How we repaired our 1984 Atari Return of the Jedi Arcade Game!
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I was a wee young nipper of a teen in the early 1980s with my bag of loose change heading down to the arcade halls to play these classic coin-op Star Wars arcade machines with the awesome flight styled hand controller. This was very revolutionary back then giving the thrill of flying/steering your favourite vehicles. These and the slightly later Paperboy coin-op arcade machine with the BMX handlebar was purely unforgettable stuff after school sinking hours into these games with friends. If you weren't a kid of the 1980s, you absolutely missed out on the best of decades for entertainment. Great video and repair job.
Thank you Mr Jones, I remember those days myself :) Thanks for watching!
@@LyonsArcade Haha retro games forever! Keep up the great work restoring these classic machines from a bygone era. All the best Joe.
I loved that game when I was young. Well done.
Thank you for watching Bob!
love watching board work it "looks" so easy then I try to fix something and the house is fire.
I just edit out all the bad parts :)
That "or did we" music gives me the willies like listening to a numbers station.
Back in the early 1980’s I was one of the repair techs for a computer store chain and we were still repairing most things not just swapping boards. I learned a lot from the senior guy, and he used that piggybacking chip method of troubleshooting. It even works for RAM chips, and if necessary you can piggyback 2 or 3 chips to overdrive a bad one. Back in those early days of the IBM PC, they actually used piggybacked RAM chips soldered together on some of their boards. One had an active low select line and the other had an active high select line so it actually used both of them. I assume it was done due to availability issues for 64K DRAM chips at the time.
That's pretty wild, I never heard of using more than 1..... makes sense though!
Dude, you just spoke another language lol. NASA called, they want their language terminology back.
@@JohnSmith-eq2tf Warning❗️ warning❗️ warning❗️ (Lost in space music starts)🎶🎵🎵🎶
Excellent review of your repair this was very interesting to watch I remember exactly when this game came out back in 1984 I was 15 years old then LOL
The good ol' days :)
@@LyonsArcade yeah most definitely and I really wish like hell I could go back!
Mr. Rogers of Arcade repair! I love that you make me feel like Im really there. You remind me of Mustie1!
Aw, thanks. I'm not as gentle as Mr. Rogers but like most of us he's one of my heroes.
I remember playing this in the arcades as a kid, I guess around the late 80s. It seemed so advanced and futuristic compared to the previous two Star Wars games.
A lot had changed in just a year or so between when they were made! Thank you for watching Don!
I cant believe how much stuff that is for just 1 game! Wow kudos. The cabinet alone, tv monitor, artwork, speakers, coin door. It's really just amazing.
Yeah they're really well built, lots of well thought out mechanisms...
Never played SW or ESB but when ROTJ came out, I played the living crap out of this in my small-town arcade. (Waxy's Wheel - Wolseley, SK, Canada). And I was pretty damn good at it, too. I would have been 11 or 12 years old (depending if it was '84 or '85 - can't remember which year it was). Anytime someone got the highest score on a game, the owner or his wife would write your name and your score on a piece of paper, tape it to the marquee, and they'd give you a free bottle of Coke or a bag of chips. Some of the best years of my life.
You have an amazing talent at fixing these machines. I couldn't do that if my life depended on me lol. Thanks for posting this and bringing back some cool memories. Keep up the great work.
Adam has some of the best arcades ever made, I’m jealous😂
Love your videos it amazes me you seem to always have the parts just sitting around. Thanks again
We've got stuff everywhere, LOL
Amazing video! I love the genuine care that you clearly have for these classic arcade games! All the best from The Netherlands!
These are awesome videos Joe! There's so much to learn from listening to someone step through the logic of troubleshooting electronics like this. Really great stuff!
Thank you for watching Crosswind!
love watching your repair approach. Very instructive. Regards from France.
Thanks Tonero, all the way in France! See you on the next video!
Huge thanks! My ROTJ had the exact same problems with scrolling and sound thumping. I changed out the same two chips and we’re back in business. This was a big help.
Another great repair. Really enjoy watching this stuff. Thanks, UK fan.
Thanks for watching Nigel we see you over there in the UK :)
G'day Joe,what a cool game! I've never seen this one before. Looking forward to seeing you play this one. Great work again by the way. Watchin' all the way from Australia
It's pretty rare, we never see them over here anymore either. Thanks for watching Darren!
All your vids are so informative and awesome. Just by watching your vids I have learnt about skimatics and how too read them. It helped me improve on my electronic repairs. So I really thank you alot for that.
No problem Daniel thank you for watching buddy!
I saw Return of the Jedi at the movies in 1983 but dont recall seeing this game in our arcades in the 80s-90s
Elvis arcade games repair man.
'thank you verymuch
Thankyou.... thankyouverymuch . LONG LIVE THE KING
This classic cabinet appears in the movie The Goonies, if you watch the extended version with the deleted scenes. This version of the film introduces us to the origins of Chunks Baby Ruth, he uses to win over Sloth, the burned map, and what happened to the octopus…it also includes this cabinet when they are heading towards the restaurant with rich stuff buried beneath.
I remember playing this at Eastport Plaza's Aladdins Castle in Portland Oregon. That was a long time ago in a galaxy far far away for sure.
Aladdin's Castle, what a throwback... we get games in from time to time with their label still on them, I think the local mall here in Rock Hill had an Aladdin's Castle back in the 80's too.
This was awesome. thanks for going through it.
Aw, we were well paid, so no problem :)
Wish we still had a store like yours here in Florida. I used to spend so much time and money there. Love the videos!
Thanks SuperFluffyFluff, we appreciate you watching, see you on the next video!
Those early 80s voice synthesizer chips are so cool.
Yeah they sound awesome! Thanks for watching Fyfoh!
OMG I remember playing this game as a kid :).
This may have been the same cabinet you played, did you scratch your initials on it anywhere I could check???? :)
loved this game as a kid
It's pretty cool! Thank you for watching!
You, Sir- are a Jedi, rescuing my youth.
Thank you.
Every time I played this machine at least one of the thumb buttons were broken, meaning the Scout Walker part was a lot harder. In fact only one that worked fully was the one I played at Rancho Obi Wan.
They're always broken on roadblasters too.... thank you for watching Number One Geek!
FAV 1st pinball machine at a Piny parlor hangout in OZ 🦘was bowling alley 10c in 70s loved it when a replay hit BANG went the trigger
Yeah those knockers are cool, they slapped the plywood :)
Man… I just discovered this channel a few weeks ago and it’s quickly risen to the top of my favorite things to watch. Where did you learn these skills if I may ask? You’re good man! I have extensive experience with scoreboards and PCs but you have a definite different slant to the stuff I’ve picked up over the years. Thanks for these videos they are great.
Thank you Will, we appreciate you watching! When I was a kid my brother and I bought an arcade game out of the arcade in the mall and tinkered with it a little bit, years later I got a job working for an operator and learned what it was like to operate games on location, and since then I've worked on buying repairing and selling games so I've picked up some tricks along the way, I'm glad you enjoy the videos!
@@LyonsArcade what game did u guys buy from the mall?
I want to play with it! May the force be with you.
Thanks Nico!
Another great video, very informative
Thanks Scuba, we appreciate you watching!
love this game ..played it all the time at my arcade fun n pizza...
Thank you for watching spartan X!
You are "Great" at showing what i think are obscure games!!!! Others always show nice games!!
Thanks John, we try to film whatever we get in that's a little different, that's for sure :)
Very interesting video. A couple of tips though, you should clean your soldering tip before each use and I'd really recommend using liquid Flux when you reflow cracked joints.
Keep up the great videos coming.
Thank you for watching Sean!
Great work again 👍🏼
Thanks Danijel!
You can add some RTV Silicone sealer around the bottom of heavy or bulky components like that width coil to make them more stable and less likely to break loose from mechanical shock. Large electrolytic caps also.
That's a good idea!
Man you do some nice work. I love watching these videos. I know shit about that stuff.
Thanks Ron we appreciate that!
When I was in my teen years there was a really nice arcade in the town of Fresno California call Festival game Palace and they had all the latest games in there they really kept up-to-date on the new stuff and we really enjoyed that place would like all the arcade that eventually just went out of style and although games that were really fun in there ended up at someplace called the Nickel Arcade 20 years later and sadly they don't maintenance him like you do the games all half work the screens are all faded and it's pretty sad I really enjoyed it would love to go back and reminisce and play them again
Dan I lived in Fresno from 1981 to 1986 or so, but I was a little kid and never went to an arcade then.... I have very fond memories of the city though, thanks for watching!
For the old CRT monitors, instead of unplugging them while testing I would reduce the screen current and defocus the beam as much as possible. You can still see if anything good is happening without worrying about burn in or over driving.
To say it is a 35 year old game the side art looks like it is brand new.
It was definitely in nice shape!
i have a 1985 crystal castles atari arcade machine with perfect art work Except for the marquee i had to replace it the old marquee looked like poop see what arcades use to do was is they would glue the marquee to a sheet of glass and then glue the glass into the frame for the marquee an ugly mess
It was probably right up against another cabinet or cabinets in a row of machines. Protecting it from cigarette smoke and light.
And that 4069, it was an RCA Chip, and I know in Old Synthesizers from 1975 to 1983 RCA Chips for Sound are not very reliable by any means back in the 80s, since ARP and Oberheim Synthesizers had problems with RCA Chips, so do check any Arcade Games or Pinball Machines if they contain RCA Chips, because they are known to fail often.
Thank you Jeffrey, I appreciate it!
Very informative video
Thanks Nick, we appreciate you checking it out!
Great video again
Thanks, from what I understand it's still doing it's think at the Beach on location :)
I love these videos!
Thanks Matt, see you on the next one!
Excellent.
great stuff man
Thank you CJ we appreciate you checking us out!
cool arcade!
Just so amazing all the terminology and everything you discussed wow really cool to quote monty python MY BRAIN HURTS you rock be well
Thank you Monty, that's very nice of you to say. See you on the next video!
Great repair video. I loved watching you troubleshoot methodically the issue. I just started to tinker with electronics. I need advice. I got this metal detector that keeps a constant humming when I turn on the power. Its ONLY suppose to HUM when your waving it over metal. Any ideas what this could be. I didn't see anything wrong obvious with the wiring or motherboard. I sprayed the potentiometers/knobs with electrical cleaner spray and worked the knobs back and fort... nothing.. still makes constant hum
Thank you for watching Daria, unfortunately I don't know anything about metal detectors.... i'm not sure what makes them work so i'd have to tear it apart and see if anything looked messed up but you've already done that! There may be some videos on here showing it though, good luck with it!
I don’t remember playing this game but I’m glad I got 2nd on the high score board. SGM lol
You're so good you don't even REMEMBER how good you are! now THAT's good!
Another good thing to use for replacement traces is used solder wick. If you don't have any, Make some! Just add molten solder to new wick! cut to length. Instant trace.
That's a great idea!
cool vid , nice fix
Thanks Griff!
I always thought they used really crappy speech samples. Just looked up the TMS5220. Never realised that speech synths were that versatile.
Yeah it's pretty amazing!
I am curious how the process with the coin being inserted interacts with the game and also how the movement of the controls interacts with the code. Also, I know what resistors are used for but why do some of those circuits have so many resistors?
I'm not completely positive how it works but you can check it out on the schematics if you'd like, they're available here: arcarc.xmission.com/PDF_Arcade_Atari_Kee/Return_of_the_Jedi/Return_of_the_Jedi_SP-227_1st_Printing.pdf
Also i'm not sure why so many resistors but you're right certain circuits have tons!
2:02 it sounds like a laundry machine!!!
They probably told him the yoke was bad and he thought it was the control yoke.
I never even thought of that, I think you're right!
When you went thru those sound samples, I noticed a handful of them that aren't used in the game. Not uncommon, but interesting. The arcade game gun.smoke has an entire round, complete with a boss and boss fight music on the circuit board that go unused. You have any idea why these arcade game companies did this?
The width coil is original OEM, that board takes either.
Since you ended up working a bit on the yoke controller, I have a question that has come up once in a while in my travels... To the best of your knowledge, is there a company that makes a reproduction/replacement yoke controller for this, or any of the other Atari games that used a similar controller? And other than the Star Wars games, where else was this controller used?
Man 1 company made them named "Ram Controls" and it was perfect, but unfortunately the guy was a scam artist and stole a couple hundred thousand dollars from people without shipping them anything. He's still selling stuff and never went to jail so it's considered bad form to give the guy anymore money (plus he may not ship it to you). I believe there was another company that recently started making a perfect repro as well but I don't have any info on them....
Fair enough... I'm working on a project for which I can see a demand for this type of control, and was hoping I wouldn't have to engineer it from scratch, and Originals belong with Original Cabinets... :-). I seem to recall a couple of DIY attempts to recreate this control from years and years ago, but I guess there wasn't enough demand... Might you consider doing a video at some point, detailing the inner workings of this particular control? (I remember running into an Atari rep shortly before the release of the first Star Wars game, and them gushing with pride about this new controller they had developed, but they couldn't describe it to me at the time because the game hadn't shipped yet...)
@@@SamsArcadeFix - Thank you so very much! This is better than what I might have expected... :-)
that's the one I was thinking of, I knew there was a new company making them. Looks great!
Was this machine a conversion from an older star wars cabinet or was it purpose built?
They were released from the factory like this, the original Star Wars cabinet looked very different.... thank you for watching Daniel!
How long have you been repairing pinball and arcade machines? The total amounts of years? I enjoyed the movie back in the day. But never played the game or remember seeing it.
My brother and I bought our first arcade game about 26 years ago, but we've been repairing and selling them for about 16 years now.
Never played jedi
But I used to play star wars in the arcade in scotland
Star Wars was a lot better, I've got one here I'm going to repair pretty soon I'll put some videos up :)
@@LyonsArcade
Thanks
Be good to see it again
How many atari games used that wheel control? I remember uhh outrun? Used it.
There were a few that used it, this particular one was on the original Star Wars and I think maybe Road Riot 4WD many years later.... they called this the Yoke controller... thanks for watching Message Deleted!
Outrun was sega
Hey! Where is the Amtech 559 at?
I don't know!
Or at least some kester 186.... haha. Love the vids.. wish i could have a turn at fixin' some....
i was playin with an old tube type console tv with the whole huge multi tube amp for the stereo record player an tv it had no hold on the horizontal so straight bar one side to the other (think thats right) anyhow it was running an the side of my hand crossed the no touch zone over one of the tubes booted me 6 foot back burned my hand and puffed my hair up
dont know what i did but it fixed it never had an issue with it after that
It stole a little bit of your soul so it could get back where it needed to be :)
@@LyonsArcade took onea my nine lives soto speak LOL
Huh???? Lol
@@JohnSmith-eq2tf i got electrocuted with several thousand volts which the muscle contraction literally kicked me away from the tv i was sitting on the floor behind thus like a cat with nine lives i likely used one up should have died
Maybe the Emperor possessed your game, and you got zapped like Luke did in ROTJ!
How much would this game cost me on the market right now? What’s a fair price to pay 💰??? Like to put one of these in my house ..
All in working order? At the very least $2000. Probably closer to $3K. They are rare and hard to keep working.
Do Star Wars: Racer Arcade.
Unfortunately we don't have that one, but if we get one in we will film it.
If it was a Death Star game it might be worth the time.
We're going to do a video on the orginal Star Wars game pretty soon....
Now you have 35K
Thank you man
oh!スターウォーズ！しかも アタリ製ですね(≧▽≦)日本は 出せなかったんですよ
フォース・ビー・ビー・ユー（≧▽≦）
フォースもらいました！(≧▽≦)
if you invested in something like an Osmo pocket so your video was not so shaky and made your videos a little more concise, I would definitely subscribe.
I will never do that
@@LyonsArcade fair enough,personally i just can't watch without getting a headache from the camera shaking all over. An Osmo is a relatively small investment to really take you video quality up a step.
Your crazy, that's the second time.
U was saying no big deal.
If u get electrocuted. When your ARM hurts for days. It's sucks
Hello..please try to fix your audio in your videos..they are very entretaining but audio is a bit low..
Hi Brownyysnoopy, it's the camera I was using unfortunately, I have new videos coming in the future on a new 1080 camera with much better and louder audio, so it will be fixed in a month or so when the new videos start uploading! Thank you for watching, we appreciate it!
@@LyonsArcade hey...keep making those repair videos...i do repair work on all my electronics and i miss from the good old day when manufacturers provided parts and diagrams for you to fix your own stuff..nowadays everything is a secret...they want you to replace rather than repair...and planned obsolecence is built into all electronics...
Do you not have a capacitance tester? Just test the caps, instead of replacing all of them like throwing crap at a wall to see what sticks.
I don't have one Sean, you're much better at this than i am. Thank you for watching!
@@LyonsArcade you can buy one on Amazon pretty cheap. It maybe a piece of electronics equipment that would benefit you greatly since you work on a lot of ttb boards.
Shotgunning lytics on a unit that is over 20yrs old is absolutely acceptable. Most of my time is spent in pre-1980 electronics and old paper is just a time bomb. Fantastic content!
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Lol @ 17:34 "I'm a weiner" @ 17:55 "so I'm gonna reach around the back". Hahahaha.
Dang I wish those stupid arcade 1ups let you adjust the color, brightness, and tint.
You'd think they'd have a menu somewhere, I guess they just want it to be as plug and play as possible.
Thump thump thump thump thump thump thump .... Nnniiiccceee vvviiidddeeeoooo Rururon ....... Thump thump thump thump thump thump thump
It was driving me crazy man
I wouldn't have bothered. I always hated that game! Only joking of course but even with MAME and endless credits I'm still rubbish at it decades on.
Definitely a very hard game!
Five different problems, good trouble shooting.
Thanks Daniel, we appreciate you watching!
This game was just a reskin of paperboy, wasn't it?
Maybe, i'm not sure. I think the boardset was completely different but could have used the same 'engine'...
@@LyonsArcade Engine, that's the right word for it. Thanks, Joe.
Really wanted to watch this, but could only make it six minutes in. The video quality is horrible. Sorry man.
have a good day Slappy