Messiaen is advanced stuff!!! I remember as a chorister many many years ago, singing “O sacrum convivium!” - still sends shivers up and down my spine when I hear it … 👍👍
Hello , thank you for this insight. I am interested in “lost” by Wayne shorter , trying to analyse it , I have some clues on the A but the B is tricky (realbook is incorrect indicating three chromatic major 7 chords Maybe the B (and the A) and the melody comes from that scale Thx
Thx , it is a very nice intriguing one ! I will check if mode 3 works somehow on it , a hint was given to me by Eran har even (deutch great young player) who plays it very nicely in trio on TH-cam ! I do not have a guitar with me these days but soon and will dig into it !
@@thepracticingguitarist Rodrigo de la Prida from Chile has a series of (insanely comprehensive) books on all his modes for guitar. Highly, highly recommended.
yes I noticed that slip of the tongue too lat. I'm hoping that people will realize the mistake when they look at the notation. I'll make a note about it in the description
Messiaen is advanced stuff!!! I remember as a chorister many many years ago, singing “O sacrum convivium!” - still sends shivers up and down my spine when I hear it … 👍👍
For what it’s worth, Brett Stine’s work documenting Holdsworth’s use of the modes is amazing in its extent and depth. Cheers brother, D 🤙🏻
Yes this would be something to look into
Augmented triads sound mysterious and intriguing. Many possibilities to run arpeggios, to check target notes and to play inside/outside
Sounds great! Wonderful!
Glad you like it
Hello , thank you for this insight. I am interested in “lost” by Wayne shorter , trying to analyse it , I have some clues on the A but the B is tricky (realbook is incorrect indicating three chromatic major 7 chords
Maybe the B (and the A) and the melody comes from that scale
Thx
@@astorina I have never played that tune. Will look into it 😎
Thx , it is a very nice intriguing one ! I will check if mode 3 works somehow on it , a hint was given to me by Eran har even (deutch great young player) who plays it very nicely in trio on TH-cam ! I do not have a guitar with me these days but soon and will dig into it !
Really interesting and provoking lesson, Mikko. Curious: do you know of any dedicated book(s) that delve into Messiaen's modes?
Yes his own book The Technique of My Musical Language but that's probably not for the faint of heart haha
Those are the best kinds of books!
@@thepracticingguitarist Rodrigo de la Prida from Chile has a series of (insanely comprehensive) books on all his modes for guitar. Highly, highly recommended.
Sorry but Ab is a Major 3rd above E, not a Minor third. Had me puzzled there for a bit!
yes I noticed that slip of the tongue too lat. I'm hoping that people will realize the mistake when they look at the notation. I'll make a note about it in the description
Yeah, he misspoke on that at 2:00. Great lesson nonetheless.
Did you see that guy on tiktok using messian modes over giant steps
I dont use Tiktok but I have seen people do that here on TH-cam ad I didnt think it sounded that great