What I truly like about these videos is the voice over content and none of that anoying music. Great start can not wait to see the finished item. Thank you so much for all the information.
another idea take two flat hard steels cut them up in a jigsaw pattern then swap the pieces around as you restack them in a canoe cannister and forge them back together. Jigsaw Damascus! 😁
a trick to more easily get the canister off get some stainless steel foil and wrap the billet in that before putting the canister around it the stainless will act as a barrier to prevent the canaster from welding to the interior billet
Cool video I'm fascinated with the patterns being done from ppl forging, it's really cool. I'd love to get into this as a hobby. The problem is getting the equipment and tools to do so. Only thing iv done like this is basic shop class casting and stuff but I feel like anyone can play around trying to make something as long as they're not completely inept with their hands and as long as the beginner thinks safety and patience a lot to Start. Anyone have an estimate of cost for an absolute basic setup? Minus normal drills/hand tools and stuff, for someone that just wanted to play around with it
Crazy that knife could not be legally carried in Texas until HB 1935 passed only a couple years ago! Nuts that a "Bowie" knife would be illegal in TEXAS!.
Freerk Wirenga does a similar thing with cutting grooves in his Damascus billets, but does drill partly through too so he gets circular patterns down the blade as well.
When your drawing out the billet under the press with the round dies it helps with keeping square by alternating drawing the stock through at 90 degrees to the dies and then 45 degrees each way on each side of the billet. In the same heat if you can. If not keep note of orientation and complete and repeat on the next heat.
you really need a mig welder , your introducing slag you just dont need and porosity is 10 times more likely with arc. Plus arc is designed for 3 mm and above thickness material with the smallest rods you can get ,
I agree. I never welded something like this, but It may split at the welds unless using a wire that would hold up to the job at hand. Since you heat the entire billit up, it may not be a problem. Guess you would have to test it first. 7018 stick has good properties for what he's doing here obviously, and it does the trick.
@@yourdrummer2034 a fuse weld with a tig torch would hold find until the forge weld was pressed. He likely doesn't have a tig welder or has experience with one. Stick welding is very basic and practical. You don't need gas shielding and it's a cheaper set up.
I see you have a face shield, but if that disk shatters while you're leaning over it like that, your neck is right in the target zone!!! I know you gotta see, but you should seriously consider a different sight angle.
Newby question why do you choose to use a stick welder over mig personally I find mig a hell of a lot easier to use. But I’m wondering if I’m missing something slowly putting my workshop together and it’s not something I’m really looking at getting do I need one? Great work by the way really enjoyable and informative content
I like the voice-overs as well. I sure have been getting a lot of questions about the knife you made for me. I hope it will bring you some business. Well done! stay safe my friend.
I kind of cringe calling it Damascus, but Pattern Steel speaks to me. My studies in my return to college were Metallurgy and Metallography. And my Proff did an experiment with a one inch piece of actual Damascus steel blade. He cleaved the head off a garage 8 bolt then viewed it under our Scientific Microscope to show us no deformation in the blade. The advent of the SEM allowed the detailed examination of Demascus steel. It surprised the community and finally explained it's abilities. And the only way to truly reproduce is to include the impurities or excess elements they found. Hence my liking Pattern Steel better. Love the replicas though. Thanks for your efforts.
You should attach a piece of round steel to your press handle and run in down to the floor and make a foot pedal. That way you can use both hands to control what you're working on.
You should do 432 layers. As to 432 hz. The golden frequency. It’s said to be the frequency that everything in the universe naturally gives off or is attracted to.
Both are likely a medium to low carbon steel designed for toughness, particularly the sucker rod. Likely means alloy components, would make a tough tool in both instances.
I having a small mower company..."Sorry so Long’ Not all employees treat mowers/blades with the same TLC..Blade's comeback: Bent, Cracked,Shatter,Chuncks missing,Dull..!i! Wonded would Damascus steel mower blades save time&money??
Some knife makers would add something of an organic nature into the canister (things like pepper, dryed spices, leaves, etc.) In order to burn and use up the oxygen trapped in the canister. A SMALL hole must be drilled in the canister to allow the gasses to escape, otherwise you have created a bomb.
Why is it that you use 1095 and not 1084? Doesn’t 1084 etch darker due to the higher manganese content. Plus the identical heat treating process with 1084. I use to use 1095 but recently changed to 1084. Maybe a good video discussion topic.
I like the higher carbon content for a bit better abrasion resistance in the 1095. The 1095 still darkens really well. The main difference in heat treat is the tempering, and that is dialing in a temp that works for the bar of Damascus you've created.
The reason the dimensions are slightly oversized is that the supplier doesn’t want to be sued for selling a particular dimension and the item being slightly smaller.
Impressive, instructive video as always. Did want to ask what you did with the cutoff portions of the actual cutting parts of teeth . Would they be good inside a canister billet in a future build?
I certainly agree they might not be carbide, I was thinking of a sanmai build with the curved blade ends adding a unique Damascus motif on the outside of the blade along with Center being made with a more dependable steel.
Using that cutting disc without a guard is the most dangerous thing you can do my friend . If it breaks and hits you in the face or body it's like a bullet.
I had a call from a mate yesterday. Cutting disc failed and almost took two fingers off his left hand. Luckily they’re ok because the disc bounced off the bone in both fingers but took 20 odd stitches to put them back together. Those guards are a pain in the butt BUT the consequences of not using them are pretty dire. A facemark is mandatory anyway but good luck forging without all your fingers
Beautiful art, BUT, wouldn’t the more practical and predictable blade be achieved by straight stock removal and finish forging of the sawmill blade itself?
That cutoff wheel looks like its way too big for your grinder. Its practically touching your fingers. Plus the bigger ones are rated for lower rpms, it could explode on a small grinder that spins faster than a big grinder.
Hi brother ! Why don't you try to do pattern steel , but without using power tools ... No electric welder , no hidraulic press , no gass forge ... Just use classic blacksmith tools .
It's gunna be badass and probably my new favorite lol as is the case every time you finish a new blade. When should I be watching out for part 2? I seem to miss out on a lot of stuff i want to watch. I guess with this i know where to go look for it at least
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What I truly like about these videos is the voice over content and none of that anoying music. Great start can not wait to see the finished item. Thank you so much for all the information.
Thank you sir
another idea
take two flat hard steels
cut them up in a jigsaw pattern
then swap the pieces around as you restack them in a canoe cannister and forge them back together.
Jigsaw Damascus! 😁
You do very nice work it's art in steel thank you for the videos I know it's a pain in the butt
so cool to see a frost notch bandsaw blade get repurposed into a new life!
I love the care and percussion you put into all your work. You are a true artisan
I get an education from everyone of your videos
Thank you from NC 🇺🇸
Thank you sir!
We are a band saw manufacturer in Guangzhou China, glad to see you here, we can communicate and learn together.
Great video. I said this before but I like the voice over. You include more detail that way and more "personality."
Thanks!
I worked in a sawmill and we tossed out bandsaws that wide and 40 feet long nearly everyday. nice to see some of that scrap put to a good use.
Yeah, that's too bad! Thanks for watching
What variety of saw mill was your old job? I’ve been looking around at the ones in my town and none use blades anywhere near this large
Very nice and professional
Another one to watch again.
Time is NOT the essence. Quality is!!!!!!!!
The saw blade is wicked.
Yep, its a giant band saw mill blade
Awesome to see these processes.
So much science during the blend and forging, very fascinating.
Thanks for sharing these.
You bet, thank you!
Texan here, and I approve
Well done brother
Thank you
I love the voice over commentary. Your personality really comes out. The best. nice work.
Thanks Jake!
Awesome informational educational video experience Y'alls God Bless Ya 🙏
Thank you, appreciate you watching!
You're Welcome 😊 🙏
love that hydraulic press.🤤🤤 off to watch your vids on it
a trick to more easily get the canister off
get some stainless steel foil and wrap the billet in that before putting the canister around it
the stainless will act as a barrier to prevent the canaster from welding to the interior billet
9:51--Dewalt undergoes trial by fire.
Neat build
The mall ninja in me just wants to turn that saw blade into ninja stars
Cool video I'm fascinated with the patterns being done from ppl forging, it's really cool. I'd love to get into this as a hobby. The problem is getting the equipment and tools to do so. Only thing iv done like this is basic shop class casting and stuff but I feel like anyone can play around trying to make something as long as they're not completely inept with their hands and as long as the beginner thinks safety and patience a lot to Start. Anyone have an estimate of cost for an absolute basic setup? Minus normal drills/hand tools and stuff, for someone that just wanted to play around with it
I plan to do a video on an inexpensive setup soon here on the channel
Crazy that knife could not be legally carried in Texas until HB 1935 passed only a couple years ago! Nuts that a "Bowie" knife would be illegal in TEXAS!.
Yah!!
My local refractory maker has bricks and or cement for many different heat ranges. May be worth a look. I cast my own brick lining for a wood furnace.
Great work so far, and it's nice to see someone else using their "shooting ears" protection in the shop.
Thanks!
great video.👍👍👏👏
Thanks for watching!
Very informative. Keep the videos coming. Can’t wait to see the progress!
Freerk Wirenga does a similar thing with cutting grooves in his Damascus billets, but does drill partly through too so he gets circular patterns down the blade as well.
Cool, so a ladder / raindrop combo sort of
Hint tig weld with a fuse weld bead, no contiminat
Excited to follow this build!
Thanks for watching!
That was a massive bandsaw blade.
time is money buy a cheap plasma cutter then just quickly grind off the edges. learned this in welding school.
When your drawing out the billet under the press with the round dies it helps with keeping square by alternating drawing the stock through at 90 degrees to the dies and then 45 degrees each way on each side of the billet. In the same heat if you can. If not keep note of orientation and complete and repeat on the next heat.
Que coragem você está sem a proteção da lixadeira.
good work
Awesome! I am surprised how fast you moved and got set back up!
Thanks! Yeah it went pretty well
you really need a mig welder , your introducing slag you just dont need and porosity is 10 times more likely with arc. Plus arc is designed for 3 mm and above thickness material with the smallest rods you can get ,
Get yourself a needle scaler. Cheap. Easy. Fast way to be sure you got all the scale off.
Why not tig weld the billet after the original weld? You can tig without filler rod and not add any mild steel.
I agree. I never welded something like this, but It may split at the welds unless using a wire that would hold up to the job at hand. Since you heat the entire billit up, it may not be a problem. Guess you would have to test it first. 7018 stick has good properties for what he's doing here obviously, and it does the trick.
@@yourdrummer2034 a fuse weld with a tig torch would hold find until the forge weld was pressed. He likely doesn't have a tig welder or has experience with one. Stick welding is very basic and practical. You don't need gas shielding and it's a cheaper set up.
I see you have a face shield, but if that disk shatters while you're leaning over it like that, your neck is right in the target zone!!! I know you gotta see, but you should seriously consider a different sight angle.
Nice presentation style on this one
Thanks!
Newby question why do you choose to use a stick welder over mig personally I find mig a hell of a lot easier to use. But I’m wondering if I’m missing something slowly putting my workshop together and it’s not something I’m really looking at getting do I need one? Great work by the way really enjoyable and informative content
A MIG would be preferable, I just don't have one yet.
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I heard you mention Jason Knight he doesn't use flux either.
Done correctly no flux is needed
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I like the voice-overs as well. I sure have been getting a lot of questions about the knife you made for me. I hope it will bring you some business.
Well done! stay safe my friend.
Thanks Steve, I appreciate it
Aside from a bot, looks like Im first. Nice work, looking forward to part 2!
Yeah i know, sick of it. Thanks!
I kind of cringe calling it Damascus, but Pattern Steel speaks to me. My studies in my return to college were Metallurgy and Metallography. And my Proff did an experiment with a one inch piece of actual Damascus steel blade. He cleaved the head off a garage 8 bolt then viewed it under our Scientific Microscope to show us no deformation in the blade. The advent of the SEM allowed the detailed examination of Demascus steel. It surprised the community and finally explained it's abilities. And the only way to truly reproduce is to include the impurities or excess elements they found. Hence my liking Pattern Steel better. Love the replicas though. Thanks for your efforts.
Nice to know your closer to me now ,I’m in Blanchard Oklahoma buddy 👊
Cool man!
And I’m from Woodward
@@dirtfarmer7472 do you forge also ?
@@jamesball7322 oh no that looks like a lot of work, retired truck driver, I like to watch art being done
i use 120 grit for damascuss prep
You should attach a piece of round steel to your press handle and run in down to the floor and make a foot pedal. That way you can use both hands to control what you're working on.
Just did a couple weeks ago :)
You should do 432 layers. As to 432 hz. The golden frequency. It’s said to be the frequency that everything in the universe naturally gives off or is attracted to.
2 questions on scrap metal:
What kind of steel is sucker rod Usually?
Same question for truck axle?
Both are likely a medium to low carbon steel designed for toughness, particularly the sucker rod. Likely means alloy components, would make a tough tool in both instances.
@@FireCreekForge would they be different enough for a demascis pattern? And I suppose industrial zero turn lawn mower blades similar also?
@@billwoehl3051 I don't think it would be different enough for a good pattern
I think it would be cool to do like a sanmai and show the saw teeth. since it's a texas bowie you should use some texas long horn horn on it lol
I’d be afraid it would have to many inclusions or stress points from the sharp corners
I had not thought of that , would Probably be a bad idea then
I having a small mower company..."Sorry so Long’ Not all employees treat mowers/blades with the same TLC..Blade's comeback:
Bent, Cracked,Shatter,Chuncks missing,Dull..!i! Wonded would Damascus steel mower blades save time&money??
Great video but an angle grinder guard is probably a good idea....
Yes probably !
Some knife makers would add something of an organic nature into the canister (things like pepper, dryed spices, leaves, etc.) In order to burn and use up the oxygen trapped in the canister. A SMALL hole must be drilled in the canister to allow the gasses to escape, otherwise you have created a bomb.
Why is it that you use 1095 and not 1084? Doesn’t 1084 etch darker due to the higher manganese content. Plus the identical heat treating process with 1084. I use to use 1095 but recently changed to 1084. Maybe a good video discussion topic.
I like the higher carbon content for a bit better abrasion resistance in the 1095. The 1095 still darkens really well. The main difference in heat treat is the tempering, and that is dialing in a temp that works for the bar of Damascus you've created.
Fire Creek Forge. I understand your point now. I didn’t think about abrasion resistance.
The reason the dimensions are slightly oversized is that the supplier doesn’t want to be sued for selling a particular dimension and the item being slightly smaller.
Impressive, instructive video as always.
Did want to ask what you did with the cutoff portions of the actual cutting parts of teeth .
Would they be good inside a canister billet in a future build?
Not sure if these are carbide edge inserts, if so that would be problematic
I certainly agree they might not be carbide, I was thinking of a sanmai build with the curved blade ends adding a unique Damascus motif on the outside of the blade along with Center being made with a more dependable steel.
Using that cutting disc without a guard is the most dangerous thing you can do my friend . If it breaks and hits you in the face or body it's like a bullet.
Yes, there's a level of risk. I am wearing a full face shield when using it.
I had a call from a mate yesterday. Cutting disc failed and almost took two fingers off his left hand. Luckily they’re ok because the disc bounced off the bone in both fingers but took 20 odd stitches to put them back together. Those guards are a pain in the butt BUT the consequences of not using them are pretty dire. A facemark is mandatory anyway but good luck forging without all your fingers
When are you going to come over to the Dark side? Ribbon burner forge?
Probably when I have time to build one
I thought the table in the thumbnail was the blade and you made a texas style bowie. Since... everything is bigger in texas...
Why don't you use sodium tetraborate powder?
For videos like this we need playback speed 4x
Could 15n20 be used for the can? And just forged into the billet. Just curious why most smiths use mild steel.
It could but greater chance for voids or incomplete welds where steel meets perpendicular on the sides..
That makes sense. There's no way to get all layered edges to line up exactly the same.
Where is a good place to find those sawmill blades when you don't live near any sawmills?
I don't know..
Are you welding them with Lo Hi or 6010/6011? Looks like 6010?
6013 I believe
Beautiful art, BUT, wouldn’t the more practical and predictable blade be achieved by straight stock removal and finish forging of the sawmill blade itself?
Is there a difference between the steels of bandsaw blades and huge sawmill circular saw blades?
Wonder how it would work if you made damascus using those flat & round clock springs
forging damascus
Sir the best I know use Stainless Steel Hose Clamps.
That cutoff wheel looks like its way too big for your grinder. Its practically touching your fingers. Plus the bigger ones are rated for lower rpms, it could explode on a small grinder that spins faster than a big grinder.
looks like insulating fire brick on the outside can you get class a firebrick?
Hi brother ! Why don't you try to do pattern steel , but without using power tools ... No electric welder , no hidraulic press , no gass forge ... Just use classic blacksmith tools .
Hello, yes I have done that a couple times
Where did you get the bandsaw blade?
Great video.
I see that your hydraulic press is sitting very high, is there a reason or its just preference?
Yes, I can't stand stooping over to work :)
If any of that WD 40 is left after you weld it probably reacts with any oxygen present inside of your gaps
It will burn off and leave a little extra carbon behind.
Didn't see you use any flux ?
Correct, zero atmosphere forge welding so no flux needed
Good afternoon. Does anyone have a good place to buy bandsaw blades like these?
I don't know of any, best bet would probably be to contact the nearest lumber mill.
Where did you get the saw blade?
I have a friend who works at a saw mill
you need an oxy acetylene torch bro kicking up all that dust is just awful every time you make demascus coupons.
i'm not a fan of 3M sandpapers, they make some great products, but sand paper is not one of them
I do not like their sandpaper, I do like this particular belt for a lot of things
I use wd40 and borax as flux and get perfect welds every time
Yep, those work well
Since when does Walter White do forging 😂
get some Kayle wool for it
Why dontyou clean the surfaces while the pieces are big then it wouldn't be so tedious then after cutting a spray with denatured alcohol attack them
This guy also no need iron vitamin from The Doctor .
Nice work dude! Btw: how much pressure does the hydraulic press?
Thank you. My press runs 24.5 tons
Omg
It's gunna be badass and probably my new favorite lol as is the case every time you finish a new blade. When should I be watching out for part 2? I seem to miss out on a lot of stuff i want to watch. I guess with this i know where to go look for it at least
Thanks man! Can't say for sure on the next installment, but videos will be out Tuesday and Friday from now on.
Goodd
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Please put the guard on your grinder and wear gloves I just don't want you to loose any fingers , those cut off wheels will blow up.
Use all the WD40 you want.
Press looks real uncomfortable at chin level.
I hate stooping over, so I made it that high on purpose
Ninguna protección, 0 normas de seguridad, la verdad es todo lo que no se debe hacer!!!
Why is every second TH-camr removing the angle grinder guard 🤦🏻♂️
I personally do it for a better field of vision. (I know the irony behind that considering it can take away your vision if something happens.)
We’re skilled enough to make a straight cut with out twisting the grinder pinching the disc, shattering it into pieces.
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You could have forged that without wrapping it up use a ton of borax and Forge that shit up
Did you steal peewees bike chain for your anvil?