Are you sure about that scorpion eating mammals and birds? Those didn't evolve in the carboniferous, the first evidence of mammals didn't show up until the middle Jurassic and the first birds weren't until about the late jurassic
2:44 Birds? The first birds haven't evolved for over 150 million years after the extinction of the Pulmonoscorpius kirktonensis. Birds are the descendants of theropod dinosaurs. One of the first known animal that was able to glide (most likely did not posses the ability of flight) while having a more bird like appearance was the infamous Archaeopteryx and even he lived around 151 million years ago in the Tithonian age of the upper Jurrasic, that's a whole 175 million years after the extinction of the Lung Scorpion in the tale end of the Serpukhovian age of the Carboniferous. If we wanna go even further one of the first "birds" to not posses a BONY TALE that was a remnant of their theropod dinosaurs ancestors was one of the enantiornithines named Protopteryx which lived in the Barremian age of the Cretaceous. That's around 22 million years after Archaeropteryx. But even Protopteryx isn't a true bird either as it still had TEATH and CLAWED FINGERS on each wing. The funny thing is enantiornithines did not have a BEAK, a statement feature of modern birds. On the other hand the common ancestor of all birds lost the ability to produce enamel-covered teeth around 116 million years ago, while the oldest known beak was found and dated to be around 85 million years old. This means depending on what you wanna regard as an actual bird, birds did not live for the next 175 - 241 millions years after the extinction of the Lung Scorpion. 2:43 Another nono. We do not have reptiles in the carboniferous but rather amphibious reptiliomorphs which around 323 million years ago evolved into amniotes. There is very little to no evidence of amniotes living in the Mississippian Sub-period. and even if they did evolve at the very, very, very end of it there is virtually no record of them living 326 million years ago with the Lung Scorpion (there is 3 million years of difference with possibly no fossil record to back it up). And even then still no reptiles. The first reptile is a genus named Hylonomus which lived around 312 million years ago, it literally just evolved as the first sauropsids evolved around 312 million years ago. I'm sorry but there is about 14 million years of evolution left for the Pulmonoscorpius to be able to eat reptiles. 2:41 I will also get into the fact that mammals haven't lived in the carboniferous,and the first mammals lived around 210 million years ago in the Rhaetian age of the upper Triassic. And even then we are talking about mammaliaforms like Morganucodontids which by many paleontologists are not true mammals. On top of that the group in which mammals are situated called synapsids evolved around 318 million years ago with the first one being Asaphestera which granted at least lived in the same period as the Scorpion but in a completely different sub-period. Pulmonoscorpius lived in the Mississippion Sub-period whilis Asaphestera lived in the Pennsylvanian Sub-period about 8 million years later. Lets not even talk about the fact that the first synapsids lke the aforementioned Asaphestera but also Archaeothyris and Clepsydrops (which is more closely related to a Dimetrodon than a Mammal) are called "reptile like synapsids" as the overall build of those creatures did not have enough time to diverge from the more reptile like apperance as the reptiles would not evolve for the next 6 million years. For example Asaphestera looks more like the Japanese giant salamander as it literally just evolved from the amphibious reptiliomorphs. For another example the Archaeothyris looks like a lizard and Clepsydrops looks like a dinosaur (for crying out loud a subgroup of the family Ophiacodontidae to which Clepsydrops belongs is called Varanosaur meaning varan lizard).
While I agree with your statements on birds and mammals not existing in the Carboniferous, reptiles were a thing. Hylonomus, Petrolacosaurus, and Spinoaequalis all are confirmed reptiles from this period. Edit: Oops, forgot to read the entire comment, you make a good point there. I don’t know how this made it into the video, but better research should be taken into consideration.
@@angelicwarrior118 I must say the begining of the section in which I discuss reptiles could have been worded a bit different. The way it is worded, might be misguiding as to what my point is. Glad you understood it tho.
What if the tail was similar to that of Rattler to warn off those that got too close, or even beat the ground as a form of communication? Or it could have used it during battles with rivals to their mates.
@@DaveC2729 only some species of wasps and grasshoppers have them, if its not a parasite, i would say it was used for stinging like its scorpio cousin or maybe even climbing as ancient spiders did not weave their silk.
About the centipedes venom. There are species with medically significant venom that have caused deaths. Scolopendra Dahaani is one such species. Also, The pain is obviously much worse than a bee sting...
We'll probably reach such an level of skill in genetic engineering, we'll probably end up cloning or recreating the creatures. The future sure looks bright and creepy. 😎😱
Pulmonoscorpius kirktonensis never lived in "forested areas" as depicted in the video. Trees as we know it evolved way later, as did all of the listed prey animals. Someone really did make her homework before mixing up this video.
They said Carboniferous period. Do you know why it's called that? Because most landmasses were covered in forests of primitive trees known as Scale Trees. Trees soak up carbon from carbon dioxide and output oxygen. These Scale Trees did the same exact thing, except unlike our modern trees which die and get eaten away releasing that carbon back into the open air, Scale Trees had no such decomposing bacteria meaning all that carbon was trapped in the falling trees which simply became buried and eventually turned into all of that lovely carbon rich coal and crude oil, that's where the name Carboniferous comes from.
@@sorrenblitz805 Do you know that has different ages? Of course no, you get your "facts" from wikipedia like these list channels do. Pick up a book sometime. The only trees you would have seen back than would have been arborescents. During this time you wouldn't diverse plant species as they were a lot more specific. Plants during the Visean age were very similar to the ones found during the Tournaisian age when true trees first started to appear. People tend to forget this but sharks are older than trees, it helps to pin point when the first true trees appeared.
Or New Mexico! They say that everything in Texas is BIG well they don't have nothing on New Mexico! I have seen and heard a spider so big that my dog's jumped on the bed and hid behind I caught it in a gallon jar and it filled up the bottom of it!
Too bad that they're actually not around anymore? It would actually be nice to see it for myself but yet again I am glad that they're actually extinct.
@@Bobbb-f3i okay, June bugs, stink bugs and grasshoppers are the worst! You would think they fly drunk! People think bat's will fly into there hair (maybe if they are in a closet with one).
@@cynthiajelsema968 the bats thing is a myth, I grew up on the countryside of britain and in spring/summer time we got thousands of bats and they're just curious, they dive bomb living things to see what they are and cos bugs hang around animals so they check you out. They always veer off before hitting you but you do feel the wind from their wings as they turn and cos of their speed and visibility is usually low when bats hunt, they make you jump. Never heard of one ever hitting a person. It's like the cornered rats go for the throat myth, they try to jump for the gap either side of your head but only if they can't run between your feet. Living on farms we used to destroy colonies of both if we could so seen both rats and bats act like this hundreds of times. Wild rats would scurry over you and only bite if you grabbed it, just saying cos most who believe the bats in the hair also believe the rats go for the throat myth
@@Bobbb-f3i I'm aware of the myth. When I was younger I did wildlife rehab. Where I live we only have little brown bat's they can consume hundreds of mosquitoes in a night. They would have a hard time biting anything bigger.
If the spider was alive during the dinosaur time it definitely wasn't the biggest, no those existed in the Carboniferous period when insects of all kinds were absolutely gigantic
Regarding the ancient insects' large size due to a high oxygen level- theory, I cant help but wonder why havent the scientists tried proving it by breeding some in an artificial environment with higher oxygen % in air...
Please read till the end: Cause thats not how evolution works... Evolution is just genetic mutations over a long period of time, if the mutation is beneficial, the organism will have a higher survival rate and spread that mutation throughout the following generations. If a mutation is beneficial, often relies on outside pressure, environmental effects, climate, predators etc. Insects got smaller, not just because the oxygen levels sank in that time period, a very important reason is the occurance of predators and competitors. They lived at the same time as the first mammals started to become competitors for food, insects were basically way simpler eveolved than mammals, mammals were intelligent, fast and they werent choosers, if you were a big bug, mammals would be able to easily find you and hunt you down. Also the first bats appeared on the earths surface and now insects even became prey that could be easily spotted and attacked from the air. If youre small, you can hide more easily, you need less food, and youre not competing for food with mammals any longer. So for isects it was more beneficial to get smaller, so the big insects all died and gone extinct while smaller species could hide and survive till nowadays. So if you throw insets in a high oxygen artificial environment, without any outside pressures, probably nothing will happen at all. Cause to suddenly grow big again wouldnt be beneficial in any kind of way for those insects. And now comes the really funny part. If you as a scientist would put some kind of outside pressure on the insects, the possibilities are unlimited. Cause evolution is amazing and pretty creative. Lets say you put an equal sized predator into the artificial environment, you have high oxygen levels, the possibilities are not predictable. You might see the prey insects grow bigger again, as a defense mechanism against the predator, but the predator might also evolve to get bigger to be able to hunt the prey down again. Maybe the prey insect wont grow bigger but grows a way harder exosceletton so it cant be eaten. The prey insect might even shrink down so much that it evolves into getting uninteresting as prey for the predator. If the prey is too small you would rather search for bigger stuff to eat than waste all your energy and time hunting the bits of food. The prey insect might get venomous, might evolve a stinger, claws, super strength or super speed, the possibilities are unlimited. Btw scientists do that with fruit flies, cause they have a very short lifespan, so you can observe many generations of fruit flies a year. And we even artificially evolved fruit flies to have better eyesight, better flight and better senses. We made them immune to insecticides, viruses, funghi, bacteria etc. Really cool stuff to be honest. And the problem with artificial evolution is time, we cannot observe insects for millions of years, so even if we would try to grow insects bigger again, we might never see the outcome of the experiment. Evolution needs loooots of time and it had roughly 3,5 billion years to fiddle around with life on earth, we humans can be proud if we make it for another thousand years. Also theres limits to evolution as we have physical limitations. A human cant grow 100 feet tall cause our bones would shatter from our own weigth. Insects dont have lungs, so their breathing apparatus limits their size. With our oxygen levels the maximum size for insects is roughly 10 inches, after that they would just suffocate. Back when oxygen levels were higher the maximum size was roughly 2 feet. So even if you would provide insects with as much oxygen as you can, the exosceletton would at some point become so thick and heavy the insects could barely move around.
@@nitro8529 guys, just go Google. They've done this experiment actually, for example with dragonflies and after some generations they were bigger, just not to the extent their ancient ancestors were.
This might be a bit over sharing but: I've been watching this channel since I was 9 and always loved spiders, snakes, bugs, and all the things people say are creepy. This channel really helped me find the information I wanted and really helped develop me as a scientist (not really, I'm not allowed to have a job 🥲)
Did it teach you anything about mice? Because I think they have made me murderesses? IDK the right word but I really like hearing their little necks break lately! My son called me a mouse murderer! I'm not blood thirsty but they ruin everything! Any ideas?
@@karenjensen6642 That's probably just an instinct we get from our ancestors and a satisfaction from "hunting", nothing to worry about but if it gets to where seeing a cat, dog or human injured has that same satisfaction you should probably see a phycologist
I hope these scientists don't get any bright ideas to try to clone any of these critters, for that reason this is why I'm hella thankful DNA has about a half-life of 520 years. Could you just imagine if DNA had a half-life of millions of years, do you realize what these scientists would be able to do.
i really enjoyed the video! it's fascinating to learn about these ancient creatures. however, i can't help but wonder if exaggerating their size and ferocity might make them seem scarier than they actually were. it raises the question: do we value entertainment over accuracy in our understanding of prehistoric life? what do you all think?
This kinda stuff always gets me it's a fossil found in lava but your certain it's a male and female of the same species but can't answer that question about your own
Imagine the things that never fossilized. 99% of all life on this Earth never had their remains preserved. That would mean there is a 10 foot leg span spider out there somewhere in the past, whos remains were not preserved for us to find.
The lung scorpion most certainly didn't eat birds, reptiles or mammals, since none of these creatures existed 326 million years ago in the Carboniferous period.
there were no mammals... reptiles... or birds... who come after reptiles... like there was only bugs and fish barely pulling themselves out of water. maybe proto amphibians
This channel has a lot of mistakes like that, so many in fact that the channel are borderline missinformative. So be careful because the information is presented like well founded recherche.
@@FFNOJGyou are correct for the most part but amphibians were actually quite widespread at that point I mean the carboniferous is called the age of amphibians for a reason. First amphibians actually predate the Carboniferous as a whole. The oldest known amphibian is Elginerpeton, found in Upper Devonian rocks of Scotland dating to approximately 368 million years ago. By the time that scorpion lived we can observe amphibious reptiliomorphs that around 323 million years ago evolved into amniotes. There is very little to no evidence of amniotes living in the Mississippian Sub-period (358-323 million years ago). and even if they did evolve at the very, very, very end of it there is virtually no record of them living 326 million years ago with the Lung Scorpion (there is 3 million years of difference with possibly no fossil record to back it up). And even then still no reptiles. The first reptile is a genus named Hylonomus which lived around 312 million years ago, it literally just evolved as the first sauropsids evolved around 312 million years ago. So there was about 14 million years of evolution left for the Pulmonoscorpius to be able to eat reptiles. On top of that the group in which mammals are situated called synapsids evolved around 318 million years ago with the first one being Asaphestera which granted at least lived in the same period as the Scorpion but in a completely different sub-period Pulmonoscorpius lived in the Mississippion Sub-period whilis Asaphestera lived in the Pennsylvanian Sub-period about 8 million years later. But lets acknowledge the fact that the first synapsids lke the aforementioned Asaphestera but also Archaeothyris and Clepsydrops (which is more closely related to Dimorphodon than to Mammals) are called "reptile like synapsids" as the overall build of those creatures did not have enough time to diverge from the more reptile like apperance as the reptiles themselves would not evolve for the next 6 million years. For example Asaphestera looks more like the Japanese giant salamandernder as it literally just evolved from the amphibious reptiliomorphs.
No, that is not nearly the size of a golden retriever.. so tired of shit being made up just because people dont know better or are being too lazy to check it up.
Better check some facts! There were no birds or mammals and not much in the way of reptiles as far back as the Carboniferous period. Big scorpion alright. But not quite that varied a diet.
Wat i think of the spider with tail. Its a breathing tube. And it hunt in the water and on land. Just poking its tail tru the surface for air. Its still been able to scout for its next meal. Some waterbugs have it as wel up to this day
How the heck can we find a fossilized spider, with spinnerets, then pompously say “oh it couldn’t have made webs” what lead to that profound conclusion? As far as we know it wove it’s web with its goofy tail.
Well, that profound conclusion is not really that profound to begin with. So lets begin with the #1 thing that the woman said that is completely wrong. Chimerarachne is not a spider, Chmerarachne is an arachnid but it does not belong to the order Araneae (Spiders) but to an extinct order Uraraneida which is very closely related. Both orders belong to the same clade called Serikodiastida. So how did we came into the conclusion that Uraraneida was not able to weave those classic, radial, silk structures that we call spider webs? Its simple. Silk-producing spigots are present but are borne along the rear edges of ventral plates, not on appendage-like spinnerets, as in spiders. The spinnerets position was effectively making it impossible to weave a spider's web. Does that mean that Uraraneida was unable to produce silk? Of course no. It used it in a much more primitive way. You see Uraraneida is a much older order than Araneae. In fact, Uraraneide is lived nearly as much before Araneae as Dinosaurs lived before us. To be exact 68 million years faster. When spiders moved from the water to the land in the Early Devonian period, they started making silk to protect their bodies and their eggs. Spiders gradually started using silk for hunting purposes, first as guide lines and signal lines, then as ground or bush webs, and eventually as the aerial webs that are familiar today. Uraraneida possibly lived up until the Cretaceous period with the Dinosaurs and for nearly 200 million years next to Araneae but if that is the case it definitely covered a different niche than Araneae. Araneae possesses appendage-like spinnerets allowing them to weave arboreal radial, silk structures. Uraraneide was unable to do that and likely underwent niche partitioning and was mostly ground-dwelling still using archaic hunting strategies like guide lines and signal lines or ground or bush webs. That niche partitioning is possibly also why we do not find many Araneae species from crotaceus, jurrassic or triassic periods that were particularly big and had body adaptations for an active hunting lifestyle. The largest Araneae has been found in China, measuring only 1 inch (2.5 centimeters) in length, the fossil was dated to be around 165 million years old. That spider was an Orb-weaver spider and created massive arboreal webs. After the Cretaceous-Paleogene extinction event that wiped out dinosaurs Uraraneida went extinct (possibly even faster than that), leaving a more ground dwelling active hunting niche vacant. That is why the largest spiders in history are living right now as that role in the ecosystem requires a larger body size while the arboreal lifestyle requires a light build that the silk is able to hold. Also Uraraneide was not using it's "tail" which is actually a modified whip-like telson to weave it's web.
The spider "Tail" wasn't a tail, it was an extra long appendage found only on the male of the species, it prolonged his life span as we all know that female spiders eat the male after breeding...🤣🤣🤣
There is a city found under the ice of Antarctica, using lydar and the city would have been in lush greenery, if my math is correct about 207,600 years ago.
Ok you're unable to show any proof or link any sites that show this lydar(not gonna point out how pathetic this makes you look). I'm curious about your maths, cos 207,600 years is a random number, can you prove me wrong?
Nah what your seeing is the hollow portion of earth, the earth is hollow btw, the city was actually started at the end of 1945 when the Nazis lost the war and went into hiding. There still there to this day and there technology is so advanced that there able to disguise there city as a long lost civilization that collapsed some 207,600 years ago.
I saw that same kind of dragonfly by the side of my door I wish I would have grabbed it I have a swamp behind my house I think that's where it came from but I have never saw it again
It's called an Anomalocaris. An anomalocaridid is any animal in the family Anomalocarida, or more correctly the subfamily Anomalocarididae, which includes Anomalocaris, but that's not what the species' name is. That would be like calling a dog a canid. Technically correct, but not the animal's species. Also there is not a single Carboniferous scorpion regardless of their size that ate small mammals and birds because they did not even evolve yet and would not for millions of years. There were literally none around for them to eat. It would be about as scientifically possible as Tyrannosaurus hunting elephants. One last thing, even if we interpret "bugs" as actually meaning "insects", Titanomyrna and Meganeuropsis are the only "bugs" I saw on this list. Most of them are arachnids or another type of arthropod. Jaekleopterus is not a bug, Anomalocaris is not a bug, spiders, scorpions and millipedes are not bugs. This list should have been "scariest prehistoric arthropods (or) invertebrates", but I guess "bugs" gets more clicks and views. I probably missed a lot more, but admittedly I skipped around the video a lot because the false information was making me angry and I was concerned that Megarachne would be on this list passed off as a giant spider, but at least you got the eurypterid thing right.
Aren’t the spiders possible genders switched because the one you called a female has little boxing glove things, and aren’t those normally a male spider trait???
Are you sure about that scorpion eating mammals and birds? Those didn't evolve in the carboniferous, the first evidence of mammals didn't show up until the middle Jurassic and the first birds weren't until about the late jurassic
Same here...
Yeah, and what golden retriever is only 2ft long? Ha
It was a centipede that they said ate birds & bats. Towards the end of the video.
@@russell_szabados they said brontoscorpio also did near the beginning
@@Lannycakes42 a puppy
if you think the prehistoric adult dragonflies are scary imagine what the nymph phase would be like back then.
Yeah!! Lol
The most clickbait thumbnail ever.
Totally
2:44
Birds? The first birds haven't evolved for over 150 million years after the extinction of the Pulmonoscorpius kirktonensis. Birds are the descendants of theropod dinosaurs. One of the first known animal that was able to glide (most likely did not posses the ability of flight) while having a more bird like appearance was the infamous Archaeopteryx and even he lived around 151 million years ago in the Tithonian age of the upper Jurrasic, that's a whole 175 million years after the extinction of the Lung Scorpion in the tale end of the Serpukhovian age of the Carboniferous. If we wanna go even further one of the first "birds" to not posses a BONY TALE that was a remnant of their theropod dinosaurs ancestors was one of the enantiornithines named Protopteryx which lived in the Barremian age of the Cretaceous. That's around 22 million years after Archaeropteryx. But even Protopteryx isn't a true bird either as it still had TEATH and CLAWED FINGERS on each wing. The funny thing is enantiornithines did not have a BEAK, a statement feature of modern birds. On the other hand the common ancestor of all birds lost the ability to produce enamel-covered teeth around 116 million years ago, while the oldest known beak was found and dated to be around 85 million years old. This means depending on what you wanna regard as an actual bird, birds did not live for the next 175 - 241 millions years after the extinction of the Lung Scorpion.
2:43
Another nono. We do not have reptiles in the carboniferous but rather amphibious reptiliomorphs which around 323 million years ago evolved into amniotes. There is very little to no evidence of amniotes living in the Mississippian Sub-period. and even if they did evolve at the very, very, very end of it there is virtually no record of them living 326 million years ago with the Lung Scorpion (there is 3 million years of difference with possibly no fossil record to back it up). And even then still no reptiles. The first reptile is a genus named Hylonomus which lived around 312 million years ago, it literally just evolved as the first sauropsids evolved around 312 million years ago. I'm sorry but there is about 14 million years of evolution left for the Pulmonoscorpius to be able to eat reptiles.
2:41
I will also get into the fact that mammals haven't lived in the carboniferous,and the first mammals lived around 210 million years ago in the Rhaetian age of the upper Triassic. And even then we are talking about mammaliaforms like Morganucodontids which by many paleontologists are not true mammals. On top of that the group in which mammals are situated called synapsids evolved around 318 million years ago with the first one being Asaphestera which granted at least lived in the same period as the Scorpion but in a completely different sub-period. Pulmonoscorpius lived in the Mississippion Sub-period whilis Asaphestera lived in the Pennsylvanian Sub-period about 8 million years later. Lets not even talk about the fact that the first synapsids lke the aforementioned
Asaphestera but also Archaeothyris and Clepsydrops (which is more closely related to a Dimetrodon than a Mammal) are called "reptile like synapsids" as the overall build of those creatures did not have enough time to diverge from the more reptile like apperance as the reptiles would not evolve for the next 6 million years. For example Asaphestera looks more like the Japanese giant salamander as it literally just evolved from the amphibious reptiliomorphs. For another example the Archaeothyris looks like a lizard and Clepsydrops looks like a dinosaur (for crying out loud a subgroup of the family Ophiacodontidae to which Clepsydrops belongs is called Varanosaur meaning varan lizard).
Yes the flashing error light went off in my head as well! You however have done a much better job of detailing the specifics.
This was very well detailed thank you for this information
That's what i was gonna say.
While I agree with your statements on birds and mammals not existing in the Carboniferous, reptiles were a thing. Hylonomus, Petrolacosaurus, and Spinoaequalis all are confirmed reptiles from this period.
Edit: Oops, forgot to read the entire comment, you make a good point there. I don’t know how this made it into the video, but better research should be taken into consideration.
@@angelicwarrior118 I must say the begining of the section in which I discuss reptiles could have been worded a bit different. The way it is worded, might be misguiding as to what my point is. Glad you understood it tho.
#9. Proto-spider? That's a frigging proto-face-hugger!
What if the tail was similar to that of Rattler to warn off those that got too close, or even beat the ground as a form of communication?
Or it could have used it during battles with rivals to their mates.
More likely an ovipositor.
Is it too unscientific to ask if this creature was the common ancestor of spiders and scorpions?
@@DaveC2729 only some species of wasps and grasshoppers have them, if its not a parasite, i would say it was used for stinging like its scorpio cousin or maybe even climbing as ancient spiders did not weave their silk.
About the centipedes venom.
There are species with medically significant venom that have caused deaths.
Scolopendra Dahaani is one such species.
Also, The pain is obviously much worse than a bee sting...
Very interesting. I hope i live to see the day when i can put on vr and see these creatures in front of me to scale.
We'll probably reach such an level of skill in genetic engineering, we'll probably end up cloning or recreating the creatures. The future sure looks bright and creepy.
😎😱
Imagine getting stuck in one of those prehistoric spider's web.🕷🕸
Just ask neji he was basically caught in this type of web when he faced kidomaru
Lord of the rings vibe
Now imagine a T Rex snatch you away from the spider's dinner table to make you his own ..
Nice.
Actually, I would rather not imagine it, thanks anyway!!😵
Pulmonoscorpius kirktonensis never lived in "forested areas" as depicted in the video. Trees as we know it evolved way later, as did all of the listed prey animals. Someone really did make her homework before mixing up this video.
They said Carboniferous period. Do you know why it's called that? Because most landmasses were covered in forests of primitive trees known as Scale Trees. Trees soak up carbon from carbon dioxide and output oxygen. These Scale Trees did the same exact thing, except unlike our modern trees which die and get eaten away releasing that carbon back into the open air, Scale Trees had no such decomposing bacteria meaning all that carbon was trapped in the falling trees which simply became buried and eventually turned into all of that lovely carbon rich coal and crude oil, that's where the name Carboniferous comes from.
They never do any research, it's like that with all list channels.
@@sorrenblitz805 Do you know that has different ages? Of course no, you get your "facts" from wikipedia like these list channels do. Pick up a book sometime. The only trees you would have seen back than would have been arborescents. During this time you wouldn't diverse plant species as they were a lot more specific. Plants during the Visean age were very similar to the ones found during the Tournaisian age when true trees first started to appear. People tend to forget this but sharks are older than trees, it helps to pin point when the first true trees appeared.
@@Andulvar books > internet = win 🤓 books can’t ever be wrong. it’s a fact 🤓🤡
The only good spider is a dead spider unless it's harmless to humans or it's the jumping spider which I enjoy watching it pounce on its prey.
And a jumping spider eats other spider's
@@karenjensen6642 that's why I said prey.
Nice picture of a bearded dragon. If they were to come up against a two foot scorpion, they definitely would have been lunch.
You can catch, saddle, and ride the lung scorpion in Ark. Beelzebufo too. Spino. Sarco. There so many cool things in Ark..
I think it's okay insects won't get that big again. On the other hand, have you seen the bugs in Central America, or Hawaii?
Or New Mexico! They say that everything in Texas is BIG well they don't have nothing on New Mexico! I have seen and heard a spider so big that my dog's jumped on the bed and hid behind I caught it in a gallon jar and it filled up the bottom of it!
I have lived in the south. So yes, I know big
@@karenjensen6642 Yikes! Sounds like that happened in Australia
Being an ancient spider must be crazy
Seeing as how none of these creatures exist today, they aren't so much scary as fascinating.
02:31--can you explain how a Carboniferous land scorpion could feed on mammals and birds that had not evolved yet?
Too bad that they're actually not around anymore? It would actually be nice to see it for myself but yet again I am glad that they're actually extinct.
Not me!
YOU ARE THE BEST! KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!
You should watch bright side too if you like this 😁
So glad I decided to watch while eating 👍🏼 lol
Not eating bugs are you?
Ur cuteeee
Nice video, your enthusiasm is funny
Bugs that wear there skeletons on the outside have always creeped me out!
That would be all of them
@@Bobbb-f3i okay, June bugs, stink bugs and grasshoppers are the worst! You would think they fly drunk! People think bat's will fly into there hair (maybe if they are in a closet with one).
crabs and lobster and shrimp also have an exoskeleton.
@@cynthiajelsema968 the bats thing is a myth, I grew up on the countryside of britain and in spring/summer time we got thousands of bats and they're just curious, they dive bomb living things to see what they are and cos bugs hang around animals so they check you out. They always veer off before hitting you but you do feel the wind from their wings as they turn and cos of their speed and visibility is usually low when bats hunt, they make you jump. Never heard of one ever hitting a person. It's like the cornered rats go for the throat myth, they try to jump for the gap either side of your head but only if they can't run between your feet. Living on farms we used to destroy colonies of both if we could so seen both rats and bats act like this hundreds of times. Wild rats would scurry over you and only bite if you grabbed it, just saying cos most who believe the bats in the hair also believe the rats go for the throat myth
@@Bobbb-f3i I'm aware of the myth. When I was younger I did wildlife rehab. Where I live we only have little brown bat's they can consume hundreds of mosquitoes in a night. They would have a hard time biting anything bigger.
2:45 there were no mammals or birds during the Carboniferous Period.
7:13 Founding titan
If the spider was alive during the dinosaur time it definitely wasn't the biggest, no those existed in the Carboniferous period when insects of all kinds were absolutely gigantic
Absolutely love your voice... I would watch your vids and then while working I would let the playlists run. So rare. Thank you.
Regarding the ancient insects' large size due to a high oxygen level- theory, I cant help but wonder why havent the scientists tried proving it by breeding some in an artificial environment with higher oxygen % in air...
They have. I saw it done with Hissing Cockroach.
Right?? That’s interesting
It probably took many generations to evolve to that size, maybe more than a human lifetime.
Please read till the end:
Cause thats not how evolution works... Evolution is just genetic mutations over a long period of time, if the mutation is beneficial, the organism will have a higher survival rate and spread that mutation throughout the following generations. If a mutation is beneficial, often relies on outside pressure, environmental effects, climate, predators etc.
Insects got smaller, not just because the oxygen levels sank in that time period, a very important reason is the occurance of predators and competitors. They lived at the same time as the first mammals started to become competitors for food, insects were basically way simpler eveolved than mammals, mammals were intelligent, fast and they werent choosers, if you were a big bug, mammals would be able to easily find you and hunt you down. Also the first bats appeared on the earths surface and now insects even became prey that could be easily spotted and attacked from the air. If youre small, you can hide more easily, you need less food, and youre not competing for food with mammals any longer. So for isects it was more beneficial to get smaller, so the big insects all died and gone extinct while smaller species could hide and survive till nowadays.
So if you throw insets in a high oxygen artificial environment, without any outside pressures, probably nothing will happen at all. Cause to suddenly grow big again wouldnt be beneficial in any kind of way for those insects.
And now comes the really funny part. If you as a scientist would put some kind of outside pressure on the insects, the possibilities are unlimited. Cause evolution is amazing and pretty creative.
Lets say you put an equal sized predator into the artificial environment, you have high oxygen levels, the possibilities are not predictable. You might see the prey insects grow bigger again, as a defense mechanism against the predator, but the predator might also evolve to get bigger to be able to hunt the prey down again. Maybe the prey insect wont grow bigger but grows a way harder exosceletton so it cant be eaten. The prey insect might even shrink down so much that it evolves into getting uninteresting as prey for the predator. If the prey is too small you would rather search for bigger stuff to eat than waste all your energy and time hunting the bits of food. The prey insect might get venomous, might evolve a stinger, claws, super strength or super speed, the possibilities are unlimited.
Btw scientists do that with fruit flies, cause they have a very short lifespan, so you can observe many generations of fruit flies a year. And we even artificially evolved fruit flies to have better eyesight, better flight and better senses. We made them immune to insecticides, viruses, funghi, bacteria etc.
Really cool stuff to be honest.
And the problem with artificial evolution is time, we cannot observe insects for millions of years, so even if we would try to grow insects bigger again, we might never see the outcome of the experiment. Evolution needs loooots of time and it had roughly 3,5 billion years to fiddle around with life on earth, we humans can be proud if we make it for another thousand years.
Also theres limits to evolution as we have physical limitations. A human cant grow 100 feet tall cause our bones would shatter from our own weigth. Insects dont have lungs, so their breathing apparatus limits their size. With our oxygen levels the maximum size for insects is roughly 10 inches, after that they would just suffocate. Back when oxygen levels were higher the maximum size was roughly 2 feet. So even if you would provide insects with as much oxygen as you can, the exosceletton would at some point become so thick and heavy the insects could barely move around.
@@nitro8529 guys, just go Google. They've done this experiment actually, for example with dragonflies and after some generations they were bigger, just not to the extent their ancient ancestors were.
Fascinating but terrifying!
This might be a bit over sharing but:
I've been watching this channel since I was 9 and always loved spiders, snakes, bugs, and all the things people say are creepy. This channel really helped me find the information I wanted and really helped develop me as a scientist (not really, I'm not allowed to have a job 🥲)
never lose your interest in science
@@robertbernard6410 Thank you, I won't, I'm planning on becoming a forensic Entomologist, lots of school, but I'll love my job
My kid's got me ready for whatever cometh
Did it teach you anything about mice? Because I think they have made me murderesses? IDK the right word but I really like hearing their little necks break lately! My son called me a mouse murderer! I'm not blood thirsty but they ruin everything! Any ideas?
@@karenjensen6642 That's probably just an instinct we get from our ancestors and a satisfaction from "hunting", nothing to worry about but if it gets to where seeing a cat, dog or human injured has that same satisfaction you should probably see a phycologist
12:08. The megarachne reconstruction actually looks cute
"Scientists are unsure of what the golden retriever sized scorpion ate"
Its main diet obviously mainly consists of you. In your nightmares.
"Prehistoric bugs" talks about spiders and scorpions...😂
That spider was the creepiest thing I ever seen
Look you can't confuse me. That's a rad scorpion!!! and they almost got me in fallout 4 yesterday too
this comment made me happy
There were no mammals during the Carboniferous period. They didn't show up until the mid Jurrassic.
wolf spiders also care for their young.. they can often be found carrying their babies on the backs of their abdomen
Hi Katrina have a great day and love your voice 😍
Kamararacne And shelob both has stingers
I hope these scientists don't get any bright ideas to try to clone any of these critters, for that reason this is why I'm hella thankful DNA has about a half-life of 520 years. Could you just imagine if DNA had a half-life of millions of years, do you realize what these scientists would be able to do.
looool they found soft tissue and ligaments in dinosaur bones...pure bs on current evolution myths..not millions of years earth is relatively young
Thanks.
Number 9 looks like a whip scorpion
i really enjoyed the video! it's fascinating to learn about these ancient creatures. however, i can't help but wonder if exaggerating their size and ferocity might make them seem scarier than they actually were. it raises the question: do we value entertainment over accuracy in our understanding of prehistoric life? what do you all think?
I hope one day someone finds me fossilized and thinks I belong in a museum.
Meanwhile it's proven that Megarachne was no real spider but a sea scorpion relativ!
I'm kinda argued that Meganeuropsis was smaller than Meganeura as originally thought, which is still larger than Meganeuropsis
Love your channel but is it just my PC or are all your videos uploaded with very low audio?
This kinda stuff always gets me it's a fossil found in lava but your certain it's a male and female of the same species but can't answer that question about your own
Birds in the carboniferous lol there weren't even any dinosaurs from they evolved from.
Lol neither did mammals cuz they evolved in the jurassic
I love how I knew almost all of these because of Ark:Survival Evolved
2:49 Perfection
Elmo is a great name for a city built on top of real monsters.
Megarachne servinei meaning great spider not a sea scorpion 12:07
The huntsman spider is just as big as mega spider
Imagine the things that never fossilized. 99% of all life on this Earth never had their remains preserved.
That would mean there is a 10 foot leg span spider out there somewhere in the past, whos remains were not preserved for us to find.
That part is ‘Kaw Thoo Lei’ not Myanmar
The lung scorpion most certainly didn't eat birds, reptiles or mammals, since none of these creatures existed 326 million years ago in the Carboniferous period.
If all of them existed today,you won't just need insecticide but maybe an arsenal of guns as well!!
There were no birds or mammals during the Carboniferous.
I don't think I would have liked to meet up with that huge milipede! 😱
I wouldn't want to meet any of them I'm pretty sure I'm going to regret even hearing about them
I've seen a 91cm long millipede on 陽明山。
@@michaelrooker1218 regretting getting bitten by a herbivore be like:
The female spider was probably a young spider and that's why she was smaller than the male .
Isn’t number 6 artropleura the same creature as number2?
If not what is the name of number 2?
I thought the Carboniferous period predated the emergence of mammals. Not to be confused with mammal-like creatures.
there were no mammals... reptiles... or birds... who come after reptiles... like there was only bugs and fish barely pulling themselves out of water. maybe proto amphibians
This channel has a lot of mistakes like that, so many in fact that the channel are borderline missinformative. So be careful because the information is presented like well founded recherche.
@@FFNOJGyou are correct for the most part but amphibians were actually quite widespread at that point I mean the carboniferous is called the age of amphibians for a reason. First amphibians actually predate the Carboniferous as a whole. The oldest known amphibian is Elginerpeton, found in Upper Devonian rocks of Scotland dating to approximately 368 million years ago. By the time that scorpion lived we can observe amphibious reptiliomorphs that around 323 million years ago evolved into amniotes. There is very little to no evidence of amniotes living in the Mississippian Sub-period (358-323 million years ago). and even if they did evolve at the very, very, very end of it there is virtually no record of them living 326 million years ago with the Lung Scorpion (there is 3 million years of difference with possibly no fossil record to back it up). And even then still no reptiles. The first reptile is a genus named Hylonomus which lived around 312 million years ago, it literally just evolved as the first sauropsids evolved around 312 million years ago. So there was about 14 million years of evolution left for the Pulmonoscorpius to be able to eat reptiles.
On top of that the group in which mammals are situated called synapsids evolved around 318 million years ago with the first one being Asaphestera which granted at least lived in the same period as the Scorpion but in a completely different sub-period Pulmonoscorpius lived in the Mississippion Sub-period whilis Asaphestera lived in the Pennsylvanian Sub-period about 8 million years later. But lets acknowledge the fact that the first synapsids lke the aforementioned Asaphestera but also Archaeothyris and Clepsydrops (which is more closely related to Dimorphodon than to Mammals) are called "reptile like synapsids" as the overall build of those creatures did not have enough time to diverge from the more reptile like apperance as the reptiles themselves would not evolve for the next 6 million years. For example Asaphestera looks more like the Japanese giant salamandernder as it literally just evolved from the amphibious reptiliomorphs.
i wonder how much can you sell fossils to a museum
Weren’t no birds or mammals in the Carboniferous period.
No, that is not nearly the size of a golden retriever.. so tired of shit being made up just because people dont know better or are being too lazy to check it up.
1 giant spider or a bunch of snakes? Give me the snakes, no question.
wait a scorpion was 2 feet in lenght, or the size of a Golden Retriever? What...?
I guess Golden Retrievers are smaller where she comes from 😆
I want a spider the size of a small car! Then I can fit it with a saddle and reins, and off we trot to The Burning Man!💪😄🎶🎉
Environmentalists be like: *somehow, that absolutely has got to be humanity's fault that these things went extinct...*
Better check some facts! There were no birds or mammals and not much in the way of reptiles as far back as the Carboniferous period. Big scorpion alright. But not quite that varied a diet.
Wat i think of the spider with tail. Its a breathing tube. And it hunt in the water and on land. Just poking its tail tru the surface for air. Its still been able to scout for its next meal. Some waterbugs have it as wel up to this day
Jumping spiders are vary cute I like there eyes😊
From Hell They Came.
How about the scarab bettles on the mummy, or the giant spider that got Frodo on the Lord of the Rings, or the arachnids on Star Ship Trooper's
Actually Titanus Scylla is the largest Spider Species on Planet EARTH !
we need to find the immortal alien that was running around the planet pouring amber all over everything
That must be what scolipede and giritina from Pokémon are based on they both resemble that bug except giritina is like a flying arthropleura
How the heck can we find a fossilized spider, with spinnerets, then pompously say “oh it couldn’t have made webs” what lead to that profound conclusion? As far as we know it wove it’s web with its goofy tail.
Well, that profound conclusion is not really that profound to begin with. So lets begin with the #1 thing that the woman said that is completely wrong. Chimerarachne is not a spider,
Chmerarachne is an arachnid but it does not belong to the order Araneae (Spiders) but to an extinct order Uraraneida which is very closely related. Both orders belong to the same clade called Serikodiastida. So how did we came into the conclusion that Uraraneida was not able to weave those classic, radial, silk structures that we call spider webs? Its simple.
Silk-producing spigots are present but are borne along the rear edges of ventral plates, not on appendage-like spinnerets, as in spiders. The spinnerets position was effectively making it impossible to weave a spider's web. Does that mean that Uraraneida was unable to produce silk? Of course no. It used it in a much more primitive way. You see Uraraneida is a much older order than Araneae. In fact, Uraraneide is lived nearly as much before Araneae as Dinosaurs lived before us. To be exact 68 million years faster.
When spiders moved from the water to the land in the Early Devonian period, they started making silk to protect their bodies and their eggs. Spiders gradually started using silk for hunting purposes, first as guide lines and signal lines, then as ground or bush webs, and eventually as the aerial webs that are familiar today. Uraraneida possibly lived up until the Cretaceous period with the Dinosaurs and for nearly 200 million years next to Araneae but if that is the case it definitely covered a different niche than Araneae. Araneae possesses appendage-like spinnerets allowing them to weave arboreal radial, silk structures. Uraraneide was unable to do that and likely underwent niche partitioning and was mostly ground-dwelling still using archaic hunting strategies like guide lines and signal lines or ground or bush webs.
That niche partitioning is possibly also why we do not find many Araneae species from crotaceus, jurrassic or triassic periods that were particularly big and had body adaptations for an active hunting lifestyle. The largest Araneae has been found in China, measuring only 1 inch (2.5 centimeters) in length, the fossil was dated to be around 165 million years old. That spider was an Orb-weaver spider and created massive arboreal webs.
After the Cretaceous-Paleogene extinction event that wiped out dinosaurs Uraraneida went extinct (possibly even faster than that), leaving a more ground dwelling active hunting niche vacant. That is why the largest spiders in history are living right now as that role in the ecosystem requires a larger body size while the arboreal lifestyle requires a light build that the silk is able to hold.
Also Uraraneide was not using it's "tail" which is actually a modified whip-like telson to weave it's web.
Um……there were no birds for the giant scorpion to eat in the Carboniferous period. BOOOOOOOOOO! 👎
Lol what kind of golden retriever is only 2ft long?? 😂😂😂
can you imagine a 2ft long scorpion walking around? Eeesh.
I'm a scorpion . cool.
Do you have a stinger?
How big is the spider? Why would you say the first spider is the biggest spider and not give the size?
She literally says “roughly the size of your face”
@@Hhtp.cassondra I didn't realize your face was a unit of measurement.
Is the body that big or the leg span just figured if it is on record for being the biggest the size would be more clear and precise.
More literal
The spider "Tail" wasn't a tail, it was an extra long appendage found only on the male of the species, it prolonged his life span as we all know that female spiders eat the male after breeding...🤣🤣🤣
So a tail
There is a city found under the ice of Antarctica, using lydar and the city would have been in lush greenery, if my math is correct about 207,600 years ago.
proof???
Add an article link so we can read it. That is if you are correct.
Nonsense
Ok you're unable to show any proof or link any sites that show this lydar(not gonna point out how pathetic this makes you look). I'm curious about your maths, cos 207,600 years is a random number, can you prove me wrong?
Nah what your seeing is the hollow portion of earth, the earth is hollow btw, the city was actually started at the end of 1945 when the Nazis lost the war and went into hiding. There still there to this day and there technology is so advanced that there able to disguise there city as a long lost civilization that collapsed some 207,600 years ago.
Bro.. that first spider is only 2 inches long... I've Golden Orb weavers 3x that size on my porch.. Yes, I burned. the house down
I doubt that even a wooly mamanth could break free from one those giant spider webs
The largest spider to ever exist is the goliath bird eater.... It doesnt even produce webs
Giant water scorpions? Nope...
a creature from the Ordovician ate 'nuts' and 'seeds' (walnuts and sunflower seeds shown)?
* me who has knowledge before big bang * you humans aren't prepared for space... especially for what lives in the void pockets
I saw that same kind of dragonfly by the side of my door I wish I would have grabbed it I have a swamp behind my house I think that's where it came from but I have never saw it again
It's called an Anomalocaris. An anomalocaridid is any animal in the family Anomalocarida, or more correctly the subfamily Anomalocarididae, which includes Anomalocaris, but that's not what the species' name is. That would be like calling a dog a canid. Technically correct, but not the animal's species.
Also there is not a single Carboniferous scorpion regardless of their size that ate small mammals and birds because they did not even evolve yet and would not for millions of years. There were literally none around for them to eat. It would be about as scientifically possible as Tyrannosaurus hunting elephants.
One last thing, even if we interpret "bugs" as actually meaning "insects", Titanomyrna and Meganeuropsis are the only "bugs" I saw on this list. Most of them are arachnids or another type of arthropod. Jaekleopterus is not a bug, Anomalocaris is not a bug, spiders, scorpions and millipedes are not bugs. This list should have been "scariest prehistoric arthropods (or) invertebrates", but I guess "bugs" gets more clicks and views.
I probably missed a lot more, but admittedly I skipped around the video a lot because the false information was making me angry and I was concerned that Megarachne would be on this list passed off as a giant spider, but at least you got the eurypterid thing right.
So can we say a facehugger is a xeno spider?
Yes we can lol 😂👌
The Carboniferous period didn't have mammals.
I would love to see a 2ft lab
Soo you bring up a large spider but don't say the size 🤣🤣🤣
Aren’t the spiders possible genders switched because the one you called a female has little boxing glove things, and aren’t those normally a male spider trait???
The spider with a tail just looks to me like a face hugger. Burn it with fire then shoot its ashes then burn it again
Spider with a tail..... am i the only one the jumped to "face hugger"?
I think there is a mistake in the video about the scorpion. The narrator says the scorpion ate birds in a timeperod long long begore birds existed