Renfe Avant high speed New Pendolino! What an AMAZING train!
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- Up this week, we take a look at Renfe's Avant regional high speed service and their amazing S-114 New Pendolinos between Granada and Seville!
Date of Travel: June 2021
Class of Travel: Turista (2nd Class)
Rolling Stock: S-114 New Pendolino
Cost of Ticket: €47.20 (£40.45, $55.70)
Origin: Granada, Spain
Destination: Sevilla-Santa Justa, Seville, Spain
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It never ceases to amaze me how much that part of Spain resembles the topography of the American southwest. You can see why so many Spaghetti Western movies were filmed there in the 60’s.
I was thinking the exact same thing!
Filmed in the Tabernas desert in Almería... but unbelievably, also (here) , in Madrid's Sierra de Guadarrama (weathered tors). Thanks Dylan, a 'quiet' video today.
@@djackmanson - Look at where the Spanish colonies were in the Western Hemisphere. They were all south of Georgia; the vast majority were in Central American and South America - it was not called "Latin America" for its health.
Spain never did have a single colony in all its history. We had viceroyalties and provinces, not colonies. They're completely different things. Plus America was Hispanized, not Latinized. The ancient Romans never set foot in the continent.
@@PGHammer21A Except for the Spanish missions in Kansas and Nebraska.
Sleek, absolutely, and somewhat aggressive. A beautiful train inside and out. Enjoyable video.
Glad you enjoyed Lynne 😁
Unsurprising. What folks don't realize is that the Pendolino was developed for the Italians via Brazil - and is the immediate ancestor of the entire Avelia line.
Enjoyed the ride, thanks for taking me along.
The elegant sleek engine reminded me of the Concorde jet, which passed out of use before I had a chance to fly on it. 😢 I thought the Spanish scenery was surprisingly appealing. I expected a flat, dry landscape, but the green agricultural fields and the various towns/cities were quite the opposite of bland. Overall you seem to have enjoyed a very pleasant trip! Thanks for taking us along. 💐
Thanks for the video, Dylan. Great journey ! 😊👍
The last time I visited Granada, the tram was being built, and had hit some funding issues so was on a sort of hiatus. The station was also closed for the upgrades. It is good to see it all finished and working well
It works really well 😁
Spain’s railways are one of the best in europe with modern comfortable and fast trains. They are an ideal way to visit the country
I agree!
Great video as always Dylan, thanks. We've travelled on the SBB version from Milan to Basel. Even in 1st class I seem to remember it felt a bit cramped compared to the spacious classic intercity SBB trains - I guess that's because of the sloping carriage sides in order to allow for the tilt. But the ride quality is very good.
Visited and stayed in the first and last cities.
Highly recommended.
Avoid the heat of the summer tourist season.
👍🏻🏴
Thank you very much to you, Dylan! As always, I enjoy watching your videos. Your explanations are clear, that's why and you show everything: the station, the landscapes, the train, that's it. It is very good. You can clearly see the arid and scorching landscapes of Spain. What a pity you did not film a Granada metro! Finally, it doesn't matter, your video is perfect. Thank you very much to you Dylan !!!
Thanks Louis!
Tq for the video....It motivates me to goes to Andalucia again and spent around 2-3 months there instead of just 10 days like my last trip there
As a spanish, i loved to hear the conversation of other people
A lovely route with beautiful landscape. The train looks really cool. Thanks for sharing 😊
Thank you for a great review ! I really like the S-114 Pendolino trains, and glad you highlighted their good seat comfort. So unlike the horrible seats in the U.K IET type trains ! Many thanks indeed.
As someone who spends a lot of time in Spain, I think that you do have to say that the RENFE high speed network is a very efficient operation and (usually) highly reliable.
Great news from a country not exactly known for eficient and reliable.
Spain has the largest high speed rail network in Europe!
@@moestrei We achieved this even being lazy, imagine if we tried seriously!
@@pedroalvarez2119 I think a little bit of EU money might have been involved too 😉
@@moestrei Typical comment from ignorant people…
I'm sure I'm going to receive 'hate' comments, but the Alsa non-stop coach ("bus" if you're American) takes just 25 minutes longer, at half the price: just 23.49€.
Depends on your view of train vs coach travel. For plenty of people the coach could be free and they would still get the train
Not as good an experience. Plus 25 mins could vary. Depends on traffic
Train is much more comfortable than a bus.
Nice video and train. Glad you are doing well, time for me to get caught up on your travels.
Dylan, you really did an awesome report representing what Avant trains are for Spain. Fantastic trains, fast, BUT VERY EXPENSIVE, for what you get. In the case of Granada to Sevilla before Avant was launched there was an MD (media Distancia) train that connected both cities in like 3h 15 min, and was price was half of what you paid. What it is true, is that Avant trains will bring more people to trains in which in some cases the bus was faster. Other than that, yes, there are several stations in Spain, like Puente Genil that have never made sense, that are being put, just for political reasons, like the Andalusian government promised a station there, and it is being put. Others are located in the middle of nowhere. For example, Segovia, ave station is in the middle of nowhere and you have to take a bus like 20-25 min to reach the city center, Tarragona the same, and many many more. Fantastic video, once again.
Yeah, amigo; my brother commuted to Segovia and its city centre connecting local bus took longer than the Ave HST takes to cover the 100 km from Madrid. Now they're building the Ave network to Madrid Airport, imo for a minority market of rich travellers.
@@iconicshrubbery in fact, the first ave was to Sevilla and Córdoba in 1992, instead of Barcelona, the second City of Spain
Thanks!
@@iconicshrubbery Airport trains are faster than buss to citycenter. Stocholm in Sweden is quite expensive about 30 Euros just about 8 min train to city. But other story is Helsinki, Finland. You need just local buss tram metro ticket to use it as tourist is under 10 euros to travel Helsinki city center th-cam.com/video/A_x7fy1wESk/w-d-xo.html
how convenient, I'll be taking the same train on the same journey at the end of October! Thanks for sharing! :D
Enjoy your trip!
I remember traveling to Sevilla with Renfes AVE (first) class and the food was so nice, so if you get a chance, try that!
Always well presented….
To me the front of the train looked like a dolphins beak. Long and sleek. I guess it’s very aerodynamic. It looks well designed and the inside lives up the outside.
The only problem I have is with the roll down blinds is it can be annoying if you are sitting with others who don’t want the blind down. This is why I prefer curtains
Looks great and appreciate the tip about fares. Pre-covid we were thinking of this trip and next will do it and train seems the best option.
amazing video onboard the platterpus trains
Good job Dylan, beautiful train!
I visited Granada back in the 80's The Alhambra Palace is well worth a look. I bet your camera would have melted if you did a tour of Cordoba in July😂😂How can a vending machine not be stocked during a pandemic sheer laziness I think. Those table seats I just love with large folding tables. You can tell how new the whole setup is those stations were so bright and clean.
The empty vending machine makes a lot of sense in the pandemic. As a high touch area, santization of it would be impossible after each use
@@CreativeEm True, then the ticket machines are in use and they are also high contact areas. This journey was in June 2021, other vids have shown vending machines working in 2020 at pandemic's height as well as restaurant cars in operation.
@@wombat1238marsupial All on board services were removed the very same day the government announced the State of Alarm as a consequence of the pandemic - this was in March 2020. So what you say is pretty much impossible.
Another Brilliant Travel Report Dylan! First, I must agree with you on the truly sleek looks and livery, of these S-114 New Penolinos, so smooth running. I commented further down the comments, on the subject of filming complaints, so read there. I was amazed at no vending machines working, which is a bit odd, as even the NHS has vending machines in their Hospitals, for Staff and Patients, so a NO BRAINER THERE! Rail Travel in Spain, was always for the more affluent, donkey's and traps were for the rest. That was a very long time ago, but in Latin Countries, these thoughts hang on sometimes. Hot steamy buses, are hardly what your Travel Reports are about, we are boi's and boi's love their trains and designed comforts. Being stuffed into hot sweaty stinky buses in far away places, you could go missing forever and anyway, buses are more like public washrooms and as about as friendly :(
Nice vedio . Thanks
Sevilla the sun of Europe.
Nice video re: the Renfe Savant S 114. I am planning a possible trip from the U. S. to Lisbon to Madrid then to Barcelona next year. Sad to still see people wearing masks. Overall, not bad prices. Menu service, Dylan? Hope you brought your own Spanish 🍺 lol Later ✌
enjoyed your latest adventure. Spain is very brown & dry. I was surprised. The train looks very modern & sleek. Why did you type your info instead of talking? I enjoy listening to you. When I have to read I can't focus on the journey. It's a shame the rail doesn't go in a straight line. That trip is all over the map. You are very well travelled & knowledgeable.
Brown and dry ? You apparently have not traveled in northern Spain. Check out the Basque region, the Pyrenees and the area in and around Navarre, Aragón and Catalonia.
All the "cornisa Cantabrica" is green like Irland; Galicia,Asturias,Cantabria y Pais vasco. That is te south
@@richard526 nope never been & not planning to. I like Dylan's videos.
Hi Dylan, back again. I could have sworn I saw you today on the new Battersea tube station that just opened. Hard to tell under a mask, but it sure did look like you. Then you disappeared into the crowd.
Very very nice video Dylan sir quickly upload more video
Great video Dylan loving the Renfe Avant and you’ve inspired me to travel on Spain’s Railway and we also caught a glimpse of your legs lol
Those are very special Yorkshire Legs, for Travel Reporting, didn't you know that?
One detail about what you mentioned in a caption... All Renfe services subject to public subvention, that are, suburban conmuter services, regional services, medium-distance services (regionals with less amount of stops) and Avant services (high-speed regional with limited stops) are fixed-price, independently you book your ticket 2 months in advance or you buy it inside the station minutes before the departure. The only available discounts for single tickets (but you can get them even some minutes before the train departure) are round-trip (20% discount on both trips, but only regionals, not in suburbans, and you must buy or book both trips at once in the same ticket), under-25 youth discount (20%, you must show your youth card to get access to this discount), and special discount for being part of a large family (20% to 50% depending on category, you have to show your large family card to get access to this discount). There are also discounts if you buy a personal multiple-trip card for a fixed trip (i.e. fixed origin/destination) that is valid for a period of time (e.g. 10 trips to spend in a 45-day term, 10 trips to spend in a week, or 30-to-50 trips to spend in a 60-day term).
However, in long-distance services, not subject to public subvention (e.g. Intercity, Alvia, AVE), you can get interesting discounts (up to 70%) if you book them in advance, depending on the dates and the occupation of the train at the moment of reservation
Sr. Franco, Spanish train nerd extraordinaire, gracias. (subvention is Subsidy, in English)
I think all trains on planet earth have some sort of gov subsidizing. Which is perfectly ok as it is in the interest of the whole nation to have a good train network with affordable fares.
@@iconicshrubbery I am really sorry if you find that my English may not be good enough, I will try to improve it. And I am grateful for having suggested me a (maybe) more common-use word for that meaning. However, the word 'subvention' is also valid. You can check it out in Cambridge dictionary if you do not trust on me. :)
@@moestrei Unfortunately, the fares in Avant services are not affordable at all even with government subsidies. From my point of view, 47.20 euros full-fare, or 37.75 euros per trip with 20% round-trip discount, is an absolute rip-off, taking into account that the distance between Granada and Seville is about 250 km. However, Renfe offers an alternative (not shown in this video) consisting of Avant service Granada - Antequera, a train change in Antequera, and then a medium-distance service from Antequera to Seville, at 29.40 euros full-fare, or 23.50 euros per trip with 20% round-trip discount, which is a much more reasonable fare, and only takes 26 min more than the trip shown in the video
@@miguelfranco9686 Muy triste.....para los ricos solo....como siempre....
When are u able to do a video where u start or end in Newcastle upon Tyne becuase I would love that
This is why Spain loves Pendolinos. Just like the UK likes the Avanti West Coast Class 390 Pendolino.
As always a very nice and informative video. Questian about 'toilets time', why do you always doublecheck de doorlock??
Would you like to be walked in on while in there? 😒
Very nice looking train, obviously styled after the Shinkansen. Interior looks nice, seats are ok for 2nd class. You are correct, the scenery is average, but I'd like to visit that castle. Wow, price is kind of steep, surprising as I've noticed that most of the trains in Europe are quite reasonable. Thanks for the great shot of that engine .
Glad you enjoyed!
Great as always Dylan 😉 although I did miss listening to your commentary instead of quickly reading it. 😞
hey Dylan how ya goin . looks like a nice train the sceenery is very flat but not too bad hope you enjoy ya trip cheers cobber
Thanks!
About the pricing; Avant is price fixed because it's subsided by national and/or regional goverments. It will be the same price if you book weeks in advance or if you buy your ticket prior to departure. The "commercial" trains (Ave, Alvia, Intercity and Trenhotel) (last one if it's restored) are the ones with better fares if booking in advance.
Sad to see one of the iberian gauge tilting pendolinos (Class 490) abandoned in Seviila sidings. They were very similar to CP's Alfa Pendular, but in 3 coach formation. They were used on routes where the tiliting was not necessary (Madrid - Valencia in iberian gauge; before the AVE and then in Mediterranian corridor). The poor manteinance and later cracking bogies were the reasons for retire the entire fleet of 10 trains.
Also, in high speed, the S-104, are also Pendolinos without tilting.
I was about to make the same comment.
To clarify, the 29.40€ fare mentioned is for a combo of AVANT and a regular MD train with a change at Antequera-Santa Ana.
Looks like the shinkansen in Japan.
Spain is nice
Good review. Why would a vending machine be out of action because of the pandemic? I don’t understand the connection. Surely it’s very low risk? 🤷♂️
Thanks! I agree!
Yes, I agree, a very upside-down view of the covid world. Perhaps the vending machines cause global warming perhaps? :(
Great video !!
Thanks!
Very nice train indeed, Dylan. Downunder, we are still in lockdown but I'm looking forward to experiencing the latest iteration of our V/Locity sets on the Melbourne-Albury service after testing is complete and I can travel freely again. I can only dream of experiencing something like the S-114 New Pendolino as COVID is preventing ordinary mortals like me from travelling overseas (Unlike our Pfizer protected Prime Minister - although I don't think he will be welcome in France anytime soon). Yes, the earth did move for me the other day, but no damage here - wouldn't like to have been near the building that lost a wall though. Enough for me this week as your next offering should be here in about 48 hours. Cheers from Michael.
Linlha esponlhola Dylans gostei boa viagem ai boa tarde e trem parece da china mesmo
Hi Dylan! What a great surprise to see a route featured that a friend and I intend to take in a couple of weeks. One question if you don’t mind; any advice on who to pre-purchase the tickets with on line? Thanks. Edward.
Love your videos! Question: Have you shared your go-to websites in regards to purchasing train tickets, including any methods or tips that one can use to find cheap train tickets around the UK/Europe?
I usually buy directly from the operator.
👍👍
Dylan
Usually in Spain
There are three classes
Turista (3rd)
Turista + (2nd)
Preferente (1st)
Nice trip, well reported. Thnks !!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
13:24 Announcements remind me of GWR's Electrostars
Yeah, I figured it was going to be hot. I noticed immediately that the sunshine there is nearly white, as opposed to our almost sleepy sunshine up here by the Canadian border. Thank you, Dylan. You're a great tour guide! 😊👍👍
Hi Dylan. On your way to the station, you walked between two walls. Was construction going on behind them?
Not sure but Spain is often upgrading their infrastructure which is good to see!
Sleek looking train with that long, tapered engine. The boxy Granada Station was quite unique looking in a pleasantly old-fashioned way. I don't understand why a vending machine should be out of service, pandemic or not; a cafe car I understand. I liked the dry, golden grass, rolling hills and agriculture of the Spanish countryside. Nice trip.
It probably has more to do with the fact that buying food means you are going to consume it inside the train - which in turn means no mask.
The vending machine is out of use as sanitizing it after each person has used it would be impossible
@@CreativeEm Surely people can use hand sanitiser? 🤔
@@FromtheWindowSeat Yet when you go to any tapas bar/restaurante etc, you are served by a waiter who touches your plate etc, can’t see the difference. More B/S
These are very similar to our ETR 610s over here in Italy and I like them a lot
Great looking trip. I am guessing that these trains only run on the standard gauge tracks.
Now even Spain has that design of a Pendolino! I thought Poland, Switzerland, Italy and China was enough.
114's look... yeah, is fantastic, the future is here... No food at all... huh?? Yep, the price is high then. It is quite a ride anyway. A cool reportage too.
Great trip, this S-114 looks nice. Controversial station? Why?
Low usage.
@@DylansTravelReports ahh I see.
Woo my city seville
I had taken the pendolino from Valencia to Barcelona recently. Was quite a smooth ride however the AC wasn’t cool enough and it was quite annoying since Spain gets quite hot in summer.
Hope you didn't meet " The Barbers of Seville". I'll show myself out!..... Thanks😵😉
Thanks for a great video, Dylan. Ignore all those who seemingly have nothing better to do than whine... so many of them around this week!
Thanks 😁
I wish That Avanti had ordered more Pendolinos instead of the 800 series which seem to be the most unpopular inter city trains in the UK.
Agreed but on second thoughts don’t worry, the UK Government’s Department of Transport would have found a way to screw them up!
It's about 50°C in Pakistan during Summer and about 47°C in October last I visited in 2015.
Train station looks like a greyhound station in the getto
Santa Justa used to be a stunning old-style Spanish station. Now, IMHO, it looks like any modern station. Pity they sacrificed some of that old character. Can you still travel non high-speed between Granada & Seville?
I'm not sure!
@@DylansTravelReports I've taken the non high speed train between Malaga & Seville. Lovely old stations, great scenery and, if you're on holiday so your trip isn't time critical, well worth doing.
I actually have a model of the Italian version of that Pendolino!
Nice!
They somewhat resemble the Japanese Shinkansen. It looks like Renfe has done their homework.
With response to my previous comment about Renfe, I was referring to the cleanliness of the train and the smoothness of the rails.
Never mind the train, I was looking out the window watching the rolling Spanish plains and mediaeval castles expecting Don Quixote to appear any minute.
Granada - Sevilla 248 kms and the train takes 2 Hours and a half 😞. Not very impressive for a brand new high speed train... and the rail seems to be electrified???
Because there is hella stops and does a detour to Córdoba
I though it was a new route for train simulator because of the thumbnail -_-
No commentary!
what no commnetary?
Interesting video. The train’s interior looks very clean and efficient but somehow characterless - it reminds me somewhat of an upscale intercity bus. The exterior is also a bit bland. But it does the job and for that period before getting in to Seville you can really sense the high speed.
Having recently travelled on Amtrak’s regional service in the North-East corridor it’s as if this is another form of transportation
Hi sir
For some reason I thought the train was ugly, inside and out! Must be having a bad day......I'm sure they are good to travel on though - as long as the Air Con's working!
I wouldn’t want to spend 2h35m in second class. To me this is not really a regional service.
I was so hoping for a voice over!!
How are you doing
I'm good thanks, you? 🙂
@@DylansTravelReports good thanks
I would like coverage of the destination stations that is comparable to that of the origin stations.
Back to sub texts i see how disappointing, now i won't be able to enjoy this train ride video as well, i enjoyed last week's video much more because instead of stopping the video the read the sub texts i could listen to what the video maker said and enjoy the view from the window, not everyone reads fast enough to keep up with sub texts as they go by at normal video speed
Don't worry, more are on the way.
do you ever get told by passengers not to film
Sometimes.
@@DylansTravelReports I bet they are really ugly and not photogenic at all. You never linger on anyone, as you are not filming the Humans, as we are interested in the Trains and their facilities, not silly Human egos, now are we Dylan :)
10:09 Witch
Abuela, no bruja.
@@moestrei Bruja, no abuela.
It seems a bit unusual to take the train for this trip, a bus fare would probably be under 10€
I would much rather ride the train that be crammed in a long distance coach. Comfort is far more important than saving money. otherwise why do the trip if its not going to be comfortable.
@@nickhiscock8948 Spanish intercity busses are very comfortable and have complementary wifi.
Just love to see one of Europe's poorer countries having show pieces like this train. ¡Viva España!
@Bob el Silencioso Oh, sorry....I was there 30 years ago...perhaps things have improved.a little since.
@Bob el Silencioso German / Australian. It was very poor. Huge unemployment rate. In Barcelona was a huge drug problem. Local friends there asked us to not go to certain districts. Again, it was a very long time ago and my personal experiences, maybe it was not typical. Visited perhaps 6 times and would like to see it again one day. Loved the country and the people, my wife is 1/2 Spanish 😃👍
Everywhere looks like ghost towns thanks to the pandemic, nice ride though
Video's final score: 8.9
Who cares how fast it go - to to move on
Which video did your girlfriend do?
I'm puzzled as to how "the pandemic" can be used as an excuse to stop the vending machine providing a service.
Because bar services aboard Renfe trains have been suspended due to the pandemic. Due to there not being contracts for catering and supplying edibles for on board services from external companies, vending machines are incidentially left without stock. Plus, masks are mandatory inside trains at all times and you can't eat through your mask.
@@El-Mengu We obviously have different outlooks on life. I always look for ways things can be done rather than reasons why they can't be done. (ie the difference between the private and the public sectors). Masks are mandatory on planes but passengers can remove them when eating/drinking.
@@El-Mengu LOL
@@Lakesider52 Man made masks, plus man made pandemic !!!!
10:48 ... 69? lol!!!
Sad state of affairs that Britain was saddled with the outdated Class 800/801/802 Hitachi rubbish when we could have had this classy and safe train. Alstom makes great trains. And how sad to see that US graffiti is everywhere spoiling the views.
Britain was saddled with Hitachi cos no other country wanted Hitachi built trains
That would be Spanish graffiti 😒
@@gazs4731 Japan accepts them, but no trains are made by any other country that are allowed to run on the Japanese networks. And it was the Tory government who forced them onto the TOCs.
Less expensive high speed trains and more normal price regular trains.
HS2, will be a disaster
Correct, costs too high, compared to time saving. The North of England needs more fast links from Coast To Coast, linking the important Cities!
De pendolino, res! Abans aquests trens (material, en llenguatge funcionarial renfe) eren a Catalunya! I feien el servei Barcelona -Lleida - Barcelona. Ara els han portat a Andalusia i ens han posat uns trens infumables....🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬