Hull Trains! The UK's SMALLEST Train Operator!
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- This week, we take a look at what the UK's smallest train operator, Hull Train' First Class has to offer!
Date of Travel: October 2020
Class of Travel: First Class
Rolling Stock: Class 802 "Paragon"
Cost of Ticket: £29.05 ($40, €33.90; including railcard discount of ⅓)
Origin: Hull Paragon Interchange, East Riding of Yorkshire, United Kingdom (England)
Destination: London King's Cross, United Kingdom (England)
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Hi Dylan you mentioned in your comments that Hull interchange is near to the prospect shopping centre but it’s saint Stephens shopping centre next to the interchange but that being said the video was very good as I’m a Hull boy born and bread
Yes, that's what I meant 😁 (I've pinned your comment so people realise I am aware of this.)
Poor sod, I’m from Barton 😂
@@DylansTravelReports Could you do a video of riding the far north line all the way to wick
Prospect is just across the road tho nesr sports direct/wings
@@marengtech313 this is Hull we’re talking about. The word bred was banned in 1977 due to the connotations with the shallow gene pool that was thought to originate in the Gypsyville part of the city. Thankfully since the bridge was opened in 1981, it meant the people of Hull Hessle could now travel further and make more genetically wise choices 😂
There's something so oddly nostalgic about the insides of these trains. It's like an alternative universe where First Great Western never rebranded...
Ik right!
First great western was the first train operator I ever went on and when I was really young I always went to my local station to train spot and for me the similarities to first great western are really nostalgic I wish it never rebranded
@@DylansTravelReports very nice
I like how you started adding little tidbits to each station about what the area is known for.
Agreed, this makes the vlog more informative.
I'm Canadian, and I love visiting over there. Our train service is almost non-existent. I remember one time, maybe in York, I asked an employee how to get to a certain platform to catch a certain train. He told me I'd better hurry, because the train was due any minute. So I ran to catch it, only to see it pulling out. I was so disappointed, and wondered how long I would have to wait, when a man told me "Don't worry. There'll be another one in seven minutes."
I've always been impressed with the rail and bus service over there.
Still love this format. There’s very few people left who do reviews without a voiceover and there’s something so pleasant and calming about hearing the surroundings
Yes that lighting is way way too bright! And the colours are enough to cause a seizure lol
Agreed.
May have been said already, but Hull Paragon is the station at which John Cleese gets on the wrong train near the start of "Clockwise", a rather underrated 1980s comedy film.
Always makes me laugh when fellow passengers find the need to share their conversations with the whole carriage, the poor woman's mother wouldn't let her in lol.
Another great video Dylan.
Keep safe and take care.
“Being a Wild Child” 😂😂😂😂
Northern folk are always very chatty and friendly, and have a warmth about them that so often seems lacking here in the South (where I come from). They'll happily strike up a conversation with a total stranger. But I must admit I find it rather irritating when one is travelling or trying to work on the train (perhaps that's to do with my 'Southern reserve'). Not as bad though as listening to one end of mobile phone conversations incessantly on a train journey. I wonder if Hull Trains still have a 'Quiet' carriage in standard class.
Yes, I was rather amused at the loudness of that conversation. I’m an expat now but always remember English trains as wonderfully quiet places.
I once travelled from St Pancras to Nottingham having to listen to a young lady shouting out to her friend on her mobile her experiences with several boyfriends. Why are we Brits so polite by not telling her to be quiet.
Hull is, in my opinion, a very pleasant and interesting place indeed. Well worthy of a visit.
Another train averaging around four passengers per car. You'll look back on these days with amazement when the trains are crowded again. The lights were bright but looked cheery with that wet, grey day outside.
The Wairarapa Line...100km/95mins from Wellington to Masterton runs mainly Mk2e carriages...lovely new blue moquette ( att.n Vicky) power points for every seat and lovely bright indirect ceiling lighting plus personal loghts....and an 8 km tunnel between regions
LNER operated 1 train a day to hull, this was the soul reason hull trains was formed because hull didn't get enough service and GNER (the LNER of the time) refused to up it, so Hull trains was formed
I'm glad you showed the Philip Larkin statue. He's one of my favorite poets.
I've travelled a few times this year between Grantham and Kings Cross and have always been impressed by Hull Trains which would be my preferred option over LNER. I found the train staff on Hull Trains really made an effort to be courteous and helpful and felt my custom was valued. This is not intended as any criticism of LNER but I rated Hull higher on my journies.
The Romney Hythe and Dymchurch Railway operates Britain's smallest trains. Might be worth a video some time.
Not sure the camera would hold still long enough. Love the RH&DR to bits, but the train carriages do rattle a lot due to lack of decent suspension. And they'd certainly be no toilet inspection!
Great video again, Dylan. Good to see my home city of Hull featured. Hull Trains suffered a lot with the pandemic hitting services. Hopefully it can thrive in the future. It's ideal to be able to get to London direct (a couple of early services a day start at the lovely market town of Beverley). Much better than having to take a Northern service to Doncaster then change to London there.
Great video as always Dylan. I do like the new livery and the interior . The bright light contrasts well with the blue seating. Just as well you didn't talk on this one as you would never have got a word in edgeways !!!
Personally I rather like the livery. Beats the LNER one in my opinion which is a little bit dull. I often try to catch a Paragon to Hull when commuting to and from there since a direct journey is nice.
The Hull Trains livery is nice indeed, much better than the Azuma livery, but the Hull Trains livery would look better with a yellow front, but still it looks nice
Sounds like noise-cancelling headphones were required, for the last part of the journey...
I really like the service on Hull trains, I can't wait to try their new trains as the old ones did seem to suffer from reliability. I'll miss that legroom though.
I find the livery quite ok, it's the hearts on the seat headrests that are tacky imho.
I must say it’s always a delight to travel with you as I am stuck in France because of the pandemic. Your videos remind me of the good old days when I visited the Uk by train. I love your comments. How did you get to travel so regularly? Thanks for sharing the fun
I'm able to travel so often as this is my job.
what a relaxing travel, in a beautiful train! Kudos for the fun facts you add to the video about the stations/towns ! :)
I do personally like the idea of HT’s livery, but at the same time I think Northern Rail did a better job at it quite a few years back on some of their Sprinters. Great review as always!
Been on these many times, good value, service and polite staff.
All Hull trains switch power at Doncaster
I never realised there were coat hooks until I started watching your vlogs 😂
A great TOC with excellent drivers and passenger hosts. Lets wish them every success now the old class 180's are gone and the brakes get taken off traveling. It would be nice to see them become a little bit bigger and open a Hull - Cornwall service since Cross Country dont want to know us. You need to say Hi to us instead of the signature wave in the bog mirror.
Very good! I appreciate the fact you comment by on screen titles rather than by voice over. Much better!
Great trip. It was nice to see Selby (I'm old enough to remember when the ECML passed through Selby instead of the new route to avoid the coal mining).
Well done for saying something interesting about Grantham without mentioning you know who.
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I was thinking, despite having changed trains there several times, "not for turning" is the only thing I know about Grantham haha
@@Wasserfeld. What! Have you not heard of Sir Isaac Newton? Shame on you.
@@johnward374 **googles his connection to Gratham** I had no idea he went to school there...
The seats on the Transport for Wales class 158's are very comfy considering its just standard class
This train looks almost identical to the "Javelin" trains from next door station St Pancras into Kent, except that they travel at 140mph on the track down to Ashford (share the line with the even faster Eurostar trains). These trains run 6 car units, often coupled into a 12 car service, they are 2nd class only and in the rush hour standing room only (used to be before COVID anyway!). These were introduced shortly before London 2012 Olympics and they were used to provide a 7 minute journey time shuttle service between St Pancras and Stratford Intl station next to the Olympic park.(not to be confused with the other Stratford station). These trains are also dual running, as at Ashford (or Ebbsfleet if leaving the HS1 track) the power switches from overhead to 3rd rail like the rest of the southern / southeastern rail service. These trains alse provide a loop service from St Pancras via Ashford past the Dartford bidge to Folkestone, along the seafront & Samphire Hoe to Dover, then on to Deal, Sandwich, Ramsgate, Broadstairs, Margate and Medway towns back to St Pancras without changing trains. Although I like the speed of the Javelin service the slower & cheaper trains into Charing Cross / Victoria have more confortable seats.
They're both Hitachi trains so it makes sense
Not quite the same. The 395s went into service in 2009 or 2010.
I agree about the livery, but I like the heart logo. Someday maybe I'll take a Hull train when I can visit the UK again.
Yes, you should 😁
6 days ago?
@@fedde7232 Patreonic?
Now you've done the voice-over version I hope you'll continue. Really enjoyed it and it means I can listen to your channel too if I'm working. Keep up the great content!
Great Britain, best part of Europe about trains! 😍😍😍😍
Bonus points for use of the words "grim" and "autumnal".
Nice to see Paragon station still looking fine. Love the old iron entry gates. And the roof is indeed splendid.
I lived in Hull for 13 years and although I moved away I still hold the place and its people in high regard... especially some of its cracking pubs!
such as hull cheese,earl de grey,ye old black boy,manchester arms,ye olde white harte,punch hotel.take care from east yorkshire John.
@@carlharris2808 Got to admit, it's a great city for a pub crawl
Great review as always Dylan, thanks. We've used Hull Trains a number of times in the past but have yet to try the new 'Paragon' trains. Reports I've seen on them seem rather mixed, so it was good to see a positive one. The lack of decent catering for both first and standard class passengers is, IMHO, a great shame, and what they and other companies in the UK offer is not good compared with so many rail companies in mainland Europe. I used to travel on business quite regularly from the South to destinations in England and Scotland in the 1980s and 1990s and you could get a really good meal onboard most long-distance services in dedicated restaurant cars available to all passengers.
Another great educational Video Dylan. Well done & thank you for all your efforts, especially during the Pandemic.
Thanks!
Everytime I travel to East Midlands, I sometimes take the LNER and Hull trains just for the new class 800s. The extra 10-20 minutes for the change at Grantham is worth it if I'm not in a rush.
The Livery is awesome. And so clean.
I know right!
Love the vid man! It's awesome like the rest of your videos!
That Northern 170476 used to be an SPT then First/Abellio Scotrail unit before being transferred down south a few years ago. Units from 170460 to 170478 excluding 170470 and I think 170471 have been transferred.
I’m gonna be honest, all Class 800-810 units all look exactly if not almost the same.
The 810 looks different but the others are meant to look the same. They're all built from the same bodyshells because they're the same family of trains. Also keeps maintenance costs down.
@@nateayi I’ve seen the artist’s impression of an 810, and it looks different.
@@DaveDVideoMaker it's because like a post above about the ' javelin train' they ' some ' of them, eg HT, TPE Easy Coast and soon EMT , all use the ' AT300 ' model, the rest are a slightly different larger length design .
The class 395's only difference is the door position , no sealed off areas so you get a blast of cold air in winter when the doors open , but it's been written that these units are to be cascaded further north , maybe Scotland or ' Northern ', along with it also stated with all the rail ' shake up ' many new fleets , may well get moved around . Worst hit will be ' GA ' where it replaced almost all of its stock now, that stock is destined to be cascaded , they may end up with different trains, Hitachi bi.modes etc.
But back to Hitachi , the AT300 is shorter than the LNER Azuma and original GNER 800, which I still think is the best livery .
However east Midlands train's are getting totally redisigned seats, to counter the regular complaints on all the other units .
Also LNER have interestingly in the latest rail publication, announced an order for 25 more 125mph ' intercity trains ' , by all accounts not yet designed.
But following issues with the Hitachi stock ( the cracks debacle ) plus the issues they had with ' interference with lineside kit .
They have yet to select a supplier .
But that HT 80X I honestly thought first class looked so cheap , that it was second class .
And the copying of the ' intercity ' idea of showing local sights and places on its rolling stock, looks awful on the Hitachi.
Still the images of the javelin based ' EMT ' , ' Aurora's ' look amazing . However they still cannot beat a HST !.
Final thing, I really wish Dylan would quit running down the train , talk about ' flashing images warning ' made me dizzy watching him run through it with no thought for how the video looks, far too much faffing with everything , honestly the worst is the toilet obsession , every flipping film, he's in there quick smart .
What those of us interested not sure if other rail enthusiasts agree but being able to see it leave each station, to see how fast it moves away , say between diesel mode and electric .
Plus more outside views , as it gives an idea again what it's like to take a journey on such a train.
He really needs to stop the fiddling and give more quality and substance , also a few facts about each train , plus rating each operator would not go amis.
And finally will he ever bloody sit still ?
@@jonathanroberts1328 It seems you have an obsession with his toilet 'obsession'.
11:20 I love this part so much lol
Actually, the smallest train operator is Pre-Metro Operations who run the rail service between Stourbridge Junction and Stourbridge Town on behalf of West Midlands Railways. They have just two trains which operate the service alternate weeks. The distance is just 0.6 miles and the trains run every 10 minutes. Earlier this year Network Rail replaced most of the track on the line.
I actually like Hull trains and it is on my bucket list to just ride them!!!
I would also like to say that your videos are amazing and my whole family watches your videos with me.
Damn that's one exciting household u live in 😎
I went on GWR 802 yesterday and when I put my head back it actually hurt a bit XD.
Even voyager’s are more comfortable
Also those friggin toilet doors 😂
The space between carriages seems like enough for the train to do a tight 180 turn.
Dylan, thx again for another great review; seeing these and the Grand Central trains pass up/down the ECML makes me wanna do a mini trip of my own.
- What do you call the people in Hull?
- Hulligans
I've lost count of how many of these videos I have watched during the pandemic months! I really ought to subscribe as they really do provide an instant train travel fix! And it's the little things... like text info on when the train pantographs should have gone up versus when they did, etc. No in-the-way narration, simple and clear videos, and useful - but non-obtrusive or too screen hogging - text. Nice one.
Thanks a lot 😁
Hi Dylan.
Thanks for another interesting video. I did think that you might have mentioned that Grantham was the birthplace of Lady Thatcher, our first female Prime Minister.
I mention this as a fact not as an avid supporter.
Certainly rather more pertinent than the rather obscure claim to fame that was highlighted! There again, being Mrs T's birthplace makes it a place to avoid IMHO...
@@timbounds7190 And I shall arrange a marauding party of Scots immediately....
I am currently in Linlithgow.....and also English. There's always a flaw isn't there!
Greetings from Ireland. Have done that trip on a few Occasions. Really enjoyed it
I agree with with you Dylan … a nice afternoon tea service from the trolley would have enhanced the experience. Nothing like having tea and sandwiches whilst watching the “autumnal” weather outside pass by. Oh and it’s always beneficial to carry a pair of ear plugs with you in your napsack. 😂. Just in case there’s unwanted noise about. 😉
That livery is so stunning
Indeed! I’m a fan of it
Hi Dylan I've got to say I like the art work on the exterior and the interior is quite nice and I've done Grantham to Hull in first class in June off this year and then done Hull to London Kings Cross in standard class and it was beautiful to travel at speed though my main line station of PETERBOROUGH but great travel video it's a big thumbs up from me
Selby is an absolute hidden gem and I'd recommend getting off there if you get the chance
4:16 I havant tried the first class seats on any of the 80x trains but the standard class seats are a bit of a raw deal. 7:03 Selby used to be on the East Coast mainline. The ECML that we know and love today has changed over time. The construction of the Selby Diversion meant that Selby is no longer on the ECML.
first class is great
Not that it's relevant but P&O ferries pre covid did a nice "mini cruise" from Hull to Bruges. It's not a cruise but is cheap and worthwhile...
On the video, does Dylan always reference Arsenal on route to/from Kings Cross.....Very similar in Leeds🤔....
I'm now wanting a video doing the match day train to Manchester United! 😉😊
Sadly, those ferries were scrapped recently but I agree, they were pretty decent!
@@DylansTravelReports Really! That's such a shame. 😕
I live the livery. I’m all for it. It’s better than. One of our Aberdeen buses. They remind me of fairground nougat.
I love nougats...
Very nice trip on the hull trains and the interior looks good despite hard seats. I also like that the train was going very fast even into London suburbs
Can't beat a mention of Larkin to brighten up a Friday night :)
I work all day, and get half-drunk at night.
Waking at four to soundless dark, I stare.
In time the curtain-edges will grow light.
Till then I see what’s really always there:
Unresting death, a whole day nearer now,
Making all thought impossible but how
And where and when I shall myself die.
Arid interrogation: yet the dread
Of dying, and being dead,
Flashes afresh to hold and horrify.
Sometimes in wet weather the train driver has to stop the train before the phantograph can be released.normaly at a railway station.but if the whole route is electric using the phantograph system the phantograph stays up.In a large area of southeast London the electric trains run on the third rail system
That Wi-Fi is good for LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT browsing by the looks of it...
perhaps do a video on the national express or comparing coaches to trains, price experience etc
Ooh! How embarrassing, to be overtaken by Thameslink while on a class 800.
Those Thameslink trains do get a move on between stations (and boy do they stop at many stations). The service from Rainham (Kent) to Luton (Beds) stops at practically every station en route.
Lovely video. Thanks for sharing. I would definitely give it a try. I love extra legroom when I'm travelling. 😉
I think Hull Trains offer a decent service considering how small of an operator they are. The livery is an interesting concept, but it could be improved.
I think there should really be an hourly service from Hull considering how big Hull is and that LNER has like 2 a day. Also maybe even one or two to Scarborough as a couple already go to Beverley...
@@georgedowns4034 I think they won't go to Scarborough because of Northern Trains and they would need to change the agreements
@@Captain_Yorkie1 yeah ik. Still would be kinda cool though
Thank You for this gift👍🏾
Nice video as always.
A non-train comment, you mention the (dated) Prospect Centre is not far away, but fail to mention the modern St Stephen's shopping development is also alongside the Interchange and I'd say that is much more appealing!
Superb video as ever, Dylan. Not sure if you know, but Hull Station appears in the 1986 film, ‘Clockwise’- there are some great shots in the film of how it appeared back then! Stay well and keep up the great work.
Also seen in the Only Fools and Horses episode "To Hull and Back" when Uncle Albert arrives by train to join Del and Rodney.
@@craigpenny289 Yes!
Excuse me sir, are there any direct trains between Hull and London?
No, I'm afraid you'll have to change at Doncaster
Fine, I'll run my own service!
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I think the Hull trains look quite nice, especially the rich blue color.
Nice video. However I would disagree on the seats and comfort on those IET/Azuma/Nova 1/Paragons. The seats are hard even in first class, and ride are bumpy at high speed, so bumpy that those divider doors rattle throughout the journey.
I could say the same bout the 91, Standard Class is always rock hard.
Great video !!
Thanks!
09:40 "Back outside, we're just pulling into our next calling point, Retford". Surely the inside is also pulling into Retford - unless the Class 800 is like a Tardis?! Sorry - couldn't help myself. :P
Great video!
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Interessantes Video ,danke für das Einstellen.
The Prospect Shopping Centre is a little way from the Interchange. Go to St Stephen’s, which is indeed just across the road. Loved the video, thanks.
I think I meant St Stephen's
Hull Trains look like they have Trainbows except it's the only livery and they operate it all year
At 7:23 , the reason why the train did not switch to electric power was because the ECML OHLE Equipment are too weak for a pantograph raise on the move. This is the same reason why TPE have to change power at York instead of Colton Junction on their Liverpool - Edinburgh/Newcastle services.
Thanks for the info!
11:20 Those Class 717 Thameslink services are restricted to the slow lines, which is limited to about 120km/h. The fast lines are rated for 200km/h :).
11:27 oh no, you must have had a caution signal to enable the Thameslink to pass again.
Thameslink doesn’t have class 717s, Great Northern have 717s
Liked the video very much
The livery is really beautiful !
Excellent video,I love the great quality of the video
nice train thru english countryside first class look great.train station in Hull looks great.
Those First Class seats didn't appear very First Class - more second class. As to the livery, it looks as though someone's tried to be clever - but it doesn't work. It's a mess. I take it the brightness in the carriages is to enable folk to read, but an individual light would do the same. Overall I'm very neutral about Hull Trains - nothing to brag about but not much wrong either.
I personally am not keen on most first class as they are not distinctive enough to justify paying the extra money...
@@georgedowns4034 You've hit the nail on the head George. First Class used to mean very comfortable wide seats with plenty of leg room in a plush setting that oozed quality - just adding a comp drink and snack sat in something that looks as though it came from IKEA doesn't equate with the prices charged.
The windows are huge and clean. Great to see out of.
I'm not surprised Hull Trains are a niche operator, given that their USP seems to be a short connection to the ECML! Great video as ever Dylan.
Thanks!
Excellent video my friend 😀
I'll be on one from KGX to Doncaster on August 9th, so this has given a good insight on what's to expect. Nicely done :p
Enjoy!
"Small train" or should say carriage, Stourbridge town to Stourbridge junction, about 3-4 minute journey.
I like the variety of livery. Here in South Wales the GWR is very dull dark green, too much on a 10 car train
*Size doesn't matter*
-My mom, 2019-
I'm over on the other side of the Pennines in Manchester, so we get a rather different journey on the west coast main line. It always strikes me just how crap things get any further north or east of here. Unless you're going to London of course, then it's simple. It's crazy that it takes almost an hour longer to get to Newcastle from Manchester than Manchester to London! I really do wish they'd started HS2 up north, or at least start at the same time and meet in the middle rather than the phased build out they're doing right now. We desperately need better rail links locally up here.
Regarding the diesel to electric mode switch, the most likely cause is that to make the change you have to stop and switch off the train, and you don't want to do that in the middle of a mainline route, because it takes at least a few minutes. At least this is the way that Spain Renfe's Serie 730 operates, and I guess it will be the same for these trains.
This is exactly the case.
I like the livery. First has nearly always added that slash of colour that I think we've sometimes needed.
I've had a few opportunities to use HT when travelling London to Nottingham via Grantham but with so many seats always taken pre-Covid, I've always opted for LNER/its predecessors. I'll get it one day.
I quite like the GWR green livery, but I think if they didn't rebrand from First Great Western, this is pretty close to what they'd look like
quite a big train station with it being connected with the buses and coaches
11:20 You know what they say: “Slow and steady wins the race”.
Excellent report Dylan on this company whom I hadn’t really considered before but thinking I might do the trip now - maybe northwards. ‘Proper’ catering makes a big difference to whether I’ll go first class or not and I’m sure I’m not the only one who thinks like that. I wish toc’s would understand this!?! As for the livery, externally I think it’s more suited to a suburban train tbh and the interior well it’s quite similar to GWR isn’t it apart from the colours. Nice one!
Thanks Mark! Yes, I agree with you on the catering. If TPE would reinstate theirs, I'd be much more inclined to fork out the extra money.
When you go from somewhere, what do you actually do there. Do you just go there for the train and the video? OR just exploring? And i would love to see London underground vidoes :D.
50/50, sometimes I'm there for a few days, other times just for the trains.