please collabrate with ltt again for a 800 euro 100GbE switch or higher, also please use honeybadger nvme, linus uses that also, small and very fast! iam amazed how you can stay calm with 100gig a second recording files, God bless you. or use ramdisk POWERRRR :)
Considering that they seem to outfit the 12TB version with 12 1tb nvme drives, it looks like the enclosure is in the $3k range. For what appears to be custom hardware so they can drive the throughput required, that is not entirely unreasonable.
Back in college I remember learning about the largest data center in the world. It was a nine story building used exclusively to house all the drives needed to hold one terabyte of data. How things have changed 😮. This was the 1980's when a 500 megabyte drive was the size of a large washing machine.
fwiw, i'll take you back just a wee bit further, to when a 5 MEGABYTE drive (from corvus, 1979-ish?) was the size of a large kitchen microwave, and it cost about $ 3000 US. at the time, i believe the apple 5.25" floppies were running about 120-140 KILOBYTES, depending on the dos version), and the drives themselves were maybe $500 each...
@@travelgirlkegler I was alive at that time, but the only computer I had access to was a special purpose accounting computer that my mom bought VERY used. It had a 5K disk as main memory. The only permanent storage was paper tape! She bought it for $500. I am sure it cost closer to $100,000 when it was new. It was built into a desk and included a high quality (for the time) printer.
@@jirehla-ab1671 no, I really mean 5K. I am not sure of the "byte" size. It predates the standardization on 8-bit bytes. At the time it was built, nothing was done in megabytes. Not even on mainframes. As I implied, it was already old technology in the 70's.
I don't understand using raid0 for dumping footage... As the only copy of that data (since the Phantom mag will be quickly reused) I would have thought he'd want protection for it too. The ideal option would be raid10
I made the same observation. I'm guessing Gavin thinks it's more important to save a few seconds when dumping footage, but if you lose your footage you've lost more than time.
Problems apple shamelessly creating, everybody should have a right to change their storage capacity as they wish but sadly not according to apple ofc...
@@unclesquidy285 I’m simply pointing out that there are so many computers where there isn’t even an option to change it that bringing up Apple for it and not other manufacturers seems unfair when they are at the same price point
Any reason you havent moved to a proxy workflow? Transcoding to something like ProRes LT (in a lower resolution) editing from that, and then just linking to the original footage once you're ready for final export? Or is the .cine RAW file more convenient?
@@TheSlowMoGuys2 I'm scared it will involve a demoted Drobo in an hourly backup vortex because it simply won't die but occupies a stupid segment on the chart of Capacity vs Ease-of-use vs Upgradability vs Noise-and-heat. I can keep putting larger HDDs in there up to 64TB of RAIDish storage. The mind boggles to think what would have been if the company had been developing new products for the last 5 years … Thunderbolt 4, SSD, hybrid … all idiot proof and silent.
Interesting stuff. Curiosity question: what’s the specs of the MacBook you’re using capable of handling those monsters files? Are you planning on getting the new M3 MacBook?
colab idea: get together with MKBHD, you edit a video of his, he edits one of your videos. i dont know how video editing works, i'm just someone who enjoys content from both channels.
Not sure how possible this would be, but it would be very cool to have a longer raw gopro video uploaded to this channel just showing the full setup process of a shoot and seeing the background of going through the shoot.
I imagine it makes sense mainly because the camera technology will improve over time. So if he didn't rent cameras then he'd constantly need to be buying and selling based on advancements in the tech. And I don't know how easy selling second hand Phantoms is.
@@_Wombat renting makes more sense if you only need camera for couple days like he does. these cameras are expensive so having one just sitting on shelf for 99% of time makes no sense.
I haven't been following on the previous installments, but is Gav aware of doing video edits on lo-res proxy videos, and then applying those edits to the hi-res footage?
Very rarely am I jealous of how smart someone is. But Gavin is just a well rounded dude, and his ability to explain so many things the way he does is truly impressive.
Quite sure I bought 2x WD Black 7200rpm 2TB HDD in 2011. It wasn't that expensive, about $260 a piece. That was when RAID became easy accessible to consumers.
Just setup a raid with 3 2TB NVMEs directly on my motherboard with an Intel 14900k and getting 10GB/sec throughput, which is twice the speed he shows at 5:00. Do I need that type of speed? Nah, but it was pretty much free apart from the cost of the drives, so Im pretty happy.
For the last 10+ years I have never been more happy for someone I don't actually know than Gavin haha What a legend and gent. Great to see him doing THE MOST!
You’re speaking my language. (And that’s before you tackled procrastination!) I’m in the market for some large video storage tech - my online/nearline library is breaking through 30 TB and I need SOMETHING. Hmmm yes, I will check those links.
Gavin should do a TED talk about technology, incredible speaker. These unprompted tech and filming educational videos are genuinely interesting and motivate me to learn more about these subjects. Keep it up Gav
It's so funny that you ended up using the "I'll procrastinate editing this video, by editing this other video", cause that's exactly the same way Andrew Scheps, famous audio engineer and mixer (he mixed Adele's big record, among many others), says he mixes songs on a record. He'll hit a wall on one song, and then instead of going and doing something else, he'll just go to another song on the same album and mix that one for a while. Funny how two people working in two entirely different mediums ended up using a similar strategy.
I’m a DIT, I’ve used 4 Iodyne ProData before in the field at a music festival, they’re great but I’ve encountered a few snags: firmware errors at least twice, a broken fan and the Iodyne client downright refused to install on an M2 Mac; hope Iodyne fixed it. Also, be mindful of their temperature, they tend to heat quite a bit and that can affect performance and lifespan of the SSDs; our rental house gave us laptop cooling pads to put them on top of to keep temps at bay.
Can confirm it works on M2 so assume that issue is gone. In my experience all of the stuff I own when transferring at max speed gets hot and it’s definitely something to be mindful of. That 10Gbe thunderbolt adapter I showed could legitimately fry an egg after about 5 minutes.
ProcrtiWorking... A somewhat common term in the graphic design/Illustration industry. You hit a creative block on one thing... go to something else, then return later
I’m not sure if you’ve put one out before, but I would’ve love to see a BTS of you editing one of your projects, even if it’s not to completion because I’m sure that would take ages, but just to see your general workflow would be incredibly helpful I’m sure
This was a really cool insight into how you shoot and edit videos. i was not aware you shot multiple at a single time and released them as they were edited. Also mass storage stuff is so fascinating to me. I really want to set up a storage server for my family to dump and access family media.
Find this side of things pretty interesting, and can definitely relate to swapping between projects! Curious to hear your thoughts on how the Ember stacks up against the Phantom…
in a year you'll build a rack of these and show us an even more insane portable one It never ends. We are drowning in data. We'll need to mine asteroids for the resources needed to make storage for all the data you generate.
Dumping your camera mag’s footage onto a raid 0 array seems pretty risky. What happens when you dump a mag or two’s worth of footage and then loose the pool? Retakes! Would switch it to raid 10 or raid 5 if the performance is still sufficient. Awesome workflow though!
This device is no joke - iodyne pushed out a killer product. We’ve got a couple and nothing comes close to the speed of something that can literally sit next to your computer and charge it…
Super cool. Love these behind the scenes! Curious if speeds are faster if the two cables are plugged into each side of the MacBook Pro. In other words, one cable on the left, one on the right. Because the two ports on one side share the same Thunderbolt controller.
17.5k USD for 48TB is pretty steep price but it's portable and supports so many devices at the same time. There are not many external storages like this at all. I just wonder if you can change or add more SSDs yourself.
I have 3 of the OWC 4M2 enclosures and I love them with my M1 Studio Ultra. I use them as 16 TB drives using Raid level 0 and Disc Utility (not Softraid due to simplicity and superb results with Disc Utiility Raid). I use 4 of the Samsung 990 PRO 4 TB SSDs and I love them. I get 2840 write and 2340 read speeds. The Samsungs are down to $249 and the enclosure is only $249 so I get screaming fast 16 TB data rates for only $1250! I absolutely love these combinations and highly recommend them. At most the enclosures get minimally warm to the touch and I have zero fan noise.
It would be incredibly interesting to see what your field setup is like. How you manage data at your shoots, the time that goes into prepping at the site, etc. Unless its an industry secret or you don't want competing interests to know, seems like it would be a cool bit to share!
Me watching a video about a $17,500 drive array and thinking about much better it would be than my janky collection of decade-old Western Digital hard drives.
Perfect example of a person who would benefit from the absolute fastest Macbook Pro M3 Max. Money can't be an issue.....those cameras and swappable drive units must make a new Macbook look like downright bargain.
I love these behind the scenes videos. I would love to hear about how you and Dan create a video. What your roles are when planning and logistics. Is it a well oiled machine or do you do most stuff on the fly?
It would be really interesting to see someone do this for SFF flash drives. Cram 10 30TB u.2 drives into it and then run back to the computer over a pair of 40gbps thunderbolt links. it'd be crazy expensive and would need aux power, but it'd be really cool.
@@seethruhead7119 considering that a Kioxia CM6-V 12TB drive seems to be about $2,000 each (new), the CM6-R 30TB are going to be at least double that per drive, and for 10 drives that's probably $50,000+ in just drives, and at that point all you have is a big jbod case. You'd still need software running on the case to mimic this with the pools and authentication stuff. you really should be using enterprise drives for this sort of ingest workload as they won't slow to a crawl after a couple hundred gig of writes.
@@TalesOfWar I didnt say it was overpriced, I said the hardware was overpriced. Considering the PRO market they are targeting, nothing can be called overpriced. But the hardware in that box, is probably worth retail under 25% of what they are charging. The software, development and experience is what they are charging for.
@@jtaulen if you do the math for 4.5K for 12TB and 17.5K for 48 it doesnt make sense as high quality NVME storage isnt even $100 a TB which means subtracting storage if we use 4TB samsung 990 pro's the same device goes from costing 3.5K to 12K at 48TB
@@captainheat2314 You can literally buy a 4tb 990 for way under 400 USD, x 12 = 4800 USD And thats HIGH END drives. Or you can buy 2 x 61.44TB Solidigm disk for a total of 8K USD :)
Funny to now see one of the reasons to a noticeable increase in the quantity and quality of videos! Would be interesting to hear any hellish stories you have on losing or giving up on projects due the sheer size of data
Depending on the subject we sometimes rent when the one I own isn’t the right speed or resolution combination. It’s unfortunately not practical to own them all even though I’d love to 😢
It’s a nice solution but a bit expensive for what it is. I built a 32TB nvme raid with the OWC U.2 enclosure for around $2k. Since prices for nvme’s have dropped I build a second OWC 4M2 16TB to transfer on set for $900
As someone who's getting more and more into the technical side of filmmaking and data wrangling, I was baffled thinking about how much of a nightmare working with slow-mo files must be. When I discovered your industry background was as a DIT, it all made sense. I've been a watcher since like day 1, so learning all the technical stuff is a treat (now that I am older and can appreciate it)
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I love these technical videos you put out, Gav.
please collabrate with ltt again for a 800 euro 100GbE switch or higher, also please use honeybadger nvme, linus uses that also, small and very fast! iam amazed how you can stay calm with 100gig a second recording files, God bless you. or use ramdisk POWERRRR :)
Same, I could listen to him go into detail about something niche and technical for an hour and thoroughly enjoy that
Funny enough, it's the same for me, even though I barely understand anything Gav is talking about :D
These are my favourite videos on this platform besides the main projects he's talking about
Adverts* but they’re good
I liked hearing about your editing process
I love the way the episodes are cut
Next time when you have an editing problem you want to get over, just do the old ‘star wipe’ into a compilation of Dan saying “Flip!”.
Waiting while working is really frustrating. Very cool drive. So does that mean more videos?
Really isn't that expensive for multi ch tbolt 48tb thing, even the storage cost for 48tb would be near that price alone
hopefully we'll all still be around in 15 years to see and laugh at how small this setup is.
Can you imagine a world where a 100tb SSD costs $50? 😅😮🤞
Storage is always a problem for me. We have a 200TB Nas and its almost full.
Maybe after 15 years, my comment has comments
@@bigenthapa5079 Maybe?
Moore’s law
Switching between five projects at a time because of spurts of interest in each of them is so incredibly relatable
Aboustly true..
ADHD ✨
I'm so glad I'm not the only one... lol
@@aykay1303as a f**kface listener, yeah…
For anyone wondering, these are the prices:
12 TB: $4,450
24 TB: $7,500
48 TB: $17,500
anyone else open their eyes real wide when they read this?
Considering that they seem to outfit the 12TB version with 12 1tb nvme drives, it looks like the enclosure is in the $3k range. For what appears to be custom hardware so they can drive the throughput required, that is not entirely unreasonable.
@@jiujitsumonkey1 ohhh yeah haha. definatley meant for the professional market
@@known1443but why wouldn't one just buy the 12TB version and fill it up with 4TB SSDs?
@@reallyshortfacedbear wouldn't surprise me if they put some custom FW on it to stop that being possible.
Love the regular Slow Mo Giys storage updates its so interesting to learn about the methods to deal with that much information.
Back in college I remember learning about the largest data center in the world. It was a nine story building used exclusively to house all the drives needed to hold one terabyte of data. How things have changed 😮.
This was the 1980's when a 500 megabyte drive was the size of a large washing machine.
fwiw, i'll take you back just a wee bit further, to when a 5 MEGABYTE drive (from corvus, 1979-ish?) was the size of a large kitchen microwave, and it cost about $ 3000 US. at the time, i believe the apple 5.25" floppies were running about 120-140 KILOBYTES, depending on the dos version), and the drives themselves were maybe $500 each...
@@travelgirlkegler I was alive at that time, but the only computer I had access to was a special purpose accounting computer that my mom bought VERY used. It had a 5K disk as main memory. The only permanent storage was paper tape! She bought it for $500. I am sure it cost closer to $100,000 when it was new. It was built into a desk and included a high quality (for the time) printer.
@@johnbennett1465isnt it 5 megabytes?
@@jirehla-ab1671 no, I really mean 5K. I am not sure of the "byte" size. It predates the standardization on 8-bit bytes. At the time it was built, nothing was done in megabytes. Not even on mainframes. As I implied, it was already old technology in the 70's.
Now a TB fits inside a microSDXC memory card the size of a fingernail. That's crazy!
You might want to connect drive to different sides of the Mac because each pair of ports on each side is on the same controller and share bandwidth.
I'd guess you specifically CAN'T do that.
True, but only on the Intel Macs, Apple Silicon ones use a single controller per port.
No this is false, each port has a CD3217 controller each, easily verifiable with schematics or by looking at the motherboard
Glad you got a sponsor deal on that thing. It is comically overpriced for anyone else. $6000 worth of drives in a $12,000 enclosure.
time is money, it saves him a lot of time, it costs a lot so your time has to be worth a lot. . .
I don't understand using raid0 for dumping footage... As the only copy of that data (since the Phantom mag will be quickly reused) I would have thought he'd want protection for it too. The ideal option would be raid10
I made the same observation. I'm guessing Gavin thinks it's more important to save a few seconds when dumping footage, but if you lose your footage you've lost more than time.
Problems apple shamelessly creating, everybody should have a right to change their storage capacity as they wish but sadly not according to apple ofc...
Most laptops now have solders on storage and many desktops too
@@UKsystems Nope, they don't so i really wonder where you learned such a nonsense..
@@ggoddkkiller1342 by repairing them most now ones that are lower budget use solderd on chips now for storage
@@UKsystems They really don't you just dislike people hating on apple for genuine reasons
@@unclesquidy285 I’m simply pointing out that there are so many computers where there isn’t even an option to change it that bringing up Apple for it and not other manufacturers seems unfair when they are at the same price point
Any reason you havent moved to a proxy workflow? Transcoding to something like ProRes LT (in a lower resolution) editing from that, and then just linking to the original footage once you're ready for final export? Or is the .cine RAW file more convenient?
This video just screams proxy workflow being needed.
Don't take this the wrong way, but I hope you have more issues, so we can get more great content like this. - Enthusiast
This is not the final video. Let's be honest here. Can't wait to watch the 4th installment of storage upgrades.
Hate to say it, you’re probably right.
@@TheSlowMoGuys2 I'm scared it will involve a demoted Drobo in an hourly backup vortex because it simply won't die but occupies a stupid segment on the chart of Capacity vs Ease-of-use vs Upgradability vs Noise-and-heat. I can keep putting larger HDDs in there up to 64TB of RAIDish storage. The mind boggles to think what would have been if the company had been developing new products for the last 5 years … Thunderbolt 4, SSD, hybrid … all idiot proof and silent.
Interesting stuff. Curiosity question: what’s the specs of the MacBook you’re using capable of handling those monsters files? Are you planning on getting the new M3 MacBook?
This is a 2018 Mac book pro. It still feels new to me so I haven’t updated it. Probably should soon though. 😢
colab idea: get together with MKBHD, you edit a video of his, he edits one of your videos.
i dont know how video editing works, i'm just someone who enjoys content from both channels.
Recording at 100gig a second is just mind boggling. I never realised just how much goes into your videos. Hats off you you gents.
I find it interesting to see how technology have improved.
Remember when I bought my first 1 gigabyte drive.
Seriously. I remember a friend getting a new computer with 500 MB and I'm like, aw yeah, that's a good amount.
My first 1GB drive cost $1600, which would have made 48TB ~$78M. My how things have changed.
Love the behind-the-scenes stuff and the tech stuff!
nice to see the Everyday Calendar by Simone Giertz in use
I love it so much
the idea that a single person NEEDS this much storage and transfer speeds is wild. You're a niche case but still...
How are the CO² levels in there, though?
"About the size of my MacBook Pro"
Dude, that thing is obviously much larger and like three times as thick.
888 MB/s is insane, to put that in perspective for people 4k60 videos from youtube recommend a bitrate of 8.5 MB/s
Not sure how possible this would be, but it would be very cool to have a longer raw gopro video uploaded to this channel just showing the full setup process of a shoot and seeing the background of going through the shoot.
Anyone else still amazed how gavin doesn't just own the cameras he uses?
I imagine it makes sense mainly because the camera technology will improve over time.
So if he didn't rent cameras then he'd constantly need to be buying and selling based on advancements in the tech. And I don't know how easy selling second hand Phantoms is.
@@_Wombat renting makes more sense if you only need camera for couple days like he does. these cameras are expensive so having one just sitting on shelf for 99% of time makes no sense.
@@jdoe true also
I own two, but we often need other cameras from the range and it isn’t practical to own all of them considering their absolutely staggering price.
Not if he only uses it for a few days at a time and then many months in between when Dan flys out.
I haven't been following on the previous installments, but is Gav aware of doing video edits on lo-res proxy videos, and then applying those edits to the hi-res footage?
Yeah I used to use proxies a lot more than I do now.
@@TheSlowMoGuys2what do you find the disadvantages are with a proxy workflow?
Very rarely am I jealous of how smart someone is. But Gavin is just a well rounded dude, and his ability to explain so many things the way he does is truly impressive.
That's just insane data. I remember 12 years ago when my friend had a 1TB family computer which was unheard of in a regular household.
a terabyte of storage back in 2011? that's certainly a beast of a setup
I had 512gb for my first rig back in 2010 and thought it was overkill
Quite sure I bought 2x WD Black 7200rpm 2TB HDD in 2011. It wasn't that expensive, about $260 a piece. That was when RAID became easy accessible to consumers.
what? you could find 1tb HDD in 2010 for not even 150$ @@litapd311
Just setup a raid with 3 2TB NVMEs directly on my motherboard with an Intel 14900k and getting 10GB/sec throughput, which is twice the speed he shows at 5:00. Do I need that type of speed? Nah, but it was pretty much free apart from the cost of the drives, so Im pretty happy.
And then i thought that my camera ate data at 1GB per second in raw..
For the last 10+ years I have never been more happy for someone I don't actually know than Gavin haha
What a legend and gent. Great to see him doing THE MOST!
Is the password protected "container" encrypted in any way?
You’re speaking my language. (And that’s before you tackled procrastination!) I’m in the market for some large video storage tech - my online/nearline library is breaking through 30 TB and I need SOMETHING. Hmmm yes, I will check those links.
Gavin should do a TED talk about technology, incredible speaker. These unprompted tech and filming educational videos are genuinely interesting and motivate me to learn more about these subjects. Keep it up Gav
I'm surprised you're still on an Intel based Macbook Pro! An upgrade to an M series surely will help your workflow too.
It's so funny that you ended up using the "I'll procrastinate editing this video, by editing this other video", cause that's exactly the same way Andrew Scheps, famous audio engineer and mixer (he mixed Adele's big record, among many others), says he mixes songs on a record. He'll hit a wall on one song, and then instead of going and doing something else, he'll just go to another song on the same album and mix that one for a while. Funny how two people working in two entirely different mediums ended up using a similar strategy.
Am curious how you go about power management when you are out in the quarry, etc. Do you have a portable generator with you for it?
We have a battery and solar panels. You can see them on the floor in the background of some of the videos.
I’m a DIT, I’ve used 4 Iodyne ProData before in the field at a music festival, they’re great but I’ve encountered a few snags: firmware errors at least twice, a broken fan and the Iodyne client downright refused to install on an M2 Mac; hope Iodyne fixed it.
Also, be mindful of their temperature, they tend to heat quite a bit and that can affect performance and lifespan of the SSDs; our rental house gave us laptop cooling pads to put them on top of to keep temps at bay.
Can confirm it works on M2 so assume that issue is gone. In my experience all of the stuff I own when transferring at max speed gets hot and it’s definitely something to be mindful of. That 10Gbe thunderbolt adapter I showed could legitimately fry an egg after about 5 minutes.
any plan for the m3 max macbook pro?
Did they sponsor you with a $20K storage setup?! 😮😮 Holy f**king Christ
ProcrtiWorking... A somewhat common term in the graphic design/Illustration industry. You hit a creative block on one thing... go to something else, then return later
Please dont stop making these videos!!
I’m not sure if you’ve put one out before, but I would’ve love to see a BTS of you editing one of your projects, even if it’s not to completion because I’m sure that would take ages, but just to see your general workflow would be incredibly helpful I’m sure
This was a really cool insight into how you shoot and edit videos. i was not aware you shot multiple at a single time and released them as they were edited. Also mass storage stuff is so fascinating to me. I really want to set up a storage server for my family to dump and access family media.
"Final video" until you have to film in 24k at 20,000,000 FPS and need to upgrade again
Find this side of things pretty interesting, and can definitely relate to swapping between projects! Curious to hear your thoughts on how the Ember stacks up against the Phantom…
Love the ember so far. The size, the UI. Phenomenal.
£15k… will need to start saving up 😅
Dan "flys in"? What? I thought you lived together in the same house! The illusion is shattered.
Gav lives in Texas and Dan lives in England.
One time he tunnelled in. That took a really long time though so hopefully there is no need to repeat it.
@@korakys I mean the tunnel is dug now so it should be much faster next time 😅
"And thr final video--"
NOOOO
"Of what has become a series of"
Oh okay.
Don't pause for that long on final dude
Final video. That's funny Gavin.
Lol yeah that was an incredibly optimistic thing to say.
What a gaming system that could be turned into!!!
Gav, have you consider upgrading your MacBook Pro to like an M3 Max MacBook Pro?
Isn't it a big risk to travel with a device holding in progess edits? Sure you've got the raw footage, but you may lose weeks of edit time.
They are all backed up to the desktop drives before I travel
in a year you'll build a rack of these and show us an even more insane portable one
It never ends. We are drowning in data.
We'll need to mine asteroids for the resources needed to make storage for all the data you generate.
Dumping your camera mag’s footage onto a raid 0 array seems pretty risky. What happens when you dump a mag or two’s worth of footage and then loose the pool? Retakes! Would switch it to raid 10 or raid 5 if the performance is still sufficient. Awesome workflow though!
I typically also keep a copy on the MacBook internal when I’m out there. It’s never just one copy.
This device is no joke - iodyne pushed out a killer product. We’ve got a couple and nothing comes close to the speed of something that can literally sit next to your computer and charge it…
How do you use yours?
Super cool. Love these behind the scenes!
Curious if speeds are faster if the two cables are plugged into each side of the MacBook Pro. In other words, one cable on the left, one on the right. Because the two ports on one side share the same Thunderbolt controller.
17.5k USD for 48TB is pretty steep price but it's portable and supports so many devices at the same time. There are not many external storages like this at all. I just wonder if you can change or add more SSDs yourself.
I would love that, but those are toys for the wealthy.
Which means they get them for free, for sponsorships.
Why don't you use proxies? Or is the filesize still too large?
I have 3 of the OWC 4M2 enclosures and I love them with my M1 Studio Ultra. I use them as 16 TB drives using Raid level 0 and Disc Utility (not Softraid due to simplicity and superb results with Disc Utiility Raid). I use 4 of the Samsung 990 PRO 4 TB SSDs and I love them. I get 2840 write and 2340 read speeds. The Samsungs are down to $249 and the enclosure is only $249 so I get screaming fast 16 TB data rates for only $1250! I absolutely love these combinations and highly recommend them. At most the enclosures get minimally warm to the touch and I have zero fan noise.
It would be incredibly interesting to see what your field setup is like. How you manage data at your shoots, the time that goes into prepping at the site, etc. Unless its an industry secret or you don't want competing interests to know, seems like it would be a cool bit to share!
No, but when did you first start recording this and how long did it take to edit?
My first computer in 1995 had a 3MB hard drive 😂
"Content; for better or worse" doesn't apply to this channel.
Great info. What state are you in? Does Dan live in the UK and fly in? What does he do outside of these videos?
Why does Gavin sound like he has adhd and just doesn’t know it?
HDD is quickly becoming osbolete
Me watching a video about a $17,500 drive array and thinking about much better it would be than my janky collection of decade-old Western Digital hard drives.
This is the same guy that suffocates his brain with cat breath
100 GBs of video camera footage per second..... does the camera have a terabyte of RAM? how does the camera storage keep up with that?
512GB RAM
Perfect example of a person who would benefit from the absolute fastest Macbook Pro M3 Max. Money can't be an issue.....those cameras and swappable drive units must make a new Macbook look like downright bargain.
This dude has more data storage on his desktop than some countries have in their entirety 😆
Good information
I love these behind the scenes videos. I would love to hear about how you and Dan create a video. What your roles are when planning and logistics. Is it a well oiled machine or do you do most stuff on the fly?
I can't imagine how you keep up with exploding file sizes, whether it's data flows or storage!
You’re going grey, in yearly slow mo.
It would be really interesting to see someone do this for SFF flash drives. Cram 10 30TB u.2 drives into it and then run back to the computer over a pair of 40gbps thunderbolt links. it'd be crazy expensive and would need aux power, but it'd be really cool.
less expensive than this thing
which is 17500 for the 48tb version...
@@seethruhead7119 considering that a Kioxia CM6-V 12TB drive seems to be about $2,000 each (new), the CM6-R 30TB are going to be at least double that per drive, and for 10 drives that's probably $50,000+ in just drives, and at that point all you have is a big jbod case. You'd still need software running on the case to mimic this with the pools and authentication stuff. you really should be using enterprise drives for this sort of ingest workload as they won't slow to a crawl after a couple hundred gig of writes.
Holy moses, thats overpriced hardware if I have ever seen it
In what way is it overpriced?
@@TalesOfWar I didnt say it was overpriced, I said the hardware was overpriced. Considering the PRO market they are targeting, nothing can be called overpriced. But the hardware in that box, is probably worth retail under 25% of what they are charging. The software, development and experience is what they are charging for.
@@jtaulen if you do the math for 4.5K for 12TB and 17.5K for 48 it doesnt make sense as high quality NVME storage isnt even $100 a TB which means subtracting storage if we use 4TB samsung 990 pro's the same device goes from costing 3.5K to 12K at 48TB
@@captainheat2314 You can literally buy a 4tb 990 for way under 400 USD, x 12 = 4800 USD And thats HIGH END drives. Or you can buy 2 x 61.44TB Solidigm disk for a total of 8K USD :)
@@captainheat2314 pretty sure we agree on this :)
you should look at the 16 inch M3 pro or max Macs, they blow the performance of your current one out of the water
Sounds like Gavin is just a fulltime editor who happens to make videos. XD Awesome stuff to be seeing what goes on in the background.
I edit every day 😊
Funny to now see one of the reasons to a noticeable increase in the quantity and quality of videos!
Would be interesting to hear any hellish stories you have on losing or giving up on projects due the sheer size of data
5:13 Rent? Never knew you rented those cameras
It makes sense otherwise they'd have to have loads of super expensive cameras lying unused for a lot of the year.
Depending on the subject we sometimes rent when the one I own isn’t the right speed or resolution combination. It’s unfortunately not practical to own them all even though I’d love to 😢
@@TheSlowMoGuys2which camera(s) do you own? And you borrow from Destin, right?
hopeless. I pity your IT guy.
I’m going to show this to my uncle who got his degree in computer science in the early 1960’s.
17k usd, price pr gb is actually quite decent given the featureset
Any update on releasing a 4K Blu ray?
I can't wait for this technology to not cost as much as car so non-rich creators can actually afford it.
This is the reason we've been getting more frequent uploads without a drop in quality in videos. Love the tech updates and bts
It’s a nice solution but a bit expensive for what it is. I built a 32TB nvme raid with the OWC U.2 enclosure for around $2k. Since prices for nvme’s have dropped I build a second OWC 4M2 16TB to transfer on set for $900
That room is probably really warm! lol
As someone who's getting more and more into the technical side of filmmaking and data wrangling, I was baffled thinking about how much of a nightmare working with slow-mo files must be. When I discovered your industry background was as a DIT, it all made sense. I've been a watcher since like day 1, so learning all the technical stuff is a treat (now that I am older and can appreciate it)
Not upgrading your MacBook to the new sole silicon?
so much space for quarry activities
It's disgusting how much storage slow motion needs 😂
Gav is just such a good dude