10 + years experience here. Cut a good 6" above your destination cut on the jacket then pull back with the string and cut jacket. No nicks on the termination end less "Warranty" work.
I think Terry did a great job, just pointed out the safety issues. I'm a qualified electrician as well as a very experienced IT Tech. Very few electricians use utility knives, because mos of them, like myself, know several tradesmen with half their thumb missing due to the incorrect use of these knives. And yes no safety glasses = send home, but so does putting them on with a knife in your hand!
Thanks for the kind words back to Dean. I never intended this to show perfection but to show my son how to do this back in Canada…1500 miles from me. He started his own cabling business after this and has perfected the whole termination stuff far better than me. This is a good introduction for people to only improve on if they wish.
Been doing cable infrastructure for 20 years. Almost every place I have worked we were absolutely forbidden to use tie wraps on the cable.... Velcro only, or in the case of central offices or AT&T buildings, 12-cord. And the next cable monkey I catch using snips to trim the ends off a tie wrap gets a smack in the back of the head. At Lucent, we were required to use flush cuts. I got in the habit of using flush cuts real fast where we were allowed to use tie wraps. A tie wrap with a jagged tail sticking out will flay your arm or hand open so fast it ain't funny! Looks like yours seem to be trimmed nicely flush. Good show.
Just read through the 40 comments. Thx for all of them. Some responses to comments about safety, velcro, knife used etc. Both Velcro and cable ties are fine. If cables are added later it does make it easier to have velcro so I agree with that. I use velcro as best option but on some jobs like this I was out of it so I used wraps. Re:Knife…..I like my guys to use the stripping tool but I have been doing this so long I score the sheath without any inside wire damage due to such sensitive feel now. Not a good choice for most though. Re:Safety….I agree that glasses should be worn for "every" part of cable installation including terminations. I was lazy. Should have put them on. Re: 1/2" rule…..yes…..EIA/TIA standards state that only 1/2" exposed wires at termination to panels. Re: Grounding…..Most city and County building codes in USA require #6 AWG grounding of all Racks, Ladder pathways and even small wall mount brackets like in the video. I honestly do not see it's benefit since all equipment connected in any way to these areas has a 3rd wire ground already. Just obey local codes and laws.
+Terry Running I believe for CAT5e 1/2" is completely acceptable but with CAT6 they tightened that spec to only 3/8". Thank you for the presentation. It's helping me visualize what I'm studying in my networking class.
The ground is primarily about installation safety. If any lose electrical wire touches the back, it should connect to ground. There is an alternative, plastic patch panels.
Hi Guys I am an open registered cabler in Australia. Important to never twist or pull on the cable more that 4 KG force. Never bend a TP cable more than 10 degrees because it will change the impedance of the cable and will create errors in the data packets sent over the network. Never cable ties as it will crush the TPs and change the impedance of the cable. There are regulations in you country about structured cabling rules and cabling standards look them up before doing any work or you could be breaking the law or voiding your home insurance. Use the right tools for the job there is a draw string in the cable for removing the outer sheath not a Stanley knife. Use a trained professional for your own safety. But this job looks nice but it would not pass Fluke DSX CableAnalyzer or Australian standards and would need to be redone if done here. Thats why trained professional only want to pull cable once and you pros know what I mean :)
H LaWMaN H mate what a load of shit you’ve just said 😂😂😂 i terminate cat 6 panels everyday pretty much and I can tell you now my panels don’t fail when I use a cable stripper the string is pointless and before you say you don’t have a fluke I use fluke dsx testers
It can be random. The key thing is to be sure every port # matches a location in the office. It is helpful to do an "as-built" floor plan with all the office locations numbered. Unless the switch you will be patching to has dedicated ports for a Virtual LAN set up, any port can patched into any switch port.
I know this was a tutorial, definitely beautiful structuring, but shouldn't you have maintained the twist as close as possible prior to termination? We are always demanded by construction specs to keep twist right at termination at the patch.
In my opinion, the amount of cables grouped does not seem appropriate. You should separate into groups of between 15 and 20, take them apart to improve the insertion (IL) of them and in addition to avoid electromagnetic induction, this is important if the network should then be Certified. About CAT6A no more than 10 cables this is due to the frequency that handles the cable. On the other hand I agree on the use of the corresponding tools and materials (cable ties and shear not indicated for such operation) this will make our installation is standardized, avoiding damage to the network materials and during the process to avoid accidents by not use the corresponding tools.
Without labeling, your guys are going to do alot of walking from room to room to tone those cables out. Unless it's a tie panel to other floor patch panel.
thanks for the video, I'm studying to get into networking and I'm having trouble grasping why a patch panel is even necessary.....If a room has network wall outlets available, then you should just be able to move to the new port.....the only thing I can think of is that the devices need to stay connected to the same port on the switch in order to avoid IP conflicts.....but any feedback on this would be helpful.
I'm sure you figured it out but modular plugs have a tendency to fail so using a patch panel between the switch and the end user termination provides a fairly cost effective method to reduce service calls. Also patch panels make servicing and making changes to a network a breeze.
Man I wish I got load bars to work with. I’m trying a non-load bar solution with straight on termination for a bit to see if I can get it to meet my standards. Who knows, there’s a thousands ways to skin a cat.
U need to folow the numbers in cable to have a pair strait in the oder end man. I guess u have cable 1 and 23 for exemple in the oder place.. always numbers and respect the order of the numbers
I'm curious that none of the cables seem to have any kind of identification or labeling on them so how do you know that you're landing the right cable on the right patch point? It looks as though it's completely random, based on where they lie in the bundle.
@@jasonlee3247 so you are saying that port#1 will be for example unit209 and port#2will be unit201. By your logic and not labeling before hand all the ports will be random and not sequencial. Will be nightmare trying to troubleshoot that
"you take the one on the insde always" .... dident you number your cabels arent the customer find it strange if his telecommunications outlet 1 2 3 4 5 is located at port 2 6 8 9 or and you dont unspinn the wire . the twist in the twistet pair is there to reduce crosstalk you are going to get a lot of NEXT and FEXT errors.
There's no reason to number your cables at all, unless explicitly asked to have certain numbered ports in certain locations. It take far less time to run, terminate and then have one guy stick a toner in the wall jack and have another guy at the patch panel with a walkie-talkie tell him what port he just lit up.Label the jack and call it a day.
Bret DaCosta The idea of structured cabling is to have structure. If you're in IT and you're looking for outlet number 123. But 123 is next to numbers 078 and 021 then it's gonna be hard to find an outlet. When you look at a floor plan the outlets should follow some structure; if you terminate with no order of cables then you're just gonna have a random mess.
Thomas Harman14 this video is clearly proving my point, I see no mess here albeit it's not a union quality job but it's neat. Unless you have a requirement i.e ports on a specific VLAN that will not cross multiple switches and you know what your rack and patch panels are going to look like before the space is built which is pretty much never the case in the SMB market I find.. the run, terminate and label last is far more efficient. There is a reason why cable mappers were made.
Bret DaCosta I suppose it's just the way we're taught here in UK. The company I work for here has the contracts for all the large banks so everything we do has to be very exact and precise. PS I'd never heard of a cable mapper until you just said haha looked it up, great invention
Just saw you comments. You sound like many techs I have met that seem to look at things like the glass is half full and feel that sounding off like everyone else's work is less than acceptable, wrong etc. Spreading sour grapes does not elevate you sir. I am far from perfect. Thanks for pointing out your opinion about everything. This video was only posted as a guide for my son who needed a reminder look at terminations as he is learning on his own now.
You should never use a stanley / utility knife to pair a cable. If you have to,never have your thumb facing the naked blade, always cut away from your body. Oh and never put you glasses on with an extended sharp blade in your hand.
Ele escolhe o cabo à toa não o têm numeração nos cabos, e isso mostra k nao sabe o k faz. Em redes estruturadas é super importante marcar os cabos para k na outra extremidade saia certo. Imagina do outeo lado desses cabos tens pontos duplos? Como ele vai fzr? Vai meter os cabos à toa? Têm k meter is numeros seguidos. Tipo pontos de rede : 01 A 02 ai a etiketa têm k bater certo no nr do painel. Esse cara ai não sabe o k faz...
Great dressing job, but NEVER follow his instructions to strip the wire. Commercial strippers are cheap and do not cut the insulation on the inner wires.
Cut them with your Klein snips and put new ones in. They should be snug, but not so snug that you can't move the individual cables with a modicum of pulling. If too tight, then you do indeed have a bitch in heat.
Never strip cable with a razor knife, never ever untwist the cable before landing it, where did you get your BICSI Certs ? Real techs use scissors, I think its a nice thing you did with the video but you are showing bad practices in your technique its not by the book or the way manufactures teach it....
scissor your ass. What the f*ck are you talking about manufactures teaches f*cking scissors to strip cables? Ever heard of Cable stripper? Even my cat5e crimper has a very accurate striper so precise you wont have to problem about cutting the inside cables. STFU man. Lmao
I personally use IDEAL Data T Cutter with a semi dull edge (dull because I use them so much). I agree cable scissors suck and you'll definitely end up nicking a pair. Plus I'm left handed and can't use those scissors without pinching my palm. Strippers are nice but then you would have to keep switching between tools
+HeavyMecha Your boss makes you guys use strippers because he has incompetent people on his payroll. If you cannot consistently score the jacket of a cable with your snips without ever nicking any of the pairs, you haven't been in this line of work long enough to bear the responsibility of terminating anything. And Dan was 100% right, this guy is conveying terrible messages with his practices. Aside from lacking proper tools to complete the job, he now has to go tone every cable on the field side to ID the port position on the patch panel. GTFOH guy
It's not how I would have done it personally. Go to twitter @PaulDoyleComms to see some really nice install pics. We always aim for the highest standards.
This looks horrible. You wouldn't last an 8 hr shift at my company. My supervisor would whip you with those tie-wraps as you were being escorted off the jobsite. TH-cam needs to do a better job reviewing videos before putting them up on their website...
Whats the Ugly Part, , He did a Good job, you must NOT be in the Field to much to recognized good work, It's A lot of work, Not to mention Uniformity and Craftsmanship is hard to find now day's.
That`s why you ashamed because you cannot present a panel like that Dean. A BIG THANK YOU TO TERRY for showing us little guys how to do it. Just show how much you love your son. He should be proud having a dad like that knowing that he could get bad comments but still doing it for his son. Thanks again Terry. Unlike these stupid arrogant beings.
+Dean King how rude. No need for this type of poor behavior. If you have some advice then give it. Otherwise, your rude comments add nothing to this conversation.
10 + years experience here. Cut a good 6" above your destination cut on the jacket then pull back with the string and cut jacket. No nicks on the termination end less "Warranty" work.
I think Terry did a great job, just pointed out the safety issues. I'm a qualified electrician as well as a very experienced IT Tech. Very few electricians use utility knives, because mos of them, like myself, know several tradesmen with half their thumb missing due to the incorrect use of these knives. And yes no safety glasses = send home, but so does putting them on with a knife in your hand!
Thanks for the kind words back to Dean. I never intended this to show perfection but to show my son how to do this back in Canada…1500 miles from me. He started his own cabling business after this and has perfected the whole termination stuff far better than me. This is a good introduction for people to only improve on if they wish.
you better start running before i hug you
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Wow . Thanks for the share. Recently transitioned into IT and this video will go a long way
I winced watching him put on his sunglasses while holding that knife...
Been doing cable infrastructure for 20 years. Almost every place I have worked we were absolutely forbidden to use tie wraps on the cable.... Velcro only, or in the case of central offices or AT&T buildings, 12-cord. And the next cable monkey I catch using snips to trim the ends off a tie wrap gets a smack in the back of the head. At Lucent, we were required to use flush cuts. I got in the habit of using flush cuts real fast where we were allowed to use tie wraps. A tie wrap with a jagged tail sticking out will flay your arm or hand open so fast it ain't funny! Looks like yours seem to be trimmed nicely flush. Good show.
I used to work at Lucent as well, never used tie wraps in the co’s, only 12 cord. Lucent was the best cable infrastructure job I ever had.
Just read through the 40 comments. Thx for all of them. Some responses to comments about safety, velcro, knife used etc. Both Velcro and cable ties are fine. If cables are added later it does make it easier to have velcro so I agree with that. I use velcro as best option but on some jobs like this I was out of it so I used wraps. Re:Knife…..I like my guys to use the stripping tool but I have been doing this so long I score the sheath without any inside wire damage due to such sensitive feel now. Not a good choice for most though. Re:Safety….I agree that glasses should be worn for "every" part of cable installation including terminations. I was lazy. Should have put them on. Re: 1/2" rule…..yes…..EIA/TIA standards state that only 1/2" exposed wires at termination to panels. Re: Grounding…..Most city and County building codes in USA require #6 AWG grounding of all Racks, Ladder pathways and even small wall mount brackets like in the video. I honestly do not see it's benefit since all equipment connected in any way to these areas has a 3rd wire ground already. Just obey local codes and laws.
The company I work for has us use electrician scissors to strip the cable
+Terry Running I believe for CAT5e 1/2" is completely acceptable but with CAT6 they tightened that spec to only 3/8". Thank you for the presentation. It's helping me visualize what I'm studying in my networking class.
The ground is primarily about installation safety. If any lose electrical wire touches the back, it should connect to ground. There is an alternative, plastic patch panels.
Hi Guys I am an open registered cabler in Australia. Important to never twist or pull on the cable more that 4 KG force. Never bend a TP cable more than 10 degrees because it will change the impedance of the cable and will create errors in the data packets sent over the network. Never cable ties as it will crush the TPs and change the impedance of the cable. There are regulations in you country about structured cabling rules and cabling standards look them up before doing any work or you could be breaking the law or voiding your home insurance. Use the right tools for the job there is a draw string in the cable for removing the outer sheath not a Stanley knife. Use a trained professional for your own safety. But this job looks nice but it would not pass Fluke DSX CableAnalyzer or Australian standards and would need to be redone if done here. Thats why trained professional only want to pull cable once and you pros know what I mean :)
H LaWMaN H mate what a load of shit you’ve just said 😂😂😂 i terminate cat 6 panels everyday pretty much and I can tell you now my panels don’t fail when I use a cable stripper the string is pointless and before you say you don’t have a fluke I use fluke dsx testers
Thank you so much for your video, very clear explanation about how to do it. I'm ready to start doing my home installation. Thanks
That's crazy using a box cutter always use your Snips and your pull string
Worried about you razor blade saftey skills
Great video
Thanks for a great video. Best part was needing to put on your...ahhhhhh...young man glasses. Same boat here brotha 😉
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Dear Terry, you did good job, every person have his own technique. bottom line fluke should pass it
It can be random. The key thing is to be sure every port # matches a location in the office. It is helpful to do an "as-built" floor plan with all the office locations numbered. Unless the switch you will be patching to has dedicated ports for a Virtual LAN set up, any port can patched into any switch port.
Good vid. Very helpful. Well done Terry.
Mark cables always and than put them in to the patch panel, my rule
Good job
Love the black background.....but why is your patch panel grounded if you're not using shielded cable........
ITT student.... thanks, excellent tutorial
I know this was a tutorial, definitely beautiful structuring, but shouldn't you have maintained the twist as close as possible prior to termination? We are always demanded by construction specs to keep twist right at termination at the patch.
Thanks for guide us
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Very Nice
Thanks for the good work
In my opinion, the amount of cables grouped does not seem appropriate. You should separate into groups of between 15 and 20, take them apart to improve the insertion (IL) of them and in addition to avoid electromagnetic induction, this is important if the network should then be Certified. About CAT6A no more than 10 cables this is due to the frequency that handles the cable.
On the other hand I agree on the use of the corresponding tools and materials (cable ties and shear not indicated for such operation) this will make our installation is standardized, avoiding damage to the network materials and during the process to avoid accidents by not use the corresponding tools.
What about service loops?
Very nice job!
Without labeling, your guys are going to do alot of walking from room to room to tone those cables out. Unless it's a tie panel to other floor patch panel.
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nice work
Very imformative thanks for the video im trying to learning 😊
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thanks for the video, I'm studying to get into networking and I'm having trouble grasping why a patch panel is even necessary.....If a room has network wall outlets available, then you should just be able to move to the new port.....the only thing I can think of is that the devices need to stay connected to the same port on the switch in order to avoid IP conflicts.....but any feedback on this would be helpful.
I'm sure you figured it out but modular plugs have a tendency to fail so using a patch panel between the switch and the end user termination provides a fairly cost effective method to reduce service calls. Also patch panels make servicing and making changes to a network a breeze.
Man I wish I got load bars to work with.
I’m trying a non-load bar solution with straight on termination for a bit to see if I can get it to meet my standards. Who knows, there’s a thousands ways to skin a cat.
I'm not sure if anyone else noticed this, but you almost killed yourself putting your glasses on. 3:10
Great video though lol
Very nice. Thanks.
Good thanks
very good
Keep the twists going as close to the termination point as possible.
Thanks, nice video!
Super boulot
Nice punch down and cable management. Keep up the great work!
3:11 got nervous when he brought that utility knife up to his neck.
U need to folow the numbers in cable to have a pair strait in the oder end man. I guess u have cable 1 and 23 for exemple in the oder place.. always numbers and respect the order of the numbers
there is some order to put these cables on the panel, or can hold some input?
interesting technology
thanx for the tutorial......
Nice Terry, tkiu.
Buen video informativo
Ok I have just whatched the video but what I am confused about is where does the 2nd lot of cables go when I compare the others already done ?
they go from the patch panel to the outlets you want to use them for I.E Ethernet ports,mainly for data with cat,5 wiring
we are not allowed to use tie wraps ..only velcro in OZ
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how do you relate these cables to switch ports. or is it just random?
I'm curious that none of the cables seem to have any kind of identification or labeling on them so how do you know that you're landing the right cable on the right patch point? It looks as though it's completely random, based on where they lie in the bundle.
Doug F don't need to label them, you identify them and label the jack at the end of the install.
@@jasonlee3247 so you are saying that port#1 will be for example unit209 and port#2will be unit201. By your logic and not labeling before hand all the ports will be random and not sequencial. Will be nightmare trying to troubleshoot that
Ive always been told NEVER use cable ties! Always use velcro Strips to support cables
Depends.
Gosto muito deste curco, gostaria aprender.
good and thanks
"you take the one on the insde always" .... dident you number your cabels arent the customer find it strange if his telecommunications outlet 1 2 3 4 5 is located at port 2 6 8 9 or and you dont unspinn the wire . the twist in the twistet pair is there to reduce crosstalk you are going to get a lot of NEXT and FEXT errors.
There's no reason to number your cables at all, unless explicitly asked to have certain numbered ports in certain locations. It take far less time to run, terminate and then have one guy stick a toner in the wall jack and have another guy at the patch panel with a walkie-talkie tell him what port he just lit up.Label the jack and call it a day.
Bret DaCosta The idea of structured cabling is to have structure. If you're in IT and you're looking for outlet number 123. But 123 is next to numbers 078 and 021 then it's gonna be hard to find an outlet.
When you look at a floor plan the outlets should follow some structure; if you terminate with no order of cables then you're just gonna have a random mess.
Thomas Harman14 this video is clearly proving my point, I see no mess here albeit it's not a union quality job but it's neat.
Unless you have a requirement i.e ports on a specific VLAN that will not cross multiple switches and you know what your rack and patch panels are going to look like before the space is built which is pretty much never the case in the SMB market I find.. the run, terminate and label last is far more efficient.
There is a reason why cable mappers were made.
Bret DaCosta I suppose it's just the way we're taught here in UK. The company I work for here has the contracts for all the large banks so everything we do has to be very exact and precise.
PS I'd never heard of a cable mapper until you just said haha looked it up, great invention
U right that guy must be fool
What You think, who we are?
Thanks
Just saw you comments. You sound like many techs I have met that seem to look at things like the glass is half full and feel that sounding off like everyone else's work is less than acceptable, wrong etc. Spreading sour grapes does not elevate you sir. I am far from perfect. Thanks for pointing out your opinion about everything. This video was only posted as a guide for my son who needed a reminder look at terminations as he is learning on his own now.
nice
Particularly please reference BICSI, Information Technology Systems, Installation Methods Manual, most recent edition, for correctly installing horizontal and vertical cabling systems.
No.
You should never use a stanley / utility knife to pair a cable. If you have to,never have your thumb facing the naked blade, always cut away from your body. Oh and never put you glasses on with an extended sharp blade in your hand.
very nice good job
wire tire not best to use ! can pinch wire and can not ad any new cables Velcro best to use
I want a job in IT.
bad cables harnessing
Ele escolhe o cabo à toa não o têm numeração nos cabos, e isso mostra k nao sabe o k faz. Em redes estruturadas é super importante marcar os cabos para k na outra extremidade saia certo. Imagina do outeo lado desses cabos tens pontos duplos? Como ele vai fzr? Vai meter os cabos à toa? Têm k meter is numeros seguidos. Tipo pontos de rede : 01 A 02 ai a etiketa têm k bater certo no nr do painel. Esse cara ai não sabe o k faz...
Great dressing job, but NEVER follow his instructions to strip the wire. Commercial strippers are cheap and do not cut the insulation on the inner wires.
Why didn't you use Velcro straps instead of the cable ties. Cable ties are a bitch to work with when you have to add cables later!
Cut them with your Klein snips and put new ones in. They should be snug, but not so snug that you can't move the individual cables with a modicum of pulling. If too tight, then you do indeed have a bitch in heat.
Merci and Thanks
Cable look terrible , used valco not tie rob
velcro plz !!!!
just iam new sir
Never strip cable with a razor knife, never ever untwist the cable before landing it, where did you get your BICSI Certs ? Real techs use scissors, I think its a nice thing you did with the video but you are showing bad practices in your technique its not by the book or the way manufactures teach it....
circuto buk
Thought the same thing when i saw that box cutter.
scissor your ass. What the f*ck are you talking about manufactures teaches f*cking scissors to strip cables? Ever heard of Cable stripper? Even my cat5e crimper has a very accurate striper so precise you wont have to problem about cutting the inside cables. STFU man. Lmao
I personally use IDEAL Data T Cutter with a semi dull edge (dull because I use them so much). I agree cable scissors suck and you'll definitely end up nicking a pair. Plus I'm left handed and can't use those scissors without pinching my palm. Strippers are nice but then you would have to keep switching between tools
+HeavyMecha Your boss makes you guys use strippers because he has incompetent people on his payroll. If you cannot consistently score the jacket of a cable with your snips without ever nicking any of the pairs, you haven't been in this line of work long enough to bear the responsibility of terminating anything. And Dan was 100% right, this guy is conveying terrible messages with his practices. Aside from lacking proper tools to complete the job, he now has to go tone every cable on the field side to ID the port position on the patch panel. GTFOH guy
zip ties on cat cable SMH
Complete amateur.... That knife ?
It's not how I would have done it personally. Go to twitter @PaulDoyleComms to see some really nice install pics.
We always aim for the highest standards.
Монтажнику руки оторвать и сказать, что так и было. Так делать нельзя.
,Hindi ma
untwisting the pairs. you have no idea how to terminate. like to see this fluke tested
This is the kinda boring work as a System admin I hate doing. I would always contract this out.
This looks horrible. You wouldn't last an 8 hr shift at my company. My supervisor would whip you with those tie-wraps as you were being escorted off the jobsite. TH-cam needs to do a better job reviewing videos before putting them up on their website...
Terrible.... simply terrible.
This looks so ugly
Whats the Ugly Part, , He did a Good job, you must NOT be in the Field to much to recognized good work, It's A lot of work, Not to mention Uniformity and Craftsmanship is hard to find now day's.
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With all Due respect that looks terrible...
i would be ashamed to present a panel like that...
sorry
With all due respect, your logo looks like one of those tattoos you get in a Cracker Jack box.
Hi Dean,
Show me your video now.
That`s why you ashamed because you cannot present a panel like that Dean. A BIG THANK YOU TO TERRY for showing us little guys how to do it.
Just show how much you love your son. He should be proud having a dad like that knowing that he could get bad comments but still doing it for his son.
Thanks again Terry.
Unlike these stupid arrogant beings.
No , It just looks badly installed
+Dean King how rude. No need for this type of poor behavior. If you have some advice then give it. Otherwise, your rude comments add nothing to this conversation.