reason the bench warrant here is an issue is because legally you can't issue a bench warrant without signed acknowledgement you received the court date and time (or were physically in court when given the information verbally). Because from the guy's statements we know he didn't sign no acknowledgement of a court case, there couldn't be a legal bench warrant.
So the tactic here was to make the guy believe there is one. They computer would make it LOOK like there is one even though there wasn't really. All warrants are on PAPER signed by a judge. They can't sign a warrant electronically unless there are some new laws that I am unaware of (googling never found any). So once they got him outside, they would have surrounded him so he couldn't get away without touching an officer even if it meant brushing up against them. Then, they would say that he assaulted an officer so they HAD to put him under arrest if he tried to get away. At this point, it is a stand off of either comply with going to the court house with us or stand here all day with the threat of a real arrest if you try to get away.
This is how they FORCE you to comply without a legal warrant.
WE ARE ALREADY THERE.
I already don't. What's wrong with you that you do?
Mmm. Qualified immunity for police and judicial Immunity for judges. Almost like the entire system created laws to protect itself from being held accountable.
That's just it. Congress never voted on QI. Judges just decided cops need it. Then the next thing you know judges have absolute immunity.
Repeat after me: "My lawyer is acting on my behalf and I refuse to leave my property. Get off my property or I'll consider you trespassing. I have nothing else to say to you. Talk to my attorney"
If they had an warrant they would of grabbed him, doors don’t mean shit to piggies
Show me the warrant. Your word is not valid, a legal document is!
exactly. with the affadavit..
Literally the first line of NY's criminal procedure law for arrest/bench warrants: "The officer need not to have the warrant in his possession".
@@harrygunnat8082 no affidavit with a bench warrant.
I've heard that before: "Look if you cooperate, it'll go better for you. If not, we'll throw the book at you."
If you could throw the book at me, you'd be doing it. You would not be asking for my cooperation.
Same game as "If you give us what we want, we can make a deal on how much time you serve, etc., etc.." No cop has the authority to make deals on sentencing. Where I live, a Crown prosecutor might be able to make a deal by dropping or amending charges, but even then, sentence or punishment is always up to a judge.
Wow this conversation goes on forever.
don't trust any of these tyrants liars
this would never happen if they're qualified to Muni was taken away that's why there's a disconnect that's why they're lying left and right that's why there's no transparency accountability fire them all
Put a law at the federal level, a certain level of misconduct and a city or county is stripped of its ability to issue fines, hold court, or pay police. Automatically. Watch them start towing that line because the local governments are only after money, they lose the ability to monetize the local law enforcment or pay for its enforcement and it'll wither on the vine. They'll pull back on misconduct if it threatens the continued existence of their city or county job.
If they had a warrant, they would be coming in.
Another citizen with the right, but not the ability, to remain silent.
This is so wrong they harassed this man and didn't even show a warrant how does cops get away with doing these things who teaches them and who helps them who's the corrupt one is the union the cops or the judge or All above these things need to be changed
They are probably adamant about taking him in because making arrests probably helps them get promotions and pay raises.
They are lying. Don't go with them
The only thing he should have said was "Show me the warrant, or kick rocks!"
Before we got to the halfway point I would have told them to leave my property, closed the door and ended the conversation. My next step would have been to call the court and clarified EXACTLY what was going on! If the officers lied I would have contacted a lawyer and started a lawsuit.
Exactly
USC Title 18 Section 242 Depravation of Rights under color of Law.
This is what he SHOULD have done. If there as an issue, you could have handled with the courts directly by asking them when is a good time for you to come in (after the officers left and were long gone, taking a different route in then the obvious one so they can't pull you over).
If they truly had a warrant for his arrest they wouldn't even ask for him to come outside they would have went through the door.
Not legally
@@dunningkruger4863 a quick Google search will do you wonders. 🤦
@@jasonpierce1980
An arrest warrant does not give them the right to enter private property, they can only arrest you in public.
@@dunningkruger4863 do a quick Google search.
They most certainly can.🤦
@@jasonpierce1980 It didn't do you wonders because no they cannot enter your home for a bench warrant. The only way they can enter your home is if they have an investigative warrant. A FTA warrant is minor as it gets. You should learn how to use Google so that you don't look dumb telling someone else to.
If they had an arrest warrant they would be busting down your door.
Listen to the utter BS coming out of this cop's mouth. If they had a warrant, the door would have already been kicked in.
Imagine living a lifestyle where multiple agencies turn up at your door to serve warrants. he must have been nervous as hell leaving the house that week thinking he was going to get picked up.
They didn't have one
@@beekeeper8474 correct. They said they would wait to pick him up during the week, so he must have been nervous going to town for food, gas, or cigarettes that week.
what an eye opening video, i could never trust a cop. I remember one time chilling with my 5 year old we waved at some sherriff guys with black shades and they just mean mugged us the whole time and i thought, " dam... if my kid is searching for help i think they would be the last people he would ask"... today i cant eve trust one cop. he is 13 and i teach him to not speak to the police and ask for your parents because he is a minor.
I don't know about elsewhere, but here in Florida most of the time if a cop is being a jerk it's a sherriff not a police officer.
I wonder if all those old westerns have imprinted a certain mindset into the culture of sherriff departments over the years. Like the classic scene of the gunslinging law-man walking into the saloon like he owns the place and scanning everyone with suspicion. It seems like sherriffs view everyone as a potential enemy.
Even police officers here talk about how sherriffs are too gung-ho about the job. Basically calling them paranoid and snake-like. Police will keep a cuff or 2 on their belt in case they need to make arrests, meanwhile some sherriffs walk around with up to 4 or 5 cuffs and a ton of zip-tie cuffs.
I was annoyed by the entire exchange.
They cannot impound a car once it's on your property unless they have a warrant specifically for that
They did just that to me 5 months later.