Cabling Basics - Patching in a small business or home rack

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  • This video covers the basics of patching in a 24 or 48 port panel in a small business or possibly a large home rack. I discuss some ways to do a better job and I show several examples where it all went wrong. Larger racks will be covered in a future video. Your examples are always appreciated!
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  • @CherryCoke-qi1kz
    @CherryCoke-qi1kz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Great video. I've been in the business over 25 years and still enjoy seeing a well designed IT rack. It's a thing of beauty.

    • @stephenflanagan962
      @stephenflanagan962 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't know any man that doesn't find a nice rack to be beautiful..
      Unless he's a male on male plumber ..

  • @pharpester
    @pharpester หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I really commend you for going through the paces, physically showing what each option might look like. I recently purchased the neat patch for my home network build with 2 ft patch panels. I appreciate your influence on my decision to go this way. Mahalo!

  • @DanielTekmyster
    @DanielTekmyster 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I like to patch 24 ports from above and below each switch with 6in cables. Very clean, every port activated, and no reason to make a mess in the rack!

  • @Chris_In_Texas
    @Chris_In_Texas หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Signamax and or ICC offer 48 port 1U keystone patch panels. I really like them and have used them a number of times, as you can use 6" cables the entire way with 48 port switch. Keep up the good work! 🤠👍 Here is the part number for the Signamax: 48U-HDMMP-1R I have used many of them.

  • @Nick_oDev
    @Nick_oDev 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'm watching every video of this channel! Really good! Very detailed and explained

  • @kinto92
    @kinto92 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    This channel is one of the best resources for home lab-ers!
    I appreciate the way you presented this. You had the patience on showing us the different setups and telling the pros and cons on those setups.
    P.S. You look like HBK (Shawn Michaels) from WWE. 🙂

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks! Slight difference in physique between us.

  • @jimsvideos7201
    @jimsvideos7201 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    From my naīve perspective using 4u to hold 2u of devices is inelegant, but I understand your logic and appreciate your taking the time to share it.

    • @anyfoolknowthat
      @anyfoolknowthat 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      2 24 port panels vs 1 48 port panel, same # of U’s

  • @lifefromscratch2818
    @lifefromscratch2818 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    You know what looks best to me? The first version. Because it's maintenanceable. Those longer cables tangled up and shoved into a box is going to make things much worse to change and maintenance later, even if you've managed to cover all of it up behind a panel.

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I try to keep them rolled nicely behind there, but that's a point worth considering for anyone that wants to build out their stuff. The first version is simplest to work with on an open frame.

  • @qbaqban
    @qbaqban หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I watched this video just in time! I was going to buy a 48 port patch panel for my upcoming 48 port switch, but now I'm buying two 24 port patch panels plus 48 6" cables. Thanks!

  • @JJFlores197
    @JJFlores197 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    1:50 resonates with me a lot. I'm an IT tech at a K12 school district. Some of our network cabinets are horrendous. A lot of if it comes down to tech laziness and lack of time. 4 years ago I spent many hours during the summer cleaning out and organizing nearly 10 cabinets across 2 school sites. That was 4 years ago and I haven't had the time to do the same at my other sites. A lot of the time when we work on a cabinet, we just patch/unpatch cables quickly but don't spend the time to tidy it up. We're just too busy doing other tasks. Even when we plan during a break to clean up stuff, we get random projects thrown at us, but that's a different issue. This summer we have an all hands on deck classroom technology refresh project coming up so I doubt we will be able to clean up our cabinets.

  • @techreviewsau
    @techreviewsau 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for your fantastic video! I recommended the last method you showed be done at our company where I work last year, but our (stupid) ICT Consultant couldn't see why it made sense - even after explaining it more than 3 times to him. He couldn't even think ahead that it would cost us MORE money to buy longer cables and cable management rails with covers - when short 0.15m cables could be used instead. Thankfully, I won out in the end (a little bit) with 3 of our sites able to be done like you showed in your last example. Our Cabling Contractor that we brought in had never seen that done before, but it didn't take him too long to be won over after he saw how I arranged it. Keystone Jacks makes it so easy to change the arrangement also if you end up upgrading from a 24 Port Switch to a 48 Port Switch. I never saw the sense in braiding cables or tucking them away - hiding them behind a panel that just takes up extra space... especially when you may have to find a faulty or damaged cable and then unravel everything just to remove it! Thanks again for your video!!!

  • @jjones503
    @jjones503 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I'm going to start a cable patching company. I'm going to call it, The Speghetti Factory.

  • @GoreGamer
    @GoreGamer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This is badass, we at our radio station is about to redo our entire Office and Livewire network. its going to get crazy!

    • @emeukal7683
      @emeukal7683 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Friendly advice: if "we" doenst habe equipment and experience let somebody do the cables and only patch😂 thos cable tester with docu are a must

  • @Wignu
    @Wignu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Have just about finished cabling home while doing renovations (managed to sneak in a little 'server room' 🙂) so you've given me some great ideas for the cabling itself, the rack and how to patch it properly, fantastic channel.

  • @pawpaw7646
    @pawpaw7646 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thanks, well done!! Excellent instruction and production quality. I wish this video had been available when installing my small network rack last year. I ended up using your exact method (24-port panel, 48-port switch, 24-port panel with short patch cables, then UDM SE manager/router), but it took a long time to experiment and get there. 😀 In contrast to a business installation, home network racks are more space-constrained. My 4U rack has no space for cable manager units, so immediately-adjacent arrangement of patch panels and switches is needed.

  • @neggleston
    @neggleston 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video. Gave me lots of ideas.

  • @alisonferry5989
    @alisonferry5989 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks very much for a well explained video. I’ve just started in IT and this makes so much sense. I’m going to be able to look more critically at the spaghetti in some racks now. Thanks again

  • @StaK_1980
    @StaK_1980 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Really like that you emphasise that this is your taste!
    But honestly I'd go with your Modus Operandi as it basically served you well in the past years and is also tempered by the experiences you had.

  • @JabbaDuhNutt
    @JabbaDuhNutt 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My favorate are 48 Port 1U patch panels.

  • @jamieosh70
    @jamieosh70 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is the video I’d been looking for and never found. Thank you!

  • @fourhymns-worship
    @fourhymns-worship 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fantastic video. So helpful. Thank you.

  • @PhilBaker1
    @PhilBaker1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love this. Very well presented.

  • @wyohman00
    @wyohman00 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I would absolutely avoid booted patch cables on these kind of installations. The plastic tends to become less pliable and given the small amount of space, makes removing the patch cables very difficult. I only used bootable cables when running from a wall drop to a device.

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm not sure what they call the ones with the little bit on them that protects the RJ-45 tab, but I tend to use those. In this vid only the 6 inch version had a boot. I hate them.

    • @mike.walker
      @mike.walker 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@tciproductions "snagless" versus "booted"

    • @stephenflanagan962
      @stephenflanagan962 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What you meaning here what's the difference I'm new to tech networking

    • @wyohman00
      @wyohman00 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@stephenflanagan962 You can buy patch cables with boots on the end that protect the clip from snagging. When use as patch cables to a switch, the heat from the switch tends to cause the plastic boot to become less pliable and harder to remove when necessary. I recommend searching for "patch cables with boots" and "bootless patch cables" for more info.

  • @DanielTekmyster
    @DanielTekmyster 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Your videos are perfect for use as training videos for my team!

  • @Subzero_2290
    @Subzero_2290 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Great explanation and details on the various ways to cable! Really good video for beginners.

  • @pharpester
    @pharpester 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    A very sound demonstration for rack building theory. Thank you.

  • @DenverZamora
    @DenverZamora หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

  • @emeukal7683
    @emeukal7683 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I wish that i saw this earlier! Totally agree, doing it very much the same but i struggled a while to get to it. I mean not only this but more importantly the bigger rack vida. Maybe ill take a job to cable again in the future if a customer cant get the electrician to do it but won't reach ur levels ever. Great job, a tech guy.

  • @DiscountLowVoltage
    @DiscountLowVoltage 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Final product looks so good 😍

  •  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Your channel should be called Rack-sthetic or The Rack Whisperer or something that addresses chaos -> beauty, calm, logic, order. Mental health for sysadmins through rack order. love it.

  • @misku_
    @misku_ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video, thank you!

  • @esmail88
    @esmail88 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    thanks , I love your ideas .

  • @nitinkayyath6117
    @nitinkayyath6117 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    loved ur content very informatic.

  • @toshimon6276
    @toshimon6276 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Being in IT for over 30 years and having to clean up on other's crap work, seeing those photos of typical racks gives me PTSD.

  • @bentheguru4986
    @bentheguru4986 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Not bad at all. Been doing this for over 25 years, you nail all the basics here. I persoanlly like the use of brush panels over boxes but they both work. As for switching, I try to aim for a switch a PoE switch port for every cable port, patch it all the first time and admin down ports not needed until they are.

    • @anyfoolknowthat
      @anyfoolknowthat 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      my # of patch ports usually exceeds my # of switch ports by 2 to 1, can’t do that

    • @bentheguru4986
      @bentheguru4986 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@anyfoolknowthat I used to think like that a while back, changed I did....

  • @ICgasm
    @ICgasm 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    When I install a 48port switch, I start with a 24 port patch panel, then plug all the odds into the 24 port patch panel and install a 48 port patch panel and patch all the evens to the first 24 ports on that. Then I can add switch and another patch panel.

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's not a bad idea, and you could do a final 24 port on the bottom to handle the last row. I will try and include a version of that when I do another vid.

    • @jeffbaebel8060
      @jeffbaebel8060 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That’s the first thing I would of changed. That’s how I do it, much cleaner look.

  • @nikolaybaranov2213
    @nikolaybaranov2213 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    thanks for the ideas!

  • @JasonsLabVideos
    @JasonsLabVideos 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good video !

  • @MrFordy90
    @MrFordy90 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I affectionately refer to the racks as ‘hot fire spaghetti mess’ 😂
    I prefer to find patch panel densities that match the location of the ports on the switches (or get modular patch panels), to avoid the random cable loop lengths. In addition I usually split the upper and lower ports on the switches with an upper and lower patch panel respectively, for that extra clean look!

  • @rajeshparab9200
    @rajeshparab9200 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you. for this great video, i will use your tips in building my home lab, love from India !!!

  • @shaibannatha795
    @shaibannatha795 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I just love your work. Neat and clean. And doing it the right way.

  • @jortsaldenproductions
    @jortsaldenproductions 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Waw. That software is amazing! I subbed

  • @houcineamaidi499
    @houcineamaidi499 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    thanks you for that important lesson

  • @simonread4263
    @simonread4263 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video, subscribed to your channel based on this alone. I came across the very same problem the other day, an existing Krone 48-Port Panel and a 48-Port Switch which didn't align with 6" cables, in the end I had to mix 6" and 12" as I didn't have a cable manager, really like the look of those neat-patch products. Like you I prefer using Keystone on new installations, but they are not very common in the UK, lots of contractors still prefer Krone, but that is probably based on price rather than on flexibility of use, and aesthetics. Straight up and down patching looks great when possible, hence why I like the Ubiquity Enterprise 24-Port Switch as the ports align with a 24-Port Keystone, but they are expensive.

  • @norbharrison6371
    @norbharrison6371 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi Derek,
    there are some 24 port switches with two rows and the ports on the right side of the switch. I would be interested to see how you would patch those nicely to 24 port patch panel with just one row.

  • @michaeltdunphy3671
    @michaeltdunphy3671 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If I'm doing a multiple 48 port switches. I start with a 24 port at the top, then 48 port switch. Then a 48 port panel, then a 48 port switch etc etc

  • @AcvaristulLenes
    @AcvaristulLenes 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is golden.

  • @matthewross7295
    @matthewross7295 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Aha! You ended up where I am!. 1 24-port Keystone Patch panel above and below my 48 port switches! AND the short 6" cables. This made my day.
    I also use the TOP switch's TOP 24-port keystone panel for "odds and ends" connectivity. Connecting to other switches, odd equipment tied to the rack, different cabling (Coax, for example) etc.

  • @attainconsult
    @attainconsult 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ah yes I took inspiration from your prev videos and started using similar spacing but used 1U brush panels to twist the cables into, note we have a more mixed environments medical and large entertainment venues where we have to physically separate different networks and use diff colour cable to denote

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've been meaning to include the brush panels in a project soon, they don't look half bad.

  • @Kabodanki
    @Kabodanki 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You look like someone that is really cool to be around ;)

  • @myc0p
    @myc0p 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for showing the use case with NeatPatch. It might have looked better with 2ft cables they provide.

  • @WillEliasRosalesRuiz
    @WillEliasRosalesRuiz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dios les bendiga equipo de TCI. Muchas gracias por este video, muy interesante y la explicación muy entendible, aunque no entiendo al 100% el idioma ingles pero si un 25% yo comprendí muy bien lo esencial. Saludos desde Honduras.

  • @D-jam-tt2mm
    @D-jam-tt2mm 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I try my best to use 24 port switch with 24 port panel.

  • @JasonBelliveau
    @JasonBelliveau 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    so far i like the 2 patch panel look. 12 CAT 6 up and 12 down to the other one and just block off the ones im not using. so many ways and price of doing this with all the same outcome of directly connecting it. lol. i also don't have a big house so 24 ports is enough for me.

  • @Tr1pke
    @Tr1pke 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Instead of the gap between I would also install 2 patch panels with a 24p switch, same like you did with the 48p

  • @user-xe4mh5xp1g
    @user-xe4mh5xp1g 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They make vertical and horizontal management for a reason use it. You still have to add fiber patch cables and alot of other gear to any rack build.

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can you link me a vertical that would work for an 8U rack, I would be interested to see the products.

  • @187sniper
    @187sniper หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Question. My house was a new build and it was wired with CAT5e cables to every room. The cables are not terminated in the box in my closet. Do I need to do this or can I just terminate the cables and plug them straight into the router?

  • @kahongman
    @kahongman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great education for me. Just curious, what software do you use on time 0:49 for rack plan. Thank you for sharing.

  • @HueMongus101
    @HueMongus101 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What about 2 24-port keystone patch panels above and below the 24-port switch. Fill the panel with jacks to suite your needs/OCD and put blanks in the rest. That way you have available keystone ports for expansion AND you can easily swap out the 24-port switch without needing to take out or move the cable management device.

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's a possibility but when I learned, the old men would have hassled me for wasting a rack unit and time on a second panel, so I automatically go to one panel = 24 cables now. I think if you had say 12 above, shifted, and 12 below shifted, it would look pretty good. The numbering might get interesting :)

  • @V1N_574
    @V1N_574 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Me watching this for my 16 port switch at home 😂😂😂

  • @michaeldavid2320
    @michaeldavid2320 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You would think that the switch maker would provide patch panels that matched their layout. Or patch panel makers would make panels for the different switch brands to make things line up without the field guys having to juggle options and compromise.

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If I made either of those products, I would do that exact thing. Whoever get their act together will make that money for sure.

  • @itzahoax934
    @itzahoax934 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've got a stupid question, I'm not a network engineer or anything I just do this for my home stuff I mean I'm a 90s baby so I think we all have some sort of hands on with this now a days. But @11:41 You stated how annoying it can be to get in there and release the cables from the patch panel, what if you just installed the patch panel upside down so that the thumb trigger was on top and not on the bottom being constrained by the NEAT-PATCH? It would make it less burdensome to release those cables from the patch panel and not really mess up asthetically, ofc unless seeing the numbers upside down hurts you.

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I won't stop you, but if I did that on camera I would never hear the end of it :)

    • @itzahoax934
      @itzahoax934 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      hahaha understood@@tciproductions

  • @pharpester
    @pharpester 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I noticed in one of your videos regarding the simple software you use for layouts. I took a screen shot and noticed it mentioned a 12U swing out rack. I was wondering g if you had a preference for brand. I found one on Amazon, I am trying to figure out my home network, and where my network home-run is, it would really benefit from a swing out design. Thanks!

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My local supplier sells these, and for open frames it's not bad, few pieces, easy to level, and so on. www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/422399-REG/Middle_Atlantic_SFR_12_18_Steel_Swing_Rack_Frame.html
      Which one are you looking at?

  • @palomino11
    @palomino11 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How far out does the Neat Patch protrude from the front rails? Looks very tidy. Whats your best practice if you can't fit in a cable management unit and have to feed from the side? Also, how much time do you set aside for cable managing a 48 port setup as demonstrated?

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I would say the neat patch stands off about 3 inches and 1/8th from the rack, so in a closing rack with a door, some adjustments of the rails may be needed. If you have to feed from the side there's not a lot of good options, I would go longer patch cords, push them into a sort of "U" shape and then velcro them tight, and that would work. Something like this where I'm just patching and installing a switch is only about 10-15 minutes.

  • @DavidM2002
    @DavidM2002 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Do you ever find value in colour coding with your cables ? I have some work to do on my home network and it's going to look just like your final example. I have some POE cameras and 3 NAS. I normally use different coloured cables for different uses.

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I do that pretty often, however I try to keep it fairly limited, like the wall plates being one color, and the wifi being another, and then maybe the IP cameras being a third, but I stop there so the panel and wires don't look like a rainbow mess. Some places I have been change color for phones and printers and I don't think it looks so good personally.

  • @6YJI9
    @6YJI9 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    At 11:20, have you tried using a flat head screwdriver and sliding it between the fingers to press the boot allowing you to easily just slide the cable out of the patch panel? I don't have any of those fancy cable management things for my homelab yet, but I've always found it remarkably less painful to use a flat head either normal size or the smaller ones (#1 I think?), especially when needing to disconnect cables from a switch and/or some servers.
    Otherwise, I appreciated your content sir!

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Could totally do that, and I have had no choice in several spots because it was too little clearance. I have had people slip the driver and scratch up the panel though so I don't really tell anyone to do that when it's my own equipment :)

  • @MattScoville
    @MattScoville 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Question: when you are complaining about the cable manager and making it difficult to hit the boot of the cable to remove them. Is there a valid reason to not just flip the orientation of the patch panel so the boot is on the top?

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's not the worst idea I've had pitched. The numbers would be upside, at least on a pre-printed panel, but for ones where you insert the labels yourself this could work. It would still be tough on the switch side, which a lot of people I work with complain about.

  • @mason8714
    @mason8714 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    great advice - i fit comms cabs (racks) for my day job. Can i ask as i always draw my layouts before hand. what software did you say you made and are you able to share it for designing the layout of the rack? thanks - you have a new subscriber :)

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Try this one its free, no sign up, just draw: online.visual-paradigm.com/app/diagrams/#diagram:proj=0&type=RackDiagram&width=11&height=8.5&unit=inch

  • @greedygringoprospecting6941
    @greedygringoprospecting6941 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    it doesnt need to look neat it needs to work. and get the work done in a timely fashion. tested. and ready for the customers application.

  • @GSM2C
    @GSM2C 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love the videos, they are just glorious! Question, do you have a Unifi/Ubiquiti Affiliated Code that benefits you? I'm overhauling quite a bit at my employer's racks and wanted to say thank you if possible.

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I really appreciate that gesture, but I don't have one, just my Amazon affiliate stuff. I will definitely look into it though, I had no idea they offered that. Thank you!

  • @Bushman4
    @Bushman4 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Coming from a company that loves to add things after the fact, does anyone make a hinged patch panel that swings out (or better, down/up) to patch a new connection to the back? Currently I have a hinged rack, and hence have all the patch panels at the top or bottom or both for easy access when the rack is hinged off the wall to facilitate new punch downs, but it really stinks to manage, requiring a person with tiny arms and a strong headlamp.

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't think I have seen that specifically, but many of the small racks we use - including in this vid, one side of the rack is hinged, so you'd loosen one set of rack screws and the panel could in theory swing out. In practice its just never been really doable. I use the keystone panels for that reason, I can click in new wires without much difficulty.

  • @Steamy_Dumpling
    @Steamy_Dumpling 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Interesting.. no idea why I want to make one

  • @Izaeah
    @Izaeah 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Would you mind posting your software for rack design in the description of the video? Can't seem to find it anywhere. Thank you

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Done, added it. It's this link: online.visual-paradigm.com/app/diagrams/#diagram:proj=0&type=RackDiagram&width=11&height=8.5&unit=inch

    • @Izaeah
      @Izaeah 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @tciproductions Thank you. Great video! I don't even know what this stuff does, but your editing style is great. Have a great day.

  • @llDeFaLtll
    @llDeFaLtll 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Would love to get my hand on that sofware

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My personal app is old and crappy, try this one its free, no sign up, just draw: online.visual-paradigm.com/app/diagrams/#diagram:proj=0&type=RackDiagram&width=11&height=8.5&unit=inch

    • @michaelmauer1385
      @michaelmauer1385 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for this ! @@tciproductions

  • @Saturn2888
    @Saturn2888 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'm looking at my rack, and it's pretty gnarly, but all my patch cables are thin 1' ones, so not that bad. Because some switches aren't 100% 2.5Gb or not 100% PoE++ or using a combination of SFP and SFP+ ports. I have issues where I have 2 drops or more per room, and I one gets plugged into one switch and the other into another switch.
    How would you recommend organizing that mess? I'm not too keen on putting cable organizers everywhere either, but if I had them, they'd have to be 1U because I only have 4 slots of open space at the moment and 3 switches with 28 cables coming in (this is at my house).

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Without seeing it I couldn't be sure, but at a guess I might re-arrange the wires on the panels so that the ports that need POE or 2.5gb are nearer to the switchports that support them, and then I would use the same short patch cables. If you can't change the panel layout, then a 1U cable manager is really all you have to fall back on. It sounds like you might have Ubiquiti switches and there may be other models or brands that support full PoE or full 2.5gb on all ports that would simplify the patching as well possibly.

    • @Saturn2888
      @Saturn2888 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@tciproductions you're correct! UniFi. I never considered moving the keystones on the patch panel. Is that a normal thing? I thought I wasn't supposed to touch those? Or is it okay if it improves the wiring?
      The way I had it, both jacks to each drop were put next to each other in the patch panel. But if I can put different drops to the same room and location on different patch panels, that changes things!
      The biggest issue is trying to remove keystones without breaking them or the plastic in the patch panel.

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      There's no reason to put them together, just keep them labelled so you can find them at either end if you need to for maintenance. Careful not to break anything (or stab your finger :).

    • @Saturn2888
      @Saturn2888 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@tciproductions Awesome advice! I can finally clean up my rack when I move into a new house!
      Glad I haven't stuck labels to my patch panels since moving keystones would be a problem.
      The way I've done it so far is assigning the labels to the ports in the UniFi controller. It also passes the wife-approval-factor. I use different-colored keystones to know which is which at any given drop-point.
      Examples:
      - Living Room Left Cabinet - Blue
      - Office Stairs - White

  • @moeketsimatsepe6952
    @moeketsimatsepe6952 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What's the of Software you wrote to plan and design your Racks?

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mine's simple and homebrew, I've suggested this one for more meaningful designs: online.visual-paradigm.com/app/diagrams/#diagram:proj=0&type=RackDiagram&width=11&height=8.5&unit=inch

  • @lukasibanda6730
    @lukasibanda6730 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What's the name of the software you rae using to create and design the network racks?

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My personal app is old and crappy, try this one its free, no sign up, just draw: online.visual-paradigm.com/app/diagrams/#diagram:proj=0&type=RackDiagram&width=11&height=8.5&unit=inch

  • @cybr774
    @cybr774 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just for the giggles, what do you think of the patchbox?

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I really want to use some in a project just to test but the cost on those! I can't see recommending it to beginners due to price, but they look pretty cool. I'd also be curious what my fluke tester would do with the flat cords, crosstalk-wise.

    • @cybr774
      @cybr774 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tciproductions would be cool to see a video in the future

  • @ScottBrown82
    @ScottBrown82 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    what software are you referring to when doing these layouts.

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Give this one a try, its free, no sign up, just draw: online.visual-paradigm.com/app/diagrams/#diagram:proj=0&type=RackDiagram&width=11&height=8.5&unit=inch

  • @lordgandalf22
    @lordgandalf22 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i have to say that this doesnt go in the data center. most of the time you have two 24 patchbays and a 48 switch inbetween. if they see long cables they have to remove them. by default you use as short as a patch as possible. if you need longer runs from a server then its through runs in the sides of the rack up to the point where it goes into a switch. But then im an it admin that comes often into datacenters :D

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Datacenter and relay rack patching would be another story altogether, I got a vid in progress that I'm excited about sharing soon. Just in the context of a small office rack, I think we did okay here.

  • @freak3dot
    @freak3dot 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow. You have thought about this way too much.
    I guess this is fine if it is your business. But for a home rack, functionality and the extra U's trump aesthetics.

  • @waregle82
    @waregle82 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is the software available? For purchase?

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nah, my stuff is from Windows XP days, have you seen this free one: online.visual-paradigm.com/app/diagrams/#diagram:proj=0&type=RackDiagram&width=11&height=8.5&unit=inch

    • @waregle82
      @waregle82 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tciproductions I have now, thanks.

  • @adenwellsmith6908
    @adenwellsmith6908 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I don't get why switch makers don't make switches with port outputs on the same spacing as patch panels.

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would buy only those, they would conquer the marketplace for sure.

    • @anyfoolknowthat
      @anyfoolknowthat 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      amen

  • @jeffrbake
    @jeffrbake หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cable slack... lul...
    Like I am not spending hours making custom length patch cables to perfect my rack.

  • @aguyandhiscomputer
    @aguyandhiscomputer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    10:21 My rack looks great when my eyes are closed.

  • @vermiumsifell
    @vermiumsifell 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    First

  • @jedprice9122
    @jedprice9122 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pet peeve.
    They are not "wires". We don't pull "wire" we pull cable.
    Sez it right on the box, Cat 6 CABLE.
    The electric fence at yer local prison is made with wire. You wire your house for electricity. You might use a piece of wire with a hook on it to fish a door frame for a panic bar.
    Snot wire, it's cable

  • @jfbeam
    @jfbeam 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    30 years in networking and I do not approve of any of these methods. I can't stand the short little loops right over the top of the switch - you can't see a d...ed thing, and can't easily access any of the bails to remove a cable. Plus, when the day come that you need to replace a switch - and that day _will_ come - you have dozens of short cables to pull before the switch can be moved even an inch. In your example, the "neat-patch" doesn't make anything neat, or even promote being neat. All it does is hide the mess. (and I've seen some unimaginable messes behind those panels.) To a novice (or consultant) a 1:1 mapping may sound like a great idea, but it isn't. It's a wasteful plan, and for almost any business, a security risk. In any network, every patch port will not be used. Just like every power receptacle in your house isn't used. (and every one of them isn't on its own circuit.) We put ports (power, network, phone, cable) where we think we might someday want to put things. For example, in the last office I built, each office has (at least) two boxes with two ports each, to support different working configurations. (the conference room has two four port boxes on opposite ends of the room - being on the ground floor, I couldn't put one in the floor) In any network I've ever touched, the patch ports aren't exclusively ethernet.
    The patch-on-top-switch-on-bottom method works well and can be neat, clean, and easily managed ... _if you take the time to make it neat._ But that's the problem in all of networking: no one ever takes the time. Often because _everything_ has to be done yesterday, and we never have the time to do it over. At my last telco job, once or twice a year we would make the time to clean up all the wiring closets. (other than phone... that's a mess no one would even talk about.)
    (I've only done the "1:1 thing" once... a 24 port patch to the top of a data center rack. It was stupid. Every other rack got it's own switch(es). If you look far enough back in ethernet's past, there were line cards with 50 pair amp connectors. The Cisco FEX (fabric extender) is the modern take on that.)

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This vid is for a small rack, I'll put some big racks together and go over some of what I know, might be more to your liking. For what its worth, I don't advise anyone to do 1:1 port to switch, but I gave up years ago because just about every IT professional demands it. I patch in everything and use the switch features to down the ports not in use, I don't want those IT guys moving the patch cords around, they are usually the reason it ends up like in the photos I cut away to.

    • @jfbeam
      @jfbeam 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tciproductions _I don't advise anyone to do 1:1 port to switch_ And yet, you make a video educating people to do _exactly_ that. The amount of wrong in this could fill a book. That's not "structured wiring", it's self-supported, unbundled spaghetti. It just has less slack, and thus less cable drapping.