How This Speaker Broke Physics.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 มิ.ย. 2024
- Ellis, the MKBHD audio producer, found a speaker that just broke the laws of bass. Stay tuned until 2027 for the next Ellis presentation!
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00:00 This Speaker Broke Physics
00:13 The Problem With Bass
01:41 What Gives a Speaker Bass?
03:13 How to Break a Rule
05:05 The Bassiest Bluetooth Speaker
05:53 So How'd They Do It?
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You can’t break physics, you can just find better way to use physics 🤓📝
Wait! you're 40 minutes late.
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@@NicoMontoya They even pinned it :/ RIP my luck!
Damn you just said another’s comment louder and it worked
That awkward moment when you realize you're watching an ad that isn't labeled as an ad.
About 10 minutes In?
Welcome to tech "journalism". This is the industry standard. The Verge, Cnet, etc etc all do the same thing.
Sponsor block extension is the answer
Lance Hendrick for coffee, you can watch an entire video without realizing he is selling a product for a company owned by the Breville conglomerate.
@@cheaddaca3532 does that exist?
I feel like I got suckered into an advertisement
I almost liked this comment, but then I watched the whole video
@@sj000if you learned something then you started out pretty dumb.
@@rcpmacif you already know everything why bother watching the video?
@@DaBrute because he probably thought there was something to learn. But instead we nothing more then an ad that didnt really explain what was going on.
he didnt test the thing, he didnt open it up, nothing
remember people, this is an ad
THis shiet is SMART
all youtube videos are secretly tools to permit drop shipping to unsuspecting viewers. If it was a small channel, it'd be a $5 light up bluetooth speaker, not a $500 theater speaker, but the premise is the same.
Thank you for NOT testing the speaker. That really was the best part.
Not even showing what was different.
right? their videos have been feeling so rushed and half-naked lately...
like I get that "youtube compression blah blah you can't hear what it actually sounds like"... but at least give us a little taste. with a good mic and headphones you can definitely get an idea if what it sounds like.
@adnamamedia What? This was a great video aside from not hearing the speaker.
Because it’s sponsored but not flagged as sponsored, which is extremely misleading
RTINGS have already tested the Brane X. Its nothing special... The battery runtime is sub-par. So basicly, this video here is just an ad :(.
instructions unclear, I bought the speaker and things are now floating around the room
Bass Canon, kick it!
Same I bought one and am now in the shadow realm pls help
What button turns gravity back on? Can anyone help?
Only this channel and unbox therapy have a video of this speaker.. that says alot . considering it's like a year old
Hahaha
The only laws that appeared to have been broken, are the failed morals of hidden advertising.
I call this an advertising. That was a complete "trust me bro" test product.
I was waiting for a audio sample of the speaker so that I confirm its bass while watching this on my phone.
Perfect inside joke!
Right, this speaker is so amazing, it makes recordings of it sound better.
Marques: Ellis, we gotta limit the rants on Waveform.
Ellis: I will not be silenced. (Studio video birthed)
lol I'm glad
Goodness. I waited for 10 mins for a demo on the speaker but there's none. What a huge disappointment!
There is no point in demoing a speaker other than irl.
You are not listening to that speaker, you are listening to the one in your device.
You would only be looking at a guy saying "oooh, that's a lot of bass", and the video already established that.
the only thing broken here, is the trust I had in this channel's titles.
David in the back one the vision pro😂
Paying homage to the latest Event 😂
😅😂
I wasn’t the one that noticed that 😂
“..first, we need to learn about how speakers actually work”.
Ellis is the David Imel of Audio. Confirmed.
lol exactly
I was thinking that too. We all require context.
@@samsam21amb love it.
"next we travel to Japan to meet the inventor of the speaker to ask him how he intended bass to be used"
it seems he still doesnt know how speakers work if he thinks that it breaks law physics
*Surprise! You're watching a commercial disguised as "information"*
Surprise, it's an Infomercial!
Wow this company must have a low opinion of their target audience.
That being said, I only buy from companies who are upfront, honest and credible.
0:34 "These speakers are the same size"
I'm not trusting this guy on physics 😂
He said they're "about the same size".
without plotting the frequency response, taking dB measurements (at 1 meter distance) and not mentioning the specs, this just seems like a standard marketing ploy.
the first two might not be something your familiar with, but the third you should definitely bring up.
otherwise there is a significant possibility that the price has a placebo effect for you, making you think the speaker sounds better than it actually does.
As the studio engineer for the last 20 years, I can cosign what he saying in that for a Bluetooth speaker. The base is insane. Now I haven’t measured the decibel however I can say it’s on par with our studio speakers that I use from mastering but it’s only, exceptional at base. The high in mid leave much to be desired for though they are above the average for a Bluetooth speaker, but not above the average for a Bluetooth speaker of that size by much.
yeah, this whole video is nothing but a clickbaity advert in disguise
its bass role of is at 150 hz Hardy Sub Bass
When the first statement was "This speaker breaks the laws of physics", I thought, "Oh, someone doesn't know physics... or speakers."
Exactly, there isn’t a single Frequency response even on their website. They just claim things, no data sheets.
Ellis has two things on his mind at all times: audio and dune 2.
Dune 2 was good, and way better than Dune 1 (which was average at best) but nowhere near "best movie ever".
The longest ad I have ever seen
Did I just watch a 10 minute ad on a speaker?
Ellis is the type of guy to actually BE all about that bass
With a balanced and even treble :p 🎶
This audio product follows a long time tradition of not breaking physics while still managing to break wallets. It probably sounds wonderful for a mono Bluetooth/plug in speaker that fits nicely in your backpac... eh, car.
The course on audio was so basic, skipped that, then I just got “special spring, extra magnets = more air movement” which doesn’t make any sense.
I had the fortunate "ultimate base" experience of being less than five feet away from a full grown male african lion during a photoshoot. Ralph was getting a bit cranky and let out a protest growl as if to say, "I've had enough of this shit for one day..." and refused to exit his enclosure when called. My entire 6"2" 235 pound frame reverberated with that growl and everyone else in the studio froze. It was an extraordinary form of physics to experience and almost felt electrically shocking! The handler just replied, "Okay, you're the boss, we'll head home."
Specs from the manual:
Amplifiers
Four class-D digital amplifiers
with combined output of over
200 watts
Sub woofer
One high excursion 6.5" x 9" (165
mm x 229 mm) R.A.D. subwoofer
for thundering bass and
sub-bass
Midrange
Two 2.5” (64 mm) midrange drivers
provide distinct stereo separation
in the mid frequency band
Tweeters
Two 0.75” (19 mm) dome tweeters
produce clear highs and an
ultra-wide soundstage
Microphones
Four waterproof microphones for
accurate voice recognition
Adjustable EQ
Adjustable bass, midrange and
treble via the Brane mobile app
Aside from it have an FPGA for the DSP, there's no mention of anything special in the manual.
Does it say the frequency response?
an FPGA is just a stack of programmable DSP "slices" in a trench coat, so that is not special either
@AluminumHaste In this case, "specs" clearly means "marketing hype."
No frequency response or polar response diagrams? I'm out.
PS: I also don't want or need any *speaker* that contains *microphones* so that's (yet another) red flag for this thing.
At 1:11, David's pretend working is so convincing, he should give lessons to the guy from the last Apple event!
Great host Ellis !
An electromagnetic force acting against air pressure difference. So you are telling me they've created a... dynamic driver?
Hmm, a permanent magnet forming a spring, with some electrical thing in it. Put a piece of cardboard on that "Spring" and youve basically got a speaker.
You know this kinda reminds me of Yamahas active servo tech, with its negative impedance thingy. Although that one actually has some stuff going on and the speakers I have with active servo do sound fantastic.
No mention is made how this so-called negative spring will change anything about the physics of the relationship between the thiele small parameters of the driver and the speaker cabinet. For any given driver and its parameters, there is a limit to what sound pressure level it can achieve without distortion if its inside an acoustic suspension cabinet. No evidence is provided that this speaker changes that limitation. What I suspect is going on is that the qtc is so high that a strong bass boost is provided in the bass frequencies most noticed by most listeners, thus giving the impression that the bass is extraordinary; even though the same could probably be achieved with an ordinary driver, given the proper ts parameters, with the same sized cabinet.
Don't forget adding extra "permanent magnets" around the back of it to counteract the effect of the air compression. I'll bet Brane engineers used to work at Bose, lol.
That's exactly it -- they're likely powering and providing equalization. That's it.
00:01 sorry there Bro, literally NOTHING breaks the laws of physics
If something does break the laws of physics, there will be new papers, scientific debates, and the science world will go crazy! Physics isn't all about truth, sometimes we learn the things that can be proven wrong in future!
For example, In the late 19th century, classical physics couldn't explain the spectrum of radiation emitted by a blackbody (an idealized physical body that absorbs all incident electromagnetic radiation). According to classical theories, the radiation intensity should increase without limit as wavelength decreases, leading to the so-called "ultraviolet catastrophe.
Another one can be that In 1905, Albert Einstein extended Planck's idea to explain the photoelectric effect, where light shining on a metal surface ejects electrons. Classical wave theory of light couldn't explain why only light above a certain frequency could eject electrons, regardless of its intensity. Einstein proposed that light itself is quantized into particles called "photons," each carrying a quantum of energy proportional to its frequency. This idea was revolutionary and eventually earned Einstein the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1921...
There are many more examples like these, and that's how science itself changes a lot based on our observations and calculation!
Was anxiously waiting for him to show the speaker disassembled or explain it's internal cavity design and speaker drivers
It's an advertisement. They don't want you to know how it works. They want you to buy it.
Have you seen that guy on youtube that made a rotary subwoofer? That thing reaches like 2Hz with insane power, enough to literally make cracks in his house walls, it's really cool
Sam "look mum no computer" Battle by any chance?
I have. I wouldn't call that a subwoofer since its not actually capable of playing any music. Its more of a low frequency resonance machine.
Yeah crazy stuff
@@SianaGearz No, it's Daniel Fajkis
Rebasses cam make that subwoofer have misical use
Is this sponsored content?
100%
Good question, now I’m curious as well!
Definitely has to be
Nope, otherwise they would have disclosed it.
@@Aeleas333 There wasn't even a demo of the acoustics, LOL. It was pure marketing materials delivered via "trust me, bro".
Cant believe I watched a whole video about a speaker without actually hearing the speaker. Maybe I watched it wrong
Or, just maybe, it makes no sense to record and replay a sound that your setup cannot reproduce right...
@@ABa-os6wm There are plenty of YT videos that can demonstrate great sound and sound effects. He didn't even try. Could've given a disclaimer about limitations with viewer equipment, etc.
Corrected title: "How this Speaker Used Physics"
david with the vision pro was so necessary for this one
If you want a bassy speaker then you don't want a good speaker. Bass Reflex speakers produce a longer lasting bass reponse that will remove clarity from the sound eventually. Acoustic Suspension speakers produce the best sound but they need beefier amps capable of getting the vibrating surfaces where they need to be. I don't have the money to get neither of those so I use Bass Reflex speakers. BTW, with modern digital amplifiers Hoffman's law doesn't apply - it did apply in 1961 when the only way to get good amps was by using vacuum tubes. Since the Tripath release the TA2020, digital amps became good with nice SNR and low distortions. Tripath was eventually purchased by Texas Instruments.
"Laws of Physics" aren't actually Laws - they are models that describe the physical worls as we perceive it. In the late 19th century Physicists were sure they could describe the physical world perfectly - with the exception of a few minos discrepancies. Thoser were the orbit of Mercury, the speed distribution of molecules in gases, the ultraviolet collapse when black bodies were heated and some weird black lines that showed up when a wide enough spectrography of light coming from stars were produced. The first problem (Mercury's orbit) was solved by Einstein's Relativity and the other ones by Quantum Physics. And even after that we still think we live in the in the Newtonian world ... a world where everything can be explained by simple mechanistic relationships. What made the world we live in turn into an improved version of Hell is the ideas propagate by Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan: The British PM made us believe there's no society just individuals while the former Hollywood B movie actor simply got a microphone and said "Greed is good".
Now we have problems that, if we don't fix them, will end human life on Earth - and these problems aren't linear and escape Math's ability to long term predictions. Meanwhile, we became linear bots who think how much money one has is the only measure of someones value.
hoffman's equation makes it clear you have to trade between size, bandwidth and power, _at a given efficiency_.
use a more efficient design, get more out of your speaker/enclosure combo.
this is achieving the same goal as existing servo subwoofers running in an under-dampened configuration.
Love the amount of love you guys are putting into The Studio channel 🔥
"Love the amount of love you guys are putting in this advertisement 🔥"?
**Ellis carries a "huge" subwoofer out of frame**
**me, realizes how crazy my home theater really is when he thinks thats "huge"**
For real. I have 15”s, those are big
As the owner of a full Marty 18" and svs sb3000, his idea of bass is cute.
@@mattb4251I have 2 JTR Captivator 4000ULFs in my home theater. 4 18s total, 520lbs of pure, house destroying subsonic bass. 110dB at 10Hz, 125dB at 20Hz. My first sub was an SVS PB-1000 I got on sale for about $400, bigger than that Genelec (although arguably not as good, better value for sure though). I'm willing to bet that Bluetooth speaker doesn't even have as much bass as my Wharfedale bookshelves.
Yeah. That was a tiny subwoofer. Mine isn't as crazy as the others in this thread, but mine with 4 ft³ gets me to subsonic.
Haha yup! I he was saying that I looked over at the PB16 Ultra. Little does he know 😂
6.5 inch 200 watt? That jawn has no subwoofer. Thats just a woofer.
200 what's, or 200 W PMPO?
You make kind of a promo video for a speaker and not even once you made the audience hear it compared to any other speaker 🤣🤣
I passed Ellis the other day on a street and he told me to watch Dune 2.
I'm an acoustics engineer, this was a very good video. Cheers guys
What in the frittata is an acoustic engineer?
except we didn't get to hear the damn speaker
@@engrademafiasit’s not like it would matter because TH-cam and your phone/computer wouldn’t reflect what it actually sounds like
@@peterlumwanga428 Clue is in the name, an engineer specialising in acoustics. I don't design portable speakers though.
If this is good then the bar for quality is set underground...
So, this is a 3 way portable speaker with DSP tuning from anechoic chamber calibration. Neat.
I am so impressed by the audio quality of this video. It's like he is talking to me in person, amazing audio work !
THE BACKGROUND JAZZ MUSIC SLAPS!!!!
The implied design sounds like a duplex speaker; 2 speakers face to face, one in phase and one out of phase. A push-pull setup.
That would just be a Ripol wouldn't it.
Yes, but it sounds like they're trying to do that magnetically, not 2 cones, but 2 sets of magnets.
I guess the morale of the story is to make sure you add "not sponsored" to your video or you will get endless unfounded hate comments...
I absolutely love how Ellis had to make a comment about Dune 2 at the very end 😂 I’m with you bro it’s the best movie ever
It would be awesome if these amazing new speakers were actually affordable. I mean i get it, it's breakthrough technology that's very expensive to R&D, but dang, $600 portable Bluetooth speaker? Thats actually crazy.
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3:04 You can read here that a ported box (a box with a hole in it) still counts as a sealed box. This is because the port increases the pressure that the speaker has to push against, when operating near the port's resonance frequency.
Loved this episode. Definitely one of the best studio videos I have seen. Thank you Ellis!
I really enjoyed this video style. It was really refreshing 👍
This has the best audio of any tech video I’ve ever watched
Those iLoud micromonitors are incredible for their size. I own three sets of them; one for my bedroom tv, one to compliment my mixing/mastering setup and a travel kit when I have to mix at other studios. They are my 'realworld' reference and I use them extensively.
this video has more marketing fluff about the speaker than actually talking about the speaker
What a cool video. Great job in explaining the more technical audio topics in a clear and concise way. We know it's not so easy 😉 Also, now I'm very curious how those speakers sound. I want to check them out!
If you are actually into audio engineering, you should know this video is bad. Because: without plotting the frequency response, taking dB measurements (at 1 meter distance) and not mentioning the specs - it's just (indirect) marketing ploy.
Look up rotary speakers. They're so potent that they'll literally put cracks in the walls of your house.
Like Leslies on a B3
planar magnetic IEM's have all three, at least when you plug them in your ears. Loud, bassy, small
9:33 the stream being uncompressed IS how they achieve such a low latency.
'Hey, let's make a video about this new innovative speaker with incredible sound and then NOT show what it sounds like!"
You can’t “show” what a speaker sounds like, you’ll just be hearing it through the speakers you’re playing this video on. Though perhaps he could’ve shown a visual frequency spectrum comparing it to different Bluetooth speakers.
@@aironorphan I do not agree. It's not an exact science, but if you use a particular set of speakers or headphones over time, you can begin to predict what a recorded speaker will sound like in real life. Plus, you can occasionally get a visual reference. For example, in this video, I would've put some small everyday items on the table and turned up the volume. Seeing the objects bounce around would be a great illustration of its power.
Woulda been nice if he explained how it is supposed to work, without the sales pitch version.
You want to hear this speaker test it irl, a recording of it's sound compressed by TH-cam listened to on your mobile phone doesn't make sense. It's like showing on TH-cam or Instagram a photo or movie made by a sensor with 234 dynamic stops and trillions of colors, no point.
@@REMY.C. I want to hear it compared to other bluetooth speakers, like many other channels do. I know TH-cam compresses it but I don't care, I want to hear it. Talking about a feature and then NOT showcasing said feature is what doesn't make sense.
@4:40 -- since when has a 10" subwoofer been a "massive" speaker? Most of the touring rigs I've used 15"-21" drivers. One of them had subs where each subwoofer had quad 15" drivers.
As someone that recently bought one, I am absolutely blown away at what it can accomplish. Would be fascinating to see a larger speaker from them with even more surface area, battery and amplification
One of the best quality and extremely creative video i have watched in a long time. Simply amazing!
this is a brilliant video. ellis, make more of these. this is so intriguing, and the editing and music is so chill.
it's a useless video - they don't even mention the supposed specs, let alone validate the claims. it's just marketing ploy.
@TheExileFox I didnt even know how speakers worked, much less subwoofers, before this video. Don't comment if it's just going to be negative 😊
YOU DID NOT EVEN TEST THE SPEAKER THAT YOU SPENT AN ENTIRE VIDEO PRAISING!!!!!! 🤯🤯🤦🏾♂
Never really used bluetooth speaker so much but some of them are really impressive in terms of sound quality and bass.
the audio quality of this video is absolutely amazing
The price 😭
Isn't it good TH-cam removed the dislike button.
4.9k dislikes at this time
😂
What good is testing the speakers going to do if you're not actually listening to the speakers but a recording of it played on your own speakers?
no actual specs on their website - I remain sceptical
Your explanation was really bad, you say the three factors are "small, loud, and bassy" and then you start talking about "efficiency" being one of the three factors.
Only 3 minutes in but I can say with certainty that we need more of this. Thank you.
Ellis, what a masterpiece of a tech video! Physics + product review in one is a GREAT idea. More like this!
You're incorrect about one of the three parameters of Hoffman's Iron Law.
It's not loud, its efficient.
How to make the most boring Speaker Ad disguised as a review.
As an audio engineer, I can confirm that this was a very enjoyable video to watch 💪💪 More videos from Ellis!! 🙌
Your joking right?
If you are actually into audio engineering, you should know this video is bad. Because: without plotting the frequency response, taking dB measurements (at 1 meter distance) and not mentioning the specs - it's just (indirect) marketing ploy.
That speaker bass is so good i didn't even notice it.
Why is this dude's default facial expression "cynically disgusted by smelling the nastiest fart"?
as a sound engineer . i'd appreciate you as my teacher
Your joking right?
If you are actually into audio engineering, you should know this video is bad. Because: without plotting the frequency response, taking dB measurements (at 1 meter distance) and not mentioning the specs - it's just (indirect) marketing ploy.
Best video made by any MKBD channel! Bravo!
your suggesting that MKBD's qualty dropped off a cliff because this video is pretty much just marketing ploy.
I cant tell if this is real or a really clever ad. Or a really good free ad bc you generally love this product
Wow...i tought i would hear it break that law but the only thing that happened is watching a advertisment of a commercial without the product demo
Ladies and gentlemen…French Stewart
Ellis, make more videos. You are one of the best audio production and engineering explainers on TH-cam. I'm in audio production too, and I've learned heaps just from the handful of vids you've made for this channel.
It felt more like a small passion project to me than an ad
In a past life, they were no such hidden advertisements but measurements such as directivity, response curves for various pressure levels, Total Harmonic Distortion (THD), efficiency......
Totally agreed, and I'm a dinosaur from that era too.
All that useful, objective measurement stuff went out of the window when Bose came into being LOL!
@@caddelworth Indeed and the situation is similar in many domains of science (including the vast majority of research papers). AI are fed with this insipid soup the WEB is becoming and in return add more rubbish data to the pool. According to me, the near future will likely look like "Idiocracy" or "Don't look up", not even sure Americans will be able to make it back to the moon, unless we suddenly find a way to use the new tools to clean the information mess, stop rights infringements, help real creators and built new consolidated scientific databases.
The production and direction of this video is insane. Really enjoyed it.
I'm not even close to being an audiophile, but you made this topic so interesting and fun to learn about!
I'm glad that my stereo was much louder than I thought 💥
Good thing I read the comments and saw the dislikes before wasting my time on this video
Would have been nice to have measurements on the bass production on that speaker.
My headphones #1 have a subwoofer in them #2 have a tweeter, #3 is loud, #4 have crystal clear quality. Plus they are wired.
Such amazing production and Ellis gets to rant about his favourite topic XD. Again…. Dude really enjoys his job he’s always so full of energy whenever he’s on screen
I really like when Ellis presents. It’s got a fresh take to it.
Could you shill my perpetual motion machine in your next video?
More of this please. I could watch stuff like this all day.
What a video Ellis, ticks all the boxes. WE WANT MOREEE!!!
I recently bought a Bose Micro Soundlink. On my first use, I got startled at the Sound emerged from that micro BT speaker. It produced real bass sound. Unbelievable. Also, the battery life is huge (the spec says 6hrs after full charging, but it delivers more).
Amazing audio engineering.