I have been using the same combo since day one with my Z6. Stunning is right. Color rendition is off the wall. Sharp sharp sharp. The bokeh is outstanding. Weighs nothing. My advice? Buy this lens. I also use Nikon 50 f1.4 non Ai, 24 f2.8 AiS, 85 f1.4 AiS. Old school can't be beat! The D lenses are awesome too. Especially the 180 f2.8D. People have wised up and they are getting hard to find. Keep looking. Good video!
I see why you like it too, it works REALLY well... much better than I thought it would for some reason. I really have not tried too many non Z mount lenses on the Z6, but this one has me looking in the cabinet... 😜😂📸
I compared the 2/85, the 2.5/105 and 2.8/135 on my D700 for astrophotography. With the 2.5/105, sharpness in the conrners sucks as compared to the other two. Even stopped down to the sweet spot.
Excellent David! Panning blurs with a manual focus lens, great job! I love the shot of the carta bus where you can see the driver. I’ve been meaning to review this lens since February when Heather bought it for me but I haven’t gotten around to it yet and now you have two reviews of it! Both of your reviews are certainly worth watching. I found this review very enjoyable to watch.
I liked that one too, panning shots with the 105mm are not easy either, I had WAY more culls this time opposed to keepers... seems you can EASILY outrun your subject with a longer lens for some reason. 😬📸
David Saylors I did not even think about the focal length I was too busy marveling at the manual focus part, but I bet it is difficult at 105mm. I think I have had my best luck at around 35-50 mm.
I can tell that lens is sharp. There were old brick buildings in your photo shots. I could even see the mortar between the bricks. Then on the Porsche car. When you took a picture of that emblem. I could see the metallic flakes in the paint.
Glad to see you here again!!! Yes, this lens stays in the ready area of my little office because of how much I love this lens! Just wonderful!!!👍📸 Thank you!!!
To my astonishment, Ted Forbes over at "The Art of Photography" rather sniffily declared: "AI/AI-S and AI converted Nikkors were designed to project light onto film, not a high resolution electronic sensor. They’re just simply not as sharp as their modern equivalents. I only recommend these if you’re super nostalgic or just being CHEAP. If its the latter you’ll get way better results using FILM". This is from the man who, hitherto, has celebrated stuff like Holga, pinhole cameras, box brownies, Lubitel and all that kind of stuff (which hipsters now embrace with a passion). I mean, I know Ted is given to a rather lofty modern art aesthetic (think Warhol; Quant; Bresson; "curating" photo collections; "MOMA", "Tate London" etc), but this statement rather undermines his carefully-curated persona as "art historian"; of tools being merely the servant of art - not the other way around. I used to like watching Ted's Channel, but now I'm wondering whether he's compromising his integrity.
Yes, I was wondering if he was contractually bound to promote a certain brand or some such at that time, it is a little uncharacteristic of him to say something like that. Good observation. 👍📸
"AI/AI-S and AI converted Nikkors were designed to project light onto film, not a high resolution electronic sensor. They’re just simply not as sharp as their modern equivalents. I only recommend these if you’re super nostalgic or just being CHEAP. If its the latter you’ll get way better results using FILM". This statement doesn't make any sense at all. But then again what do I know I'm only a Physicist.
this was my main reason to get the Z6 so i could utilise this and other manual lens there is something special about this lens - it took the "Afghan girl" photo
Yes, I agree completely. This lens is a must for anyone shooting vintage glass on a mirrorless camera. Not to mention the legendary photo as well. Seems he used this lens to take a bunch of iconic photos while he worked for Nat Geo over the years, but that one is the one. 👍📸
Thank you David. Like you, I'm an avid fan of these older MF Nikkors and get great results from them on my D810. But the Nikon Z System worries me with regard to MF Nikkors. For instance, how does the FTZ adapter (or the one you were using here) control the lens' automatic diaphragm lever so that it stops down to the aperture you (manually) chose? Have you used an AF-D lens on your Z6 yet? How does that work given that AF is lost using these lenses on Z Nikons?
The auto diaphragm lever is not in play with the plain adapter and you choose aperture manually on the lens. On the FTZ adapter, lenses that are chipped can be controlled by the camera. It works really well actually. The camera calculates exposure based on the histogram so it doesn’t need to know where the aperture is to meter. It is really handy to be honest.
Not that I can tell. It is representative of the exposure. So if the image is going to be dark, it will look dark. This is a problem when it comes to long exposures as it is trying to give you an accurate preview, but it just can’t get it perfect like that. As long as the shutter is faster than about 1 second, the display is pretty accurate though.
@@davidsaylors Good Lord! That's like going back to those old lenses with stop-down presets, only worse! I'll be sticking to my DSLR then (Ken Rockwell agrees).
Never shot Nikon, but dang these videos are fun to watch. When you pop up in Chattanooga, there is a building behind you, with a reflection of another building on it. Might make a neat shot some day
I got that same adapter for the same reason. Makes the kit more streamline and feels nicer in your hands. Didn’t know the IBIS could be activated. That’s a great tip! Wonderful images. Love that lens for portraits of my pets and the focus peaking makes MF so much easier. Been practicing with using peaking to estimate focusing action shots with the z6 too. And one last thing... What in hell’s acre was going on with that car???
Hahahahahaha!!!! That car was magic. I have no idea. 😂🤷🏻♂️📸I just headed a photo while I could! Thank you for everything, I really do appreciate it!👍📸
I am about to get one of these, already have the 105mm F/4 Micro Nikkor which seems to fetch a bit more, even though I get mine from a car boot sale in UK for £5.
That was the deal of the century! Any working Nikon macro lens for the price of a pint is a deal! Well done!!! 👍📸 These are all great lenses, I am sure you will love it.
When I was looking for something in the 100mm range, this Nikon was one of the lenses I considered, but ultimately wound up buying the Tokina 100mm f/2.8 which I've really enjoyed using. Both the Nikon and the Tokina get great reviews (including yours) on TH-cam, but I'd love to see a video that compares the two against each other in one video. My guess is that the photo quality would be about the same, making it come down to how important autofocus and macro capability - and maybe price are to the individual.
Yes, Phil should do that video, since he has both lenses already. I think you are right thought, they will probably look identical in the real world, but Macro is a nice option in the same lens. Too bad the Nikkor doesn’t have that function too... They do make a105mm f4 Micro as well, but it is not the same lens...
I just bought a 105 2.5 from Japan for my Nikkormat ft2 £60.Perfect. And it came in 14 days to the UK. I love it. I have a non ai 50mm f1.4 s-c and it's awesome.
Hours till I pay for an ebay 105. And I'm making sure a Fotasy adapter comes in the mail before I get the lens. I tend to buy an adapter for each of my vintage lenses and keep them on . The video on you looked good. Good skin tones and exposure.
I think that is a great idea. I don’t know why I never thought of it… It is an awesome little lens. I really like how compact it is for the images it produces. 👍📸 Thank you!
Hi David, I just wanted to let you know that those zone focus markers are not applicable on crop sensor cameras, only on those with full-frame sensors.
Can you explain why this is? The plain of focus on the sensor is exactly the same. The only thing that changed is the angle of view due to smaller sensor size, the distance to the subject is exactly the same regardless of sensor size.
@David Saylors I am not a photographic guru, but I suppose the crop factor plays a major role in determining what is in and out of focus. There is an abundance of treads on photographic websites/forums that discuss just this-how the differences between the two different sensor types affect depth of field. I tested it myself, on my D7200 and Nikon 35mm 1.4 Ais, using hyperfocal software. When I set the specs. to the above-mentioned equipment, the focus zones were way off. When I changed the camera setting to D800, which has a full-frame sensor, the focus lines/zones matched up correctly, as they would when using a film camera/full-frame camera. It must be the crop factor. I can’t think of what else it could be.
@@davidsaylors David, visit this page, www.photopills.com/calculators/dof/ Select D7200 for camera, 35mm for lens, f4 for aperture, and 10ft. for distance. Look at the Dof Near Limit and Dof Far Limit. Then, change the camera setting to D800 and you'll see those figures change. That confirms it, it has to be the sensor type.
Sometimes these things defy normal logic. It just doesnt make sense to me that if the lens was focused at 10 feet on a D810 then unmounted and mounted on a D500 and none of the settings were changed, that it would still be focused at 10 feet. This makes my brain hurt🥴 Thank you for raising this up to the surface. I appreciate it! 👍📸
@@davidsaylors David, if you set the focus point to 10ft it will be the same for both sensor types; this will not change. What changes is the depth of field. With a crop sensor, the DoF Near Limit is 8.36 ft. and DoF Far Limit is 10.45 ft. 10.45 minus 8.36 gives you a total depth of field of 2.09 ft. With a full-frame sensor, the DoF Near Limit is 7.72 ft. and DoF Far Limit is 14.19 ft. 14.19 minus 7.72 gives you a total depth of field of 6.47ft, which is over three times as much. A full frame sensor will always give you a greater depth of field, irrespective of where the lens is focused.
Hey David, I already bought the D780 so won’t be going to mirrorless anytime soon. However I’m curious whether it’s better or just different shooting the ais lenses like the 105mm 2.5 on z6 compared to DSLR. I saw another video from another you tuber who said that the z cameras can’t meter properly with the ais lenses because there is no aperture coupling via the adapters. What’s your take on that? I am loving the d780 but still curious about what it would be like to shoot my old manual lenses on the z system. Thanks !
I have not had a problem Z6 getting a good exposure, I just ride the histogram and run it based on that alone for metering, that way it doesn’t matter what the metering is, kinda like shooting in manual but with the ability of knowing if the exposure is right or not. It really is simple, to be honest. I thought it would be a problem, but it has not been yet. 👍📸
It depends on the needs and some on what you want. The f1.8 version is going to blur the background better of course, but the 2.5 is smaller and lighter. If you plan to shoot portraits with it, I would say get the 1.8. That is me though. 👍📸
Great video David. I have the 105 mm f2.5 but use it on my D850. I want to get into the Z system and have the advantage of IBIS for manual glass. Did you find the IBIS useful for this lens?
Yes, I can get sharp photos at ridiculously low shutter speeds on the Z6, like down to 1/15 or 1/8 second handheld!! Blows my mind how well that works to be honest. That D850 is a monster, I can only imagine how amazing the photos are with that combination. 👍📸
The 180mm beats it for compression and bokeh, so unless you need to get closer to your subject, this one won’t help you much. But getting new gear is always fun anyway... 🤷🏻♂️😉📸
I use the Photasy adapter and this lens with the Z7II and it is wonderful. Most famous lens in the world of the Afganistan Gal from National Geographic. Cheers!
@@davidsaylors David if you have the Z 105mm S or even the Z 50mm S they are both macro with autofocus. If you want to put it on your Leica well I'm SORRY! I would then get the Latest F Mount version with Auto Focus. Cheers!
It is a Fotasy brand adapter I ordered from Amazon. It is a simple adapter that couples a F mount lens to a Z mount camera with no electronics at all. 👍📸
Fotasy Nikon F Mount Lens to Nikon Z50 Z6 Z7 Camera Adapter, Nikon FTZ Mount Adapter, Nikon F Z Adapter, Nikon Z Adapter F Mount, fits Nikon F Mount Lens & Nikon Z Mount Mirrorless Camera Z50 Z6 Z7 www.amazon.com/dp/B003JFRVD2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_0wXrFbSWS8BT8 This is the one I use. It is just called Nikon to Nikon Z in the options menu.
Nice video. I wanted to buy a telephoto lens por portraits, I bought a 100mm 2.8 in April, but it hasn't arrived yet. Im still waiting. Hope dies last.
No I have not. I searched for the ships and they are no longer on eBay like they once were. I guess due to the fact that Nikon is moving to the Z mount now and these chips are designed for the F mount. Too bad as it did help with exif data and it gave aperture control to some of the lenses... It was a cool little device.
Let's see you demonstrate tight face portraits taken at the wider end of this lens. I want to see lots of iris detail and skin rendering to back up those claims.
We have a pixel pepper in here! We all know that if you need those photos that bad that you can get them EASIER with fancy new tech, but it can be done with these too. Have you, literally, not seen the famous image captured with of these lenses? 😂 I dont have to prove it, the lens already has 😉🤷🏻♂️ I do get your point though, people have become obsessed with ultra detailed irises in portraits. I understand you want them in focus, but most photos take it way too far with the whole “is it sharp” thing. Thank you!👍📸
@@davidsaylors 'Pixel Pepper' (Steve McCurry fan) replies: You can get those beautiful irises with the old 12MP D700 & D3s sensors (half the resolution of your Z6.) I also love the D3x output (the same sensor resolution as your Z6.) I'm very happy with old 2008/9 Nikon technology & older AF-D lenses. LOL
See, I knew you were cool...😎 I guess somebody has to bust my chops from time to time. 😉 Those cameras are really nice machines. I’m not sure how long you have been with me on here, but I love the DSLR system, my eyes and knees like mirrorless better though, so I listen to them. I still have my old D810 but I don’t shoot photos with it anymore, it has become my streaming camera... Thank you. 👍📸
@@davidsaylors I may surrender and get myself a used Z6 some time. I've just fractured my wrist (wearing a cast), so a small, light mirrorless would be nice right now LOL. More power to ya channel!
Once you get into the convenience of the mirrorless system brings to the table, mainly the EVF , smaller footprint, and IBIS... it was an easy choice for me. If you are open to other systems, I really like the XT3 for my general shooting camera, it has the side flipping screen, not like the new XT4 though, but it kinda kicks out to the side so you don’t have to lead down on the ground to get low angle photos. Works like a charm.
I just checked eBay for this lens. They aren't getting any cheaper and the 2.5 is getting harder and harder to find. Treasure what you have. I don't expect the mirrorless cameras and lenses to take the world by surprise like they predicted either.
Yes, BUT, it will need to have the mode in the camera called “Non CPU lens” set to the 105mm and f2.5 values. Once you do that the D850 will record the lens info in the metadata file. It will not autofocus but will give you aperture control from the command wheel on the camera if I remember right. It will make beautiful photos. Give it a shot!
I have the same lense of Ai version, used with D750. Really wonderful. I don't like to shoot quickly so any mf lense won't be a problem for me. Thanks for nice review. Keep going.
It is just that it is so “long” when it comes to snap shots that you end up having to back WAY up to get it to frame s subject that out feels impractical for street 85mm is almost too much.... It it a fantastic lens none-the-less and I won’t be getting rid of mine anytime soon.
Hey, I never said you could take a pic of my Ferrari 😂😂😂 I will have one someday hopefully, of course if gold keeps going up it may be soon! Nah, I would rather buy 10,000 acres in Montana or somewhere actually...anyway enough of my clowning around, that old lens isn't bad at all, sometimes on certain subjects it's nice not to have the razor sharpness of modern glass..I wish Nikon would go back to the built in metal lens hood ( now you have to buy a plastic hood after dropping 100's or 1000's on a lens! ) Stay safe and God Bless you and the family!!!!!!!!!!
I have this lens, but while I agree that this is an incredible lens, it is not a lens that is suitable for photographing movement. I think many of your photos in the video have missed focus, and also seems to be overexposed, giving a rather flat rendition of color and depth. You pointed out correctly that this is a great lens for portrait, as demonstrated by numerous National Geographic photos including of course the famous "Afghanistan Girl", but you did not show any portrait photos in this video. Sorry just the fact, not wanting to be negative.
You see, this is the down side to TH-cam. I do cull some photos, but most of the time, it is because I have multiples of the same image or the quantity does fit the video or what have you. They are not polished/retouched and only the perfect photos from the day. I feel that gives the viewer a disservice in the end, because they think this lens only produces perfect images because that is all the ever see in review videos. No street photog alive could go out and get that many random photos that were 100% bangers, to think that they do is preposterous. Not trying to be negative.
Hey David, thanks for another Georgia Photographer video..I enjoy them all..peace out
Thank you 👍📸
I have been using the same combo since day one with my Z6. Stunning is right. Color rendition is off the wall. Sharp sharp sharp. The bokeh is outstanding. Weighs nothing. My advice? Buy this lens. I also use Nikon 50 f1.4 non Ai, 24 f2.8 AiS, 85 f1.4 AiS. Old school can't be beat! The D lenses are awesome too. Especially the 180 f2.8D. People have wised up and they are getting hard to find. Keep looking. Good video!
I see why you like it too, it works REALLY well... much better than I thought it would for some reason. I really have not tried too many non Z mount lenses on the Z6, but this one has me looking in the cabinet... 😜😂📸
Just tried it after a long time - it's a great lens indeed, was pleasantly surprised by the sharpness at f/2.5.
This is one of my favorite vintage lenses just to be honest about it. Great little piece of kit and isnt too big either. It just works.
I compared the 2/85, the 2.5/105 and 2.8/135 on my D700 for astrophotography. With the 2.5/105, sharpness in the conrners sucks as compared to the other two. Even stopped down to the sweet spot.
Lucky for me that I dont compose my subject into the contests then😉 I still love this lens as it is glorious from what I have seen.
Great tip on getting a cheapo connector when using the fully manual lenses. Totally agree that FTZ is really bulky
For that application, the FTZ is overkill. 👍📸
Thanks for the review! Getting my Nikkor 105 f2.5 for my z6 tomorrow !
That is AWESOME!!! It is a wonderful pairing that will produce amazing photos!!! Congrats!!! 👍📸
Excellent David! Panning blurs with a manual focus lens, great job! I love the shot of the carta bus where you can see the driver. I’ve been meaning to review this lens since February when Heather bought it for me but I haven’t gotten around to it yet and now you have two reviews of it! Both of your reviews are certainly worth watching. I found this review very enjoyable to watch.
I liked that one too, panning shots with the 105mm are not easy either, I had WAY more culls this time opposed to keepers... seems you can EASILY outrun your subject with a longer lens for some reason. 😬📸
David Saylors I did not even think about the focal length I was too busy marveling at the manual focus part, but I bet it is difficult at 105mm. I think I have had my best luck at around 35-50 mm.
Phil Thach me too. The shorter the focal length, the easier it is for some reason. 👍📸
I can tell that lens is sharp. There were old brick buildings in your photo shots. I could even see the mortar between the bricks. Then on the Porsche car. When you took a picture of that emblem. I could see the metallic flakes in the paint.
longtime no see David！ this 105 is one of my fav lens it just beautiful in everyway
Glad to see you here again!!! Yes, this lens stays in the ready area of my little office because of how much I love this lens! Just wonderful!!!👍📸 Thank you!!!
keep up the great reviews! I’ve owned that lens for a few years and use it on a D750 it’s absolutely incredible..
I agree, this little lens is exquisite and you are completely right, it would be amazing on the D750! Thank you!!!
To my astonishment, Ted Forbes over at "The Art of Photography" rather sniffily declared:
"AI/AI-S and AI converted Nikkors were designed to project light onto film, not a high resolution electronic sensor. They’re just simply not as sharp as their modern equivalents. I only recommend these if you’re super nostalgic or just being CHEAP. If its the latter you’ll get way better results using FILM".
This is from the man who, hitherto, has celebrated stuff like Holga, pinhole cameras, box brownies, Lubitel and all that kind of stuff (which hipsters now embrace with a passion). I mean, I know Ted is given to a rather lofty modern art aesthetic (think Warhol; Quant; Bresson; "curating" photo collections; "MOMA", "Tate London" etc), but this statement rather undermines his carefully-curated persona as "art historian"; of tools being merely the servant of art - not the other way around. I used to like watching Ted's Channel, but now I'm wondering whether he's compromising his integrity.
Yes, I was wondering if he was contractually bound to promote a certain brand or some such at that time, it is a little uncharacteristic of him to say something like that. Good observation. 👍📸
"AI/AI-S and AI converted Nikkors were designed to project light onto film, not a high resolution electronic sensor. They’re just simply not as sharp as their modern equivalents. I only recommend these if you’re super nostalgic or just being CHEAP. If its the latter you’ll get way better results using FILM".
This statement doesn't make any sense at all. But then again what do I know I'm only a Physicist.
@@Zerja Quite so. What he said was utter nonsense. Maybe he gets freebie lenses from the industry.
There should be a penalty for dispensing BS on utube. Older glass was built for pro use. Who is Ted?
@@Mojave511 A poseur.
It’s one of my favorite lenses. There is some special sauce in this thing I’m convinced. 👍🏻
I agree. They got this one and the 28mm Ai-S perfect. Those are both keepers. 👍📸
this was my main reason to get the Z6 so i could utilise this and other manual lens there is something special about this lens - it took the "Afghan girl" photo
Yes, I agree completely. This lens is a must for anyone shooting vintage glass on a mirrorless camera. Not to mention the legendary photo as well. Seems he used this lens to take a bunch of iconic photos while he worked for Nat Geo over the years, but that one is the one. 👍📸
Thank you David. Like you, I'm an avid fan of these older MF Nikkors and get great results from them on my D810. But the Nikon Z System worries me with regard to MF Nikkors. For instance, how does the FTZ adapter (or the one you were using here) control the lens' automatic diaphragm lever so that it stops down to the aperture you (manually) chose? Have you used an AF-D lens on your Z6 yet? How does that work given that AF is lost using these lenses on Z Nikons?
The auto diaphragm lever is not in play with the plain adapter and you choose aperture manually on the lens. On the FTZ adapter, lenses that are chipped can be controlled by the camera. It works really well actually. The camera calculates exposure based on the histogram so it doesn’t need to know where the aperture is to meter. It is really handy to be honest.
@@davidsaylors Thank you. Isn't the viewfinder awfully dark when trying to compose the shot when the lens is at f/8, as here?
Not that I can tell. It is representative of the exposure. So if the image is going to be dark, it will look dark. This is a problem when it comes to long exposures as it is trying to give you an accurate preview, but it just can’t get it perfect like that. As long as the shutter is faster than about 1 second, the display is pretty accurate though.
@@davidsaylors Good Lord! That's like going back to those old lenses with stop-down presets, only worse! I'll be sticking to my DSLR then (Ken Rockwell agrees).
Never shot Nikon, but dang these videos are fun to watch. When you pop up in Chattanooga, there is a building behind you, with a reflection of another building on it. Might make a neat shot some day
Cool, thanks for noticing the photo opportunity, I will go back and watch it to see what you are referring to. I really appreciate it! 😉👍📸
I own this lens and use it with my D780. A fantastic lens. Great on the optical using focus recompose. Better in live view using focus peaking.
That is great to hear! I do love my little 105! 👍📸
I got that same adapter for the same reason. Makes the kit more streamline and feels nicer in your hands. Didn’t know the IBIS could be activated. That’s a great tip! Wonderful images. Love that lens for portraits of my pets and the focus peaking makes MF so much easier. Been practicing with using peaking to estimate focusing action shots with the z6 too. And one last thing... What in hell’s acre was going on with that car???
Hahahahahaha!!!! That car was magic. I have no idea. 😂🤷🏻♂️📸I just headed a photo while I could! Thank you for everything, I really do appreciate it!👍📸
Awesome lens. The Nikkor 105 f1.8 is pretty awesome too.
Thanks bro!
I have never seen one of those, it sounds like a nice lens though, thanks!!! 📸👍
@@davidsaylors www.ebay.com/p/102682496
Been thinking about one of these for my F3
You will absolutely love it. It is a wonderful little lens.
I am about to get one of these, already have the 105mm F/4 Micro Nikkor which seems to fetch a bit more, even though I get mine from a car boot sale in UK for £5.
That was the deal of the century! Any working Nikon macro lens for the price of a pint is a deal! Well done!!! 👍📸 These are all great lenses, I am sure you will love it.
When I was looking for something in the 100mm range, this Nikon was one of the lenses I considered, but ultimately wound up buying the Tokina 100mm f/2.8 which I've really enjoyed using. Both the Nikon and the Tokina get great reviews (including yours) on TH-cam, but I'd love to see a video that compares the two against each other in one video. My guess is that the photo quality would be about the same, making it come down to how important autofocus and macro capability - and maybe price are to the individual.
Yes, Phil should do that video, since he has both lenses already. I think you are right thought, they will probably look identical in the real world, but Macro is a nice option in the same lens. Too bad the Nikkor doesn’t have that function too... They do make a105mm f4 Micro as well, but it is not the same lens...
@@davidsaylors Yes Phil - please do a comparison video, as I don't think one exists!
I will tell him.👍📸
Love my 105mm f/2.5, it really is an amazing vintage lens
I can’t believe they are still as cheap as they are on eBay... just amazing little lens for the money. 👍📸
@@davidsaylors Shush, quiet now!
I know, RIGHT!!!😬😳📸
I just bought a 105 2.5 from Japan for my Nikkormat ft2 £60.Perfect. And it came in 14 days to the UK. I love it. I have a non ai 50mm f1.4 s-c and it's awesome.
I gotta get me one of these-
It is a wonderful lens. 👍📸
Great images, just starting to play with vintage lenses
Thank you! This is a great Len’s to play with. Small, light weight, renders beautiful character, what more could you ask for?
Love those Ais Lenses ...🦘
Hours till I pay for an ebay 105. And I'm making sure a Fotasy adapter comes in the mail before I get the lens. I tend to buy an adapter for each of my vintage lenses and keep them on . The video on you looked good. Good skin tones and exposure.
I think that is a great idea. I don’t know why I never thought of it… It is an awesome little lens. I really like how compact it is for the images it produces. 👍📸 Thank you!
Hi David,
I just wanted to let you know that those zone focus markers are not applicable on crop sensor cameras, only on those with full-frame sensors.
Can you explain why this is? The plain of focus on the sensor is exactly the same. The only thing that changed is the angle of view due to smaller sensor size, the distance to the subject is exactly the same regardless of sensor size.
@David Saylors I am not a photographic guru, but I suppose the crop factor plays a major role in determining what is in and out of focus. There is an abundance of treads on photographic websites/forums that discuss just this-how the differences between the two different sensor types affect depth of field.
I tested it myself, on my D7200 and Nikon 35mm 1.4 Ais, using hyperfocal software. When I set the specs. to the above-mentioned equipment, the focus zones were way off. When I changed the camera setting to D800, which has a full-frame sensor, the focus lines/zones matched up correctly, as they would when using a film camera/full-frame camera.
It must be the crop factor. I can’t think of what else it could be.
@@davidsaylors David, visit this page, www.photopills.com/calculators/dof/
Select D7200 for camera, 35mm for lens, f4 for aperture, and 10ft. for distance. Look at the Dof Near Limit and Dof Far Limit.
Then, change the camera setting to D800 and you'll see those figures change. That confirms it, it has to be the sensor type.
Sometimes these things defy normal logic. It just doesnt make sense to me that if the lens was focused at 10 feet on a D810 then unmounted and mounted on a D500 and none of the settings were changed, that it would still be focused at 10 feet. This makes my brain hurt🥴 Thank you for raising this up to the surface. I appreciate it! 👍📸
@@davidsaylors David, if you set the focus point to 10ft it will be the same for both sensor types; this will not change. What changes is the depth of field.
With a crop sensor, the DoF Near Limit is 8.36 ft. and DoF Far Limit is 10.45 ft. 10.45 minus 8.36 gives you a total depth of field of 2.09 ft.
With a full-frame sensor, the DoF Near Limit is 7.72 ft. and DoF Far Limit is 14.19 ft. 14.19 minus 7.72 gives you a total depth of field of 6.47ft, which is over three times as much.
A full frame sensor will always give you a greater depth of field, irrespective of where the lens is focused.
Hey David, I already bought the D780 so won’t be going to mirrorless anytime soon. However I’m curious whether it’s better or just different shooting the ais lenses like the 105mm 2.5 on z6 compared to DSLR. I saw another video from another you tuber who said that the z cameras can’t meter properly with the ais lenses because there is no aperture coupling via the adapters. What’s your take on that? I am loving the d780 but still curious about what it would be like to shoot my old manual lenses on the z system. Thanks !
I have not had a problem Z6 getting a good exposure, I just ride the histogram and run it based on that alone for metering, that way it doesn’t matter what the metering is, kinda like shooting in manual but with the ability of knowing if the exposure is right or not. It really is simple, to be honest. I thought it would be a problem, but it has not been yet. 👍📸
Nice photos! Were those people on top of the vehicle at 5:41?
No, they looked like mannequins from what I could tell. That was really bizarre to be honest.
Do you recommend this one or the Nikon 105 f1.8 AIS, which is better???
It depends on the needs and some on what you want. The f1.8 version is going to blur the background better of course, but the 2.5 is smaller and lighter. If you plan to shoot portraits with it, I would say get the 1.8. That is me though. 👍📸
Great video David. I have the 105 mm f2.5 but use it on my D850. I want to get into the Z system and have the advantage of IBIS for manual glass. Did you find the IBIS useful for this lens?
Yes, I can get sharp photos at ridiculously low shutter speeds on the Z6, like down to 1/15 or 1/8 second handheld!! Blows my mind how well that works to be honest. That D850 is a monster, I can only imagine how amazing the photos are with that combination. 👍📸
@@davidsaylors Awesome; thanks David. Ill hang out for the Z6ii now!
That camera will be worlds ahead of mine, I just wished Nikon would make a screw drive adapter to focus those older lenses... but I digress. 👍📸
@@davidsaylors No I agree. I have the 35 mm f2 AF d Would love the z's to be able to focus these lenses. I might keep my D850 for that reason.
I see. Sorry for the misunderstanding there. Yeah, that is one of the reasons I still have my D810 as well... 👍📸
May need to pick up one of these...🤔
The 180mm beats it for compression and bokeh, so unless you need to get closer to your subject, this one won’t help you much. But getting new gear is always fun anyway... 🤷🏻♂️😉📸
David Saylors doesn’t hurt to have two of the same lenses!
I know that’s right! 😬📸
I use the Photasy adapter and this lens with the Z7II and it is wonderful. Most famous lens in the world of the Afganistan Gal from National Geographic. Cheers!
Yep, and like an idiot, I sold this copy... now I must find another one.
@@davidsaylors David if you have the Z 105mm S or even the Z 50mm S they are both macro with autofocus. If you want to put it on your Leica well I'm SORRY! I would then get the Latest F Mount version with Auto Focus. Cheers!
Which adapter model are you using? Hard to hear in video.
It is a Fotasy brand adapter I ordered from Amazon. It is a simple adapter that couples a F mount lens to a Z mount camera with no electronics at all. 👍📸
@@davidsaylors So is that the Fotasy NK-N/Z model?
Fotasy Nikon F Mount Lens to Nikon Z50 Z6 Z7 Camera Adapter, Nikon FTZ Mount Adapter, Nikon F Z Adapter, Nikon Z Adapter F Mount, fits Nikon F Mount Lens & Nikon Z Mount Mirrorless Camera Z50 Z6 Z7 www.amazon.com/dp/B003JFRVD2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_0wXrFbSWS8BT8
This is the one I use. It is just called Nikon to Nikon Z in the options menu.
@@davidsaylors awesome thank you for the video!
Thanks for letting me know!!! 👍📸
I have this lens and it is my favourite telephoto portrait lens. Great combo with the Z cameras.
It is an awesome little lens. I it hard to believe they could pack so much into such a tiny package too.
Nice video. I wanted to buy a telephoto lens por portraits, I bought a 100mm 2.8 in April, but it hasn't arrived yet. Im still waiting. Hope dies last.
I hope it comes in for you soon!!! 😳😳😳 what brand was the lens? Tokina?
@@davidsaylors nikon
That is going to be a good one. You will love it. 📸👍 Are you wanting it for portraits or macro?
@@davidsaylors if it arrives, lol 😂
Love my 35mm lens for street photography. I'm glad you didn't say knee-kon
Haha. Yeah, I am an American…. We say it right around here. Haha. 😂 Thank you!!!! And happy shooting!
What adapter did u get for the manual lens ?
It is a Fotasy brand simple adapter from Amazon. It actually works really well.
Thanks for the video. Have you put a dandelion chip on this lens?
No I have not. I searched for the ships and they are no longer on eBay like they once were. I guess due to the fact that Nikon is moving to the Z mount now and these chips are designed for the F mount. Too bad as it did help with exif data and it gave aperture control to some of the lenses... It was a cool little device.
love it man I got it to and shoot Nikon d780
That is a great combination. Thank you!!! 👍📸
Let's see you demonstrate tight face portraits taken at the wider end of this lens. I want to see lots of iris detail and skin rendering to back up those claims.
We have a pixel pepper in here! We all know that if you need those photos that bad that you can get them EASIER with fancy new tech, but it can be done with these too. Have you, literally, not seen the famous image captured with of these lenses? 😂 I dont have to prove it, the lens already has 😉🤷🏻♂️ I do get your point though, people have become obsessed with ultra detailed irises in portraits. I understand you want them in focus, but most photos take it way too far with the whole “is it sharp” thing. Thank you!👍📸
@@davidsaylors 'Pixel Pepper' (Steve McCurry fan) replies: You can get those beautiful irises with the old 12MP D700 & D3s sensors (half the resolution of your Z6.) I also love the D3x output (the same sensor resolution as your Z6.) I'm very happy with old 2008/9 Nikon technology & older AF-D lenses. LOL
See, I knew you were cool...😎 I guess somebody has to bust my chops from time to time. 😉 Those cameras are really nice machines. I’m not sure how long you have been with me on here, but I love the DSLR system, my eyes and knees like mirrorless better though, so I listen to them. I still have my old D810 but I don’t shoot photos with it anymore, it has become my streaming camera... Thank you. 👍📸
@@davidsaylors I may surrender and get myself a used Z6 some time. I've just fractured my wrist (wearing a cast), so a small, light mirrorless would be nice right now LOL. More power to ya channel!
Once you get into the convenience of the mirrorless system brings to the table, mainly the EVF , smaller footprint, and IBIS... it was an easy choice for me. If you are open to other systems, I really like the XT3 for my general shooting camera, it has the side flipping screen, not like the new XT4 though, but it kinda kicks out to the side so you don’t have to lead down on the ground to get low angle photos. Works like a charm.
I just checked eBay for this lens. They aren't getting any cheaper and the 2.5 is getting harder and harder to find. Treasure what you have. I don't expect the mirrorless cameras and lenses to take the world by surprise like they predicted either.
Hello
I mont this lens on Df
Z6 seemms to flatten pictures
Interesting. The DF is an awesome camera. 👍
Hi, can this lens work on D850. Thank You!
Yes, BUT, it will need to have the mode in the camera called “Non CPU lens” set to the 105mm and f2.5 values. Once you do that the D850 will record the lens info in the metadata file. It will not autofocus but will give you aperture control from the command wheel on the camera if I remember right. It will make beautiful photos. Give it a shot!
@@davidsaylors
Thank You so much. I will try today.
South Carolina?
Georgia
I have the same lense of Ai version, used with D750. Really wonderful. I don't like to shoot quickly so any mf lense won't be a problem for me. Thanks for nice review. Keep going.
Thank you. It is a wonderful little lens. I am a lot like you in the MF ideology. I dont shoot fast either so manual glass is not a problem. 👍📸
I’d think that using this lens for walking around is great.
It’s my understanding that it’s how that NatGeo photo journalist got the Afghan girl pic.
It is just that it is so “long” when it comes to snap shots that you end up having to back WAY up to get it to frame s subject that out feels impractical for street 85mm is almost too much.... It it a fantastic lens none-the-less and I won’t be getting rid of mine anytime soon.
That was the 105 f/2.5 nikkor lens.
Hey, I never said you could take a pic of my Ferrari 😂😂😂 I will have one someday hopefully, of course if gold keeps going up it may be soon! Nah, I would rather buy 10,000 acres in Montana or somewhere actually...anyway enough of my clowning around, that old lens isn't bad at all, sometimes on certain subjects it's nice not to have the razor sharpness of modern glass..I wish Nikon would go back to the built in metal lens hood ( now you have to buy a plastic hood after dropping 100's or 1000's on a lens! ) Stay safe and God Bless you and the family!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks! Your right, a car or a ranch??? I know! For you, BOTH!😂🤷🏻♂️ Your ot there in God’s country already... Thanks again I appreciate it! 👍📸
@@davidsaylors true, but I would love to buy 10,000 acres and put me a cabin in the middle and live with the Grizzly Bears and Bald Eagles
You can charge your camera with solar power too. 😉📸 😂
@@davidsaylors sounds good to me!
I figured you would like that. 😉
"Hot Rod AF" :)
😂 I say some funny things from time to time.
I have this lens, but while I agree that this is an incredible lens, it is not a lens that is suitable for photographing movement. I think many of your photos in the video have missed focus, and also seems to be overexposed, giving a rather flat rendition of color and depth. You pointed out correctly that this is a great lens for portrait, as demonstrated by numerous National Geographic photos including of course the famous "Afghanistan Girl", but you did not show any portrait photos in this video. Sorry just the fact, not wanting to be negative.
You see, this is the down side to TH-cam. I do cull some photos, but most of the time, it is because I have multiples of the same image or the quantity does fit the video or what have you. They are not polished/retouched and only the perfect photos from the day. I feel that gives the viewer a disservice in the end, because they think this lens only produces perfect images because that is all the ever see in review videos. No street photog alive could go out and get that many random photos that were 100% bangers, to think that they do is preposterous. Not trying to be negative.
What in the world was that weird car?
I have no idea, it just rolled through the intersection and I happened to get a couple of quick photos before the light changed. 🤷🏻♂️📸
I got this lens. It's nice and all but I still like my 135 2.8 series E even better than this one.
Reviews a portrait lens
Doesn't take a single portrait...
Did you want to see portraits of a review of a lens … on a lens review video. 🤷🏻♂️😂
Really sharp lens? Compare whit 24-70 f2.8?