What’s truly scary is a guy did an in-depth analysis of the attack itself, and the Japanese missed about 40% of the stuff they shot at, and focused more than half of their attack solely against the battleships. The attack could have been two to three times more devastating than it actually was.
The primary goal was to stop the battleship line of the pacific fleet from immediatly retaliating and disrupting the japanese plan of invasion of South East Asia giving a 6 months windom of opportunity to Japan. The japanese also wanted to prevent any possibility of Hawaï air forces to counter attack against Kido Butai. They did that to the letter. Yes they could have caught a carrier or 2 and they also could have inflicted far more damages to the cruisers and destroyers of the US pacific fleet and also to the navy facilities at Pearl. But those were not the primary targets. Unfortunately this plan was a folly. The old battleship line was obsolete and the US had no intention to send them against the Philipines on day one. The destroyers and cruisers of the pacific fleet proved to be far more valuable. Pearl Harbour did not knock out the pacific fleet the slightest. Every japanese assumptions proved to be wrong.
Actually the Japanese really wanted the Aircraft carriers, but none of them were in port on that day. Also the Imperials for some reason didn't launch a second wave to go after the massive oil and fuel reserves on the island. Two major blunders by the IJN.
@@Frankie2012channela bit mistaken - there was a second way of air attack. Mostly on airfields and some ships remaining "on water". But Japanese admiral stopped third wave of attack - and leave repairing docks and oil reservoirs undamaged. And this was, how history shows later, literally a strategic mistake.
Wrong the main target was the Aircraft Carrier the docks, the fuel Depots and least the Battleships. Japanese didnt saw CVs so they decidet to get glory Kills instead of mission. @@vlad78th
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History says, the attack of Pearl Harbour was terrible act of war. And operation "Oppenheimer" was a terrible war crime, grinded two cities into dust. note that I respect America and it's achievements.
@@NewYoyo2A based on how negatively US propaganda portrayed the Japanese back then, I'm surprised the US didn't ignore Japan's formal surrender and continue dropping more and more atom bombs on more and more cities for years after the war until they had completely wiped out the entire population of Japan.
@amiraldodo Uhh, no. There are Nevada class, Pennsylvania class, Tennessee class and Colorado class in there. Nevada and Pennsylvania's are similar in aesthetics, due to their twin bell like towers on fore to aft, the only difference is their guns, Nevadas has ten guns while the Pennsylvanias has 12 guns. Tennessee and Colorados are also similar in aesthetics on their towers, only difference is once more is their guns. Tennessees has triple gun turrets while the Colorados have twin "16 turrets. If you mean they're super dreadnoughts that came from Pre, current and post WW1 then yes. But they're not the same classes.
The script writers did their best to stick to the history (specifically, going off the book Shattered Sword a lot). The visual effects artists... not so much.
Pearl Harbor was shot in 2001 and it had 10 times better visual effect than this pos 18 years later. Why is hollywood downgrading? Many movies are like this now, including the old jurassic park and the new one
@@pehotanoo5981 The movie 'Pearl Harbor' was a dumpster fire full of dog crap. One of the few movies that I couldn't force myself to sit through to the end.
Okay, the attack didn’t begin with low level strafing runs. Also, if you’re housed in the officer housing on Ford Island, your dishes rattling wouldn’t be the first indication of something wrong. You’d hear everything like it was right outside your door, because it was. Where the Utah sank wasn’t even 200 meters from the housing. The little curious girl playing in her yard during the initial attack would’ve definitely felt her bones rattle from the concussion of the explosions she was seeing. Even at her age she would’ve known that something terrible was happening and that her life were in danger. She would’ve run before her mom could even say a word. Maybe the producers could’ve actually used common sense when producing this super cliche movie. The movies always make this attack out to be on a huge area. Hickam and Pearl aren’t big as compared to most targets. One bomb blowing up anywhere on either of the bases were felt and mostly visible across the bases. There are still scars all across the bases on Oahu. Hell, even the barracks I operated out of for 9 years still had bullet holes and shrapnel damage from the attack on the island. You can still find patched bomb craters on most of the airfields that we use to this day.
my observations are based on what Montemayor presented on his channel, in my eyes the attack on Perl Harbor in this film looked very chaotic, all types of planes do whatever they like, while Montemayor talked about how, despite major mistakes, the attack was quite well coordinated
@@Fanumtaxer48 hes not even a nerd, just making assumptions of the people, , of the 40's war, doubting how a little girl reacts, and how coordination is, he fails to realize that all the officers thought these were American fly show, it was not until they attacked that they realized, it is why its a surprise attack, many people want to believe that WW2 was so different, yet the way us humans reacted never changed, we call them brave because they were there trying to take out the enemy upfront while they had machines, and not swords they still used that machine as their sword, say kamikaze pilots of the japannese, now a days its all tech and drones, we face the enemy from a camera, its not even the same, if your not using missiles and tech but pure original conventional weapons then there's your true brave people, he also fails to notice ITS A MOVIE, not everything can be accurate the way you wanted, they are trying to grab all the peoples audience, its called marketing, not just military people or historians but all., if he was nerd he would not be complaining the way he is right now
My father was living in the hills above Honolulu when Michael Bay was filming his version of Pearl Harbor. One of the practical explosions in the harbor was so loud that it rattled windows all the way up the H2 freeway into Aiea and Waipahu. You're correct in that everyone would be hearing the explosions in the harbor, unless they were up the H2 into Wahiawa and even then you got a clear visual of the harbor from there too.
@@Frankie2012channel well they’d have seen the attack in Wahiawa too though. Wheeler and Schofield were hit pretty hard. The initial wave’s flight path was through the Kolekole Pass and subsequently over Schofield and Wheeler. I’d heard that the attackers had strafed civilians in Wahiawa but I’m not sure if that’s accurate. When I was first assigned to 25th Infantry Division LRRS-D in 2004 I lived in D Quad on Schofield and thought it was so cool that there were still scars of the attack around the quads. Hickam has more buildings like that though. Did you ever see all of the ship components and pieces still scattered around the edge of the water of Pearl and Ford Island? When I was first assigned to Hawaii I was stunned by how much of the remnants of the attack were still not fixed or removed. It makes you think of how bad the aftermath must’ve been if it is still so visible so much later.
It wasn’t. It was overhyped and the world dismissed it as US Good WWII Propaganda… They spent half as much as production budget just to advertise it and people have seen and known how they’d portray Midway, it’s only the third film to cover it.
The actual pattern of the Japanese planes was not along the American ships And they suffered more torpedo damage than bombs One of the reasons They were all raised Again due to having good attack decks Able to fight back
Why not have the Kate torpedo planes going low and perpendicular to the line as the first sign of attack. You even have the actor casually looking to the left after being dressed down and seeing the bombers dropping their torpedoes. The Zeroes were only escorts and were expected to cover the bombers and then strafe the airfields after their charges finished their attack. Then the high level bombers dropped their heavy bombs from high altitude like shown (kind of but they looked quite low). I think the only torpedo shown was dropped like a skip bomb off the bow of a battleship at point blank range. The torpedo would not even arm. The Zeroes would not be weaving in between exploding ships as the Zeroes were light and vulnerable to Flak. You can make a good cinematic Pearl Harbor without making it so inaccurate.
3:07 they hide behind a tiny metal wall and then this massive explosion goes off (likely the Arizona) and they live somehow. Honestly they should have jumped in the water at least. Be more believable.
It is Arizona and you cant jump in the water since the ships fuel is leaking and its on fire ,i mean the officer corpse were charred to the bones with only his ring that identified him.
Yes. It's almost like a nod towards "Pearl Harbor", as if to say "here, look- we've done it better, and it's only the prologue!". Even so, compared to "Tora Tora Tora!" it's nowhere.
@@nintendoandwowsblitz they use Arizona models instead of different class of ships and Arizona sinking lot of inaccurate in real life the bomb hit’s starboard side and sunk upright
And how did they know where the ships were? How did they know how deep the harbor was? How did they know anything about anything about the location? I won't tell you, but we gave them $20,000.
What’s truly scary is a guy did an in-depth analysis of the attack itself, and the Japanese missed about 40% of the stuff they shot at, and focused more than half of their attack solely against the battleships. The attack could have been two to three times more devastating than it actually was.
The primary goal was to stop the battleship line of the pacific fleet from immediatly retaliating and disrupting the japanese plan of invasion of South East Asia giving a 6 months windom of opportunity to Japan. The japanese also wanted to prevent any possibility of Hawaï air forces to counter attack against Kido Butai. They did that to the letter. Yes they could have caught a carrier or 2 and they also could have inflicted far more damages to the cruisers and destroyers of the US pacific fleet and also to the navy facilities at Pearl. But those were not the primary targets. Unfortunately this plan was a folly. The old battleship line was obsolete and the US had no intention to send them against the Philipines on day one. The destroyers and cruisers of the pacific fleet proved to be far more valuable. Pearl Harbour did not knock out the pacific fleet the slightest. Every japanese assumptions proved to be wrong.
Actually the Japanese really wanted the Aircraft carriers, but none of them were in port on that day. Also the Imperials for some reason didn't launch a second wave to go after the massive oil and fuel reserves on the island. Two major blunders by the IJN.
@@Frankie2012channela bit mistaken - there was a second way of air attack. Mostly on airfields and some ships remaining "on water". But Japanese admiral stopped third wave of attack - and leave repairing docks and oil reservoirs undamaged. And this was, how history shows later, literally a strategic mistake.
Wrong the main target was the Aircraft Carrier the docks, the fuel Depots and least the Battleships. Japanese didnt saw CVs so they decidet to get glory Kills instead of mission. @@vlad78th
E chissa’come mai le portaerei non c’erano…….😱in compenso lasciati intatti depositi carburante e cantieri di riparazione Quindi 6 mesi dopo erano già tutto apposto di nuovo
3:34 swords and sandals sounds 😂
I cam here hoping to find this comment hahahahaha
Um could you explain I don't understand.
Yoo😂😂
Ahhhh great memories!
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Japan: Attack Pearl Harbour
US: Operation "Oppenheimer" begins
History says, the attack of Pearl Harbour was terrible act of war. And operation "Oppenheimer" was a terrible war crime, grinded two cities into dust. note that I respect America and it's achievements.
A USA shame
Between destroying an military fleet and killing thousand of civilians and completely destroying two cities, yes its a shame
The Manhattan Project*
@@NewYoyo2A based on how negatively US propaganda portrayed the Japanese back then, I'm surprised the US didn't ignore Japan's formal surrender and continue dropping more and more atom bombs on more and more cities for years after the war until they had completely wiped out the entire population of Japan.
It was great watching this at the Cinema.
Same saw it with my dad and told him everything
one of my favorite movies ❤
2:05 you can see that he’s reading a news paper with the front cover about singapore losing its footing in the war
It's impressive how Pearl Harbor (2001) has infinitely superior CGI and practical effects than this film.
Lmfao just was gonna say that lmfao
...and that was far too bloody 'comic book' as to be unbelievable. I am so glad that the 'Battle of Britain' was made before CGI.......
And it had infinitely inferior accuracy of depicting the actual ships that were there.
Overall this scene
Entertainment 10/10
Accuracies 2/10
acting 4/10
Why do every battleship in there looks exactly like each other?? 😂
because theses battleship belong to the same class
@amiraldodo Uhh, no. There are Nevada class, Pennsylvania class, Tennessee class and Colorado class in there. Nevada and Pennsylvania's are similar in aesthetics, due to their twin bell like towers on fore to aft, the only difference is their guns, Nevadas has ten guns while the Pennsylvanias has 12 guns. Tennessee and Colorados are also similar in aesthetics on their towers, only difference is once more is their guns. Tennessees has triple gun turrets while the Colorados have twin "16 turrets.
If you mean they're super dreadnoughts that came from Pre, current and post WW1 then yes. But they're not the same classes.
The script writers did their best to stick to the history (specifically, going off the book Shattered Sword a lot).
The visual effects artists... not so much.
Pearl Harbor was shot in 2001 and it had 10 times better visual effect than this pos 18 years later. Why is hollywood downgrading? Many movies are like this now, including the old jurassic park and the new one
@@pehotanoo5981 The movie 'Pearl Harbor' was a dumpster fire full of dog crap. One of the few movies that I couldn't force myself to sit through to the end.
@@SCAR16Lwe are specifically talking about the battle scene wich is faaaaar superior to this shit. Just look at the fire lmao looks like a PS2 game
@@gilgamesh8334 Pearl Harbor sucked so bad I couldn't even make it to the battle scene.
@@gilgamesh8334shoutout Medal of Honor: Rising Sun, that game was the best🍷🗿
Doris Miller still deserves the Medal of Honor.
He is getting an Aircraft Carrier named after him
how is it that the Pearl Harbor (2001) movie made the attack for more immersive on screen??
3:12
You want confirmation? Take a look. There's your confirmation.
2:56 HIT THE DECK!!!
hope in future someone will make a series of Naval and Air battle in Pacific ocean taking story from different ww2 pacific naval battle books
B5N Torpedo Bombers never had forward firing machine guns.....
At 1:15 he drops a torpedo that is obviously going to miss. Not amidships.
Would you rather that be a complete miss of a bomb?
@@Bludiamond_Titanium My druthers are irrelevant.
The ships are moored. They aren't moving. Even if it misses that ship, it's gonna hit something.
Okay, the attack didn’t begin with low level strafing runs. Also, if you’re housed in the officer housing on Ford Island, your dishes rattling wouldn’t be the first indication of something wrong. You’d hear everything like it was right outside your door, because it was. Where the Utah sank wasn’t even 200 meters from the housing. The little curious girl playing in her yard during the initial attack would’ve definitely felt her bones rattle from the concussion of the explosions she was seeing. Even at her age she would’ve known that something terrible was happening and that her life were in danger. She would’ve run before her mom could even say a word. Maybe the producers could’ve actually used common sense when producing this super cliche movie. The movies always make this attack out to be on a huge area. Hickam and Pearl aren’t big as compared to most targets. One bomb blowing up anywhere on either of the bases were felt and mostly visible across the bases. There are still scars all across the bases on Oahu. Hell, even the barracks I operated out of for 9 years still had bullet holes and shrapnel damage from the attack on the island. You can still find patched bomb craters on most of the airfields that we use to this day.
my observations are based on what Montemayor presented on his channel, in my eyes the attack on Perl Harbor in this film looked very chaotic, all types of planes do whatever they like, while Montemayor talked about how, despite major mistakes, the attack was quite well coordinated
Nerd
@@Fanumtaxer48 hes not even a nerd, just making assumptions of the people, , of the 40's war, doubting how a little girl reacts, and how coordination is, he fails to realize that all the officers thought these were American fly show, it was not until they attacked that they realized, it is why its a surprise attack, many people want to believe that WW2 was so different, yet the way us humans reacted never changed, we call them brave because they were there trying to take out the enemy upfront while they had machines, and not swords they still used that machine as their sword, say kamikaze pilots of the japannese, now a days its all tech and drones, we face the enemy from a camera, its not even the same, if your not using missiles and tech but pure original conventional weapons then there's your true brave people, he also fails to notice ITS A MOVIE, not everything can be accurate the way you wanted, they are trying to grab all the peoples audience, its called marketing, not just military people or historians but all., if he was nerd he would not be complaining the way he is right now
My father was living in the hills above Honolulu when Michael Bay was filming his version of Pearl Harbor. One of the practical explosions in the harbor was so loud that it rattled windows all the way up the H2 freeway into Aiea and Waipahu. You're correct in that everyone would be hearing the explosions in the harbor, unless they were up the H2 into Wahiawa and even then you got a clear visual of the harbor from there too.
@@Frankie2012channel well they’d have seen the attack in Wahiawa too though. Wheeler and Schofield were hit pretty hard. The initial wave’s flight path was through the Kolekole Pass and subsequently over Schofield and Wheeler. I’d heard that the attackers had strafed civilians in Wahiawa but I’m not sure if that’s accurate. When I was first assigned to 25th Infantry Division LRRS-D in 2004 I lived in D Quad on Schofield and thought it was so cool that there were still scars of the attack around the quads. Hickam has more buildings like that though. Did you ever see all of the ship components and pieces still scattered around the edge of the water of Pearl and Ford Island? When I was first assigned to Hawaii I was stunned by how much of the remnants of the attack were still not fixed or removed. It makes you think of how bad the aftermath must’ve been if it is still so visible so much later.
I can't imagine what it felt to be in Hawaii during this your just chillin and suddenly you hear explosions in the back and Japanese planes over head
Really underrated film.
It wasn’t. It was overhyped and the world dismissed it as US Good WWII Propaganda… They spent half as much as production budget just to advertise it and people have seen and known how they’d portray Midway, it’s only the third film to cover it.
@@smoketinytom wdym it was one of the most underrated films I ever saw.
@@nintendoandwowsblitz Read through what I said before asking that dumb question, since it’s explained in the first comment.
@@smoketinytom I mean what do you mean by "us good WWII propaganda"
@@smoketinytomgood point. many inaccuracies, but that aint changing my opinion and others opinion. keep your opinion, blud.
At 3:13 is the only accurate scene in the movie, where the torpedo bombers actually launch their torps from the sides and not the bow.
3:13 on December 7th, 1941, the Imperial Japanese Navy attacking the US Naval Base in Pearl Harbor Hawaii
Bjorn Ironside has really been through a lot in history, eh?
I seriously doubt those battleships went up in flames like that after few rounds of machine gun fire. Nice graphics, though.
Bjorn Ironside a natural born leader in any era
But what does the attack have to do with Singapore?
Can’t hold a candle to “Tora! Tora! Tora!” of 1970. I see that it took ideas from “Pearl Harbor” 2001 and ‘tried’ to improve it with cgi.
1970*
@@jkorshakmy mistake got it corrected.
The film makers for Tora! Tora! Tora! respected history and tried to make the film as historically accurate as possible
YES
Some rather glaring inaccuracies
It's a film.. Go and watch a documentary if you want reality.
@@eggwitheyez ok then lol
It's a film.. they only did it in purpose for entertainment. If you want reality then just go on Disney and look at documentarys or something.
@@nintendoandwowsblitz sure sure lol
Where is Ben Affleck..?
Roland emmerich did a better more accurate depiction of pearl harbor than michael bay did
The actual pattern of the Japanese planes was not along the American ships And they suffered more torpedo damage than bombs One of the reasons They were all raised Again due to having good attack decks Able to fight back
Why not have the Kate torpedo planes going low and perpendicular to the line as the first sign of attack. You even have the actor casually looking to the left after being dressed down and seeing the bombers dropping their torpedoes. The Zeroes were only escorts and were expected to cover the bombers and then strafe the airfields after their charges finished their attack. Then the high level bombers dropped their heavy bombs from high altitude like shown (kind of but they looked quite low). I think the only torpedo shown was dropped like a skip bomb off the bow of a battleship at point blank range. The torpedo would not even arm. The Zeroes would not be weaving in between exploding ships as the Zeroes were light and vulnerable to Flak. You can make a good cinematic Pearl Harbor without making it so inaccurate.
bro what is ragnar lothbrok's son doing here
This movie was all bacon no sizzle.
I’d say and I wasn’t even mildly impressed by this scene.
How
3:07 they hide behind a tiny metal wall and then this massive explosion goes off (likely the Arizona) and they live somehow. Honestly they should have jumped in the water at least. Be more believable.
It is Arizona and you cant jump in the water since the ships fuel is leaking and its on fire ,i mean the officer corpse were charred to the bones with only his ring that identified him.
Pearl Harbor attack scene was unnecessary the film could have started aftermath of attack
Yes. It's almost like a nod towards "Pearl Harbor", as if to say "here, look- we've done it better, and it's only the prologue!". Even so, compared to "Tora Tora Tora!" it's nowhere.
But it makes the movie more entertaining and the midway plan kinda starts there to remind the audience what happened before and after.
@@nintendoandwowsblitz they use Arizona models instead of different class of ships and Arizona sinking lot of inaccurate in real life the bomb hit’s starboard side and sunk upright
@@klipsfilmsmelbourne well it kind of did sink upright.
@@nintendoandwowsblitz and smoke of Arizona bridge is blowing the wrong way if you look up accurate photo the smoke is blowing forward
And how did they know where the ships were? How did they know how deep the harbor was? How did they know anything about anything about the location? I won't tell you, but we gave them $20,000.
This scene ruined this movie, torpedo bombers don’t attack from the bows they attack from the broad side
I know, but I think I they did that on purpose for entertainment.
Yes True they did.
Yes true they attack from the Broad side. Yes they propably did it for Entertainment
Eat your heart out Michael Bay!
2:05 Singapore on war footage? What are they talking about?
War footing
Oppenheimer prequel
yes no
Terrible CGI
Es fácil hablar en 2024 pulpin
Can someone explain why in modern movies weapons no mather what sound like toys.
Modern sound design, SUCKS!
Worst mistake Japan made
It was.
It looks like totall trash, cgi 2009
😂😂😂🎉
Of course they have to have the little sailor boy say he doesn’t believe in God. Hollywood sucks so bad.
2:52,3:00 on December 7th, 1941 USS Arizona has been bombed and destroyed by the Japanese bomber
実際は民間人は狙っておらずあくまでも軍港のみですからね、あとは石油タンクとかを破壊すれば良かったのに
terrible movie
Highly disagree.
@@nintendoandwowsblitzI Highly Disagree too.
@@nintendoandwowsblitzIt wasn't a terrible Movie.
@@tristanwhite3472 exactly.
Le 07 Décembre 1941 une attaque surprise du Japon.
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