I just purchased a bent Falcon estate pipe this week after seeing a video by my good friend Peddling Piper. I acquired one earlier this year and sold it, as the chrome finish was separating from the metal and it just looked funky. But I'm excited to get it this week. This was helpful; never knew about the moisture absorbing ring, or that a normal pipe cleaner works just fine. I paid extra for the raptor feathers with which I was told it had to be cleaned.
A falcon pipe was the first "real" pipe I ever bought - I had only had basket pipes and cobs before then. They are great pipes and with the variety of bowl shapes you are bound to find one that you like. If you want a larger bowl then look for the "classic" range of bowls like the Snifter and Hyerbole. I primarily smoke outdoors and find that other pipes will overheat, but the radiator effect on the falcon works well in conjunction with a wind cap and keeps the smoke very cool. I doubt you'll notice much difference smoking indoors. As for moisture buildup I find a quick flick of the wrist and a blow through the stem is enough to dislodge any moisture before putting the bowl back on mid smoke. I use a falcon "extra" stem which is anodised and I don't find any metallic taste at all, maybe because the anodising is on the inside as well as out. I've not used the regular metal stems for a while so can't comment if I tasted anything in those. A quick note on the stem and pipe cleaners though. First, the reason thin pipe cleaners are recommended is that larger cleaners have been known to split the stem along the seam. I find normal pipe cleaners to be ok but any extra fluffy cleaners that give any kind of resistance when you're inserting should be avoided (and yes, falcon's pipe cleaners are quite expensive and there are numerous other thin options out there). Second, you shouldn't actually be able to remove the mouthpiece and stem and falcon states you shouldn't try to! I think these are great pipes for beginners and also a necessary part of any piper's collection!
I have 3 old Falcons of the original shapes and they are brilliant for my St Bruno, Walnut(now named Original) flake and Condor tobaccos.I have had them all for 30 plus years and you would think to look at them they were brand new.A few tons of baccy have been drawn through these boys(or girls)got to be careful with the "sisterhood" nowadays, and they were the working mans pipe here in Britain, and fantastic smokers,indoor or out.No need for little pipe rings or special pipe cleaners.Jim.Liverpool.
I have a few Falcons. I also taste a slight metallic hint to the smoke but I use these for aromatics and stronger tasting tobaccos. I dedicate one bowl just to Ennerdale as that ghosts terribly. As you point out, the ease with which you can swap out the bowls makes this a non issue for me. I still mostly smoke briars when it's a known and trusted blend, or corncobs when trying out something new. However it's nice to have the Falcons sat there on standby.
Saw someone smoking one of these the other day; I've always been tempted by falcons, but never made the plunge. It is also a very cheap way to get a Meershcaum lined or even full Meerschaum pipe bowl without having to buy a proper Meerschaum.
Very nice review, I can add that you can clean the stem by simply putting it under a Fawcett! Simple and very easy, they are small but smoke very well. Please give and update when your pipe is more "broken in" and also when you get more Falcon Bowls. Peter
One thing that occurs to me is that this makes a good travelling pipe. If one stores the bowls together and the stems bundled together, it's possible to carry several variations of pipes in the same space it would take to carry two. Perhaps a good camping pipe?
I like my Falcons. The only drawback for me is that when you are smoking them in front of people who are not used to pipe smoking (which is most people nowadays) they think I am smoking some weed...
Glad you reviewed this. I recently got an International from Amazon.com ($31.99 w/o the bowl). One thing you forgot to mention is that the International takes a 6mm filter. It will take the balsa or paper Medico types if you opt to use one. I put a softie bit on the International because the plastic stem is a bit uncomfortable on the corners of the mouth. It handles aromatics pretty well, especially with the meerschaum-lined bowl. Cheers and Happy New Year.
puppetshow360 yes I bought the international type which has a black stem which gives the impression that it looks more like a full brier type pipe , but they are a nice pipe and the beauty of them is the different types of Bowles give you a greater choice of style on a cheaper cost , instead of having to purchase a complete pipe which can be costly depending on what your requirements are , so Happy pipe smoking .
At the price you mention, I could see this as a good alternative when you don't want risking breaking a shank, like when you're working outside. Same for travelling, since you don't have to let the pipe rest and can just switch bowls.
Very nice review Bradley. I have an original US Falcon. They smoke great & easy to clean ( kitchen sink ). The only negative I have is that the bit is really not designed to be removable . I give two thumbs up ! ;-)
I really enjoy your videos. The format of your reviews, particularly the tobacco reviews, is the best I’ve seen on TH-cam. Recently I decided to try Elizabethan Mixture since you seem to love it so much. That might not of been a good idea because I’m hooked! Now I’m hoping you can suggest a good English blend. Something with small(ish) amount of Latakia since I’ve not done will with it in the past. My wife would also appreciate something with a decent aroma as well. Keep up the great work, and let us know when you’ve found your EM replacement!
I have the falcon extra brown hunter, I bought one as I didn’t have a falcon in my pipe collection. And yes it definitely does give a dryer and cool smoke and I’m a briar man as a rule but what I like about this pipe is that it’s so light and I can continue to work with my hands and forget that the pipe is in my mouth as it’s so light and I can happily continue to smoke while getting my hands dirty. I’m actually smoking my mix of Samual Gawith cherry and vanilla 50/50 mix with Erinmore which is an excellent mix and such an enjoyable smoke. I have the rustic bowl on mine as it tends not to get too hot. And would I buy another well yes I suppose I would in time when this one gets past its best. Pipes are horses for courses what suits someone may not suit another but it’s all trial and error and with the falcon they are cheap enough to try without breaking the bank.
I have three of these: One like that, another twisted yellow, and an International. I am not a fan of the Falcon mouthpiece, though. It just feels like plasticky plastic. But exchanging the bowls is fun. I just like Falcon with them (EEEEE-EEEE-EEEE).
I live in the UK 🇬🇧, and I was cheated because my beautiful Falcon pipe came via our old postman ..Oops , post person now isn’t it lol ..But the pipe smoked none the worse for that ..Love it , thanks for showing us .
Bradley, I just watched this again, after rejuvenating my Falcon. It is still spot-on. And so is my earlier caveat; cleanliness is next to godliness. These pipes cannot be "seasoned," like a traditional briar. And whether you buy the Falcon "Dry Ring" or make your own, SOMETHING to absorb moisture is absolutely essential. They remind me most of a meerschaum, as far as flavor goes. Both are a bit of a pain in the ass, but the Falcon is less-so.
I have the international bought complete for £29. 98 p / UK very good value for a good pipe and qualitys good . But you get a dry smoke . Like your videos by the way , thank you .
Fun review to watch while learning something! I believe the FDA is outlawing pipe delivery via an actual falcon sadly. I hope to hear a tiger sound when you pop Bengal Slices open!
Good review. Pretty much what I expected. I have a H. Wiebe radiator for almost 2 years now and enjoy it a lot. It's a new take on this classic concept. I think that the Wiebe radiator is a better pipe than the falcon, but alas I have yet to try a falcon pipe. @stuffandthings You should check out the Radiators if you get an opportunity. They have, however, become quite a bit more expensive than the Falcon system.
A Kirsten is equally good or even better. They have the same basic system (interchangeable bowls), but can be completely disassembled and washed out (NOT the bowls). The only problem is that the "O" rings wear out eventually and need to be replaced (if you can find them).
Just buy generic o rings from Lowes or Home Depot, it is what I've done with my estate Kirsten. Only need to find the right size. I've lost my package insert but I believe the size of the ones I've been using are 1/4".. possibly a little larger.
Thanks for that tip! I never thought to actually measure them. I had assumed that the rings would be some bastard size that could only be obtained through Kirsten, ( so that they were exclusive and hence could charge more for them ). BTW, a new Kirsten pipe is a lot more expensive than a new Falcon, so, one has to take the cost benefit ratio into consideration.
Older Kirstens use a compression fitting on both ends. No need for O-rings. works fine for me. Just keep clean or they will corrode and stick. Made in Washington State since 1946, so i'm told.
I have one stem and two bowls. One thing I would stress is that with Falcons, cleanliness is next to Godliness. They tend to gunk-up faster than all-briars, which can cause problems with the threads, which results in a wet smoke. Regular cleaning with pipe cleaners dipped in Everclear is recommended. That aside, your assessment is spot-on. Falcons smoke cool and dry, as promised, but do not have depth of flavor.
An appealing instrument but I found the quality of smoking not equal to a good or even medium quality briar pipe. I guess that also the quality of briar itself plays a role. I prefer the bent shape. Happy new year, Bradley
It's VAT, not VATS. You've been playing too much Fallout Bradley. :) Interesting review. Falcon Pipes are VFM for sure. Buying different bowls for different blends/blend types and still keeping the cost low(ish) is a boon.
AAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Bradley...all I can say is YOU ROCK BROTHER!!! I just recently found your channel and subscribed. All I can say is that I wish I had found your channel a couple of years ago. I have been an avid pipe/cigar smoker and firearms collector for 25 plus years. You do an absolutely, positively wonderful job with your reviews! Meticulous in your details and maybe even equally as important, you are absolutely hilarious! I truly love your sense of humor - it's completely in sync with my sense of humor and I often times find myself laughing out loud at some of the things that you say that are funny. Quite a few things that you say that amuse me are sometimes slightly nuanced, but that is what makes it great!! I'm curious to know if by chance you happen to have a background in acting or theater? Your personality strikes me as somebody who may have a background in acting. Regardlesd, keep up the great reviews and Happy 2018!!!
excellent pipes, i have numerous falcons, don't bother with the meerschaum lined bowls, they give off quite an odd taste. if you see a pipe smoker in England chances are they will be smoking a falcon.
Always seemed gimmicky to me. By always I mean the five years I’ve been smoking a pipe. A little surprised the design has been around since the thirties. Love to meet a piper who owns and smokes one regularly.
Put a one inch piece of pipe cleaner down the hole in humidome, then put tobacco of choice into humidome. Fit together fill bowl, light and smoke. Let me know. Smoke an English and put an aromatic in the humidome. Keep the stems in the fridge. Let me know. Get an after market Meerschaum bowl. One Apple and one Hyper. Use a jet lighter.
(a year later) as an avid cob smoker I'd agree, but as far as traveling/camping this is fill that use a bit better. I own 9 cobs and treat them like my briars, they smoke great, but those shanks can break out way too easily. This being able to break down the way it does solves that problem, I also think a caked briar smokes better than a seasoned cob
My preferred pipe in winter, truly amazing combined with a meerschaum bowl! ❤
Due to funding cutbacks in the UK postal service the Falcon is now unfortunately delivered by pigeon, which lacks a certain degree of glamour.
A horrible shame!
Nice review...but I would have liked some more falcon sounds just to make the point clear...otherwise some ppl might mistake it for a squirrel pipe.
Duly noted.
I just purchased a bent Falcon estate pipe this week after seeing a video by my good friend Peddling Piper. I acquired one earlier this year and sold it, as the chrome finish was separating from the metal and it just looked funky. But I'm excited to get it this week. This was helpful; never knew about the moisture absorbing ring, or that a normal pipe cleaner works just fine. I paid extra for the raptor feathers with which I was told it had to be cleaned.
A falcon pipe was the first "real" pipe I ever bought - I had only had basket pipes and cobs before then. They are great pipes and with the variety of bowl shapes you are bound to find one that you like. If you want a larger bowl then look for the "classic" range of bowls like the Snifter and Hyerbole.
I primarily smoke outdoors and find that other pipes will overheat, but the radiator effect on the falcon works well in conjunction with a wind cap and keeps the smoke very cool. I doubt you'll notice much difference smoking indoors. As for moisture buildup I find a quick flick of the wrist and a blow through the stem is enough to dislodge any moisture before putting the bowl back on mid smoke.
I use a falcon "extra" stem which is anodised and I don't find any metallic taste at all, maybe because the anodising is on the inside as well as out. I've not used the regular metal stems for a while so can't comment if I tasted anything in those.
A quick note on the stem and pipe cleaners though. First, the reason thin pipe cleaners are recommended is that larger cleaners have been known to split the stem along the seam. I find normal pipe cleaners to be ok but any extra fluffy cleaners that give any kind of resistance when you're inserting should be avoided (and yes, falcon's pipe cleaners are quite expensive and there are numerous other thin options out there). Second, you shouldn't actually be able to remove the mouthpiece and stem and falcon states you shouldn't try to!
I think these are great pipes for beginners and also a necessary part of any piper's collection!
I have 3 old Falcons of the original shapes and they are brilliant for my St Bruno, Walnut(now named Original) flake and Condor tobaccos.I have had them all for 30 plus years and you would think to look at them they were brand new.A few tons of baccy have been drawn through these boys(or girls)got to be careful with the "sisterhood" nowadays, and they were the working mans pipe here in Britain, and fantastic smokers,indoor or out.No need for little pipe rings or special pipe cleaners.Jim.Liverpool.
I have a few Falcons. I also taste a slight metallic hint to the smoke but I use these for aromatics and stronger tasting tobaccos. I dedicate one bowl just to Ennerdale as that ghosts terribly. As you point out, the ease with which you can swap out the bowls makes this a non issue for me. I still mostly smoke briars when it's a known and trusted blend, or corncobs when trying out something new. However it's nice to have the Falcons sat there on standby.
Saw someone smoking one of these the other day; I've always been tempted by falcons, but never made the plunge. It is also a very cheap way to get a Meershcaum lined or even full Meerschaum pipe bowl without having to buy a proper Meerschaum.
Very true.
Very nice review, I can add that you can clean the stem by simply putting it under a Fawcett! Simple and very easy, they are small but smoke very well. Please give and update when your pipe is more "broken in" and also when you get more Falcon Bowls.
Peter
One thing that occurs to me is that this makes a good travelling pipe. If one stores the bowls together and the stems bundled together, it's possible to carry several variations of pipes in the same space it would take to carry two. Perhaps a good camping pipe?
I like my Falcons. The only drawback for me is that when you are smoking them in front of people who are not used to pipe smoking (which is most people nowadays) they think I am smoking some weed...
Hi Bradley, I'm pretty happy with my Falcons. The bowls are a bit small making for a shorter smoke but they make nice knock about pipe.
Glad you reviewed this. I recently got an International from Amazon.com ($31.99 w/o the bowl). One thing you forgot to mention is that the International takes a 6mm filter. It will take the balsa or paper Medico types if you opt to use one. I put a softie bit on the International because the plastic stem is a bit uncomfortable on the corners of the mouth. It handles aromatics pretty well, especially with the meerschaum-lined bowl. Cheers and Happy New Year.
Definitely worth it, when I first got mine I did genuinely feel the smoke cooler and it does smoke dry
Mad Max Beyond Humidome!!
I bought a Falcon a few weeks ago, I love it.
puppetshow360 yes I bought the international type which has a black stem which gives the impression that it looks more like a full brier type pipe , but they are a nice pipe and the beauty of them is the different types of Bowles give you a greater choice of style on a cheaper cost , instead of having to purchase a complete pipe which can be costly depending on what your requirements are , so Happy pipe smoking .
At the price you mention, I could see this as a good alternative when you don't want risking breaking a shank, like when you're working outside. Same for travelling, since you don't have to let the pipe rest and can just switch bowls.
Another great and fair review! I enjoy my falcon very much, especially full of Condor RR!
Must try smoke outside in winter. Extra cool experience😉
Very nice review Bradley. I have an original US Falcon. They smoke great & easy to clean ( kitchen sink ). The only negative I have is that the bit is really not designed to be removable . I give two thumbs up ! ;-)
I really enjoy your videos. The format of your reviews, particularly the tobacco reviews, is the best I’ve seen on TH-cam. Recently I decided to try Elizabethan Mixture since you seem to love it so much. That might not of been a good idea because I’m hooked! Now I’m hoping you can suggest a good English blend. Something with small(ish) amount of Latakia since I’ve not done will with it in the past. My wife would also appreciate something with a decent aroma as well. Keep up the great work, and let us know when you’ve found your EM replacement!
Can't go wrong with Dunhill Standard as a good, basic English. Gawith Squadron Leader is a good bet too.
Just snagged a great condition one off of ebay for $15 as a knockaround/travel pipe. Looks like it needs a polish and good to go
I have the falcon extra brown hunter, I bought one as I didn’t have a falcon in my pipe collection. And yes it definitely does give a dryer and cool smoke and I’m a briar man as a rule but what I like about this pipe is that it’s so light and I can continue to work with my hands and forget that the pipe is in my mouth as it’s so light and I can happily continue to smoke while getting my hands dirty. I’m actually smoking my mix of Samual Gawith cherry and vanilla 50/50 mix with Erinmore which is an excellent mix and such an enjoyable smoke. I have the rustic bowl on mine as it tends not to get too hot. And would I buy another well yes I suppose I would in time when this one gets past its best. Pipes are horses for courses what suits someone may not suit another but it’s all trial and error and with the falcon they are cheap enough to try without breaking the bank.
Thanks for sharing!
I have three of these: One like that, another twisted yellow, and an International. I am not a fan of the Falcon mouthpiece, though. It just feels like plasticky plastic. But exchanging the bowls is fun. I just like Falcon with them (EEEEE-EEEE-EEEE).
Good review on the falcon , I'm thinking of getting one which is the new type the stem bent .
I live in the UK 🇬🇧, and I was cheated because my beautiful Falcon pipe came via our old postman ..Oops , post person now isn’t it lol ..But the pipe smoked none the worse for that ..Love it , thanks for showing us .
Bradley, I just watched this again, after rejuvenating my Falcon. It is still spot-on. And so is my earlier caveat; cleanliness is next to godliness. These pipes cannot be "seasoned," like a traditional briar. And whether you buy the Falcon "Dry Ring" or make your own, SOMETHING to absorb moisture is absolutely essential. They remind me most of a meerschaum, as far as flavor goes. Both are a bit of a pain in the ass, but the Falcon is less-so.
Hopefully I’ll find mine soon!
I have the international bought complete for £29. 98 p / UK very good value for a good pipe and qualitys good . But you get a dry smoke . Like your videos by the way , thank you .
Fun review to watch while learning something!
I believe the FDA is outlawing pipe delivery via an actual falcon sadly.
I hope to hear a tiger sound when you pop Bengal Slices open!
You can get aftermarket briar and meerschaum bowls from DGE Pipes, 4noggins, and DropBearWoodworks.
My late father did favore these strange pipes, Best Greets, Paul
Excellent reviews, Bradley - could you do Rattray's Red Rapparee at some point? I think it's mild enough for me, gonna buy it soon. Pete
Are there any issues taking the bowl off mid smoke while the briar is hot?
Good review. Pretty much what I expected. I have a H. Wiebe radiator for almost 2 years now and enjoy it a lot. It's a new take on this classic concept. I think that the Wiebe radiator is a better pipe than the falcon, but alas I have yet to try a falcon pipe. @stuffandthings You should check out the Radiators if you get an opportunity. They have, however, become quite a bit more expensive than the Falcon system.
Happy New Year and have good smoke Bradley !
A Kirsten is equally good or even better. They have the same basic system (interchangeable bowls), but can be completely disassembled and washed out (NOT the bowls). The only problem is that the "O" rings wear out eventually and need to be replaced (if you can find them).
I've never seen one in person, but I'll keep my eye out!
Just buy generic o rings from Lowes or Home Depot, it is what I've done with my estate Kirsten. Only need to find the right size. I've lost my package insert but I believe the size of the ones I've been using are 1/4".. possibly a little larger.
Thanks for that tip! I never thought to actually measure them. I had assumed that the rings would be some bastard size that could only be obtained through Kirsten, ( so that they were exclusive and hence could charge more for them ). BTW, a new Kirsten pipe is a lot more expensive than a new Falcon, so, one has to take the cost benefit ratio into consideration.
Older Kirstens use a compression fitting on both ends. No need for O-rings. works fine for me. Just keep clean or they will corrode and stick. Made in Washington State since 1946, so i'm told.
Have an estate one and love it.
I was just watching WW2 in color on Netflix. The final victory in Japan episode, I noticed an officer in the war room smoking a Falcon pipe.
I always get excited when I see a pipe smoker anywhere in anything lol.
Thanks for a very comprehensive thorough review. !!!
Glad it was helpful!
Great overview of the Falcon pipe. Thank you. Is that Stereolab being played at the beginning of the video?
Nope! Just some copyright free music from TH-cam.
I have one stem and two bowls. One thing I would stress is that with Falcons, cleanliness is next to Godliness. They tend to gunk-up faster than all-briars, which can cause problems with the threads, which results in a wet smoke. Regular cleaning with pipe cleaners dipped in Everclear is recommended. That aside, your assessment is spot-on. Falcons smoke cool and dry, as promised, but do not have depth of flavor.
Nice review, would you suggest this for a beginner's pipe?
An appealing instrument but I found the quality of smoking not equal to a good or even medium quality briar pipe. I guess that also the quality of briar itself plays a role. I prefer the bent shape. Happy new year, Bradley
Excellent review Bradley. Congrats. I liked it so much. Thanks a lot.
It's VAT, not VATS.
You've been playing too much Fallout Bradley. :)
Interesting review.
Falcon Pipes are VFM for sure. Buying different bowls for different blends/blend types and still keeping the cost low(ish) is a boon.
I think the older the bowl gets the smoke improves,
AAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Bradley...all I can say is YOU ROCK BROTHER!!! I just recently found your channel and subscribed. All I can say is that I wish I had found your channel a couple of years ago. I have been an avid pipe/cigar smoker and firearms collector for 25 plus years. You do an absolutely, positively wonderful job with your reviews! Meticulous in your details and maybe even equally as important, you are absolutely hilarious! I truly love your sense of humor - it's completely in sync with my sense of humor and I often times find myself laughing out loud at some of the things that you say that are funny. Quite a few things that you say that amuse me are sometimes slightly nuanced, but that is what makes it great!! I'm curious to know if by chance you happen to have a background in acting or theater? Your personality strikes me as somebody who may have a background in acting. Regardlesd, keep up the great reviews and Happy 2018!!!
So glad you found the channel! I've dabbled in acting, mostly in college.
Well done! Loved the finish.
excellent pipes, i have numerous falcons, don't bother with the meerschaum lined bowls, they give off quite an odd taste.
if you see a pipe smoker in England chances are they will be smoking a falcon.
Always seemed gimmicky to me. By always I mean the five years I’ve been smoking a pipe. A little surprised the design has been around since the thirties. Love to meet a piper who owns and smokes one regularly.
Do you still use this pipe? I quite like mine, but haven't seen you use yours in a while.
Man! Thanks for this! I knew nothing about these and always wondered.
Have you tried your Falcon stem’s heat radiation/dissipation with hotter tobaccos like straight Virginia’s or VaPers?
Now do a review of Condor plz
I think my dad had one of those pipes back in the 60s.
nice touch with the falcon sounds :D
Put a one inch piece of pipe cleaner down the hole in humidome, then put tobacco of choice into humidome. Fit together fill bowl, light and smoke. Let me know. Smoke an English and put an aromatic in the humidome. Keep the stems in the fridge. Let me know. Get an after market Meerschaum bowl. One Apple and one Hyper. Use a jet lighter.
Let me know...
It's aluminum and you are heating it..... no issues with that healthwise?
I can taste metallic from phalcon too, so i don’t smoke it too much
1:57 Hey, I see nothing wrong with living in the US and having my pipes delivered by the eagle.
Bradley many thanks for the entertaining channel. Best wishes for 2018.
Falcon doesn't recommend trying to remove the stem. It is permanently installed
Good review.
Damn, I messed up. I paid $60 from a US retailer. Oh well I will order extra bowls from GQ
Seems to me that a Missouri Meerschaum cob pipe has similar benefits, lower cost.
(a year later) as an avid cob smoker I'd agree, but as far as traveling/camping this is fill that use a bit better.
I own 9 cobs and treat them like my briars, they smoke great, but those shanks can break out way too easily.
This being able to break down the way it does solves that problem, I also think a caked briar smokes better than a seasoned cob
I'm noticing you can say smoke now?
Not going to take your word for the difference in taste after seeing the coke vs pepsi blind test ^_^
By the way is of course "water faucet" nothing to do with a girl!
Peter
Groovy
Sea Hawk pipe with, Sea Hawk ambient sounds maybe next time. -lol, 😊📬🌲✔
Im going to buy a kirsten pipe than after that a falcon
No need for a softie thing. Them mouthpieces are impossible to bite through.
Ah, but the bit is there to protect ME, not the pipe! I find it hurts my teeth to clench a hard stem without a bit.
Pipes were perfected the moment someone made a cherrywood churchwarden.
We got the same bowl and stem. Great minds, eh?
Blücher!
Very unattractive. No elegance. I'll stick with my all briar Venini.
after smoking a costello sea rock..........a falcon?muh hahahahaha..........good vid not a big fan of falcons though!
It's not bad! Not at the same level as my Castello or Dunhill in terms of smoking enjoyment obviously, but it's not bad at all for the price.