Indicate the vise on a milling machine in just one pass
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ธ.ค. 2011
- Time spent on machine set-up is time lost making chips. Here's a quick and simple method to indicate the vise in just one pass and in less than a minute.
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These are the kind of time saving tips that you learn from experience, because in industry, time is money. Unfortunately most instructors never get enough practical experience to learn them so students get the traditional book version instead.
Glad you enjoyed the tip, I'll see if I can come up with a few more.
Tom
Dude, its been 12 years since you did this but you still just sped up how fast I indicated my mill vice back.
Lol. That is still one of my favorite time savers.
I've been a machinist most of my adult life and have never seen this method. That's awesome
Wow. Tried today tramming in two vises and Ive gotta say I never thought I'd be able to indicate one that quickly.
One minute ago I saw a smart set up, in 2 passes, but You beat that! Beautiful!
Just in case no one caught what the real trick here was; you preloaded the vise 1 degree to ensure that as soon as your indicator touched the right side of the vise jaw, it was going to do nothing but climb further up the dial, also letting you know exactly what side to hit the vise on to get the needle to stop moving.
Damn good idea. I'm pretty quick on this, but me thinks I'll be faster after this video.
A keyed vise, with a swivel base and this technique could certainly prove to be lightning fast on a quick dial in.
That's the trick. Glad you enjoyed the video.
tom
Just saw this. Not a new idea, but a good one to share with anyone but the boss.
Toms Techniques I watched about 4 other videos on squaring a vise, and this was by far the best - and most definitely the fastest method. Thanks!
Genius, and one handed! I thought Tom at Oxtool made tramming the vice look easy, but my goodness, you made it look even easier!
Thank you, I'm off to my worship to give it a go.
What do you mean? I still have two hands. :)
Old Guys Rule! Thanks Mr, looking forward to new films. Cheers from Sweden.
The older we get, the lazier we get. Which is why we come up with all these tricks.
That is the first time I ever saw that method, and I WONT forget it. I love learnihg the little tricks of the trade but make a huge difference. Great job Mark
If we were in the 1600's you my friend would be exceuted for witchcraft and sorcery. But since this is 2019 you are the best of TH-cam , congrats on your impeccable timing sir.
Sweet! Thanks for taking the time to share this. At work we don't have a power feed, we're not a machine shop, but at home I will certainly be employing this time saving method from now on.
Wow, that must be magic. I got to try that next time I need to indicate my vice. What a great helpful tip, thank you!
That was incredible. That's the fastest indicating I've ever seen.
Thanks for sharing.
Just made my life easy . used to go back and forth trying to do this no more Thanks
It's a simple concept, but it saves a lot of time.
Thanks for watching.
A bit of caution is required when using this method. My rule is never to trust an indicator that doesn't move. However, for getting the vise close, I'd say this is the slickest method I've ever seen.
all the small things like this are why an apprenticeship is so valuable... unfortunately i never found a program and i'm not even sure if they exist for this anymore, because this is the most fascinating trade of them all
This is a great tip. I always spend more time than I need squaring the vice to the table. Thanks Tom!
You are very welcome
Mind blown as well... I wish they would teach stuff like this in school. Just teach us how to do things the most efficient way. Thanks for this video.
From now on, this will be the way I do it too. Thanks a million!
Daniel
You are very welcome.
I'm a mechanical designer and do all my own prototyping at home. I'm also an avid gunsmith and am currently building a single shot Steven's rifle from scratch. You can see the build thread in the gunsmithing section of Metalworking Fun.
Are you some kind of a magician?
It's all smoke and mirrors. :)
⬆️ Smoke and mirrors = extreme competence and confidence in the tools and machines he’s working with!
Very clever - I will try it next time. Perhaps it will cure me from avoiding moving my vise unless absolutely necessary. Your videos are great, I really enjoy them.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
You should never be afraid to angle your vise. That's one of the best way to make angled surfaces on parts.
Glad you are enjoying the videos. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you as well.
Tom
Thanks James, I'm glad you enjoyed the video. The bar on the back of the vise is a work stop, You can get them from MSC for about $60.
Tom
Thanks.
That's one of my favorite tips; simple, but it saves a lot of time.
Tom
Fantastic! Got a milling grin out of that one. Simple and very effective. Thanks for sharing
It does making indicating the vise less of a chore. Glad you liked it.
Thanks, that's one of my favorite shortcuts.
Yes, it is possible to be fooled by an indicator not in contact with the work (voice of experience). In this case though it moves quite a bit at the start and less as you tap on the vise, so you get verification that the indicator isn't fooling you. I'm glad you enjoyed the tip.
Wow! Can't believe I didnt think of that. Thanks for the tip, Tom.
+RumpLeINtiLINsKinnIN
It definitely makes aligning the vise more fun. Thanks for watching.
Tom
OK... I had occasion to try this trick for the first time this morning. Well... the Last Word aint gonna be working up such a sweat anymore. Sakes alive that was dope slap simple. Took me longer to set up the indicator than to tram the vice. One of those things that you just don't understand why you didn't think of yourself. Then you remember you don't really know what you are doing... yet. Take the vice off the mill? No worries! Thanks for a slick tip, Tom!!
Sounds like a success story!
Glad you liked the tip.
Tom
Thanks Fred.
I'm always looking for ways to save time. Even if it's only a minute here and there, they all add up.
Tom
Hi Tom , I have just purchased my first mill and can't wait to have a go..I find your videos very informative and with enough detail to teach us mugs out here some really good techniques .. A lot of others with tuition videos will go over something too many times making it very repetitive and boring . I like your straight to the point teaching method .thankyou very much for taking the time to produce a quality and informative video . I will be a very regular student .. Regards jeff
Thanks Jeff and welcome aboard.
Tom
i cant believe i never thought of that!, not that i do it everyday but when i do need to do it, this is now the way i will. Thanks!
I came up with the idea 20 years ago or so and it's the method I've used ever since. Just make sure the travel of the indicator is centered so it doesn't bottom out or lift off the jaw as it traverses.
Tom
Unbelievable talented gentleman you are.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the video. I'll be sure to check out your adapter.
Tom
Brilliant. So simple and yet so important.
Thanks
What a great timesaver! Thanks Tom..
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.
nicely done, Tom, thanks, I've never seen it done quite this way, and I'll not forget it!
Thanks Jim, it does save some time.
Tom
You said it Jim!
Thanks Ray, glad you are enjoying them.
Tom
I'm actually up to my elbows in a project now that is being posted over at Metalworking Fun. It's a single shot rifle that I'm building form scratch and documenting the entire process. There aren't any videos yet, but I am planning on making one on drilling and rifling the barrel. There is a lot of machining processes in that thread. If you are interested, go to the Metalworking Fun site and look in the Gunsmithing section for "Building the Steven's Favorite".
I would have gone from one end to the other as I'm sure others would have. This is very useful. Thank you for sharing.
Yup, works just like magic.
Thanks,
Tom
Good lord, what a cool tip. Thanks Tom!
Glad you liked it.
Tom
Dang. Of course, I knew I was not the only one who hated moving my vice. Now, we are all saved! I even went so far as mounting it on the right side of my table so I could do other work on the left without disturbing the vice. The benefits of using the less used areas of the ways notwithstanding, I don't have to dread moving the vice anymore. As a noob grasping for the keys to wisdom, the word I keep coming up with when watching your vids is PRICELESS! Perhaps the only problem will be that I will get through them all faster than you can make them!!!! ;-)
You can always build the project tutorials, that will slow you down a bit. :)
tomstechniques.com/tutorials/
Thanks for watching.
Tom
Tom's Techniques Ha! If it were another realm, perhaps. Here, I am best left to study & learn from YOU!
Thanks, it's always fun saving time.
Thanks for a really straight forward method.
+Leslie Mueller
Thanks for watching!
Good job Tom!
Holy cow...what a great tip. Thanks so much...subscribed!
Thanks William.
. It might take a try or two to get the hang of the technique, but once you do it will save a lot of time.
Tom
Great video and time saver.
Great video 👍🏼
Thanks, glad you liked the tip.
Very great tip Tom. Thanks for sharing :-)
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it.
Okay, I have to add my thought: That is just too freakin' COOL!
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it.
Excellent video for a rookie like myself. Keep them coming!
Thanks Drew. They have been many more since this one and there will be many more to come.
Thanks for watching!
Tom
Great video!
Awesome. Thanks for sharing the knowledge!
+ZEPP_0 About to binge watch your channel haha
What can I say except - BRILLIANT!
Glad you liked it.
Awesome tip!
Yeah Thanks,
I got to see some of the same today. Won't take much to duplicate. Thanks for the reply.
Wow just goes to show you everything can be made right with a hammer. Great video.
A hammer, or a bigger hammer. :)
Thanks
All I can say is WOW awesome!!
Nice trick, and quick. Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it.
Woooohoooooooo!!!!!! Thank you very much for the awesome tip, you are the man.
Thanks & Best Regards,
Jon
Thanks. You Tube doesn't allow links in the comments section, but the address is in the video description above. If you Google Metalworking Fun, you'll find it as well.
This video must every machinist see it❤❤
Brilliant. Thanks Tom!
Glad you enjoyed it.
Wow that's a way good Technique... I am New to milling and this this is really very fast to indicate. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching.
G day Tom 👍 well done, Awesome 👍 🍺
that was pretty smooth! thanks for the tip...
Brilliant! Thank you so much for the tip.
Nice tip !
Thanks Brett.
Awesome thank you for your videos bud
Great tip 👍
Thanks! thank! thanks! How cool! I just saw this valuable technique.
+TheBdd4
Thank you for watching. This is one of my favorite tips.
Tom
That was quick. Cool!
Collin Bru
Thanks. With a little practice, you can get it aligned before the indicator gets half way across the jaw.
Very amazing man
superb tip
Super cool tip , thanks
Thanks for watching.
Simple and effective - like all the best tips. Thanks.
Glad you liked it.
really good videos, they bring a smile every time,, great... ray
It's called an Indicol holder and Penn Tool sells it. You'll need to select the model appropriate for your machine.
Mind=Blown Awesome! Thank you!!
nice makes sense !!!!! i use interapid also but i always do the half and half
Works far better on a swivel vise as shown rather than a traditional vise bolted right into the ways, where the interference between the studs and the way channels is often the real culprit, but it's a nice trick regardless.
Now, that was cool! Thanks.
Tom I've been watching your videos since I stumbled on them while searching for hardinge HLV-H -videos. Two suggestions to assist us noobies. Mention the gear you use and why for example what type of vice you use drilling chuck, micrometer etc. A good example where you did this was with the taps on the power tapping vid. Getting the benefit of your experience when it comes to tool selection is invaluable. The otherthing is to mention special tools you have used in the comments eg the indicol Thanks again for great videos I am learning fast!
That's a good suggestion. I tend to take the tools I use regularly for granted and forget the bad decisions I've made on tool purchases over the years. I think the biggest waste of money I've ever made on a tool was for a co-axial indicator. I paid $350 for it (name brand) and rarely use it. It takes way too much vertical space and just isn't worth the time it takes to crank the knee up and down to make room for it, especially when a simple edge finder does just as good a job.
Glad you are enjoying the videos and thanks for watching.
Tom
Thanks, simple is good.
That was slick--master machinest..
Thanks, it works pretty well.
Thanks, glad you enjoy them.
I have been thinking about some new videos and am open to suggestions. What would you like to see?
Awesome technique i will reply after i try it
Amazing!!! Took me several iteration to get within 0.01mm.
i love this so simple
That is just awesome!!!!!
Thanks. It definitely saves time.
Thanks for the tips
You are welcome.