Diane, The Narcissistic Mother Just Got More Disturbing...Part 2
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- In the past we've looked at video by a mother I consider to be very narcissistic, whose daughter cut contact. Just as it didn't seem like it could get worse, it has...
Diane gives extreme, offensive and far fetched answers to the question of why her daughter doesn't want to speak to her.
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She's literally out here showing why her kids don't talk to her
She keeps owning herself. It’s really sad.
Lol kids plural? I know about the daughter who cosplays, but are other siblings fleeing too?
@@RedNymph234pretty sure she mentioned there was a younger daughter that joined a monastery
@@kab2599Not really sad, because sane people see right to her BS.
Imagine, she were a bit smarter and more in controle of her mask....
She could go for years uncovered and cause much more harm.
@@RedNymph234 Think she has another daughtet who joined a buddhist monastery that has strict visiting guidelines!!!
Imagine getting up and making a powerpoint about why people should deal with you instead of just being a nicer person
Wow, exactly!!
Defensive much?
@@rachelturgeon114no but your comment was! Spotted the control freak who has no control.
😂😂😂 💯 it's everyone else's fault no one wants to be around her😂😂😂
@@irishhoopers6899 yeah ! It’s NEVER the narcissists fault !
Social media is dangerous, except when I want to monetize the airing of my family dirty laundry on TH-cam...🙄
Exactly! 🤣
Brilliant that's the best comment today!!
She wanted to peer pressure her daughter but it backfired. Thank goodness.
Hypocrisy on steroids 😂
I fully believe that this entire video campaign is a result of her daughter "making her look bad" both within her family and on her tiktok. This is revenge.
This woman's poor daughter. Imagine living with such a person for years of your life. She's insufferable.
She reminds me so much of my own 😭
@@amandasunshine2 Yes. I was worried she might trigger a lot of people in recovery from parental narcissistic abuse. Wishing you peace. 🤍🕊️
Sadly, not that rare.
And, after all the abuse, get abused publicly so, potentially billions of people witness her abuse.
@@amandasunshine2 SAME
The irony of Diane talking about the weaponization of therapy speak
Typical narcissistic projection. Prime example!
Came here to say that, but you beat me to it. 😂 🎶 Isn't it ironic? 🎵
Or the weaponization of racism when she is a racist
Right?? Astonishing.
and then immediately pelting us with pseudo intellectual buzzwords like "collective behavior reinforcing cycles of fear and isolation"
For narcissisitic parents there are no boundaries. "You belong to me son/daughter. You are mine." Once a child starts setting boundaries, big trouble ensues. You have no choice but to remove yourself from the situation for the sake of mental health.
my parents' *literally* said i was an extension of them & if i wanted to be housed/clothed/fed i'd do/say/think what they wanted 🙄
@@r_and_aI never realized that I was so lucky I was only a reflection of my parents not an extension quite but I think that that was only the discrepancy between their understanding and the reality.
@@r_and_ahow's it going, brother?
@@sunnyadams5842 as i got older & more confrontational they replaced "extension" with "reflection" as that was somewhat more defendable language for them but it was just repackaging of the same mentality 🙄 too bad for them i'm a hyperlexic autist whose lifelong special interest is cognitive sciences so still called them out, lol, unfortunately my c-ptsd, etc made it far more difficult & long to separate from them than it should've been
it's so strange how so many narcissistic parents literally share the same word choices so often! when my adult child was little people would praise my parenting in such a weird way presuming i must've had good "examples" 🤣 yeah, *great* examples of what NOT to do! hence, though no contact with most relatives, have a wonderfully close relationship with my own offspring 💚 best wishes with your healing journey
You become the enemy of the narcissistic parent because you dared to separate & individuate 🤦♀️ something they never can accomplish since that train left the station in childhood & they weren’t on it ❤️🩹
Imagine how bad it should be if we only hear mother's side of the story and still root for a daughter.
I follow her daughter. I will not share her identity for her privacy. Diane's daughter never mentions her mother ever. You wouldn't even know it was Diane's daughter. Her content is 100% focused on her creativity through fashion and cosplay.
@@melaniebell8115and I bet that drives dianne crazy. Because, according to the dianne, only she is allowed to be young, creative, and beautiful. And, how dare her daughter be those things! Obviously that makes her a NatSoc.
@@melaniebell8115 she sounds like someone I could learn from. recovery is HARD when your own mom is stalking you
@@melaniebell8115funny how you say you care about her privacy - yet you tracked her down?? Smh 🤦🏻♀️
@@00st307-m 🤡
We are watching her here with discomfort. I cannot fathom having her as a mother. She will never learn, or change. She _likes_ being this way.
I think that's an important point!
Yes. She truly thinks she's in the right.
The husband just like her?
She does a gotcha look😂
@@MegaFluffy17maybe Yes. Or, he is manipulated as usually happens.
The woman who alienated two daughters thinks she can tell everyone else how to live.
Oh god. It’s two? I can’t even watch these videos in their entirety.
Shades of Meghan Markle and Prince Hank. The tone deaf condescension and raging hypocrisy just turns my stomach. Feels too much like home.
@MadScientistCrochet well, her other daughter is in a monastery, so I'm assuming she wanted to withdraw from something..or someone. Of course, she might have a true vocation, but at the very least, it's a coincidence.
@@gretarobinson1142 It's extraordinary, isn't it, that she and her husband have *two* kids who don't want anything to do with her ... and she still hasn't figured out the pattern, here.
Wait wait... 2 daughters??? Both kids are no-contact?!?! Wow!
Imagine doing all of this “research”, filming, and editing when you could just apologize. 😂
Clearly she doesn’t really want any authentic relationship with her daughter, she just wants to win.
Yes, exactly!
@@LiveAbuseFreeOMG you answered! Thanks for all that you do! As someone who is estranged from her family, your channel has been very healing for me.
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In her own words, it requires too much contrition 😂
Yup! 😑
I'm not an expert but I think it takes a special kind of psychology to compare your kid going no-contact with you to the Holocaust.
Right!
another commenter likened this to a drug addict jonesing for her fix. I suspect her drug of choice is *control*
@@HomeFromFarAwayand she is jonesing!! You're right!!
Jesus Christ... I have no words... Except this is definitely a woman who has never in her life experienced actual oppression
This is such an important point @@RedNymph234
I think that Diane's politics are not separate from her being a cruel person. She had made it clear that her and her husband's politics belong to party of cruelty. There are millions of people like her in the USA who think there is nothing wrong with their legislating their discrimination.
So, her daughter gets therapy, finds the strength to go no contact, creates a positive community on Tiktok. Diane "its therapy and tiktoks fault, not mine". Where's the introspection? She's a lost cause
Narcissists don't have the capacity for introspection. It's always other people who are at fault, not them.
Narcissist arent capable of introspection hence why her daughter left her a heartfelt letter of her feelings and Dianie said "Recieved." Dianie will blame spongebob SquarePants and everyone in the bikini bottom for manipulating kids before taking accountability of bad parenting
She’s a lost cause and a great exhibit of why sometimes, no contact is the only healthy thing we can do.
Let’s just talk about how she’s doing nothing but complaining and whining on social media. Talk about the pot calling and the kettle black.
Narcissists are not capable of being self aware. Anything to project the blame on something or someone else. Its too painful to look into the abyss they have created that they live in everyday. They have to wear the mask or project in order to cope with that darkness they cant face.
Each time I click on a video with Diane, it's like traveling to a parallel universe.
It IS a parallel universe with Diane in control at all times.
Imagine a country living in it.
And to think there's so many people like her 😩
We're on the verge of a political implosion where the Diane's take all the rights away from the rest of rest of us. So, it might not be just imaginary content on our phones amusing us much longer, but a stranglehold on our own lives that people like this are imposing
Shared delusions
The look of disgust when you talk about her nonsense is priceless 😂
That stunned open mouth. 😂 Classic.
She’s all of us
I've never seen her make any effort to reach mutual understanding or connection.
Mutual, you know like when you are forced to interact with an abuser and they feel satisfied with the results. That’s not genuine engagement???
She is totally disconnected of reality.
You knoooww, mutual understanding, where people understand her position and everyone else except her is wrong. it's giving "Mother Knows Best" from Tangled, but like way worse
Because you're not one of her targeted fools of an estranged parent that she can grift money from. lmao
Exactly. Everything she says prevents understanding or connection of anyone not like her.
Remember in her first video when she said she “wasn’t that political”? Ma’am, everything you say is political. It’s just right wing rhetoric packaged in a way that makes her feel better about her own behavior…
she's an endless example of projection, gaslighting, DARVO, & pretty much all classic narcissistic tricks
She doesn't think of herself as political because she's hetero and the "political stuff" in her daughter's email was just queer stuff. Diane took that and radicalized herself as far away from her daughter as she could.
Amen!
When she said, "it's Ted, I'm not even that political," I swear I saw her nose actually grow. That was SUCH a lie. I thought she hid it pretty well, just at first, but it's so hard to maintain....
Right... She doesn't have "dissenting" views or opinions, she literally belongs to the dominant group.
When she says “overemphasize personal boundaries at the expense of mutual connection” what she means is “the doormat scapegoat child in a dysfunctional family is no longer playing their role and hurting the family”.
The longer she talks, the more clearly she displays her narcissism. And the fact she doesn’t see is just another checkmark on the list.
It may seem like Diane is living her best life right now but believe me she isn’t. She is obsessively trying 24/7 to maintain a facade. She is obsessing over a daughter who will never be in her life. Try to imagine having an addiction to something that gives you no release when you get it. That’s Diane, stuck on a mental hamster wheel in a state of anxiety she can’t even admit she has.
Clearly Diane by posting all of these videos, like she's a mental health professional is wrong and ruin any chance of a reunion with her daughter I do feel sympathy for Diane, because it has to be horrible not to speak with or see your daughter 4 years.. my husband and I would be devastated if it happened to our family
@@karagibson7534 fortunately, it never just "happens" to families...it's years of prolonged psychological, emotional, and sometimes other kinds of abuse, often hidden behind masks & the secrecy of (an unsafe) "home"
@@MayaGTK Exactly! You keep it from "happening" by being a decent human being and not abusing your offspring.
This is a great comment.
hungry ghosts...
Who else struggles just to look at her face?
🙋🏼♀️
@@Veronica_1683 Good to know I am not alone.
Same
Me. So much me! It makes me feel like my skin is crawling and I’m gonna toss my cookies 🤢
Diane is literally my mother’s twin except for my mother had no issues pretending I’m dead. She told me years before I went NC not to talk to her, I just basically bricked over the door.
@@grebyma So sorry to hear you have a mom like that. Diane reminds me of my step mom. I noticed I would get physically ill and come home with a flu or something most times that I went to go and visit them.
There's so much of Diane's "argument" that I've heard my own mom say. When I laid out exactly what needed to happen, if we were to have a relationship going forward, she insisted I had a psychotic break.
I did a similar thing. Organised my points, said what I wasn't happy with. You know what I got. Excuses, deflection, denial, minimisation. Its a hopeless task. Still worth doing for yourself though.
@@benforrest8590 same for me, and I agree with you that it's still worth it. For me it gave me the clarity and confirmation of how I expected it to play out and thus greatly reduced the amount of guilt and second-guessing that I've felt since then. I think many, many EACs felt validated watching Diane's videos, as they allow you to see how parents like her tend to act in similar ways and not deviate too much from the script.
@@benforrest8590I agree with the idea that it's valuable to do it for yourself. In fact getting organized creating an organized life in an organized mind goes so far to reducing the effects of emotional dysregulation and cptsd it's wonderful little trick I found.
I'm in the midst of doing the last, final cut hopefully of writing it out for myself for my father and not giving it to him.
They all have the same script.
That's some hardcore gaslighting that your mom did. I don't understand how people, especially parents, can act that way
She has no intellectual humility whatsoever and fancies herself a sociologist. 🙄
no humility nor curiosity
No intelligence in this ghastly woman.
Antisocialologist
@@autisticautumn7379 haha
Right?? She’s highlighting her lack of understanding- she lost me at “cancel culture” (actually well before)
"How dare this world/ my daughter act against me when I act horribly! Boundaries schmoundaries!" - Diane
Does the daughter even exist?
She talks about connection but she means CONNECT ON MY TERMS. She shut down communication with her awful ''received'' reply. So for her to talk about connection like it was HER goal? that's infuriating. She means connect to me by being obligated to view me through my lens.
I hope that Diane's daughters are close to each other.
Watching her is a master class in NPD and gaslighting. Her poor daughter. At least her daughter might feel supported by these videos where strangers are seeing the truth of her toxic mother.
I know I would feel vindicated if I ran across something my parents put out like this!! Really there's no need though. I'm fully convinced😢😂❤
Yes, master class
Once again..does the daughter even exist?
@@CcC-ct9tb yes because the mother is a narc and these creatures hunger for supply...she wouldnt do these videos otherwise
My mom is similar to her in so many ways...but, my mother wouldn't take the time to make a video about it bc it doesn't matter THAT much. Matters just enough for her to trash me to all my family, her friends, even EVERY one of MY friends. Behind my back ofc. I went no contact a yr ago. Who knows what the narrative is these days about me & my supposed psychosis, issues, etc...blah, blah, blah.
The funny thing is the more she does this shit, the less likely her daughter will ever come back into her life. I think Diane LOOOOOOOOVES the attention she's getting from the negativity. She has no desire to have her daughter in her life.
I agree. I think she just wants this attention, she doesn’t actually want her daughter. She just wants attention and to spew vitriol. I can’t imagine living like that.
Martyrdom is lonely.
Right? She threw it away with both hands… really very sad
Narcissists just want attention, negative or otherwise, they'll take anything. She is the definition of "there is no bad press". What would really destroy her would be to not pay attention to her, her videos not getting any viewership, etc.
My pet theory is that she started making these videos at the point she realized she couldn't make her daughter get back in touch. Basically, we're all watching her revenge arc.
My sister told me my boundaries were not boundaries but they were ultimatums and she doesn’t do ultimatums. I didn’t really know what to say about that. I suppose a boundary is an ultimatum because you either respect my boundaries or see me less if at all. 🤷🏻♀️ She’s not in my life anymore…
Edit. The ultimatum I gave was that if she continues to post about our problems on fb, then I won’t continue being her fb friend. She used to post things to get likes from her flying monkey friends as a way to show me how right she was. She would have other people who I’ve never met messaging me terrible things. I removed her from fb and made it clear I’m not removing her from my life I just don’t think it’s healthy for me or our relationship to see these posts that are about me as a way to attack me. I expressed that it hurt my feelings and that to her meant that I was causing drama. She then decided that if I can’t be her fb friend it means that I’m kicking her out of my life. She blocked me on fb and then texted me every morning for over week telling me I’m worthless and my husband will leave me if he ever knows who i really am. We’ve been married for 14 years together 17 years. Funny enough, she’s the one who doesn’t know me at all. I changed my number and never looked back. That was 3 years ago. 🥳
Ultimatums aren't a bad thing. Good for you. Stick to your guns.
Heidi Priebe has an excellent video that has the answer to this precise point. A boundary is the point at which your behaviour no longer feels authentic. So it is not an ultimatum. it's the border of what feels right /tolerable for you. heidi priebe puts it well.
Ultimatums are "It's either x or me". Boundaries are "When you do X, I will respond with Y"
Ultimatums are designed to make the other person change their mind or behavior. Boundaries allow the person to do what they're going to do...and they allow *you* to respond.
Like when my ex used to say he wasnt full of excuses but reasons why he didnt do something. Which is the definition of excuse. 😂
Her framing it as an ultimatum is manipulation and trying to make you feel like a bad person for setting a boundary. My sister bullied me my entire life, but she’s too much of a perfectionist to see herself as a bad person. She is so passive aggressive she will be super kind to everyone else but me to mess with me. She’s only being nice to me now because she’s single. She has this attitude of I’m your sister I’m allowed to treat you this way. Also not viewing me as my own person she expects me to live my life how she wants me to.
The "overemphasising boundaries" thing is just another version of the "take the high road" or "don't be selfish/ silly" nonsense that abusers and enablers tell you to keep you in line and ready to receive more abuse.
Yes, exactly. I mean how dare that you reinforce your boundaries, thought like every parasite about there victim.
Classic gaslight. You don't feel what you think you feel. Let me tell you what you feel. Totally invalidating her kid.
Yes, it sounds dangerously intrusive. She's basically saying she hates her daughter's autonomy.
Yeah that’s such a red flag, “overemphasis of boundaries” ?? What exactly is that??? How can you “overemphasize” a boundary?? STOP CROSSING IT??
She doesn’t like nor respect the boundaries. She must have been a nightmare to grow up with.
I get so crazily triggered by this woman. Apologies for the 50 odd posts I'm going to make through my nervous breakdown 😅
ditto here ❤😂
Same
Big same
Big same here
Ugh same
I told a relative that I was seriously abused by my parent and a sibling. In retaliation they tried to give my address to my abuser when they themselves called them abusive, and narcissistic.
I facetiously said I would disown them if they gave out my address. They were absolutely enraged and tried to reframe the interaction as if I had threatened them unprovoked. They lied about the interaction, then accused me of being toxic and then tried to insist I was in a psychotic episode.
I then for real disowned them. Trying to incite a dangerous situation that could cause stalking and abuse while insisting I have a severe mental illness is abuse.
Boundaries aren’t cruel it’s a decision we make to ultimately ensure our safety.
not just abuse, illegal. send a cease and desist letter if at all necessary
Good for you
Relative sounds unstable.
Diane's rigid boundary was that there be no requirement to respond to or engage with her daughter's letter. NOPE!
Her daughter tried to connect through communication. Diane shut that down. Diane refused point blank to connect through communication and opted to stick to her rigid boundary of NO listening. I have thought about this because my mother is like this. Her boundary is that she will not consider any other perspective besides her own.
Couldn't agree more. I have a sister like this. She is a brick wall when it comes to her actually "hearing" and understanding how she's damaged relationships via gaslighting and manipulation. From her perspective, she's the most open and positive person she knows. It's exhausting.
OMG that smile: rageful, condescending while (barely) keeping up the polite and reasonable facade... she's terrifying for anybody still captive in the web of lies of the malignant narcissist...She should thank you for the amazing detailed analysis you are offering to her... oh well, bye Felicia!
that is just what i was thinking. i cannot stand listening to her lecturing. it makes my insides revolt.
Yeah, that’s a smirk. Diane is incapable of a smile.
Exactly. Trust your gut, people.
She is just not a nice person. At all. She tried to carefully curate an image in her first video of herself as a kind person being victimized by an uncaring daughter for no good reason. I’m in Gen X ( so she can’t write me off as a disgruntled, ungrateful child). I watched some of her daughter’s Tik Toks and she is beautiful, creative, talented, loves animals and nature and it seems like she has built a happy life for herself. I would be so proud of her if she were my child.
Sorry to point this out, but maybe the daughter is an even bigger narcissist than the mother. Until you are around a person for a while , you really can’t decide if they are narcissistic or not just off of a few signs, because we all do things which may make us appear as such. HG Tudor does a great job in teaching people on how to conclude if someone is or not for certain. One thing I know from experience is that narcissistic people make more narcissists.
@@neige4221absolutely not. Diane herself said she made her own videos and no doubt tried ro paint herself in thr best light yet thr narc in her still shone through. Then her second politically charged video just had her doubling down. You can't play devils advocate with this and have it make sense.
@@neige4221 statistics say this is unlikely, and also, this doesn't excuse Diane's awful behaviour if the daughter is NOT putting this sort of vengeful rot out into the world
Would like to see her daughters public tik Tok. Not to comment just to see but don't know the name to look up
@@SanakudouIn fact most victims of narcissists tend to become rather codependent, rarely narcissistic.
My mom is just like Diane.. it’s exhausting. I’m no contact but she still finds ways to make her smear campaign make its way back to me. I try to remind myself that people who believe her don’t deserve to be in my life; but when those people are your family members, it hurts. I can imagine how Diane’s daughter feels being mocked like this online. I’m also a mom and the thought of putting my daughter through any of this is heartbreaking. I can’t comprehend how they are capable of treating their babies like this. Today is my mom’s birthday and I was grieving her a little extra. This video made me remember my why.
I've lost all of my immediate and extended family due to cutting off my mother. It's still 1000% worth it. ❤
My heart goes out to her two kids. I totally get what it's like to have a mom like that.
Imagine if Diane put this amount of effort into understanding her daughter. 💭
💙🙏🏻💙
Directions unclear, blame social media while posting on social media instead
Diane is scouring the planet to find anything to justify her abuse of her daughter. Yelling from the internet rooftops about everything, anything she can use to prove her daughter wrong for going no-contact. She continues to escalate how she disregards her daughter and her daughter's boundaries. Diane your every video proves your daughter has made the right decision, the brave decision to go no-contact.
What happened to you Diane? Deal with it and heal.
Someone prove that the daughter exists or I cannot take these videos seriously.
Waste. I don’t know why this is recommended to me.
my mother said this thing about boundries to me as well. Her reasoning was " You do not have any boundries, I am your mother and you're not allowed to have boundries towards me because i say so" .
And about the cancel culture. I once told my mother that she could also not say those nasty things to me. Her answer " why not, i'm allowed to say the truth"
Thank you for that sweet cat pallet cleanser.
And that is how you know you are merely property, like a prop on a stage, to enhance her own life. It's sad how often people are merely props in the lives of others, especially the someones who created them.
@@-_-_-_-_-...because they never separated from their mothers
@@caroleminke6116 hmm...you think separation is the root? I think that proximity isn't the problem so much as perspective. To understand the child you make is actually their own person is perspective that can be understood without them having to depart. While proximity can be eye opening, it's true, I also think it can be a moot point if the perspective isn't adjusted; and that adjustment isn't dependent on proximity, it can be done at any proximity.
Oh wow, I heard the same thing from my mother so many times, whenever I try to set boundaries with her she goes "but I'm your mother". Like being a mother automatically makes someone a god in their children's lives, the same human rules just don't apply to them.
I think you hit the nail on the head about her own trauma. My mother is very similar, and I realised a while ago in therapy that she could never do the same work, because if she faced her own trauma she would also have to face what she did to survive it, which is become an abuser herself.
Imho, broadly there are two ways to survive abuse. One is to lock your real self away and abuse yourself, the other is to lock your real self away and abuse others in turn. I suspect those who survive and can find the key to recover their true selves go the first way, which means they have things they can face and work with later on. That's not to claim any moral superiority. I don't think it's a conscious choice. It might just come down to the psychological make up you're born with.
Having said all of that, none of it means you should allow an abuser to remain in your life and cause you harm.
Great comment.
I think it is a choice
How about you just kind of put yourself away a little bit and survived through until it's safe to take your shell off??
I'd hate to think that it's a given that to survive abuse we have to abuse something. That seems sociopathic almost.
I know I haven't been the best to myself. I fell into category 1 a bit and I've realized I'm more guilty in category 2 then I would have thought when I first started healing, but I never hated myself like people say all the time they have to combat, and I really can't say that I was nasty to people. I disappeared and I became kind of mysterious and not the most not the best friend because I was self-absorbed and horribly controlled but I didn't develop raging narcissistic tendencies because I was being narcissistically abused!!!
No!! in fact I've had to work to correct some over correction because I never wanted to be anything like my selfish parents. I needed to learn NO badly!
it all comes down to inborn temperament whether a person who was abused makes an unconscious choice to abuse others or not. people rarely talk about this
@@We_Are_All_Vultures Some days I have this feeling too. When the pattern is already established, the things they do, they are definitely choices.
Has Dian forget that 1940's Germany targeted minorities just like she is doing now?
"But but but the 1940s German Nazis were the baddies so they're bad!" But if you described their ideology without naming them (and maybe changing a couple of the targeted demographics) she'd be fully on board.
I have this feeling that Diane’s videos are or will be used in psychology classes as an example of the classic narcissist.
Diane is dumping next level hate and shame on her daughter and her generation, while her daughter is probably doing pirouettes, finally free of this gargoyle. I've seen her clips on TikTok and she looks pretty free to me.
😂
My mum has that wall behind her eyes, sometimes it feels like she isn't a whole person. I have never felt that moment of connection with her that you get with people your close to.
same here when i was younger no one would dare say they didn't feel anything but love for their mothers that is unless you were a sociopath so for years i was so scared something was wrong with me i still cut ties because as much as i thought maybe something is wrong with me there is def something horrid about her. years later and some time in therapy i found out i wasn't a sociopath so that was a big relief
I knew my mother resented my existence from a very young age. I didn't and still don't know why, but it instilled in me a distinct sense of distrust, and I wouldn't wish that feeling upon anyone.😢
I have said this before but it bears repeating. Diane has done SO MUCH GOOD for adult children like me. She is a specific kind of narcissistic mother who so many of us recognize but whom we rarely see displayed in media and certainly not unmasked like this on a public stage. By putting out her videos and doubling down again and again, she's allowing people like you, Zoe, to have such a clear example to point to of the kind of sneaky abuse so many of us tolerated because it was done with a smile. She's allowing you to pull it apart, call it out, and reaffirm our desires to stay away from women like this. As hard as it is to stomach what her daughters went through and no matter how triggering she is, I'm grateful that Diane is making these videos now. Your commentary on them has been so healing for me. Thank you, Zoe.
Absolutely!
Imagine how much better her relationship with her daughter could be if she put this much effort into doing some self reflection and really try to understand the breakdown of their relationship. So much time and energy spent on something that doesn't get her what she really says she wants, a relationship with her daughter.
These videos are almost art in the ironic way that they are the ultimate expression of why exactly it is that people go no contact.
They really are. Creepily crafted masterpieces, in a very niche and particularly sickening genre...
Diane doesn't want connection,this is Revenge and controlling the narrative.(In her mind)
Agreed with your comment and the replies. I also wonder if Diane just likes appearing as the victim in all this. Plus, getting clicks and interactions on her videos, as well as knowing other content creators and their viewers will discuss her. This is nothing about trying to heal a no-contact relationship. It's all about Diane, Diane, Diane.
Thank you for the kitty segment at the end. It cleanses the emotional palate from all things Diane.
That's good, now you can think of Billy and not Diane! 🤗
Great aftercare! ❤
What the hell, Diane? Disgusting images of dead bodies now? Diane. Is. Broken.
thanks for the trigger warning. that's pretty awful
Yeah this channel should have blurred them out. Very triggering
It just showed me that Diane has no empathy. She's just using people who've died in a genocide for her petty arguments.
@@FionavanDahlshe warned you.
This woman is terrifying. I can’t imagine how awful her daughters childhood must’ve been.
Imagine how much worse she is behind closed doors in private, if she feels comfortable to present herself in this way to the public. YIKES
Oh I get it now, she’s a professional victim.
The amount of energy she is willing to put in to "doing research" and making videos as opposed to actually looking within is breathtaking.
Narcissist only do biased confirmation never wanted the actual truth.
I always knew when I was growing up that you didn't contradict my mother. I didn't find out why until I was well into my adulthood and tried to speak to her about how she was treating my brother. I then saw what was inside of her. It was scary.
I'm still waiting for someone to react to how she learned of her daughter's autism diagnosis and said "She didn't ask how WE felt about this".
Did I misunderstand that?
Major yikes 😬
Huge blinking 🚩🚩🚩
As in Diane is perfect so her offspring must also be perfect and only exist to emphasize how perfect Diane is. Same old "I brought you into this world and I will control everything you do because your existence is only due to ME" What an insufferable person Diane is, imo
Oh, I missed that.... She probably thinks autism is a disease and has to defend her childrearing by insisting that the internet and talk therapy "gave Haley autism" and that she was perfect when she was dependent on the parents.
I've got news for Diane: she and Ted "gave Haley autism." It runs in families, therefore it very probably has a genetic component. My family have genetic SNPs that are highly correlative with autism. And we have autism. So. 🤷
I think it was the father who said this but yeah.
They want the adult child to act as the parent. If either parent is having a hard time with the daughter’s diagnosis, then they should talk to a therapist or trust a family friend about those feelings, and not rely on their daughter to be their support system for such a thing. A general in the army does not go and find a private first class to discuss issues with. These parents are destroying the boundary that should exist between parent and child.
That constant grin tells a lot.
Duper’s delight.
Yes that is a telltale sign, my mother has that.
it's heartbreaking. That grin is an armor so violent that will destroy her own mind
She reminds me of my mother. She probably looks lovely and charismatic from the outside, but I associate those facial expressions and language pattern (and non-nunaced information spat out with confidence) with an abusive woman who's putting on a show
The smirk of someone who is incredibly arrogant
I want to point out that the daughter cut her off pretty shortly after coming out as bisexual, there are so many missing reasons from Diane here.
i doubt that's why daughter went NC tho -- likely decades of psychological & emotional abuse; maybe she started to feel supported elsewhere, knew her parents would not suddenly become kind or accepting of any part of her, & finally got the strength to set real boundaries. or maybe i'm just projecting!
@MayaGTK I'm saying its probably part of it at least and that Diane is a blatant liar
@@MayaGTKwas probably her last straw
@@livis438 yes ofc agreed
@@Mama_Bear524 yes 💔
Overemphasis of boundaries, in Diane's case, simply means, she doesn't like these boundaries and wants everyone to know that she feels no obligation to respect them. She's not that complicated.
The fact that Diane is unwilling to take any responsibility for her daughter not wanting contact with her shows her complete lack of self awareness. Thank you for your important analyses of these videos..I just hope that people who watch her videos also come across your channel!
Diane is right in one respect: if not for videos on social media, a child might be more reluctant to stay no contact. After all, they might imagine not being in contact would give the parent an opportunity for quiet self-reflection and introspection. Diane's videos clarifies that they don't. There's nothing more persuasive than Diane's videos to confirm the wisdom and health of going no contact with narc parents. If going "no contact" is a social media fad, then Diane's videos are one of biggest drivers for it.
I went no contact over 20 years ago before I even heard the term but I explained why to my mother & got to see a clear look of hatred on her face ❤️🩹 the last time I ever saw her & skipped the funeral with an open casket 🤦♀️ this is after I found & reunited her with an older half brother she’d given up for adoption
@@caroleminke6116 Yep, she talks as if cutting off narcissistic parents is a new thing coming from the internet, lmao - my boyfriend's dad went low contact with his father 3 decades ago, which meant stepping out of family business and having to start over in poverty. And it was in a rather traditional country, where families are super important. He had taken the abuse himself, but couldn't watch him treat his young wife horribly, and knew it would extend to his kids once they grow, so took an extremely courageous decision. My bf is very grateful to him, they had a peaceful, loving family life thanks to that. And because of his grandfather's example, I don't have to explain my mom to him a lot, he understands.
Having said this, I do think internet has helped a lot more people to come to this conclusion, and this is a GOOD thing. It's a very hard decision to take, and having examples like Diane online really can clear the confusion and show that sometimes it is the only right decision.
@@khalidcabrero6204 She blames "radical liberalism" for this "trend of adult children cutting off their parents." In other words, critical thinking and accountability for your actions. Doesn't she realize that, as a woman, she couldn't vote, own a credit card, or even be considered an autonomous human if it wasn't for "radical liberalism?" My father and her would be a match made in heaven; they think that providing for children they produced equates them with god-like status.
She's not enjoyable to be around on any level I'm sure lots of people avoid her.
The self-righteous baby voice is just...I can't.
Which is such a hilarious self-fulfilling aspect, because I bet you she is terrified of being abandoned.
@@sunnyadams5842YES. The voice. The facial expression (just the one...) 😬
The over emphasis of personal boundaries at the expense of mutual understanding and connection.🤔 WHAT??? That's how abusers talk. "Why are you being so sensitive? I'm just trying to be friendly" 😱
"What's your problem? Can't you take a joke?"
"Why are you so sensitive, what's wrong with you?"
"Is that what you're wearing? You look trashy in that skirt. (that you're so excited to wear and felt really cute in)
It shows everything I hate most about your body."
No wonder I'm still trying to piece together my sense of self-esteem. (And hiding behind a male character as a profile pic.)
unsurprising but interesting she doesn't realize boundaries actually foster understanding & strengthen *real* connection but of course she's not interested in anything "mutual" but others bending to her whims - imo
@@potatopirate5557 💜💗💜
She has no idea what a boundary is. She thinks it means arbitrary personal rules of etiquette, or something.
If her Daughter is reading this... we believe you... have no guilt...stay healthy by staying NO CONTACT❤❤❤
Diane is insufferable. She possesses no self awareness and does a whole lot of projection. I found it interesting she criticized the overuse of labels with narcissist at the top of her list.
I’d love to see her daughter do a power point about her mother.
It’s so disturbing how the mother is speaking like some medical information video as if she is some kind of authority or has special training.
🙏thank you. It's hard to see Diane, it is like to look at my mother. I went no contact, too. Really one of the BEST decisions i've ever made.
It is healing to see, that there are many people who also see and understand. Who are empathetical and trustworthy🙏thank all of you❤
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Every time I watch this woman, I get re-traumatized. My narc mother is dead, but it all comes back strongly after watching this horror of a "mother".
She needs to get off social media and take up knitting. I would also suggest intense therapy for her lol
Can you imagine how long it would take her to 'give' an inch
Shes a lost case...her brain is already too toxic...
This weekend, I was watching the Peterson interview with Musk and I thought of Diane when Musk started dead-naming and humiliating his daughter to millions. I couldn't help thinking that this whole subject of children going no-contact with parents is going to become increasingly relevant.
"You can say no, just not to me. I'm your mother, anything i do is loving. Your 'no' is invalid ". Huh. Lady, love is a verb.
Diane reminds me so much of my mother. Always the victim and always right in het own mind. Do as I say not as I do. I am 65 so she can't blame the millenials or genZ or whoever she wants to blame. I am relieved that her daughter lives her own life. Thank you for bringing this video and good luck to all the young people who set their boundaries❤
66, but you took the words right out my heart
I'm 55 and grew up with this. When she was finally shut down by me, she went after my daughters. One of them still falls for it. She'll buy you, she'll sell you, throw you out when you question her behavior, sh*t talk you behind your back until you put her in her place. Once you do, she'll never have another thing to do with you. Easiest thing I've ever gotten rid of in my life.
It's a miracle that both daughters actually realized that something was wrong and being abused and finally strong enough to cut her/them off? Many do not even think that abuse is taking place because they are so used to it.
These daughters deserve a prize for escaping this monster. They ESCAPED...
Yes,I am so pleased they have acted early in life.I had no social media or internet info to help me put the pieces together so it took me a lot longer.
She can blab all she wants , it won't change reality that her daughter wants nothing to do with her. I hope the daughter is living her best life, away from her narc mother. I am speaking from experience, the trauma remains but not being exposed to your abusers helps a lot!
I think the old question stands true here. Would you rather be right or would you rather have a relationship with your child? Sad she doesn’t get it.
She'll do anything but look at herself. Anything but genuinely CONSIDER that her daughter may be responding in a healthy and appropriate manner. My heart goes out to the daughter.
So media and social media make people worse but she’s using media to trash her daughter.
Narcissist selfish logic
I think her daughter was never meant to think for herself. To go to such belligerent lengths with her plight, Diane not only reminds me of my own parents but also of an individual involved in American politics, whose name I can't be bothered to mention. Such minds simply cannot tolerate being questioned about anything. It's their way or the highway. How can a person ever be happy in any sort of a relationship with such conditions attached? Listening to Diane makes me feel exhausted. The cat section at the end made me feel happy.
Thank you ☀️
Diane has taken more time and effort making this video than she has put into trying to have a relationship with her daughter. We are on the same wavelength because I posted this right before you just said that 😮
Hey Diane, there have always been narcissists, we just never knew what they were called before.
Thank you for the cat. Good lord I needed it after hearing Diane’s voice. That woman is one giant trigger 😂
I’m starting to think that those terms aren’t thrown around too much or too flippantly… my personal experience out here in the world is that these manipulative selfish people are everywhere and the rest of us are finally noticing and talking about it and they are mad they can’t keep getting away with it.
Amen!
My trick is not really using the term "narcissist" unless I am in the company of people who know in detail what it means. The words you used are good ones for example - we can just call narcs "selfish and manipulative". "Unpleasant to be around". "Unkind". "Uncaring, unempathetic". "Insufferable, exhausting, childish". Etc. Then it feels like a more "naked" truth, and there's no divisive, loaded buzzword label to divert the conversation from its real core.
@@vihmaussivenitaja Great point!
She’s literally the worst 😂
I hope that Diane’s daughter knows how much we empathize with her.
Yes, me too!
The lengths that woman will go to to avoid taking responsibility! What on earth does the husband think?
the husband is likely as bad or worse
The husband is an enabler!
She doesn't allow her husband to have his own thoughts 😂😂
I appreciate the cat content at the end to calm down my poor nervous system ❤_❤
Oh, he's just another version of the same thing as Diane.
what I want to know is - 😮Diane! what's in there that's just so horrible that if you looked at it it would kill you worse than your daughters not talking to you...
Basically, she just wants her children to disregard all her bad behavior bc it is in the past but, most importantly, just shut up and let her be her controlling, narcissistic, real self. Let her remain oblivious of her bad behavior while she blames them for treating them horribly. I wish I could say I've never experienced someone with a lack of self awareness and selfishness at that level but, nope. Been there and there's only one way to win with someone like her... get them completely out of your life and anyone you are around. Toxic.
She will not believe that she behaved badly. SHE WAS PERFECT
"This is not hyperbole." (Unironically compares parental estrangement with the actual Holocaust)
Theraphy literally saved my life. Gave me my confidence back. I will forever be greatful. Today i live happy life away from people who dragged me down for years.
I am in the middle of my own therapy about surviving family abuse. Dianne is an amalgum of four of my siblings. I am so glad to watch your response videos because on my own, watching Dianne is so upsetting. Thank you so much for saying everything you do to counter her heinous theories. I grew up with these cockamamie ideas and I was so confused, for so long! I can now smile! I know what she is doing and can now safely reevaluate what my siblings have also done to their own children. And thank you so much for your very considerate after video cat encounters. Puurfect!
Well done as always. She's certainly over the top, salting and scorching the parental earth so she will guarantee no relationship with her estranged daughter ever.
She is on a crusade to express her actual HATRED of her daughter.
@@sallywillis1448this is a factual statement you can see the hatred in her eyes. This was probably the hardest aspect for me to come to terms with, that I was hated by my own mother.
Cheryl ❤️🩹
I believe that Diane sees boundaries as unimportant. You can have them as long as they don’t affect anyone else. But if they stop other people from acting however they see fit, your boundaries are selfish.
Excellent explanation as always!
Keep up the exposed Diane ❤
Helping us heal from a safe distance ❤🤣❤
Thanks! Haha that's the plan! 🥰
Sounds like she's projecting
Oh she's so ridiculous drawing parallels between her own pathological aversion to resolving conflict through engaging and listening, and MAO and totalitarian regimes 🙄😵💫🤬
Yes, we are assessing the status of our own mental health and realizing we have been abused by malignant narcissists., DIANE. 😡 She doesn't like boundaries, clearrly she keeps stepping over them which makes a person have to keep repeating themselves because their boundary isn't respected, DIANE. 😡
How dare the internet tell my child they deserve better.
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How do we even know it was the Internet? The daughter realistically may have gotten sick of it, and mommy can’t handle that so she blames anything else.
@@candicefrost4561 probably. I was joking because this lady seems to blame the Internet for her child going NC.
I just want to express my deepest thanks for exploring this topic further. It helps tremendously! It gives me the words and deeper understanding that i need to navigate my challenging relationship with my own mother.
Her constant same expression gives me the creeps
If you look into her eyes she has no soul like a typical narcissist !! Imagine being this woman’s child ?!? I pray her daughter heals!
It's the souless stare mask they use to always give the appearance they are nice and victims.
This woman sickens me! I can imagine having her as a mother, as she is just like mine!!!
hello sister 😕😘❤
Always so happy when you upload a new video
Thank you so much! 😊
I get so happy whenever a new video from you pops up 🤩
Aw! Thank you, I'm touched! 🥰
Me too. Incredible ability to see what people are doing. And very fair too. I thought I was good at this but you see so much more! Love your stuff.
Same here! Its like a treat, at one point my excitment was the equivalent to what I feel when Bridgerton Season 3 dropped.
My mom has apologized for things i don't even remember. Poor woman stays awake at night thinking about mistakes she made as a mother.
Diane sleeps fine because she has zero capacity to take responsibility. Imagine working with this lady, or being her neighbor. Gosh she's such a bitter pill. I can imagine her backing into her neighbor's mailbox and then blaming the mailbox.
Imagine being a customer service rep and having to deal with her. God she probably leaves a trail of destruction everywhere she goes with her Teflon attitude.
Nah she stays up all night thinking about how she’s been wronged by her daughter and social media
@@brooke_reiverrose2949 Yes! This is actually the only little satisfying thing in this. Knowing that narcs are prisoners of their own rage and bitterness, and they will forever be obsessing over it if their egos take a hit and they can't hit back 🥲 No contact is such a hit on their ego, and parents like her all over the world are rolling around in their impotent rage after being simply cut off and disengaged from, which gives them no way of hitting back. They don't learn, they don't change, but they do suffer. Not from sadness or broken heart, but from rage, lol.
I am low contact with my narc mother, which is luckily easy - she takes little interest in me unless she needs something, instead living through our golden child baby brother, who takes the brunt of communication. We are all living far from her. Baby bro is amazing tho - he's gen Z, and miraculously, he IS setting some boundaries, for example calmly leaving Christmas table saying "I feel you are attacking me" to mother, which we, older kids, never dared. Her dinner table conversation is mostly just saying belittling things about all of us, usually masked as "jokes", or showing her as a victim (like bringing up how I was "horrible" to her when I was 11 or sth). Her husband is the biggest punching bag these days, but we all get jabs, we always do. But baby bro - he's the only one protecting himself, he doesn't lose his temper (like I used to when younger), she can't shake him for some reason, which is so admirable - probably it's him learning online early on what her behaviour means and not "taking it in". He was a golden child, with all his accomplishments allowing her to live through him, but never got narcissistic himself. As a teenager he hid away from her in his room, leading her to blame "difficult puberty", which no other family member saw in him, lmao, he was a great, easy kid with everyone else. But now as a young adult he confronts her. Gen Z kids are so much smarter than us millennials.
Her arrogant smirk. Those cold eyes. She is blaming and shaming her daughter and her viewers for the situation SHE CREATED.
Here we go on another wild ride with our favorite narcissistic mother Diane! Watching these videos have taught me so much.