I Bought a Used EV Online! Vlog / 2015 Nissan Leaf
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 พ.ค. 2022
- Is it a good idea to buy a used electric vehicle online, sight unseen? Well, in this video that's exactly what we do through Carvana. I might be a bit late to the EV game, however I'm excited to share what our experience was like, buying it, testing it and playing with it! Next video in this series will go in more depth about charging, discharging, driving etc....
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We got a used Leaf in 2018. My Wife commutes with it and loves it. Now both cars are EVs.
Nice! I can definitely see the appeal of two EVs... even after just one week of driving this, it seems really weird to think about driving the truck, and buying gas!
Lynn, I bought a 2019 Leaf. I was the first person to drive it, 12 Miles on the Odometer, Loved it at first sight and it has never disappointed. I had to tone down my enthusiasm because I was driving everyone crazy about how great my new car was. Now, 22K miles later, gas bought = $0; maintenance expense = $0, (ok I patched a tire for $30) I am so surprised that the Nissan is not considered when people compare EV's - It is a wonderful car.
I agree with everything, though Les Schwab tires patched my tires for free. I did purchase my tires through them. More important is that I have gone through three Nissan brand 12-Volt accessory batteries in my seven years ownership of 2015 Leaf. The third battery seems to be the most stable. 132k miles on the odometer and I am delighted with this car. I did replace the small items like wipers and rear gate struts. Electricity in the Pacific Northwest is among the cheapest, while gas prices are around $5/gallon. I am not missing the expense of gasoline in my budget for my work commuter car.
nissan leaf is air cooled battery, i would buy if it was liquid cooled, like tesla. but now tesla is dropping in price. so i might just go with tesla
O man this is bringing back a lot of memories. I had a 2016 Leaf in the same color but one trim level down. Traded it in for a Model 3. Level 2 charging will really change how you use the car. Looking forward to more videos like this.
Forgot to mention the thing I like most about our Leaf. Absolutely smoking people off the line at the traffic light. I love it when I'm the first car on a four lane road at the traffic light, I easily put 100 yards between me and the car next to me and behind me (exceptions are other electric vehicles).
The Nissan Leaf has a great track record. I know you'll love it. I love my Bolt and been driving it for over 2 years now. I'm planning to add a 240 v receptacle so I can charge a little faster. Great idea to charge it with your solar power.
Very cool!!! Great video Linn 😀
Great overview of the process and experience. And the use case is something I can potentially relate to - a short range errand runner that I don't have to pay to fuel. Thanks for posting, and thumbs up.
Well, you actually still do pay... www.andersoneconomicgroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/EVtransition_FuelingCostStudy_10-21-21.pdf
Just try to keep charging up to 80% SOC and do not deplete the battery often. Additionally, do not worry much on QC, use it when needed. Enjoy!
I drove a first generation Leaf for the first time 9 years ago on Sylt. Now we have a Kia Niro EV. Electric cars are great.
i owe 2011 leaf since 2010. 14 years 320,500km as of today. the best car ever owned. it has all you need, nav system, heated steering wheel, heated seats, AC, garage opener, backup camera. we spent zero dollar for maintaining the car except regular things like , new sets of tires, break fluid change etc. we just replaced the battery with 62KW and now it has 460Km range . Great car. you cannot go wrong with that car
Welcome to the EV world, its simple, they are just better. Lots new to find out. Some EV chargers work better with PV and battery systems and can be set to only charge your EV when you have an excess of electricity. If you tune into the ‘fully charged’ you tube channel there is one episode showing a Leaf’s battery being upgraded to increase its range, if that ever becomes a requirement.
You wrote a perfect introduction to my Nissan Leaf experience. I am an original owner of a 2015 Leaf S trim with 24 kWH battery pack. FYI: The odometer reads over 132,000 miles. Like you, I have been viewing "Fully Charged", "Transport Evolved", "Nissan Leaf Battery Replacement World Map" (Lists EV garages / mechanics to do the upgrade), "James and Kate-the EV Team" and from Holland that the inventor that created electronic module/can-bridge "Dala's EV Repair" th-cam.com/users/DalasEVRepairsearch?query=can-bridge. For a large investment of $14,000 and seven months waiting list, I had upgraded to a healthy 62 kWH Nissan Leaf battery pack. My range expanded from 70 to 200+ miles. I am into my first month of this upgrade. Mild temperatures in the greater Seattle area will promote long battery life. A 2022 extended range Nissan Leaf can be around $37,000+, so this conversion to my paid for 2015 model is economical.
Limit your charging to 80 or 90 percent and don't do DC fast charging more often than you have to and it will last a long time. The battery in the LEAF is not actively cooled and doesn't love hard charging. What they really don't like is being held for days on end at 100 percent state of charge.
We live on a 110 charger for our Kia Niro EV. Lots more range, so it's easier to live with.
I use mostly a 110-Volt charger for my 2015 Nissan Leaf S too, though I have used the fast charger twice weekly, I still had 84% after degradation, or eleven bars at a odometer reading of 131,000 miles. I fast charge to 80% to protect the health of the battery pack.
Fast charging does not degrade the battery quicker
Great video. Super informative. Mahalo for sharing! : )
As an EV owner for the last two years (2019 Kia Niro EV), I would say the novelty has not yet worn off. I love driving the EV. My other car is an ICE Subaru. I want to move up to the electric F150 or the VW Buzz. Congrats on your Leaf!
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How do you like your Niro?? Any cons and pros from your experience
We just bought a 2015 Nissan Leaf and we love it.
Congratulations on your purchase. The dongle + app is very interesting, never heard about such a thing. 70 miles seems not much, but for shopping and small tours it's sufficient.
Thanks for sharing the video. 9 cts per Kwh is really cheap for elektricity. We pay nearly 3 times more in Slovakia.
Thanks for an informative vid.
Darbin, Thanks for this video. I am looking to seeing how you apply your inventive mind and imagination to owning an EV. The Leaf is much underrated. We have a 2018 Leaf that we love.
Nice!
Awesome! I looked at the Leaf a few years ago. Used models were very affordable and a great entry into EVs. Thanks for sharing!
Unfortunately, the recent chip shortage not only slowed or stopped new builds, but also are driving up prices for used cars - including the Leaf.
@@lelandhetrick205 I believe it. When I looked a few years ago, they were maybe $7-10k USD for a Leaf that was only 2-4 years old. Much more affordable than most EVs.
@@michaelwagner3952 So right. Sigh. Those were the days they were price friendly to consumers.
Wow it looks awesome like just now you bought it from the showroom xD you can also add a solar on the car so Nissan batteries will charge a little while driving :) and nice video mam 😊👍
Zero tailpipe - way to go! Buying a pre-owned EV makes sense as long as you check the battery condition, as new EVs are more expensive than gas car equivalent. Winter temperatures do reduce range by around 20 to 30 per cent and faster means more electricity used. So, freeway driving at 60 - 70 mph impacts range quite markedly. Using solar to charge the EV is great, but it does mean you need a domestic battery. Thanks!
These "energy"videos are really interesting! I've missed a couple but I saw them immediately...
Good to hear!
charging is free at my workplace and at my local gym and also at my credit union. I love EV!!!!
Perfect 😀
I started two years ago with a used 2017 Nissan Leaf and like it so much we got a Tesla Model Y a couple of months ago. I'm looking around to figure out what electric vehicle we will pick to replace our third vehicle and be completely electric. One of the things I was most impressed about the Leaf is the acceleration was amazing. Yes, the Tesla does accelerate better but for 1/6 the cost the Leaf is a better value for the money. I'm also looking at adding some solar to charge the vehicles.
It's a really great choice for your first EV. The Nissan Leaf is extremely reliable. I got my first one 4 years ago. Also 2015 SV, since then we traded it for a 2021 Leaf S Plus. It's for my wife. I have a 2021 Bolt Premier. Don't think that we will ever go back to driving an ICE car. We put our solar system 2 months ago. So some say it's free charging. But really there is a cost to the solar system. Besides saving over 300.00 dollars in gas every month, we now are saving an additional 120.00 per month in electrical cost. So in our view they pay for themselves. And yes we now drive more than before. We are retired and my wife has become the taxi service for many that live in our community. Older retired no car types. She loves it and enjoys it. Another saving is she gets free lunches and dinners. She has not had to cook for some time.
I just bought a 2015 Leaf with 32500 miles and 12 bars of health. It is just what I need as I'm retired and have been driving about 5000 miles per year.
I bought a used 2015 Leaf S in 2017. It is down 1 bar in 2022 (very low Quick charges). When I lived in the flat lands, I got 5.2 on my commute. Now I get 4.2 in hilly country.
Tip.: Believe the % display, the Range is a guess that can really be off (low), depending on how it was recently driven.
Tip2: drive gentle (2-3 dots above center) when possible. Coast to stops (green dots) when possible.
I do wish I had a 2018's range as I frequently make 63 mile RT trips with no charge available and can't use the A/C if I am to make it without issue. Still, I really like my Leaf.
Great film and enthusiasm you’ve earned a sub.
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Good luck with the electric vehicle. I appreciate anyone that embraces electric vehicles. Our nations infrastructure is not quite ready yet for electric vehicles. So, good luck and best wishes.
Fast charging does not degrade the battery quicker
Great car
What is the thing you called that nu plugged into the car thatn told u how much the car was plugged into to be charged up? Im not sure what it was called n where do u get it from n how much was it?
hello, can anyone provide link to dongle that measures number of fast charges? i need to buy one
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I definitely "get", and love, all the energy-related projects you have been pursuing/accomplishing over time, RV-related and stationary!
Now, not only do you have the fun of "driving almost for free"--naturally leading to more driving "just for the fun of it"--but also no longer spewing all those emissions into your neighborhood environment (which, for me, before we got an EV, was seriously taking the fun out of optional driving ). All-the-more-so when powered with solar!
What I think is under appreciated about EV's is that when one person wants to go into, say, a store, and the other person (or pet!) wants/needs to remain in the car, it is so nice to be able to operate the environmental controls silently/without having to run an engine! (Our Tesla, with a heat pump, does this quite efficiently, and even has a "dog mode" and a "camping mode" for this purpose!))
I recently bought a Pecron solar generator (for $1899 altogether, (no sales taxes collected on their site)), which has a rather capacious 3108 wH capacity--2950 wH of which is deliverable as A.C. output--yet is only 55 pounds and only 11" x 16" x 9". (It has NMC EV batteries, rather than the heavier but longer-cycle-lived LFP batteries...) I intend to keep it in our EV from time to time, as an electronic "spare can of gas". In the Leaf and in my Model Y, it would provide an extra 12 miles of range, a whopping 20% to 25% increase for you, based on either your current range or the calculated remaining capacity of your Leaf batteries. (Level 1 charging is admittedly not much faster than walking, but SO much easier!)
What I am most curious about is the cost of electricity: does the 9 cents per kWH include the delivery charge (which is a major share of the bill in my area), or is that an additional cost?
Dog mode is a great point! Yes, I believe the 9 cents / kWh includes the delivery charge.
More power and batteries that cost as much as 30 grand to replace it is a poor trade off from gas. Some charging stations across the nation run on Diesel generators, what's the savings? Solar power the way you have approached it yes, good job.
How much did you pay for the Leaf?
12:14 well i'm assuming you must've spent $10-15K atleast on the solar panels and installation; so it's not exactly _free_ right? i understand it's gonna be difficult to calculate the per kWh cost of the solar panels now though....
Well, depending on how long the setup lasts it could eventually pay for itself compared to grid power. Just a high initial investment as you're paying for that power up front instead of over time. While that's the only real way to lesson your dependence on fossil fuel as most of the grid is powered by fossil fuel.
However, the big problem is you typically actually spend more going EV... www.andersoneconomicgroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/EVtransition_FuelingCostStudy_10-21-21.pdf
Add lack of infrastructure support, even CA about 25% of the recharge stations don't work, and if we do force a switch from fossil fuel for power plants then we're going to become like CA with rolling blackouts because there's no way to provide the energy needs of everyone with only renewables. Especially, as they're also getting rid of nuclear power plants...
Haven't watched your videos much since you moved from Corvallis. Miss the SAAB, but I have extensive experience with Renogy (400W/AH Van conversion) and will check out those videos now. How quick the young ones grow!
Could you explain the dongle you used and where to get it
amzn.to/3EDBDCA here's the link. You need to use the leafspy app with it.
Do many local places such as restaurants, home good and grocery stores have charging stations?
Some do, but they're definitely not everywhere...
You need water drop solar camping trailer.
Mine is a 2013 and still has 77 miles of range. I have never quick charged and I have never turtled.
Wonder how long it takes to get you title? Hear crazy things about carvana and wonder what is true and what's the real deal?
Hej Darbin grattis till en Nissan El Här i Sverige så kostar bensinen just nu 22 kr litern så här kör man bara när vi skall handla mat. Tyvärr så är el bilarna så dyra att jag inte har råd att köpa någon. Annars så har vi sommar nu men det skulle behöva lite regn Ha det så bra
How many bars was on the battery when you purchased.
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Breat buy considering all the solar panels you have. One thing to consider is not over charging your batteries. I have read that you don't need to keep on toping them up unless you know your going to use up a lot of the range in one trip. Over frequently charging the batteries is likely to cause the pack to age prematurely. Better to run them down to say 30% before charging.
nice =)
Where did you get the “dongle” from?
I bought it from Amazon. I'll be going over it more in the next video.
@@darbinorvar thank you
Go get the battery checked out by Nissan before the warranty on the battery is kaput.
Our 2016 30 kWh battery degraded way too much and we lost 4 bars of health with only 18k miles. We got it replaced under warranty from Nissan.
I bet you know this, but you should not charge up to 100 % unless you are taking a road trip or something.
9 c/kWh wow, in Germany we pay 38.5 c/kWh
EV is great if you don't need range and honestly, most people don't need the range. The problem is, if there is that one time that you have to exceed it for some reason... problem.
It's not a problem if you have one gas car in the family. Plus it's not hard to find chargers anymore (besides rural areas), and many new EVs can charge really fast.
@@mattv5281 Agreed. And the range is growing more and more. I think some are up to 300 miles now. Of course that's 150 each way. But the problem with charging them is... how long do you have to wait if you're on a trip somewhere! Could get old quick.
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As a confirmed pedestrian, electric vehicles (and hybrids) should have an 'engine noise' chip and speaker fitted. Firstly, so pedestrians (and assorted wild life out of the cities) can hear you coming and not step in front of/get out of the way of the EV. Secondly, you could choose 'small 4 cylinder engine', 'Hot V8 engine' or 'Monster Truck Turbo Death Machine' noises for internal or external listening pleasure. :-)
I guess it is always a bit of a bummer when somebody wants to buy something online but first looks at a store to make sure it is right for them. I know maybe they didn't have one for them but maybe they could have got one for them. Did they ask?
i just bought one from a local Mitsubishi dealer. Carvana prices seemed high. $15,541 plus very good battery 32400 miles.
When you count devaluation, the last owner(s) spent about $0.40 per mile. If it continues to devalue to $6000 over the next 50k miles you'll spend about $0.22 per mile. I expect that my older gas car will last at least 50k more and will cost me about $0.25 per mile.
Yeah, the push for EV is based more on politics than technology and any real benefits with what's available now. EV vehicles still cost more to purchase and when everyone switches to one it's going to be terrible for the power grid and costs will skyrocket even more than the price of gas has to keep them charged... Never mind we're eventually going to run out of lithium, so existing battery technology may have to change drastically when that happens or all these vehicles become paper weights...
@@ZeoCyberG What are the alternatives my friend? Personally I completely agree with the lady! Time to change our ways for our children sake!
@@rogermartinez78 Plenty of alternatives, we already have the beginnings of the technology needed to extract carbon from the atmosphere and recycle it and organisms that can break down plastics, etc. If carbon was really a problem we can solve it, even if we ignore that all live on the planet depends on carbon but again, it's politics and not science that these decisions are being based upon. We are not helping our children by wasting resources and creating more problems than are being solved. It's like the old saying, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. All of this is causing far worse than it's trying to solve with releasing toxic byproducts into the environment, wasting of resources that can't be replaced, etc.
Change for change sake doesn't actually make sense when you're destroying the future doing it!
Nothing pays the stress you will have just to know if you can go and get back home. Those 70 miles range will transform in 50 or 60 in winter. 14 hours to full charge? Come on...
With all due respect, 70 miles on a charge may be fine for your intended use, but that's pretty short distance for many commuters or travelers seeing as the U.S. is definitely not yet set up on enough grid (plug-ins) to insure that you can get enough power to make it back home, (and then, how much time are you sitting waiting to re-charge?) This hysteria over pushing everyone to EV's has NOT been thought through by our current government to make it practical for a good majority of situations. Maybe someday, but it will be many years at the rate they're going before they can make this work!
I just google searched for charging stations between Cleveland and Columbus and there are 2 free quick charge stations halfway so no problem .
The average commuter for work in the US is apx 26 miles , as calculated like 20 years ago, before high speed internet really became very common in even rural areas,
the point is, the world is changing fast to make 70 miles for commuters , more than enough, the real problem is the government is giving people the tax incentives
needed for the home owners to consider EVs more, If people were given 2,000 in rebates or tax savings to upgrade there homes to get quick charge stations at there homes
essentially free, that would do the world more good than harm, but of course there are hundreds of thousands of people that no EV is realistic with the current limitation's,
apartment renters, many contractors who need a traditional pick up truck for there gear, etc...
Leaf is a worst choice of an EV
Wrong.I have one, not this one but a new one, and I get 200 mile range and pay $235 a month on a 24 month lease. It's a hatch back and can fit all kinds of crap in it. It's also got ProPilot Assist, adaptive cruise control and works great. So yeah, you're wrong. The value is amazing.
Incorrect
Even if that were true (and I have no idea) I think the question is, is it better than an ICE vehicle?
@@Wordsnwood what would make it better then a conventional vehicle?
@@dontfit6380 Technology isn't there yet, this is more about politics than the science. At minimum we need a better power grid because the present one won't support a complete conversion to EV's and it will be a lot worse than it is now if the power plants also switched to strictly renewables as capacity will drop like a rock then. It'll take everyone adding solar to their property to even be remotely reasonable.
While EV's also still cost more, to own, operate, repair, etc. Like with the current supply chain issues and car manufacturers not having enough chips... Imagine that for EV's that use over ten times more chips and how complicated and costly the repairs will be... Along with studies like this...
www.andersoneconomicgroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/EVtransition_FuelingCostStudy_10-21-21.pdf
Just because not everyone pays directly, doesn't mean there's no cost and won't eventually catch up with us like the national debt and inflation...