I appreciate your refusal to use double-speak in your content. Calling something “grape” or “unalive” is sanitizing the horror of the real thing that happened.
Not according to the leftists in this country... Nope, it has been and will always be somebody else's fault for the decisions that they make on their own... There will always be a reason there will always be an excuse.... And there will always be corrupt people in the media giving credibility to people like this
I’ll never forget when R. Kelly confronted Dave Chappelle at an airport about his “Piss on You” parody video. R. Kelly yelled at him “How could you make a video about peeing on girls!?” Dave responded “Man, how can YOU make a video about peeing on girls?”
The interview with the predator is very interesting. It’s rare that you hear someone like that speak so candidly and apparently honestly about their thought process. Obviously he’s awful, but his insight is fascinating.
He didn't say anything new though. This is a well-known playbook. At least I've known it. They look for fatherless homes, single moms, who are overwhelmed, financially unstable, lonely, isolated kids, possibly bullied or ostracized. They groom the children and the parent(s). They use their authority - religious figure, coach, teacher, "pillar of the community" to gain trust, stock up on "fun" stuff at home - snacks, toys, videogames (even porn for teen boys), drugs, beer, booze, depending on age group and sex they are grooming. They praise, compliment, help, make the child/family make them feel helped, special. All of that as a child or a parent would make me suspicious asf. I do not trust people. I'm not your friend. Takes me a long time of observation to even socialize or chat with you, but their way more trusting people than me out there. Our mom warned us constantly about predators when we were kids. Parents really need to know these things and constantly warm there children and never allow them alone with adults, even family members.
To me this clip (I’ve seen before on grooming ) is A gem 💎 for forensic science even if his motivation for describing grooming was nefarious and as a victim of such practices it’s healing to me to realize I’m not crazy . People like this really do exist !!!
dreading, I am extremely happy you and your brother are talking about R. Kelly. being a black woman, people in my community still listen to him, and do not care that he hurt all of those young girls, or that he is singing about those girls, and NOT grown women. it makes me sick! again, thank you for covering this disgusting man and his actions.
@@Chuck_ELwhy did you bring up Michael Jackson? Are you confused this is about R Kelly? That whataboutism is pretty pathetic…. Almost as if MJ rents a lot of free space in your mind that you will bring him up unprovoked…. Weird for no reason.
Some other channels are using real narrators but blatantly reading from articles or other places and not citing any sources, either. True Crime got big enough for all the grifters to make money while pretending they care about anyone (they don't)
Finally a TH-camr who doesn't care about the algorithm but wants to tell the story properly by not reducing what the victims went through!!!! ❤❤❤❤❤ Thankyou
@erikhesjedal3569 he literally said at the beginning of the video that he's not using substitute words like those because it downplays what the victims went through
I don’t live under a rock so I knew what R. Kelly had been accused of and what he’s been convicted of but this is giving so much more detail and insight to the story. Dreading could 100% be making Netflix documentaries. Heading over to Patreon now to see if part 2 is up! Thanks for your hard work, I’m sorry that your internet coverage is so bad. I’ll light a candle that you all get fiber soon ;)
I was abused by a cousin who wasn't related to me as a child. I knew it was wrong. I never did it to anyone else. Everyone knows the difference between right and wrong. It's written on our hearts.
Thank you thank you for being so gentle about this case. This one hits home for me: I was born and raised in South Chicago--not Hyde Park where he's from, but closer to Roseland/West Pullman. EVERYONE knew. The hood knew and MANY of us (mainly women) complained and called the schools he had his men hunting at and no one did anything because they often picked the girls up as soon as their feet stepped off of school property. So the school would shake their heads and say "not on our property." Then he threw money at these families--poor people having never even left Illinois in their lives were now getting 1st class plane tickets and luxury hotels to places like Hawaii. Just to sell their daughters. Horrible. He would hang out in parks and malls, just on the prowl, looking for souls to steal. He outed himselves in interviews ("how old is 15?"), then throw money around. We felt like NO ONE cared about our little girls becasue they were poor and Black. And he taunted us after he was found not guilty...after the case was thrown out. Letting us know: Yeah, I'm evil and I got away with it. I also remember a small group of my coworkers gushing about seeing "the video." One woman remarked that she "was looking for him" after she saw...what he did to that poor girl. The men saying that she was old enough to know better...calling her fast and saying she had textbook daddy issues. Just trash behavior. I really wanted him to get life in prison. And at the same time, I want him to live forever.
I still can't believe there were people who wanted to watch the video voluntarily. I hope he goes to prison for the rest of his life, the dirty scumbag.
The last part of what you wrote is the unspoken part among many of my fellow men. Personally I was raised properly by a woman who taught me about consent and the age of it, not to mention the importance of knowing what predatory behavior is in various forms. Unfortunately many of our peers weren’t taught the same and therefore developed a warped sense of sexuality, sex, consent, and all that comes with it.
Crazy that there were enough parents who would sell their kids to him. If there hadn't been then he would not have been able to do so much harm so easily.
So happy to see yall going after R.Kelly and soon P. Diddy. It’s so important to expose predators who take advantage of members of their OWN community only to turn around and use that same identity they share with their community to shield themselves from criticisms of their own predation! Thank you 🙏🏽 so much Edit:IDENTITY SHIELDING, to elaborate; is when the accused claims the alleged crimes they’ve done are only being brought up now because of the accused being apart of one or more underprivileged groups which would be ironic and especially here as the victims are also apart of these one or more underprivileged groups (not to say members of a shared identity group cannot internalize and perpetuate violence amongst each other ,hence; the necessity of the term “Identity shielding”) as claiming as much mainly serves for the accused to be protected by their community blinding them from identifying how themselves and actual predators are contributing to the cycle of predation amongst underprivileged people.
Well stated. There had to be so many people that knew the things this Pos was doing. And they mostly appear to have done NOTHING. Shame on all of them.
R Kelly's story about Lulu reminds me eerily of how in _Lolita_ the death of Humbert's "first love" when they were young "caused" him to be obsessed with little girls afterwards.
I'm waiting for dreading to make a documentary on Susan Smith next month. Her parole is next month. I hope Susan doesn't get out of prison for the sake of her late sons.
Kelly doing interviews was like watching a 13-year-old kid doing his best impression of an adult doing an interview. He claims he'd been wanting to tell his side of the story and had to fight his lawyers to be able to do that interview, but whenever asked a tough question he couldn't answer because of his lawyers or, he signed legal papers.
He really did seem very immature, espcially during his tantrums in the interviews. I guarantee, he goes after teenagers because he doesn’t have the emotional range or regulation to manage a grown woman. It’s disgraceful the way authorities ignored the cries for help.
Make sure you guys take a well-deserved break if you need it after this week. Don’t burn yourself out, these videos are very appreciated but your mental health matters too
I don’t know if I’m misremembering something but I do remember reading an archive of a magazine remembering Aaliyah after her death where puffy (p. Diddy) expressed how it was such a shame her image was tainted by R.Kelly and how terribly she was treated/ blackballed by industry because of it…only for he himself to also be a predator after helping her secure producers & features on her projects after Kelly🤨. Unfortunately she was surrounded by wolves! Edit: Diddy phrased it vaguely as a way to neither confirm nor deny while still going on to work with Kelly on his single with bigge into the late 90’s.
This guy is not a good person. It’s shocking that it took so long for him to finally be stopped. Murica can be a very filthy place. I hope that all the people he and his machine abused, are finding peace in their lives. ❤ RIP to all the ones no longer with us. ❤ So happy I had a normal childhood with normal parents. Thank you for your work.
Back then, whether we like it or not, marrying a teenager was fairly normal, especially in the South. It is politically incorrect now. Not supporting, just observation.
I have the deepest respect for you using the actual words that people went through. I hate when people's horrible experiences are used for entertainment but sanitized for profit. Thank you for being an advocate for these victims.
I'm a simple man. I'm happy to see Dreading return to the type of high profile cases that put this channel on the map. Looking forward to that Diddy video. Also, I'm hoping that Dreading is working on a video on Danny Masterson.
I'll bet the "pied piper" moniker was an inside joke by someone close to him that Robert didn't get, but thought it was cool or was convinced it was about his usage of flutes, and adopted it.
So much respect for not censoring every other word in this video! I definitely think that TH-cam has gone too far in regards to censorship and algorithm rules, and agree with you that it cheapens the subject matter.
Thank you for not censoring the video. And thank you for bringing such cases to light, and doing victims some justice. Thank you for Halloweek. Thank you for being here for us
This channel is truly excellent. It's a great example of how TH-cam can be used for higher quality coverage of issues than is seen in the corporate establishment media.
As a victim, your coverage of these types of crimes is incredibly validating. Something people assume weget these days, but, is still lacking. Here we are, all these years later, and the truth has still been hidden. Not for lack of people speaking up, but for people who want to preserve the status quo. Your channel is my favorite, and I know i can't be the only one.
Are you a victim of this monster? If so I hope you heal heartlessly!! No matter who it was, I pray you heal and go on to be better than he could ever imagine!!🤍💯
@mariafrmdaBX No. Not him , but others who have had the actual Gual to contact me. After all these years. Primarily I believe it's because of me having a stroke. They hoped my memory was wrecked I only have issues with short term memory loss.
Knowing his backstory makes it so much worse. The cycle of abuse is brutal, and this is a great example of why it's so important to make sure everyone has access to mental health resources. Way too many stories of people who abuse kids begin with them being abused as a kid. If you have children, please learn how to recognize the signs that someone's harming your child, and put them in therapy as soon as you notice them so they don't do those same heinous things.
Unfortunately, its the kids who have issues at home that are more at risk of being S.A. And most often it's either a family member or someone close to the family who S.A. the child. If the parents care enough about the child to get them therapy, then they're probably vigilant and involved in their kids lives and thus their child is less likely to be abused. Though even then, there can stilll be danger. My best friend's daughter was molested by her grandfather from a young age until she was 12 or 13 but my best friend didn't find out until her daughter was in her early 20s. The grandfather was caught molesting her daughter's 8 year old step sister. That's when the daughter finally told what happened to her. Then it came out that the grandfather had also molested his own daughter when she was a girl. 3 generations! He ended up going to jail. My best friend is a great mum and very protective of her kids, she felt so guilty that she had trusted her partner's father (the grandfather) to babysit her daughter.
That’s not necessarily true, and doesn’t always correlate. Most victims of child sexual abuse are female, yet the vast majority of predators and abusers are male.
@@legoqueen2445what a tragic story. Why did the mother allow her daughter to be in her father’s care, if she was abused as a child. If the grandmother was unable to provide a safe home for her own daughter, how could she provide one for her granddaughter.
@jaijai5250 it's a bit complicated. So the grandfather had his wife and two sons originally with his wife. The girl who was the first one to be molested was actually a nice who came to live with the family and was raised like a daughter. (I don't know what happens to her parents). She never told anyone she was being molested by her dad/uncle (eventual grandfather to my beasties daughter). The wife and the man divorced. It's not clear if the wife had any knowledge of the S.A. One of the man's sons, let's call him Jack, got together with my bestie. Even that is suspect. She was 16 and he was 24 when they got together and she became pregnant quite quickly, she had 3 kids to Jack, the youngest was her daughter. Jack didn't have a good relationship with his mum but was close to his dad (now the Grandfather) so the Grandfather would babysit their kids. Jack himself was abusive and controlling, he would beat my bestie. It took her a long time but after 12 years, she finally left Jack. But he turned her kids against her so she was only able to get shared custody of her daughter. Jack eventually remarried, his new wife had a young daughter. The new wife found the grandfather molesting her daughter. When my bestie found out, she asked her daughter if anything had happened to her, that's when it came out that the Grandfather had done the same to her. Then when Jack's sister (cousin) was contacted and asked if she too had been molested, that's when she finally spoke about what happened to her. It's tragic. But my friend's daughter and Jack's sister all testified against the Grandfather and he went to jail. But it gets worse. The new wife found Jack also molesting her daughter, like father like son, so he has gone to jail too. The fact that he had seduced my bestie when she was 16 and he was 24 already shows he was a predator, unfortunately the 'adults' in my besties lives were useless and did nothing to protect or support her when she ended up with him.
12:51 i was groomed for six years by an older man and it's so terrifying seeing someone recall the exact beats of what happened, and in the context of what they were planning in the long run.
So was my son. He was groomed by a Catholic priest and listening to jack ryan talk about his M.O. this priest did EXACTLY the same thing! I caught him out before he physically assaulted my son but the Catholic Church made it impossible to remove him from his position as a school councillor so he could go on to molest other children 😡 😢
Three R.Kelly stories from living in Chicago, I have a few more but these are the most interesting. (1) My aunt started rapping at 15 and performed at clubs around the Southside. At one show, R.Kelly was there. When she got off stage he invited her to the back and immediately asked her to the back. When she got back there he asked her to party with him, she said she was 15 but he was unbothered. (2) Now to the more crazy story. During college my girlfriend and our friends (all women) heard about a big party. They went out to a mansion in the burbs. In front of it were women, dressed to the nines, and busses with blacked out windows. The women were asked to line up and a man walked by and said "you, you, not you, not you, you", etc. They all were chosen and got onto the bus. It drove in circles for about an hour until it got to an even larger mansion, where they were asked to give their phones, but one of them hid their's. When they entered there was a club on the first floor. Onto the stage comes R. Kelly and women just start rushing him, he is wearing a crown and cape. Sufficiently put off, they snuck around the house where he had paintings of himself on the walls. The only pictures they pulled off were from sneaking outside. (3) I have a close friend that I have known since elementary school who has become an actor. He was the star of a show that lasted one season on BET and has had small roles in big TV shows and big roles in small movies. Shortly before the doc on R. Kelly started production, he met R. Kelly's manager. They hit it off and he was invited to one of R. Kelly's homes. My friend is one of the most engaging and charismatic people alive, so he and R. Kelly hit it off. He was invited back and this time he was asked to bring a camera (he also writes and makes short films). R. Kelly decided to sit at the piano and sing to him, as his elderly aunt sat beside him. Between songs he told the story of his sexual abuse and vociferously defended himself from the then piling accusations. My friend has never done anything with the footage.
Thank you for covering this. It’s seriously time predators aren’t able to hide behind celebrity anymore. I know this only touches the surface, but it’s a start.
Thank you for covering this. Although he had a terrible childhood only a percentage can be contributed to how his outcome turned out. He chose to VOLUNTARILY make horrendous and poor decisions.
@12:20 You said "Jack Ryan" here and as a movie fan I had to look this up. This creep is actually named Jack Reynolds. Don't lump our beloved CIA Analyst into this! lol
@@Vi_Vi_1 I never liked R.Kelly. When he first hit the national scene in '92, I remember him as a Blatant Aaron Hall knockoff. Regarding the Horrible things and Chester M*lesting, I was hearing rumors throughout HS in 1998-2000, that he cruised Chicago Malls and McDonalds for young teen girls. In 1999, my classmates were telling me this all the time. "Let's Go to the Mall Baby. I'll pick you up on your way out". The SIGNS were there people.
Everytime Robert opens his mouth he proves how slow he truly is !! The interview that he does with Toure and is asked “Do you like teenage girls”?!? Robert asks “When you say teenage how old are we talking about”?!? Toure said “Girls who are teenagers”! Robert says “Well I have friends who are girls and are 19”!!! Brooooo that interview alone showed how dumb he was and guilty BUT yet he doesn’t get arrested until 2019 !!!
I saw the first video in his trial personally, as a child myself, in my schools library because a high schooler knew how to bypass the firewalls. its burned into my memory, and my heart breaks EACH time he denied it knowing his victim was the niece of another singer he worked with. i pray each of his victims are healing, and his accomplices receive their due. sadly and ultimately, no one can protect children. they do not belong here.
@@Tornado1994 I believe they’re referring to the interview Prince Andrew gave after being photographed with Epstein after his first arrest. It’s infamous because Andrew’s response is absolutely horrible in it.
I was having a shit week, but all these new uploads, are making it so much more bearable. Thank you! Crossing my fingers for your take on the Sarah Boone trial!
He and his crew posting up in "the nicest booth in McDonald's" so he could play pimp lord over impressionable teenage girls sounds so laughably pathetic. It hurts my brain to know how well it worked for him.
I'm glad you're covering this, and in this way. I've seen a lot of content that refers to R. Kelly and what he's done but always in a way that assumes that the viewer already knows a lot about who he is and what he did. So much stuff about celebrities is boring, not because they're uninteresting people, but because content about them is made for an audience that's already informed and invested.
I remember seeing Bet constantly laughing up his abuse for decades It's why I always say they can miss me on the pathetic attempts to "care " all of a sudden
"My mind's telling me no, but my body's telling me yes..." Bump n Grind just hits different these days. Hits like a ton of piss covered bricks to the predators (insert R. Kelly here) face.
@@Veronica_1683 NO! For anyone who was an adult at the time, you don’t get to look back and say that now. You knew that a 14 year old girl was singing about a sexual relationship and enjoyed the music anyway. (I’m not necessarily speaking about you specifically if you’re not old enough to have been an adult then)
@@Watermelon_Man dude, I was a teenager and all the adults criticized Aaliyah and the kids didn't cause R Kelly "made hits" You see the op was a kid at the time I only saw teenagers acknowledging how sick R.Kelly was and is
still the best channel for this type of stuff. you guys do so much good work to add valuable context to the story without becoming apologists. thank you for not censoring yourselves for the sake of an algorithm. its very respectful to the real victims. thank you for all your hard work!
it's so refreshing to hear language being used the way it's meant to and not watered down to be "consumable" to an audience, or make profit around the youtube algorithm. Thank you for keeping your words uncensored. it means a lot
its so tragic, its been known for decades.Still celebrities kept on working with him (lady gaga not so long ago) and all the people that worked for him and helped him
This is what we mean when we say "believe women". It's not an empty slogan, it's the right thing to do. If you tell someone you got stolen from, everyone believes you. If you say you saw a murder, it'll be investigated. But the moment a woman says she's been raped, people will deny, discredit and ultimately bend reality to make the victim feel guilty.
@@1GreatPlan do you listen to yourself? Women reporting SA rarely get anything in return other than shame from morons like you, and maybe a small settlement. The idea that all these women looking for a payday by throwing out all these false allegations, isn't reality.
2:37 there was an entire book written in response to Bill Cosby’s controversial pound cake speech, that was way more controversial than him calling out other comedians for swearing.
It’s disgusting how so many people protected these predators. I was groomed at 15 by a 30 year old man and I’m 50 now. I’m still in counseling. My heart breaks for every child, woman and man who has been sexually abused 😪
I’ve been subbed since the beginning and your coverage of these cases has consistently been some of the best and most in depth that I’ve seen while maintaining the respect necessary to talk about them.
AND, a lot of times in the ⚫️community, they blame the victims and shame them. Calling them “fast” and that “they knew what they were doing” I remember they blamed Aaliyah for everything that happened to her and they still do till this day.
And that’s exactly why his victims didn’t come forward sooner !! If people blamed Aaliyah and she was famous why wouldn’t they also blame these young girls who were obviously struggling in their home lives ?!?? That’s why he got away with it for over 30 years!!! Not sure if you watched Surviving R.Kelly but there are these 2 blonde hair blue eyed white women(they’re sisters) and they worked with him for years and they said “He never tried anything with us” I started screaming at the tv saying “Because y’all aren’t his type of victims,he targets young black girls because unfortunately people are more likely to believe a white girl than a black or brown girl”! Imagine if he chose white teenage girls and did these things,he would’ve been put under the jail 30 years ago ! Disgusting !
@@Veronica_1683 As it well known, Aaliyah was tragically killed in a Plane Crash in the Bahamas on Saturday August 25,2001 at the age of 22. At the time, her Ordeal with R.Kelly had been 7-8 years prior and her Public career had only been 7 years old. She had ALREADY disassociated herself from him in 1996 when she released the Sophomore LP "One in a Million". She simply didn't live long enough to come to terms with how he groomed her.
@@Tornado1994 Dame Dash was asked recently what Aaliyah told him about her “relationship” with R.Kelly and she said “He’s a bad man and I don’t want to talk about him or hear his name ever again”! So Dame Dash never brought it up again ! Also when Jay Z decided to go on tour with R.Kelly in 2004 (I believe) Dame said to Jay Z “You know he ra*ed my girlfriend why would you work with him”?!? And that’s why Dame Dash and Jay Z “parted ways”! Also who else was best friends with R.Kelly ?!?? DIDDY !!!
Internet Archive needs more recognition. Literally can read yourself into those famous rabbit holes some find themselves scrolling through absolute bullshit content. ❤ learned one
I actually have color synesthesia. I didn't even know I was different until about 10 years ago. I thought everyone had a weird color projection for days, numbers, and especially music. Each different note and different instruments have their own unique color, so memorizing things, especially music for me, is super easy. I remember asking my mom what color a specific day was for her, and she was like, ??huh??? So, then, I thought I was the only one who had a weird brain, lol. But, yeah, certain music is more intense than a psych trip, for me. It's bizarre. Thank you for best week of new content, Dreading Bros ❤❤❤
@@cdes1776 I've been obsessed with finding others who have the same thing ever since I learned about it, lol. The really interesting people are the sound or taste people. So, for me, the word Monday is true red with deep burgundy on the edges, and Tuesday is kelly green. But for a sound person, they'll hear maybe a kazoo whistle when they think of Monday, and a low piano note for Tuesday. For a taste person, Monday could be chocolate, and Tuesday could be mangos. I believe the most common explanation is that it's caused by a miswiring of the brain. I also have diagnosed ADHD, another type of brain miswiring, so I guess it makes sense in a way, lol. If I remember correctly, I believe I have "grapheme-color synesthesia," if you want to research further ❤😊
@@emo_penguin420that is very interesting, thanks for explaining. My friend associates different numbers with colours but that is all, it’s not with letters etc. When he told me I was so fascinated and asked a million questions about it.
Isn’t it fun finding others like you? I am like you and the others you describe. It’s a blessing. I’m convinced that it’s not a “mis-wiring”, but a phase in human evolution.
Knowledge is power. Explaining that child abuse results in potentially becoming a perpetrator is not excusing the perpetrator but rather educating someone about the outcome of childhood abuse. NO ONE IS EXCUSING THE ABUSER.
Very hard to watch the predator be interviewed and being very honest about how he sought out certain children. Important information, but especially if u ever dealt with it in your youth…. Really puts certain things into perspective, feel sick to my stomach.
40:55 Found a mistake here. The article absolutely does call Kelly and Aaliyah's marriage illegal. Says the details of their illegal marriage was sketchy, not that the marriage itself was simply sketchy. Rest of the video was great though. Keep up the good work.
I worked in Chicago during the height of R.Kelly's popularity. At my job site, there were numerous fans of his that I worked with and around. When that tape of him surfaced in 2001. Their initial reaction were- 50% thought it was fake. 40% thought it was real. The girl in the video seemed too young but they assumed she just turned 18. Basically, barely legal. 10% didn't really care and would continue listening to his music. I will say this. If there was an Olympic event for mental gymnastics... R.Kelly's fandom would have taken the gold medal hands down.
I’ve seen some comment sections they range from “he didn’t do it eh was framed” to “I didn’t see it so it’s sketchy” to “he did terrible things and deserves to be in jail but I still like his music”
This episode is so important for younger people especially. Power itself does not corrupt, it reveals. The corrupt almost always have delusional believers on their side. Predators look fo vulnerable people to exploit.
I don’t understand how it’s possible for developing children who were always shy, introverted, kept to themselves, insecure, that once finally part of a group or having acquired friends, suddenly become controlling, aggressive and domineering…. Those traits usually come from those who’ve been manifesting and practicing them for a while before. I was never totally far on the side of timidity growing up, but I certainly had a potent level of insecurity and self doubt. Growing up with 6 brothers, being the youngest at the time, and a girl, made me experience an upbringing environment that left me often excluded, rejected, and eventually believing that was to be my lot in life: so much so that when I did end up being accepted into various social circles during my teens, even though my self confidence and boisterousness did grow, I still remained in a mindset of surprise, courtesy, and contented gratitude. I still to this day am thankful when I’m included, or socially invited. In any degree or level. I didn’t used to have it, so now that I do, I’m finally happy and grateful….,it makes no sense to me when people do the opposite……. Had they just been shitty people the whole time? Hidden under their reticent guise?
I think sometimes people with control, power, abuser tendencies are aware of then from a young age but know they are bad and hide it as best as they can. It's harder to hide it as you get older and more opportunity to utilise it. Another one is I think weak and shy people when young can sometimes reach a point where they're like f this I deserve the power. And some get a little taste and it changes who they are I don't think every one who ends up doing these sort of things start that way, but some definitely do.
Imagine, if Aaliyah had survived the crash, went on with her career, and she heard he had been arrested and was called to testify against Robert, Ooooooh! Baby! Baby! Baby! She would’ve buried his ass☕️ R.I.P Queen 👑
I appreciate your refusal to use double-speak in your content. Calling something “grape” or “unalive” is sanitizing the horror of the real thing that happened.
Completely agree
I hate when people say "unalive" - sounds so dumb
They do that to avoid de-monetization
Absolutely. There's practically a sense of disrespect I feel when people talk censored like that. It seems so insincere
It's also hilariously ironic consider the ads I'VE gotten.
He's not responsible for what happened to him as a child, but he is responsible for what happens as an adult.
Hear hear!
@@johnnywalker4857 💯
Say it louder for the people in the back!!
Also can we corroborate what happened to Lulu? Were there really other kids there?
Not according to the leftists in this country... Nope, it has been and will always be somebody else's fault for the decisions that they make on their own... There will always be a reason there will always be an excuse.... And there will always be corrupt people in the media giving credibility to people like this
Aaliyah’s family failed her … she was sold to him
Her parents should have been made to face criminal charges.
@ literally… so sickening.
Exactly!!
@@PinkyakaAyannaj HER Mother. She LET R.Kelly Groom Aaliyah.
So sad, she was incredibly talented.
I’ll never forget when R. Kelly confronted Dave Chappelle at an airport about his “Piss on You” parody video. R. Kelly yelled at him “How could you make a video about peeing on girls!?” Dave responded “Man, how can YOU make a video about peeing on girls?”
What?! I need to see this interaction. Lol
@@ScaryPoppinsme too😅
im laughing that you all actually believe that happened lol
it was a skit folks lol
@ScaryPoppins You'll need an AI to make it because that obviously never happened.
My guy, you are destroying my productivity with these daily uploads. I love you.
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Right! Now everytime I have a break I find myself watching these lol
Conversely, my productivity has increased! But I can listen while I work lol
these are so good to listen to while you work tho!
The interview with the predator is very interesting. It’s rare that you hear someone like that speak so candidly and apparently honestly about their thought process. Obviously he’s awful, but his insight is fascinating.
Yeah that interview was very eye opening and insightful into how those types of people think. What a monster
Hes a narcissist
He didn't say anything new though. This is a well-known playbook. At least I've known it. They look for fatherless homes, single moms, who are overwhelmed, financially unstable, lonely, isolated kids, possibly bullied or ostracized. They groom the children and the parent(s). They use their authority - religious figure, coach, teacher, "pillar of the community" to gain trust, stock up on "fun" stuff at home - snacks, toys, videogames (even porn for teen boys), drugs, beer, booze, depending on age group and sex they are grooming. They praise, compliment, help, make the child/family make them feel helped, special.
All of that as a child or a parent would make me suspicious asf. I do not trust people. I'm not your friend. Takes me a long time of observation to even socialize or chat with you, but their way more trusting people than me out there. Our mom warned us constantly about predators when we were kids. Parents really need to know these things and constantly warm there children and never allow them alone with adults, even family members.
Watch: pedophilia documentary by dissecting darkness. Very candid, horrific. It's the same tone as that snippet.
To me this clip (I’ve seen before on grooming ) is A gem 💎 for forensic science even if his motivation for describing grooming was nefarious and as a victim of such practices it’s healing to me to realize I’m not crazy . People like this really do exist !!!
dreading, I am extremely happy you and your brother are talking about R. Kelly. being a black woman, people in my community still listen to him, and do not care that he hurt all of those young girls, or that he is singing about those girls, and NOT grown women. it makes me sick! again, thank you for covering this disgusting man and his actions.
While accusing Michael Jackson of being a predator despite he isn't
@@Chuck_ELHe isn’t??
His musics still good tho.
@@tracievendetta1908nope
@@Chuck_ELwhy did you bring up Michael Jackson? Are you confused this is about R Kelly? That whataboutism is pretty pathetic…. Almost as if MJ rents a lot of free space in your mind that you will bring him up unprovoked…. Weird for no reason.
I love how you guys actually care about the videos you make instead of most of the AI slop many channels churn out. Thanks guys
Some other channels are using real narrators but blatantly reading from articles or other places and not citing any sources, either. True Crime got big enough for all the grifters to make money while pretending they care about anyone (they don't)
Perfectly put.
Totally agree.
Those ai videos have the best subtitles, words that have nothing to do with the narration or story and explain gibberish. Oh yes, super smart ai.
@@breakit46 I always LMAO when I hear things like "So he called nine hundred and eleven."
Thank you for covering this monster. RIP Aaliyah 💕🕊️
🙏🏻🙌🏻💔❤️🩹🕊️💐
Yes RIP Aaliyah!!
I was a huge fan of her as a child. I was so sad when she died (still a big fan). 😭 I still have my childhood poster of her. 😅
Yet you bitches are silent when Simone Biles testified against Larry Nassar fake assholes.
@@homelesshannah50Who are you talking to? It doesn’t matter WHAT skin tone someone is, WRONG IS WRONG!
Finally a TH-camr who doesn't care about the algorithm but wants to tell the story properly by not reducing what the victims went through!!!! ❤❤❤❤❤ Thankyou
Amen 🙏
@erikhesjedal3569 he literally said at the beginning of the video that he's not using substitute words like those because it downplays what the victims went through
@@sleepichu9927 im sorry i just deleted my answer.
What a brilliant intro! "Power doesn't corrupt, it simply reveals...".
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I don’t live under a rock so I knew what R. Kelly had been accused of and what he’s been convicted of but this is giving so much more detail and insight to the story. Dreading could 100% be making Netflix documentaries.
Heading over to Patreon now to see if part 2 is up!
Thanks for your hard work, I’m sorry that your internet coverage is so bad. I’ll light a candle that you all get fiber soon ;)
They would need to edit out 70% of the content and summarize the footage
Such a glazer. 😂😂😂
@@Idolikethis this has been a very annoying trend on this channel and many others lately. Its getting weird lol
@@EnigmaticAnamolyhe got 15 comments just hating on viewers like holy shit man
@@Idolikethis😂😂 I had to look that term up. 👍
Listening to that man discuss how he chose his victims made me sick to my stomach.
Seconded
Omg same I couldn’t stop shaking my head
I was abused by a cousin who wasn't related to me as a child. I knew it was wrong. I never did it to anyone else. Everyone knows the difference between right and wrong. It's written on our hearts.
Thank you thank you for being so gentle about this case. This one hits home for me: I was born and raised in South Chicago--not Hyde Park where he's from, but closer to Roseland/West Pullman. EVERYONE knew. The hood knew and MANY of us (mainly women) complained and called the schools he had his men hunting at and no one did anything because they often picked the girls up as soon as their feet stepped off of school property. So the school would shake their heads and say "not on our property." Then he threw money at these families--poor people having never even left Illinois in their lives were now getting 1st class plane tickets and luxury hotels to places like Hawaii. Just to sell their daughters. Horrible. He would hang out in parks and malls, just on the prowl, looking for souls to steal. He outed himselves in interviews ("how old is 15?"), then throw money around.
We felt like NO ONE cared about our little girls becasue they were poor and Black. And he taunted us after he was found not guilty...after the case was thrown out. Letting us know: Yeah, I'm evil and I got away with it.
I also remember a small group of my coworkers gushing about seeing "the video." One woman remarked that she "was looking for him" after she saw...what he did to that poor girl. The men saying that she was old enough to know better...calling her fast and saying she had textbook daddy issues. Just trash behavior. I really wanted him to get life in prison. And at the same time, I want him to live forever.
😢🙏🏻💔
Yup I'm also from Chicago. It was an open secret
I still can't believe there were people who wanted to watch the video voluntarily. I hope he goes to prison for the rest of his life, the dirty scumbag.
The last part of what you wrote is the unspoken part among many of my fellow men. Personally I was raised properly by a woman who taught me about consent and the age of it, not to mention the importance of knowing what predatory behavior is in various forms. Unfortunately many of our peers weren’t taught the same and therefore developed a warped sense of sexuality, sex, consent, and all that comes with it.
Crazy that there were enough parents who would sell their kids to him. If there hadn't been then he would not have been able to do so much harm so easily.
I wish arrogance wasnt so celebrated in our culture
So true! So disgusting too!!
Imagine looking up to these guys as a youth, and years later looking down to the same ones
I love my country but that's the problem with our culture.
In every culture they do this stop making it a black thing …it isn’t
So happy to see yall going after R.Kelly and soon P. Diddy. It’s so important to expose predators who take advantage of members of their OWN community only to turn around and use that same identity they share with their community to shield themselves from criticisms of their own predation! Thank you 🙏🏽 so much
Edit:IDENTITY SHIELDING, to elaborate; is when the accused claims the alleged crimes they’ve done are only being brought up now because of the accused being apart of one or more underprivileged groups which would be ironic and especially here as the victims are also apart of these one or more underprivileged groups (not to say members of a shared identity group cannot internalize and perpetuate violence amongst each other ,hence; the necessity of the term “Identity shielding”) as claiming as much mainly serves for the accused to be protected by their community blinding them from identifying how themselves and actual predators are contributing to the cycle of predation amongst underprivileged people.
Well said. 👏
I'll be glad when all gets exposed
We’re all members of the same community…just sayin’
Well stated. There had to be so many people that knew the things this Pos was doing. And they mostly appear to have done NOTHING. Shame on all of them.
You just described Trump! We're doomed.
R Kelly's story about Lulu reminds me eerily of how in _Lolita_ the death of Humbert's "first love" when they were young "caused" him to be obsessed with little girls afterwards.
Crazy Movie!
i was thinking the exact same thing too LOL
Even more tragic how he was able to run off with his step daughter
Oh man you guys are spoiling us. Thanks for the power week. Getting in early as a v12’er. At v38 we’ll look back on this as the early times.
Right, feels more like Christmas than Halloween
I was thinking the same thing!!! So many videos!!!
I'm waiting for dreading to make a documentary on Susan Smith next month.
Her parole is next month. I hope Susan doesn't get out of prison for the sake of her late sons.
Weird dick measuring fam. Go find a more meaningful hobby besides being terminally online.
Wtf are you talking about
Everyone knew about R Kelly and yet did nothing for many many years. Gross negligence.
True!! Disgusting all the more!!
"If thought the father was a threat, I would not approach the child." This is why strong fathers are important.
Exactly. The danger has to be strong and active in their child’s life. Just having a father in the home isn’t enough.
Say it louder for the people in the back!
This is powerful word for mother and father figure.
@@jaijai5250nail it
Kelly doing interviews was like watching a 13-year-old kid doing his best impression of an adult doing an interview. He claims he'd been wanting to tell his side of the story and had to fight his lawyers to be able to do that interview, but whenever asked a tough question he couldn't answer because of his lawyers or, he signed legal papers.
He really did seem very immature, espcially during his tantrums in the interviews. I guarantee, he goes after teenagers because he doesn’t have the emotional range or regulation to manage a grown woman. It’s disgraceful the way authorities ignored the cries for help.
Make sure you guys take a well-deserved break if you need it after this week. Don’t burn yourself out, these videos are very appreciated but your mental health matters too
Especially when dealing with these topics. Speaking from personal experiences, it can get real dark, real fast if you’re not vigilant 😢
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Always playing the victim...Kelly is a MONSTER
You can be both , one doesn't discount the other but it does not excuse his adult choices
As someone who was groomed and molested as a young teen, listening to that paedophile was chilling in it's emotionless explanation.
me too!!! My body is reacting just from hearing the word of the heinous man!!
it’s also important to note that he tried to blame his brother and say it was him in the tape with the 14 year old girl.
Yep, i remember that…disgusting POS
I don’t know if I’m misremembering something but I do remember reading an archive of a magazine remembering Aaliyah after her death where puffy (p. Diddy) expressed how it was such a shame her image was tainted by R.Kelly and how terribly she was treated/ blackballed by industry because of it…only for he himself to also be a predator after helping her secure producers & features on her projects after Kelly🤨. Unfortunately she was surrounded by wolves!
Edit: Diddy phrased it vaguely as a way to neither confirm nor deny while still going on to work with Kelly on his single with bigge into the late 90’s.
Man, Aaliyah was a real one. I really liked her music. She would have gone so far.
@@blackpajamas6600Absolutely. We were robbed💔
@@spacexghost888 I have no doubt Aaliyah would be Beyonce-big if she hadn't been taken from us so soon.
@@spacexghost888 *_She_* was robbed.
Another example of Diddy hiding in plan sight.
Elvis used to send his people off to pick up young girls the same way! That’s wild
This guy is not a good person. It’s shocking that it took so long for him to finally be stopped. Murica can be a very filthy place.
I hope that all the people he and his machine abused, are finding peace in their lives. ❤ RIP to all the ones no longer with us. ❤
So happy I had a normal childhood with normal parents.
Thank you for your work.
Yup! Priscilla was one of them
Back then, whether we like it or not, marrying a teenager was fairly normal, especially in the South. It is politically incorrect now. Not supporting, just observation.
Yup the jungle room! 😢
Yup! Sick bastard!
I have the deepest respect for you using the actual words that people went through. I hate when people's horrible experiences are used for entertainment but sanitized for profit. Thank you for being an advocate for these victims.
💯 👌🏼. 👊🏼
he's profiting either way, he's getting paid
I'm a simple man. I'm happy to see Dreading return to the type of high profile cases that put this channel on the map. Looking forward to that Diddy video. Also, I'm hoping that Dreading is working on a video on Danny Masterson.
YESSSS IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THE DANNY MASTERSON VIDEO OR A VIDEO ABOUT HIM, ASHTON, AND DIDDY'S "NEW RAT PACK"
New rat pac funny
@@klondikemom3658”sewer rat pac” 😂
and Shelly Miscavige!!
I'll bet the "pied piper" moniker was an inside joke by someone close to him that Robert didn't get, but thought it was cool or was convinced it was about his usage of flutes, and adopted it.
So much respect for not censoring every other word in this video! I definitely think that TH-cam has gone too far in regards to censorship and algorithm rules, and agree with you that it cheapens the subject matter.
"I didn't see anything wrong"
Right, Dave Chappelle made those two songs out of thin air with no basis in reality at all.
Omg I can't unsee the toilet ring.😂
😂😂 yes!!! I will admit Dave’s skit was the first thing I thought about! Thank you Dreading! I feel spoiled 🥰
dave is a genius though
Who said he wasnt? @@manchesterisblue1023
@@manchesterisblue1023used to be, not anymore
thank you for not saying grape and unalive
or "deleted"!
Thank you for not censoring the video. And thank you for bringing such cases to light, and doing victims some justice. Thank you for Halloweek. Thank you for being here for us
Watch parties for CP… god damn I hope those people were put on a list.
They were.
Epstein's list.
And the Diddy party list.
They only get put on flight logs, and payrolls.
@@KaraTheGirliethe official diddy freak-off hall of fame
Me, too.
Another one? And over one hour? Your vids are the ones I look forward to the most. Best true crime channel on YT by a long shot.
This channel is truly excellent. It's a great example of how TH-cam can be used for higher quality coverage of issues than is seen in the corporate establishment media.
As a victim, your coverage of these types of crimes is incredibly validating. Something people assume weget these days, but, is still lacking. Here we are, all these years later, and the truth has still been hidden. Not for lack of people speaking up, but for people who want to preserve the status quo. Your channel is my favorite, and I know i can't be the only one.
Are you a victim of this monster? If so I hope you heal heartlessly!! No matter who it was, I pray you heal and go on to be better than he could ever imagine!!🤍💯
@mariafrmdaBX No. Not him , but others who have had the actual Gual to contact me. After all these years. Primarily I believe it's because of me having a stroke. They hoped my memory was wrecked
I only have issues with short term memory loss.
Knowing his backstory makes it so much worse. The cycle of abuse is brutal, and this is a great example of why it's so important to make sure everyone has access to mental health resources. Way too many stories of people who abuse kids begin with them being abused as a kid. If you have children, please learn how to recognize the signs that someone's harming your child, and put them in therapy as soon as you notice them so they don't do those same heinous things.
Unfortunately, its the kids who have issues at home that are more at risk of being S.A. And most often it's either a family member or someone close to the family who S.A. the child. If the parents care enough about the child to get them therapy, then they're probably vigilant and involved in their kids lives and thus their child is less likely to be abused. Though even then, there can stilll be danger. My best friend's daughter was molested by her grandfather from a young age until she was 12 or 13 but my best friend didn't find out until her daughter was in her early 20s. The grandfather was caught molesting her daughter's 8 year old step sister. That's when the daughter finally told what happened to her. Then it came out that the grandfather had also molested his own daughter when she was a girl. 3 generations! He ended up going to jail. My best friend is a great mum and very protective of her kids, she felt so guilty that she had trusted her partner's father (the grandfather) to babysit her daughter.
That’s not necessarily true, and doesn’t always correlate. Most victims of child sexual abuse are female, yet the vast majority of predators and abusers are male.
@@legoqueen2445what a tragic story. Why did the mother allow her daughter to be in her father’s care, if she was abused as a child. If the grandmother was unable to provide a safe home for her own daughter, how could she provide one for her granddaughter.
@jaijai5250 it's a bit complicated. So the grandfather had his wife and two sons originally with his wife. The girl who was the first one to be molested was actually a nice who came to live with the family and was raised like a daughter. (I don't know what happens to her parents). She never told anyone she was being molested by her dad/uncle (eventual grandfather to my beasties daughter). The wife and the man divorced. It's not clear if the wife had any knowledge of the S.A. One of the man's sons, let's call him Jack, got together with my bestie. Even that is suspect. She was 16 and he was 24 when they got together and she became pregnant quite quickly, she had 3 kids to Jack, the youngest was her daughter. Jack didn't have a good relationship with his mum but was close to his dad (now the Grandfather) so the Grandfather would babysit their kids. Jack himself was abusive and controlling, he would beat my bestie. It took her a long time but after 12 years, she finally left Jack. But he turned her kids against her so she was only able to get shared custody of her daughter. Jack eventually remarried, his new wife had a young daughter. The new wife found the grandfather molesting her daughter. When my bestie found out, she asked her daughter if anything had happened to her, that's when it came out that the Grandfather had done the same to her. Then when Jack's sister (cousin) was contacted and asked if she too had been molested, that's when she finally spoke about what happened to her. It's tragic. But my friend's daughter and Jack's sister all testified against the Grandfather and he went to jail. But it gets worse. The new wife found Jack also molesting her daughter, like father like son, so he has gone to jail too. The fact that he had seduced my bestie when she was 16 and he was 24 already shows he was a predator, unfortunately the 'adults' in my besties lives were useless and did nothing to protect or support her when she ended up with him.
12:51 i was groomed for six years by an older man and it's so terrifying seeing someone recall the exact beats of what happened, and in the context of what they were planning in the long run.
I'm so sorry that happened to you. And yes, it was chilling to listen to him talk about the strategies used against these poor children
I’m so sorry
Lucky basturd
I’m so sorry that happened to you!! May you heal soon and wholly!!🤍🤍
So was my son. He was groomed by a Catholic priest and listening to jack ryan talk about his M.O. this priest did EXACTLY the same thing! I caught him out before he physically assaulted my son but the Catholic Church made it impossible to remove him from his position as a school councillor so he could go on to molest other children 😡 😢
Kells: “I don’t read stories.”
Should’ve been more like, “I can’t read.”
Three R.Kelly stories from living in Chicago, I have a few more but these are the most interesting. (1) My aunt started rapping at 15 and performed at clubs around the Southside. At one show, R.Kelly was there. When she got off stage he invited her to the back and immediately asked her to the back. When she got back there he asked her to party with him, she said she was 15 but he was unbothered.
(2) Now to the more crazy story. During college my girlfriend and our friends (all women) heard about a big party. They went out to a mansion in the burbs. In front of it were women, dressed to the nines, and busses with blacked out windows. The women were asked to line up and a man walked by and said "you, you, not you, not you, you", etc. They all were chosen and got onto the bus. It drove in circles for about an hour until it got to an even larger mansion, where they were asked to give their phones, but one of them hid their's. When they entered there was a club on the first floor. Onto the stage comes R. Kelly and women just start rushing him, he is wearing a crown and cape. Sufficiently put off, they snuck around the house where he had paintings of himself on the walls. The only pictures they pulled off were from sneaking outside.
(3) I have a close friend that I have known since elementary school who has become an actor. He was the star of a show that lasted one season on BET and has had small roles in big TV shows and big roles in small movies. Shortly before the doc on R. Kelly started production, he met R. Kelly's manager. They hit it off and he was invited to one of R. Kelly's homes. My friend is one of the most engaging and charismatic people alive, so he and R. Kelly hit it off. He was invited back and this time he was asked to bring a camera (he also writes and makes short films). R. Kelly decided to sit at the piano and sing to him, as his elderly aunt sat beside him. Between songs he told the story of his sexual abuse and vociferously defended himself from the then piling accusations. My friend has never done anything with the footage.
Thanks for sharing this is very interesting
Another one?! And its R Kelly?! AND its a case video?!?!?
Best true crime channel on youtube. Should have millions of subs.
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Thank you for covering this. It’s seriously time predators aren’t able to hide behind celebrity anymore. I know this only touches the surface, but it’s a start.
Thank you for covering this. Although he had a terrible childhood only a percentage can be contributed to how his outcome turned out. He chose to VOLUNTARILY make horrendous and poor decisions.
@12:20 You said "Jack Ryan" here and as a movie fan I had to look this up. This creep is actually named Jack Reynolds.
Don't lump our beloved CIA Analyst into this! lol
I was confused... but must be patreon
Lol
He's only human, after all.
😂
This is going to be EPIC! Thanks Dreading. Yall keep hitting it out of the park.
Kinda sick of all the celebrities saying we need to listen to them and they always turn out to be perverts and EVIL!!!
It just hit me. The Boondocks had an episode. "The Trial of R. Kelly".
Satire of him getting off on those charges when it was obviously him
My BF and I started watching that show earlier this year, and we were losing it when we got to that episode. It was wild
@@Vi_Vi_1 Huey's Speech. It aged like Fine Wine. Keep in mind, this was made IN 2005.
@@Tornado1994 right, that's what made it so crazy to watch 19 years later--nail on the goddamn head
@@Vi_Vi_1 I never liked R.Kelly. When he first hit the national scene in '92, I remember him as a Blatant Aaron Hall knockoff. Regarding the Horrible things and Chester M*lesting, I was hearing rumors throughout HS in 1998-2000, that he cruised Chicago Malls and McDonalds for young teen girls. In 1999, my classmates were telling me this all the time.
"Let's Go to the Mall Baby. I'll pick you up on your way out". The SIGNS were there people.
Everytime Robert opens his mouth he proves how slow he truly is !! The interview that he does with Toure and is asked “Do you like teenage girls”?!? Robert asks “When you say teenage how old are we talking about”?!? Toure said “Girls who are teenagers”! Robert says “Well I have friends who are girls and are 19”!!! Brooooo that interview alone showed how dumb he was and guilty BUT yet he doesn’t get arrested until 2019 !!!
Yeah he definitely had some intellectual disability
I’m glad to see his “downfall “. He should’ve been taken down years ago! He was always giving creep vibes.
Dear Mr. Dreading… you are TRULY, a brilliant Researcher, and an All-round SUPERSTAR for Truth. Abundant THANKS! 🙏🏻❤️
All the adults that were exposed to R Kelly abusing minors should be charged in that they participated in allowing it. Fn disgusting and evil!!
I saw the first video in his trial personally, as a child myself, in my schools library because a high schooler knew how to bypass the firewalls. its burned into my memory, and my heart breaks EACH time he denied it knowing his victim was the niece of another singer he worked with. i pray each of his victims are healing, and his accomplices receive their due. sadly and ultimately, no one can protect children. they do not belong here.
omg his interview by Gayle King was PURE comedy gold! maybe even greater than the Prince Andrew interview (also hilarious)
It would be hilarious if these clowns hadn't wrecked so many lives. They deserve hell in life and after.
Prince Andrew?
@@Tornado1994
I believe they’re referring to the interview Prince Andrew gave after being photographed with Epstein after his first arrest. It’s infamous because Andrew’s response is absolutely horrible in it.
I was having a shit week, but all these new uploads, are making it so much more bearable. Thank you! Crossing my fingers for your take on the Sarah Boone trial!
He knew full well how it felt to be the victim of sexual abuse, and yet he chose to spread that same trauma to countless women and girls.
'41 seconds ago' is pretty good considering I've been looking for this all day
Tysm dreading what a fun week!!!!!!!!!!!!
He and his crew posting up in "the nicest booth in McDonald's" so he could play pimp lord over impressionable teenage girls sounds so laughably pathetic. It hurts my brain to know how well it worked for him.
I'm glad you're covering this, and in this way. I've seen a lot of content that refers to R. Kelly and what he's done but always in a way that assumes that the viewer already knows a lot about who he is and what he did. So much stuff about celebrities is boring, not because they're uninteresting people, but because content about them is made for an audience that's already informed and invested.
One thing that disgusts me is how the so called interviewers and the audience “laugh off” the obviously inappropriate line of questioning.
I remember seeing Bet constantly laughing up his abuse for decades
It's why I always say they can miss me on the pathetic attempts to "care " all of a sudden
"My mind's telling me no, but my body's telling me yes..." Bump n Grind just hits different these days. Hits like a ton of piss covered bricks to the predators (insert R. Kelly here) face.
And Aaliyah’s “Age ain’t nothin but a number” is sick knowing he wrote that talking about 14 year old Aaliyah !!!
@@Veronica_1683 NO! For anyone who was an adult at the time, you don’t get to look back and say that now. You knew that a 14 year old girl was singing about a sexual relationship and enjoyed the music anyway. (I’m not necessarily speaking about you specifically if you’re not old enough to have been an adult then)
@@Watermelon_Man I was only 11 when that song came out !!!
So true!! Wow I never thought about it like that!!
@@Watermelon_Man dude, I was a teenager and all the adults criticized Aaliyah and the kids didn't cause R Kelly "made hits"
You see the op was a kid at the time
I only saw teenagers acknowledging how sick R.Kelly was and is
still the best channel for this type of stuff. you guys do so much good work to add valuable context to the story without becoming apologists. thank you for not censoring yourselves for the sake of an algorithm. its very respectful to the real victims. thank you for all your hard work!
Dreading, my heart skipped a beat when I saw you on my news feed 🥰 thank you for your hard work!
it's so refreshing to hear language being used the way it's meant to and not watered down to be "consumable" to an audience, or make profit around the youtube algorithm. Thank you for keeping your words uncensored. it means a lot
He really peed on a minor on CAMERA and was just walking around free because he made “Step In The Name of Love”. Just wow.
its so tragic, its been known for decades.Still celebrities kept on working with him (lady gaga not so long ago) and all the people that worked for him and helped him
Oh well. She went to his room and got peed on.
This is what we mean when we say "believe women". It's not an empty slogan, it's the right thing to do. If you tell someone you got stolen from, everyone believes you. If you say you saw a murder, it'll be investigated. But the moment a woman says she's been raped, people will deny, discredit and ultimately bend reality to make the victim feel guilty.
Sometimes, women lie about being raped, making it so much harder for real victims.
Some women lie for money.
@@origamipein18 Very rarely, and not a reason to not believe women.
@@1GreatPlan do you listen to yourself? Women reporting SA rarely get anything in return other than shame from morons like you, and maybe a small settlement.
The idea that all these women looking for a payday by throwing out all these false allegations, isn't reality.
@@agoo7581 I'm only saying that if they accuse someone, they better have some damn solid proof.
2:37 there was an entire book written in response to Bill Cosby’s controversial pound cake speech, that was way more controversial than him calling out other comedians for swearing.
Do you sleep? Your well being is more important than your productivity, my boy.
It’s disgusting how so many people protected these predators. I was groomed at 15 by a 30 year old man and I’m 50 now. I’m still in counseling. My heart breaks for every child, woman and man who has been sexually abused 😪
I’ve been subbed since the beginning and your coverage of these cases has consistently been some of the best and most in depth that I’ve seen while maintaining the respect necessary to talk about them.
“Do I look like a donut!?? Then why you out here glazin!???” LOL what
Hood poems
@@OffendingTheOffendableand it all amounts to gibberish
'glazin!' I thought he meant, 'sweet talking' or sugar-coating something
AND, a lot of times in the ⚫️community, they blame the victims and shame them. Calling them “fast” and that “they knew what they were doing” I remember they blamed Aaliyah for everything that happened to her and they still do till this day.
And that’s exactly why his victims didn’t come forward sooner !! If people blamed Aaliyah and she was famous why wouldn’t they also blame these young girls who were obviously struggling in their home lives ?!?? That’s why he got away with it for over 30 years!!!
Not sure if you watched Surviving R.Kelly but there are these 2 blonde hair blue eyed white women(they’re sisters) and they worked with him for years and they said “He never tried anything with us” I started screaming at the tv saying “Because y’all aren’t his type of victims,he targets young black girls because unfortunately people are more likely to believe a white girl than a black or brown girl”! Imagine if he chose white teenage girls and did these things,he would’ve been put under the jail 30 years ago ! Disgusting !
@@Veronica_1683 As it well known, Aaliyah was tragically killed in a Plane Crash in the Bahamas on Saturday August 25,2001 at the age of 22. At the time, her Ordeal with R.Kelly had been 7-8 years prior and her Public career had only been 7 years old. She had ALREADY disassociated herself from him in 1996 when she released the Sophomore LP "One in a Million". She simply didn't live long enough to come to terms with how he groomed her.
@@Tornado1994 Dame Dash was asked recently what Aaliyah told him about her “relationship” with R.Kelly and she said “He’s a bad man and I don’t want to talk about him or hear his name ever again”! So Dame Dash never brought it up again ! Also when Jay Z decided to go on tour with R.Kelly in 2004 (I believe) Dame said to Jay Z “You know he ra*ed my girlfriend why would you work with him”?!? And that’s why Dame Dash and Jay Z “parted ways”! Also who else was best friends with R.Kelly ?!?? DIDDY !!!
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Black girls are always shamed for harm that happens to them and people always age them up /see them as older it’s so sad
Internet Archive needs more recognition. Literally can read yourself into those famous rabbit holes some find themselves scrolling through absolute bullshit content. ❤ learned one
I actually have color synesthesia. I didn't even know I was different until about 10 years ago. I thought everyone had a weird color projection for days, numbers, and especially music. Each different note and different instruments have their own unique color, so memorizing things, especially music for me, is super easy. I remember asking my mom what color a specific day was for her, and she was like, ??huh??? So, then, I thought I was the only one who had a weird brain, lol. But, yeah, certain music is more intense than a psych trip, for me. It's bizarre.
Thank you for best week of new content, Dreading Bros ❤❤❤
This is so fascinating... I would love to see colour in music.
@@cdes1776 I've been obsessed with finding others who have the same thing ever since I learned about it, lol. The really interesting people are the sound or taste people. So, for me, the word Monday is true red with deep burgundy on the edges, and Tuesday is kelly green. But for a sound person, they'll hear maybe a kazoo whistle when they think of Monday, and a low piano note for Tuesday. For a taste person, Monday could be chocolate, and Tuesday could be mangos. I believe the most common explanation is that it's caused by a miswiring of the brain. I also have diagnosed ADHD, another type of brain miswiring, so I guess it makes sense in a way, lol. If I remember correctly, I believe I have "grapheme-color synesthesia," if you want to research further ❤😊
@@emo_penguin420that is very interesting, thanks for explaining. My friend associates different numbers with colours but that is all, it’s not with letters etc. When he told me I was so fascinated and asked a million questions about it.
SAME! it makes memorization so much easier
Isn’t it fun finding others like you? I am like you and the others you describe. It’s a blessing. I’m convinced that it’s not a “mis-wiring”, but a phase in human evolution.
I'm really sorry for his terrible childhood, family did real damage
Still you can’t victimize someone else.
@@eveliinaniilivuo7329he isn’t saying that it’s okay. what happened was tragic regardless.
Knowledge is power. Explaining that child abuse results in potentially becoming a perpetrator is not excusing the perpetrator but rather educating someone about the outcome of childhood abuse. NO ONE IS EXCUSING THE ABUSER.
@@pseudolove83nature vs nurture*
the damage he sustained gives 0 justifications for the horrors he subjected to so many people
Thanks for the blessing boss man!! 💯 💯 And if I may, I'd like to request a Gannon Stauch case analysis video, please 🙏
Very hard to watch the predator be interviewed and being very honest about how he sought out certain children. Important information, but especially if u ever dealt with it in your youth…. Really puts certain things into perspective, feel sick to my stomach.
Why is the guy at 14:40 still alive and free???
Ya lol
Thank you for this, he may be my most hated celebrity predator.
Good lord, Dreading, this is a godly amount of uploads you're giving us 😯
"In his book, his ghostwriter would say" 💀
I never really knew how uneducated R. Kelly really is. He has trouble forming any type of a structured sentence.
He's a complete illiterate fool
Its not just him.
I didn’t know either and somehow so many people think he is a music “genius “ .
40:55 Found a mistake here. The article absolutely does call Kelly and Aaliyah's marriage illegal. Says the details of their illegal marriage was sketchy, not that the marriage itself was simply sketchy.
Rest of the video was great though. Keep up the good work.
I worked in Chicago during the height of R.Kelly's popularity.
At my job site, there were numerous fans of his that I worked with and around.
When that tape of him surfaced in 2001. Their initial reaction were-
50% thought it was fake.
40% thought it was real. The girl in the video seemed too young but they assumed she just turned 18.
Basically, barely legal.
10% didn't really care and would continue listening to his music.
I will say this.
If there was an Olympic event for mental gymnastics... R.Kelly's fandom would have taken the gold medal hands down.
I’ve seen some comment sections they range from “he didn’t do it eh was framed” to “I didn’t see it so it’s sketchy” to “he did terrible things and deserves to be in jail but I still like his music”
Haven't had a week this good for a while, wonder why...
Love you guys, keep up the great work!
Dreading just wanna say, love your channel and keep up the good work! Some of the most interesting and thorough true crime on youtube.
The nicest booth at McDonald’s 😂 why did that make me laugh 🤦🏻♀️
Dreading with the R.Kelly VIDEO??? LETS GOOOOOOOOOO
Feels like Christmas with how much you have been blessing us with all the videos!! 🙌🏽❤️
halloween IS my christmas lol so im feeling quite spoiled
Kudos for the philosophical analysis in the introduction!
This episode is so important for younger people especially. Power itself does not corrupt, it reveals. The corrupt almost always have delusional believers on their side. Predators look fo vulnerable people to exploit.
Dreading has been dropping bangers lately. Love your videos
I don’t understand how it’s possible for developing children who were always shy, introverted, kept to themselves, insecure, that once finally part of a group or having acquired friends, suddenly become controlling, aggressive and domineering…. Those traits usually come from those who’ve been manifesting and practicing them for a while before.
I was never totally far on the side of timidity growing up, but I certainly had a potent level of insecurity and self doubt. Growing up with 6 brothers, being the youngest at the time, and a girl, made me experience an upbringing environment that left me often excluded, rejected, and eventually believing that was to be my lot in life: so much so that when I did end up being accepted into various social circles during my teens, even though my self confidence and boisterousness did grow, I still remained in a mindset of surprise, courtesy, and contented gratitude.
I still to this day am thankful when I’m included, or socially invited. In any degree or level.
I didn’t used to have it, so now that I do, I’m finally happy and grateful….,it makes no sense to me when people do the opposite……. Had they just been shitty people the whole time? Hidden under their reticent guise?
I think sometimes people with control, power, abuser tendencies are aware of then from a young age but know they are bad and hide it as best as they can. It's harder to hide it as you get older and more opportunity to utilise it. Another one is I think weak and shy people when young can sometimes reach a point where they're like f this I deserve the power. And some get a little taste and it changes who they are I don't think every one who ends up doing these sort of things start that way, but some definitely do.
I love your comment about power doesn't corrupt so much as reveal ❤
Imagine, if Aaliyah had survived the crash, went on with her career, and she heard he had been arrested and was called to testify against Robert, Ooooooh!
Baby!
Baby!
Baby!
She would’ve buried his ass☕️
R.I.P Queen 👑
Yup! I don’t mean to be *that* kind of person, but kinda makes you wonder about how and why she died.
"That's because R Kelly can't even read" lol 😅😅😅😅
That Lulu story sounds so fake.
Those "matching" Mickey Mouse outfits just added to the creep factor.