Fire On Board (Swissair Flight 111) - DISASTER BREAKDOWN
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- A fire on board eats its way through the inner workings of Swissair flight 111. It leaves the crew helpless as they lose communication with the ground and essential instruments disconnect. This incident killed over 200 passengers and crew.
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Oh god. Only one intact body. I don't even want to think of the rest of those poor people. I can't even imagine.
Instant death
Fortunately, or unfortunately, in SWR111's case, it would be the final 2 or 3 minutes, when the fire finally broke through the first and business class ceiling that anyone forward of the cockpit would have become aware of an actual fire. Smoke would have been apparent before that. It's likely the cabin temp at the front increased due to thermal radiation from the ceiling, but nothing alarming until the very end. Within the final minute or two, burning plastic from the ceiling was dripping down in the first and business class seats and aisle carpets, the curtain at the front between galleys 1, 2 and 3 and the first class cabin was on fire at the top, the ceiling above the cockpit door and galley was melting and likely on fire, and so the passengers in the final 60-90 seconds would have known of the fire, but whether they were conscious or not due to the steep dive is not known.
Given how far the nose was pitched down combined with how fast they were going, they would have been thrown upwards to the ceiling and likely unconscious from the huge rush of blood to their brains, or that's what I hope anyway. The cockpit temperature at F/O Lowe's legs was hot enough to melt the checklist he was holding (melting point 110-130 degrees Celsius, skin burns at 120 degrees Celsius), due to the huge amount of hot smoke and flame pouring from the ceiling.
- One of the pilot's headset had melted, the plastic had a melting point of 170+ degrees Celsius, and I think that Loew was simply in too much pain to have any control over the aircraft, he would have been very badly burnt, given the thermal conditions of the cockpit wreckage, and that sort of pain is incapacitating. It was a truly terrible place to be, in the front 50 feet of the airplane in the final 180 seconds. The cockpit was literally a furnace. The final nose down input I think was due to the possible fact that Lowe's body was leant against the yoke. Engine 1 was at 110% N1, engine 2 off, and engine 3 at just above flight idle, so the differential thrust would account for the roll. All that pain, and suffering, and being incinerated alive, all because the airline decided to install a non-tested IFEN?
The in flight entertainment turned into a real horror movie.
Its also highly likely that any smoke entering the cabin would have very quickly sooted up all surfaces including windscreens, guages, instruments, oxygen masks, everything.
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I still remember this. Flight 111 was what brought me into the world of Aviation in the first place, since I loved fire engines and learning about the hazards of fires in general. It feels nostalgic to be watching about this again after years...
So sad. They did all they thought was the right thing and it wasn’t. RIP Swissair 111.
Imagine not knowing whether you're up or down, left or right, and can't see a damn thing... WHILE IN THE AIR. Jesus, how terrifying that just have been 😔
As another commentator said, I don't think the erratic flying at the end was a conscious attempt. At best the cockpit was empty, more likely his burning body was slumped against the controls.
I arrived from Johannesburg in Zurich only one day before with a Swissair MD 11. Still wondering was it the same plane. Unfortunately I never found the name of our plane in old pictures from that particular family vacation. I was 10 years old and that incident triggered a lifelong fear of flying.
The MD-11 that crashed: H-IBWF, was named Vaud.
@@brianwong7285 thank you. Unfortunately I can't find the name of the aircraft we arrived in
@@brianwong7285 Shit that's my home canton 😳
Rather unlikely, as the aircraft was flying to Geneva I guess that it was based there at that time and was only flying out of Geneva
@@spongebubatz yeah, I think so too
I would like to suggest you do a video on the UPS plane that caught fire, I think it was over Dubai. It had a bunch of cell phone batteries in the cargo that caught fire. All the instruments went out, the cockpit was full of smoke, and it was night time over the unilluminated desert. The pilots oxygen didn't work and he suffocated. The copilot kept the plane in the air a very long time and actually managed to make it to an airport, but was moving to fast for the ILS to capture, so the plane couldn't land itself. It was truly a nightmare scenario.
Damn, it’s crazy how the did everything by the book and it was the turning off the fans that really screwed them over… wild stuff
Just want to clarify that there have never been steam gauges on an airplane. "Steam gauge" is just slang for analog gauges
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As someone learning soldering for ts jacks/xlr for sound equipment. For a good reliable cable, the wiring needs slack, for just general movement. When I saw that part of the video I knew exactly why.
Right when Lowe said "Roger, and we are declaring an emergency now, Swissair 111", I could hear the autopilot disconnection warning in the background.
I have always had some sort of a personal connection and fascination with the crash of SWR111, I really donot know why or how but I always feel something personal whenever I watch any video about it. Anyways nice video and nice work regarding the other incidents
For me it's because I know the area I visited there many time when I lived in Halifax. I also knew some of those involved in the searching. The place is such a beautiful laid back area, this tragedy also showed the spirit and compassion of the people of Peggy's Cove.
I do too because it happened about two days after I flew into London from the U.S. and was in Europe when I heard about it.
When were you born? Perhaps you were a passenger in your past life, or maybe you knew one in your past life. If such things exist
@@melatoninqueen6914 November 1999 , just over a year after the incident .
@@mayankbaruah3997 I suppose it’s possible you were one of them.
Since the CVR and FDR cut out six minutes before the crash, we'll never know for sure what happened in the final six minutes, other than that the fire turned into an inferno, the Captain was incapacitated and the First Officer lost control of the plane. There is one eerie thing that's worth bringing up though. When the engines were recovered during the salvage operation, engine No.3, that is on the Boeing MD-11, the engine on the right wing, wasn't turning when it hit the water. This implied to the investigators that during the First Officer's attempt to control the aircraft, the No.3 engine was shut down. As to why he shut down the engine, we'll never know, although some have theorised that the engine might have somehow caught fire.
I live in Beaver Bank (about a half an hour from Halifax), I’m only 15 years old so I didn’t witness this incident, however I have read a book about this. I also have visited the momorial just down from Peggy’s cove. Very ominous feeling, but also very peaceful, it’s very difficult to describe. And also from my parents, they said it was just about the worst thing that has happened in their lifetime that they witnessed, live.
I visited the memorial in July 2022, and I also felt very ominous there
That smaller tail structure of the MD-11 was the cause of 2 crash-landings, both involving FedEx examples.
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RIP
To the passengers and crew of Swissair Flight 111
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I’m not surprised that they brought out the MD-11 to replace the DC-10 considering how many problems the DC-10 had. Especially the cargo door which caused quite a few crashes and killed a lot of people.
Ok the MD11 was a great jet airliner, it’s the idiots that installed a computer system without a coolant system that destroyed that plane, every accident of the DC10 or MD11 was pilot error, or mechanical errors, and even the storage door accidents were partly employee error, due to not taking the time to learn the system and if there’s a issue you should contact the manufacturer for a fix. Look at the Chicago crash, they blamed McDonald Douglas before they even had the info that shoddy maintenance created the issue.
I’m a little bent on this because it ruined a company that created good aircraft at a reasonable price and employed a lot of Americans
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Great comment!
To be exact, there was a design flaw with the cargo door
Amen!
They just rushed it’s production and development to beat out the l 1011
Shame cuz it worked and not as many carriers bought the Tristar as they did dc 10s
Salavge effort for this disaster traumatized a lot of the folks involved in it. Just so many severed body parts had to be found and it took a very long time for this tragedy to be dealt with. Hundreds of people dead and this is how they had to be found, piece by piece, limb by limb. Extensive forensics had to be found to even identify the vast majority of the dead.
It cannot be stressed enough, the plane and its occupants were absolutely demolished.
It also doesn’t help that the plane crashed in an area that is a breeding ground for tourist Darwin Award ceremonies, and some of these same forces that were traumatized by salvaging the parts and people of Swissair Flight 111 have to go rescue folks that get washed away in the same area where those remains had to be found.
You should have at least 1M subs
MD made so the control similar to older plane, for the pilot easier to jump to the new one.... where do i heard that before
I see what you’re referring to but with the DC-10 and MD-11 it’s a different case than with the 737
And the more ironic part is that most of the people in the board at Boeing are ex MD employees
'polyethylene terephthalate' Me: well that sounds flammable.
3:02 eyup
Omg... thats so sad..
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The treasure is still there at the bottom of the ocean. If you try to steal from the wreck, you will be arrested and jailed by the not so polite Canadian cops.
Canadian cops are on the top of the mindless system pigs of the world - sadistic bullies
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How is it thought that the captain left the cockpit to fight the fire? As I understand it, only one body was ever found.
Exactly, nothing can be known.
Also the erratic movements of the plane in it's final minutes were not indicative of fire damaged systems and so it was deemed that the first officer was possibly at the controls trying to fly despite having much less experience.
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Interesting, but the Audio was a bit low.
what?
Do I hear weekly? Pogchamp
always wondered what the song is in the video
Wait, they used PET as an insulation surrounding wires? PET burns fast and easily.
The aircraft insulation (metallized Mylar) is the PET, not the insulation on the wires themselves.
Just like to say all things considered I have 10000 hours command on this airframe and we are trained in certain ways and sometimes to survive you simply have to go outside the Box. Like the fuel dumping . Being on fire is one of the 1 things that you have to forget about dumping fuel. Landed soon as you possibly can no matter what . People don't understand that we can take off much heavier than we can land however in case of a fire it just simply does not make sense. Dump what you can and buy the car washes the next day.
Technology was their downfall as you would know if you can't see you can't fly. It would be like being blindfolded then told to drive a mile and park on a particular street, you wouldn't get very far. At night where they were there is virtually very little to see add smoke and they didn't have a chance.
@@arohk1579 that is why it's so important to get it on the ground as quickly as you can. Dump all you can fuel you can and land like you're Landing a feather. Procedure just can't be compatible with losing lives to fire
@Neat stuff I’m pretty sure they didn’t realize there was a fire as it was hidden and that little smoke went away initially. By the time they did realize, it was too late. Also, you’ll have a hard time telling Swiss people not to follow the rules. It’s a cultural thing.
Just imagine you being in a plane, the power just going out and then you smell smoke and there is orange warm light which turns out to be fire coming from the front. And then you just get lifted off your seat because you’re falling from the sky. Horrible.
This accident is the one that stays with me having flown on an MD11 to Japan. RIP all very sad,
Yo, little late but my dad worked cleanup here in the navy and he said they ran out of body bags in the first 24 hours. Sad
@43 seconds - surely that's a near miss?! What on earth happened there?
It was stall testing
This is an example why the pilots must have night googles when it is needed.
You and mini air crash shld do a collab
1:58 what is the name of that song? The background music
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RIP
Nothing about the diamonds?
Watch flight Swiss air flight 111 the untold story from a RCMP point of view
He shouldn’t have wasted time dumping fuel... RIP
The official report concluded that even if the crew proceeded to land immediately when they saw smoke, there wouldn't be sufficient time to land successfully. The odds were stacked against them, especially the last 5 mins or so when pretty much all their systems failed.
the manual said to turn off the fans, that was what sealed their doom. Next time a plane has a problem I will land it on the nearest air strip or calm river and not touch shit!
All these people, in all these videos, they died not knowing what happened to them. Wikipedia and TH-cam didn't even exist at the time in this particular case.
Nowadays their annihilation is celebrated as casual 'entertainment' for you and me. I don't fly. But if I did, and the plane was going down, rest assured I would know that my plane would feature on TheFlightChannel, AlecJoshuaIbay, or Disaster Breakdown.
Actually, there MUST be some subbers to these 3 channels who have since died in plane crashes. I wonder if they gave a wry internal smile, knowing their crash would be on TH-cam.
Wow you summabish you think like I do
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Disaster Breakdown 2.Mini Air Crash Investigation
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omg yes
I know nothing about aviation nor security in airplanes but I always wondered about in-flight entertainment, isn't it dangerous if an electrical short circuit triggers in those wires?
well if its installed incorrectly such as in swiss air 111 then yes.yes it is dangerous
No, it's not dangerous, if it was it could cause a crash. 0_o
@@krashd like Swiss Air 101
Did he say, "POPULAR" DC10!!!
Popular with undertakers only ...
Even though more people have died on the 737 and 747?
As much as the dc-10 had the deservedly bad reputation safety wise. It was still a successful plane. As mentioned above the 747 and 737 have far more deaths attributed to them.
446 DC-10s were built, sounds like a rather popular aircraft don’t you think
Pilots should never take for granted smoke in the cockpit. Smoke is a sign of fire. They should have declared an emergency and landed immediately. Dumping fuel is a big waste of time at this extremely critical situation! This is a pilot fatal error!
10:14 no it's saudia 163
Another bloody example of the fuck up of check lists i know they have their place , but serjously are pilots not trained in how fire works too .where was the fire
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I have watched every episode of aircrash investigation at least 5 time's up to series 18
In addition to the paintings the plane carried a Saudi prince, a relative of the former shah of Iran and high-profile UN officials. Diamonds and gems that would be worth half a billion dollars today were also on the plane. Very high valuable cargo (wink wink)
That kind of puts things in a different light.
You're next one should be British Airlines speedbird 9
If the book didnt instruct them to leave the fans on, they would have had a slightly higher chance at landing.
Unfortunately, there would have been no way to predict that. If it weren't for the flammable insulation, the most important part of stopping an electrical fire is turning off the electricity.
So the checklist is stupid
All this for the convenience of watching your own choice of movie. Read a book for Christ's sake.
DC10 is such a shit plane that it kills people even when it's not flying (Concord Crash)
What an incredibly ignorant comment
@@chrism74j40 It's not really ignorant, it's insensitive, but knowing of the time a grounded DC10 destroyed a Concord is the complete opposite of ignorance, it is knowledge.
@@krashd Here's some knowledge for you: the captain of that Concorde had decided to overfill the fuel tanks, meaning that when shrapnel hit the bottom of the wing, all that energy had nowhere to go and the fuel tank ruptured. It might also be fun if you explain to the Internet how the DC-10 being grounded in 1979 is linked to a piece of debris on a runway in the year 2000? Some great knowledge to be had there I'm sure . .
@@chrism74j40 OK, it was a DC-10-30, Mr Pedantic.
The moment you step on to a McDonnell Douglas or a Russian made Antonov or Tupolev, you are basically asking for it. Even Boeing had far too many incidents including fatal crashes. Airbus is by far the safest plane manufacturer. The figures speaks for themselves. I have flown with many airlines which have non existent pilot training or minimal servicing standards but luckily most of them use modern Airbus or Boeing aircraft. If its a good plane, even and an idiot flying a neglected plane will land you safely at your destination.
Still, the hydraulic pump sound on A320s scares the shit out of me every time i fly, even though i know exactly where it's coming from lol
Such an ignorant and sophomoric comment.
@@longbeach7623 Go check the data before calling me an ignorant.
@@gubroojatt reread your post. “The moment you step on an MD you are asking for.” Absolutely an asinine statement.
@@longbeach7623 What are you ?? Some kinda MD fan whose tender feelings are hurt by a comment. Look at the data, the plane has very long list of crashes !!!
Sounds like Air France 447, come on pilot, don’t let ur first officer crash ur plane in the OCEAN.
It isn’t related to AF447 in any way!
Can't you really fly without the instruments nowadays? What has happened to humanity...
This flight occured 23 years ago and the cockpit was filling with smoke. I don't believe this crash really says anything about modern humanity
@@codfishbricker anyway, how, as a pilot, can you depend so strongly on the instruments. Weren't they taught how to fly VFR? Really?
@@sergiuszwinogrodzki6569 have you watched the video? It was nighttime, there was smoke in the cabin and they had no intruments, how should they be able to do anything? And what does it have to do with humanity? Humans 60 years ago wouldnt have landed it either
@@sergiuszwinogrodzki6569 seriously, they were flying over water in the middle of the night. Try driving a car while your windshield is black
@@spongebubatz Okay, but from what you're saying flying VFR is forbidden in such conditions. They were flying VFR, possible pilot deviation.
Hey pilots.....fly better.
Are you serious? What should they’ve done according to you?
Trash comment from trash person
@@spongebubatz another disgusting troll
Please, please be joking. It's 2 years now, you've changed right?