GREEN BERET Reacts to Full Metal Jacket | Beers and Breakdowns
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I need to know your opinion on warning shots. Will you get njp for it is it a war crime. Is it just shoot to kill. Sht like that.
They're not called "Sock Parties". They're "Blanket parties". They are covered up and held down with blankets and beaten with the socks filled with soap bars. We had them in the 80's as well. I went through Boot Camp in 1985. I was a field radio operator in an infantry battalion when this came out. We had the same issues with the bounding and other tactics. We also took issue with the racist verbiage. We also knew this war took place shortly after Civil Rights passed and the Democratic Party's Jim Crow started it's slow "death".
You are right about leaving our people in combat too long. Look at 1st Bn, 9th Marines time in sustained combat and their heavy casualties.
@@SirKnight1096 bro sock party, blanket party who cares...
Can’t wait to see you’re reaction to interceptor, it just came out on Netflix surprised it’s not in the comedy category 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It used to be called a Blanket Party and it wasn't always used for disciplinary purposes. In basic we had 2 guys being bullies, they did this repeatedly to other guys & tried it on me. I was waiting for them & hit one with my e-tool. They stopped doing that after I fought back.
My dad was a Marine in the late 50's. He took my friend and I to see it. We were 15 years old and I was scared as hell watching the beginning of it. I looked over at my father and he was laughing. He lived it and said the movie got it right.
Yup. Marine Corps recruiters would recommend we watch the movie to prepare for boot camp.
Marines definitely have a different sense of humor 🤣🤣
@@docdolittle8057 #Facts
@@BigTomInTheBasement Definitely a more colorful sense of humor! Semper FI
As a Marine I can tell you that the boot-camp portion of the movie is 100% accurate. I watched this movie right before shipping off to boot-camp in 1988.
Does anyone else periodically comeback and rewatch the first like 6min when they need a good laugh? It literally makes me LOL whenever I watch it.
Love that!
Dude I literally have that scene memorized
Watched this one more times than the movie being reviewed! Still cracks me up endlessly 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
more than 20 times
If you been on the yellow foot prints, you get it 😂
I was still in the Marines when this movie came out. Saw it in a packed theater in Jacksonville, NC with a whole bunch of other Marines. Literally every Marine gasped when the DI saw that unlocked footlocker. None of the civilians got it.
One of the best bits of dialogue in the film, that most people didn't get...
"How can you shoot women and children?!?"
"It's easy... ya just don't lead 'em so much!"
Essentially, the door gunner took their question literally. "Leading" targets means you have to shoot at a point in front of moving targets to hit them. Women and children being slower than the men, you wouldn't lead them as much.
@@Mr.Ekshin I remember me and my friends laughing in the theater at that line, , and then feeling really bad about it.
@@Mr.Ekshin Seriously doody, didn't you read the Marine NCO Handbook? "Chesty Puller was asked by a reporter what he was fighting for. He paused, and said $50 a month."
@@knoahbody69 - I don't know how that pertains to my comment in any way... but okay.
@@Mr.Ekshin Whatever swede.
Vietnam era vet here. We didn’t call them sock party it was called it a blanket party. The blanket holds you down
yes in the navy as well its a blanket party
Poor Gomer Pyle, "McNamara's Morons" was a real thing. Essentially, in order to fulfill body quotas for Vietnam, the DOD accepted special needs folks; many were illiterate, and some couldn't even tie their own shoe laces without assistance. Some genius even tried sending "MM" troops on patrol/perimeter guard. However, they found they were liabilities, or reduced combat effectiveness, because they had to watch them constantly. These poor guys had no business being anywhere near a combat zone.
I think it was jocko who had someone on his podcast who wrote a book about that. It was a pretty interesting listen learning about it.
@@neutralpxnda4846 I think you're right. Either 'Ted Talks' or a presenter for a think tank, that's where I first heard of the MMs.
Sounds like current military standards since the qualifications were lowered. Tic toc soldiers now serving in our military.
Probably McNamaras folly by Hamilton Gregory.
He pointed out that used properly, taking over basic tasks on cleaning, cafeteria and others they could free up more valuable people so home bases, rear areas, they had a use. In combat roles it was a lethal mistake for themselves and others in the squad.
My dad is dislecsic, making him illiterate at the time of Vietnam drafts.
He got arrested one night and the judge told him he had to enlist.
He got to the Army and told them he'd shoot every asian he saw. Cauz "I'm too stoopid to tell uniforms apart."
Needles to say they sent him home with a big smile on his face.
My father Ret. Major US ARMY Vietnam Vet. Sig Corp Offer, and I watched this movie many times together. He said to me it’s pretty accurate but it’s exactly the emotional punch in the gut he felt while serving overseas in a war zone. He loved this movie and especially R. Lee’s stellar performance!
Drill sergeant R. L. Ermey is legendary in this movie. The discipline on the lines delivered, the pace of the verbal barrage and the marksmanship of the slurs is on an epic level.
This movie is a must watch, simply to just educate yourself.
Marines(this movie) = drill instructor
Army = drill sergeant
Not just this movie. The worst thing you can do is call a Drill Instructor a Drill Sergeant. I made that mistake on my first week of boot camp.
Cue the shark attack
That would be Drill Instructor, not Drill Sergeant.
He was discovered for his first movie, boys in Company C, and then purple hearts, and then he made his own movie called Siege of firebase Gloria. All more realistic than FMj in my opinion.
I served as a Marine from Sep 1987 until Sep 1994. While I'm very proud and thankful of my time in the Corps, I wouldn't have joined if I had seen this movie before I left for boot camp. Not having full knowledge of what boot camp was, is what kept me from quitting. I just kept thinking, the worst day is provably behind me. But it wasn't, until it was.
I served 1989-1993. This movie was the main reason I went USMC.
I didn't. Although Daddy was in the USMC 16YRS and had enough.
Daddy is a Sr. D.I.
USMC
I joined the Marine Corps at 17, in 1981. When this movie came out, my wife and I went and saw it. I was sweating so hard, and gripping her hand so hard, I hurt her. That is how realistic the bootcamps scene is (by the way, only Marines have boot camp; everyone else has basic training). Now, multiply what you saw by 16 hrs a day for 13 weeks straight. Yes, I was cussed out, politically incorrect words (in fact we had no idea what that was) used, and yes we were hit. No one said a word. Although it was "technically" against the rules, it happened all the time. You just sucked it up, took it, and moved on. The DI's job is to get you ready for combat; which is a helluva lot hard then some DI yelling at you or hitting you. If you can't handle something as simple as boot camp, "Get out of my beloved corps. You non hacking piece of shit."
My brother was in the Marines in the early 80s. The DIs were likely Vietnam vets. He tells of a similar hardcore experience in Bootcamp
Same for me in 1984 2nd battalion PI. Vets of Vietnam war as DI's, blanket party, tune up in the head and there was absolutely no PC stuff. They wanted you to snap...break. they did everything to get you there. They wanted you to take a swing for sure. Bring you to your breaking point.
That movie's open scenes of boot camp nailed it.
Its one thing to be scared of being PT to death but another to be scared of being physically assaulted and that no one would say a thing. 😆
I'm glad it changed. No real added value in it.
Old comment I know, but Navy is bootcamp. Technically the marines call it recruit training and bootcamp is the nickname
To add a counterpoint, both of my parents joined the Army in the mid 1980s and I never got the impression from either that basic was especially difficult beyond what youd obviously expect. Neither have mentioned hazing or beatings from what I can recall. Yes I know I know Marines vs Army. But ive heard the Reagen era Army was desperate for recruits so maybe they lowered requirements enough that it was really on easy mode even by 1984?? Or maybe my parents were tougher than I thought back then lol. But IDK I wasnt alive so I cant comment beyond what ive heard.
Where and when? September 81’ first battalion here.
Man I love that scene. I cried laughing when I first saw it and damn near needed pampers. Seeing you dudes laugh hard till your faces were red only made me laugh like the first time. Thanks for the post. RIP R. Lee Ermey.
my dad said the opening scene was as close as he's ever seen to his boot camp experience in the late 60's. A piece of trivia, the actor playing the psycho door gunner was originally cast as Gunnery Sgt Hartman, but R Lee Ermy did that opening monologue knowing he was better, and Kubrick gave him the part.
R. Lee Ermey was hired by Kubrick originally to be his military advisor. R. Lee Ermey had been a Staff Sergeant and Drill Instructor in the Marine Corps and served two tours in Vietnam before being wounded and ending his military career. After "Full Metal Jacket" was released the Marine Corps made R. Lee Ermey a Gunnery Sergeant for his depiction of Gunnery Sergeant Hartman.
My understanding is Armey's original role was to advise the future door gunner how to play Hartman, but the actor couldn't do it, so Armey said here let me show you how to do it, and did the role himself one time to demonstrate, and then they decided, why not just use him to do the role.
Everybody knows this.
@@kilakr13 then why wasn't it in the first comment, genius
I went through PI in 2002 and it was still spot on. The most accurate portrayal of Basic ever. I remember being in front of the Company Commander at the end of Basic as he rattled of all of these questions like "were you ever denied a head call?" "were you ever physically or mentally abused?" etc etc. In my head I was going "yup, yup, uh huh, yes, you betcha" and when he was done all he got was a "No Sir" lol.
There’s a lot of history that is present in the movie but not specifically talked about. In an interview with R Lee Ermey he talked about the boot camp and admitted they weren’t supposed to hit the recruits, like it was in the manual you couldn’t as a DI strike a recruit but two things happened. A troop surge was initiated once the US went from an advisor role to being fully committed to fighting in Vietnam. Literally over night the class sizes doubled and they went from something like a 16 week basic to just 8 weeks. Ermey said previously if they had a recruit like Pyle they would have had the time to just drill them over and over again until they got it right or gave up, but they no longer had that option. They didn’t have time to piss about and found that sometimes a slap got faster results.
The other thing that happened was a program initiated by then Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara that came to be known as McNamaras morons. In order to boost numbers they drastically reduced the physical and mental requirements for entry into the military. Pyle represents that disastrous idea because someone like him, over weight and mentally unfit/incompetent, would never have gotten in prior to the surge. They reasoned that it would be okay to let these people in on the assumption that maybe all they needed was to be given a chance and that a bit of good old fashioned military discipline would ultimately sort them out. This policy is one of the reasons why the Vietnam war had the highest rate of fraggings that the US military ever experienced.
Ermy E Lee was a real Marine DI & the one person we all tried to talk ish like as kids! You said it perfectly with the "duality of man" for the description of this movie. Thanks for the best morning laughs in a while Boys! 🤘🏼🏴
R. Lee Ermy brother.
@@lwilson1234 I just realized I wrote it backwards! 🤣🤦🏼♂️ Thank brother!
The guy who was the door gunner was originally hired to be the DI and R Lee Ermey was hired to be the advisor. R Lee was so much better that he got the role for the DI. There could be no other for that character.
@@velvetjones1856 And the door gunner served in the Marine Corps also
I am wondering why they call him a drill sergeant. Only whimp soldiers call them sergeants.
Hey,guys...I did my BCT in 1969...Fort Knox,KY. Our junior drill sgt was exactly like Hartman. He was just back from his second tour of Vietnam (CIB) and he had some head problems. There were no "stress cards" back then. And BTW...during the Vietnam era you only did a single one year tour for each "hitch".
Guys, I'm here to tell you, every bit of what you saw in the bootcamp sequence was 100% actual Marine Corps reality. There were no "Hollywood" liberties taken, what you saw and heard was the real deal. Semper Fi Gentlemen.
Not exactly...in reality there were almost almays 2-4 DIs at any given time...they could cover much more ground or put extra pressure on one.
these guys are stupid and clueless to think they can speak with any authority about what this movie is doing
I was in the army in the early 80's and I can truly say that this basic training sequence was very in line with my experience. We had 12 weeks of basic which I hear is 8 weeks now. I literally laughed when my cousin told me that.when I hear people say they can't yell at you or put their hands on you now or the other things they can't do I have to ask are we teaching things now or are we treating the military like a regular business with human resources being the decider of things!? I hear new soldiers talk now about what they're not going to do or allow and I'm flabbergasted we'll ever be ready to defend ourselves. 80% of what I hear out their mouth would have never been allowed. military People now so shocked by this movie really stunned me.
My dad was a drill instructor during Vietnam, and though I was born years after his time in that role, I can say this is approximately accurate to his daddy voice and style, and it worked on us. He sounded scarier though, so there’s that. My mom was sweet, gentle, patient, nurturing, and couldn’t get us to behave with belt licks, but my dad would come in and give a stern look and holler “do what she told you!” and end hours of chaos without a word of back talk. My mom, god bless her, explained to me when I was like 7-8 that this was called respect, and that we loved her but respected daddy. I was like yeah, but I feel inhibited around him even though I know he loves me and I trust him, what’s up with that? And she was like, yeah, I wish you felt inhibited about back talking me too, but I’ve just figured out your daddy is better at that, and I’m the one who you want when you’re sick or scared. I’m coping with it because I’ve noticed even feminists complain about not getting as much respect as men as authority figures, and they’re way meaner and more heartless than I’m interested in being…so, I’m just glad I’ve got your daddy to help me deal with you two.
It was a heavy conversation lol. I can’t watch this movie without thinking about that moment.
I grew up in a very similar situation. Dad was a badass CAF 2RCR Master Corporal, sniper, scary dude. Me and my sister would disrespect mom but nobody fucked with dad
@@davidoftheforest CAF? I thought Canadians were mellow. WTF is a Master Corporal? Never heard of such an animal.
It seems amongst most Vets that the opening sequence of FMG with R Lee Ermy is one of the best scenes in movie history. It brings back the memories of a dramatic and life changing experience. It brings these two to tears they are laughing so hard.....
Guys you must remember this is set in 1967/8, they're draftees, none of them want to be be there, hence why Hartman doesn't just wash Pyle out as everyone would then start screwing up to get kicked out. The truly amazing thing is that this was all filmed in England.
5% of the Marine Corps in Vietnam were draftees. Most draftees were inducted into the Army unless the Marine Corps needed to fill its quota. Most likely these recruits if not fictional would have joined.
@@wetley09 Interesting but I can only think Pyle must have been a draftee?
In the credits of the film it says that it was filmed on location in Vietnam. It's a myth that Kubrick didn't like to travel and that Full Metal Jacket was filmed in England.
@@My-Name-Isnt-Important Not according to IMDB?
I talked to a Marine vet once. He said he was at the AFEES and they called out twenty names and sent them to a side room. He was sitting there waiting when the Marine recruiter came in and told them that they were all going to be drafted into the Marine Corps. He told them if they would enlist in the Marine Corps it would look better for them when they got to boot camp.
Another Marine, who was training with me at Ft. Bliss, said that there were gangs that roamed around outside Marine Corps Recruit Depot San Diego waiting for recruits going over the fence. The Marine Corps paid a bounty. He told me this in 1970.
The scenes upon entering Hue have a lot of dramatic license in them but are important parts of the whole story. When the 2 soldiers are killed, that serves not only to move Cowboy towards leader but also in the sequence of soldiers saying words over their bodies, to share their feelings on life, the war, purpose etc. The scene where the soldier shoots 2 enemies and then smiles as he sees them fall-dead-I think is a reference to the frustration many foot soldiers shared about the elusive VN enemy which not only often "melted back into the jungle" (or tunnels) but even when there was a successful firefight, US soldiers complained that they often didn't get to see their success b/c in a jungle environment, territory was often abandoned a month or two after being taken and so it wasn't a linear battlefront or clear territorial goals the same way WWII battles were often planned and executed. Being able to shoot, see the soldiers fall dead was a look of surprised, excitement, joy, success which suggested not only a rare event but also that happiness in successfully killing someone, goes back to the duality of man theme which Full Metal Jacket is about.
Hey guys, love your reactions during boot camp phase. I joined the corps 1963, this film is exactly the way it was, PLUS. My other four brothers joined after me, three of us served in country (Viet Nam) your analysis of the various aspects of the film is spot-on. R. Lee Ermey was a Marine D.I. you're correct in pointing that out. I did my boot training at P.I. South Carolina, honorable discharge 1967. Enjoyed watching with you, it took many of years before I could even talk about my experiences let alone view war movies. I'm very proud of you young war fighters, in all the branches, thanks again, Ed.
Enlisted USMC January 12, 1963. Platoon 121 1st Recruit Bn. Graduated June 12,
1963, Parris Island SC. After the schools and all other training, deployed to the RVN March 8, 1965. 9th Marine Expeditionary Brigade. WIA September '66.
After my recovery went 21 days AWOL, Lost a stripe, 'that was about it. Did not want to go back to Vietnam. Had a choice a psychological game in Korea which mint one false move could start world war 3, redeployed RVN November 10, '67-
-69 My MOS was [ 0211 counterintelligence ] It's why I couldn't be a Drill Instructor, didn't have the killer instinct, or the obsessiveness attitude mind set
it required you to have. Was a recruit receiving administrator until my Honorable
Discharge in '74. I'm 78 and I can hardly react to any of it.
@@badkarma65- Semper Fi old salt, my enlistment; April 3, 1963, plt. 223 2nd Bn. P.I. Remember arriving on the Island by bus and thinking, wow what a beautiful looking place and when the D.I. stepped on board your whole world was turned upside down?! lol. Appreciate you, Ed.
1:34 is probably my favorite little scene in the movie, because I identify with Sgt Hartman's thinking so much there. That feeling of just "Who the FUCK is talking back to me, at THIS moment?!" is so perfect.
"Everything in this movie comes with a cost." Dude. That has to be one of the most meta, awesome things I've ever heard. So true about this movie, so true about life.
what does 'meta' mean?
@@davidoftheforest It refers to something with a higher meaning, or much broader applicability than the initial point. Sean's line hit me in a philosophical way.
@@jimholmes4729 meta, is that short for metaphysical?
Your guys' reactions to this movie makes this even better.
On the Blu Ray commentary Ronald Lee Ermey talks about how this is exactly what he actually did do as a Drill Sgt. He said that around Vietnam Basic was cut down by two weeks and he felt he had to do these things to get them to the highest level of competency he could.
Essentially trying to help them survive, that's crazy
@@aaronsmith4940 yeah most people think Drill instructors like him are just being pricks in reality they care about these boys more then people realize
@@alexmason2659 Yeah, I remember watching a documentary about them. One of them said "Seeing the name of someone you trained, die in combat is one of the worst things to deal with"
@@Arch3an God Bless all these instructors doing the absolute best to turn our boys into battle hardened men
The Marine Corps doesnt have drill sgts....we feature "Drill Instructors." And Vietnam era boot camp was cut to eight weeks from the standard 13 weeks. How am I so knowledgeable? 24 years active duty will do it lol.
SEMPER FIDELIS=ALWAYS FAITHFUL
The first 5 minutes of this is one of the best of your breakdowns. What I like is that you've got this beardy, sweary Yoda vibe when you break out some of those deep philosophical thoughts. Keep it up
I remember when my mom rented this movie from Video Plus (our local 📼 rental place) and put it in the VCR… I was about 9-10yr… and then she went off to do housework and hope the movie keeps me occupied for a while…
I’ll never forget the look of horror on her face when she came back in the room after hearing R. Lee Ermey going off😂
I pretended to not know what he was saying and eventually she gave in and let me watch the rest of the movie… shows how desperate she was for a little peace and a break from me
Well you must have been a late 80s or early 90s kid. I used to freely roam about as a kid. I remember when we first got a VCR and rented Mississippi Burning, my mother would have me and my sister leave the room when a questionable scene came up. Now, as a grown up, I would never play any of those movies for youngins.
Video plus? Are you in Vancouver BC Canada? Video plus in 22nd and Rupert?
@@michaelhoule2134 no, this was in Rhode Island, USA circa 1988-89
@@williamflowers9435 ahh there was a video store with the same name on east Vancouver BC Canada. I used to work there as a kid.
Basic 1969. What you call sock party was called Blanket Party
As a former infantry marine (0331), I think it's hilarious that this review gets probably the biggest disclaimer warning right outa the box from you guys more so than any other video! Haha! Good times. SFMF!
0331 brother
The upfront disclaimer was embarrassing especially from a Green Beret. This was almost ever drill instructor when I went through Parris Island. They destroyed you in so many ways. They came at you from every direction to break you down and weed out the weak and inept.
Semper Fi fellow 31
@@jneely2007 what was embarrassing about it? they have a brand to uphold and don't want people to misconstrue anything, especially because they go on to laugh at literally everything Lee said lol. it makes sense.
Well you gotta think you tube persecutes channels arbitrarily.
The racial shit at the beginning is part of it. The door gunner killing women and children along with the prostitution etc. Is also "cause for concern." So don't blame him blame the "citizens we serve(ed)."All that said, I agree with you.
I had an uncle who had three tours in Vietnam, 1 as forward observer and two as a ranger, and was an Army Drill Sergeant during the war. He had some observations about the film at the time. First of all... He made jokes that training jarheads was more work because they start out so damn stupid... That aside... He talked about it generally being a hard job to get them as ready as you could in few weeks. He had draftees that would try and escape and intentionally injure themselves and God knows what else. He was a hard man, funny and kind, but he had a hard life. He talked about why he went back, aside from joking that it was just to get away from his ex-wife, was because he still had friends there and it was better that he be there than they be there without him. He didn't care much for the actual war scenes, he commented that you would not have gone into those areas without leveling them with artillery first, also he said they talked too damn much...
I totally relate.
My father was SF and did tours in Vietnam. I am convinced that he fully intended to die there but he wasn't going to make it easy on them.
He was that guy who you would want with you in a dangerous situation but who made everyone uneasy otherwise. Animal Mother inspired understanding for the the person I grew up with. I know now that in a way he truly didn't return from that meat grinder.
I went through usmc bootcamp in 2003... It was one of the most chaotic and funniest time of my life(other than combat in Iraq and trying to survive as a civilian). These drill instructors could do stand up comedy easily as they slay you.
You have to keep the attention of a private. Humor helps. Gotta know when to light em' up, when to calm em' down, when to call the hospital corpsman, and when to call the Chaplain.
The hardest part was trying not to laugh. My cadre (Army not USMC) was the same way, in any other circumstance, we'd all be rolling laughing at some of the shit these guys were saying. But, you know, we were standing there at attention, or most likely in the front leaning rest with straight faces. The humor in the military is on another level man. I too spent time in Iraq, saw it through the periscope of an Abrams tank, and I NEVER met a Marine I didn't like, y'all were cool. Cheers.
It's interesting to see your reactions to this depiction of life in the military. I grew up an Army brat of a father that served in Vietnam. Army life was all I really knew. When this movie came out, my dad was shook and he said it was very much like that where he served. It was a different time but it was their reality. It makes me feel better that you two were shook by these scenes, and not numb to the message or the visuals. When I was able to serve, I saw the old mix with the new. Remnants of traditions that no longer served a purpose because we as a whole had become smarter, more empathic, whatever. Kinder and gentler they called it, but ultimately I believe a lot of bad was left behind and a lot of good took its place. Kudos to your perspective despite all the hell you know.
4:20, I asked my then-girlfriend to send my "comedy" DVDs once I was in country...She knew to include this instant classic in my "comedies"... And yeah, you probably know already, but R. Lee Ermey was a former SSG (E-6) who was an on-set worker when they started filming. He said they weren't even close to portraying a USMC Drill Instructor, so the director asked him to give an example to the actor. He ended being hired for the part...the actor was fired...and Ermey did it so well that the Marine Corps meritoriously promoted him to Gunnery Sergeant (E-7) after the movie came out.
10:25 "Blanket Party"*
I love reading comments like this! Thank you very much!
Fun fact - the helo door gunner was the first Hartman.
Lee Emery was the best ever! He was a USMC drill instructor. Perfect for the role. My dad was drafted in 67’ and he would always say this movie intro was 100% accurate at least during his time at PI. He also said, you have to remember, this wasn’t the era of full voluntary like it’s been for the last 45 years. They didn’t want to be there, so I’m guessing the training tactics were such to get them in the mind of war. I’m just speculating of course.
My dad was a marine. He was a door gunner in Vietnam. We've watched this movie together so many time. Vietnam was a totally different era and the veterans could have been treated better. Sadly my father committed suicide 2 months ago. I remember hearing him scream and waking up from nightmares as I was growing up. R.I.P. Dad. Things just aren't the same without him here.
My Father in law, who was one of my best friends, served with the Marines in Vietnam in 1965. He committed suicide 20 years ago. He battled the war his whole adult life. I'm sorry to hear about your Dad.
Trying to blend in when in Basic training, is spot on. When I was in basic in the Navy in 1984 and we lined up to do a particular task, I was second or third in line. I wanted the Instructor to see that I was motivated and that I could see someone else do it correctly so I could then do it correctly and stay out of the Instructors way.
R Lee Ermey was absolutely incredible as the DI...brought back memories of being in basic...some of the things they come up with you can't help yourself but laugh when you're standing on the line...
This came out when I was just 1 year old as well, I remember this movie. Just about all my uncles were all marines, and my grandfather. We always use to watch this movie. I know some is sensationalized for the movie but this along with saving private Ryan was like my favorite as far as war films. Seal team being my favorite show. I think have so many fam members who were military is maybe why I was always interested in learning about the Military in general but especially between Spec Ops and Marines.
June 1972 Fort Ord Cali.......it was called a blanket party ! A blanket went over said fuck-up and yes , it was brutal !
I know I'm late to the party here, but my uncle was in Vietnam as a chopper gunner in the marines. I never met him, as he passed before I was born. My aunt said that he only told her that they did horrible things, were treated like dogs and didn't like to talk about it. I couldn't imaging being in that kind of warfare as a vet myself. I have his flight jacket that she gave me after talking to me about him. This is one of my favorite movies and I'm glad you guys recognize how fantastic this movie is in every emotion.
The infamous response by the door gunner to Joker's question, "How can you shoot women and children?" "Easy, you just don't lead them so much." Was from a real exchange that Michael Herr (one of the writers for FMJ) had with a real door gunner during the Vietnam War. It's in his book 'Dispatches' which is one of the best books from a real war correspondent in Vietnam.
The reason why Michael Herr was able to get such great material is because he was literally embedded with the troops for days and he earned their trust. He has a great scene where somebody confronts him just like the way Animal Mother does to Private Joker in the film, and he (a journalist) makes a deal with one of the troops, and he swears to the soldier that if they will let him go on one of their ops, only if he "Tells it exactly like it is" and not make it into some Hollywood bullshit. After all, most of the Marines were not serving by choice, so morale was a serious issue.
The book 'Dispatches' is easily one of the greatest war novels ever written, some moments are so harrowing, it feels like you are 'in the shit' with the Marines in the jungles of Vietnam. I read it after I came back from a vacation in Vietnam in 1999 during one of the worst floods and like 800 Vietnamese people died. After seeing the tunnel complex and sitting in old Hueys in Cu Chi, I went up country and got caught in a bad storm near Khe Sanh on a fucked up Route 9 where a lot of good Marines lost their lives (and thousands of NVA), and just the week before a group of kids and a grandmother got blown up by unexploded ordinance, nearly 25 years after the war.
The first thing they tell you in country is that it's called 'The American War' and not the Vietnam War, which makes sense, but it's kind of interesting because growing up with all those Vietnam War movies you never once think about it that way.
I read that the Vietnamese defeated the Chinese 300 years ago or so and defeated the Chinese in 1980. They also defeated the French and the Japanese. They know their land and they are tough mothers. They dug underneath U.S. Bases. The reason why there's so many Nguyens is he was the General that defeated the Chinese in ancient times. Plus they had Soviet Pilots fighting for them, and tons of logistical support from China and the Soviet Union during the Vietnam war.
@@knoahbody69 Can't argue with a thing you have said. I will just add that the Viet Cong kicked some Cambodian ass after the American War, too. Asymmetric warfare tactics...can be brutal.
Although, the Cambodians have since allied with China, so hopefully nothing goes hot in SE Asia ever again.
@@knoahbody69 You are in error. China, because of some border dispute actions, announced their intention to punish Vietnam and they did. They never tunneled under any U. S. bases. The Socialist Republic of Vietnam fought a border war with the People’s Republic of China in early 1979 and while both sides claimed victory, it was Vietnam that lost territory
I love that movie, and it was very educational to listen to you explain how and why thing's went down the way that they do. My brother and I never served. If we had, it would have been during the first Gulf War. I dated a girl who's dad was in the Navy, and he got to come home right before that. But, while he was home, he was stationed at the Naval Weapons Station where we lived in California,about 30 miles or so from San Francisco. My dad, he was an MP and was stationed at Checkpoint Charlie in Berlin from '63 to '65,and served on President Kennedy's honor guard when he came to Berlin and gave his famous speach. He got out and luckily didn't get sent to Vietnam. My mom's oldest brother was in the Navy and served during Vietnam on the Enterprise as a jet mechanic. I don't know what all else he did. That was the only thing I ever heard them talking about.
The reason no suppressing fire was laid down is because it was the early days in the battle to retake Hue . Commanders in the rear would not believe the Marine commander on site that there was an division of NVA troops in the city . So they sent only a Battalion of Marines .
Mark Bowden has a great book on it " Hue 1968 "
The scene where the company is pinned down by a sniper and they try to get support and can't, really shows how helpless they felt. Great commentary at the end.
Eventually, you prefer a DI screaming at you. It's when they speak softly, is when you know you're about to die. 😏
I went through Parris Island in 93 and my dad went through in 68. Dad said the movie was very accurate. He had a DI break a recruits legs because he couldn’t match and he didn’t want to lose the drill competition. It sucked in 93 but I only got shoved a few times and PT’d to death. lol
Oh, and it’s called a blanket party :)
When I went through (Army) basic and AIT at Polk back in the day, it was in the old WWII wooden barracks. It was Infantry AIT (Tigerland) so we knew 95% of us were going on to 'Nam. The barracks were two-story with a cadre room at one end on the top floor, and the latrine same end on bottom. Latrine looked somewhat like this one, with toilets squeezed together on one side and sinks on the other side. So you brush your teeth while a dozen guys drop bombs behind you. We never gave anyone a Blanket Party (as we called it) but did have one who never showered and was massively ripe. Finally, we all gathered up and carried him to the shower and scrubbed him with those big, long-handled brushes with the 2-inch-long heavy bristles. We took off a lot of the outer skin, but the dude showered every day from then on. You are all in the shit together, so cannot afford anyone to stand outside of everyone else and be a maverick.
It's interesting to see how different the reactions are between these 2 guys. The Vet is laughing, while the Civ looks like he is confused or offended. I realize as a Marine, I am desensitized to the the poop-talking. I understand why it's done. One of the missions of boot camp is to break down the individual civilian and rebuild them as a Marine. It also teaches the Marine to continue to achieve the mission despite the obstacles/personal feelings.
I noticed the difference in reaction too. I didn't realize that one guy was military and the other wasn't. It kind of explains things.
I agree. The civilian gets lost in movies like this because they have no points of reference.
I was in Bootcamp in 1975 and this is very realistic. A Drill Instructor can say anything he wants to you. This isn't the Army. Gunny Ermey was a drill instructor in the Marines, so he knows his shit. Yes, we on occasion got hit, it wasn't often but it did happen.
Fuck! I feel old. This movie and Platoon are two of my favorites. Thanks again, guys! Love it!
Roger that ! I was enlisted in my local Army National Guard Field Artillery Unit when these movies came out, and seen both in the theater.
The whole training sequence is all time iconic. The “war movie” I think is overrated. But Animal Mother is a legend
Not overrated tho? But the first part is the most "entertaining".. I think the combat is well done. I prefer this over Platoon and I prefer Hamburger hill over Platoon too.
@@ja37d-34 Platoon was better then both. Only reason I say that is because it was what my deployment was like. Humping around Hills looking for bad guys and getting ambushed along the way. All the while wondering WTF we were doing their.
@@jackson3327 Yeah, I´m sorry but that does make it better in your opinion but not objectively so..
i can see your point though. Those other two reflect my experiences more.so..
I was Airborne though, not infanrty and not marine..
But the combat in Full Metal Jacket is well done in my humble opinion.
"me love you long time" is classic Iconic. People dont even know where that line is from.
@@ja37d-34 all good movies
I respect the Green Beret to the max. I went through Marine boot camp in Jan 1968. This is for real- Full Metal Jacket's version of boot camp was 'sugar coated' compared to the real Marine boot camp in 68.
R. Lee Ermey was something else in this movie. Classic.
Lee Emery was a DI at San Diego in 1957 when i went through boot camp.
SEMPER FI
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Having attended Marine OCS in Quantico one year after the evacuation from South Vietnam this is by far and away my favorite war movie other than the few truly brutally realistic submarine warfare movies since I refused the commission to go enlist in the navy as a submarine Quartermaster in order to qualify as a merchant seaman with a reasonable chance of getting licensed as a deck officer or 3rd mate. And what you really get in Marine basic of any type either boot or OCS is a comedy club where the performers are the drill instructors. In other words, most recruits or candidates don’t really worry about the drill instructors because overwhelmingly they’re picking on someone other than yourself, so you’re just standing there quietly laughing at the poor dweeb who’s currently getting abused. But although we had comrades who were prior enlisted Vietnam combat veterans who coached us to just laugh at DIs, who to a certain extent we actually looked down on since they were enlisted men, we still had one member of the platoon who didn’t survive the experience, since he died of a heart attack after the 20 mile forced march towards the end of the 10 week course. I got the 10 weeks course because I took it after my junior year of college. People who sign up earlier get two 6 week sessions kind of like in navy ROTC and those who wait until they’d received their degrees get a 14 week session, just like at Navy OCS in Newport, which was the Union naval academy during the civil war. I ended up attending both. I resigned after 9 weeks at Marine OCS and they wanted me to accept the commission but I lost interest. At navy OCS when I was a QM2/SS with three nuclear deterrent patrols under my belt I immediately became disgusted and quit after just 3 days before even attending a single class since I impulsively decided to quit to first, go to the E-club to get drunk and secondly to get out and enter the merchant marine where you can get an officers license simply by passing a 3 day exam at the Coast Guard office of marine inspection.
This movie had tangible collection of actual events during war. Painfully interesting. Thxs for sharing
As a Canadian pacifist (and film fanatic), who can appreciate that war is at times a necessary evil, I was very consumed by watching this and gaining the perspective of guys who have been in the thick of it. Great watch! Well done, gentlemen.
I have to laugh at all of the warnings and explanations these two give on a movie from the late 80s. We loved this movie. We watched this movie when I was in the Corps. The first half of this movie was hilarious. We, my fellow Marines and I, watched it on VHS in the barracks lounge and laughed throughout the first half of the movie. The blanket party scene was great because dudes that make it rough on everyone else were handled by the DIs or the platoon. This is one of my favorite movies.
My sister was at PI in 89-90 when boot camp had been shortened down quite a bit. I seem to recall she said a recruit snapped at the range and after qualifying as expert killed the DI. She was at the range that day at a different area and she said it was crazy time after it happened. She also had a recruit in her squad bay try to commit suicide using her razor. She told my dad and me all of this so matter of factly when we went for her graduation. The stuff I saw and heard as “discipline” along with her stories I thought to myself “umm, yeah, no thanks!” But I have seen this movie and I do like it a lot! As an aside Buck, I was in my sophomore year of college when you were born and this movie came out! 😎
Also, my dad was in the AF and did a tour 69-70- he doesn’t talk much about it. When we were at PI, he did say he did jungle warfare training there before going to Vietnam.
After watching your breakdown of Full Metal Jacket I am re-upping my recommendation of Breaker Morant. I think it fits in with your discussion of the affects of combat at the end of FMG. You also have the moral dilemmas of small units fighting a guerrilla war and the inevitable breakdown that comes from seemingly contradictory orders and competing ethos. Additionally, the acting is impeccable. Enough log rolling. As a voice from the cheap seats I just want to thank you for your efforts and perspective. Keep up the good work.
You guys are awesome! YOU GET IT!!!!! Thank-you!
Guy is so humble..... and had us dieing laughing when he visited us......
Mr Ermey was, as aforementioned, a D.I during a part of the Vietnam war. He was medically discharged due to injuries sustained in Country. Kubrik hired him on as a tech adviser but R.Lee convinced him to get the role after an audition. The other guy is the Huey gunner in the movie. R Lee got free reign and most of his insults etc are ad libbed. Guy was as cool as ice 😎 The John Wayne line in the beginning is a smartass move hinting Ermey's character is over the top macho which was J Wayne's brand.
Private Pyle is Vincent D'Onofrio who had to gain 70 lbs for the role.
One more thing: Thank you for your service
There’s some truth to the joker character. I knew a force recon marine from the Vietnam Era and he said he would mess with the drill instructors. One instructor ran his ass around town and would stop him to do push ups. He would reply and say “which hand!” For the push-ups. He ended up becoming a Lt. Colonel.
Marine 75 to 80, Boot Camp was the same. They could slap you up side the head , just getting your attention. It was to see if you'll break, mental and physically. Now Flea joined the Army back then and was with the 5th Special Forces when he got out in 87. We laughed about this movie!!
In my experience the military, at least at basic training level it is like a wolf pack....if you can keep up, you will be a brother that you will all fight and kill for each other ....but...if your to out of shape, if you dont wanna be there, if your injured and cant keep up, anything like that and they will turn on you....i met dudes that seemed like good friends and we encouraged each other....then i got injured and within a week drill sergeant was telling me they'd have taken an enemy ak and shot me in the head himself if we were over seas....right in front of the whole barracks.... next thing i know other recruits called me a lier and said i wasn't injured ...threw shit at my injured back....stoped talking to me....just completely did a 360....a wolf pack is the closest thing i can think of to describe it....but if you bleed....they would turn on you to in a heart beat.... at least that was my experience at basic 🤷♂️....of course thats also not everyone....i still have maybe 3 friends from that time who check in on me and talk from time to time....but i can tell our friendship is no where near what it used to be ....fucking injuries....to anyone going off to basic, be prepared as much as you can, and please please please, AVOID INJURIES!! .... don't let your opportunity slip by you and get checked right away for injuries, don't just try and push through the pain without knowing what it is, you could make it much worse and find yourself discharged before you even know it!
That drill instructor rant is so hilarious 🤣
I remember watching this as a kid
"What is your major malfunction numb nuts"
Intense movie
you was 1 year old i was 17 in 1971 this was my boot camp on PI, they broke you down then rebuilt you as a Marine, the word of the day was Kill, this is the most authentic movie of Boot Camp back then.
I think the Pyle character was inspired by "McNamara's morons", a program where the intelligence requirements were lowered to the point where some recruits weren't even capable of tying their own shoes. They were sometimes assigned a minder, as Joker is to Pyle. They died like flies in combat.
I've heard of "blanket parties" in Canadian Army basic training during WWII. Draftees couldn't be sent overseas until they volunteered. They were referred to as "zombies" and were given a grey cap badge so everyone else would know. The DI would announce that if there were 100% volunteers, everyone would get a week's leave at home before being sent overseas, otherwise it was straight onto the ship. Blanket parties were a common way to convince holdouts to "volunteer".
The bond you talking about. I went thru it, you went thru it. No matter what time, or when. We are brothers. We earned the EGA
A buddy of mine, the son of a tent preacher, had volunteered for service and to go to Viet Nam. He believed in the cause. The stuff he ran into in country changed the course of his life.
Orphans were common enough and tended to go to towns and scrounge for whatever garbage they could find to eat. A woman, a VC operative, had gathers up a few of these 3 to 5 year olds and fed them. They, of course, transferred their love and trust to this woman feeding and otherwise taking care of them. On this day, my buddy and two of his brothers were walking through this town looking around. They had a little time to themselves. This VC operative handed a 4 year old girl a grenade, she pulled the pin and told the girl to go hand it to the soldiers. My buddy saw the girl and, as children do, she was holding the grenade out to hand it to one of them while toddling toward them. He faced the choice he was given and put a burst into that little girls chest. They hit the ground and avoided the shrapnel though many civilians were injured. The last time I saw him more than 3 decades later he still couldn't get that little girl out of his dreams. War is never clean though some are dirtier than others. The training, creating that brotherhood, is also so you have those brothers to help you through those insane painful moments.
Everyone in Vietnam seems to have a story like that.
"How can you shoot women and children?"
"Easy. You just don't lead 'em so much."
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I did Army Combat Engineer in 1990, we called it a blanket party. I only saw 1 blanket party in my bay and the guy cried almost all night after. But I was one of the few that didn't participate because the logic of beating a man down more didn't make since. Also Drill found food in another soldiers locker, and he smoked the entire bay for several hours strait on a Sunday morning. Drills took turns. After 40 minutes a new Drill walk in and continue. It was one of the worst days in my life in basic. That soldiers actually got recycled, not sure if they feared he was going to get hurt or he was just a fuck up so the recycled him.
I remember reading something similar about soldiers on front line. In WW2 they where rotated 45-60 days, but Nam was like 300 days a year.
I absolutely love this fuckin film.
Class of 1980 in Ft. Lost in the woods, MO. and our Sgt. talk just like this to us! But at graduation I heard him say "look at my fine young studs". I couldn't have been more proud!
Great movie!!
R. Lee Ermey was a Drill Sgt. back in the day, he was the technical advisor for the actors playing DS's and cadre in the film, but when Kubrick saw him do some example scenes as a DS, he just hired him as the actor for the role, he was that damn good and natural at it from his background, something like 70% of his lines ended up being ad lib. RIP to a legend.
I heard about a "sock party" (also called a "blanket party") that happened at Bragg in my time in, the used padlocks and killed the guy. Of course, we all know how stories are in the pipeline. The only "hazing" that we did was stuff like hiding kit on each other, shaving off an eyebrow in their sleep or drawing sharpie d1cks all over the face lol, fairly harmless though one guy did graduate with one eyebrow. War is hell.
Keep up the fire dudes!!!
The actor originally cast to be the DS got the role of Helicopter Door Gunner as a consolation prize.
He was a drill instructor… Drill instructor not drill sergeant, that’s army
@@JaySantana-so9zw Yeah yeah (I was Army, force of habit lol)
@@unclerojelio6320 Is that right? Damn lol
@@JaySantana-so9zw You got to it first.
Respect and Gratitude for your Service and dedication!
It's frustrating to have grown physically and psychologically with this film only to encounter DOZENS of 'Reaction' channels presenting it via thumbnail/caption as if it were a Dragonball-Z episode.
The video I also watched referring to the "Duality" of this movie was VERY enlightening!
Though not as intense as this, I went through Marine Corps Recruit Training in Oct 2011. Unlike in this film, I had four Drill Instructors acting similar to Gunny Hartman. R.Lee Ermey was an actual Marine Corps Drill Instructor during the Vietnam War. Marines go to Recruit Training in San Diego, CA and Parris Island, So. Carolina and have Drill Instructors, not Drill Sergeants. This film was adapted from the novel "The Short Timers". The book and film are about Marines, not Soldiers, because the original author served in the Marines
The boot camp we went through opposed to during that time focused more on the mental than the physical....despite it being physical.
It's a great fucking book
This version of recruit training in the movie was nothing like recruit training at mcrd San Diego 2009.
@@andrewheitmeyer9945, I was at San Diego in Oct 2011- Jan 2012 and can say it was much easier and less intense than what my dad went through twenty years prior
@@15blackshirt i went through PI in 2002 and my experience was spot on to this movie. Granted this was after 9/11 so all of the stories we heard about how the Mothers of America had softened it up were all BS. We got out asses waxed, and it was very much dont ask dont tell when it came to how discipline and training were done.
Bro what you said about learning from the Vietnam war and leaving soldiers in combat for too long was so important, much respect to you, great incite coming from a someone like yourself who obviously knows his shit
It was par for the coarse at that time the 60’s . I went through pretty much the same harassment in Army boot camp in 69 . Growing up in barrio before boot helped too . Old school dad and old school uncles who served in WW2 and Korea helped toughen me up as well . I can honestly say that today’s military is pussified that I won’t recommend it to my grandsons . Thank you gentlemen for your service . 🇺🇸.
I want to add some missing analysis context to what you guys said about the virgin mary scene: That scene was less about Pyle and more about Joker. The point of Hartman grilling joker as hard as he did was to see if Joker would stick to his decision in the face of extreme pressure. Hartman didn't care about what he believed in, he just wanted to see joker stick to his guns, which he did and why he was rewarded with a promotion on the spot. DI's aren't just there to enforce physical standards, they are looking for potential future officers as well.
I’m so glad that you guys have given Full Metal Jacket a good reaction, and man did I have such a good laugh with you guys at the very beginning which has to be my favorite part, gotta love Gunny’s improvised act as a Drill Sergeant, just by being a complete badass.
Also, if you wouldn’t mind me reposting, here in the Philippines, the mandatory military service is back, which means that I’ll be getting the ROTC training just as I get back into school someday. What would be your advice for fellow Filipinos like I do, and I love you guys (no homo ofc but rlly), keep it up, you guys rock!
Never be another marine like Lee we love him. Thank you Lee for your service. Lots of love.❤❤
I joined the Army in Oct 85' and we had a kid who would not wash and the drill sgt's let us know this soldier needed to learn personal hygiene. So we gave him a squad shower. Not really violent but definitely a message was sent.
I did my Army basic in 82. We had a soldier with the same problem in my Platoon. Our DS also gave us the same advice. I did not personally participate- but he was given a wire brush shower by some in our Platoon.
Same thing in summer of ‘85 in my training platoon
Things havent changed much because I went through 2012 and we did the same thing with a private that wouldnt take a shower. Drill SGT let us real quick we would regret our lifes if he caught that private one more time. without personal hygene done.
The difference is that most of these Marines were going straight to Vietnam and people were dying. The level of no f*ing around was straight primal. High turnover and high danger makes for the average man to resort to brutal but effective tactics.
Great way to start a Sunday morning 👌🔥
Great reaction! I served in Korea under Reagan. Basic at Fort Jackson SC was amazing with uphill runs in sand with full gear and weapon.
What a time.
I reported to boot camp July 27, 1987…it sucked, they yelled and screamed at us and PT’d the shit out of us, but the thing that kept me terrified was getting a 2 week recycle for effing up or getting hurt…we had dudes that rolled through our company that had been there for months…some of them for medical stuff, which they got treated just like everybody else when they showed up, the dudes that got rolled in with us because they were fuckups already had a target on them and most of them ended up with another recycle…good times…😳
I went through in 92 at Benning. It was quite an experience
I graduated Bootcamp on Parris Island June 28th 1988. The night before graduation, our Senior DI took us to the base theater to see Full Metal Jacket with the rest of our series.
every time I see the soap/sock party clip I wince..... one of our platoons during basic took out one of their own. Since the movie came out in 1987 and our basic was 1988....everyone thought it is was acceptable. (Including the instructors yelling at us like we were going to NAM or something....MF'ers)
2 is 1 and 1 is none. True. But in Vietnam, at least in the Army, the job did indeed fall to a single soldier. He was called a “forward observer”. It was one of the shortest lifespan jobs in the army. The only possible job that was worse was the “tunnel rats”. The little guys that went into the damn tunnels to clear them out. And even the tunnel rats generally went in in pairs. But the forward observers were generally alone.
Do Jarhead next
I know this is old and you probably know already, but I have to say it. R. Lee Ermey was a Marine DI in real life. That's where he pulls so much of this from. He wasn't even originally in the movie, he was just there as an advisor! He was doing something one day and Stanley Kubrick saw it, was impressed, and had him do an audition. He loved it so much that he fired the original guy and put Ermey in that role. Dude is an absolute monster because this is what he lived through himself, he went into the Corps at 17 in '61.
Modern day veteran may laugh at this now . But I can tell you this. I know pre 1990 vets that had meltdowns from watching this movie just because of the basic training scene. My unit was one of the last ones to go through fort Jackson where they can still beat the shit out of you in the early nineties. Couple with that my father was a DI in the '60s and he said they were too easy in the movie.
bro my DI's still would beat the shit out of you in PI in 2002. My rackmate got taken to the boiler room off the quarterdeck and got his ass handed to him. We just didnt talk about it when we were asked if it ever happened lol.
Thank you for your service. Honored for your reaction
The boot camp scenes bring back memories for me. I was in boot camp at Parris Island in summer of 81. The Drill Instructors called us everything in the book, and even got inventive with the labels.Pvt Joker types existed, and would get the platoon smoked, either in the pit or wherever they could get us. One thing they made sure of though, was no recruit had live rounds at the end of everyday on the range.
Well obviously someone fucked up. I remember there was a string of long cables going through the chambers of each and every rifle and through the loop of the rifle rack and continuing through the next rifle and rack. Also google ribbon creek incident, and I am sure there are other incidents because the Crucible wasn't a thing until after I left active duty.
They also had already graduated and would have returned their rifles to the armory before next duty station. But, procedures may have been different in the 1960s than 1987.
@@leonardleffler1914 He hid the M14 in his footlocker because it's magic and that's where he hid the donut. I mean seriously, I remember getting patted down for loose ammo. It's a movie.
I have always heard it called a "blanket party" - I was in boot in 1987 literally weeks after this movie was released. They tried to organize a blanket party against a brown nose/snitch...it did not happen but it was certainly directly because of this movie. The CCs were also definitely using lines from this movie.
WHATS UP BUCK I talk to my recruiter tomorrow glad to watch another one of your videos beforehand lol
Good luck brother 👌
The guy who plays the door gunner was originally cast as GySgt. Hartman, and, R. Lee Ermey was just the technical advisor. Then, one day, when they were rehearsing for the opening scene, Ermey showed up on set in his old uniform, and, fell right back into his DI persona. Kubrick immediately gave the role to him.
It was definitely culture shock, which I believe helps to acclimate one to P.O.W. status under the Geneva Convention, if ever one would ever find themselves there…because you’ve essentially been there before. There is a definite bond of brotherhood that develops among guys that says you can mess with another member but anybody outside the group better not. Aside from a few minor differences, the boot camp scenes were exactly the same. Physical abuse was being phased out, though it did happen, when I went through Parris Island. We called getting smoked “getting dug” whether in the sand pits or on the quarter deck and it happened a lot and the effects were the same. I never saw a blanket party but knew other Marines that did. There is strong cohesiveness when discipline occurs within the unit holding each other accountable. This was a great film.