FULL METAL JACKET (1987) | FIRST TIME WATCHING | MOVIE REACTION
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- Full Metal Jacket (1987) First Time Watching Movie Reaction, Review, and Commentary for JL. Many moments feeling heartbroken (and terrified) for Private Pyle and MANY moments wondering why nobody listened to anyone in this movie were had.
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I love how R Lee was originally just a advisor but took over and improvised almost 95% of his dialogue
The original actor meant to play the part of Hartman is the helicopter door gunner.
Best way to shoot a movie, I say.
If he ever ran for office, I would have voted for him. Too bad he passed away.
R.I.P. R. Lee Eremy
I love how commenters race to be the first to post the same factoids on every movie.
☝️🤓
My dad is a Vietnam veteran. I was raised as a tomboy against my mother's good wishes. I watched this movie when I was a little girl with my dad at home in our living room on a weekend. The following Monday at school I was suspended for 3 days, want to know why? Because I did a drill during recess shouting how Eskimo p**** was mighty cold. 😂😂😂😂😂 my mother no longer allowed my father to have movie night with me on the weekends. I love you Daddy. ❤😂
No lie I just hurt my neck laughing at this 😂
I love you! 😆
God bless your dad & if he’s still around, tell him welcome home from me. I tell that to all Nam vets.
I think this is the greatest response ever!
I just prolapsed my arse from laughing so hard at this.
Historical bit: The Secretary of Defense, Robert McNamara, developed and enacted "Project 100,000". This effort lowered physical and mental standards for draftees during Vietnam to increase numbers. The military developed a perjorative for these recruits, "McNamara's Morons". This was a horrible mistake as these recruits died in disproportionately greater rates than those who fit the original standards.
This probably inspired Private Pyle's character.
One of the most disgusting "projects" the Department of Defense ever created.
They did that for Iraq & Afghanistan too. Just no draft. That’s how I got in with a previous collapsed lung.
I was denied entry 10 years earlier but in 2008, I was welcomed with open arms.
This was an illegal draft, politicians caused the entire situation. Regular Americans were like WTF? MK ultra was pretty bad too! They wonder why we don't trust the Government. LoL
But yet tRump got out of serving due to "bone spurs"........
"Gomer Pyle" was originally a character from the Andy Griffith show, but later got his own spinoff where he joined the Marines. He was meant to be portrayed as a naive but pure-hearted character but often came off as a simpleton. The name ended up being adopted by the Marines in real life to insultingly refer to people like Lawrence, either less intelligent recruits or people that constantly screwed up.
Well, Golly!
Gomer used to grin his heart out when Sgt. Carter yelled at him. To him it meant the Sarge cared.
Jim Nabors who played Pyle has a beautiful singing voice. TH-cam has an episode where he sings with an orchestra. Lovely! ❤🇺🇸
"Do they make fictional war movies?"
Starship Troopers: "Am i a fucking joke to you?!" 🤣
Saving Private Ryan is also fictional.
@@redpillfreedom6692 I think he meant movies about wars that didn't actually happen. I could be wrong.
@@paullanier3597 Star Wars?
@@mraxlrose2959No, that war happened, it was just in a different galaxy, a long time ago...
@@lmcgregoruk Far far away?
I recently learned something new about this movie after watching it a hundred times- On the firing line when Leonard reloads his rifle, the magazine he ejects and casts aside is only partially empty. It happens in full view of the camera, and Kubrick would surely do that deliberately. It's a possible set-up to explain how Leonard was able to sneak live rounds into the barracks.
When I went through boot camp in 2003 they would check you head to toe for any live ammunition or anything from the firing range for that matter. I mean your rifle is locked up at all times anyways at the barracks. We did the whole this is my rifle thing a couple times but that was about it. We did tie a recruit up to his rack with dental floss at night because he kept getting us slayed on the quarter deck.
Interesting theory indeed bro. Never saw that as I have watched the same scene a hundred times.😂 thanks for that .
Private Jokers name is J.T. Davis in the movie. The first recorded American killed in Nam was James T. Davis.
"Five foot nine? I didn't know they stacked shit that high!"
I learned it after watching this movie.
When they hit Pyle with soap, that's what you call a blanket party.
Unfortunately, we did it to someone or they I should say.
Friend of mine who was in basic mentioned a couple people got the "blanket party" treatment.
We use to tie dental floss to a guys ankle and attach it to the bed frame when they were sleeping (as a joke).
we did that, but instead of tying them to the bedframe, were ran the strings under the bunk, over the head side and tied them off to their thumbs. Very funny to wake someone up like that DI style.
@@DukeTheSPO0K
@@DukeTheSPO0K The guys straight up cease animation when they sleep? I would have eventually changed positions....
Boot camp scene is one of the most realistic scenes in motion pictures. Yall just cant imagine life 50 years ago. PS these boys about to go to war, being nice doesnt help anyone
Being nice would’ve helped the drill sergeant, and could’ve helped many of the officers who were “fragged” by soldiers who hated them. It happened so often they needed a word to describe it. Dehumanizing training that’s designed to make people kill others without hesitation is dangerous for everyone
war and times were different back then. These soldiers did not choose to be there, training was only 8 weeks, and you were sending kids to die. Im not saying it was right, Im saying how it was
@@maladjustedmoon5200
Do you know the Definition of Vanity ? Do you have inadequacies about yourself and need to cause others what you went through ? If you are not Soldier material you are not soldier material simple as.
@@mfgrobin9657 not sure what you are on about, just posted my opinion. Didn’t matter if they were ready or not, they still got sent to hell. they knew immediately which boys would not come home. i have a little knowledge on the subject so i shared. alot of those kids survived due to their basic training. what exactly did i say to get you all worked up?
@@mfgrobin9657 they didn’t back then, have a great day, this is going nowhere
I went to Parris Island in August of 1986 and drill instructors never run out of material. Maintaining a sense of humor in combat helps keep you sane. Joker was in a good '80s movie called Vision Quest.
99 for me and you’re absolutely right. It’s like they have a never ending source of shit talking
Joker got promoted all the way up to Secretary of Defense (Sicario 2).
Did the Marines at that time get any recruits from the draft? I know most who were drafted went into the Army, just wondering if any were drafted when you were there?
Matthew Modine who played Joker also played the doctor in Stranger Things for several seasons.
He doesn't hate them. It's his job to train these men all he can to survive war in 8 weeks.
Dont want the people overseas to call him names and him go on a killing spree... get it out of the way in training
And failed at his job by not recognizing Lawrence as a danger to himself and others.
Hindsight being 20/20, maybe a change in training or policy is necessary after unsuccessful military endeavors into Korea, Cuba, Vietnam, and Afghanistan.
@@nathan8418 much harder to invade than it is to defend?
@@ianmac4595 When an invasion involves crossing an ocean first, of course. Probably should stop falling for that trap.
The legendary R. Lee Ermey! Could be both terrifying and hilarious, ofter at the same time. I will always remember him fondly as the coach from Saving Silverman.
"I bet you can suck a golf ball through a garden hose!" I use that line TO THIS DAY! 😂🤣
Do you posses the common courtesy to reach around? 😆😆
@JerryMetal I'm Not into that Sort of thing, but I would if I were.
@@StinkFingerr you, sir, are a gentleman
@@StinkFingerrHow nice of you to say so, "StinkFinger."
Why would you say something like that to someone?
"He has said a combination of sentences" is literally one of the funniest commentaries on this I've ever heard! 💀😂
First reactor to make the connection that Kubrick is indeed, in the lexicon of 2 live crew. Goat.
Right. That's where 2Live Crew got those lyrics for the song.
"Did your parents have any children that lived?"
"Sir, yes, sir."
"I bet they regret that. You're so ugly you could be a modern art masterpiece!"
Fun Fact: The movie was #2 on Gene Siskel's list of the Best Films of 1987.
Hot Take Fact: The bathroom mop scene between Joker (Matthew Modine) and Cowboy (Arliss Howard) took 62 takes to complete. Director Stanley Kubrick's trademark perfectionist multiple takes.
Insane Commitment Fact: According to an interview with Vincent D'Onofrio, the production schedule for the film was so drawn-out that lead actor Matthew Modine got married, conceived a child with his wife, the child was born, and then turned 1 year old ...all during the course of filming.
Method Director Fact: To make Gunnery Sgt. Hartmann's performance and the recruits' reactions as convincingly as possible, Matthew Modine, Vincent D'Onofrio, and the other actors playing recruits never met R. Lee Ermey prior to filming. Stanley Kubrick also saw to it that Ermey didn't fraternize with the actors between takes.
What Script Fact: Director Stanley Kubrick had nothing but praise for R. Lee Ermey's skills as a performer. Kubrick originally was going to write dialogue for Ermey's character himself, but he became so impressed with what Ermey improvised, he decided it was not necessary. He simply let him ad-lib, an act practically unheard of for a Stanley Kubrick film.
Truth is, USMC boot camp during this era was actually worse than what's depicted here. I worked with a few guys who were in during Vietnam. This shit is designed to dehumanize you and prepare you for combat, which is much worse.
I heard that too plus in case they were ever captured, which I know they were unfortunately.
@dianafrost936 there is another level of POW training for special forces, etc. that goes even further that what they get in basic. Like for those who go on covert missions behind enemy lines. They have to stay in a simulated POW camp and get exposed to torture techniques.
Which is why so many Vietnam Vets have/had serious issues. The VA needs to do more work in helping them.
@derps0n839 It's called SERE training. Survival Evasion Resistance and Escape. They basically drop you in the middle of the wilderness with what you would eject from a plane with, a small survival kit. They tell you that friendly lines are 150 miles to the east of this position. You have a 12 hour headsteart before we begin hunting you. Goodluck. You will not make it to friendly lines, you will be allowed to "evade" for a few days, just long enough to begin starving. Then you will be forcefully captured and interrogated. Not much is known about the "escape" portion because much of SERE training remains classified.
My Senior year of H.S. and I was ready to signup with the Marines. I had a part time job at Montgomery Wards in the mall and one of my co workers was 3 years in the marines and I kept asking questions how it was like. He told me to watch Full Metal Jacket before I make my final decision to become a marine. It totally changed my mind. I went to art school instead and became a graphic designer. Best decision I made.
Indeed it was. You made the right choice.
Best thing I ever did was join the Corps. It's hard but it changes you forever. I was a shy quiet band boy in High School. I came out of recruit training far more confident and able to take care of myself. To each their own.
I was in Afghanistan and was sent to pick up a VIP from the flight line one morning. I was waiting in the vehicle and the passenger door opened and none other than R Lee Ermy jumped in the passenger seat. He said “We’re here to shoot an episode of Mail Call, a show for the History Channel” With a shocked expression I said “Yeah…I know who you are”. I had a magazine about the top war movies and there was a full page photo of him holding the jelly donut. He signed it for me and took a photo with me. Other than going home…that was my favorite part of that deployment.
Awesome!
Dude that’s sick, and God bless you and THANK YOU for serving man, mean it
He was the only reason I watched the history Channel, his show was hands down the best on there.
My father watched this movie once and wouldn't watch it again. Eventually he told me why....when he was in the Army in 1953 he was in with a guy who was on his third attempt to make it through basic training. My dad said the guy was slow...and one night he heard the drill instructor beating the guy with his stick and the guy crying.
I think that the fact that my dad didn't do anything is what bothered him the most...but it was the 1950s and I'm not sure what he could have done other than un alive the drill instructor.
"I'm not sure what he could have done other than un alive the drill instructor."
When I was in I heard stories about a sergeant who used to be too gung-ho. He stopped after he woke up with a concussion in the forest. Someone walking behind him had grabbed his head and smashed it into a tree. But no-one in the platoon with him had seen a thing...
Have y’all watched A Soldier’s Story? Great movie.
My father was drafted into the Army in 1971. He told me that he DI's were rough, mean, and petty.......... except on days when the recruits were issued live rounds for target practice. On those days, the DI's were unusually nice lol
Kill*
Refusing the draft was a felony and Pyle would’ve went to prison for it. It’s also assumed Pyle was one of McNamara's Morons which was a decision by the Secretary of State to draft less than mentally capable people like Bubba and Forrest.
So glad us disabled people can't join the military lol
Its still practiced today
You could just stop and drop. Stop listening and drop to the ground. Out in 6 mo. Um, no morons never make it through boot camp. Stupid movie
Most of those who were drafted went into the Army and less than 42,700 went into the Marine Corps. More than likely, Pyle signed up.
@jacobkubacki2719 there hasn't been a draft since the 70's
R. Lee Ermey used to host this awesome show called Mail Call, and he'd answer questions about the military, armaments, tanks, whatever.
I completely forgot about that show. I'm about to go binge that right now.
Commercial bumpers:
Me, starting to get up to get a snack.
Sgt. Ermey: *NOBODY DISMISSED YOU YET!!!*
Me, sitting back down: Yes sir.
Kubrick’s choice to have them sing the ‘Mickey Mouse Club’ song is brilliant. It reminds the viewer of the absurdity of the Vietnam war. Of most wars. These Marines were children watching the Mickey Mouse Club on TV just a few years ago. Now, their country has them killing, and dying, on the other side of the world. For what?
"For what?" is an excellent question and the answer is..........NOTHING! They were shipped off to fight a war they didn't understand, with no realistic goal, against an enemy that they couldn't see, with one arm tied behind their backs because of all the restrictions, for a people who didn't care about them, and then came home to a country that treated them like crap. All because we were in the "Red Scare." Very sad. And just as sad is that a person who now claims to love our country and is patriotic, used a pathetic excuse like non-existent "bone spurs" in order to avoid serving.
Let me amend my original answer to your "For what?" question. They didn't die for nothing, they died for each other. Because over there, all they had were each other!
@@TeddyKGB12 Agreed, about that. Soldiers can only do their duty. The mistakes lay completely with the political decision makers, safe at home.
@@TeddyKGB12 TDS
@@CRUSH71 truth hurts, doesn't it? Now go back inside your trailer and crawl in bed with your sister, trumptard.
This is the movie that made me love Vincent D’Onofrio.
I really took note of his talent in MIB and The Cell. Then I saw FMJ 🤩
Edgar suit
@@JRSiebz The unforgettable Edgar suit!
Goren in Law & Order Criminal Intent. He was smart like Sherlock Holmes. ❤
As someone mentioned earlier, R Lee Ermey was brought on as a consultant by Stanley Kubrick, but Kubrick wound up liking him so much he allowed Ermey (a real-life drill instructor at MCRD San Diego) to write and improvise 95% of his dialogue. This was AFTER Ermey filled up multiple two-hour VHS tapes with auditions while being pelted with tennis balls and oranges. He also never repeated insults during those audition tapes. As for the original Sgt. Hartman (Tim Colceri), he was given the role of a helicopter door gunner as a consolation from Kubrick for his months of preparation.
He was the Door Gunner who was mowing down random people and laughing.
One thing you need to understand about Boot Camp, NOTHING the Drill Instructors do will be anywhere close to as bad as a firefight in combat. The yelling, screaming, and being as hard as they are is all done with the purpose of increasing their chances of living through combat. They artificially induce panic/stress and make you work through it.
Animal Mother is basically what Gomer Pyle would have become had he not had his little...episode.
"Bro, that was mercy." That is exactly why I enjoy your reactions so much. Keep up the exceptional work. We love you.
I went through USMC bootcamp in 1978. And this is how it was for us. They trained killers not soldiers in the USMC. I saw many recruits get the shit knocked out of them. We were Marines and that's all we were. Semper Fi 🇺🇸
3016 here...Parris Island
The problem is that it’s immoral to be a killer according to most of the religions and moral philosophies I’ve heard about, and I know people like to say it’s ok cause it’s war, but we’re not just defending the homeland or something. Invading poor countries like Vietnam and killing huge numbers of people is evil.
people tend to justify insults that they do not resist or avenge. that's why you see all these comments from people like this, where they still are proud of being puppeteered, and even think of themselves as tough for fighting for the least underdog military on earth. The same people complain about the govt, but love it if you call it another name, like 'marines". A much stronger attitude would be to admit being a tool, but say "hey, i learned some skills, i survived, and I moved on with my life". @@maladjustedmoon5200
PI. platoon 2081 Sept 1978 Semper Fi
...mus' not be of this Earth. @@maladjustedmoon5200
R Lee Ermy is an absolute legend amongst the marine corps after boot camp I met him he was signing autographs and taking pictures with new marines he is a real stand up guy
I met Gunny years ago. He couldn't have been more humble and kind to my wife and I.
Touch his lips. He'll probably say something about that.
(I know he already passed. The joke remains. If you wanna see a man in FULL RAGE, gently touch his lips.)
“Red Dawn” would probably count as a fictional war film.
If I remember correctly, Mr. Lee Ermey said that during Vietnam, when the draft order came and drill sergeants had to train so many more marines with less time than they were used to, a lot of them became overly aggressive and cruel to compensate for it. He said a good drill sergeant would've recognized the signs in Pyle and had him removed. I could be totally misattributing that quote, though.
Correct
I've heard interviews where he said similar things; he said he didn't quite know how to respond to Marines who came up to him and said they enlisted because they were inspired by him in FMJ, because he deliberately played Hartmann as a *failure* of a DI.
Fun fact the door gunner was originally supposed to play gunny hartman but was replaced by R Lee ermey
Im watching it now. Your pup in the background chewing that bone has me floored. Enjoy all you give to us watchers.
Blank, nice job getting this one out. I saw it took lots of work but you pulled it off 🏆
How many “what he say?!” Are we going to hear in the first 10 mins lol
Kubrick's camerawork is masterful in all his films but it's noticeably great in "Full Metal Jacket".
I memorized this movie before I went to the Marine Corps in 96. It helped so much
"Can't be slapping people in there"
Cuts to Pyle suclimg his thumb with his pants around his ankles
"😶😐😶😐"
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The kid playing "Pyle" is Vincent D'Onofrio, Kingpin from the Daredevil series. He also played Thor in Adventures in Babysitting.
The way this movie made me feel for his character might be the first time I ever connected with a character in a movie.
Thank you for getting the video through Blank. Much appreciated.❤👍
“…Can I quote L.B.J?”
“Labron James?”.🤣🤣🤣🤣
The military is definitely a different place then it was back then, but the Drill Instructor isn’t being an asshole just to be an asshole. It’s his job to send those boys to war. Where they’ll be surrounded by gunfire, explosions, they’ll see their friends die, and while all that’s going on they have to be able to mentally function. The point of the DI is to stress them out and make their lives miserable so they can learn to function while they’re stressed and miserable.
You're totally right about it not being "war-like". If anything the movie is an "anti-war" movie. And you HAVE seen people you recognize in this movie JL! R. Lee Ermey, who plays Gunnery Sergeant Hartmann is the voice of the Army Men in Toy Story! And Pvt. Pyle (Vincent D'Onofrio) is one of the more iconic actors to play Kingpin in the Marvel universe. He was also the villain bug that takes the dude's skin in the first Men in Black. Animal Mother (Adam Baldwin) starred in Firefly and also has voiced Superman in DC animated features once or twice. He's also Dutch in Halo ODST and Kal'Reegar in Mass Effect.
The thought that Kal and Jayne were the same man is just so funny to me.
The very first part of this movie came back to me when I spoke with my one surviving uncle who retired from the Marines with a psychological disability in Vietnam. He was disallowed benefits, as many Black soldiers were. He was given 50% when he retired. He fought for his benefits enough that he was finally given 75% of benefits a few years ago. And he was a Lieutenant.
"I thought he was about to be on some 😈 time..."
For D'Onofrio going full demon time, you need to see The Cell, with JLo and Vince Vaughn.
J would like The Cell.
@@Deathbird_Mitch I dunno if he would 'like' it 😅 but he'll have fun watching it for sure. And JLo looks pretty great throughout.
This is Krubick’s response to his previous works…
Paths of Glory, Dr. Strangelove and even Spartacus…. He wanted to portray modern war as hell and we had to live it….
There's no actors in this movie after the boot camp scene you would recognize...except the colonel who accosted Modines uniform. He was the General talking to Han Solo at the beginning of Empire Strikes Back.
Animal Mother - Adam Baldwin or Jayne from Firefly.
@poisonedpawn7813 oh ok, didn't have that one!!
That's probably because they were both made here in England.
@@poisonedpawn7813
He's seen Predator 2 and Independence Day, right? Not a major player in either one, but recognizable.
It would’ve been funny to see the Colonel take a giant shit on Joker.
And you've seen Pvt Pile in other movies lol If you've seen Men in Black, you've seen him. He was the skin suite farmer that the giant Roach was wearing around lol he's been in other things too. He was in The Cell with JLo and Jurrasic World with Chris Pratt and many other movies. He's been around. Great actor!
Thanks for doing this, guys! I know it was a pain in the ass.
Matthew Modine(Married To The Mob) is the one with the glasses and Dorian Harewood(played Jesse Owens in The Jesse Owens Story in 1984) is the black actor. The one who shot himself, Vincent D'onofrio was in Law and Order Criminal Intent tv show
I love how protective you got over Leonard even before the blanket party.
R Lee's videos on gun safety were part of my conceal carry class.
Oh that would have been a trip 😂
Vincent Denofrio is AMAZING as Pyle. He is so haunting while in the bathroom.
And he’s been a legend ever since.
This is how Marines are made.
And this is how serial killers are created.
@@Renegade2786 What an ignorant thing to say
@@billherman7294 It's an ignorant thing to say that it's an ignorant thing to say.
@@Cre80s You obviously haven't earned the EGA so yes, you're both ignorant
I saw this movie about two weeks before shipping off to basic training. I was scared shitless, but then I remembered that I had joined the Air Force! 🤣
@JL One of the 10 best directors of all time, was a treat to see you enjoy it and see just how much damage we do our men and women who serve in the military. PTSD is very real
20:10 Ayy you want a jelly donut? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
watching a non-military person watch this is amazing, the perspective is totally different on so many things including the humor.
I'm glad you enjoyed this movie, but I can see that it got to you.
You are a man with a big heart J, and that's why we love you.
Take care.
And please, I ecourage you to react to more films by Stanley Kubrick. They are all fantastic, and all unique experiences in their own way.
Coming from a military fam. Heard all the stories about BT. Basic training tears U down & then builds U back up, prepares U for combat.
This was such a great reaction. Thank you J and Blank for all of your hard work getting this posted. There are so many things I could say but I won't, I would be commenting until tomorrow morning. This brought back so many memories, not of the Vietnam War. I went through Air Force Basic Training in January 1980. Our T.I.'s weren't as bad as their D.I. was, but it wasn't all fun either. I will say one thing, the foot locker scene, that actually happened but it was a security drawer not a foot locker. Oh, no donuts were involved.
Dude, you are gonna have a freaking blast just from the opening scene in the barracks. 😂😂😂😂
The same actor plays a drill instructor in Boys in Company C. He's more tough love in that one than just plain cruel.
Very underrated movie too
Gotta love Gunny. He was a real Drill Instructor. Mine looked like a skinny Wesley Snipes.
Stanley Kubrick was the master of the unexpected. A true one of a kind. I hope you guys do more of his films.
Space Odyssey would be great!
I went to Parris Island in 1979 and this is exactly how boot camp was. You obviously haven’t served.
There's a question that every Marine asks, when watching this film.
"How the fuck did Pyle get live rounds into the Barracks?".
Check the reload, when Gunny was congratulating Pyle.
He ejected a loaded magazine.
I can only speak from post-Vietnam US Navy.
1. There are always more than one CC in boot camp (at least in the Navy) where partially recruits can't be abused. Verbal abuse is one thing but physical was a NO GO.
2. Vincent D'Onofrio played the Bug in MIB and had to put on 50lbs for this role
3. Hardman was out of control. Others outside his recruits would have noticed and he would have been held accountable.
4. "I don't know, but I've been told. Eskimo pussy is mighty cold." was used in my Navy recruit company in 1981.
5. In the US Navy real live ammo was always accounted for, and Pyle wouldn't have had it on his person in the head.
6. The lights in the head are always lit. (lighting I suspect).
7. "Blanket parties" were a real deal. We didn't have one because we didn't have a Gomer Pyle.
8. The hooker in Saigon is just distracting them so the motorcycle guys can steal the camera. I saw that happen in the Philippines.
9. "I wouldn't shit you, you're my favorite turd" I've used that before.
10. Even by Hollywood standards, Kubrick went overboard with excessive bloodletting.
"He only has 45 cards in the deck."🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
it's not a documentary. movies are like dreams. this one is about ideology
@@emilianosintarias7337Pretty much everything he said is accurate nowadays, just not to the Vietnam-era. Hartman is pretty much exactly how the Drill Instructors in the Corps were back then according to every account I've read or interview I've seen. Nothing he did in the movie would have been considered over the line. Things have just changed a lot since then.
@@eigerw Thats something a lot don't understand when watching this movie,
This was not "basic" basic training, these men were being sent off straight to the killing fields after basic. Certain "pleasantries" needed to be skipped.
@@ups5864For sure, the vast majority of them didn't even want to be there and acted accordingly.
that's not the point - the movie is not about the military. It is about coping mechanisms people need in order to commit crimes and even die, when the state tells them too. Invading and burning down SE Asia was a crime, and the war took place more between factions in a few buildings in DC than in the pacific. The dirty jokes, the hazing, the cynicism, building yourself into a warrior to fight a non threat. That's mental gear. The lie that an american farmer and a vietnamese farmer are enemies that works for some. But for others, sarcastic disavowal of his own role is the way to deal with it. All this mental gear is what helps a man do insane things for insane reasons. People who justify the drill sergeant's behavior and the US marines, and people who are offended by them are both missing the point. The DS is doing what needs to be done, for a mission that absolutely does not need to be done. @@eigerw
That drill sargeant's only job is to make sure these guys are ready for war. He saved lives by making them tough. If you can't handle getting yelled at, or choked a little bit, or even slapped, you can't handle anything about war.
Well that’s the whole point, that man should have never been drafted because he was mentally deficient. Everything about Vietnam was brutal especially that they drafted low IQ people to send to war.
I've watched this movie once...only once. I was probably way too young when I watched it that one time. It was too much for me. I will only be watching it again via your reaction, J. I remember enough to know the trauma that occurred in this movie. My goodness. The cast is stellar though.
This was a nice surprise after work. Had no idea this was on the agenda and I'm so here for it
I really wish I could afford to do Patreon bruh, I could watch you all day 😂😂😂 private Pyle had mental disabilities. They don’t say it in the movie but they said it in the book. Ronald Lee Emery (drill instructor) was a real drill instructor in the marine corps drill instructor. Idk if they hit you back in the day, but when I was in the marine corps, they couldn’t do that. I felt bad for Pyle but you can’t front homie, this dude was funny af. There’s a war movie that only a couple of ppl have done and it gives you an idea of why I am the way I am. If you ever get a chance, watch born on the 4th of July with Tom Cruise. It’s based on a true story of Ron Kovic. Yo, you a gem my brother, love your reactions more than anybody else’s.
Notice that animal mother was the only one who cared enough about 8 ball not to leave him
It wasn't about "care". It was about revenge.
He didn't care about losses or suffering. He just wanted victory.
@highapache7966 If he regarded any of them as "bros" he would have obeyed Cowboy's orders. That's pretty much the chink in the armor of the notion that Animal Mother "cared" about anything but Animal Mother.
This and Apocalypse Now are my favorite war movies. They feel more authentic in the disorganized crazy chaos that is war, and how good and bad all just becomes shades of gray.
I always love your dogs when you do these reviews, they watch out for you and care about you!
This movie is awesome. Then they leave basic training and you could turn it off. Oh.... actually, wait until the "Me so horny" line. 😂 Then you're good.
Part 1 of the film - 10 of 10
Part 2 of the film - 7 of 10
Total score - 8.5 of 10
Score the score. (How'd you like the music?)
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interesting and weird but nothing special like other Kubrick stuff.
I loved the part at the end in the building with the sniper.
I'd say 7.5 of 10 (IMO of course)
R Lee Ermey was able to infiltrate casting by strategically placing himself in other actors’ audition tapes as the actor’s drill instructor😂
The Patreon reaction is even better! I really love how much J has come to appreciate the technical aspects of filmmaking with each film he reacts to. Stanley Kubrick was a cinematic artist of the highest order, and while FMJ may not be his BEST film, it's definitely one of his most iconic and well-made.
Also, Joker's "war face" emerges when he k*lls the sniper, and it's one of my favorite acting moments ever 🤌🏼
Joker killed the sniper????
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@@chetcarman3530he does the mercy killing. She had been shot but not killed by another Marine. Animal wanted to leave her to suffer then die.
It's the real climax of the film since throughout the whole movie Joker managed to keep his own internal identity, hence the joking, and while everyone else kills out of anger and hate he kills out of mercy so it effects him different.
@@jessecortez9449 ah, okay. One of my 3 or 5 all time greatest movies playlist, but I always just thought of the initial shooting of the sniper as the actual killing, as she was clearly going to die. But yes, technically, I suppose Joker killed her. I contradicted myself, as I also always thought of Joker ironically saying he wanted a confirmed kill (which he clearly didn't) and his kill turning out to be an unarmed, disabled 12 year old girl as one of SK's key plot points in the film.
I just finished a 12hour shift and saw this notification pop up, all i want now is a cold Shiner and Jay's hilarious commentary, i wonder jow many shut ups well get in the first half.
Don't blame the gunny for being fair. Blame Secretary McNamara.
Watch "The Pacific" 10-part series. Then you'll understand why Marine bootcamp is this way. The insults. The mental abuse. The physical abuse. You'll see men fighting 24 hours a day in 110 degree heat, in mud surrounded by rotting bodies that used to be their friends. Stabbing, shooting, strangling the enemy...for 36 days straight! With not so much as a warm meal and a change of clothes. Book camp is designed to prepare these men for those kinds of conditions. It will ultimately help them survive combat by making them as tough as they come, let alone be an unbeatable fighting force.
"he playing with 45 cards out of a 52 deck" bruh that was outta pocket 😂😂
Animal breaking orders and rushing up is the reson they pinpointed where the sniper was. One of the shot men managed to point at the building where she was hiding before she killed him.
You have to remember, Drill Instructors built warriors. Their jobs weren't to hold our hands or to sing us to sleep. There were more than a few recruits that believed they could go toe to toe with a DI... they were wrong on more than one level.
Facts. Had a private challenge a drill sgt to a pushup contest. Private did 122. Drill sgt did 123 and then made the pvt knock out 10 more.
It was the worst/ best time ever with some of the best/ worse people ever. 😂
It might not be right, but it's necessary. His job is to get those men ready for war, nothing more and nothing less.
peak ideology is what you're talkin
I'm no drill instructor, but if your teaching methods result in murder-suicide, I believe said methods may be neither right nor necessary.
Driving them stark raving mad ain't the way to get them ready, though, and real drill instructors know how to break people down and build them back up again.
@venisontron People drop out of Boot Camp all the time for emotional reasons. They are pressured for a Reason.
Nah, man. This shit was definitely not necessary. Using your brain and showing an ounce of humanity is what was necessary, instead of blindly and idiotically driving a mentally unstable person to murder and suicide. Ronald Lee Ermey knew this and indicated more than once that Hartman wasn't a good drill instructor.
My main reason of watching was to see if you'd recognize the part that 2 Live Crew sampled. You did not disappoint!
Was anticipating his reaction to that as well. Glad he caught it 🙂
Pyle had to leave the locker unlocked to eat the donut after lights out, because he couldn't see the numbers in the dark. This is why the Sargent hates unlocked lockers, because he knows people slip in to them at night. Stanley Kubrick thinks of every detail.
Such an iconic first half of the movie. The second half never lives up to it.
Thank you. I have been saying that since this movie was released.
Totally untrue. Both acts are equally vital, when one understands the full story arch Kubrick is telling. You have to understand, it's not just a coincidence that Animal Mother simply "resembles" Gomer Pyle. He "is him". He is like a ghost of him, it's what Gomer was being trained to become. The entire film is about taking humans and making them into killers, even our "protagonist", Joker. Just because the first half is well done and shocking, it doesn't make the 2nd half anywhere near less important. To not care about it is to miss the point about Gomer’s full story.
@@Cre80s I can agree with that. To be fair, I didn't say I didn't care about the second half. I just said that I prefer the first half more.
@@Cre80s The second half suffers greatly for having no real presence among the actors. Certainly nobody that comes close to Pyle and Hartman. Joker is okay and Modine is a decent actor but he has zero gravitas to carry it.
Especially coming out a year after Platoon that was by far more accurate depiction of Vietnam and fantastic performances.
To each their own though. Just giving my two cents.
@@Khay-77 It's not a mistake, it's a feature. The 1st half, they're still human. The 2nd half, they're dehumanized. They are not portraying characters that are "present". They're killing machines. And nextly, again, totally false. If you think the scene with Bruce Boa isn't "present", the sniper scene, the prostitues... man, I think the shock of Gomer’s act just thrusts viewers into a numb state and they become blind to what follows. to say the 2nd act is "suffering" tho... just plain ol' false. The first act ends on an emotionally overwhelming note. But, so does the 2nd.
He is preparing them for war, you dont train them like ballerinas.
yep and nowadays its the other way around sadly
@@specialopssoldier1Hard damn facts!!!
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Let's put some historical context to this movie. All of the recruits are going through basic training and advanced training in 1967.
Most of these young men would have grown up with lots of men in their families with not only military experience, but combat veterans. Their father's, uncle's, older cousins, and brothers. Would have served in either WW2 or Korea.
Now some of these recruits would have been volunteers, but lots would also have been drafted. If you were drafted into the military. You could not quit, if you failed a part of training. You would be recycled. Which means you would be held at whatever training station you failed, until you passed, or were passed.
Now the character Pvt. Pyle is a representation of a program enacted by Secretary of Defence Robert McNamara. Which would allow men of lower IQ or Special Mental health needs into the military. Because the U.S. military needed bodies to serve in Vietnam.( 1968, would be the height of involvement for the U.S. )This program is the reason why the modern U.S. military has a minimum IQ for recruits.
A lot of people talk about R. Lee Ermey in this film, but a lot of people also don't know he was a cop as well. He was with Detroit PD for a bit, which got him his role in Se7en.
Bro, you have easily become one of my favorite reactors on TH-cam, and I love your dogs! Keep up the good work!
Great reaction…. Your attentiveness, observations and comments are always outstanding.
Thank you!
As soon as I saw you had watched this movie I was like "Alright, let's see how this went". Full of interesting dialogue, it's not what anyone expects overall, I think it's more of an experience than just a war movie. Thanks so much for reacting to this. On a side note, cool shirt, I had to google what it was all about and wow, I wasn't expecting such a throwback in time!
When Private Pyle killed himself he was reincarnated again in Animal Mother- the ultimate killing machine.