BREAKING ATF NEWS! Gun Owners of America Uncovers Fatal Flaw In Pistol Brace Rule...IT'S A TRAP!!!
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WE* hate the gheyTF
It’s a Catch 22!
Thanks for representing so many of us J!!
We appreciate it so very much! Thanks brother!!
Domari Nolo
PA III
What about using a rifle smooth tube that goes inside a stock with no notches
@@dcmoore8937 More like legitimate illegal fraud, a crime
Fatal flaw: it's unconstitutional
And yet they don't care...
Also can't ban pistols or any other commen use firearms this will be thrown out in court.
I bet if the Supreme Court knocks it down they will still proceed
All bans are unconstitutional
The fact that pistol braces are a thing is unconventional
The ATF didn't say you would be a felon after 120 days. They said you are a felon NOW, and they want you to send them a picture of your felony, along with your fingerprints, name, and address. THINK ABOUT IT!
Not me
This is why I won't agree to this. I will NOT agree that I am a criminal because they are changing the rules in violation of the constitution. Their laws are by nature of the highest law, illegal.
I will not agree with them and hope they won't bother me if I agree nice and sheepily
The ATF version of cops standing on the side of the highways just waving people over for tickets.
Dont do their work for them.
Haynes vs US (SCOTUS 1968): a person that can't pass a background check cannot be required to register, nor can they be punished for failing to register. It's a FIFTH amendment thing: you cannot be compelled to testify against yourself or punished for not doing so. They can still get you for having the thing, but they gotta find out about it in the same way they would have if registration didn't exist.
I won't be sending anything, but I kind of wish they would play the game of 'fuck around and find out'.
It's beyond time to disband the ATF.
Time to use the red flag laws against individual members of the ATF
God bless the poor soul that gets arrested and takes this all to court for the rest of us.
God bless the souls that do what our founding fathers would do!
@@freedomfighter1861 there's no GREATER GOD THAN THE ALMIGHTY FEDERAL RESERVE GODS WHO CAN CREATE ENDLESS AMOUNTS OF 💵💵 out of NOTHING.. 💯💯😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yes.. let's keep playing the stupid game of voting for your masters then HOPE to win in court.. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
so many will make 'deals' before anything good happens.
Look
Basically I'm just not gonna comply. I know....UGH I know.....
I'm sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's just that I'm not complying is all
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I knew this. Don’t do this guys don’t comply and never follow an unconstitutional law
Drizo!! 👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅
Hashtag the founding fathers would of been shooting back years ago. Pigs and military scum REFUSE to fight for our rights
It's not really a law. They are just making up rules that are not constitutionally legal.
The executive branch does not write or change laws. They do not have that authority.
God forbid, but say that a self defense scenario comes about and you have to use your unregistered SBR or SBS, then are you willing to spend time in prison just because you failed to register a weapon that you don't HAVE to give back if the alphabet boys come looking for it?
"When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty."
Amen..!!
The Black Panthers and Brown Berets were right
A wise quote to be sure, but what does it have to do with this situation? I hope people here aren't implying banning a workaround to an uncessesary but ultimately minor law passed by congress is tyranny. If thats where the tyranny bar is why did every1 not rebel decades ago when the SBR law was passed?
@mlgtactics I see your point, but that’s really like saying I’m too old to start saving money for my retirement so I’m not gonna do anything…
Amen but we aren’t.
Do NOT comply. No submission, no names, no list.
Tax stamp ! Atf said they will waive that ! Atf does not have authority to authorize waivers of a tax ! Fact !
I’m surprised they haven’t brought up the fact that the ATF lacks the authority to waive the tax stamp fee in the first place. This rule in its current form is null and void.
They lack the authority to do any of it. Every single aspect of this rule is illegal. Some in multiple different ways. It’s absolute insanity.
That’s not going to stop them from kicking in doors after all the fudds comply
It’s a “forbearance”. You technically owe it, but they are opting to not collect it. This is because they can’t “waive” it, as you pointed out. At least that is how it was explained to me.
@@87balexander "There shall be levied, collected, and paid upon the making of a firearm a tax at the rate of $200 for each firearm made."
Read through the tax code, there's no leeway in there.
@@atox4957 then let the fudd die/be imprisoned. Cowards and traitors don't deserve freedom
"The atf doesn't even know their own rule" I assure you they know it and planned it
You mean Brandon's office planned it.
They really don't. Which is why their rules all end up so contradictory to previous rules.
They somehow forgot that they signed off on millions of Federal Excise Tax payments for pistols, and are now fraudulently trying to use ex post facto (illegal) to reclassify those FETs from manufacturers.
Then they violated FOPA with this silly abortion, which is thumbing their noses at Congress, but they weren't done yet.
They figured they could just pretend that SCOTUS didn't recently determine the Bruen vs EPA case, which guts their ability to change rules on matters of this magnitude.
They also concocted this low IQ monstrosity as if the 2nd, 4th, 9th, and 10th Amendments don't exist as well, then threatened NFA penalties on non-NFA items.
That's another tax code violation on top of FET, because they accepted pistol FETs for 11 years and are now arbitrarily trying to ex post facto millions of FETs into NFA tax code.
They're literally in violation of CFR 26 for Manufacturer's excise taxes, and in violation of the NFA taxation provisions by arbitrarily declaring millions of articles that they accepted FETs on as NFA items, after these items have been transferred legally under CFR 26 for 11 years.
What kind of effing retards concocted this 293 page ruling? Whoever they are, anyone trying to implement this is in violation of the above laundry list of USC, CFR, Bill of Rights, FOPA, and SCOTUS actual laws, not made-up ATF, "see what we can get away with" rulings.
Hanlon's razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
@@L-H-B You beat me to it!
I spent a year in Federal Prison because I told an ATF Agent he was a murderer.
Almost 300 pages of intentionally vague, ambiguous and "looped" rules and definitions. This is a big 2A infringement. Thanks Jared great information. 🤝🇺🇸
300 pages to wipe our asses with
Not nearly as complicated as the imagery gunshow "loophole's".
A long time ago, the Supreme Court ruled that the "Marijuana Tax Act" was unconstitutional because (the Court said) that the government cannot pass a law that is impossible for citizens to follow.
He still want's You to "Vote" to make it better next selection...Listen & learn.
Why would you trust an agency who clearly is working for the MOST anti gun administration in American history?
Meet force with force . These people need to be STOPPED
If you sue the ATF all the time, why aren't you suing over the unconstitutionality of the entire NFA? It's no different than a poll tax for owning firearms of certain types. Closing the registry for transferrable machineguns in '86 meant that I was prohibited from making my own by the fact that I was 11 years old at the time. My rights were stolen from me before I could ever exercise them.
REMOVE any offending part and get it out of your control.
GOA and every other group need to get this to the Supreme Court asap... it's unconstitutional in so many ways and it can't stand!!!
SCOTUS refused to stop New York's new gun laws that are more restrictive than the ones they ruled unconstitutional!
@@halreinholtz3192 what they did was give the lower courts professional courtesy to make the correct decision. If they don't then they will correct it... Both Justice Thomas and Alito came out and said don't give up the fight bc NY is wrong. Why they gave them more time to dick around is beyond me but it will be fixed.
The cool part now is although that witch Justice Sotomayor is in charge of emergency cases now that they went that route already next time we can hand pick any Justice we want to bring it to... So pretty positive Justice Thomas will have this on his desk in the near future and I hope he crucifies those idiots Kathy Whorcal and James.
The Four Box Diner just posted a video that put's wholes in this new brace law! th-cam.com/video/7fCs5bD2VjA/w-d-xo.html
@@DubbyAdub You know they are ALL PLAYING THEIR PARTS...that's all !
Should have got that ATF lady on camera admitting this trap. These tyrants need to be run out of this country now!
ATF aka Alcohol, tobacco and firearms are ALL LEGAL things. Why do we need ATF ? and as I am not advocating violence, It is no different than the Thugs we knew as the NAZIs Our Dads and Grandfathers Killed..
Someone doesn't understand ... wiretapping .
Depends on the state, if it’s a one party state than it’s all good!
Who gave the tyrants power?? Are they the law abiding 🐑🐑 that voted for their masters?? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Absolutely.....
So...criminal if I do criminal if I don't...
That was a blatantly obvious honey trap from the start. The "waived tax stamp" was an obvious bait.
I know, the thing stunk to high heaven. And of COURSE they did it on purpose. Why are Jared and that lawyer being so charitable toward the ATF thinking it was an accident?
Yeah the wording of it doesn't even actually say the fee is waived, they can ask for the money later.
@@hornmonk3zit oh, they will ask for the money later, and I'd hate to see that amount in back charges besides the supposedly 200 dollar tax stamp.
@@nerdyengineer7943 Proving it was done intentionally is difficult. If the ATF says it was an accident then that gives the GOA more ammunition in their court case.
There's no waived tax stamp. It's a tax foreboreance. They just say the tax is not due at the time of registration. Trust me, they're going to come after that 200$
Oh they thought this through, They know exactly what they are doing!
Entrapment has always been the modus operandi of federal law enforcement. Fake a case to make a case.
Correct. just like OR prop 114. Passed a law that is impossible to comply with. They knew full well .
Wait 60 days and give time for a judge to issue an INJUNCTION... AND...go look what it says about FOREIGN BUILT Pistols....
CALL your Republican congressman and tell them to defund the FBI.
They emptied the jails of criminals so they can fill them with you
I’m just gonna say I’m a woman if I’m going to jail might as well enjoy my time in there
sue, sue , sue, get rid of the whole short barrel rifle thing. get rid of the NFA
How can the ATF just unilaterally restrict gun rights?? Against the will of the American people!
What if the ATF decides to not just ban pistol braces but also pistols???
If they can ban any weapon, they can ban all weapons.
We can’t allow this to stand. Any gun restrictions need to come from congress.
This is not a law, this is a ruling!!
They are citing the 1934 SBR law
First of all, it shouldn't be 88 Days. It shouldn't even be 88 micro seconds! But.. when that deadline does hit without a decision, it should be an AUTOMATIC APPROVAL!
We, the people, are innocent until PROVEN guilty and the onus is on the Government to prove we can not have ANY weapon!
It should be an automatic approval after 88 days. If they cant do a background check and find something wrong in 88 days they got issues!
@@dugangant 72 hours. A class III is no more dangerous than a Class 1.
They are only useful for DEFENSE. They make attackers change their mind and move on.
Why would you give the government ANY information on what you have...ever.
It's a fishing expedition to find out how many people own these things. So they can come confiscate them from you at a later date.
And charge you with a crime.
Of course it's a trap. Don't fall for it folks.
I've never seen a bigger honeypot for gun owners.
I knew it was a trap , especially when you hear “we’re with the government and we are here to help”
I got goosebumps when I read that quote, man...
Who gave the government power?? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Especially the comments about we goon waive the fees. It’s free! Shows you most people are not stupid and do think for themselves.
🤯 Goes deeper than I originally thought. Was unaware of the 88 open automatic denial. Here I was thinking it was free registration and automatic approval. Damn shame I lost my stuff a few yrs back in a house fire.
Thoughts and prayers, bro.
I know the feeling. Lost all mine in a boating accident while ice fishing next tuesday.
i understand completely. i lost every firearm i owned in a deep sea fishing trip. it was a real shame. i brought them along so me and my buddies could clean them while we fished but then a few big waves came about and tossed them and myself overboard. it was either swim to safety or risk losing my life to save my firearms. still regret it to this day.....
If it's time to lose them, it's time to use them
Unfortunately I lost all my guns in a tragic boating accident fed boi
I sold my guns long ago and interested the money in archery equipment true story the only gun I own is a flintlock muzzle loader.
GOA did not "uncover" this flaw. It was profoundly obvious the second the rule was published by anyone with a seventh grade education. Don't take the $200 bait. If you want to comply, remove brace, file for SBR stamp, pay $200, don't admit to crime.
As soon as I originally heard that pictures were going to be required I knew it was absolutely a TRAP.
What page is that on? All Form 1s have required pictures of engravings just like these.
@@LeasingAgent100 So, you took pictures of guns that you didn't build yet?
Are you a time traveler?
And what is a picture of an engraving?
@@LeasingAgent100 just adding to their filed registry
@@LeasingAgent100 I've never had to take a pic of an engraving.
They DON'T want a picture of the entire gun, just the serial number.
After 90 days whatever you’re applying for should automatically be approved not denied because they couldn’t do their job
And i bet they are still getting paid for it.. 😅😅😅😅😅😅
Do not register. Do not ask permission. Do not comply.
Most definitely a trap. Do not comply what’s so ever.
Honestly, I think they know EXACTLY what they were doing with this rule. It's a temporary trap to get as many SBR's out of the us as possible, and maybe aiming to make them not "Common use" if EVERYONE registered, like what they are hoping for.
Glad someone else is willing to notice the actual evidence of malice that's being presented .
Mistaking malice for incompetence is tyranny's biggest suit of armor.
Probably so, but it’s illegal for them to create a registry which is exactly what they are doing by asking people to register. I see this whole thing falling apart for the ATF
The atf is a domestic Terrorist extortionist human rights violating organization. The justice system does nothing because they vacationed at epstein island
All you would have to do in that case is remove the brace and then would be in compliance
Send your SBR on vacation, store them off-site!
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Im proud to be a member of GOA 🇺🇸
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Same
Shocking, that a fed govmt agency didn't think something through......
If a lawyer has a hard time differentiating things in the law. It shouldn’t be a law.
I think the fatal flaw is that no one will comply with it.
And they shouldn't
Plenty of people are, unfortunately.
I wouldn’t count on it. Look how far the sheeple have gone in the past few years.
r/liberalgunowners is. Unsurprisingly.
@@AlastorsGuns well, liberals are douchebags, so I'm not surprised.
I think you nailed the fact that this rule is virtually impossible to know if you are violating it and impossible to comply with.
Literally impossible to comply with after sending the registration in as the entire process afterwards is out of your hands
@@es4583 you’re a dang coward. Our founders would be disgusted with you. The reason the government has so much power is because of people like you. So keep on bending the knee to these tyrants.
@@es4583 The best way to comply is not to comply. 😎
It seems that attempting to comply with the rule has stiffer penalties than not.
@@es4583 Comply, obey, follow orders. That's what all the sheep say. Good luck Baaahhhhh 🐑
Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should be a store and not a government agency.
DO NOT REGISTER. DO NOT COMPLY. There, I said it.
They knew exactly what they were doing. It's their bread and butter to have as many violations as possible.
The rule is written to give them willy nilly enforcement ability. So they can go after me or you cuz we don't fall in line, but can ignore the ones they want too. Someone needs to kick them in the teeth hard and fast
Very scary situation. I cant imagine any court in the country would allow this "jeopardy" to exist as is.
@@es4583 Do not comply.
@@es4583 Exactly, my pistol now identifies as a rifle.
@@es4583 WTF are AK pistol owners supposed to do ? # I Don't Play With LEGOS
@@christopherbishop4927 they don't care and your inconvenience is not their problem.
@@christopherbishop4927 Are you not able to remove the brace and use it like a pistol instead of a rifle?
This would not only be entrapment. But I’d take this to a jury trial
Don’t underestimate the stupidity of a CA or NY jury.
Good luck man… that is no joke when they can levy the whole book at you to make something stick in that situation. When entrapment is the rule it might not mean squat in court, depends on the judge.
You folks have no clue of the costs to be a plaintiff.
A lawsuit against BATFE would be a civil action. Not criminal. After years and tens of thousands of your fiat dollars you finally get your jury trial. The jury is unanimous 8-0 in your favor. You won ! So you think. The .gov appeals your "win". They make use of a manipulative legal wording in their appeal to the judge. The .gov judge sides with his fellow employees of the government. He throws out the jury verdict !
He throws out your "winning" verdict on a bullshit technicality. You appeal. The government judges on your appeal rule for guess what ? The "losing" government defendant ! You are screwed !
You cannot afford to continue to fight the scum of government. The .gov "wins" again !
How do you think "government" wins 97% of all jury trials. Just look where the judge's paycheck comes from.
The Amerikan judicial system is corrupt. Simple. No matter how righteous you are in challenging .gov you are not part of the government cabal. Your jury "win" becomes meaningless. The scum of government will continue with their illegal actions. It will continue to be .gov business as usual. Your righteous lawsuit was for naught.
It would be a jury trial in federal court. Possibly out of state, in which you will be away from your sources of income. All while being forced to spend tens, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars for your defense. All while they have a blank check to make sure you pay the price for standing up against the government.
That's why it's key for the "big guys" like GOA to file law suits before it comes down to regular people being charged.
Cost a lot of money
The fact that SBRs are regulated like this is insane. What logic is there to ban/regulate them like this?
They need to leave us alone and go after the criminals who are killing people with guns
Do not comply.
As a Special Forces soldier (best friend I’ve ever had) RIP JW, would say “ this is another us guvment trick fuck”
Don't register, don't pay for a right, don't comply!
Pretty sure the Bruen decision should come into play against this.
Why would you ask permission for anything that is provided to you under the Constitution? The supreme law of the land! 💯🤔
Call my governor? Best joke of the day! I live in Oregon. I would end up in jail for “terrorist threats” if I said “I will make sure no one I know votes for you.” That is how twisted our state government is.
Registration leads to Confiscation!! Thanks Jared and GOA.
If you have to ask permission to protect yourself, you're NOT FREE
Since this rule is entrapment, it's unconstitutional on multiple levels
Now, ask the ATF actually cares...
All gun laws are unconstitutional. Shall not be infringed
I really hope this gets brought up before a judge in a lawsuit. Hopefully it's seen as added reason to strike down the whole thing.
Even as an Aussie I know this is unconstitutional!
When did the ATF get authority to create laws?
That doesn't sound like a flaw. It sounds like an intended feature on the ATF's part. Even if they don't act on everyone. They don't have to get everyone. Just key "trouble makers" they've wanted.
Not to mention, even if they don't accept your forms, they'll still have all of the documentation that they want...
Troublemakers dont deal with the NFA 😂
I just don’t understand how “rules” and laws like this get thought up and passed when we have precedent from Supreme Court cases that will literally strike them down. It’s mind boggling to me
It wasn’t passed it was just presented and put into place ! NO PASSING , NO LAW , JUST ORDERS TO COMPLY !
Because they don't care. They just want to do as much damage as possible while it's fought out in court.
The government no longer works for the people Biden told you this. If you don't like it you need jets and nukes to fight back against them. They don't care about our rights anymore.
Lol authoritarian government.
What I don’t understand is how we have so many clueless people in this country. How can you not see what these tyrants are doing? This is what true authoritarian governments do. We aren’t really free in this country. The government keeps on turning up the temp while we sit in the skillet being boiled alive. And folks like you can’t figure out what’s happening.
Did anyone go to the ATFs booth ?
Hopeful that the new Congress will step in and stop this rule.
Complying is condoning this. The power we have and never stand up and use is huge! STOP LETTING UNCONSTITUTIONAL DECREES GO.
Regardless of how unconstitutional this "rule" is, giving a 6 month window to do anything when your organization take a minimum of 1 year to accept suppressor stamps is just laughable
They didn't think it through?? They thought it out very well and are prepared to use whatever information you gave them to prosecute you whenever the need arises.
It’s shameful that this country is in search a turmoil, and they just won’t leave our Second Amendment rights alone . Someone has got too drain the swamp.
They want you disarmed so they can control you. One armed man can control 50 unarmed men. It's apart of the new world order, DISARM AMERICANS.
It's intentional they go after the guns because the other rights go with it
Fluck, ho biDUMB did a low energy, bad script reading on MLK day, *and it was all about taking the guns away.* Everything he says is exactly why the 2nd is there in the 1st place. These tyrants are utter goons.
Enough tannerite will blast open the drain.
We the People need to drain the swamp. It's way past time to water the tree of Liberty.
He said he can’t advise people not to comply with the law….It’s Not A Law!!!!
This sounds like how judges have punitive enforcement discretion over lawyers.
I am donating tomorrow. I love the GOA and FPC.
Thank you for the update.
FPC?
@@zachv1942 firearms policy coalition
@@zachv1942 Firearms Policy Coalition.
Check out Fudd busters on YT.
@bayview5943 says PFC in your comment. So far I've given em about 75$.
@@zachv1942 thanks good sir.
Thank you for letting the public know this is a "trap" by any definition. We deserve better!
This has to change.
How are you going to CHANGE the SHIT SHOW?? by voting for your masters then HOPE for CHANGE or 😭😭 about the shit show?? Or riot and kidnapping the puppets?? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@jpnewman1688 great question, wish I had an answer. For sure vote them out, apply pressure where we can / your local congressman or senator. I write them often 👍
@@jdard5308 did you know the narcissists/sociopaths/psychopaths are the ones that 💘 power and 💵, and 💘 to be admired and adored like GODS??
They 💘 to be politicians, cops, judges, lawyers, preachers, bankers, CEOs, doctors, generals, media, sales, etc..
Why would you want them to be your masters?? And who are their masters??
First this isn't a law. Second the president and his agencies can't make laws, that's what kings and tyrants do. Third even if Congress passed a law there are grandfather clauses.
LAW ENFORCEMENT is lying to the public to look like the good guys, please don't trust them: (Police will enforce the law and they will arrest you, and that's a promise!)
Police don't protect the way people think they do!.
POLICE "Serve and Protect" the states for PROFIT, they do not serve God or the taxpayers that pay their salaries! (Castle Rock vs Gonzales 545 U.S. 748 (2005).
QUALIFIED IMMUNITY protects and shields CORRUPT Fairy-tale Heroes in BLUE from Accountability and Liability distinguishing the POLICE as the #1 "Most Hated TAX Collecting TYRANTS" against good citizens and humanity!
(Police = Violence, aggression, narcissism, alcoholism, and, if there is a God, suicide!).
- QUALIFIED IMMUNITY "PERVERTS" HUMANITY AND EQUAL JUSTICE FOR ALL...
Entrapment plain and simple
This violates both the second and fifth ammendments! Totally unconstitutional!!
according to the 'rules' you don't even need a brace for them to SBR your stuff.
I will be 100% joining GOA and spending as much as I can afford for them. If you value your rights send a few bucks to the people who fight for you. LET THAT BE YOUR STAND!!!
So … why would a NICS check be open for 88 days?
Are you suggesting that ATF plans to open a NICS check and deliberately stall the paperwork? That should be a fun court case!
Where is the organization Americans with Disabilities??? Should they want to fight a ban on pistol brace
This wasn't a flaw. This was *planned.*
Well just like the IRS if you don’t report a bank account how are they going to find out?
“Shall not be infringed”
"As a lawyer, I can not tell people to go against the law"
Anyone read between them lines?
Why would anyone tell them lol.
These same discussions happened during the 1968 GCA amnesty. Guess what an amnesty registered MG is worth today? Guess what an unregistered MG is worth today?
I will not comply.
He can most certainly tell people not to comply with unconstitutional nonsense! Every one of us needs to have a backbone, individually & collectively.
Disclaimer: I’m not faulting the attorney for trying to be smart and not give them anything to use against him professionally and I’m glad he’s on our side, but at some point we have to put those concerns on the back burner and say “enough is enough.” Sick of the infringements and constant push for more while the American people want to “play nice” with the absurd “silent majority” nonsensical train of thought.
Attorneys are ‘officers of the court’ and are under scrutiny as such, constitution or otherwise. That doesn’t make it right however.
Wrong. A judicial or court officer, according to EVERY STATE AND FEDERAL BAR LICENSURE, is not allowed to tell a client to “commit a criminal act”.
Amen. Americans need to act like Americans.
Pretty sure you’re not a attorney. You’d get disbarred quickly.
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Pretty sure you’re a c0w@rd. Laws, and most certainly rules against the constitution are null & void, and thus not a criminal act to violate.
Matt Gaetz has the right idea. We need more like him.
#RedflagMatt Gatez??? No way, we need less RINO's and current politicians that speak good and screw us over on paper. He is a scumbag typical politician.
Problem is...we don't have more like him. The bill is for show. Cant pass a bill without the Senate and Presidential signature.
@@gunsnstuff4040 Exactly. The bill he put forward, while great in theory, is dead before it even got put on paper. The house won't pass it, - just plain ain't gonna happen. But assume some sort of miracle happens, and they actually DO vote on it, and somehow, it passes. The senate will dump it in a corner and unless something even more miraculous than whatever it was that got it to a vote in the house happens, it'll die there without a vote, 'cause the dems will prevent a cloture vote, which means it will never get a vote. But assume that they DID, somehow, by methods I can't even begin to imagine, actually vote on it and pass it, what's gonna happen? Yep, that's right - It's gonna get hit with a veto the instant Brandon lays eyes on it. There's no possible chance that a veto override vote will happen once he does While it's a nice idea, the bill is a great big bag of "Look what I tried to do, but those nasty folks on the other side wouldn't let me - but vote for me in the next election and I'll try again! I mean really! Look at how hard I tried for you!"
No one will get behind him because of the crazy shit like voting the infringer in chief Trump for speaker of the house. The fact that he does wack shit like that makes this look like a wack move to liberals and moderates. Gaetx isnt helping us, quite the opposite.
If you believe he’s putting that bill up for anything other than attention, he’s doing his job as a self serving politician
WE THE PEOPLE!
This is insane!
They have to know this will get sued into hell. This is a scare tactic and a way to get you on a list before that happens.
Sounds like a way to get you imprisoned and impoverished in the meantime.
It's long past time for a massive class action lawsuit against the ATF, arguing that Congress never had any authority to create this agency, and cannot have conferred rule making authority to it, because congress itself did not, and does not, have the authority to make those same rules.
Arguably, they do not have the authority to amend the 2nd amendment.
If they could, they would have done it by now.
its not that they don't have the authority... its literally in the bill of rights that congress can amend it lmaooo people are so fucking dumb. but its that congress hasn't had the consensus necessary to force change. jesus take a US government and politics course or ffs just audit a civics class at your local community college for $50 instead of spouting off weird bullshit ideas.
Could you just imagine if several million firearms owners signed on for a class action suit? That would speak very loudly to the alphabet boys.
No "arguably" about it - Congress doesn't have the power to amend the 2nd just by passing a law. The process for amending the Constitution is spelled out, and has to be ratified by 2/3s of the states. Unfortunately neither the NFA nor the GCA have been held by courts to be, in themselves, unconstitutional - yet. It needs to happen.
@@rogercole5054they won’t do it because they are too corrupt. Just look at the Heller decision. It ain’t as great as everyone says. Scalia blatantly made crap up in his opinion that was NOT based on the text, history, or tradition. He was NOT an originalist.
Forget lawsuits. They're a colossal waste of time and money in front of judges and juries who mostly couldn't care less about the issue, the people it affects or the laws it violates. We need a cleansing, a Constitutional purge to remove the infection from every legislative body in this country. That means recognizing all the people who repeatedly infringes on both natural and lawful rights as traitors. Only when they understand that we will not tolerate their frivolous disregard and disrespect for our rights, and that such treatment will be regarded as treason, will they begin to back off.
Of course, their followers will scream and rant because they're too blind to realize that they're being taken for fools. The one thing they either don't realize or don't care about is the fact that most of their followers share their view on disarmament and will be unarmed, giving us the advantage in a fight because we will show up armed with every weapon we can carry. Both sides will suffer casualties in this encounter, but they will by far suffer greater losses.
The thing they're most banking on is our reluctance to kill our own countrymen, so we have to be resolved to recognize them as a threat but remember that they've been utterly brainwashed and thus rendered blind to any possibilities outside of what their masters have shown them and incapable of recognizing that their masters' goals are the threat and not those who oppose them.
I just submitted a form-1 prior to this "rule" with electronic fingerprints and got it back is 10 days, approved.
What happens when you own 20 plus of these type of guns 🤦
They already started doing this with form 1 suppressors.
They want all kinds of incriminating information to file a form 1 for a suppressor! Been this way for a year now!
Ain't that typical?? Can't tell me that the rule was written and that "accidentally" came up. Dollars to donuts it was done ON PURPOSE. As always, Jared, thanks for ALL you do. Have fun at ShotShow 2023. Hoping some day you'll have some good news to share!! LOL
Unconstitutional period!!
What about the states that have passed anti-infringement laws to protect the 2A from the federal government?