You are half right and wrong. Monty was a monster no doubt about that. his childhood made him like that. To the fear of coming out gay, to his shit of a home. I don’t feel sympathy but see stress.
I give the writers credit with this character. After what he did to Tyler, I HATED him. I couldn't get that scene out of my mind for days. IT WAS TRAUMATIC. BUT, then Winston came onto the scene and changed everything! BY THE TIME IT ENDED, I was rooting for them!
What I really hate about 13rw is that they had so much potential with Monty. He was genuinely interesting at first but they kept shoving his bad homelife in our faces. Show don’t tell at its finest. Also his dad being awful doesn’t make his actions inherently more grey, rape cannot be justified. They refused to learn this lesson with Bryce and so they did with Monty.
Yet still, dealing with personal struggles of owns identity and having a abusive parent is not an excuse to act like a complete asshole towards others. I could care less about Monty and his bad upbringing but I still hated him for what he did to Tyler.
@@isaiahsturgis5037 yeah that was what I was trying to say, sorry if I worded it weirdly. But I do believe he had some interesting parts to his character. Instead, they decided to go with the route that every frustrated, horribly bigoted man is secretly in the closet, which is not only overplayed but offensive too
You know, for Monty to be homophobic, he projects a lot of his sexuality on to people. Like anytime he has something to say to someone, it’s always so homosexual situation. It’s giving Hidden Fantasies.
😮😮😮😮You know an actor is great when they make you literally hate the character that they play because their portryal imitates what people are like in real life. Meanwhile I've been seeing timothy in interviews and he seems like the most gentle and kind soul. I had a hard time stomching the idea of the kind of person monty was...especially after the bathroom scene with tyler. That act of violence against another person was the lowest of lows. What blew my mind was the secret that he kept about being gay himself. I didnt expect that at all 😮😮😮😮
Same. But at least Bryce admitted that what he did was wrong and wanted to change. Meanwhile, this bish does absolutely fucked up stuff, never apologizes, doesn't even think about what he did and excepts a person he horribly traumatized to just "get over it"
Monty is complex 😩 like morally you have to hate him because he’s a horrible person, but near the end of his story you can’t help but to feel some degree of sympathy towards him.
I dont feel sympathy im sorry. especially for what he did to Tyler, what I do feel though is his character had potential to go another route to begin with, maybe winston took him on a different path and he never raped Tyler but the writers were doing the most
Obviously, I don't condone what Monty did. However,I think if he grew up in a different environment, things might've turned out differently. Especially with him, Tyler, & Winston.
@blackrose8418 no, he got shanked after Tyler finally told what Monty did to him. The prisoners in jail misunderstood what happened and thought he was a pedophile.
@@gimmekromer1151 uau, ele cometeu um erro, não podemos julgar o livro pela capa, vcs esquecem da família homofóbica que ele tinha e um pai homofóbico desses, então é difícil se comportar de outro jeito E por isso eu digo que todos merecem uma segunda chance, até mesmo aqueles que cometeram estrupo por pressão do pai , Monty merecia uma segunda chance não importa as coisas horríveis que fez
@@danrleylechineski5474 não mesmo aqui se faz aqui se paga,deveria ter pensando bem antes e ter tido o mínimo de empatia né? Agora se ferrou e quem defende abusador não tem moral.
Obviously, I don't condone what Monty did. However,I think if he grew up in a different environment, things might've turned out differently. Especially with him, Tyler, & Winston.
People hating Monty means he delivered his character perfectly! ❤
Agreed
Facts
Exactly
I hate Monty.
That's what I was thinking
He calls everyone else gay, but really he was the gay one all along 😂
Exactly 😂😂
That is sometimes how it works. Homophobic ones sometimes are gay but dont want people to know so act homophobic
his dad abused him for being gay thats why
This is always the case.
In Psychology its called Projection
The dudes who played Monty and Bryce deserve an Emmy
And the characters they play deserve to rot in hell.
@@trevturp6891Why in Hell? Better in Gehenna
@@Woland3924 Because they did a lot of terrible and unforgivable things.
@@Woland3924 The answer to that question is obvious.
@@trevturp6891they’re acting a part r u dumb?😭
Monty was a real Closet Queen
I really hate Monty. He’s an animal. He was a monster. He doesn’t deserve sympathy for what he did to Tyler.
True . .nooooo sympathy
Exactly I'm on the ep after the lockdown and I really wished Alex shot him.
You are half right and wrong. Monty was a monster no doubt about that. his childhood made him like that. To the fear of coming out gay, to his shit of a home. I don’t feel sympathy but see stress.
I mean guys the actor is great if he made you hate him
still 🔥
People who talk this way constantly really hate themselves
That what I was thinking
I give the writers credit with this character.
After what he did to Tyler, I HATED him. I couldn't get that scene out of my mind for days. IT WAS TRAUMATIC.
BUT, then Winston came onto the scene and changed everything!
BY THE TIME IT ENDED, I was rooting for them!
THIS! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS!! now it's easier to edit him
His character development would of made so much more sense than Bryce’s (never forgetting the Tyler scene).
What I really hate about 13rw is that they had so much potential with Monty. He was genuinely interesting at first but they kept shoving his bad homelife in our faces. Show don’t tell at its finest. Also his dad being awful doesn’t make his actions inherently more grey, rape cannot be justified. They refused to learn this lesson with Bryce and so they did with Monty.
What do you mean they kept shoving his bad homelife in our faces?
What do you mean inherently more grey?
@@trevturp6891 I mean more nuanced
Yet still, dealing with personal struggles of owns identity and having a abusive parent is not an excuse to act like a complete asshole towards others. I could care less about Monty and his bad upbringing but I still hated him for what he did to Tyler.
@@isaiahsturgis5037 yeah that was what I was trying to say, sorry if I worded it weirdly. But I do believe he had some interesting parts to his character. Instead, they decided to go with the route that every frustrated, horribly bigoted man is secretly in the closet, which is not only overplayed but offensive too
Am so glad what got to Monty he thought was invincible but at the end wasn't
Clearly I quit Netflix too early‼️ This looks great!
You know, for Monty to be homophobic, he projects a lot of his sexuality on to people. Like anytime he has something to say to someone, it’s always so homosexual situation. It’s giving Hidden Fantasies.
Yeahh Monty was an awful person, but he was a great source of comic relief at times
I hated Monty. He was evil. Not a good bone is his body.
monsters are created not born
He put a good bone in Winston though.
@@Digimonisbetterthanpokemon That, he did!
That sounds personal 😂
@@elijahcoffey1299 it’s true! Lol
This series was so good, sad it had to end 😭
Alex going with monty alone was so fucking stupid.
True yo
@@misspetite27 this mf really thought he could shoot him. He can't even shoot himself properly
rewatching and just saw that scene i said the same thing
surprised he didnt beat alex
😮😮😮😮You know an actor is great when they make you literally hate the character that they play because their portryal imitates what people are like in real life. Meanwhile I've been seeing timothy in interviews and he seems like the most gentle and kind soul.
I had a hard time stomching the idea of the kind of person monty was...especially after the bathroom scene with tyler. That act of violence against another person was the lowest of lows. What blew my mind was the secret that he kept about being gay himself. I didnt expect that at all
😮😮😮😮
I’m glad the mop scene was left out…
I hate Monty as much as I hate Bryce.
Same. But at least Bryce admitted that what he did was wrong and wanted to change. Meanwhile, this bish does absolutely fucked up stuff, never apologizes, doesn't even think about what he did and excepts a person he horribly traumatized to just "get over it"
@@ekaterinaobraztsova4631 Not to mention he told Bryce, "I'll take the fall if I have to" and then threw him under the bus
Alex’s dad is pissed
Monty had it coming and going to jail for all the bad things he’s done!
1:16 what Episode is this?
Have a great time in prison Monty I think you’re going to be very popular in there
Well they killed him there and now they’re probably having even more fun with his dead body
What is the name of this?
Darude - Sandstorm
12:09 IS THAT LUCIFER FROM SUPERNATURAL??????
Lmao yes same actor
12:38
😂😂 alex casually pulling guns on his classmates
What show is this please
13 reasons why on Netflix!
Monsters Are Created Not Born Dont Hate On Monty His Childhood Made Him Like This Im Not Forgiving Him For Tyler But Yeah....
Agree 👍
Fr I mean look at Bryce it’s mostly because of their Dads and how much they influence them to be who they are
Psychopaths are born the way they are so
@@alceusrydan6237 no
How tf does that excuse being a rapist
2:31
monty is a horrible person and I don’t understand how anyone can sympathize with him.
What he did to Tyler removed any sort of sympathy towards him
What show was this?
13 reasons why
I think he's the worst in 13 Reasons Why 😫
The writers saw us thinking nobody could be more despicable and vile than Bryce and they said, “okay bet”. Along came Monty
Monty is complex 😩 like morally you have to hate him because he’s a horrible person, but near the end of his story you can’t help but to feel some degree of sympathy towards him.
Fr, I feel bad for liking him to some extent. What he did to Tyler was fucking terrible, but still, I feel for the guy.
Same. I liked his character even after he ruined people’s lives. He truly hated himself
I dont feel sympathy im sorry. especially for what he did to Tyler, what I do feel though is his character had potential to go another route to begin with, maybe winston took him on a different path and he never raped Tyler but the writers were doing the most
11:29 why do i feel like this an Angry Birds Space Eggsteroid theme?
4:38 Was My Fav Part😂😂
The actor is 30 yo when he play as monty right?? He got a role as a hs student
*Montgomery "Monty" Burns"
Obviously, I don't condone what Monty did. However,I think if he grew up in a different environment, things might've turned out differently. Especially with him, Tyler, & Winston.
🥰😍😊😍🔥❤️
Having sympathy for Monty because he was lowkey gay is weak.
Alex,Justin and Monty are gays they run out of ideas in season 4
Why did he have a good ending and Justin didn’t
Monty got shanked in Prison after being falsely accused of killing Bryce. Where's the good ending?
@@blackrose8418 😭
@@blackrose8418Bro 😂😂
@blackrose8418 no, he got shanked after Tyler finally told what Monty did to him. The prisoners in jail misunderstood what happened and thought he was a pedophile.
Okey but the guy being obsessed with him made 0 sense
GREAT SHOW,,WILL MISS THE TRUTH..SINCERELY, ROY LEONARDO DUKE YORK 2ND..🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈
Guys it’s just a show why yall so personal, I liked monty character, he was funny, he a good guy.
Oh…so you are a closet case too? That explains it
What? He is a rapist.
@@elijahcoffey1299 do you genuinely not understand or are just dense
Lol...yeah. He is a good guy just like you're a moron
Homophobia is NOT ACCEPTABLE!!!!!!!!
poorly written character...
Not really
Monty é muito gostoso
Pena que teve um fim trágico
Pena? Ele mereceu
@@kassiogomes8498 discordo totalmente
Todos merecem uma segunda chance e Monty merece com mais depois das coisas horríveis que fez
defendendo um estuprador uau...
@@gimmekromer1151 uau, ele cometeu um erro, não podemos julgar o livro pela capa, vcs esquecem da família homofóbica que ele tinha e um pai homofóbico desses, então é difícil se comportar de outro jeito
E por isso eu digo que todos merecem uma segunda chance, até mesmo aqueles que cometeram estrupo por pressão do pai , Monty merecia uma segunda chance não importa as coisas horríveis que fez
@@danrleylechineski5474 não mesmo aqui se faz aqui se paga,deveria ter pensando bem antes e ter tido o mínimo de empatia né? Agora se ferrou e quem defende abusador não tem moral.
I love brice❤
wtf…
Tf man
dude 😂
1 Bryce* 2 he's a rapist
strong chad, people dont understand him
Inmates probably having a feast with his corpse in jail, very happy ending
He got it coming, he's absolutely horrible
No just no
God I hated him…..
Obviously, I don't condone what Monty did. However,I think if he grew up in a different environment, things might've turned out differently. Especially with him, Tyler, & Winston.