Testing MIT's Toroidal Drone Propeller Design & Sound

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  • Want to know how well MIT's Toroidal Drone Propeller performs. In this video we test the drone propeller design by MIT for educational purposes. How good is MIT's drone propeller? Does the Toroidal design sound any different?
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  • @JaysTechVault
    @JaysTechVault  ปีที่แล้ว +1224

    Full Feature Video: th-cam.com/video/C10XgojHu44/w-d-xo.html Also full credit to MIT and their fellow grad students for the basic design. I just used this for an educational video and to satisfy my curiosity, this prop was still heavily modified and different to accommodate the drone. These results are not entirely indicative of MITs real props.

    • @bleepbloopblop81
      @bleepbloopblop81 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Very interesting!!! Thanks for the videos!!

    • @1islam1
      @1islam1 ปีที่แล้ว +8

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    • @goranjosic
      @goranjosic ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@1islam1 why does every Islamic Republic in the world oppress minorities, women and people who think differently?! O_o
      Something isn't right here, on paper love but in reality pressure!

    • @BC-wj8fx
      @BC-wj8fx ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Viewers must realise that quite often there is automatic audio processing which makes the quiet sounds louder and the loud sounds quieter to even everything out.

    • @77thTrombone
      @77thTrombone ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Everything up to the "heavily modified" part was made clear in the video. Hopefully the MIT lawyers won't come after you.
      With no comparitive run of straight-bladed props, these did not jump out as quieter. I'm sure the acoustic devil is in the details-even the slightest variation can affect the results.

  • @vangoghsseveredear
    @vangoghsseveredear ปีที่แล้ว +25713

    "These are supposed to be quieter"
    *jet engine drone roars to life*

    • @Dropship11
      @Dropship11 ปีที่แล้ว +149

      Lmao lmao lmao

    • @East_Coast_Toasty_Boy
      @East_Coast_Toasty_Boy ปีที่แล้ว +249

      More like a swarm of bees.

    • @cadneemountai2791
      @cadneemountai2791 ปีที่แล้ว +145

      Lower frequency tho

    • @BackYardScience2000
      @BackYardScience2000 ปีที่แล้ว +384

      To be honest, this guy can't get the propellers smooth enough, balanced enough, or uniform. In other words, he's not good enough and doesn't have the proper equipment to make the design good enough to actually work right.

    • @cl3anfpv618
      @cl3anfpv618 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@iCantEvenButtonsGaming did you really just say "perfected propellers" 😭😭

  • @TS34675
    @TS34675 ปีที่แล้ว +15579

    If I recall correctly, their focus was on blade tip vortices and reducing the noise they generate. So to me the prop and all of its surfaces would have to be aerodynamically flawless, especially the blades edges and I think that is beyond the ability of a desktop 3d printer unless you intend to manually sand, shape and balance the blade to perfection during post processing. The nail polish would work to fill in the ridges, but you would need to dip the entire blade to achieve uniform cover and retain balance - the nail polish would also need to be self-leveling to fill in the ridges and provide a smooth surface and minimize sanding, balancing, and weight balance across all 4 rotors - when you're spinning that fast anything and everthing you can imagine will have a huge impact. They all work together to minimize noise while improving performance and efficiency, but the margin of error is very small.

    • @shable1436
      @shable1436 ปีที่แล้ว +1555

      In other words they need to be molded not printed

    • @3DRC-707
      @3DRC-707 ปีที่แล้ว +266

      100%

    • @chandrasekharlimit4547
      @chandrasekharlimit4547 ปีที่แล้ว +288

      The shape causes cavitation to occur in the whole length of the blade instead of the tip, which reduces the energy of shockwave produced which makes a quieter sound

    • @jeepmanxj
      @jeepmanxj ปีที่แล้ว +60

      It was mostly notable at higher frequencies as well.

    • @honkhonk8009
      @honkhonk8009 ปีที่แล้ว +122

      The toroidal propeller was also explicitly designed to be 3D printed, which was the method they used initially to create it.
      I feel that depending on how you design it, it probably can account for the turbulence from all the rough edges

  • @addledhead
    @addledhead ปีที่แล้ว +9268

    Proof that design spec doesn't matter if your manufacturing process can't deliver the required precision.

    • @ITX-EcoClass
      @ITX-EcoClass ปีที่แล้ว +427

      Are you saying my man's 3D printer ain't up to snuff?!

    • @jamiepierson7772
      @jamiepierson7772 ปีที่แล้ว +311

      Yeah the real ones are trash too, they just muted the sound in the video for their demonstration unlike his

    • @shadowkillz9606
      @shadowkillz9606 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      @@ITX-EcoClass yes

    • @Kylanto
      @Kylanto ปีที่แล้ว +582

      He said he modeled it himself, so we don't even know if he modeled it properly. In the paper, they specifically designed the shape to interact with the vortices it generates. It looked like the middle of the blades were thicker than in this video. This guy didn't even pronounce toroidal correctly.

    • @ThatOneGuyFromSchool
      @ThatOneGuyFromSchool ปีที่แล้ว +19

      ​@@jamiepierson7772 you would know

  • @Warrior.5804
    @Warrior.5804 ปีที่แล้ว +1925

    Idk why but I cracked up laughing with how he’s like “it should be quieter” and then when he starts to fly it it’s the loudest drone I have ever heard

    • @АлександрСемёнов-ч9ч
      @АлександрСемёнов-ч9ч 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Residents of Kyiv can hear drones louder.

    • @the_undead
      @the_undead 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      One of the problems is this person almost certainly does not have a 3D printer that would be capable of the precision needed to actually make one of these propellers to function correctly, these theoretical propellers take advantage of very specific fluid dynamic properties, so if you don't get the design almost perfect then they're completely useless,

    • @alainspirit2565
      @alainspirit2565 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      WAIT YOU YOU ARE A MOD FOR JAKERTOWN

    • @albetaylormade7400
      @albetaylormade7400 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😂😂😂

    • @cubee4108
      @cubee4108 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i live on kyiv and that made me wheeze​@@АлександрСемёнов-ч9ч

  • @vexed832
    @vexed832 ปีที่แล้ว +5977

    Its not quieter, but if you’re trying to scare someone away and they happen to fear bees…

    • @CK-wo1ly
      @CK-wo1ly ปีที่แล้ว +12

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @arcticowl1091
      @arcticowl1091 ปีที่แล้ว +93

      3d prints are not aerodynamic. This test is completely bogus and pointless

    • @epmcgee
      @epmcgee ปีที่แล้ว +57

      It doesn't hit the same frequency peaks, and they'd have to test actual decibel level to determine that but it does sound slightly lower.
      The main difference is this is a hobbyist trying to recreate something he saw without all the necessary data and equipment to do so.
      The design and tests MIT have done have shown a much larger decrease in sound. But beyond that, this design is simply more powerful. It pulls in a much greater volume of air.

    • @ericrebarchik4453
      @ericrebarchik4453 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Well, how do we know that? We need a comparison video

    • @cavedog1989
      @cavedog1989 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Beads?

  • @Enkidouh
    @Enkidouh ปีที่แล้ว +1015

    “It’s supposed to be quieter than traditional propellers”
    Cue category 5 hurricane

    • @cantan111
      @cantan111 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      they are made for boat impellers LOL inboard jet motors

    • @plebbin.
      @plebbin. 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      they are meant to put out 2x the pwer with 1.3x the sound this guy is an idiot

    • @lunchbox1553
      @lunchbox1553 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@cantan111 They're literally intended for use in drones to make drone based applications easier to be accepted in residential areas.

    • @88laserbeam
      @88laserbeam 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Anakin - ~~~ "I think it's working!!" ~~~

  • @Error-5478
    @Error-5478 ปีที่แล้ว +13906

    The design isn't the flaw here. It's the materials and manufacturing.

    • @zacharysherry2910
      @zacharysherry2910 ปีที่แล้ว +332

      The design really looks like an improvement overall

    • @anusual
      @anusual ปีที่แล้ว +96

      Thinking exactly the same

    • @FunDipFobs
      @FunDipFobs ปีที่แล้ว +369

      @@oslier3633 are you trolling? or… just not very smart?

    • @jameshenderson4094
      @jameshenderson4094 ปีที่แล้ว +524

      ​@@oslier3633 the 3d printer isn't precise enough, it looks accurate but small flaws mean a lot at high rpm, the stock blades are very very purpose made, despite technically being an inferior design

    • @oslier3633
      @oslier3633 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      @@jameshenderson4094 MIT used 3d printers.
      Also, precision just improves efficiency by a few percentages. This thing just sounds louder.

  • @Abdega
    @Abdega ปีที่แล้ว +1833

    Instead of sounding like a drone, it now sounds like a bunch of *_angry bees_*

    • @kawaiiLorenz1995
      @kawaiiLorenz1995 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Sounds like hornet chase. 🤣🤣🤣

    • @7XHARDER
      @7XHARDER ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This joke reminds me of that one trajedy... whats it called? Norm Macdonald?

    • @---------c5741
      @---------c5741 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its actually suppose to sound like a military helicopter

    • @andrewgates8158
      @andrewgates8158 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Have it drop black/yellow marbles.

    • @dexterdequoitdikkentheworl87
      @dexterdequoitdikkentheworl87 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      exactly my thought...a lot less top end frequencies though,
      mids n lows...

  • @fuqnzht
    @fuqnzht ปีที่แล้ว +381

    normal propeller: small handheld drill noises
    toroidal propeller: plays Flight of the Bumblebee

  • @bergfpv6486
    @bergfpv6486 ปีที่แล้ว +5841

    They sound about twice as loud. You should try ones printed on a resin 3D printer. They would be much smoother. I think it's the ridges that cause the noise.

    • @joshb6993
      @joshb6993 ปีที่แล้ว +257

      To me it looks like the outer geometry of the props isn't anywhere near what is currently under development. He's getting waaay too much turbulence by the sound of them

    • @conorstewart2214
      @conorstewart2214 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      ABS and acetone smoothing might work well.

    • @alexanderg-p3z
      @alexanderg-p3z ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@conorstewart2214 Exactly what I suggested on another of these videos.

    • @justsomeguythatlikesart
      @justsomeguythatlikesart ปีที่แล้ว +41

      From what I recall the official design isn't actually out yet for use, can't remember. So it's probably a custom build that only looks the same. Probably why it's having turbulence.

    • @BC-wj8fx
      @BC-wj8fx ปีที่แล้ว +56

      Automatic audio compression is one hell of a thing. You never know if what you heard was how loud it really was.

  • @DaveOganesyan
    @DaveOganesyan ปีที่แล้ว +54

    From a practical standpoint I will strongly recommend using a coating spray, even a clear one as opposed to nail polish because you will be able to achieve a thinner and more even coating that will have less impact on the balance of the propeller, lack of good balance on the blades may cause vibrations which in turn will cause more noise, reduce the aircraft's stability and potentially break the propeller over time because of the uneven load created on the blades.

  • @esolbdivad
    @esolbdivad ปีที่แล้ว +431

    Ah yes the final nail polish coating. The ultimate finish

    • @JPtheGamer650
      @JPtheGamer650 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ikr, why not just clear coat it? Like from an airbrush or simply an aerosol can.

    • @walkingweapon
      @walkingweapon ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@JPtheGamer650I'm guessing the nail polish lays down thicker to fill in the layer lines. Smooth finish.

    • @TGiFoosday
      @TGiFoosday ปีที่แล้ว +7

      If I print stuff with PLA or ABS that needs to have a better surface or be made stronger, I coat the part with Plastruct Plastic Solvent Cement. It's a very thin liquid that melts the plastic a little before it quickly evaporates, making the part sturdier and prevents it from layer separating.

    • @illitero
      @illitero ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@walkingweapon lays down thicker and dries quicker! hahaha
      I know things like this are born in communities for a practical reason, but at the same time it baffles me how consistently I'm seeing/reading instances of "smart" people doing "dumb" things without critical thinking or research - you know, using the intelligence that got them to that point to begin with, haha. They just _trust_ and awkwardly bungle through it. It feels like the same thing as watching people struggle with opening packages/unboxings or figuring out how something works, they're all fumbling impulse and no thought to _think_ and problem solve. I mean absolutely no disrespect to the guy making the video or anyone else, I admire expression of passion. But they're kind of like that one friend most of us have that are *always* closing car doors too hard, hahaha. They aren't _feeling, thinking, and reacting appropriately in the moment,_ they're just bad instinct/forethought from moment to moment. I don't understand how people can be so intelligent and interested in tech fields yet be so oblivious to physical reality.
      Anyway, I don't 3D print, but still speak from personal experience in expressing consistent dissatisfaction from trying to work with nail polish when thinking it would work for that exact expectation of smoothing out. I can't imagine that the added weight and globby imbalance are helping things after applying it with the nail brush in such short, stabby strokes like that. It may be a viable solution for impatient people working with small parts, but I have a hard time believing it works at all for this application. I wouldn't be too surprised if these issues contributed to the excess noise heard in the video.
      After the heat treatment, I presume that responsible application of a spray-on gloss coat would yield a considerably lighter, more even coating that wouldn't glob up to mess with balance and intended air effects of the design. Speaking of: the design he used and the design he showed are very different at the tips and it's killing me lol

  • @mushromboeinvading8168
    @mushromboeinvading8168 ปีที่แล้ว +1528

    FYI to anyone who's actually questioning if its quieter, just remember that the regular propeller was made of different material and designed for the drone, while the new style was 3D printed and is far from the perfect smooth blade it would normally be

    • @Deathblow85
      @Deathblow85 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      He wanted to compare right? So no these arent quieter

    • @JM-nm2ir
      @JM-nm2ir ปีที่แล้ว +90

      @@Deathblow85He wanted to compare the designs, yes. However, the manufacturing method for the two designs was radically different and involved different methods, materials, and levels of refinement.
      If you want to actually compare the two designs to see which is louder you need to use a decibel meter and you need to properly manufacture the blades, which includes a lot of fine tuning for balance, smoothing, and blade edge shaping. As other have also pointed out, the toroidal blade is likely not 100% accurate to the design it’s based on simply because the specs haven’t yet been released. Even a small inaccuracy can make a huge difference in things like this.

    • @joshbarr118
      @joshbarr118 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      He also failed to mention they made many different variations and are still testing it.

    • @mightymarlin97
      @mightymarlin97 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      ​@@Deathblow85He wanted to directly compare the designs as the only variable. He couldn't, so the results don't matter

    • @Deathblow85
      @Deathblow85 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mightymarlin97 so i think you actually understand, gratz! The test was broken, because he tested an trough and trough developed design with a not so tested one, and home made at that. So while I applaud this video and its creativity, the comments below it justifying the difference because of the materials used etc. Mean nothing to me, because it was like testing a round rubber wheel, versus a wooden square one.

  • @gurabirierosanopara620
    @gurabirierosanopara620 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I was not expecting to BURST OUT laughing

  • @imhungry2387
    @imhungry2387 ปีที่แล้ว +760

    That sounds about 8,000 times louder

    • @darkhseid
      @darkhseid ปีที่แล้ว +18

      maybe because it was built with the wrong materials and techniques?

    • @gjallarhorn456
      @gjallarhorn456 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Its not really louder. It's just a deeper tone vs a higher pitch. Would work better with diff materials and bigger, thinner loops

    • @AmAzingshortssz
      @AmAzingshortssz ปีที่แล้ว

      Who cares?🤓

    • @EthanJahnz
      @EthanJahnz ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AmAzingshortssz the point of these propellers is that they are supposed to be way quieter, which they aren't. Do you own a functional human brain?

    • @AmAzingshortssz
      @AmAzingshortssz ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EthanJahnz i dont👍

  • @cas8227
    @cas8227 ปีที่แล้ว +1257

    bro got trolled into putting a loudener onto his drone
    edit: no edit

    • @ninocraft1
      @ninocraft1 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      loudest drone in the ends

    • @dp055
      @dp055 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      😂

    • @dp055
      @dp055 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Loudener 🤣

    • @KingPhill87
      @KingPhill87 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "Loudener" genius 😆😆😆😆

    • @gdominguez5520
      @gdominguez5520 ปีที่แล้ว

      “Erharera to test it out”😂😂

  • @robinterheide5795
    @robinterheide5795 ปีที่แล้ว +230

    Would be interesting to see a comparison against 3D printed regular props

    • @jobjobbington6884
      @jobjobbington6884 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Exactly. Because if he designed his own regular props too people would see that he isn’t even aware of the airfoil shape in regular props.
      His design is just a flat surface so obviously it’s not going to be as quiet or efficient as an air foil.

  • @WillXtinger
    @WillXtinger ปีที่แล้ว +330

    "Loud" propellers: *slight whistle*
    "Quiet" propellers: have you ever heard of the word hurricane?

    • @timothychevrolet3067
      @timothychevrolet3067 ปีที่แล้ว

      @danny supersell have you heard of the triforce?

    • @murderlesson101
      @murderlesson101 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Have you heard about our lord and savior postal dude?

    • @SweetT00f
      @SweetT00f ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you heard of the high elves?
      Oh what am i saying, of course you haven't.

    • @davidmiles964
      @davidmiles964 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Loud" propellers: Now we FLY!
      "Quiet" Propellers: WE WILL BATHE IN THE BLOOD OF OUR ENEMIES!!!!

    • @woottastic
      @woottastic ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you heard the tale of Dath Plagueis the Wise?

  • @jesuslovesyou1881
    @jesuslovesyou1881 ปีที่แล้ว +1036

    that might be the most fearful sound u hear in the future

    • @hellcrow539
      @hellcrow539 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Unless your aiming is on point 😁

    • @LeviAckerman57551
      @LeviAckerman57551 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hahaha

    • @daniel8181
      @daniel8181 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah mit is trying to help kill a lot of people.

    • @schlobster3929
      @schlobster3929 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@hellcrow539 aim wont matter if theres a swarm of them 🫡

    • @TunnelSnake-es7tu
      @TunnelSnake-es7tu ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lots of ammo required

  • @Nothingness886
    @Nothingness886 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    "These are supposed to be quieter"
    Drone: *sounds like a swarm of Bees*

  • @andyhoughtaling6319
    @andyhoughtaling6319 ปีที่แล้ว +450

    You might also try to 3d print a set of replica props that are the same dimensions as the stock props, and compare the 3d printed toroidal props with the 3d printed stock replicas. Just for a more controlled test.

    • @conorstewart2214
      @conorstewart2214 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Or print the toroidal props out of ABS and acetone smooth them to get a very similar finish to the stock injection molded props.

    • @maksrambe3812
      @maksrambe3812 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@Conor Stewart isn't that what he did? The nail polish remover is acetone.

    • @alanhat5252
      @alanhat5252 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@maksrambe3812 he didn't say he removed the nail polish

    • @NoExceptions109
      @NoExceptions109 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      this^. a control would make this test way more useful

    • @Acidburn1155
      @Acidburn1155 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ​@@maksrambe3812the hell are you talking about nail polish is acetone? That's absolutely not true lol. Acetone is sometimes marketed as nail polish remover but I'm fairly certain a solvent wouldn't make the best nail polish

  • @JAB1978
    @JAB1978 ปีที่แล้ว +219

    Given the ridges on the props they're substantially louder. Smoother and more balanced blades will yield better results and quieter performance

  • @DS-lk3tx
    @DS-lk3tx ปีที่แล้ว +275

    This should be titled, "professionally manufactured propellers vs whatever I made."

  • @phinok.m.628
    @phinok.m.628 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Well, I don't know about it being quieter. But I do think it sounds a little less annoying, a little more muffled, less of the higher frequencies.

  • @somekid2091
    @somekid2091 ปีที่แล้ว +540

    3d print yourself a pop filter for that mic man holy shit

    • @calebcruz2812
      @calebcruz2812 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      💀

    • @MrTrevortxeartxe
      @MrTrevortxeartxe ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Lmao true 😂

    • @_..-.._..-.._
      @_..-.._..-.._ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      MIKE- 3d print a giant rose stem and lower yourself onto it, friend.

    • @goseyigo
      @goseyigo ปีที่แล้ว +7

      AYO 😭

    • @Niko_Malthus
      @Niko_Malthus ปีที่แล้ว +2

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @jorynickila7760
    @jorynickila7760 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    The new propeller legitimately sounds like an angry swarm of severely pissed-off yellow jackets..... I'll never forget that sound! It happened to me twice last summer and three times the summer before that. That's what happens sometimes when you rome the woods mushroom hunting....😅

    • @Oatskii
      @Oatskii ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Looks like you got a little more than you bargained for 😂

    • @jorynickila7760
      @jorynickila7760 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Oatskii Isn't that how it usually happens?

    • @RokU5
      @RokU5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Carry a racquet…

    • @MichaelSHartman
      @MichaelSHartman ปีที่แล้ว

      My sympathy. You can wait until they calm, or evening. Pour a cup to pint of gasoline in the hole, and put a sealing rock over the hole. After several minutes you can light it if you want. Yellow jackets are gone, and nothing will hatch.
      I do this in the yard where I mow, not in the woods. Don't light the hole around dead leaves.

  • @DemarcusQ
    @DemarcusQ 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You should put grooves on the long side of it so it tries to spread out the sound waves like the feathers of an owl.

  • @petermelnyk7664
    @petermelnyk7664 ปีที่แล้ว +1668

    Sounds just as loud

    • @thelespauldude3283
      @thelespauldude3283 ปีที่แล้ว +194

      They sound frequency is lower so its quiter from the distance

    • @vanceagher
      @vanceagher ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @@thelespauldude3283 though the sound will penetrate walls better. One reason I like my props is that they are so high pitched even the slightest obstacle blocks a lot of the sound

    • @beaclaster
      @beaclaster ปีที่แล้ว +6

      it sounds cooler tho

    • @MDM992
      @MDM992 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      if not louder~

    • @dolbyprologicii
      @dolbyprologicii ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@thelespauldude3283 isnt it supposed to be the opposite?

  • @acardenasjr1340
    @acardenasjr1340 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    On the upside, an Angry Bee sound maker sounds like a Lawn prop

  • @kuzadupa185
    @kuzadupa185 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    You read about a scientific study and with no outside motivation or help. You replicated it to the best of your ability! Dude this is incredible! Good for you. Hope you keep this up, this personal interest in science and the world around us.

    • @mikeyp0131
      @mikeyp0131 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Honestly it’s not hard at all to replicate something on a 3D printer

    • @Jordan-rb28
      @Jordan-rb28 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Not that impressive, especially when he did it so crudely, which made the props even louder

    • @kuzadupa185
      @kuzadupa185 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Jordan-rb28 you must be a lot of fun to the parties you're not invited to...

    • @kuzadupa185
      @kuzadupa185 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Mikeyp0131 the world's filled with people who like talking about how something could be done, or worst, how easy it is to do this or that, but there are far fewer people who DO the thing.

    • @tomcoryell
      @tomcoryell ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kuzadupa185 thank you! IOW, anyone can be a critic…..

  • @zacharysherry2910
    @zacharysherry2910 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Honestly sounded at about 30% louder for the first split second. There was a much lower frequency though and that would have a tendency to stretch much easier as it dissipated through the air, effectively rendering any sound dead at a certain distance.

    • @parthawijaya482
      @parthawijaya482 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sound like a fly near my ear

    • @domosrage5434
      @domosrage5434 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Which is impressive since he built an inferior version lol
      Now imagine what it'd sound like if it was made properly?

    • @sunvetr
      @sunvetr ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Low frequency sounds travel further than high frequency sounds...actually.

    • @zacharysherry2910
      @zacharysherry2910 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@sunvetr that's why my stepdad thinks he's not deaf now lol. He can only hear the low frequency sounds. He has the hearing ability of a tree.

  • @Danneleet
    @Danneleet ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "Let me show you how I made them: first they didnt exist, then they did. Now lets try them out"

  • @WildKat25
    @WildKat25 ปีที่แล้ว +234

    Honestly, the difference I can hear is that the new blades sound like a swarm of bees is coming for you.

    • @Rottypops
      @Rottypops ปีที่แล้ว

      Swarm of bees are much quieter after they sting you to death

  • @raymondkidwell2338
    @raymondkidwell2338 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    If you were going for the loudest small package to scare the the hell out of every living thing walking on this earth then I believe it was a success. Congratulations!!!

  • @RyanLesh-nj3yc
    @RyanLesh-nj3yc 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    your props : VRAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
    turboflex prop : AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

  • @CharlieApples
    @CharlieApples ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I appreciate a guy who understands the many different applications in which nail polish can be used. It’s also perfect for stopping yarn and fabric from fraying 👌

    • @cathuman5463
      @cathuman5463 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s crazy stuff. Spilled some at a Boy Scout camp once and paint thinner was not cutting it.

  • @WhiteBloggerBlackSpecs
    @WhiteBloggerBlackSpecs ปีที่แล้ว +37

    James Dyson: **laughs in 120,000 RPM**

  • @Shreeechan
    @Shreeechan 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Even if you really care about true volume of sound these aren't perfect so they aren't even but forgetting that the new design sounds a lot deeper and less annoying. Id honestly still prefer there sound over classic design even if they were louder

  • @td3993
    @td3993 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The General Electric Quiet Blade, developed in 1934, is pretty much the quietest blade you can find. Unfortunately, due to its broad size, it likely wouldn't work well as a propeller for an air vehicle. I believe that propellers are typically very slender so that they don't act as a sail or wall when they aren't pushing. The Quiet Blade, however, starts as a point and progresses to a blade scoop, and the blades overlap, though that isn't exactly essential for quietness, but it contributes a lot. Most modern fans, etc., do not use this blade, and so they are loud, obnoxious, inefficient. The Quiet Blade also pushes a lot more air than many other fan blades, and lacks all of the turbulence of other more basic blade designs. ILG of Chicago also made use of this blade a lot.

    • @thebandplayedon..6145
      @thebandplayedon..6145 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That was surprisingly interesting considering the topic, Cheers

  • @patman0250
    @patman0250 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    That was significantly louder.

  • @knotsure913
    @knotsure913 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    were you testing their propellor? or the one you designed to look similar in fusion?

    • @Vikanuck
      @Vikanuck ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Do you ask purposefully pedantic and rhetorical questions? 🤔
      He showed himself 3D printing it ya goob lol 😄🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @knotsure913
      @knotsure913 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Vikanuck you missed the point while you were deciding which cute little faces to add to your reply. he kept using those words "their propellor". we all saw him print it, friend. the point was where did he get the model he printed? because he made it sound like he just made something that looked close and went with it. you probably found this video informative.

    • @ramseydoon8277
      @ramseydoon8277 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@Vikanuck"do you ask purposefully pedantic and rhetorical questions?"
      Based on the available evidence, no, they do not. You might want to use a dictionary more often, friendo. There's nothing rhetorical about the questions they asked. And, given that the topic of discussion is aerodynamics & engineering & combined sciences & their real-world application, where it is necessary to consider and examine the minutiae and small details in an academic & scientific manner, what they asked was rather non-pedantic. Acquire a dictionary and incorporate it into your life.

  • @tomg193
    @tomg193 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Sounded allot louder than the original blades

    • @DinoAlberini
      @DinoAlberini ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s what I thought, but it could have been just sound compressed differently. He should measure it properly.

    • @MrIzzy5466
      @MrIzzy5466 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The problem is that it's a rough, 3D printed propeller vs a smooth, manufactured propeller. It's not a fair comparison at all.

  • @the_mexican_pyro
    @the_mexican_pyro ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Military drones are really loud so anything to quiet them would help. Patrolling and hearing wirring all of the sudden at 2am is quite the experience and really puts you on edge especially when you know it has thermal

    • @theRPGmaster
      @theRPGmaster ปีที่แล้ว

      I also think the new propeller design made less noise (even while being 3D printed), the video is misleading because the microphone normalizes loud noises, and if it's loud enough, it'll clip, which it sounds like the first one did.

  • @Intarius
    @Intarius 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Welcome back to the UK, we missed you ! ❤

  • @isaackay5887
    @isaackay5887 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I’d love to see this tested again after printing the props from an SLA/DLS (resin) printer like a Form2 or Form3

  • @kuzadupa185
    @kuzadupa185 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It would be interesting to mount these on a drone that has a more open interface that allows the operator to view the voltage being used by each motor and to compare which one uses more battery power...

    • @alanhat5252
      @alanhat5252 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      or simply set it to hover & time how long it takes to fall out of the sky.

  • @bobbiusshadow6985
    @bobbiusshadow6985 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    MIT students: “We failed”

  • @alberteinstein9176
    @alberteinstein9176 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Someone was smoking dead bugs. Those are 2 to 3 times as loud.

    • @RealShaggy
      @RealShaggy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well of course they are Albert Einstein, they were 3d printed lol.

  • @slvshy666
    @slvshy666 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    This whole thing is kind of blown out of proportion I think, the actual paper from MIT shows that the noise reduction is honestly kind of negligible. It's only a small amount of high frequency noise that was eliminated, none of the loudest sounds that traditional propellers make are really reduced. Not much of an improvement considering the design also looks like it would be heavier than traditional propellers.

    • @honkhonk8009
      @honkhonk8009 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The main advantage is the fact its designed to be 3D printed, and is more efficient.
      The fact its 3D printable alone, is good enough for me. That unironically opens the doors to alot of stuff

    • @slvshy666
      @slvshy666 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@honkhonk8009 I could see how it would be fun to tinker with, but fail to see how it's more efficient when the only difference in operation was the noise level. And it has a larger surface area without being much thinner so it's not more efficient unless the actual performance is better, which they didn't really seem to touch on.

    • @alanhat5252
      @alanhat5252 ปีที่แล้ว

      3dB increase is double the perceived sound

  • @YourAverage_J0e
    @YourAverage_J0e ปีที่แล้ว +7

    While I get that people found the new props louder, it is important to not that its more basey. Ive worked with drone design before and sometimes we would choose props that sounded less high pitch since they were less annoying and blended better with normal sounds humans hear for from a distance.

  • @georgecskate
    @georgecskate ปีที่แล้ว +37

    get this man a pop filter

  • @slime_katzu
    @slime_katzu ปีที่แล้ว +15

    that toroidal propeller sounds louder than the regular ones if you ask me

    • @MangoMotors
      @MangoMotors ปีที่แล้ว +3

      But thats because the making of it is not perfect. Not only is the design simply a guesstimated imitation (MIT did not release the proper dimensions and specs), the materials and manufacturing of the wings are also not the same (which can have a massive impact on something like aerodynamics).

    • @gregorykusiak5424
      @gregorykusiak5424 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is another video on the ‘Tube where someone compared the frequency spectra of the stock prop to their toroid - the toroid appeared to have reduced some of the more irritating and difficult upper frequencies. There was no correlation between reduced noise and flight duration, implying reduced drag or energy usage. I’d like to see how a toroid prop increases range/endurance, climb rates, max altitude…these types of thing.

  • @boi7316
    @boi7316 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You didn't make it quieter, you made it angrier

  • @theftking
    @theftking ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'll never understand how these obviously very smart people who design and print this stuff can't watch their plosives when recording a voiceover.

  • @grbradsk
    @grbradsk ปีที่แล้ว +12

    You need a sound meter comparison ... and also it would be interesting to somehow test whether they give you more fly time by being more efficient. Of course, it's hard to do an apples to apples compare on standard vs toroidal blades as far as length/weight ...

  • @Nomadmandude
    @Nomadmandude ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It removes the high pitch frequency that can literally bust your eardrums.

  • @iPsychlops
    @iPsychlops ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Do you have two print heads on the same printer to print duplicates? That's awesome!

  • @AGenericFool
    @AGenericFool ปีที่แล้ว +205

    They are very similiar
    Because the normal propellers are vrey well manufactured to less than 0,1mm deviance and are very smooth etc
    The 3d printed proellors, if oyu go down to the microscopic level, even with nailpolish are gonna be 100x rogher, whcih is why they are way louder thant they should be.

    • @tee1532
      @tee1532 ปีที่แล้ว

      the real propellors were literally 3d printed too

    • @JM-nm2ir
      @JM-nm2ir ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tee1532But there was also a great deal of time, effort, and money spent to produce machines that could refine that 3D printed raw product to be a smooth and properly balanced blade with the desired chord and AoA. Besides putting nail polish on his homemade ones, there doesn’t seem to have been anything done to rebalance and actually smooth out the blades, let alone actually working to ensure the specs matched the actual design in lengths, angles, chord, etc.

  • @Ellsswhere
    @Ellsswhere ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Watched another tuber try this with pc fans. Would love to see the actual MIT design to see how a refined design compares to peoples renditions of the model based on a photo.

    • @joshb6993
      @joshb6993 ปีที่แล้ว

      The outer geometry looks waaay off...

  • @RubiBablo
    @RubiBablo 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    To reduce noise you need to make the length of the propeller in 2 - 3 times more and increase the number of blades + increase the width of the blade depth, then they will rotate slower but pump a larger volume of air, it will affect the speed but noise will reduce by many times

  • @blfun3535
    @blfun3535 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    There's no way that's quieter than regular blades .

  • @KR15nAK
    @KR15nAK 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Makes it sound like a giant, angry bee. 😂

  • @macmcleod1188
    @macmcleod1188 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You need to use a decibel meter onscreen as both of these are taking off. Because recorded all video maybe automatically self-leveling. I use an app called sound meter that just present simple number.
    For example I'm sitting in a restaurant right now and the number is... 62 to 72, averaging 65.

  • @TerkanTyr
    @TerkanTyr ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Today I'll try to build the new NASA space suit.
    "Pulls out some scraps of denim, a used linen, an old foam mattress, a needle, and some thread.

  • @adakalyoncu1913
    @adakalyoncu1913 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Unless you are getting extra thrust or battery life, it is actually somewhat nice to hear the quad when it is flying. You can estimate where it is and also there is something that gives goosebumps about hearing the screach as you rip the sky

    • @cjwrench07
      @cjwrench07 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The MIT design is quite a bit more efficient, when perfectly balanced/smooth/designed/etc.. The lessened sound is mostly in the middle of human speech, so the range estimation frequencies aren’t touch.

    • @XiaolinDraconis
      @XiaolinDraconis ปีที่แล้ว

      You want goosebumps just think of all the children a silent drone could bomb.

    • @conorstewart2214
      @conorstewart2214 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@XiaolinDraconis drones don’t need to be silent for that. Just drop a bomb or rocket from high altitude and they will never know the drone is there. Or just use munitions that go over the speed of sound, you wouldn’t hear it coming either. Stop with the scaremongering around drones it is ridiculous.

    • @conorstewart2214
      @conorstewart2214 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think the point is not for recreational drones but more for commercial or cargo usage. Like if you are using a drone to record an event or to survey a building or carrying cargo, you would want it to have the least impact on people around it so reducing its noise is a good idea.

    • @XiaolinDraconis
      @XiaolinDraconis ปีที่แล้ว

      @@conorstewart2214 yeah but traditional drone bombings don't capture that delicious close up of the terror on their faces the second before the blast.

  • @843idfa
    @843idfa ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Just because you heard MIT doesn't mean there are no time-wasters over there.

  • @greenredblue
    @greenredblue ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "These were designed to be quieter, but the margin of error is very small."
    No worries, real world error and wear and tear have never been *critical considerations for engineering.*

  • @guitarshredddddder91
    @guitarshredddddder91 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Your new ones are 2 main mounts like a regular 2 blades spinner
    but there are two areas of lift to EACH blade...
    Therefore 1 blade has 2 lift surfaces
    There are 2 blade routes, but 2 blades per mount.
    Therefore
    These blue ones are equally a 4 bladed prop.
    & The high end has been removed from the frequency....
    Cool.

  • @ryanrester
    @ryanrester 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sounds like a “slightly” less angry swam of bees. 😂

  • @kingofdeer5337
    @kingofdeer5337 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    from what i understand, it’s not quieter, it just produces lower toned sounds so it’s less annoying

  • @erkl8823
    @erkl8823 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    might actually be louder, but lower in the high-end, which equals slightly easier on the ears.

    • @Bl4ckD0g
      @Bl4ckD0g ปีที่แล้ว

      That's pretty much been the case every time I see these. It just cuts the high end noise down so it isn't such a piercing whine.

  • @farhanfs2005
    @farhanfs2005 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i thought drone was attacked by bees and a hornet chase is loading ......

  • @RobnGG
    @RobnGG ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Gotta use the wishbone props that zipline made

  • @nef36
    @nef36 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    They're louder (likely because the 3D printer isn't capable of printing them to the specs necessary to eliminate noise), but I love the louder sound so much more lmfao

  • @razablanco3766
    @razablanco3766 ปีที่แล้ว

    The top end of the noise was gone, which is what mit was looking for. They were trying to make it quiter upclose obviously, but they were trying tomake it silent from a distance

  • @jerrydawg4434
    @jerrydawg4434 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Sounds the same lower pitch.....

    • @thecaybob1
      @thecaybob1 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      they're quieter from further away, they produce less high frequency soundwaves from the normal ones

  • @thecaneater
    @thecaneater ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My dude looking like Goose from Top Gun.
    Also, they sound horrible, louder even. Maybe if they were properly molded plastic that would help?

    • @JaysTechVault
      @JaysTechVault  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That’s what I say in my video

  • @Ervo
    @Ervo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For this type of thing it is better to use a resin printer, it leaves the surfaces very smooth

  • @RicardoMoreiraKrahnin
    @RicardoMoreiraKrahnin ปีที่แล้ว +7

    So.. you get 2 toys at home, a 3d printer and a drone and then you start to test and avaliate what people at MIT study for years.... youtube bring us big heros sometimes

    • @KaylaJoyGunn
      @KaylaJoyGunn ปีที่แล้ว

      The fuck are you complaining about? Do you produce better content? Is it cheaper than free? OK then.

  • @christianroman530
    @christianroman530 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is a perfect example of how one can be both bright and dim at the same time 😆

  • @ninelaivz4334
    @ninelaivz4334 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've seen genuinely quiet drone propellers where the blades are in a kind of tuning fork or wishbone configuration.

  • @joecanuck3751
    @joecanuck3751 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Its amazing what you can do when unencumbered by engineering, aerodynamics or proper understanding of airfoils. :^) ... Not that bad for a first kick at the cat though.

    • @alanhat5252
      @alanhat5252 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      please don't kick cats

  • @rulyu97
    @rulyu97 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That MIT degree was far ahead

  • @STEELFOX2000
    @STEELFOX2000 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    NICE!! The sound changed from a normal drone to a giant Bee!🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @SinOfDeletion
    @SinOfDeletion 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'd like to see a sound decibel reading on each type of propeller to see if they're actually quieter.

  • @iyadart
    @iyadart 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bro is testing the sound... Show us how well it flies!

  • @EJF-b6m
    @EJF-b6m 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    “They are supposed to make them more quieter”
    Drone afterburners kick on

  • @riyangreen13
    @riyangreen13 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Normal propeller: *Mosquito noise*
    MIT propeller: *Bunch of wasp trying to attack you*

  • @jtuttle11
    @jtuttle11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Annealing is the process of 'Softening' a material. If you want to add hardness to a material, the process is called 'Tempering'

  • @mightyakkylex
    @mightyakkylex 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bro at 1,5 yo I was speaking in full sentences 😂

  • @marcosdenizatrailhiker2037
    @marcosdenizatrailhiker2037 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I live in Phoenix, Arizona. I remember in the very late 60s someone reported a pterodactyl flying from Camelback Mountain towards South Mountain, a distance of about 25 miles, roughly. It was on the evening news and at the time I absolutely loved dinosaurs. I thought that was awesome, and every time I would go outside, I would look for that pterodactyl, lol. Apparently, that pterodactyl was stealthy, ‘cause I never saw it. 😅

  • @talldave1000
    @talldave1000 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sounds like a hive of 100,000 killer hornets

  • @WarBirdGhost
    @WarBirdGhost 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sounds like whole bunch of angry bees.

  • @Certified_Art_Teacher
    @Certified_Art_Teacher ปีที่แล้ว

    The heightened sound may be the cause of the small undulations from the printing filament and it may increase the drag as well. If the propellers were smoother, it may allow for a more quieter operation.

  • @ahmadsaepuloh8034
    @ahmadsaepuloh8034 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sounds like thousands of bees surrounding me

  • @ToXBear
    @ToXBear 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can’t tell if it’s quieter or louder, the reason I say this is because, if you hear a gunshot on camera with the regular gunshot then with a silencer it sounds like it’s the exact same decibel but just a different sound. I think it’s because the camera can’t actually register something that’s a super high or low decibel but rather just recognizes the noise it makes, so maybe even though the propeller sounds louder on camera, it’s just a different sound that makes it seem loud but in reality is a lot lower of a decibel.

  • @chrisb3976
    @chrisb3976 ปีที่แล้ว

    Went from a regular drone to Binford 5000XL Extreme. Tim the tool man Taylor would be happy. AAAAAR AAAAAR AAAAAR MORE POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @VestnikBuri
    @VestnikBuri ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Интересный пропеллер, помимо свой формы он менее шумный чем стандартный. Хотелось бы чтобы создали такой, который был бы вообще бесшумным)

  • @backyardanimals777
    @backyardanimals777 ปีที่แล้ว

    I nearly fell out of my chair expecting this quiet smooth takeoff...but...