Legions Imperialis Battle Report: Blood Angels Vs. Solar Auxilia. Let’s play Legions Imperialis!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 พ.ย. 2023
- Hi all.
We were fortunate to receive a review copy of Legions Imperialis, for review. We pitted the Blood Angels 5th Company against the 74th Securran Janissaries in our first TH-cam Battle Report of many.
It’s a great game!
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Hi all. We are aware have made a few errors within this Battle Report video (juggling filming and a new game system can mean this happens) and most have been noted below in the comments :) hope you enjoy the game.
I really like how you can play an epic battle like this using hundreds of units but without requiring a huge board to play on. Excellent battle report!
I love everything I have seen so far from this game, just watching this I already tought about how the dynamics would change if you can bring artillery, Drop Pods, air assault, transports etc.
Yep! Horus Heresy done right! BIG BIG BIG! Hope you enjoyed the game.
I still think 6mm is better to get really epic battles.
I am intensely jealous you got preview copies! But loving the report! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks mate. Really happy you enjoyed it!
@@BattleBunniesTV indeed! Very excited to get our hands on it and watching batreps helps keep that excitement going till release!
Cool bat rep, lovely looking armies. Key take away: MORE TERRAIN. Thanks for sharing with us.
Cheers mate. Yep we will be adding more terrain next time :) happy you enjoyed.
Excellent battle report, so looking forward to this game, I loved Epic Space Marine 2nd Ed back in the day and this draws so much from that (I think GW's best war game rules-wise). I felt the anguish of the Solar Auxilla's terrible rolls to hit in the early rounds. The armies look superb, but those SA tanks, seriously, are exceptional. More of this, as an Australian it will be a few extra weeks before I see the game in person so these reports are my vicarious replacement.
Thanks Cyber! Really appreciated. I will see if @eyecon74 can do a painting video for us :)
Thanks. I enjoyed watching this to chill after work. 😊
I have looked at that Legio Solaria Warhound Titan so many times as a reference for my own. Amazing job and I love to see it getting some table time!
@eyecon74 is really talented!
Very good report! Helped with many questions I had when reading the rulebook. 👍
So excited to play this! Great batrep as always guys.
Thanks Fish!! Your turn for a game soon!
Looks absolutley stunning! Well done!!
Thanks!
The pose on the warhound with the leg way up on the terrain is awesome!
@eyecon74 on Instagram. His work is amazing.
Based on what happens in the books just imagine what would actually happen if an Auxilia force tried to take on a legion force. It would be absolute slaughter.
Eh. The Auxiliar are pretty much the pinnacle of normal human combat effectiveness. If properly supported by logistics a great Cohort could maybe match a legion. They have much more manpower after all
Legion forces this size could be decimated especially with a titan
@@timostegemann9738 Titans arent exactly Solar Auxilia.
Everybody agree that 1v1 would be a slaughter, but 10v1, supported by Tanks and Artillery, and with Ogryn Charonites and Veletaris for melee support… that would be another story.
eh the Solar Auxilia is meant to be the early Tempustus Scions so they do stand a snowballs chance in hell of winning
Well done guys... Lovely models & great batrap :-)
Hey! Thanks mate! Really appreciated!
Great Battle Report! Lovely painted armies on display here, would love to know how the Auxilla were done!
I honestly feel like planes should work differently. Make them behave similar to flyers in old apocalipse, but with orders of their own (using the same tokensbut different meanngs)!!!
I could come up with the following:
Strafing run, Intercept, bombing run, land(for transports) and Jink/pull up(more of a reaction).
if legions imperialis was converted to a pc/console rts i would hand my money over immediately
More! 😃
We will be doing lots more videos next few weeks and months. :)
nice battle report, got the engagement dice wrong, its 2 die plus their modifier
Great video!
Thanke you for the video, i hope you will do more!
Thanks Mate. Looking to do lots more!! Especially with Legions Imperialis!
I will watch them. Get my copy of LI today 😊
Jink is an additional Save characteristic you can use it or your armor save, not both. You also cannot split fire with the dreadnaughts because neither of the weapons have Point-Defense.
Very cool to see that fight. Couldn’t the bane blade shave short the building with the assault troops first turn or are they not strong enough?
I also think the melee attacks should have been done a bit differently, but it was still great to see.
More please mate! favourite LI bat rep so far!
Thanks mate! that really means a lot! We will hopefully get another up in a week. EyeCon74 and I are on different work schedules it seems!
Excellent battle report. Beautiful scenery, and beautifully painted figures. Don't a lot of the vehicle weapons have firing arcs? I thought I saw a time or two when it might have come into play. I think not all of the forces were played to their strengths, but that will come with experience. A rules question though, as I don't have a rule book yet. Can tanks fire trough friendly infantry at targets in range?
Your models look incredible, especially the Blood Angels. Will you be doing a painting guide for them?
Hiya! We will be putting a guide up very soon! :)
Great paint jobs and terrain gents!
So excited about alternating activations
Yup. Personally think all 40K games should go this way!!
Hot dice vs dud dice. Thank you for the rep, I really look forward to getting back into epic!
Thanks Chris. Good luck with your Legions!
Sorry, it looks like the 1080P 60FPS is still buffering . . . . You may have to deal with standard until it sorts itself out.
Did you forget to make a Morale Check when the charging squad was overwatched at around 38:00 or have I missed something? Also I think all weapons are fired at the same time and the opponent chooses the save order so when the Warhound was being fired upon by the Reaver with its one void left it could have chosen Volcano Cannon, Laser, Apocs to try and tank the higher strength weapons.
Awesome batrep though guys, really enjoyed that! Subbed 😊 hope you do some more!
Did you forget to use the blood angels special legion combat bonus? Great bat rep. I look forward to more of them!
Hiya. Yeah we dropped it. Wanted to use Vanilla ones for this game. Looking forward to using it next time.
I really can’t wait for the next Bat Rep. I really enjoyed watching this one!
Damn we’re all ready getting video.
Very nice! More please.
Hopefully another Battle Report next week! :)
I really like the red for your Blood Angels: nice and punchy! You should do a 'how to paint it' (unless you have and I'm just too dumb to have spotted it). Cheers for the report anyway: as a sadly-oldie who was getting on a bit when even Space Marine came out, seeing the upscale and new rules is very interesting.
Thanks Hunch.
I have started filming it already. Will be up this / next week. :)
Splendid! Although I do hope there'll be more arguing in that video than this. You're both too nice. Surely the point of gaming with mates is to rub their noses in it 😄
great looking game, lovely armies.
Thanks Stig! We will hopefully improve our gaming quality too after a few more games :)
@@BattleBunniesTV yours is probably the best I've seen on the system so far. Can't wait to get my stuff!
Thank you for sharing it.
Thanks for watching. Hope you enjoy our next.
Awesome video, subbed
Hiya Neil! Thanks for that. Means a lot. We do play a lot of games in various systems, so hope you do enjoy!
I've never played Epic but this looks like a lot of fun... it dropped me two times out the queue yesterday and I wasn't able to pick up the Arvus Lighters. I feel like they could be quite useful for movement of the Solar Auxilia. Still looking forward to receive my box.
Good to hear it! It is great fun! Good luck
great report! Maybe next time show some backed out shots here and there to show the true epicness of the full battle!
Thanks for the feedback mate! Will do :)
This was awesome.
Awh thanks Ghost. Really appreciate the feedback. We are looking at ramping up our TH-cam content now. We love to game but always have so much to paint!
What blue did he use for those solar auxilia? they look great, I havent been able to get mine quite like that.
This is great! I am still holding out hope we get 40K in this scale!
Hi there, thx a lot for the content. I really like your channel and these kinds of "Let's Play" videos. I also like your Tabletop Terrain Table, would you mind to show it in more detail maybe in a seperate video ? As far a i can see it consits out of four plates. I like the Design and the fact that theres not too much build-in Obstacles, as this would limit the possibilities. BR Christoph
Hiya! Hopefully tonight a painting video of the new road tiles will go up :) but yes we will pan over it next time for you :)
Whats the board size for your average battle?
It seems that you did the fight rules wrong. You only rolled a single d6 for each fight instead of 2d6 for the assault marines and 3d6 for the ogryns.
Yep. Sorry we were rushing. We dropped a D6 in error. Brain switched off!
Have you got the actual army lists and formations?
Baneblades “ quite hefty when it comes to size” picks one up and they are thumb size 🤣😂
The paint job on all of it is mental, you’ve both got so much detail picked out and they look superb, love it.
Sorry if this has already been covered but your table, is that part of old titanicus one ?
It’s the old Realm of Battle board for 40k & WFB
Awh thanks Helghast. We put a lot of effort in and it is really difficult to see on the camera! will be some more pics on the Website soon :)
Any chance of some more info on your painting for these minis?
Hiya. I will put a Blood Angel painting video up shortly. Will see if I can get a SA Painting guide too.
I like the BatRep, but i have a question, are both armys the same points? Space marines seem to have more troops and more firepower. Or how is it balanced?
Space Marines 1488 v Solar Auxilia 1494.
Could you tell me how you painted the Blood Angels? They look fantastic
Hiya Black Adder. I will try and get a video and guide up soon! :)
28:46 A bit of narrative would have been nice. Perhaps the warhound missed those laser blaster rolls, because those stinking Lightnings are busy dog fighting in the way with that Xyphon.
Can't you only have up to 4 bases per tactical detachment in addition to the required 4?
How does it play compared to the last few editions of the game?
Think you got Jink wrong chaps. Rulebook states a model can have various amounts of Save Characteristics but only ever use ONE (Normally the best!). So Jink isn't a save THEN an armour save on top. You just use the best available.
Yup. You are correct. Was rushing got a bit forgetful whilst trying to film too. Will get it right next time. 😅
Interested to know whether you felt that was the right amount of terrain. It looks like it was hard to get out of LOS a lot of the time
Hiya. Yeah it was a desert battlefield amount. Street Warfare on the new plastic boards will be great with more buildings.
@@BattleBunniesTV thanks for the response! Does the book include advice on setting up the battlefield?
One questions: Aren't close assaults fought by rolling 2d6 (3 for rending)?
Yeah I think they just made a mistake as it’s a new game
Yup. We dropped the ball (or dice in this instance). Brain went a bit to mush, as was trying to rush and record at the same time. Other than that, hope you enjoyed it.
I wonder how a game of just flyers would play.
If only someone had invented mechanised infantry in 2nd World War.
I think Hand to Hand starts at 2d6 + CAF but I am by no means certain. I see below I was correct and you have realised this error as well.
Other than that I hope you enjoyed it Dan :)
I thought you got Jink or armour, not both... great rep!
Thanks Matt. Yep you are correct. It was a small oversight.
We will be putting a lot more Legions Imperialis content up soon :)
Are those mini dice😆 to make things look bigger
Lol. No! Standard 10mm ones I think. Getting sub conscious about the size of my hands though now lol!
The big dice would crush models!
Are they snap kits or do we need to glue them like the older kits?
Which bits? Tanks are multipart. Legionnes are single glue to base (apart from Missile Launchers).
@BattleBunniesTV thanks. For the tanks is it snap kit?
1. This game looks very sleek and fun to me.
2. Did the blood angels legion trait never come into play?
Hiya. Yes it is very sleek and fun. Feels a bit chess like in some ways too.
We dropped the BA Legion trait but it will be seen on the next report early next week.
Hope you enjoyed the video.
How many Civitas kits is the terrain made from?
Hiya
I think around 3-4.
@@BattleBunniesTV Thanks! Looks great, just wish GW gave a bigger discount on it in the bundle lol
Balancing seems a bit odd those lightning planes had 6 shots each while the other planes have 1 wound each 😆
Looks fun though
Are they going to be adding the other races? I think it would be cool to get back into wh 40k with something like this. Loved reading dwarf magazines and the apocalypse size fights but could never afford it. If other races come out im definitely jumping in.
This was released under Horus Heresy, so no :/ Seems like a missed opportunity for GW.
@@chaoticflanagani think it's probably a decision around balance
Hiya. I am sure at some point they would have room to expand the game to other races. Battles were bigger in the Horus Heresy too. On the board there were around 165 Space Marines (over a Company). So it could be done. I can imagine it happening eventually (probably set in the Great Crusade first to make the use of the Age of Darkness armies) before porting to the 40k Timeline with Primaris. They have most fliers for Xenos done already too which is great.
Hh fits the scale perfectly for this.
@BattleBunniesTV yeah I was doing some more digging and found they have no plans to add any xenos to legions imperialis. And all the xenos from aeronautica are being removed as anything from aeronautica and titanicus will be usable for LI. But who knows hopefully they change their minds because I think a lot of people want epic to come back.
I thought Combat was done with 2d6 + CAF?
D6 seems to really limit both weapon and armour variability
More!
I WANT TO DO MORE!! :D Need more enemies and units! Hopefully more in the next week or so mate :)
Wow this looks very fast.
Oh yes. It will be brilliant and fast. 3k would be great.
what did solar auxilia wrong in this match?
Iv seen other battle reports roll 2 dice when doing combats then add CAF?
Yup. We dropped the ball (or dice in this instance). Brain went a bit to mush, as was trying to rush and record at the same time. Other than that, hope you enjoyed it.
@@BattleBunniesTV yea was great, please do more!
Will do!
I'm really loving the look of this iteration of Epic. But I still have an empty feeling from it only being Horus Heresy based. I feel that if GW don't get the "band back together" and bring out all the races out in the new epic scale, they'll have really soiled themselves on this.
I think they are testing the water if people are interested in this system. Horus heresy has the benefit that you only have 3 major factions (model wise [space marine, imperial army, mechanicum]) but like 30 factions lore wise(legions, legios and human armys).
Also a full 40k release with like 14 races all having somewhere around 15 different models (they need a somewhat full range with infantry (normal,assault heavy), artillery, tanks(light,medium,heavy),fast attack, dreadknoughts, knights, flyers, titans would be too costly. That would dwarf a new edition for mainline 40k in complexity. The designing and distribution would be a heavy investment and when people simply not buy it it would be a too big risk for gamesworkshop.
My guess is we get 3 years of legions imperialis and later an extension for 40k probably starting with orks and eldar since both of them could appear during the heresy. And later tyranids and primaris since they are the posterboys for current warhammer.
It always makes me laugh how the camera makes these figures look bigger than what they are for such small models. The detail is excellent.
Yeah I get you there! :) hope you enjoyed the report mate. More Legions Imperialis videos soon.
35K views already lads!! 🤙🤙🤙😎😎😎
Is legion imperialis easer or harder to learn than Aos
Hiya. I am not too sure really. LI is a fast and simple ruleset though in my opinion.
@@BattleBunniesTVthanks im trying to pesade my brother
How many points?
Space Marines 1488 v Solar Auxilia 1494
Why is everything a glass cannon with nearly zero survivability?
Because in a normal game you'll probably be running 3 or 4 times as much stuff as this. Stuff HAS to die fairly quick otherwise it would become a boring slogfest. They did quite a lot of rules wrong too but it's their first time. Dreadnoughts are for example, fairly tough against Light and Light AT and have invunerable saves.
At 22:22 a Malcador is removed without a saving throw. Don't the rules say that a dice roll of 6 is always a success even if the number required is 7+ ...?
Hiya. On Page 57 it says: “as stated previously, when making a saving role, a natural 1 is not an automatic failure, and a natural 6 is not an automatic success - a model can have a 1+ armour save characteristic after modifiers (in which case it will automatically pass its save role) or be unable to pass a saving role on a single D6 due to the AP of the firing weapon (in which case it will automatically fail, it’s save roll).
Hope you enjoyed the game otherwise. There were a few errors and we have bought Microphones now so speech is clearer! :)
@BattleBunniesTV Ah. Fair enough. I was referencing the rule from page 34.
Fire seems quite laborious. The air to air combat took forever with so many weapon systems all firing separately.
What? It's like a couple dice rolls. Bloody hell.
Hi Anchises. I thought it was quite fast. Especially when you come to 40K. We will try to do it faster next time though :)
@@FarseerB1rdy Playing with 3000 point and rolling multiple weapons systems for every miniature is going to make for some long, boring fire phases.
@@Anchises Disagree. Most weapons have 1-2 dice. Most units have 1 oe 2 weapons.
@@Anchises Disagree, between how fast units die and the amount of dice rolled, it's pretty low time wise. Bare in mind most detachments don't allow split fire unless it's Point Defence weapons (off the top of my head) so you won't taking time deliberating how to best split fire. AND you alternate firing - you're not literally watching your opponent fire everything he/she has. It's one Detachment, then you fire a detachment etc. You'll always be in the game.
Example - 4 Kratos Tanks - a tank with a silly amount of guns.
4 x Battlecannons at 20" = 8 Dice (4 Dice at 10" or less)
4 x Kratos Lascannons = 8 Dice
4 x Kratos Sponson Lascannons = 4 Dice
Harsh to reroll your Missus. You've only just married her 😢
Lol. I have better luck since I married Lauren! 🤣
Congratulations, not on the Salmonella...
🤣 Thanks mate! really appreciated LOL :)
Every time those dice roll on those plastic tiles, I cringe. Ouch. Not just because of the sound, it also the paintwork being ruined.
Jink and a +3 seems kinda broken.
Well the solar auxilia really lack skyfire right now, Itll be less powerful as more models release. I think in these early stages flyers will really dominate.
They got Jink completely wrong. Jink grants another Save Characteristic but you can only ever take ONE type of Save as per the rules. So either the 5+ Jink or it's Armour Save
Hiya. Jink we dropped the ball on. Was meant to be one save or the other. Not both. Will get it right next time.
@@BattleBunniesTV I've got a day off work and being incredibly excited about LI, I just couldn't help go over what rules I could find. Sorry for being "that comment" 🤣🤣🤣
No need to apologise mate! Appreciated.
Not nearly enough terrain on the table you have no obstacles or obstructions. Infantry need terrain or they are pure fodder.
Ill stick with Alpha Strike, game still looks excruciatingly slow
But when xenos?
Maybe one day!? They could do a Great Crusade Spin off at first. That would be good :)
I feel the Reaver just kinda won this game. The actual Astartes don't seem particularly impactful or survivable (the distinction between them and the solar Aux isn't pronounced enough imo). I was hoping for a game more like Epic Armageddon.
Round bases wtf gw
Looks better imo
Hiya.
Yeah they went round. I kinda prefer it now :)
Oh good. Another GW war game based on d6s. I’ll put this on my “to don’t” list.
🤡
I'll stick to 2D6, but feel free to use a D12, if you like...?