I don't believe for one minute that Robyn wanted the "one house". She is cagey and saw that Christine and Meri weren't really for it, so she supported Kody to be the "good wife" knowing that it would never happen with opposition of the other wives. Also, I think that Kody was only acting like he was trying to mend his relationship with Meri so he could keep her $$$ in the family and available to him and Robyn.
Robyn's mom and dad were LDS monogamists. She was 9 when they divorced. Her mom then became the second wife of Paul. The two families lived in different states. They knew who each other was but did not live or function as one polygamous family. Effectively, they were separate monogamous families. At 35+ Robyn still had not lived polygamy, she thought that she had, but actually had not.
This is why I keep saying "Robyn NEVER lived polygamy " and still hasn't! After marrying Robyn, the other marriages basically ended. They became becareful platonic realitonships. The only reason they moved from Vegas was because Robyn could not allow Dayton to go to school without her!
Christine was not asked to take care of Kody and Robin's children, there was suddenly a nanny. So Christine was passed over. but the idiotic thing was that Robin doesn't work outside the home and she can raise the children herself. So while Robin doesn't bring in any money, she does rely on the family's money. So who should pay for the luxurious cat Robin?
Meri did not trick Kody into marriage. Kody is a follower not a leader. Kody was craving the approval of other men. It was his dad, her dad and the men in the AUB who coerced him. Meri loved him, she did not trick him. Meri was on the fence about monogamy vs polygamy. She chose polygamy because Kody wanted it. He decided it.
It is no coincidence that Kody & Robyn orchestrated this move to flagstaff when Dayton got into college there. It was disgusting honestly what they put the FAMILY through.
At this point Kodi and Christine were not having any intimacy, not even hand holding or touching. It is easy to see why Christine wouldn't want to see Kody and Robin being all loved up when she wasn't even getting her hand held I mean really that's like torture
Oh but poor Kody complained he could not openly show affection for princess Robyn. Kody can complain about not openly showing his legal wife affection while he spent a decade giving the cold shoulder to three wives. Kody said in a TV he answers to a "high calling". Guess that calling does not include how he treated Christine, Meri & Janelle.
Kristine's youngest and Robyn's youngest are only one year apart! Your perception is so interesting, because it's Robyn who positions her children as babies, because Kody likes children who ACT like babies.
There’s a miscarriage between Sol and Arie/when people kept saying she was pregnant-she was/she admitted it when she and Kody were outside and she wanted to have a little dark hair baby that she kept seeing in her vision
@@pattyelaine9563 - Totally agree. What I couldn't figure out is how expensive the slab would be for that thing! Concrete alone would run one into the poor house!
Christine offered to help Robyn with her children from the very beginning. It was Robyn nixed that idea. Christine was heartbroken. Meri offered and Robyn refused the offer, again. Robyn calls the victim card so well that many believer what she says at face value.
When you get to the season where she wants to move back to Utah and got a yay from Kody only for him to gaslight her after talking with Robyn about it you will get it.
I hate to disagree with anything either of you say. However, I must disagree that they would have lived in one house, if it were not for Christine. Robyn did not cheer for the house. As a matter of fact, it would have been 10x more obvious that he is always in Robyn's wing. She refused to move into the Utah shared home, although she did not work and the family had to pay her rent. Christine was the only one who was honest. Janelle was just desperate to get rhe family back together, and she was lying to herself that this was the solution.
I feel terrible for Meri, being a mother of one, wanting equal treatment, barely having time to bond when they decided to keep looking for wives. but not getting any actual love from Kody because they had to live this lifestyle, the idea that the move to flagstaff is because Robyn wanted to be with her son, she didn't want him away from her. Unlike his older adoptive brothers and sisters who were told to move out. So everyone having to move again and everyone unable to live together. It's no wonder she's so guarded with the life she had before Kody and during this life she had. If they stayed alone together-Kody may have left her because he wanted kids. Meri isn't innocent but to me she has the most trama, just on the principle of the lifestyle. Three years and no child yet, three years and he has her sister-in-law as a partner, then Christine enters the family, finally she gets a child, but she can't stand her sister wife ex sister in law, she's the legal wife for the longest time, it's her only prize until 2010, or so they get another person involved, younger, still able to bare children, the hope for a friend who then betrays you. Meri right now is doing what's best for her by moving on, which is what i got from her talk on camera with Koday that Robyn was trying to handle. Meri had to come to it herself and say she was done trying to be part of a family and man who no longer wanted her.
Robin has always demanded special treatment for herself and her children. Because Cody favors her, he has given in to her demands. All this at the expense of the rest of the wives and children.
What is unique about polygamy is not good and what is good, is not unique. Im glad Melissa pointed this out! They have referenced the blessing of polygamy since the beginning of the show and i have always thought it was so strange! We can all have people help with our children and running out homes without polygamy!
Love hearing both your perspectives on these shoes. I get very annoyed with that gossip channelw commentaries on these shows but I love the honest, just not catty approach to commentary.
Hey Melissa and Sam! Love your videos! I'm fascinated by polygamy - always have been. Would never want to do it though. As far as a bit into Meri and Kody's early relationship, in their book it goes into that people in the church group (which Meri was raised in her whole life) never noticed her until Kody came along and started dating her. She admits that she was a wallflower. Kody talks about that he fell in love with her because she listened and respected him. Apparently at some point, not too far into the marriage, Meri became assertive. Kody even had a license plate on his car that said "Petruchio" or shrew tamer. I can't remember which - it's in the book. Point is, I THINK that's why Kody felt tricked. He thought she would be a shy, quiet, submissive wife and she turned into the opposite, or always was the opposite around people she knew well. Bonnie (Meri's mother) was the principle of the AUB school that Meri and even some of the Brown kids attended. Bonnie was very no nonsense and domineering, at least when dealing with the school. No idea if she was that way towards her husband, but we know from Meri and Janelle's past that Meri was raised in a home where opinions were voiced loudly and strongly. Honestly, she must have hid that a bit from Kody in the beginning, or maybe she was just following him around totally love struck. Twenty years later I'm still pretty love struck by my husband so I wouldn't fault her on that one. Keep the videos coming! Sam - thanks for all the inside info into the FLDS. ** Edit I'm also not a Robyn hater. I just think Kody fell head over heels in love with her and didn't hide it. **
Just curious... have you read their book? It kìnd of helps with understanding the issues between the wives. Kinda is the key word there. Also the contradicts alot we actually saw and heard on the show. I find the difference between the show and the book interesting The truth is somewhere in the middle
Robyn didn’t grow up in a one house polygamous family. She grew up in a different state than her step father’s first family. She wanted to be Kody’s favorite family, not just part of a big family.
I agree with some of the prior messages, you are missing that Robyn didn't want her sister wives to watch her kids but wanted a nanny. Robyn started off to separate her and her children
Ysabels back surgery! Wait until u see that interaction within the family. I do believe 100% that was Christines final straw bc Kody hurt Ysabel by refusing to go.
They lies Meri didn't move because they didn't want a polygamist family in their neighborhood they neighbors complained about the crew trucks and filming interfering with their neighborhood
I think Christine was so against the one big house because she had already decided to leave and was financially preparing and she had a house in her name alone. If she moved into the big house she would have to put her money into it and then she wouldn’t have her nest egg.
I strongly disagree! Robin has chosen to isolate herself and her family from the bigger family. It's been like that from the beginning. Her words are hollow.
Three of Robyn’s four kids in school were in a perfect moment in school to move. One was entering college, one entering 9th grade first year of high school and the other entering 1st grade if on time if not kdg. Janelle and Christine had Gabe, Gwen, Savannah, Ysabel either in the middle of high school or for 8th grade. What a year to move. I changed schools middle of 2nd and then again for 8th and the 8th grade move was the roughest. And Truely was like going into 3rd?
Hi Sam and Melissa. I just love watching your videos. I’m re watching the whole series now to. I’m on season 16 now. I think season 19 will be sad with the passing of their son Garrison. I can’t even imagine what they all are going through. It’s going to be a tough one for sure.
Robyn yelled at Garrison for telling Sol not to hit. Remember Maddie and Mykelti often went to Robyn’s during courting and after to babysit for Robyn’s kids. Before Robyn as in all big families the older kids were responsible for the younger kids. Robyn would not want a big house where another mom or a big sibling might tell her precious child something. No one wants a committee to raise their kid. But don’t engage in polygamy.
Season 14 Tshirt, "don't share a man". Meri is an extremely jealous, how does she not know herself enough to know she's not built for polygamy. The Brown Teenagers knew themselves enough to know they are not living polygamy. Meri takes it out on all in her life cause she can't be mad at Kody, she's mad at the world!
Christine was on her way out, that’s why she didn’t want to live in a shared house. The writing was on the wall, and she had an exit strategy, sharing a house would have ended that.
Kody said Meri made Robyn give up or change her plot. Robyn does this. She reworks things after going to Kody’s room and suddenly the plan for everyone changes.
By the way, the phrase "Where one of us goes, we will go together," is a QAnon phrase. I'm not sure but seems to me like Kody went off the deep end when it comes to conspiracy theories.
If Robyn wanted one house he would have gotten it and the others gone along like they did with the move to AZ or left. On a different parcel of land. It was not buildable on this plot of land. It was 4 lots in a subdivision of single family homes. This is not the man to accept financial or real estate or property information from. He has creative financing. He wants to turn 4 lots into 5. They would have done that already. Does he think he is brighter than everyone else? OMG. The one house was simply content. Their content always revolves around moving and real estate. Kody should host a house hunting show on TLC.
I agree…My mom had girlfriends for years that we stayed in their home. We kids bunked together and had a blast. Truely (none of the kids)didn’t even have a place to spend a weekend. These are siblings and they don’t do overniters? This was the most divided family for trying to pull off a polygamist Robyn didn’t try to keep the relationships with the others to actually get her goal for polygamy. Cant have your cake and eat it too. Can’t stay separate but expect the others to make it stay all together. Makes no sense.
Can someone explain how Christine bought a house but no one else did? Like Mari already had the Utah house but why did Janelle buy a house ever? When it seemed easy for Christine to be able to buy.
Christine demanded a stable home for her kids. That meant owning the house. Also, Christine had trained as a realtor and understood the financial benefits of owning over renting. Christine was already working towards financial insecurity and independence.
Christine couldn’t find a house to rent , so she bought. Janelle and Meri rented. And Janelle sunk a lot of the proceeds from her Vegas sale into Robyn’s down payment, leaving her cash strapped.
I just wanted to remind you both how much I appreciate and enjoy your unique perspective on the Brown family behavior. I know their religion (supposedly) plays into a lot of what they do, but inwardly, I definitely think the OG3 leaving their marriage, their covenant, perhaps even their faiths--that's a HUGE deal that not many TH-camrs (great as they are) highlight. Why? Probably because they've never been in a cult. Much peace and happiness to you both.
Kody controls the money from the show. But because of that they are involved in a businesss which means they do have claims of some of the assets. AZ needs to do an audit.
I wonder if the tlc contract played a part in how long they stayed and meri still being on show even though she was kinda on her own. Wonder how Robin gets away with barely filming and her kids rarely on show. You never hear about her family. And there was talk about Dayton and college. Was the move to flag staff for his college or did he decide to go there after the decision. And have you ever been to Michigan? Our ocean lakes are beautiful. Upper penninsula and lake Superior is amazing
What Kody says is "Where we go one, we go all." It's a Q-Anon saying. I can't remember who said it in an interview, that Kody was on the Internet a lot and went far right-wing.
I’m not saying Janelle did not sacrifice- she was the main breadwinner for a while. However, she was very vocal about loving being a career woman and not really enjoying being at home. Christine was not only the child care, but also the cook and educator. Janelle said in the first season that she would go to a movie after work and I thought was wild considering Christine did not seem to get those kind of breaks. I think polygyny appealed to Janelle because she had the best of both worlds while Christine felt like everyone else’s needs came before hers and her children and if she protested, she got a lot of pushback, and maybe not just from Kody. I was surprised that Janelle said she was surprised Christine had such inner strength and resilience during Truly’s kidney failure. I was surprised that she underestimated Christine because I think she had the HARDEST job with hardly any appreciation or support. Remember when she had to study for the real estate license test and NO ONE was helping her? I think Christine and Janelle became as close as they did in Flagstaff because things had become so acrimonious with Kody that Janelle felt like she had no choice but to take a stand. Had she been willing to still cover for Kody because he was throwing her some scraps I don’t know if they would have become best friends. Meri thought she had a best friend in Robyn but as time went on and especially during COVID, I think it was heartbreaking for Meri to Rrealize that she was way more invested than Robyn was in the relationship and that besides those children, she was alone. And the children is why I think she stuck around as long she did.
I would love for you to explain all of the things Robyn said about the religious beliefs, like thinking God would provide them with a house and even the angels singing comments. These are all things as a secular person I don’t understand.
Meri wasn’t cut out for plural marriage IMO😮🤷🏼♀️ my husband and I were married in our early 0’s now in our 50’s, 5 kids and 33 years later we definitely grew up together 💜
I can’t be the only one who cannot figure out what is just SO beautiful about coyote pass, right? It looks like a barren wasteland with plague-ridden gopher poop and a mud puddle. Sure, there’s a view of a mountain…. But no grass!? And the kids can’t play in the dirt because of the plague. We just bought 40 acres in MN and it’s lush and green with trees and grass so I just don’t get it with the rocky dirt lol…
Robyn thought the older “original” Brown kids bullied her kids and never accepted her as a mom. She was never comfortable letting the other wives watch her kids, hence she had to have a nanny.
She would not spend all that money if she wanted it. She would not let Kody buy a ring cause he wants it all the time. There is no reason they didn’t have 4 fully paid off homes during their Vegas time.
“Four single mums trying to have a relationship with a man whose running around like a chicken with its head cut off “ That’s a perfect synopsis of the show lol
Okay 1st the wives would have been idiots if they believed Kody was financially disciplined enough to build that monstrosity. 2nd who in their right mind would want to watch him stay in Robyn’s apartment and dote on her kids while he emotionally neglected and abused the rest? And Robyn made sure she had complete control of her kids, her house, and her husband. Her kids were not allowed to stay at anyone’s house.
Call Linda what he was doing when he divorce Mary and Mary Robin because I think he wants all of them to leave him. He don’t wanna be the one to say he don’t wanna be rude. He’s with the one who wants to be with and she’s with the one she wants to be with meaning Robin so it’s just a matter of time Cody just wanted the money that’s all.
We see Robyn put her foot down ON-CAMERA…. robyn is always pulling the strings or turning the neck of Kody. Look for the clues… they are starting to show.
Sometimes I think that you two are just too nice to see how awful Robyn and Kody are. You make excuses for them and give them so much more credit for being decent than they deserve. Keep watching though, and you will see. Great channel you have here, so interesting
I think Meri and Kody a great couple. Bothered by patio doors, showers, wet bars and nightstand heights wanting it the way they want it. They would have had another kid if not for the nights she wasn’t getting time… I think later on before his kid(s) out of the house they would have divorced and he would have gone for a younger model and done a do over with a few more kids. Meri would have been actually free in her early 40’s. Maybe late 30’s and young enough to have another with a new partner with reproductive assistance or with step kids still at home. Tragic.
But I thought that in “the principle” was that the wives could only reach the highest level of heaven through their marriage. If that is one’s belief then a wife might feel trapped, spiritually, in this marriage.
Meri isn’t innocent, but Kody used Meri as his heavy for the other wives. She also was a major money maker for the family. Also, the other wives see Meri as “ the disciplinarian” and she was the one that they targeted. There always has to be the odd one out.
Being too young when you married and that’s what doesn’t work out. It’s just a big excuse we you met at 17 married at 18 and it lasted 58 years. It would’ve been longer if my husband had not died from cancer. It’s obeying God and keep falling in love with your husband.
Call me naive...I still dont see neither Kody nor Robyn as super vilains...i feel sorry for all of them. They want it to work but it is just not doable for several reasons.
What a farce that show has turned in to. One problem with the show continuing on is not just that they are no longer polygamists, but also most people cannot stand Kody and his behavior. He is totally an unlikeable human, so there’s that and it is a huge turn off!
I don't believe for one minute that Robyn wanted the "one house". She is cagey and saw that Christine and Meri weren't really for it, so she supported Kody to be the "good wife" knowing that it would never happen with opposition of the other wives. Also, I think that Kody was only acting like he was trying to mend his relationship with Meri so he could keep her $$$ in the family and available to him and Robyn.
Totally, which is why she got the cabin.
I absolutely believe this as well.
I believe it too. Robin is cagey and to me uses Kody for her financial gain. I think she is very manipulative
Meri did think it was an okay idea though.
Robyn's mom and dad were LDS monogamists. She was 9 when they divorced. Her mom then became the second wife of Paul. The two families lived in different states. They knew who each other was but did not live or function as one polygamous family. Effectively, they were separate monogamous families. At 35+ Robyn still had not lived polygamy, she thought that she had, but actually had not.
This is why I keep saying "Robyn NEVER lived polygamy " and still hasn't!
After marrying Robyn, the other marriages basically ended. They became becareful platonic realitonships.
The only reason they moved from Vegas was because Robyn could not allow Dayton to go to school without her!
Christine was not asked to take care of Kody and Robin's children, there was suddenly a nanny. So Christine was passed over. but the idiotic thing was that Robin doesn't work outside the home and she can raise the children herself. So while Robin doesn't bring in any money, she does rely on the family's money. So who should pay for the luxurious cat Robin?
Meri did not trick Kody into marriage. Kody is a follower not a leader. Kody was craving the approval of other men. It was his dad, her dad and the men in the AUB who coerced him. Meri loved him, she did not trick him. Meri was on the fence about monogamy vs polygamy. She chose polygamy because Kody wanted it. He decided it.
It is no coincidence that Kody & Robyn orchestrated this move to flagstaff when Dayton got into college there. It was disgusting honestly what they put the FAMILY through.
100% agree
You all are so nice. Robyn never wanted one house, and her and Kodys "fight" was super fake. They wanted to be separate from the family.
At this point Kodi and Christine were not having any intimacy, not even hand holding or touching. It is easy to see why Christine wouldn't want to see Kody and Robin being all loved up when she wasn't even getting her hand held I mean really that's like torture
Oh but poor Kody complained he could not openly show affection for princess Robyn. Kody can complain about not openly showing his legal wife affection while he spent a decade giving the cold shoulder to three wives. Kody said in a TV he answers to a "high calling". Guess that calling does not include how he treated Christine, Meri & Janelle.
Kristine's youngest and Robyn's youngest are only one year apart! Your perception is so interesting, because it's Robyn who positions her children as babies, because Kody likes children who ACT like babies.
Solomon and Truely are a year apart, but Robin had Ariella like 4 years later.
There’s a miscarriage between Sol and Arie/when people kept saying she was pregnant-she was/she admitted it when she and Kody were outside and she wanted to have a little dark hair baby that she kept seeing in her vision
And robins youngest still has a dummy at 5 years old
Robyn NEVER answered- if Robyn wanted 1 house Kody would have built it! But what a waste of money on blueprints!
The show probably paid for it to create a storyline
@@pattyelaine9563 - Totally agree. What I couldn't figure out is how expensive the slab would be for that thing! Concrete alone would run one into the poor house!
Christine offered to help Robyn with her children from the very beginning. It was Robyn nixed that idea. Christine was heartbroken. Meri offered and Robyn refused the offer, again. Robyn calls the victim card so well that many believer what she says at face value.
When you get to the season where she wants to move back to Utah and got a yay from Kody only for him to gaslight her after talking with Robyn about it you will get it.
I hate to disagree with anything either of you say. However, I must disagree that they would have lived in one house, if it were not for Christine. Robyn did not cheer for the house. As a matter of fact, it would have been 10x more obvious that he is always in Robyn's wing. She refused to move into the Utah shared home, although she did not work and the family had to pay her rent.
Christine was the only one who was honest. Janelle was just desperate to get rhe family back together, and she was lying to herself that this was the solution.
I feel terrible for Meri, being a mother of one, wanting equal treatment, barely having time to bond when they decided to keep looking for wives. but not getting any actual love from Kody because they had to live this lifestyle, the idea that the move to flagstaff is because Robyn wanted to be with her son, she didn't want him away from her. Unlike his older adoptive brothers and sisters who were told to move out. So everyone having to move again and everyone unable to live together. It's no wonder she's so guarded with the life she had before Kody and during this life she had. If they stayed alone together-Kody may have left her because he wanted kids. Meri isn't innocent but to me she has the most trama, just on the principle of the lifestyle. Three years and no child yet, three years and he has her sister-in-law as a partner, then Christine enters the family, finally she gets a child, but she can't stand her sister wife ex sister in law, she's the legal wife for the longest time, it's her only prize until 2010, or so they get another person involved, younger, still able to bare children, the hope for a friend who then betrays you. Meri right now is doing what's best for her by moving on, which is what i got from her talk on camera with Koday that Robyn was trying to handle. Meri had to come to it herself and say she was done trying to be part of a family and man who no longer wanted her.
I never got why the heck they left. It was so dumb to leave such a good set up
In the first season Cody said that it was his job to make it work. Not the wifes.... the husband have to make all wifes feel equal loved
Robin has always demanded special treatment for herself and her children. Because Cody favors her, he has given in to her demands. All this at the expense of the rest of the wives and children.
Right. And he would never give any of the other wives special treatment.
I am very much enjoying your commentary. I think you bring a unique perspective that many of us do not have.
What is unique about polygamy is not good and what is good, is not unique. Im glad Melissa pointed this out! They have referenced the blessing of polygamy since the beginning of the show and i have always thought it was so strange! We can all have people help with our children and running out homes without polygamy!
Love hearing both your perspectives on these shoes. I get very annoyed with that gossip channelw commentaries on these shows but I love the honest, just not catty approach to commentary.
Definitely want to hear your views after Season 18...if nothing else, to see if your views have changed since first watching it.
Christine has always wanted to belong somewhere. She wants to put down roots and be able to say “this is home”. 😊
Hey Melissa and Sam! Love your videos! I'm fascinated by polygamy - always have been. Would never want to do it though.
As far as a bit into Meri and Kody's early relationship, in their book it goes into that people in the church group (which Meri was raised in her whole life) never noticed her until Kody came along and started dating her. She admits that she was a wallflower. Kody talks about that he fell in love with her because she listened and respected him.
Apparently at some point, not too far into the marriage, Meri became assertive. Kody even had a license plate on his car that said "Petruchio" or shrew tamer. I can't remember which - it's in the book. Point is, I THINK that's why Kody felt tricked. He thought she would be a shy, quiet, submissive wife and she turned into the opposite, or always was the opposite around people she knew well.
Bonnie (Meri's mother) was the principle of the AUB school that Meri and even some of the Brown kids attended. Bonnie was very no nonsense and domineering, at least when dealing with the school. No idea if she was that way towards her husband, but we know from Meri and Janelle's past that Meri was raised in a home where opinions were voiced loudly and strongly. Honestly, she must have hid that a bit from Kody in the beginning, or maybe she was just following him around totally love struck. Twenty years later I'm still pretty love struck by my husband so I wouldn't fault her on that one.
Keep the videos coming! Sam - thanks for all the inside info into the FLDS.
** Edit I'm also not a Robyn hater. I just think Kody fell head over heels in love with her and didn't hide it. **
Just curious... have you read their book?
It kìnd of helps with understanding the issues between the wives. Kinda is the key word there.
Also the contradicts alot we actually saw and heard on the show.
I find the difference between the show and the book interesting
The truth is somewhere in the middle
You guys should do a reaction to your Season 18 reaction. See if your opinions have changed. That might be fun! 😊
Robyn didn’t grow up in a one house polygamous family. She grew up in a different state than her step father’s first family. She wanted to be Kody’s favorite family, not just part of a big family.
I agree with some of the prior messages, you are missing that Robyn didn't want her sister wives to watch her kids but wanted a nanny. Robyn started off to separate her and her children
Janelle was the least connected to Kody. She wanted communal living. She wanted 'friend with benefits' with Kody.
Ysabels back surgery! Wait until u see that interaction within the family. I do believe 100% that was Christines final straw bc Kody hurt Ysabel by refusing to go.
They lies Meri didn't move because they didn't want a polygamist family in their neighborhood they neighbors complained about the crew trucks and filming interfering with their neighborhood
I think Christine was so against the one big house because she had already decided to leave and was financially preparing and she had a house in her name alone. If she moved into the big house she would have to put her money into it and then she wouldn’t have her nest egg.
Oooh good point
I strongly disagree! Robin has chosen to isolate herself and her family from the bigger family. It's been like that from the beginning. Her words are hollow.
Cody tries to pretend to be all hippy dippy cool but his temper reminds me of my abusive father. Neglect and emotional abuse are still abuse.
Three of Robyn’s four kids in school were in a perfect moment in school to move. One was entering college, one entering 9th grade first year of high school and the other entering 1st grade if on time if not kdg. Janelle and Christine had Gabe, Gwen, Savannah, Ysabel either in the middle of high school or for 8th grade. What a year to move. I changed schools middle of 2nd and then again for 8th and the 8th grade move was the roughest. And Truely was like going into 3rd?
Hi Sam and Melissa. I just love watching your videos. I’m re watching the whole series now to. I’m on season 16 now. I think season 19 will be sad with the passing of their son Garrison. I can’t even imagine what they all are going through. It’s going to be a tough one for sure.
Christine was a major player in raising the original 13 children. How can you say she doesn't seem into the whole family dynamic ??
I think they just meant she is laying low from all the Flagg Staff immediate housing drama some of the other family members are experiencing.
Robyn yelled at Garrison for telling Sol not to hit. Remember Maddie and Mykelti often went to Robyn’s during courting and after to babysit for Robyn’s kids. Before Robyn as in all big families the older kids were responsible for the younger kids. Robyn would not want a big house where another mom or a big sibling might tell her precious child something. No one wants a committee to raise their kid. But don’t engage in polygamy.
Does it ever come out that they moved because of Robyn and the college thing?
No, it seems like it is Kody's idea, and Robyn is into it.
Season 14 Tshirt, "don't share a man". Meri is an extremely jealous, how does she not know herself enough to know she's not built for polygamy. The Brown Teenagers knew themselves enough to know they are not living polygamy. Meri takes it out on all in her life cause she can't be mad at Kody, she's mad at the world!
I hate to bug you, but I think it would be cool to watch you review season 18 again. 😬
Carolyn Jessop argues Polygamy should be legal because it legally protects the wives.
Christine was on her way out, that’s why she didn’t want to live in a shared house. The writing was on the wall, and she had an exit strategy, sharing a house would have ended that.
Kody said Meri made Robyn give up or change her plot. Robyn does this. She reworks things after going to Kody’s room and suddenly the plan for everyone changes.
By the way, the phrase "Where one of us goes, we will go together," is a QAnon phrase. I'm not sure but seems to me like Kody went off the deep end when it comes to conspiracy theories.
If Robyn wanted one house he would have gotten it and the others gone along like they did with the move to AZ or left. On a different parcel of land. It was not buildable on this plot of land. It was 4 lots in a subdivision of single family homes. This is not the man to accept financial or real estate or property information from. He has creative financing. He wants to turn 4 lots into 5. They would have done that already. Does he think he is brighter than everyone else? OMG. The one house was simply content. Their content always revolves around moving and real estate. Kody should host a house hunting show on TLC.
I agree…My mom had girlfriends for years that we stayed in their home. We kids bunked together and had a blast. Truely (none of the kids)didn’t even have a place to spend a weekend. These are siblings and they don’t do overniters? This was the most divided family for trying to pull off a polygamist
Robyn didn’t try to keep the relationships with the others to actually get her goal for polygamy. Cant have your cake and eat it too. Can’t stay separate but expect the others to make it stay all together. Makes no sense.
Can someone explain how Christine bought a house but no one else did? Like Mari already had the Utah house but why did Janelle buy a house ever? When it seemed easy for Christine to be able to buy.
Christine demanded a stable home for her kids. That meant owning the house. Also, Christine had trained as a realtor and understood the financial benefits of owning over renting. Christine was already working towards financial insecurity and independence.
Christine couldn’t find a house to rent , so she bought. Janelle and Meri rented. And Janelle sunk a lot of the proceeds from her Vegas sale into Robyn’s down payment, leaving her cash strapped.
I don’t know how the wives put up with all the moves! 😊
I just wanted to remind you both how much I appreciate and enjoy your unique perspective on the Brown family behavior. I know their religion (supposedly) plays into a lot of what they do, but inwardly, I definitely think the OG3 leaving their marriage, their covenant, perhaps even their faiths--that's a HUGE deal that not many TH-camrs (great as they are) highlight. Why? Probably because they've never been in a cult. Much peace and happiness to you both.
Kody controls the money from the show. But because of that they are involved in a businesss which means they do have claims of some of the assets. AZ needs to do an audit.
You are so right. If they can't share a home; you are not a polygamous.
Melissa should take Sam to visit Chicago, and make a stop in Nauvoo! They're not super close (about 4 hours apart), but would be totally worth it.
I wonder if the tlc contract played a part in how long they stayed and meri still being on show even though she was kinda on her own. Wonder how Robin gets away with barely filming and her kids rarely on show. You never hear about her family. And there was talk about Dayton and college. Was the move to flag staff for his college or did he decide to go there after the decision.
And have you ever been to Michigan? Our ocean lakes are beautiful. Upper penninsula and lake Superior is amazing
Mary is the only person in the family who acknowledges every single child..
This must be the season that I stopped watching, because I don't remember any of this.
What Kody says is "Where we go one, we go all." It's a Q-Anon saying. I can't remember who said it in an interview, that Kody was on the Internet a lot and went far right-wing.
She lived in another state with her mom and the guy came over every now and then. That was the polygamy she had in her head. 2 families and 2 states.
I’m not saying Janelle did not sacrifice- she was the main breadwinner for a while. However, she was very vocal about loving being a career woman and not really enjoying being at home. Christine was not only the child care, but also the cook and educator. Janelle said in the first season that she would go to a movie after work and I thought was wild considering Christine did not seem to get those kind of breaks. I think polygyny appealed to Janelle because she had the best of both worlds while Christine felt like everyone else’s needs came before hers and her children and if she protested, she got a lot of pushback, and maybe not just from Kody. I was surprised that Janelle said she was surprised Christine had such inner strength and resilience during Truly’s kidney failure. I was surprised that she underestimated Christine because I think she had the HARDEST job with hardly any appreciation or support. Remember when she had to study for the real estate license test and NO ONE was helping her? I think Christine and Janelle became as close as they did in Flagstaff because things had become so acrimonious with Kody that Janelle felt like she had no choice but to take a stand. Had she been willing to still cover for Kody because he was throwing her some scraps I don’t know if they would have become best friends. Meri thought she had a best friend in Robyn but as time went on and especially during COVID, I think it was heartbreaking for Meri to
Rrealize that she was way more invested than Robyn was in the relationship and that besides those children, she was alone. And the children is why I think she stuck around as long she did.
I can’t believe you fell the Robin and Kody act that Robyn didn’t want to buy a house. You guys seems to miss a lot of
Would love your take on the show Secrets of Polygamy with Matt Browning.
I would love for you to explain all of the things Robyn said about the religious beliefs, like thinking God would provide them with a house and even the angels singing comments. These are all things as a secular person I don’t understand.
Meri wasn’t cut out for plural marriage IMO😮🤷🏼♀️ my husband and I were married in our early 0’s now in our 50’s, 5 kids and 33 years later we definitely grew up together 💜
Gwendolyn brown has a TH-cam channel where she explains some episodes from the kids point of view
I can’t be the only one who cannot figure out what is just SO beautiful about coyote pass, right? It looks like a barren wasteland with plague-ridden gopher poop and a mud puddle. Sure, there’s a view of a mountain…. But no grass!? And the kids can’t play in the dirt because of the plague. We just bought 40 acres in MN and it’s lush and green with trees and grass so I just don’t get it with the rocky dirt lol…
Why didn’t any of the wives put 2 and 2 together about AZ. Dayton was clearly accepted to college before they moved.
Robyn wanted to move because of her son attending college in Flagstaff. That’s why they moved.
Robyn thought the older “original” Brown kids bullied her kids and never accepted her as a mom. She was never comfortable letting the other wives watch her kids, hence she had to have a nanny.
She would not spend all that money if she wanted it. She would not let Kody buy a ring cause he wants it all the time. There is no reason they didn’t have 4 fully paid off homes during their Vegas time.
“Four single mums trying to have a relationship with a man whose running around like a chicken with its head cut off “ That’s a perfect synopsis of the show lol
They are horrible money managers. For having a show for 18 seasons they have little to show for it.
Meri and Janelle were okay with it. Christine was a hard no and Robyn never chooses anything but her own family.
Why didn’t Meri help Janelle move?
Okay 1st the wives would have been idiots if they believed Kody was financially disciplined enough to build that monstrosity. 2nd who in their right mind would want to watch him stay in Robyn’s apartment and dote on her kids while he emotionally neglected and abused the rest? And Robyn made sure she had complete control of her kids, her house, and her husband. Her kids were not allowed to stay at anyone’s house.
Call Linda what he was doing when he divorce Mary and Mary Robin because I think he wants all of them to leave him. He don’t wanna be the one to say he don’t wanna be rude. He’s with the one who wants to be with and she’s with the one she wants to be with meaning Robin so it’s just a matter of time Cody just wanted the money that’s all.
It seems like acts of service is Meri’s love language.
We see Robyn put her foot down ON-CAMERA…. robyn is always pulling the strings or turning the neck of Kody. Look for the clues… they are starting to show.
Suddenly Kody wants a plot. Wait….
She could not stay at Robyn’s with Kody all over Robyn and having neglected her for over a decade.
Sometimes I think that you two are just too nice to see how awful Robyn and Kody are. You make excuses for them and give them so much more credit for being decent than they deserve. Keep watching though, and you will see. Great channel you have here, so interesting
I think Meri and Kody a great couple. Bothered by patio doors, showers, wet bars and nightstand heights wanting it the way they want it. They would have had another kid if not for the nights she wasn’t getting time… I think later on before his kid(s) out of the house they would have divorced and he would have gone for a younger model and done a do over with a few more kids. Meri would have been actually free in her early 40’s. Maybe late 30’s and young enough to have another with a new partner with reproductive assistance or with step kids still at home. Tragic.
Janelle and robyn were both married prior to marrying Kody !!
You are all much too nice! Robyn is truly a wolf in sheep's clothing.
But I thought that in “the principle” was that the wives could only reach the highest level of heaven through their marriage. If that is one’s belief then a wife might feel trapped, spiritually, in this marriage.
He has a child with Meri, thats the way he abouts about his child's mother.
Meri isn’t innocent, but Kody used Meri as his heavy for the other wives. She also was a major money maker for the family. Also, the other wives see Meri as “ the disciplinarian” and she was the one that they targeted. There always has to be the odd one out.
Is sams parents all together yet ? After all the kids have moved out will they stay together . Empty nesting is a big change
You are so sweet and real
Being too young when you married and that’s what doesn’t work out. It’s just a big excuse we you met at 17 married at 18 and it lasted 58 years. It would’ve been longer if my husband had not died from cancer. It’s obeying God and keep falling in love with your husband.
Call me naive...I still dont see neither Kody nor Robyn as super vilains...i feel sorry for all of them. They want it to work but it is just not doable for several reasons.
And now Robyn has all of Coyote Pass !
I believe it hasn’t been their choice to have 1 husband , right ? They were forced into it ,
What a farce that show has turned in to. One problem with the show continuing on is not just that they are no longer polygamists, but also most people cannot stand Kody and his behavior. He is totally an unlikeable human, so there’s that and it is a huge turn off!
I'm sure Merrie's infertility plays a big part in the marital problems and her resentment of the other wives.
Especially since both Janelle and Christine had children before her.
Islamic plural marriage guarantees each wife her own sleeping, bathing room and kitchens. They can be attached or separate.
No it needs to be prosecuted not made legal.
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I think all the woman were nasty to Meri.
Robyn was so fake about not want to buy a house. But demanding rental with 6 bedroams…. 🫤